Hello everyone. And welcome to Superhero Slate. This show we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV, movies and superheroes. So let's talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name is Mike. And this week we're putting on our dancing shoes for venom three. The Last dance trailer that debuted this week are. These shoes that we lace up or they slip ons? They are, goo. They're venom shoes. So the goo shoes. So yeah.
So that way you don't you don't you don't you don't slip because they got traction. You know, you don't want to fall down and, cloudy with a chance of meatball, spray on shoes. Exactly that. You're very safe with these. So you're going to get it to get those on, pretty early. Oh, we got some rumors about World War Hulk being in the cards at Marvel. Mike. And we might. We've talked about this before, but we've got some pretty, pretty good stuff, lined up for this rumor here. at the X-Men.
A reboot might get a horror director, and I'm going to just go ahead, drop it with. They met with Jordan Peele, but that could also be an indicator, something bigger and more. Yeah. Chris and I are feeling, I would say, very efficient today. I made it early to our recording session. I feel like I'm almost always five minutes late.
This is that happens, Chris, where, 15 minutes before we say we're going to hop on mic and start recording, that 15 minutes goes like five times faster than any other 15 minutes in my life. And I know there's like, there's no there's no punishment. There's no, you know, there's no negative like indication. Doc, in your pay every time, every minute you're like. There's no pay to be doc. I swear, those 15 minutes just, like, evaporate. I'm always like, behind, but, like, I'm early.
I feel like we got to, we got to recording here quickly. So let's see what this does to the show. I'm not entirely sure. Yeah. And it's also earlier in the day than usual. I mean, just just to be honest, I will, I will say if anyone was watching live, I accidentally cut off our intro a little bit, so I'll have to edit that in for the audio version. But, but yeah, we're earlier today for you, at least three hours behind. But this is a good time to go and tell people we will not be here next week.
We were we were taking our summer vacation, next week. So we will not have an episode next week, but we have 400 plus 477 news episodes and one 100 review episodes people can go listen to in the meantime. So yeah, I listen. To some old news that are really, really gonna get you going. I don't know, sometimes it's kind of fun to check in to see how silly we were. How wrong we were. Exactly.
Oh, man, I don't think I could stand listening to us talk, early 2020, like just before the pandemic change the entertainment in Hollywood. oh. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Oh, delightful. We were coming off of, Avengers Endgame. Yeah, that I, I dare to even go back because we started around when, you know, the first Ant-Man and Age of Ultron came out. I would hate to see what what news where are we getting then?
Right. Like, how how much is that changed? But, but yeah, anyway, we got a long ways to say. Yeah, we'll we'll be off next week. So, if you guys have, any summer plans or whatever, enjoy them until you take a, take the extra hour. We'll we'll give you back your say. See you in the corporate world. Make, but make sure you come back in two weeks, because Chris will be able to give you a recap of his trip to come out and visit me. Yes.
So it's to Disneyland, and he's going to be able to see Avengers Campus for the first time. I'm very excited about this, and it's really ironic because we only record when we're not together. and we we we, we even though we'll be together the most, like, I guess the ideal podcast situation, we're not going to record because we're going to be everywhere else.
So honestly, I don't even know how we would set up a podcast with somebody in the room with me because it's like, oh, do I put the microphone like in the middle of the oh yeah, we both have microphones. Yeah, you'll hear me. I, we, I think, I think we, we get it both, we both get a my friend just put a cardboard box like shield in between us and we just can't look at each other the whole time. Yeah. We don't. Even have. That. we don't even have the video chat on when we do these.
It's just as it's intended. you're listening to us disembodied from a face. And I talk to Chris, disembodied with our faces. So this is literally the idea was, And I think you would agree with, like, we're just going to record our phone call with each other and see how that goes. And that's what this podcast has become. Essentially, if you heard us talking on the phone, in the middle of the day about. This, just, this is the total tangent.
We're already off the rails, but it just reminded me of, like, two pet peeves that I hate with podcasts. The first one is a podcast that will almost entirely have their guest or their co-host on just a really crappy Skype recording like that drives me crazy. Like we have technology now is much better than it was just even five years ago. With audio recording.
Now just anybody walks into like any electronic store, by any device, like any electronic device, probably like your air fryer has a better, microphone, an audio recording than like a ten year old computer. And then just have them locally record their audio on their side. It drives me crazy. I get it sometimes.
Like if you're listening to, like, a, like a non fiction, like journalistic type of thing and like the reporter is like literally dialing in and it's for a segment or something that's totally okay. It actually adds a little bit of like color, you know, to the audio of like, oh, this person's like reporting in live from the field or whatever, but that drives me crazy. So I'm glad that we don't do that.
We never I think we've had to resorted to it like maybe once or twice when something technically has gone. Yeah, we we we have we have several situations in place for backups now thankfully. So we don't have that issue. But but early on I think maybe once or twice we had to resort to real roughness. for number two. And this one is a somewhat new pet peeve.
I don't come across too often, but if you're a podcast that's lucky enough that have been out there for a while, sometimes they want to flashback, you know, to memories, in the, in their, podcast archives and react to them talk about them. But it's an audio medium. So if you just take that audio and start playing it and then start talking over it, I have no idea what's from the past. I have no idea what stream now, and it just sounds like everyone's talking over each other.
So if there happens to be podcast producers listening to this podcast, just use some sort of filter like, you know, and like you're watching a TV show and they do like a flashback or a dream sequence and they just slap a sepia tone on there or something like that, like just put like a distortion on top of, like your flashback audio. Like it could sound like a little old timey, maybe make it sound a little flat or muted or do something to it so I know what I'm listening to.
I think you I think you have to do it kind of like where like kind of what they do on, like, a movie, interviews and stuff like it really. They, they show old clips and they react to it, but like, you like, okay, we're going to play the old clip. Boom. And they can talk over it, but they separate the audio where the reaction is played right after the clip instead. right that way. Like you should react to it rather than talk at the like you at the same time, right.
Because that that maybe works on video mediums but not audio. And I just, I don't even think I think adding an extra layer of static to that, like you mentioned, would just make you driving even more crazy. Hearing three different things come at you at the same time. So, I. Could never do that to you loyal listeners. Yes. yeah, we we try it, we try your hardest.
We try to put out at least the best quality of of things we can hear, despite, you know, just literally just sitting down and winging it on a Sunday what it feels like sometimes. but, Yeah, let's, let's let's get into what you've been doing. You've you've been, working out what? You've been working out. You catch up on movies, that you've you're we essentially have revisited a lot of movies here. You've got one new one, that just came out this week, but you revisited a bunch of movies here, so,
and so nice. So let's jump into what you did. Yeah. You've been talking about these. Opened the door back into phase four of Marvel, wrapped up Shang-Chi and rewatched Multiverse of Madness and, these both of these movies were either just as good or better than I remember them being. So, it I had only ever watched these in theaters. I never rewatch them. So, the only lingering memory I had of Shang-Chi, surprisingly, was just. I like seeing Lulu, as, Shang-Chi.
And that was like, the only memory I had from the movie. I was like, well, do I have any other opinions on this film? So I'm glad I went back and rewatched it. And I was surprised that, the fight choreography is great. I love it, the stunts, the, the fight scene on the bus at the beginning, the, the kind of, scaffolding outside of his sister's fight club on that building that was really, really cool.
But I do remember I had this opinion when I watched it the first time, and when we did, the spoiler cast of the third act is surprisingly the least interesting part of the movie, and that's pretty surprising if you were to tell somebody it has like two dueling dragons in a mystical world. it's just not. It just wasn't as excited. I felt like I didn't have any sort of, I don't know, just care for these people in this, but, like, I'm just not. I was, like, in their village.
