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Mario Bros Sequel Confirmed, Batman Caped Crusader Leak, Rebel Moon v Barbie, and more!

Mar 10, 20241 hr 20 minEp. 465
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This week Superhero Slate is celebrating Mario Day with a sequel announcement, we’ve got a leaked look at Batman Caped Crusader series, more Disney+ series get steelbook releases, and more! Academy Awards/Oscars tonight; Razzies announced: Winnie the Pooh - Blood and Honey sweeps wins;  News Dragon Ball (11:50) Akira Toriyama passed away at 68 Creator […]

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to the superhero slate. The show we rundown the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV, movies and superheroes. Let's talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name is Mike. And this week we are celebrating Mario Day, which is today Mike with a sequel announcement. okay. March 10th, Ma went. Mario, get it. Yes. it's a stretch. Okay. They've been doing it for years, man. I don't make the rules. They roll with it.

We've got a leaked look at Batman Caped Crusader series coming to Amazon. A lot of DMCA takedowns on this one. So hopefully our links are still there and we record on this. More Disney Plus series are getting Steelbook releases and we'll talk about what those are and more. Yeah, if you if you weren't listening live, I was just rambling earlier and that's out there on the internet, but it's. We've been rambling for ten years. Mike It's fine.

It's good to know that even my ramblings are so entertaining that you could record them at any moment, and people will love listening to them. exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I threw a few. A little bit. A little, little tidbit, a little fun fact that Mike before we recorded because we usually at the last minute say something silly or, you know, off of beat. And Mike just ran with it about about a comic book cover and an artist.

So you know I was given a shout out to Jason who actually he wanted some inside baseball. On today's topics. I said, You got to listen. So, Jason, if you're listening, this is for you. I told him about the skater young variant of the century you brought me and you said you've seen skater young stuff before, Mike. Is that right? What you were saying? Yeah, I've seen some of his art on. Well, I mean, they originate on the comic book covers, right.

But boxed lunch occasionally will have some of his work featured on shirts there, which is pretty cool. But I don't think I have that shirt anymore. I don't know where it went, but yeah, yeah, I love those little characters. It's almost kind of like they feel like maybe like right at home and like, maybe like a marvel snap. They are. They're very strict. They are variants and snap of a kid variance and snap. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, which is great.

But you were talking about listening earlier and I finally got my wife to watch Mutant Mayhem, Ninja Turtles, Meat Mayhem with me last night because she didn't she didn't see it with me when I when it was in theaters. So that was just an absolute delight to revisit that movie. You were even bringing it up on the show the other week when we announced the sequel coming out and was 26. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think yeah, in 26. So I was like, Yeah, let's, let's watch it.

And it was I mean, it was just a great reminder of just like the movie succeeds on every single category of, like film. And the thing that I just forgot the most about not having watched it in like over a year is the soundtrack and the score is so good that Trent Reznor score is just so like thumping and pounding.

Like, I keep forgetting like, I should be putting this on when I'm like working during the day because this will like, just like, get me like grinding through projects and stuff like that. And then like the soundtrack, just like, great. Like, just kind of like st, like hip hop, you know, fun stuff. So like, this is, this is your, your call if you have not seen mutant mayhem yet to go watch it because it's so good. Yeah. And I don't I don't know. I'm just scrolling.

Watch real quick to see if it's in the show notes and it's not because it's probably just an unsubstantiated rumor. So you're doing your due diligence, Chris, are probably not putting it in here, but I did see like one of those like unfettered, like Instagram squares in my Explorer feed, which meant like I did no research on it, but it was just like, Seth Rogen and development for an R-rated animated Venom movie.

And that's probably what made me started thinking about mutant mayhem over the weekend. I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't think so. I don't think I don't think, number one, anyone wants to work with Sony at this point, animated or not, I think, you know, they're still I. Think on the and I think the animated side is the only place they have credibility.

But if he's taking another two two years right two and a half years to get that done then it would be another six years because, you know, we have heard and we've talked about the bad taste into the spider-verse now across the spider-verse, the second one left on the anime for the crunch time in that literally having anything started on the third one yet even though they have like a release date, remember? So I don't know.

Knowing that Rogan is taking the opposite approach for turtles might might clash a little bit with that sensibilities now maybe that maybe his production house him in that was it Evan Evan Goldberg maybe is that a name. Yeah yeah they have a production maybe maybe they would be involved as executive producers and maybe someone that they like. Hey, we, we want some ideas, but there is no I've not heard anything about that at all. That's that's a stretch out there.

This is what I love to do at the top of the show. Before we get into anything, I just like to throw like a stick in your perfectly crafted spokes of shownotes and I'm just like, Hey Chris, you want to talk about just random headlines I saw on the Internet before we get to your actual work? Yeah, no, that's fine. It's perfectly fine because you came in, you're like, there's actually things to talk about this week. And I'm like, Yes, last.

