- Hello everyone and welcome to Superhero Slate, the show where we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. (claps) We love TV movies and superheroes, so let's talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name is Mike. And this week, we have a Red Hulk Confirmed. in the Captain America trailer. Yes, it's coming. All caps. It was trying to do the Avengers Hulk thing. Yeah, so absolutely. [Laughs] It's the toys of McDonald's five months ago didn't give her the way this trailer did.
One of the two. Agatha is a horror series all along Mm-hmm. and we have a trailer for that as well. Marvel's just dishing out trailer trailer trailer. And we are here for it. Spider-Man noir is not Peter Parker. And we're gonna talk about what that means and more. Mm-hmm, very lucky. Yeah, just another low key, you know, weak at superhero slate. Not a lot to talk about. Not a lot of trailers. Nothing huge. Not at all. Nothing going on in our personal lives whatsoever.
It's just the mundane as we just wait until San Diego Comic-Con gives us something interesting to do. Yes. Or the inevitable heat death of the universe And I... [Laughs] whichever happens first. Yes, I recommend everybody, if there's something externally distracting in your life, (laughs) Whoa, whoa. whether it's politics, an environmental disaster, you know, if you really want to take your mind off of something, I would recommend what I just did last week and have a baby.
Bring a child into this world, a newborn, an infant, birth it, add it to your household. This time of year in this part of the country. [Laughs] And the... (laughs) Yes, in the middle of the summer, I recommend it, Yeah. because you will have the perfect distraction for, you know, an unnumbered amount of years. I mean, potentially here in the United States, I might need a distraction, Well, at least 18 legally, you're required for it. a good distraction for four years coming up.
So... [Laughs] Yes. If I've learned anything from Jamie Foxx [Laughs] and Kanye Song growing up as Gold Digger. But congratulations, Mike. Yes, thank you, thank you. I can't just see you and your wife for having a healthy baby Yes, I was very curious how the podcast would go after this baby arrived, and being able to come back so quick to the show. I really appreciate that. (sighs) Yeah. and of course there is absolutely no pattern or schedule established yet.
I'm barely a week into this yet, but we got some family in town helping out. Thanks to Superfan Jim last week for filling in for me on the podcast. I believe he was asked to fill in without a good, distinct, clear reason why to protect my privacy, Chris, (laughs) which I appreciate. Absolutely. So thanks a lot, Jim, for filling in for me.
Within 24 hours too, because obviously, Oh, it all... I mean, you were like, you know, you send a very, you know, receptive photo and I was like, [Laughs] "Okay, I don't have to ask him. Yes, it all happened very, very quickly, which I believe is a common thing that happens in a lot of births. "He's not gonna be on the show this week. "So I need to find somebody quickly." (sighs) Yeah. It's all of a sudden, same old, same old, and then, oh, baby is on the way, this is crazy, this is nuts.
So this is our first, I guess, production baby, you know, when you're watching a movie at the very end, they show you the babies during production, the first production baby for Superhero Slate podcast. Yes. And this will be a fun, I'll have new insights going forward on, you know, projects, (sighs) Yeah. because I've never looked at anything through like a family-friendly or kid lens before, Yeah.
which, I mean, I don't know what the percentage is of people out there having kids, but I gotta imagine it's pretty high, the human race would evaporate if people didn't have them. Well, yeah. So maybe the next time I see the next Pixar trailer, instead of thinking, Inside out three. "Oh, is this a movie?" "Yes, is this a movie I want to see?" (laughs) I'll be like, "Oh, is this a movie my kid wants to go see?" Yeah. So I still need to see Inside Out 2.
It is the third highest grossing animated film Maybe now is actually like the perfect time to see it. It's never been more perfect to watch that type of movie. in the history of films now. So you'd be part of history watching that, Mike, if you can. Yeah, all I want to do is raise a Pixar kid and not a Illumination Minions kid. Uh-huh. Well. I'm like, "No, no, no, that's the junk food. Let's try to eat a little bit healthier. Yeah. Well, give him a choice.
Watch the Pixar animated stuff, please." Let him feel like it's their decision. [laughs] That's how you do it. Don't gatekeep it from him, saying, "Yes, this is yours." But I mean, a podcast I listen to pretty regularly, you know, the main host has had kids over, since I started listening. And he's like, as a father, you know, when he starts to talk about movies and how like things that affect him differently. He's like, "Well, as a father." And the other guy's like, "Oh my God, not this again."
So I very much expect to have those conversations on the show with you. And, yeah, you're gonna drop it on him. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to flex this baby on everybody. But no, very excited. Thank you for having me. Congratulations again. I'm glad everyone's happy, healthy, and we're here. But if you haven't, I mean, we're not gonna talk about what we've been watching 'cause obviously you are in an entirely new level of life right now. So you have nothing.
I doubt you've been catching up on a lot of things. But I will tell you, okay. Actually, surprisingly, out of all the things that we've kind of been ignoring on this show, That is, that's what I was gonna say. I am up to date on the acolyte. I don't know how. I found like little pockets. Yeah, well, so we watched literally within 12 hours, also in episodes, because we sat down this day and I was like, I need to watch it. It's gonna finish up this week.
I'd rather watch this over the boys because I don't wanna feel bad show. I wanna feel good show. Oh my God. I saw the perfect post the other day was, (laughs) Yeah, yeah. "Is the Boys inspired by the United States or is the United States inspired by the Boys?" I'm like, "Oh God, I don't know if I have the mental bandwidth to check in on this season just yet." Yeah. Which is a shame because you could easily find a clip of me the last time that we talked about the Boys on the show. Mm, yeah.
And every time I watch it, I go, "This is the best thing happening in comic book media right now." And I'm sure this season is great, but yeah, I don't know exactly when is strategically the right time to watch this. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I think we can. Yeah. And I'm the same way. We will get around to it. It's not necessarily us falling off the show. It's just summertime. You can't watch everything as Listern's show Patrick and I talked about. He was regaling me on that.
But we did watch the, so we were caught up on the act as well, so we might be able to do a season series. I don't know, review next week. My wife, she came at me, and we'll probably talk about one last one. She was like, she watched the first episode and she's like, what's everybody complaining about the show on the internet for? I was like, well, it's not the quality of the show if it gives you any indication. And she's like, okay. Then we watched another one.
She's like, I don't understand why people hate the show. I'm like, they don't hate the show. [laughs] They hate that. There's women in the show pretty much. And she's like, oh, oh, kind of thing. And then we watched another one and she's like, okay, I get it now. I get why they're mad. I was like, she has a degree to them, but she's like, those people shouldn't be on the internet complaining about the show. [laughs]
So it was fun, like regaling her with like, Yeah, I mean... here's what the internet's saying and why they're saying it. Not necessarily like having an outsider's point of view who doesn't live in this stuff, kind of go into it. Yeah, and it's funny because the chatter at least in my social media bubble with the acolyte has died down a lot in a negative sense. Mm-hmm.
No. I wouldn't say I'm seeing glowing reviews every time I open up my apps, but for that first couple weeks, it was a heavy discourse about the quality of the acolyte, Mm-hmm. and now it's like, "Oh, nobody's really talking about it right now." Oh, I think, I think though, yeah, absolutely. Maybe the season finale will, you know, reignite it, you know, if there's any twists or reveals or anything like that.