I don't really get to see it for life, you know, it. Clashes with the, I guess, the grounded realness of the fight scenes in the first half, as you mentioned. Right. Like it feels very much like these these are real fights are happening, the visceral. They're choreographed in a real life way. Right. and then you get into a mystical kind of flips a little bit.
Essentially, the world would literally flip upside down, if you will, to be more mystical and not have that groundedness that was in the beginning. So it just seems so unreal and unrealistic, which I know seems silly within, this kind of like fantasy realm, that it was like, oh, am I watching like a dream, you know? but overall, I do remember one other thing that I like. The first time I watched it and it was just the physicality of like of the ten rings themselves, like the weapon.
It's just very interesting. It's what makes Spider-Man really, really cool. Like, he's a superhero with this unique power set, and he gets to do visually compelling things on screen. And I feel like the rings lend to that as well. So, I'm happy that a lot of that still held up. So, all that being said, looking forward to the next time we get to see Shang on screen. I think it's going to be great. And then the Multiverse of Madness. it was weird.
We watched the movie in theaters, we hopped on mic and we reviewed it and I remember loving it. And then after the movie came out, I started hearing a lot of these, like, sour reactions to the film of, like, things that they didn't like about it. And then I feel like it started to poison me a little bit, and I was like, oh, was the movie as good as I thought it was? You know, am I just going in with some sort of, rose tinted spectacle?
And then I went back and rewatched it and was like, no, this movie's great. I mean, Sam Raimi gives, a visually, striking difference to this movie that a lot of other Marvel films don't have. They just don't have that style. I love seeing Zombie Doctor Strange again. That guy is like, so cool. all of the characters I feel like are properly motivate and the threats seem real to me. And the the story is so much more tragic than I remember it being for, for for the Scarlet Witch.
Like, she really goes through it in this movie. And it was helpful for me to remember, like, oh, she's going so crazy because she starts to delve so deep into the Darkhold. And that's kind of like the biggest contrast, right? You leave on a hopeful now after the end of WandaVision, and then we see her again and Doctor Strange and she's like, gone crazy. So I don't know if an additional scene or something could have helped or maybe just as well. So but you never really get to see her.
The madness, you know. The asterisks there is that they were supposed to release in tandem, and they I think they said they reshot the ending or redid the ending, of WandaVision because they didn't know when Doctor Strange was going to come out during because of the delays they had on it with the pandemic. So I think there was something there.
But, you know, with that time frame in between, they're going from like he was supposed to be like a month to what was it like a year, year and a half maybe. it probably needed that a little bit, that little lift to get there. But the only thing I think I don't like about this movie is, this is just, display of some of the most obvious wigs I've ever seen in a movie before. I don't I guess I just didn't notice them as much the first time around, but Doctor Strange is waking it up.
Rachel McAdams is waking it up. the Scarlet Witch is waking it up. Everybody's got wigs at some point in time in this movie, and they are painfully obvious, which I it was kind of funny more often than not. but it was distracting to say the least. And then, I don't know anatomically what a third eyeball is supposed to look like on somebody's forehead. But we do get to see that a couple of times in this movie.
And I'm like, I don't know if I would do anything differently, but this just doesn't seem right to me. I don't know what it is. I don't know if you need to add a third eyebrow up there or if something needs to be added or taken away, but the third eyeball is distracting to me and it just looks. It just doesn't look. It's flat. Well, it looks flat, right? It should be like recessed, right?
Like it looks like they, you know, they essentially cloned his eyes together and put it up there in like, compositing. But it looks to me it looks flat, on every strange. Right? Like it should be. You know, an eyeball has, like, a depth to it. And like, the nose bridge makes it like the shadow, but there isn't anything on your forehead to give it a shadow. And it just looks like. Oh, it should be there.
I always think, you know, I don't think there's any way to make a third eye look good, because I always think back to Dragonball with Tien having his third eye. I'm like, but that doesn't look good either on him and he's a cartoon character, so I don't think there's any way to make that look, good. At the end of the day, either. But to sneak in one final thing before we move on to what you did, Chris, this week, we checked out Hitman on Netflix this weekend.
My wife and I, I had to tell her I was like, you don't know who Glen Powell is? because we haven't watched the sequel to Top Gun. but he's like, he's all of a sudden, Hollywood's IT guy. So we're going to have to watch hitman because he's probably going to be in like a marvel movie or a DC movie at some point in time. I mean, technically he was like an extra, like a featured extra in, The Dark Knight Rises.
I just saw that on TikTok over the weekend, but all of a sudden he's like super famous now. So I was like, we got to familiarize ourselves with this guy, and he's in a movie on hitman, and. what's what he was in that one movie with, Oh, shit. Sydney Sweeney. Anyone? Sydney Sweeney. Yeah. Can anyone be you as well? Yeah. He he's in twisters in a in a month, so. Yeah. That's coming out. Yeah. So he's he's about to be the guy. Right. So you got to catch him where he's at before he takes off.
But hitman one is really, really good. it it's a movie that you think you know where it's going to go. you feel like they set up the premise. You can kind of see the writing on the wall, but then they do a really good job of doing the unexpected. I wouldn't say there's necessarily twists in this movie. I'm not trying to set you up going like, oh, wow, there's going to be all of these like layers in there, but they just go in a different direction. And it was just refreshing.
it's a it's billed as a comedy. There's a little bit of, romance in there. Not a whole lot. There's not enough here to call it a romantic comedy. I don't think at least, but it was it was great. We really, really liked it. I think it'll be. I think it'll be a hit. I think people really liked this one.
Yeah. And then, Mike and I, beforehand, he, you know, he was, you said it was written and well co-written by Glen Powell, but also, written and directed by Richard Linklater, who has done movies such as, school of Rock and What Was the other and Sad Days and confused. And then I told them about the before trilogy. If anyone hasn't caught that, I would recommend looking up the before trilogy as well.
It's started in 95 with before I think sunrise, and it's got Ethan Hawke, and I forget the actress's name, but, they did one in the 90s, one in the 2001, in the, I think 2013. And they're the same characters, the same actors, like evolving actually, like in real time kind of thing. so but it's great because I know and this isn't what I saw on the poster. My hitman is Glen Powell plays multiple characters. Correct. That's that's what I get from the poster.
So, is this like a more of a sci fi movie? You would say, an action movie? It's a this is actually very realistic. I don't okay, 100% how much this sticks to it, but apparently it's loosely based on a true story. And the the movie kind of postulates to the audience that hitmen are totally a Hollywood invention. And the idea that you could just go out there in the real world and hire somebody to, kill somebody for you is actually totally fictitious.
But since they have been so prominent in our culture, just we just assume that they're real. So it's just kind of that I don't want to. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Too much away. But I thought that was kind of interesting because like, well, that's true. I mean, I don't think I like 99% of the things I've ever heard about hitman have been from the entertainment industry. I don't even know if I've ever read like a news article about, hitman per se, you know?
Well, assassinations, but it's always been, like, governmental or terrorist. Well, there's those there's always those news articles, like, you know, the husband killed someone, like, quote unquote, a hitman to off his wife or like vice versa. But it's never like it's never like the hitman of the movies, right? It's like some guy three towns over who, you know, will do anything for money kind of thing. So, but I didn't know if it was sci fi.
It looks like fi from the poster, and I couldn't tell, so I figured I'd just gauge that from, you. Know, it's good. I'd recommend it. Okay, that's great, because, well, the other, Netflix option is Atlas, the the civilian movie. and, so I was like, I was like, no, maybe watch that one since he got cut off Shanghai. Oh, it topped the charts. But I mean, it wasn't good. He could be. He could be making strategic moves. Because you brought up Sydney Sweeney just earlier with, that movie.
Anyone but you? I think if I remember right, the reason that movie got made along with her Barbarella movie that's coming out soon ish, the reasons that those even got made was she agreed to be in. Madame Web. For Sony. And that's the story out there in Hollywood right now, that that's the bargain that she made, that she would be in this obviously bad movie, in order to get these other projects greenlit. And I just think that's like, super smart.
And and obviously, one of the things that you many people don't know about Sydney Sweeney, she's a producer. She has a production company that she actually own. So those are her movies that she made, like through her production company, through the distribution agreement, through Sony. So, yes, she's being very smart about this stuff. And she's like, literally, I think in interviews she's like, I don't care how bad it is. I got what I wanted out of it right at the end of the day.
And and that is that was awesome. for that, well, I'm going to flip the script here. Mike. Mike went back, you know, five years. I went back 30 years. Mike and I have been revisiting, as I mentioned last week, stuff on our tube TV. And, I put it on random, and the first movie that popped up on random this week was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles The Original Movie. Mike and I, we always talk about the turtles here.
You you've gotta love for the turtles. and, this movie holds a lot of, I guess I wouldn't say love and people. Sorry. I mean, people might love it, but it's got a lot of memories because of those actual, like, physical bodysuits they wore in these movies. Right. And, revisiting this, it has got some of the worst dialog is a very late 80s dialog, but it is. So I guess of the comic books, like, I'm like, I can see every one of these scenes being drawn in a turtles comic book throughout it.
I do think it's fun. It was a great time to visit. We didn't have the ninja wrap in this one, but we got, you know, Shredder and, you know, splinter obviously is a big rat, and, they're, they have, like, the. No, it's not a seance, but they commune with them through the ninja spirits. But one of the things I think that is just, you know, very distracting about this movie sometimes even realize that you can see the people under the suit, like, in their mouth.
Like they were just kind of painted and like, oh, I didn't notice this as a child. Is that like, you mentioned wigs early? I'm like, is that something you watch just because you're, like enthralled with the story and seeing turtles come to life? Or is it because, you know, now I'm like, oh yeah, it's on a better screen. I'm like, oh, I'm just noticing these things now. Is that like, I don't know. So did you ever remember noticing the people in the turtle mouth? Like when.
I was a child, I everything that I saw in the movies was, wonderful. Was a documentary. Of it. It was. Oh, I know it was. One thing I just learned recently is the, at least the original, one that you're talking about here. I don't know about the sequels, but the original one for the longest time was one of the most successful independent films. I didn't I didn't realize, I don't know exactly what qualifies it as an independent film necessarily, but that's what it was.
I guess somebody who went out there raised money on their own film and shot this, and then went out to Hollywood and said, hey, who wants to distribute this movie? Well, I thought that was pretty wild because usually IP based movies, that's not how it goes now. Yeah, I do think, you know, the fact that they were able to bring the turtles into these suits and like, I didn't for once think like, oh man, this this isn't at all. It's not like the Michael Bay ones or it's like CGI.
There's something about this having the tactile suits there that was really cool. and thankfully I mean, they learned their lesson from, Howard the Duck, right? Whatever. That was just a big robot suit. And these actually have the people in them with obviously some animatronics. But I had a good time revisiting that. It's just it's doesn't it's not as much fun to to watch, but I mean, it's still it's still holds up, you know, just to have that nostalgia there in the movie.
I never grew up with Mike and a lot of people have, my wife was quoting this as it was going on, and I, I don't know much about it is actually The Princess Bride, and I don't know how much exposure you had to this as a child either. Just kind of gauging. I had absolutely no exposure. Okay. Yeah. As a child. And I watched it for the first time, maybe like a year and a half ago.
Yeah. Like I've seen clips and I think I might have watched at one point, but like, you know, I'm more familiar with like the scenes from the movie rather than the actual, like, whole part of the movie. But, one of the things that made me think, you know, this movie, you know, made me think about is, Carrie, I was the main actor, right, in The Princess Bride. He is literally a man who can play a straight faced man or, like, a a comedian in any role he wants to do.
Mike and I started going through the roles because I was like, oh, I'm going to quote you, Robin Hood Men in Tights, because I know him from that role, right? Where he says, was we playing another like, you know, early 90s swashbuckler, if you will, the Robin Hood of that? And then I'm like, well, he was also like one of the dudes in the first saw movie. Like the guy who had to, like, cut his foot off or whatever. I'm like, oh, he can do horror films. he's also, you know, kind of thing.
But he was the was the King, in the Rebel Moon movies. I'm like, okay, that's good. Good for you. Still getting work? Yeah. but on the flipside, and then there was Mission Impossible. He's like, I think the president or like, you know, the head of the FBI or somebody like that, like, and I'm like, he can literally go all across the spectrum in any of his roles he wants to be in. And I'm like, that guy's a great actor.
I mean, we went, I wouldn't will we get him in a superhero movie that that's the question, what are we going to get him in? unless he's already been in one. And then I feel stupid, but I don't think he's been in any offhand. and then the obviously on the other side, the actual princess in that movie, is Robin Wright, who went on to play, in Wonder Woman's aunt in the Wonder Woman films, with Gal Gadot also, very, very good. actually name my after her character.
So, and then the other movie I watched, Mike is Good Burger, the original Good Burger, the Nickelodeon film. And, boy do do movies of the the late 90s, early 2000 have a flavor, if you will. And this movie, it made me think of you, if I'm going to be completely honest, because the whole crux of this movie is, there is a restaurant called The Good Burger that's barely hanging on, but they have a really dedicated worker played by, Kel Mitchell, and he's just an absolute doofus.
And he lives to be at the Good Burger thing. And then there's a, it's I forget it's not called, like, the Omega burger was like another burger joint opening across the street, and they're like. Is it Mondo. Burger? Mondo burger. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, we've got bigger burgers and stuff like that. And then they're all like, we're never going to get business. We're going to go get clothes. And then Kelly's character, he makes a special sauce. Mike literally the special sauce he makes.
And that's what makes people want to come back to Good Burger and saves the day at the end, because he's able to have his special sauce on these burgers that make him taste. So you. Saying this reminds this reminds me, are you reminded of me because of there's a special sauce and. There's a special. You love special sauces. Yeah. But that but like, at the same time I'm like, if there was ever like, oh, we need, like, some sort of special sauce to make this movie popular.
oh. It, it literally it is literally a special sauce. It's not even like a figuratively. It's literally I'm like, this is like so on the nose of special sauce, it's it's, it's why are. You now you got to go watch the sequel. You got to watch the sequel. I mean, no, if it's worth. I'm not excited. I'm not. I have no interest in watching the sequel. I had no interest in watching the first one. The shuffle was against me. for for Good Burger. it was this r for a few for.
Was it for a few fistful dollars more or whatever. It's called a Clint Eastwood movie. I'm like, I'm good. I'm not watching the Clint Eastwood movie today. we don't need a Western in the house, for this, but, I'm. I'm excited to see what the shuffle will take me through on the next ones, I think, the last week, I tell you, watch The Mummy. I don't know if we had watched The Mummy by last week. Yeah. So, my wife was going down that road, and so it was, It's fun to see.
You know her, I guess exposure to these older movies that, the, Well, she's watching. I haven't watched, but we're here for news. Let's jump into the news. Mike. we've been talking about Captain America, brave new world. the newest report, is from, someone you don't actually have a photo, but someone on set that Benedict Wong, who plays Wong, was on set in Atlanta filming. And, the reason I was like, oh, why would he be in Captain America Brave New World?
he has that connection to the abomination. right. And I'm like, this movie is essentially a spiritual sequel to the Hulk, The Incredible Hulk movie. so, he could be doing something with the abomination. And in this. This I just watched, I just watched Wong and two movies. yeah. Shang. She is Wong in every phase four movie. No, I just happened to be that he's in. You have to pick the two he's in, but, he's been in some. Was he in the TV show? I think he was in. He he was in good. Like, Yeah.