But yeah, I think you got a good point. We'll come back next week and we'll have kind of full thoughts on it. So we cut that, yeah. So that's really what we've been up to as well getting that done. But I'm gonna jump into our first topic here because it's an interesting topic and there's nothing out of it. There's like one bit of news out of this yet, but I think it's gonna really affect us more down the road.
And that is that Disney has suffered a 1.1 terabyte data hack through its Slack channels, [whistles] which has been reported as of yesterday. And then I'll start to make some news articles today about stuff found in it. And I, Yeah, if nobody is familiar with Slack out there, if you happen to be lucky enough to not be in a corporate job where you have to use, you know, internal communication tools, if you're slacking, (soft music) Yeah.
like maybe you're just blissfully unaware, like you're just a lumberjack in the woods and you've never heard the Slack notification noise before. Oh, I dream of your life. But it's basically like an internal IM service. This is teams or something like that, The fact that... Yeah, I think this is a... I don't know if it was the same vulnerability, but Slack was also hacked, I believe, at Somniac, right? if you're familiar with teams or, yeah.
I think that was the same route in which the hackers got that Wolverine stuff. It, I think it's the same, this same group was in Sarniak and then also, they got to their data servers. And I think this is the same group that also did the Rockstar hack with the Grand Theft Auto 6.
Yeah, which is really funny because when I think about it in that perspective, right, you read these headlines of like a one terabyte hack, like from Disney, and you're just like, oh my god, this is going to be groundbreaking. (soft music) Rockstar games. This is going to change everything. This is really going to shake things up. Like, is this company ever going to be the same?
It's just like, oh yeah, like this happened to Insomniac and would you say like Rockstar not long ago? And I've already forgotten, like I've forgotten about it already. Yeah. Well, And, you know, it did happen, I would say, to a bigger extent at Sony because that was like a foreign government attacking. yeah. The email hack, yeah. It,
But even then, like, nobody even talks about that anymore. So I guess it's just, you always have to remind yourself that nobody's like finding a vaccine well, this is, this is a, yeah. or like a neurological gas agent. It's all entertainment, you know. Yeah, this isn't Mission Impossible. This isn't like, oh my God, if this data gets out, it'll sink the company, kind of stuff either. Yeah, all these sleeper agents under cover will be found.
Yeah, it's nothing, world changing, it's nothing company ending. 1.1 terabytes, not even a lot of data if I'm going to be completely honest with you, Mike. Like that is not a lot. Yeah, on a corporate level, you know, with all, with the, I got to imagine there's a ton of people within those Slack channels. Yeah. Yeah. (soft music) I mean, I've used Slack at previous jobs before, and there's like these little like macros that you can do where you can like type in like Giffy, Oh yeah.
and you can search like an animated GIF and like send it to your coworker like as a response. Like, I legitimately wonder what percentage of this 1.1 terabytes is just people sending GIFs to each other, which is really funny to me. Oh yeah. Well, it could release, it could lead to release information concept art on our details.
However, the only thing I've gotten so far out of this looking, coming through the articles is one whole channel dedicated to tabletop role-playing games like Warhammer, 40K, and Dungeons and Dragons, which shows that again, this is just a chat group communication device, not a, hey, we have to use this to pass important information on. This is an email server hack, sadly. So we're not going to get that stuff.
And then also something today was, Fortnite and Family Guy had a crossover a couple of seasons ago. And apparently, the way that 20th Century Fox, which is owned by Disney Works, they didn't want Peter to become someone like a bad guy that you sought out to kill, even though he ended up being a boss in the game. Yeah. And then they released the chicken skin, the chicken with Peter.
And pretty much this thing confirmed that they're not going to work with Fortnite again because they couldn't agree upon how they want a Family Guy presented even in the game. So it's interesting that, 'cause everyone's like, "Oh, they're going to do more Family Guy stuff." But it's just like, well, this thing says not. They're not going to. So it seems a lot of this stuff even ended up through today. This chat, this group who got them, they're hacktivists, they're not holding it ransom.
They don't want money. They just want to put the data out there. So I've not heard anything juicy yet, Mike, but I mean, to go through all this data will take a couple of days. So I say, maybe if you have anything next week, we'll bring it back. But do be aware there could be potential spoilers. Yeah. There could also be data that is completely untrue. We've seen that before, right?
Like where the data was like six years old and you're like, "Well, we are well past that point of exit, so we won't have that data anymore." Yeah, yeah. When it comes to this show, I got to imagine the things that we're looking for, maybe don't land in Slack channels, you know. Right, yeah. It's like in-person meetings or something like that. So like I said, email is something a little more strong. Anyway, so that's out there. You see it's nothing major.
It's nothing that's going to shake the foundation of Walt Disney Corporation. But we were just discussing right before we got on here is that Deadpool and Wolverine is out next week, Mike, we are less than two weeks away from this movie. We are very excited to watch it. And there was a 35 minute fan event or teaser event going on around the country, or not a country in the world, and screenshots and video clips from these are making their way online.
So if you want to, again, as I said, everyone the past several weeks, mute these keywords on your social media channels, avoid clicking anything that says, or looks hacky, or not hacky, but like leaky and suspicious, try to avoid spoilers. I want to go into this as clean as I can and really enjoy myself. It's our only Marvel movie of the year, Mike. And they can't hold anything back now, as we like to say on the show.
But if anyone is worried about this, the review embargo lifts next week, July 23rd, Tuesday. So we will be hearing official reviews leading up to the launch. So that's pretty exciting for me. Yeah, stay tuned. Yes, and for people curious, the movie is one hour and 59 minutes without the credits, making it a hair shorter of Deadpool 2. So it sounds like it's gonna be a nice tight film along the way. Everyone was like, "I'll be three hours with all the KMOs."
I think a lot of those KMOs are clickbaits. So be prepared to temper your expectations along the way. Unless Taylor Swift shows up at your screening, then kudos to you. All right, we're gonna start with our first trailer. We got this earlier in the week, and a lot of people may have forgotten about it already, with everything going on in the news this week.
But Agatha All Along gave us our first official teaser of the show, not necessarily a title announcement, but a teaser, and it really showcases the cast of characters coming in, and Agatha breaking out of the hex, and something that I was not really expecting, Mike, but a lot of scary/horror vibes along the way in this teaser Yeah, we got... that I thought was gonna be more comedy, that when it's not, it seems like.
Yeah, to be honest, I mean, we got another big Marvel trailer to talk about coming up here next, Mm-hmm. but I wasn't expecting any of this until later this month, you know, and at the latest, you know, in August for D23. Yep. So, kind of casually popping open my phone when I had two seconds at the hospital last week. I'm like, wait, what? This trailer happened? So, I finally got a chance to watch this one. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. And this is... I hope this is like a nice little fun, like, fall vibes, like, series, like Halloween. You know, I wish there was more movies or content in the realm of kind of hocus pocus. It's kind of like, I want like cozy, but like a little spooky, but family-friendly vibes. And I feel like this trailer is giving me that they even bill it here in the in the trailer as like an Halloween event or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. I feel... this feels like a show that might... it might succeed in spite of the Cheypec era, right? Yeah. This is 100% something that was greenlit out of Cheypec's endeavor to put as much stuff on Disney+ as possible. , yeah. Mm-hmm. This was when he was greenlighting just everything. Anybody had a Marvel idea? You're getting a Disney+ series. So far. How fast and cheap can you make it was kind of the plan.
So, this seems to be almost the only thing to come to fruition out of that fever dream, right? So, I'm hoping it will be good because it seems like it's it's born out of, you know, the WandaVision formula, right? Be, we, yeah. So the cool thing about this is that, and I think this is where it becomes a benefit, is that it is created, and I believe even directed slash show run, yes, by Jack Schaefer, who was the writer/creator of WandaVision.
So, like, to keep that, I guess, [chuckles] that energy from WandaVision over to this is going to be the beauty of it, but the thing about this, it also doesn't look like WandaVision. It feels like there's a vision here. We want a horror show focused on witches and witchcraft and the coven and stuff like that. Coven's a big bird in a lot of content right now. Uh-huh.
If you like witches, boy, you were just eaten large [chuckles] this year, but what was cool about this, you get to see, I get cast to characters. It looks like there's some, kind of the ring scenarios. Like, it looks like that one kid is being chased by some lady walking, like, exorcist style, like upside down with her head backwards, twisted around, the arms around the trees look very creepy.
And then the thing that I kind of didn't expect was them showing, like, a dead body of Wanda Maximoff very early on in this trailer, like, literally kind of showing that, but if you go, like, pretty closely, the clothing she's wearing looks like the Earth 3/8 version of Wanda, which she has the blue track, or is it about hoodie, and like the, I think jeans wasn't on. Mmm. That's a good point. So it's not the one that we saw die.
Yeah, I think the biggest question that I have for this show is, where does the story transpire, right? It looks like the one that was killed in that universe along the way. (crickets chirping) Are we going to be seeing everything happening inside of like Agatha's head/inside of this hex that she is imprisoned? Is this going to somehow magic is going to slip her into another universe and that's where the story is going to transpire?
Or is she going to be like in literal, like, Westfield, you know? Maybe everything we saw in this trailer, like, first episode or something like that. And the second episode, she's like, she broke out. She's out in the real world. I don't know. She's on like a revenge tour or something. Well, that, yeah, that was, But they seem to lean heavy into like these, this procedural cop vibe, which I don't know if they're going to kind of go with the same trope of me.
They're going to go with the same trope of maybe a different theme every week. it seems like the beginning of the movie, or the show doesn't, like, a little bit like, "Oh, we're gonna do this," and then there's Aubrey Plaza's Rio Vidal, who's like, "You need to break out of this." And then I think it goes into a more, like, she wants to walk the witches road, but she needs multiple witches to go with her, and it looks like they're gonna go find other powered people.
Now, I will tell you, the character Joe Locke, the younger gentleman in the show, is very rumored in this, put this, Mike, take yourself out, throw it in your mouth, because he's rumored to be one of Wanda's sons who was like, came to life in the world after she wanted them to be alive. So like, the Wiccan one, not the one who dressed up as her as a kid, rather than the Speedster one.
Yeah. So it could tie in this, I've heard rumors that possibly Wanda will be at the end of the witches road, like she'll make an appearance like Scarlett, not Scarlett, Elizabeth Olson will be there at the end, doing a cameo as well, and then tie this into, you know, more, like everyone's talked about wanting to bring Wanda back, right, everyone wants Wanda back alive.
So I don't know if it's a secret war thing or how they're gonna do it, but it looks to be a very much a, live in the magic realm. And then also Deborah Jo Rupp, who was in the WandaVision, is back in this. A kiddie from that '70s show, and now I guess that '90s show is in here as well. So I do think your Westfield idea is there, like they're still in the town, but I don't know where that big glowy door goes in the floor either. Like you said, that could go somewhere else.
So I'm excited, it's got two episode debut on September 18th. That puts it, the last episode coming out right around Halloween, Mike. So we should be having a very, Oh yeah, fun spooky. a fall season, a lot of people gonna be dressing up as Agatha for Halloween parties. Ooh, okay, all right, we'll cut it out. But Agatha along very, very quickly came and went because it was overshadowed by the very quickly, out of the blue drop trailer for Captain America, brave new world, Mike.
And you asked me, literally, why would they not save this for Comic-Con? Same thing with Agatha along D23. And I said, well, they've got to get this out Yeah. before Deadpool starts next week. Which is, and this is, I saw this in my, I guess, inbox from Chris early morning, waking up from, you know, a feeding, a late night newborn feeding session. So that's it, right there. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
I was like, am I seeing this right? Am I, is this, is this one of those dumb AI trailers that Chris is sending to me? (laughs) Yeah, yeah. Because he does that. He doesn't do it to punk me. He does it to just reiterate, I hate these things so much. I hate 'em so goddamn much, yeah. And I was like, yes, Chris, I agree with you. I also hate it. Uh-huh. And then it's just like, what am I, is this real? And then, yeah, it is real. And boy am I conflicted.
Again, a year and a half ago, I'm conflicted because we've had so many reports of this movie, like, not, you know, being great, you know, trying to retool it. You know, Eiger doesn't want to, yeah, yeah, Eiger doesn't want to put bad stuff out anymore. that was when those reports came in, so. (laughs) But then like, fuck, this trailer is like slick, right? I mean, I know it's like, these are like two different departments, right?
Mm-hmm. I think I saw something to the effect of if you spend like $300 million on a movie, you better be able to at least get a good two minute trailer out of it, even if it's bad. I was like, okay, that's a fair take. I like that. No. But yeah, this trailer is slick. I love the vibe of it. (laughs) It feels very like Winter Soldier-y, like Secret Mission, Spy, Covert-y, you know? So it starts, there's like a violin string Yeah. It's like a, it's kind of like a countdown clock in a way, almost.
being struck very sharply, briefly, throughout this. Yeah, it gives you pressure, it feels pressure, like watching this, like, oh my God, I'm claustrophobic watching this show because everything's happening so close and so fast. And, you know, it's got Harrison Ford's first live-action appearance as General Ross, replacing the late, I can't think of an actor's name, I do that from time to time, I'm blanking.
But, you know, they even briefly mentioned, hey, why don't you have a mustache as you shave it off so I can do better in the polls? Win the election. [laughs] Yeah, you know, we get Sam in the, some of the white character makes a mess. We get Carlos, John Carlos Esposito's new character, it shows up like four times in this trailer, doing like winter soldier shit, Yeah, which is interesting, right? Because we know for a fact that he is the addition to the movie.
like kind of as you mentioned, right? Like, yeah. Yeah, they could, yeah. So we talked about this a couple weeks ago of like, how much can you add a new character in in post, but you can't necessarily blend them throughout the movie, right? You know, you can, you only have the ability to sprinkle them. So I'm curious how integral to the plot he's going to be.
I saw that you, you have this down here in our notes here that it looks like we at least got some rough confirmation of a celestial, Yeah, go ahead. Yes, so there's some stuff like early on in the first, possibly in some background screenshots. I think, third of the trailer in the last third, you see Falcon flying around. And I would say this is where the CGI looks the shoddiest because it looks like an orange sunset in like a very watery, blurry thing.