Was not the Marvel's. Was he in one other? I feel like he was in another Disney Plus show that maybe I'm, imagining that. Yeah. No, something he's in something else because. Or maybe that's like the end credits scene of the end of She-Hulk where he, like, hangs out on a couch with what's her face. Yeah. that, he's in no way home. No way home. The other one we're thinking of. Okay, so that's that's kind of. I just pull up the his his wiki page here. yeah.
It went from Spider-Man No Way Home to Doctor Strange to She-Hulk. So, yeah, nothing else. Yeah. He's the Nick Fury of, phase four, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's pretty mystical. It seems like most of the stuff that he is connected to, seems to be pretty superpowered. But yeah, you're right. I just watched them in Shang-Chi. With the abomination. Yeah. So, it could be. Could be that, obviously he post endgame.
We've not really had a big like, hey, everybody knows each other because we all fought in the big battle kind of thing. Yeah. So, could just be, you know, he maybe he knows Sam Wilson better. at that point, I don't know, but, he's been on set, and, obviously, I think he's going to be, Nick Wong, a character to kind of start pulling this stuff together as we get towards all the other things. but the disclaimer that, Marvel seems to shoot almost everything in Atlanta.
So if anyone's down there for any reason, you know, they might just show up on set just to say, hey, no, probably not it, man. That doesn't need to be there. If he doesn't, he will. They also film the other Marvel stuff in, the UK, which is where he's from. So, big trip for that. I assume we're going to see a photo. Probably after we get done recording of him in this actual outfit. and, and go down that road. But they do not have one at that time.
Now, the people on set, though, were able to get some of those, some videos of Mr. Zhang, Carlo Esposito filming on set. Looks like he's, has has a shoot out on a on a highway scene here and it's a 2.5 minute clip. You have to watch it. But like, you know, he's obviously they're filming. it's a scene out, and then he kicks a door close. I watched it earlier this week.
you know, the other thing I was like, is he, you know, in the comic books, there was a character called Jake Fury, which is Nick Fury's brother. Now, the more I thought about, the more I looked. I'm like, this guy could literally be Nick Fury's brother in this, like, same age range, same like kind of what he was wearing last week. What we saw seems to be on par with the Fury brother kind of vibe.
Yeah, it makes me wonder, since we got a peek into Fury's personal life and Secret Invasion, even though it seems like that show was going to be swept under the rug. Possibly. Yeah. I mean, we got to see the inside of his house was. I wonder if there were any family pictures that might have hinted that he had, he had more, an alien life? I don't think so. I mean, I think I don't think that that movie or that TV series thought anything more that, hey, can we get to the end credits? today?
So, I don't think there's any set ups in that, but, you know, knowing, you know, they have been pulling there's some a comic book series called Secret Warriors, which is one of my all time favorite comic book series. was a very, like, a 30 issue thing, but Jake, Jake Fury was, like an undercover villain for a while, in that. So, like, you know, I know a little bit from that, but I don't know, we he could literally be anybody.
And we're probably going to be underwhelmed when it comes out to be someone who doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Right? Big name for for something. But if it is Jake Fury and he's going to be in TV series, as he said afterwards, that would make sense to have another fury like, I guess on Earth doing the, the dirty work that Nick Fury is not doing because he's out in space at the end of the day. Yeah, it is kind of nice, though, just to see the, the news start to spin up again. Right?
I feel like it's been a while since you've had these types of conversations on the podcast. Oh, there's set photos to talk about. There's a mysterious, new actor out there filming scenes, for so many years, a lot of this stuff was paused. it's. Yeah. Nice to have it back. Yeah. It's pause from the pandemic than the actor strike. Than the writers strike. it was a it was a running strike, right? Yeah. so, yeah, everything. Everything seems to me to be make.
I mean, this is, again, a, result of, the redo this, this entire movie. And the other thing is during this, on set, same Wilson, I guess Anthony Mackie is wearing his suit from The Falcon and the Winter soldier show. And so we know we've seen the blue in that. He's gonna probably get by the end of the movie, but it looks like it will be a journey to that blue and Mike, rather than just he starts off from the new one from the get go. Yeah, that's usually how these, usually how these, movies work.
Yeah, there's always a suit up scene. Right. Yeah. Well, the other thing is, you know, again, we've since we known this movie's been done and done for a long time. The reshoot, everything. I wonder, if they're trying to maybe that retcon or maybe connect it more to to some of that other stuff to say, hey, look, we have to acknowledge it.
along the way, bring it back to to the world. So, it's interesting to see it ends up black and white photo, but that white is very, very, contrasty against the rest. So it looks good. Moving into World War Hulk, we talked about this a little bit at the top of the show. is is that, the movie, a movie for a World War Hulk now is being set up for a future project.
And we've said this before, you know, so we're kind of kind of blue in the face here, but the idea is that Bruce Banner, has been afraid of the governments getting his blood, as we saw kind of in She-Hulk and creating their own super soldiers.
So we're going to see after Captain America, Brave New World, the, the leader, the potential Red Hulk we've seen from the toys and the governments fighting over the celestial body that has been rumored in that movie, the also vibranium that it was it France trying to get vibranium and Wakanda. the second Black Panther movie. So it looks like this is going to be a part where, like the other countries are starting to dive into this a little bit.
and, it could be the rumors that it's a breaking point for Bruce Banner in returns of the instead of a Professor Hulk, we're going to get that savage Hulk, which is like, he has to come out to be like to beat the other ones. I guess at the end of the day. I feel like there's some interesting pathos you could tell with a movie like this, right?
Because the whole arc of the MCU, or at least the way it started, was when we put on Iron Man one, where I was watching just our very own world, you know, our real grounded world start to change of the superhero start to come out of the woodwork, and we start to learn more and more and more. so, you know, if you're just a normal, like, bad guy in the world, right? You're watching the TV in the news, just like everybody else.
And now all of a sudden the Hulk went from like a random green guy that you saw in, like, one brief news he broke. Broke Harlem. Yeah, yeah. To all of a sudden, being like a celebrity that you can just go up to in a diner, you know, and take pictures. so there's some interesting things that you could do there where his popular pretty, you know, him just trying to be normal is actually very dangerous because he's now a target all the time.
so, yeah, I wonder if they could play around with that at all, because he has come a long way. Like he's made a whole arc of just being a guy that struggling with this demon inside of him to now they've reached this point of harmony. I mean, he was doing like, yoga on a cliff face and She-Hulk. Right? He's like kind of become. So now it's to do another movie. You're going to have to tear him back down, you know? Yeah. Creative way. And again with we've seen the advent of AI.
We have the leader, we have She-Hulk, we have his son scar. We have the Red Hulk, the abomination is out there. Like, they have set up a lot of Hulk players in the world. Right. But I think we've always had, you know, all this stuff. Literally almost everything we've ever seen, minus secret Invasion, which will probably be swept under the rug again, is set in America. So how are other countries dealing with literally every superhero in the world being in the US?
And like, how do they try to, I guess try to catch up, right would be my thing. And actually, the Hulk's blood created Captain America. You know that. That's how they they did it. or Captain America's blood created the Hulk the other way from the Incredible Hulk. So, like, you know, how do we how do other countries play catch up, make their own super soldiers?
And, I can see a World War Hulk being this other countries doing that and, not doing it the right way, I guess, to, to cause some, some problems. I I'd love to see it. I would love to see this movie. It doesn't need to be the comic book version. Right. They can take the title. We're never we've already gotten the world breaking Hulk look from Thor Ragnarok. He's not going to come back to Earth and try to take it over and take a binge on the Illuminati.