But you can see literally, I think it's one of the fingers of the celestial Tiyama from Eternals in the background. Uh-huh. And we've heard rumors, we've talked about rumors for years that they were going to include this in the movie at some point. So it sounds like even if they've retooled the movie, they've not taken that part out yet. One of the other characters they retooled is Shira Haas Ruth Batsaroff.
She used to be a character called Sabra, who has been in the comics for years in Israeli, I guess, agent of some kind. Like Commando or something like that. Yeah, but she's now an ex-black widow operative who has the trust of General Ross. So she's in the trailer for a minute. I do watch all myself. Uh, and we know why that, it's like we know why that change happens, so maybe that's like decent pivot on there and... That's an opportunity to take it, right? Absolutely.
Yeah. I watch everything on YouTube with captions on because not only am I visually engaged, I want to see stuff as well when they go back, but they do confirm the leader, Tim Blake Nelson's leader, is doing voiceover work in the middle of the trailer as well. So it was really, really cool to see this, Hmm. but I think there's an old spy movie with Gary Oldman called Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy, do you remember? Uh-huh. This trailer feels like one of those movies, doesn't it?
Like a born, like an early, one of the first born movies a little bit. It's got the flashing, the black and the white, and like, oh, they're gonna do some redacted text covering eventually, right? This is all gonna be off the books kind of things. Yeah. And I agree with you.
It shouldn't feel that good based on what we've heard and what we've reported on over the years, but it feels like they're putting, even if the trailer's any indication, and we know sometimes it's not, but we at least could tell, you know, what was it, a madame website from the trailer. So, you know, there's a plus here. This, it inspires, it inspires confidence, which is what is what they need right now. It feels okay. Yeah. Exactly.
We have the swell, the swell of positivity, at least fandom and height for Deadpool Wolverine, right? You know, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, they're going out, they're doing the Bachelor at, or the Bachelor promos, you know, having fun. They're doing the aviation gin bottles. Everyone's loving it. They got the world's ugliest dog in the movie out on the press tours with them having a good time. So, yeah, there's that. So they gotta ride that swell and act all along.
Felt pretty good. Captain America Braves Your World feels pretty good. And then, just when I think they wouldn't do it, Mike, just when I thought this trailer's done, they're gonna do it, they're just gonna do a roar at the end. Okay, their T's in the red Hulk. Yeah. They show the damn red Hulk, Mike, right on the screen with us, grabbing the Captain America shield and throwing it down. Surrounded by cherry blossoms even, at the Washington, the White House.
So, I can't believe they actually put that in there. If I'm gonna be completely transparent, I cannot believe they've done that already. Yep. I mean, honestly, they needed it too, right? They need to, like we just said, inspire confidence, engage in hype, put this in front of the Deadpool trailer. Hype. Yep. Mm-hmm.
One funny thing that I've been seeing online, people asking earnestly about the origin of Sam Wilson as Captain America, because not everybody does their homework, you know, like Chepek turned the, you know, Disney Plus into, Yep. Yep. where, oh no, you have to go watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier on top of that, you know, also maybe go back and rewatch Endgame, Yep. so you remember kind of how it ended, and you just got to, there's a lot you have to kind of keep up on.
Hashtag it's all connected. But I, yeah, but I would say people are having maybe some of the same concerns that I'm having, (sighs) Mm-hmm. just with the character in general, of like, I understand how somebody could be super powered with a, like, kind of like a Wakanda powered suit, which is what we saw in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but still, it still bugs me. Mm-hmm. I can't quite get over it that he can throw the shield with such ease.
You know, we don't see it specifically in this trailer, but he does seem to be tossing it around like Captain America would. He had a montage in Falcon and the Wonder Soldier, man. Ugh, that fucking montage. He had a montage. He had a montage. But anyway, I do think it is kind of funny. I, and I, yeah. We are to the point, finally, in the MCU, where people are just like, yeah, somebody needs to hold my hand. I have no idea how this even happened.
I, like, so many people checked out after Endgame, right? Uh-huh. And they're like, oh, this is not, and then they're kind of seeing these trailers, like, oh, Deadpool's coming back? That's cool. Mm. Oh, what is this, a new Captain America movie? I thought that dude, like, died at the last movie I watched, so there's going to be a lot more of explainer videos online getting watched, I think. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, possibly. I think I've seen more who is the red Hulk than anything else. [laughs]
If I'm gonna be completely honest in mine, Mm-hmm. it's more like who is the red Hulk and what is obviously, it's the buzzwords. That's the keywords, right? The people are trying to tag on to right now. But everyone looks at that. And I think even though it's historically in the comic books, it has been Thunderbolt Ross, what of Esposito's character is the red Hulk? Is the red herring? I know it's a little bit of a mystery, but I think the red Hulk is the red herring.
I know that it's wild and it's, you know, how you do it in 30 days and put them in there. Well, we saw 30 days outside filming, not inside green screen filming, or anything like that. But like, if you look at the, that our thumbnail that you created, you know, Harrison Ford's hair is a lot lighter gray than the red Hulk. It's not saying he couldn't transform and turn it, but like, the theory, I will toss out here just to prove that we're thinking about it.
He matches the same color as in haircut Esposito's character has, if you look at him. So, yeah. I was doing some pants analysis earlier. I was like, freeze-frame, I was like, who, did I see anybody wear these pants? Yeah, they cut it so well with that. But unfortunately, they're a little too non-descript trousers. So, you know, trailers and the show notes, you know, look at that, we're gonna keep going on.
I think we'll probably have, I don't think we as consumers will get it, but the public will not, but like they're gonna show probably some extended stuff at San Diego Comic Con. They showed some extended stuff of this couple of weeks ago at like, Mm, yeah. with CinemaCon I think that they cut from here. So, excited to see kind of what they're bringing to San Diego. And I think the cast for this will be there. They'll probably even confirm Esposito's character possibly on stage as well.
So we'll see. But moving on, Avengers 5 is still, they're still threatening us with this, Mike, after all this time. [laughs] No, I say that, I can't. But Michael Waldron who wrote the script has handed the script off and left to work on the next film. A lot of people are like, oh my God, he's leaving the movie. Well, a writer writes a movie, gives it to the studio and says here you go. And then they usually are not brought back in after they start filming it right in pre-production.
They like, here it is. They'll touch it up, but they won't pay a writer to do it. They'll have like script, what do they call them? Not supervisors, Mike, but like, Script doctors? touch up artists on scripts, I guess. Yeah, script doctors. So my guess is they're gonna be doctrine it until it begins, not really rewriting it. So the same report comes to say that the next film that he's likely working on is actually "Avengers Secret Wars."
So Waldron will be writing, not nothing that's confirmed or announced yet, but doing both Avengers films to keep the continuity between them, which I think is a great idea. Yeah, that makes sense. No, no, no, Age of Ultron was a weeding. I don't recall who wrote Age of Ultron. Was it the same writer as Infinity War or an endgame? I don't... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Okay. Yeah, well, there you go.
Yeah, so the duo who wrote "Infinity War and Endgame" There's good to have continuity in writers. [laughs] Mm-hmm. also wrote "Winter Soldier" in "Civil War." So that's why all those movies worked well. And they have a directing duo. Yeah. So Waldron, he wrote "Multiverse of Madness," again, which you have recently revisited and were like, "Oh, hell yeah, that's a good movie." Mm. So I feel confident he can handle the multiverse stuff and have a good time with it. So excited about this news.
I think we'll get some confirmation possibly next week, which brings us very quickly into our next topic of "Sandio Comic Con," which is literally July 27th. We are two weekends away from it, Mike, and this is very exciting for us. Yeah, I was just coordinating with Chris before we started recording. (softly speaking) Yeah. I guess amazing synergy for Marvel. Deadpool comes out that very same week.
I guarantee there's going to be free screenings down there in San Diego and downtown to watch this movie. Man, what a crowd to watch that movie with. That's going to be nuts. (softly speaking) We were trying to figure out, oh, yeah, we're going to have to record two episodes. Yes. This is going to be probably the biggest weekend for the podcast all year covering Deadpool and San Diego Comic-Con. So bear with us. We will be busy for sure, but we will absolutely be reacting to everything.
Yeah. We are going to be working around Mike's schedule Yeah, I'll bring the baby on the show, get her reactions, her blank void stares to everything. as a new father to make this work for you guys. So, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I bet she's got really good inputs on how to make Deadpool better, if you will, after that. She better, she wants to live in this household, she's going to have to have opinions. I swear, I really hope you're just playing old episodes Hey, that's a good idea.
to her, like over, like, instead of like, "Well, I'll advise you," just like, "Here's some old podcasts to listen to." [laughs] Yeah, "Get Old Uncle Chris." It, listen, it's just like training AI, just in a more organic way. You don't know him yet, but you will. Yeah. Long term. It's a longer term train, yeah. [laughs] Yeah, exactly. But, so, Saturday, July 27th, from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Pacific, so 9 to 10 here Eastern is Marvel's panel. They have confirmed that on their schedule.
So, that's Hall H. It's usually shorter than usual, but there's a Kevin Smith thing starting at 7.30. Uh-huh. So, no big deal there. I'm very excited to kind of see what they bring to the table. And I kind of made a list here, mostly for SEO purposes, but what's left to announce? Avengers 5 Directors, Fantastic Four Information, which they're filming next day, X-Men Information, Secret Wars Writer, Dr. Strings 3, Shang-Chi 2, Thor 5, Legendary Star-Lord even.
I forgot he was even getting something at the end of Guardians 3 until recently. Oh, yeah. So, I don't know. Literally, I'm up in the air unless those Slack channels turn out to be something good and juicy for us. [laughs] But, I've got nothing yet, Micah. This is... It's an interesting... It's a great weekend for Deadpool and... for Marvel because of Deadpool and this, but all the Deadpool news, it seems to be like drowning out everything else, popping up in the background. Uh-huh.
So, that's a positive, but also a negative, because I'm like, "I wonder what's going to come out of this." I mean, anything else I missed on this list that you'd want to see? Yeah? Well, I mean, everything else that's missing, it will be following up at the next event. They're basically doing a part one and part two here for the summer releases. Yes. So, as we get closer to Sanio Comcom, they'll come and go and then in August, Disney does their own event.
You may have heard us talk about it called D23, which is set bi-yearly every two years, Micah. Yeah, every two. They do a D23 and they have confirmed that Marvel television or Marvel animation, it's not television, I'm going to correct this. Marvel animation will bring news about What If Season 3, maybe another sizzle reel because we already had that one teaser.
Uh-huh. X-Men 97 Season 2 was even brought up with their new, they have a new showrunner taking over Bo D'Ameo's spot, so they've already written a lot of it, so I don't expect a lot of changes. They're Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, which is an animated show that should be coming out later this year, but we have no idea if it ever will, because they keep changing it in the title.
Then Eyes of Wakanda previews as well, which is the show that will come out this year, and is set directly in the MCU, Micah. You were on the show last week, but they confirmed Eyes of Wakanda will be an MCU set show to give us a history of the MCU through Wakanda's little spies that they send out into the world. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, I want to see what Eyes of Wakanda looks like. I like that idea. We've not actually had any confirmation on what the art style is, Yeah.
and I would love to see that, because we talked about it off-air, but last week we had the Watchmen Part 1 trailer, right? And if you and I discuss that Watchmen Part 1 literally looks like the What If animation style, and I don't know if that's an art choice, Uh-huh. is it cheaper to make that, like that? Is it what people are enjoying?
But I think Eyes of Wakanda will again visually be different, because every animated show thus far out of Marvel animation has been drastically, I guess, visually different overall to me. Like, I can't think of a single art style they've shared. What If is one, X-Men's another, your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man looks like comic book cutouts. So, yeah, I'm excited for that. Mike, anything you want to add to D23 animation? No, I mean, this, we're, it's exciting, right?
Yeah. I, this is like the summer of news and hopefully we'll be writing the high of a good, you know, dead pool release. Yeah. D20, we're extending the show. It's all coming up super heel-sleight. We're getting renewed with everyone in these announcements, as it keeps coming out. D23 is always great, because I never know what they're going to bring, and despite the fact that they have Marvel animation, Marvel television could be there, but I think New York Comic-Con will be Marvel television.
It's time to shine later this year. Yeah. Well, also to a, to a lesser extent, we don't often talk about the theme parks on the show that often, but D23 is where they usually do their big like theme park update and announcements. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe we'll finally get some news on that Avengers campus multiversal Thanos ride. So that could be kind of like a dark horse bit of news that we'll have in a couple of weeks.
They need that, because boy, I'm still bitter about how bland that park is. No, that was... Well, you didn't like seeing those, uh, that stunt show up on that catwalk in the hundred degree heat from 40 feet away. With three characters who were dead in the MCU? Yeah, no, not at all. I loved it, man. I wish they could keep doing it every day. It was fine. Is Taskmaster technically dead? Taskmaster is still in there, but I guess Black Panther and Black Widow were there.
I thought Taskmaster was still alive. I thought there was another one. It's just two, because we saw the Falcon up there. We waved to him when he was on his phone or something on the balcony at one point. Yeah, he, he's just chilling. Yeah, but Black Panther and Black Widow, you could have used two more modern characters, I guess, but they have the coolest effects to use, because Black Panther climbed up the wall with a little rope attached to him. Yeah, anyway, it's fine.
Move it on, Spider-Man Noire. This TV series on Amazon is just wild. It gets wilder and wilder. We are in the Nicolas Cage era of Crazy Things. Long Legs just came out last weekend, I think. His little scary movie he's doing, where he's the villain. But the biggest news here is that Spider-Man Noire will update the story, so that Nicolas Cage is playing a different name of Spider-Man. In the logline is, "Amazon Prime is bringing a fresh twist to Spider-Man Saiga with their upcoming show.
Breaking from tradition, this series will feature Nicolas Cage as Ben Riley, rather than the iconic Peter Parker." And if you know Ben Riley, what is that name from? He's a clone. He is. He's usually the Scarlet Spider as well. He's known for wearing that sweatshirt. However, I think I'm going to use a big asterisk on this mic, and you tell me what you think. That Amazon will use Ben Riley in...