So it's World War Hulk is like all the countries are making Hulk slash super soldiers, and he's got to step up and do something. Sign me up. Let's let's see that version of it a long way. Moving on. I think we we talked about Hulk being a big part of Avengers five, but we've got some news in Avengers five that, director Shawn Levy, for upcoming Deadpool. Wolverine, has it in talks to direct film again. I think we didn't even know he was in talks the first time. Like it's what happened.
he apparently was offered the movie, but passed, a while ago. But because of the delays in, The Avengers five movies and everything kind of being reworked, it's given, maybe an opening again to work on this movie if you want. So he is in talks to possibly take over as the director for this? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to make this sound like an insult because Shawn Levy is a very successful creative, but he does kind of seem like the, the Safe Choice director, right?
You know, it seems like if you got, like, a summer kind of blockbuster action movie, especially maybe if there's some humor thrown there, like, put Shawn Levy on the case and he will execute it makes me think of, like, when, for, the solo movie they had to bring in, Ron Howard. I feel like I had very similar opinions of, like, oh, they just want somebody here that they know they can get the job done. You know, best case scenario, you know, you're going to get like an eight out of ten movie.
Worst case scenario, maybe like a seven and a half out of ten, right. You know, so I, I, I would like more bigger swings in the MCU. And maybe we're going to be talking about a slightly bigger swing in director. Well, in a couple segments, but like, I can't be mad about this, but I'm also I'm not like I don't excited about it. You know. I, I disagree. I think the writing has to knock it out of the park.
I don't think the director matters in this situation, but I would say the only director, I think, who could pull off Deadpool and Wolverine and like that movie does, should not exist in the MCU, right? It is. It is R-rated. It is raunchy. There's an angry Wolverine in brought back Hugh Jackman. It shouldn't work. It shouldn't exist. and he was able to do that, I think. I think if you have a good writing team, they will make the movie good and the director will bring out again the audiences.
Because I was thinking about this earlier this week, and I don't think it was this, but the idea that a movie lives and dies on his directing name rather than the entire crew who puts it together, is it's kind of a that's a wrong way to think about it, because it takes an editor, it takes a, you know, a director, it takes a cinematographer, it takes everyone to make a movie. So I think by saying, yeah, he's going to be the linchpin of this. I don't think so on something of this scale.
And there's this, I guess, scope. I, you know, I was looking at the movie, I couldn't tell you right now, I don't know if you've looked at something like other than the recent Ryan Reynolds stuff he's done. Could you tell me something else? He's directed Shawn Levy as director. I'm literally only thinking of Ryan Reynolds stuff because he did. He did free Guy. yeah. What was that Adam. Project. On the Adam Project?
Yeah, there's like one other that's, like, kind of bubbling right on the front of my head that I feel like Ryan Reynolds wasn't involved then, but I can't. So think of it. So there's the I don't see the other Ryan Reynolds movies on his thing right now. he did all three museum movies. That's what they were, because we just recently watched all of them in this house. Yeah, we rewatched all the night at the museum. He he did, you know, the, cheaper by the dozen reboot with, Steve Martin.
Real steel is this connection to Hugh Jackman. And then he took, like, after a night of the museum, secret of the tomb. He took off seven years before free Guy. So. And then he's got, I think he signed up for a Star Wars film, too. So I don't think he'll. If Star Wars. If he didn't take Star Wars, he'll do this. If not, he'll do Star Wars. But you know, they tend to not really make any Star Wars movies Star Wars right now. So I'm so glad you brought this up. This is absolutely.
Well, I can't believe I forgot about this, but the night at the museum movies were never really on my radar. I think I watched the first one when it came out, and that was about it. And then my wife has more nostalgia for them, so we kind of went back and watch them. I think it's the third night at the museum movie. The characters are like running through London or something, and they bust into, a theater and there's a play happening on stage, and, Hugh Jackman is on stage.
and he's literally is Hugh Jackman because he's trying to, like, de-escalate the situation with Ben Stiller. And he's just like, oh, I'm. You might know me, I'm Hugh Jackman. Oh, no, it's not Ben Stiller. It's like some sort of Egyptian that's come back to life because the Egyptian has no idea who this is, but it's actually pretty funny because he's like, he does the whole, like, Wolverine, like, claws out clenched. Oh, yeah.
To try to convince this guy who he is, he's like, no, sorry, I don't know who you are. But I was like, well, it's a pretty wild it's worth it just for that one moment. Absolutely. And I and I and I'm going to to apologize. I forgot to look down at the television section of his work. He has directed eight episodes of Stranger Things. wow. Including, like the award winning one, Dear Billy, which is the one with the, where what's her name is floating in it.
So I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Chris, if you just put all of his body of work in a blender and blend it up, you are sitting at a like a safe eight. Yeah, but bad and not. It's not an insult either. That's just weird. That's. I'm just stating. I'm just stating an opinion. And I feel like I, I don't have a spin on it. I think that's all I got. Like, we are probably going to have a good movie if he's directing it.
Right? Right. Well, and I think and I do, and I think my point with this is saying if he can do Stranger Things and, free Guy or Adam Project, he is not I think he's not, genre siloed, if you will. Right. He can do horror and drama. He can do comedy and and levity as well. So, I think as long as the script is good, I think he'd do it. The last thing I'm going to say about Shawn Levy is, I'm gonna I'm going to give him a, a love and a hate right here for you, Mike. the love.
He directed five episodes of an amorphous in the late night. And I love, I love animus. the hate is, I don't know if you ever watch that short lived Birds of Prey TV show from 2002. based on the DC comic book characters. yeah, he he did, he did, an episode of that. But, I mean, works work. For me just seems like a guy that's out there just trying to get his career started. But but, but but the the script is what ruined that show. Not necessarily the director. So, I I'm excited for this.
I think it's great. also, you know, we're going to reiterate this movie will be grounded story with multiversal aspects. No big deal. Now, this is the other rumor that came out for this week. Sources are saying that this project could have more than 60 MCU characters. And I say I think people are thinking Avengers five is one movie when they're saying the next Avengers movies will have over 60 characters. I don't think the next one will have 60 characters. Do you?
Yeah, the Qing Qing dynasty one. I mean, we were thinking that, that would probably be reserved for Secret Wars, you know? Yeah. I'm really curious what we're looking at here with Avengers five and Avengers six, and I'm curious if it's going to be structured a little bit more like Infinity War in Endgame. You know, a part one and a part two, but not necessarily, you know, nothing happening in between the two of them, just like the last one. I mean, it may it worked, right?
It worked with the last two set of movies. So, you know, do you try that again? if there's multiversal aspects, I'm just trying to think like, what does that mean? Just because aspect seems like such, a word like, oh, we've lightly seasoned this movie. Well, yeah, stuff. And like, the multiverse is such a compounding, gigantic thing happening. So it makes me wonder if maybe some sort of rift has opened and the antagonists has slipped over from another universe. Right.
And then, yeah, it's fighting that person. They start to learn of the more of the problems that are bubbling up. And if you went to your secret Wars. I know we're back to where they might have Kang again and they recast him. So I think the aspects will be like, we have a Kang that they're fighting, and then we're going to learn about the other ones first, secret wars, like, you know, like we're like you mentioned, we're going to see the seeds. We're going to set up a secret wars.
I mean, let's we'll just get into it. The next part of this is Secret Wars, and Secret Wars will be a probably be a multi-part film. And that's fine with me if they need to two movies to tell the story because there's so many characters. Mike, I'm fine with that. Right? Like that. That is cool to to tell a good story, but I think it's going to be very multiversal in sequence, like maybe the Indy five act three, like, okay, we've beaten the big bad. Oh wait, we've doomed the Earth.