He will be everything that Peter Parker is, but Ben Riley in name alone because they cannot use Peter Parker. This is a Batman in Gotham without Batman scenario. Ye, yeah, this is weird. It just, it just feels like the strategy like of Amazon Prime, like just picking up the crumbs of the MCU and other superhero universes. [laughs] Cape Crusader, yeah. Like I'm very grateful for them for, I guess, technically saving the new Batman animated series.
But that's, it's odd that that's not on max because it seems like that's where it should be, right? Well, David Zaslav is a normal man with normal things, so yeah. They're doing the same thing with the, the Spider-Man. He's a, he's a, he's a normal man that does not eat humans. I'm sure about it. Yeah. But yeah, this, it just, and isn't the, there's something else. Well, there was a silk spider society that was going to be on Amazon, I thought there was one other, oh yeah, that's right.
but they killed it. Yeah. So it's just like the whole time I think about this is just like, what's, you know, what's the strategy here long term, you know, any one off idea with good writers, you know, can make a good show. Mm-hmm. No. [laughs] But, you know, do I mentally invest in this? Maybe, I mean, Nicholas Cage is kind of exciting, but I don't know, man. Yeah. From Ghost Rider to Spider-Man Noir animated to Spider-Man Noir live action is going to be crazy.
Mm-hmm. I think, again, I think it will be a different type of Spider-Man Noir. I think it will be like a '30s, you know, kind of gangster noir kind of thing, and he's like an older washed-up cop rather than the version we saw in the comic books.
But moving on, actor Brin and Gleason, who's known for Mad-Eye Moody and Harry Potter, he's the edge of tomorrow, he's in a lot of stuff, joins the show as the lead villain, and he's most likely going to play a crime leader version of Norman Osborn, because he looks like a Norman Osborn kind of thing, kind of right. Uh-huh. And then Lamorne Morris from the show, New Girl, is Robbie Robertson. So they're casting people around, like, higher-name actors around the show.
Now, that doesn't mean good actors equals quality, but I don't think of a lot of the things Brin and Gleason's been in, and I'm like, "Oh, that's awful." Right? Like, you know, I feel he could do anything he wants at this point in his life, and, you know, if he's choosing to do that, there's got to be something about it along the way. But I'm excited, I'm not excited, I'm interested to see what they're going to do with it. I'm actually pulling up Brin and Gleason's Wikipedia page of movies.
Oh, he's in the New Joker movie as well. Look at that. So we'll keep you guys posted on this crazy, crazy show. Alright, let's shift into the weekly thing where we talk about Superman set photos and videos, because boy, this is becoming a habit at this point, it feels like. Like, remember when we used to have turtles every week, and now we have this? So it's pretty enthralling.
Yeah. I love, I love this though, because this just harkens back to a time, a simpler time where the telephoto lens could tell us everything we wanted to know about a movie. So even though I constantly complain about James Gunn just terminally being online and just stop responding to every random person that has a question about your projects coming up. Mm-hmm. He still seems to have time to go out in the real world and film, so God bless him. It's like, it's so fun.
I think one of these pictures is him on like a spinning arm or something, like fighting that one, the engineer, is that what it is? The Ultraman looking dude. Well, there's the Ultraman Mr. Trifficant Engineer, and I think it's Ultraman. I think it's the Black Suit dude who looks like Black Noir for Onset kind of person. Yeah, but it's just, this is just, it's so much fun. Yeah, well... This is just great.
And the thing is like James Gunn knows that this stuff is going to be seen too, but he's confident enough that it's not going to ruin the story, you know, or anything like that. Mm-hmm. So, I, yeah, this is a solid move. Two... Very professional. Well, three things. I would say first and foremost, I think he came out already and said, I love it. he's like, "I'm not stupid enough to film anything with spoilers out in the open where people can video it." Uh-huh.
Fair enough. You're a director, you know what you're doing. You have a whole team behind you. You're not the one making all the shots. People are calling shots for you. Number two, last week there was an explosion on set. This week they're using the actual baseball field on set. They're using real sets, Mike, like real locations, and I think that's fantastic for filming production, because it's not all green screens, it's not all blue screens, right?
It's not, you know, a lot of directors are coming back to building the sets or having this kind of stuff, and I enjoy that they're using a real baseball field to film that stuff, and I think that's cool as hell. And then number three, James Gunn, he's just still on social media because he's released the official logo of Superman. Three days ago, we were one year out from Superman, and the official logo, which we've seen in a blue million other places.
So no surprise here, but he thought we should all see it on this day. Yeah, now we just have a slightly higher resolution, something to play around with, but yeah, yeah. All the merchandise is going to be all over the place on this. People are going to be making face. Now, I will tell you, I don't like the sun glare behind the logo. It looks weird to have a glare behind a logo that's printed on something. What do you think about that? I assume that that's there to inspire hope.
It's the sunshine. This is not going to be a dark, gloomy Superman. This is going to be a bright sun, cheery Superman. He can't, nothing can be held back. They have an entire franchise, multi-billion dollars in the future, writing on this one movie. Yeah. And it just seems, it seems like he's doing everything right. That's true. It doesn't seem like there's any shortcuts being taken, you know, so this is, thumb thumbs up.
Well, I think the social media announcements are taking some shortcuts, so when we saw that first suit, I'm looking forward to this one. and we kind of ribbed it a little bit, looking loose as he had that big explosion in the background or whatever was going on, but I am excited. I'm not down, I'm not dire on this, and it means... Last week, we also saw the first look at Nathan Fillion's Green Lantern. Do you saw that as well with his little red hair bowl cut kind of look?
So, they're having lots of fun with that stuff. So, it looks like he's making the movie he wants to make, and we'll keep you more. But, that shifts into the next movie, which I believe will be the second movie in the DCU. Sadly, but also good, is Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. Now, I'm not sad that it's Supergirl.
It's kind of weird that they're just doing Superman, Supergirl, and in DC Universe, when there's literally hundreds and thousands of other characters they could be working on, that aren't Batman and Superman and Jason. So, sad to do it, but we got our first look at possibly the Supergirl logo for this, from some San Diego Comic-Con merch. And it looks like the S is also very...what's that called? Kingdom Come inspired of Supergirl as well here.
So, not...we can't get a lot out of this, but it's fine. My assumption would be, since Supergirl for all intents and purposes, you know, Kryptonian, similar in superpowers, somewhat similar story and origin, [laughs] obviously they come at saving the world from their own perspectives, but you know, I guess depending on the storyline you're reading, they're like literally related as well.
So I'm trying to think, well how do you differentiate yourself rather than kind of just making the same movie? Hmm. I would think that her movie is going to maybe reveal something like bigger within the universe, like a bigger character, a bigger villain that's being set up for the future. So, her...yeah. So, her movie is Set in Space, not on Earth, so that's a plus, because she's usually out in space doing superpowered stuff. Yeah, that's great.
And the comic book Woman of Tomorrow they're taking from is Set in Space. And also, last week, Jason Momoa is re-rumored again to be Lobo, and the son of that who is a space bounty hunter. Now, this is really going to set the tone for how James Gunn is going to approach space, you know, in this version, you know, because we see what it looks like in the MCU, you know, it, it, it, And he said that, and he drove that with Guardians, so... yeah, but like Lobo drives a space motorcycle. Oh, yeah.
Well, I want to know what that's going to look like. That's going to be, that's going to be interesting. I would love to see what they do with that. I think James Gunn, even if he's not designing it, if he puts someone else in charge of the space for that, but he does have a really, really good...you know, again, he did set Marvel space up with Guardians one, so absolutely killer.
So, we'll see if that comes from...but shirts, if you're into Supergirl stuff, this is the least revealing Supergirl costumes or merch I've seen in a long time. So, we've got that going for us in that. Last, not last, second, third bit of DC News is the final designs for the Creature Commandos has been revealed. This is a publication for a comic book cover. So, they're going to use comic books, we'll use stuff from the movies, and this is one of them.
And honestly, not much has changed other than Rick Flagg Sr. looks a little more jacked than he did in the first one. A little grayer hair. Looks a little hunk, looks a little hunkier. Yeah. The, the art looks beautiful. If this, I mean, I know you said it's a comic book cover, so, you know, they usually go a little bit more off model when you're doing just standalone illustrations, you know, that things have to be a little bit more structured when you're animating them.
But the characters look amazing. I love the dark dramatic shading. This feels very kind of like anime coated in a way of just with the, with the dynamic poses of the characters like that Rick Flag pose that looks like straight out of like a studio trigger like character. Yeah. So, yeah, so it looks great. Is this a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? Is that what we're doing over here?
But like, also, like, the shading and shadowing looks very anime-ish, like, especially like, the fish person in the bottom right, I don't know any of these characters' names, so I'll be honest with you, so. And like, you know, it looks fun. I mean, it looks wild, and I'm excited to see what it looks like in motion, so hopefully it's good, because this will be like, I think the first official DCU content launch, so, later this year, so we'll see how that plays off.
And based on the background, it looks like they're in like, maybe old Europe, right? Like an old European castle kind of going on there. Uh huh. Maybe that's where all the creatures come from, so, if we get any more information, we'll pass along, but you can check out that link in our show notes. And lastly, this is a double bit here, but I've classified it under Lanterns.
The show is that Lanterns and the Penguin shows have struck deals with the actual channel, HBO, to debut on there simultaneously with Max. So these have, there's, there are no longer Max originals. They have moved to a split streaming release, so if you don't have Max and are paying for HBO, you can get it. I forgot HBO as a channel is a real thing until I saw this news, if I'm going to be completely honest, but they are apparently huge.
Yeah, this is crazy. This is like a bigger kind of like streaming news, strategical update. There's this big shift over at HBO Max, which is not even the right name. I keep forgetting it's Max, which is proves the point here. They realize how valuable the, the, the brand HBO is like even after trying to throw it away, they're like, oh, people still look at that as like prestigious. Yeah.
So now they're bringing it back. So now all these things that were originally supposed to be Max originals like that, the premium Harry Potter series is now going to be an HBO series. Hmm. Yeah. So it's a smart move. I mean, it makes me wonder how long does it take until they rebrand Max just back to HBO again. I don't know, but it is pretty hilarious to me that Zazlaw doesn't know what the hell he's doing. It depends on whoever buys.
It depends, whoever buys Discovery, Warner Brothers Discovery will, will do it. Yeah, who's going to buy him up? Max, you obviously, I think inherited what was it, show, not showtime, what did inherit? The Discovery. Maybe. Yeah. It was the Discovery app, but Max merged the other to make Max. So absolutely, I think this is a good thing. I have no qualms with things being on both channels. I think honestly, they can split the cost.
They make more money, probably, I think, off the regular channels and lots of people still pay for cable or add on HBO, if you will. Max comes with my internet subscription, so that's a plus, but no issues here. I think that's a great thing to put on as many things as you can when it launches, rather than just one. Apple TV keeps coming out with content. I hear it keeps firing off. I keep hearing great things about new movies and new shows on Apple TV Plus.
And the newest trailer we got is one for the upcoming series, which is a remake of Time Bandits, a 1980s film. I don't know if you ever watched Time Bandits or not, Mike. I, I know absolutely nothing about time bandits at all. So I have absolutely no nostalgia or knowledge of it. It sounds familiar. So at least maybe that is strong enough to, to warrant a remake.
Okay. Yeah. I don't think I've seen, well, I guess I was going to say I haven't seen Tycho Batidi do maybe family friendly stuff before, but he has worked with kind of like kids as leads before and hunt for the wilder people and Jojo Rabbit. Yeah. Yep. Jojo Re. So yeah, this isn't totally out of his wheelhouse. And some of the other stuff. And this is like, Time Bandits was originally a Terry Gilliam film of Monty Python fame starring, even had John Cleese in it, Sean Connery.
The recently deceased Shelley DeVall was in it. It's really, and some other people, Michael Palin from Monty Python as well. So it was really a very wonky film where like a kid is fascinated with history and then he, you know, finds out like his house is like a nexus point for like going through time and these people are going through time stealing things from and having like an adventure through time. And I enjoyed it. It's a very, it's an 81 film.
It's got a lot of that like, very, you know, Monty Python sketch, or sketch-esque kind of things throughout because they're in different times. They're in different, you know, eras throughout. So I think, I think that's interesting to me. And to see Taika Waititi take on this is going to be interesting with the modern update. I really was kind of impressed with Lisa Kudrow from Friends fame as the lead actress here.
I thought, you know, she's playing interesting, like, it's like kind of like a Jack Sparrow, if you will. It felt like a little bit of times, but like, oh, I'm down. I'm down with this. Taika Waititi is a, I think he's the hero or not to hear like one of the good gods in this even like appears as a the water king of the sea beside no one point and then Jemaine Clement, frequent collaborator with Taika Waititi, Fly the Concord. He is the villain in this dressed up as like a big demon dude.
So I'm, I don't think I need to go out and buy Apple Plus to watch this right away, but I'm excited for an update on this movie. It was an 81 so 43 years later, we can, we can get a remake of it. I think it's fine. I mean, since you're not into this, you've never seen the original. You think you'd be up or watching it, or is this a pass from you? It's a series that I can understand. Mm hmm.
Yeah. Oh, 10. Yes, 10 episodes and they're doing the two week thing kind of not like Monarch, but they're doing two a week here. But like I said, Apple TV Plus is like, they're like the James Cameron of streaming services, right? Like, yeah, why, you know, you did okay one or twice, but they keep coming out with bangers. It was like, I can't think of anything like absolutely tragic out of or like awful out of Apple TV Plus, like offhand, right? Like, I was like, no one said anything horrible.
So it's got to be great. I mean, Ted Lasso was a, you know, came out of there, right? So I know they can do good stuff. Yeah, Ted Lasso, Severance, a lot of stuff going on, shrinking. Trinkage. Trinking, drinking. Yeah. So they're doing a lot of stuff. And I know like Killers of the Flower Moon, you know, was an Apple TV Plus project. Again, Monarch, legacy monster. So we'll see. I just curious, I put it here. Not, not, not know what you thought.
And then I think what is actually the biggest news of the week, Mike, in which I thought about putting this into the thumbnail with the Red Hulk is the surprise announcement of Shrek 5 coming out in July of 2026. Yeah. And I don't know if you saw Puss in Boots, The Last Wish yet or not, Mike. Oh, I saw it's a lovely movie. I love it. It's absolutely fantastic. Well, the ending of that sets up this film, right? Because they go back to, he's like, I know people, you got to go find kind of thing.