The you know, it's going to crash. Whenever we'll talk about some of these things sequels will borrow from. But like, I think that's what they're talking about. Like Secret Wars one, two, whatever it's going to be is going to be the big multiversal culmination and finale all within two movies, if you will. Yeah. Like, talking about, you know, incursions here, you know. Yeah, exactly is going to be happening, you know, are we just going to, you know, is King going to be defeated in Avengers five?
And Secret Wars is going to be, you know, more battle world oriented. So you I mean, you just watch Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and ended with the threat of incursions, not with the threat of King. Right. So like there is the idea, like the worlds are collapsing because they're colliding. or, you know, the rumor. You know, we've heard from the rumors for Deadpool, like, you know, the, there's, like, totems in the universe, like Spider-Man being a totem.
And if, like, some character in the universe dies, the universe fades away, and they've all taken off from comic books. So they did a sequel. I was going to borrow from three books. Number one. the more recently Avengers Assemble, story by Jason Aaron, where reality was rewritten to get rid of the main universe. six and six Avengers in the comics.
But they're pursued through multiverse and meet variations on themselves, including like the 1 billion BC universe, Avengers, 1 billion BC Avengers, and stuff like that. they can also borrow from Avengers Forever, which character Rick Jones just normally Hulk character, assembles different Avengers, from different times to fend off an attack from a mortis who is a Kang variant. And lastly, as you mentioned, time Runs out, which is Jonathan Hickman's Avengers versus the Illuminati.
The Illuminati are destroying worlds so they don't incur or have incursions with their world, which causes a friction with the Avengers at the end. So there is this strategic advantage that they could have if a Secret Wars movie was split into two parts, right? So we're talking about Avengers five and then Avengers like six seven, right? And maybe those are only like one year apart, right? There's an advantage that you have.
There is if you introduce a lot of your multiversal variants, which we are already familiar with, the term variant. Now, in that sixth movie, right, you can market, test them, you put them out there in the world, you see what characters the audience responds to the most. Who do they like? Who do they want to keep around? You kill off all the ones that people didn't like, and you keep the ones around that you like, and you fold them into your new MCU that's rebooted.
You know, you can't do that if you if you introduce them all in one movie and then kill them all, all of the very end or you, you know, not killed. Leave a door. Non-existent or something. Yeah. So that is one. And we do know that Marvel, does do kind of like their own version of market testing does decide like kind of like their next projects and stuff like that. So yeah, that that's one unlikely advantage. yeah. Putting it into two films. Right.
And I think, I think, all these comic book series I've read and they're obviously very comic book trophy, you have to adapt them to the things again, the Avengers Endgame and Infinity War borrow from a series called infinity written by Jonathan Hickman, which is the precursor to Time Runs Out Here. So they could lean into that if they wanted to. I I'm excited either way, but I do love the idea of incursions.
And I'm glad you rewatched Doctor Strange to remind me that those do exist, and those should be literally, something that you can't predict and you can't control would be something crazy to think of the Avengers trying to stop, right? Like, how do you use our minds? How do we use our brawn? It's not working and it all ends in battle world. Somehow. So highly recommend those. But X-Men, let's get into the X-Men.
This is going to be a key factor when the MCU probably relaunches post Secret Wars, no matter when it is. But Jordan Peele has recently met with Marvel about this movie. This movie was brought up because specifically the X-Men, because they are looking for somebody high profile to kick this off, right? And, everyone's like, is he going to write direct? It's mostly our director because we already have a writer in the works.
Well, also, too, Jordan Peele doesn't strike me as the type of director that doesn't have creative input on the story. I mean, he this is this is like a weird kind of cross that he in his career, that he kind of has to make the decision. Right? Because to me at least personally, Jordan Peele, the name kind of sits up there with these, like Edgar Wright's these, you know, maybe, you know, to a lesser extent than like a Christopher Nolan.
You know, these are like name directors where no matter what they make, I'm going to go watch it because I don't even need to see a trailer. I know it'll be good on some level. You know, it might not be better than some previous work of theirs, but it'll be good. Like, I wasn't a the biggest, you know, fan of Last Night in Soho from. Right. But I still had a good time and I felt like it was worth my admission.
So there's a path where that is his career, where Jordan Peele could just keep making these, like, very intriguing creative movies. Right. but also, I wouldn't blame him if he went the, you know, the big cash cow. I can do one, one X-Men movie, right? Like I'll do one and see how it works for him. Yeah. Like, are you kidding me? Like, and this is the this is the kind of step that you need to do, right? You can't fumble the ball on rebooting the X-Men.
Like, this is a franchise that is going to go. We've already seen it go for more than a decade. They need it to do the same because, the all of these characters that they've already built in the MCU, they're starting to fray. And whether a little bit audience interest is starting to, you know, dwindle, not like a ton. It's not a catastrophe. But, you know, they need something new. And can you imagine an X-Men poster with with directed by Jordan Peele right under the logo?
that would be huge for Marvel. I'm on the other. I think it'll bring a lot of people I don't I don't care for Jordan Peele's movies. Don't entice me, but I don't care for horror films. And that's what he leans into recently. So it's not to say that he doesn't do a good job. I just don't really in horror films. But I do think as you said, he would have, you know, you want a swing, you want someone who's going to come in and put their stamp on something, right?
Like like you mentioned, Sam Raimi put his stamp on Doctor Strange, right? You know, it's a Raimi film. If you want him to come in and do this, I think Jordan Peele would be the person to come in with a idea, something he wants to do, a story he's the story's being written, but he wants to tell it his. Take that story, tell it his way. He's got to be on board with that. I think he'd do a fantastic job, and I think I disagree. I wouldn't say disagree.
I think my thought process is is not like audience rating current Marvel movies. Have you seen how popular X-Men 97? Finn. Mike. you can't you can't throw away that X-Men goodwill that they just built back up for you this year. If you ruin X-Men on your next go like there is no there is no recovering from that, I guess. Right.
you're probably going to end up with an Eternals on your hands, where you have a lot of characters and no where to put them because, you're kind of gun shy, at the end of the day. So we both, like we both agree the stakes have never been. Oh, absolutely. I, I think I, I don't think there's anything wrong. I don't think he is a bad choice. I just, I don't think seeing his name would make me want to do it, but I would I would love to see what he would do with it though.
And you know, at the at the end of the day. So I, I would love to do that. So I think, I think he could, he could bring something to the table. Absolutely. And even if he doesn't do it, you know, maybe, maybe something else will come out. What if what if he does Midnight Suns instead? Like, like the that kind of horror film. Like, oh, so lean into what he does. And, he's also doing a video game with, he you could gamma ray, I believe so, so we can see what he's doing next.
But actually, I think I think, I think, X-Men is going to come back in on park. I mean, we both agree to that. next thing is, someone a relatively, I wouldn't say positive. Well, the ratio of successes is higher than most people. Scooper has said for the Marvel Cinematic Universe phase seven. if you want to know what it's going to be about, likely looked to the stars, specifically Eternals Volume three, which is a comic book series. So I have to decode just phase. Yeah. Seven.