And, you know, they've come from the original cast, Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz, coming back, you know, I, Shrek has become, I enjoyed Shrek 1 and 2 when, you know, the early 2000s. They've now become memes. You know, all the Shrek memes that you can find, you know, Shrek raves, even Mike. People send me Shrek Raze because they know I love a good Shrek. I love to get that Shrek Tube TV we've talked about. We've talked about on the show before. The mystery.
So I would love to take part in Shrek 5. And I'm glad we're in an era where you have a child to go to go experience Shrek with. I know. I, I, the, I mean, my two notes is one, I hope they try to continue some of the creative art style that they established with puts and puts and boots, the last wish, think, or I think that's what it's called with the Shrek movie, because I would love to see like a little Not necessarily for the first time there, but like, you're going to have a good time.
Yeah, the last one. Yeah, the last one. shot of, you know, inspiration, kind of restarting the Shrek franchise. And also this movie comes out July 1st, 2026. Yes, 2026 and my kid will be two years old. And I'm thinking Shrek theme second birthday party. That is perfect. We'll all go to the movies, enjoy some Shrek. It'll be great. I can't wait until you redecorate the nursery as a Shrek swamp instead of, you know, because you already kind of got a theme there with the forest vibe going on.
It wouldn't take a lot to get into a swamp there. Exactly. So I imagine that it's the most tragic bit of this news is that the lead singer Smash Mouth, who sing All Star passed away last year. So we will not be getting a new song from the same singer for this. I think that this is a fun little silly thing. I enjoyed Shrek 1 and 2. Eddie Murphy, I guess maybe has a minor resurgence lately, if you will. I know Axl F has been doing good on Amazon, I think.
Yeah, he's got that sequel. I think so. Yeah. No, I think it's Netflix, Netflix. Sorry. Is that where it is? Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, either way, Axl F, people have been loving it. He's doing that again coming back. I don't remember Cameron Diaz anything either, or Mike Myers, but sure, why not put them in the voice booth. Get their lines going while we can. Lastly, last but not least, Mike, I know you were sorely wanting to talk about this last week.
I even put it in the notes for you is the Hellboy, the crooked man trailer, which we talked about. I'm going to let you drive on there. You and I both discussed this. It looks low budget, but by God, it's the scariest Hellboy movie trailer I've seen so far. That's awesome to me. This is your time to rift. Yeah, I mean, a lot of, a lot of people sharing the sentiment of just like, I want to hellboy movies like, oh, we have hellboy at home and it's this trailer. That's right.
A lot of people didn't even know that this was in the works, you know, because they're not listening to our show, they would know if they listened to our show, you know, so they click on that YouTube trailer and they're just like, what is this coming from that same studio that's making those Winnie the Pooh horror movies like what's happening here. Yeah.
I think this is a smart, strategical move, right? You know, the first two hellboy movies were popping off during that early comic book gold run at the theaters a while ago. And then they tried to bring it back with David Harbour. I think David Harbour looked the part. We all loved the way it looked, but that movie sucked and nobody watched it and it didn't make any money. Yeah. So you have the IP, you gotta pivot. Yeah.
The first ones didn't either. The first ones are not box office darlings either. They are like fans. People love them after they came out rather than in the theaters. Yeah, but they do think but they got the Guillermo del Toro juice behind them. So that's that's helpful. I think this is a smart strategic move to make for them. I mean, we are eagerly awaiting the same move that they're doing for spawn coming up. Yeah.
So I'm curious how that's going to work. But this is this is smart, though. You take your IP, you make something interesting, cheap, and see if you can get a return at the box office. I mean, obviously this isn't like to the scale of like the golden army or like some demons trying to come out from the Earth's crust and take over the entire planet. Yeah.
This is like Deadpool. I mean, not Deadpool. This is a hellboy who is like a demon detective and he's on a case, you know, this is just any random issue of a hellboy comic you pick up. They're adapting it to a screen. I think that's super smart. A good idea. I think the I don't know who the lead is particularly. I don't know if I've seen him before it.
He looks like a hell. He looks like a hellboy to me. So I'm on all on board for this. Like, I paid good money to see that David Harbor hellboy in theaters. I distinctly remember the seat I was sitting in, the slushie I was drinking and just the awful time I was having. So just if I think this pivot is a smart idea, I mean, they're going to get backlash because it used to be more of a premium product, but I'm OK with it. Well, and.
Well, I think people have an idea of a premium product. But again, if they couldn't even get Del Toro enough money to make the third one out of the second, people weren't watching theaters or watching at home. Mm-hmm. And as you mentioned, you know, the we've talked about this, I think, toward blue in the face here, the theatrical model has to change a little bit.
But like, you can't have every movie be a tentpole movie, make or break your movie theater, right? Like you can't have a smashing grab opening weekend and expect to make all your money in the opening weekend. Mm-hmm. This, you know, low budget movie, get a lot of people to watch it because it's good word of mouth. You make your money back or more. You get another one. Guess what?
You go pick another hellboy story out in the middle, like, like not necessarily out in the middle of nowhere, but like pick a story that's good and tell a good story and then go on to another case for hellboy, right? And just make them like this over and over again. And that'll work and you get to, you know, make your money in theaters, then put them on streaming after like a month or two and or paid the video on demand and streaming after that. Mm-hmm.
And I think you've got a pretty good, you know, again, model a 24, right? Not a 24. What's it? Blumhouse, Blumhouse, well, maybe a 24. They all started that way. They made cheap movies that were good and then worked their way up to to the bigger names like they do now. So I think there's an opportunity here. And as I mentioned last week on the show, it's also written by the guy who created hellboy.
Boy, I'm like, yeah, Magnolia and then a guy who writes the other hellboy adjacent series like Abe's AP and stuff like that. Like they wrote the script. So it is true to the story. Yeah, Mike Manola. Mm-hmm. And if there's any changes, he made the changes himself because, you know, comic books don't translate to to TV or films one for one, one way. So I'm excited for this. You know, that's a I wouldn't when does this come out? I didn't I didn't look it up along the way. So is this a fall movie?
Who knows, it could be in four weeks, it could be next year. Is this is. Yeah, I'm trying to see because I like this would be a good Halloween movie like an October movie kind of thing like kind of thing. So I've got it doesn't say what is Wikipedia never tell me this stuff. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh, well, but yeah, absolutely good, good time with that. Thank you for adding in and I wanted to make sure we came back and brought it back for you, Mike, because I always make our show notes with you in mind.
Well, thank you. And even though we had super fan Jim guest host last week, thank you, Jim for stepping in there. It was not planned along the way at all as we got there. Mike, that is the show for this week. We will get you back into your new family having a good time then making memories, having a blast making bottles or whatever it is you do. But if people know what you're doing, what you're up to in the meantime, where can they find you buddy?
Yeah, you can read my web comics at liferewardsrisk.com and pickledcomics.com. Chris, if people want to catch up with you, where are you? Find me on Instagram, Valdane 87, VALDAN or video game systems of the same name if people want to know more about a show where they can come back in two weeks and get a double dose of Deadpool Wolverine and San Diego Comic Con coverage, which is usually our biggest episode of the year where can they get them goodies at the end of the year. Thank you.
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