I can't believe that we're already at the point where we're dropping a seven. That's like what. I it took I, it took me a while to do the math on that even. I was like, oh are we, are we out. Of six thought we were still in phase four. But I forgot that that ended after Wakanda Forever. So we're currently in five and then we got to we are not even on to the next one. It's crazy that we're already at that digit already. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
And the well, the to me, the next, you know, thing kind of just give me whiplash. But it's like someone saying, look to Eternals for for the next phase and, Eternals volume three. I actually own every book in the series physically. because it was written by Neil Gaiman. as the writer of this, the series. And it's, kind of kind of an interesting, you know, tell of, that people on Earth, I think maybe the Eternals, it might have been other people have forgotten their memories.
and, they're, they're they're kind of recovering those memories for, like, half a million years. So I don't know what part of this 12 issue story to pull out of it, but, I mean, that's a that's a wild thing to be throwing out there. I mean, to me, that just sounds like there's going to be some sort of mechanism that they build into this world to kind of reboot it. Right? That just what it seems like to me, it. It sounds like maybe an awakening of that universe, I guess. Right?
Like, hey, we are all mixed match collaborations of other universes coming. That realization. I mean, I'm trying to remember because I'm just trying to think of live action adaptations of kind of like reboots or like kind of mash permanent mash ups in a way. And I just keep thinking of that Arrowverse, crossover. Crisis on Infinite Earths. Yeah. But the thing is, I really didn't watch those, seasons all that much, so I don't really know how it continued on after that.
But that ended with all of the, you know, characters and actors in the same world. And I believe all of the leads retained their memories of everything that they've been through. But just everyone else, like all of what, the normal people in that world just kind of like, oh, let's just always been like this. This has always been our world.
So, yeah, I mean, you kind of have to do that when you're kind of bringing in, like, actors and all of these different TV shows that you've built out separately. maybe something like that. Oh, is what's happening, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I don't either. It's just a weird I mean, we're very early on, obviously we're not even. We're in phase five. phase six doesn't end until the end of next year. So phase six is a start till the end of next year after Fantastic Four.
Or maybe we'll faint, I swear, I don't know, but, like, it's just a weird, sound. Weird? This. It's interesting. It's an interesting series to to call out in the middle of it. So I'm gonna have to go dust off those issues and reading and and see if it brings up anything. I'm like, oh, this would be a great, great thing to go. But if anyone, sees, that out in the world, you can go grab a, grab, I guess a collection of Eternals Volume three, or you can.
All right. I've been waiting to talk to you about. We have not talked about this at all, people. but Venom The Last Dance got its first trailer earlier this week, and we haven't said a word to each other about this. and I'm excited to talk to you about it, because you did. You did exactly what I wanted you to do, Mike. You put the venom horse on our thumbnail because I'm like, this is gonna be the wildest thing I've ever never dreamed of.
Coming out of a venom movie is that they venomous the horse. But, I mean. The the trailer gets me excited because it just seems so wacky and just out of pocket and just a fun time with goo and Tom Hardy. but I, I kind of thought that maybe it would improve with the sequel, so I would be considered what? crazy. What's the definition? They always say the definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over
and expecting different results. Yeah. So, I should not be expecting different results, but the this does give me the feeling that they're leaning into the, the, the weirdness of the world a little bit more than usual. It seems to be going into the a little more abstract, than I thought it would. Now, I think at the end of the day, it's going to come down to, goo versus goo because we see it.
What looks like to be other colored symbiotes, or at least symbiotes colored in different lights, which are kind of like, what's that? separation anxiety video game we talked about last time, talking about the different coloring symbiotes kind of maybe bonding with, I would say Baron Mordo, but it's not. He's not Baron Mordo. Chiwetel, I can't pronounce his name, whatever his name is in this, but, you know, there's that, but I. I didn't expect him to throw down a xeno phage.
an alien that eats symbiotes. fighting them in this movie. I thought it would be another literal symbiote rather than the xeno phage at the top of this. So I was surprised by that. the the horses. oh. I was going to tell you, Mike, we get to see Doctor Kirk Connors. Did you notice that in this, movie, in this, there is a dude with a long hair and a van about, you know, two minutes into the trailer or so, maybe closer to the end, like, it's got, like, a little guitar, like a little, little van.
He's playing, And that is resistance. Who played Doctor Kurt Connors in The Amazing Spider-Man. And, obviously this is not set in that universe, but if it is or if it is, you know, a Sony slash Spider-Man parallel universe, literally, it could be this version's Kirk Connors. He runs into, out in the wild, like not doing science stuff. Like maybe he gave up on science.
I don't know, they it seems like a really point, like you mentioned, pulling things out of thin air and just to make it wild on this journey here. and also the other thing, I've seen this, this so much, and it's boring me to death. it is that the, the bar scene? Did you notice that? That's the same dude from the bar at the end of No Way Home and they're like, oh. Danny, Danny Rojas from, Ted Lasso. Yeah. They're like, Oh, and the the lady.
And this is also from Ted Lasso, I think the the the scientist lady in this one. She's in there briefly. is it, you know, don't you know, temple maybe so I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That is her. Yeah. Yeah. So she's, she's doing this but they're like oh well are they. Is Sony retconning Marvel's Spider-Man No Way Home scene. And I'm going to say no because obviously he went from one bar play, went right back to the other bar he was at in his universe.
And was like, it's the same dude, just a different universe, right? Like, I don't think Marvel needs to have the black symbiote. And if they if Sony retcons that have been in the last and people are going to riot, they're just going to riot like that, that's a there's no way to it. so if they do that early on in this movie, it's going to just absolutely be destroyed in reviews and everywhere else. But, overall, I don't know what to expect. It does seem like this is the last movie.
Like, it seems like there's some pretty somber moments in here, like venom or any. You're both going to die at the end of this movie. Like. Yeah, I'm curious what the plan is for, you know, Sony after this, right. You know, do they just keep resurrecting? Just bizarre one off Spider-Man characters just till the end of time? it seemed like venom was the most successful attempt that they had out of it, and now it's coming to an end, so. Well, the. So Kraven Lord knows we got Kraven. Yeah.
John Kraven I guess. yeah I don't think, I don't think Sony has a plan other than hey Marvel, can you make us money with your buy by doing Spider-Man for us? Because it seems. Like it seems like a company that operates quarter by quarter, right? We just want to make sure the next quarter is better than the last one. We're not going to think about it too much. Yeah. We, Yeah, I we've not heard anything about Morbius two, thankfully. you know, Silver and Black was canceled.
They're they, they're not doing the Spider Society movie, show it in Amazon anymore. but they are moving forward with noir, with Nicolas Cage, so literally. Crap. Shoot. But this one, I think, was also written by Tom Hardy. and, and Kelly Marcel. who? Kelly Marcel wrote the script from a story from her and Hardy, and I think she is also filming it. So, seems to be a pretty, pretty tight crew here.
I'm going to watch it in theaters, but like, at the same time, I'm not going gonna really go in and expect, you know, I'm not expecting top tier quality cinema out of this. One's this one. Come out again. I've already. October. They all come out in October. Let's see here doesn't even. Yeah. It just says October. And in the, the, description here, that's all I have. Do you. Yeah. Is there any other animals you'd want to see victimized after watching the horse?
I'm like, ooh, what other animals can we victimize in this universe? Yeah. It seems to be the only way to get me, excited. Maybe this is how Kraven gets his powers. that lion, that. Oh, yeah. It's magic blood, though. We saw the magic blood already in the trailer. They're not going over. Yeah, that that. Maybe that's, Maybe that's venom. His blood. Maybe that's where it. Yeah. There have been, Well, you know, Spider-Man two had Kraven in Venom, and, I was I was hoping for a minimized Kraven.
yeah, I don't know. The only other thing is, you know, there's a scene where, Tom Hardy's underwater and being, like, shot by those dude, the military dudes. So maybe like, a victimized fish or shark would be interesting to watch, but that would be. A gator, maybe. Yeah. Yes. A gator with an accent to, very, very southern of you. But check out that trailer in our in our show notes. moving on, Mike, I've not had a chance to watch The Acolyte yet.
this week, with everything going of going on, have, Have you watched it yet? The Star Wars? Yeah. Checked it out last night. Okay. So we'll we'll probably talk about it on our next one because we'll have four of the eight episodes under our belt. or for at least half of them. But it is now the most watched Disney Plus premiere of 2024 with 4.8 million views in five days. and X-Men was just, 4 million. the X-Men 87, and it's out of 93% on Rotten Tomatoes, comparable to Andor in terms of scores.
So yeah. I feel like the only news I've been seeing about this show is the, the review bombing that's been happening. I don't I didn't really look into it. I didn't want to waste my time trying to figure out what counter culture doesn't like something that's happening in this show. The only thing I can say about after watching two episodes of this show is there is there's nothing in these two episodes. So far to come to a definitive opinion either way.
yeah, I if I had to criticize it in any way, I would just say like, oh, I feel like the kind of the show hasn't quite gotten on the road just yet, but I don't know how anyone could draw huge praise or huge negativity. Just from the sample of these two episodes that we've gotten so far. So if you're somebody that's motivated by reviews in any way, well, I'd love to really know what to tell you.
Yeah. The, 93%, I think is the first four episodes, I think, where the critics got to review the first four. But I would still say I what you mentioned is the same way I felt about watching Andor, like it took three episodes to get that show going, or if you remember, like first, first two were like, yeah, okay, not bad. But the third was like, all right, we're off. So I'm excited to see if this is getting the same critical reviews after four episodes of Andor, then we could do that.
But I would say on the other side, the the, negative reviews are literally brand new accounts with, literally the same, the same content over and over again. It's pretty, pretty sad to kind of see that on there. to, to do that, you think they'd have some sort of system to work on that, like, hey, this is the same content copied and pasted over and over again, but. Isn't this what AI is supposed to be doing? Can't I recognize? It's very obvious.
Like, hey, this account was just made and yeah, the the quality of the review is just low. It's like one sentence, you know, like. Right, right. Yeah. Well, exact. It's, you know, so many days old and this is what you came here and reviewed and it's the same thing somebody else posted, you know, two minutes ago on another account. So, but I'm excited to watch it. I just haven't had time to sit down and give it the full attention. It works. So, we'll probably, talk more about it here.
in two weeks. Mike, I wasn't gonna include this news here, but this is, this is true to our title of our show, the superhero slate and the slate for Superman. The movie has been revealed, and it looks to be. I don't know if this is, like, someone's collection that they have that they're keeping, like, a personal collection or like a museum or like where this is. But this is the the slate for the Superman movie with James Gunn.
Yeah. I was trying to figure out what the decorative artistic element is on the bottom of it. Like, yeah, it seems to be abstract at first, but then it makes me think, oh, is this like a crop of maybe like some visual development for the movie? It's like. It's a mirror if you look at it. Like, is it some like, Kryptonian architecture and like the I don't really know what it is anyway, but it's colorful. Yeah. It's, it's got again, obviously the big thing is. Yes. Right down the middle.
I don't know, like, I thought all slates had that digital timer on them, like, instead of the, the dry erase feature these days. So it's interesting to see, like, literally a clapboard, if you will, of this nature that doesn't have the digital screen on it. who knows? Who knows, maybe this is like a, like more of a vanity slate. If you watch the. Inaugural one, they use it for the first and the last kind of. Yeah, something like that. Like the big scissors when you when you cut open a new build.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you get the big Kingdom come inspired logo. You see the red, blue and black falling into it. like I said, the design is essentially a mirror left and right if you cut it down the middle, other than the Superman logo. So, that might give to the duality, Mike, that we've talked about there being like an ultra manic clone of Superman. He has to fight in this universe. Maybe that's what it's leaning into.
I don't know either, but I thought it was cool because obviously that is our show is called Superhero Slate, and we have a slate to talk about for the first time, I think, in ten years of doing the show. So check that out. And lastly, we're going to talk about the upcoming the trailer release for the upcoming horror film alien Romulus, directed by Fanny Alvarez. Who's done was Don't Breathe and, Evil Dead 2013. this movie set between Alien and Aliens.
Mike. So this is an in between the first two movies, and boy, does it, lean into homage those first two films quite a bit. Yeah, I watched this trailer and it felt like, oh, this is the equivalent of, like a next gen update for a video game. You know, we know Dead Space. The game is heavily inspired by the alien movie franchise, and Dead Space did this very thing where they had, like a, next gen rerelease of the original game.
So, like the trailer, the way the, the alien logo is revealed, kind of like bit by bit at the very end. it's that the content seems to be similar of people stuck on a ship, and then we just really the only thing we get to see are the, the little, what do they call face huggers? The face huggers. That's right. we just get super, super quick glimpses of the actual xenomorph. And then I think I, they they showed one actor who was, like, very stoic and kind of, computery.
And I bet, like, oh, yeah, that's probably the, the android of the crew. Yeah. So I mean, it looks this looks cool, right? We did the one thing we do know about it was it was originally supposed to be like a Hulu movie, and then it got promoted to the big screen. So I'm expecting a little bit of a smaller story, but some of the visuals looked really cool too. There are some cool exterior shots of like, the ship kind of going through like, you know, debris and space that look pretty polished.
So I wonder if maybe the move from so, so the big screen that had, some time to polish some stuff, I don't know, I. I actually think you're confusing there's an alien TV series coming to Hulu, so, I think covenant was made for 4 or 5 by Fox to be a movie only. I mean Romulus or Romulus. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Romulus is. Yeah. Sorry. I was looking at the other one. So I think Romulus is made to be a, to be, a movie. I don't think it was a Hulu. I think the Hulu thing's a different one.
so coming, after, what, the play. But what I like, I mean, there's the blood, there's the horror, there's, you know, there are a lot of scenes, you see, like the pulse rifle. So you get to see the interior, the ships and stuff like that. But I think this one is like they go up to a ship and find the ship that is up there, and it might be tied into what was the alien covenant. the robot David put a lot of those, samples of aliens and face huggers and, like, little capsules.
so what if they're, like, on this ship? And that's where they find them years later, decades later, because it's, you know, decades after that, and kind of unleashed because it looks like one of them came out of, like, I like a little, goo pod at one point rather than, like, an egg, like, maybe they've been incubated there. So I expect to see some twists and turns in this.
obviously it's got the R-rated, I love the, like it look like a, like a light sun was shining through their chest, but Chestburster burst out of them. Oh, yeah, kind of thing. So I really looking forward to the really into the, the body horror that it's aliens. And there's one scene at the end you get to see, literally it's I think it's when the trailer goes silent, the main character, she's floating towards green like goo in space and zero gravity, and that's like the alien blood.
Like the acid blood. So could you imagine the horror of being in zero ground, floating towards the alien blood like that would eat you alive? So I'm like, like they're going to get creative with this. I, I really, I really enjoyed it, so much. I even went, like, watch a breakdown video afterwards. I'm like, tell me more about aliens. Like, because I don't, I don't I've seen the movies, but I don't live in the alien universe. So I'm like, tell me more about this.
Like I want to know more about how this fits in there. So, let's go to August 16th. But I'm excited to check that out. this this, late summer, I guess, when it comes out. Mike does the episode this week. Anything else before we sign off for two weeks? No, I mean, I'm looking forward to, you coming out to visit me, Chris? hopefully, people, our loyal listeners will be happy that we will be recharging at a heavily IP based theme park.
Yes, some two weeks and let you know what our what our adventure was like. Yes. I'm I'm excited for that. But the people want to know what you're up to in the meantime, where can they find. Yeah, yeah, they can find my webcomics at left rewards risk.com and Pickled comics.com. Chris, if people want to catch up with you, where can they find you? You can find me on Instagram folding 87 Velden or video game systems, the same name that people know more about the show.
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