Week was a bit of a stretch, but I hope everyone enjoyed the show. Yeah, Yeah. This week. I would say this week is a bit of a stretch too. It's all one of the one of the core pillars of this episode is around a Zack Snyder interview on the Joe Rogan experience. And boy, that hurt to even get all. The facts, you know that I didn't even know that was where that was from. I just saw the show.

I did do due diligence to make sure that's literally what was said, and it was just quoted, I think, in a in a Vanity Fair. no, I, I got his quotes. I watched, I went through the whole thing to make sure we were we were good to go. And it was painful. It was so painful. But before we get in the actual topics they are today, the Academy Awards are tonight. Mike I didn't realize they were here so soon. All this time well has been out of the it's I don't know what day it is.

Yeah it's going to be crazy out here. If you're here on the West Coast in Southern California because we sprung forward, you're like, you know, you're doing like red carpet looks when it's like in the middle of the day. Yeah, I guess it would be good for camera. Ah, that's going to be really good for that slow motion guy. I mean, I think that's the only reason people care about the red carpet anymore is that dude with the long curly hair. There's the slo mo, like punch zoom.

Yeah, well, I don't even think he needed something because he has, I think underneath a canopy with the bright lights that you need for the slo mo stuff. Anyway, so I think he's controlling those, all those variables regardless. But absolutely. Yeah. It's the worst one because we lose the hours sleep, right? You know, the winter when we gain that extra hour in the spring, we lose an hour or so. I am, I am bummed out mentally, but you know, physically I'm very excited for this extra sunlight.

I'm having the evening to do that stuff. But the Academy Awards for tonight, I did. I snuck up on me. I had no idea. I'm very excited to hear the old white people telling us what movies they thought were good This year. So on the flip side of that, when the Academy Awards, the Razzies are announced and declared as well, and the Razzies this year completely swap what is Winnie the Pooh Blood and honey as taking the worst of everything.

So if you were concerned that Shazam Fury of the Gods or Ant-Man and the WASP Quantumania were going to take those awards, if you're not Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey did. Cross, I mean, this is I mean, this is good news for them, though. This is the type of movie that would never see an award for pretty much anything.

Like maybe if you got like a really talented, practical, like visual effects person on board, you know, maybe you could get some sort of, like niche industry like nomination for like, nobody's like, you know, done like blood splatter like this in a long time. Right? But like, I've heard this movie is so unremarkable on so many levels. It's not even one of those things where it's like fun to watch because it's bad. So this is just good for them because it just gets them in the news again,

you know? Well, I. Can't wait for the rerelease with Woods, with the stickers. The Razzie Award winning stickers are going to put. yeah, that would be a smart idea, at. Least lean into it a little bit. The, you know, Razzies worst worst picture of the year kind of thing. But yeah, other than that, you know, the only other movies I saw, you know, the movie itself and several actors for Shazam, Two Fury of the Gods was in there quite a bit.

but it was for Michael Douglas and Bill Murray as supporting actors in the last quarter. Maybe not the movie itself. So really nothing superhero related kind of fit in that last year. So that was you know a plus that that that that was, that was that. But yeah, honestly I don't know I mean anything else you got before we jump into this, I was telling Mike about my light gun games and he, he didn't know there was a Jurassic Park game. He probably seen it, but never played it.

But I was going to say, if anyone has any, I like to. I used to. I used to when I was younger, I loved to go to the movie theaters to play the arcade games before the movie kind of thing. I could do early and do that. Don't have that luxury these days, but would love to make up for it. But we can usually think.

Yeah. Chris I'm I am extremely like I'm not like a cheap person in real life, you know, I'd like to think I'm fairly responsible, but I am extremely price sensitive when it comes to like arcades, like, and also like the steps to do it. Like I have to exchange my physical bill for coins and then I have to use how many. Like the bigger the game is, like the more footprint it takes in the arcade. It's like there's going to take eight coins. Like, let me do the math real quick. Okay.

That wasn't $2 to play this and I'm probably going to die after 2 minutes. Well, let me let me let me show how outdated your ideas here. I don't think they've used coins since 2009. Well, in this case, this is this is me back in the day. Yeah. Now, currently it's all credits and it's just like it's 24 credits to play this thing. I don't. I don't. I don't even do the math. I just swipe the card. Is it green? I'm going to roll if it's red. Well, I need to go back and refresh it.

There's like a arcade downtown close to where we are, and they have like a VR setup. yeah. Where? First of all, I'm like, I do not want to put that headset on my face because I don't know how many greasy teens it's been on. You got the. Credit ratio to this one is absolutely insane. Like, it's like if Skee-Ball is like two credits. The thing was like 36 credit. So I'm like, there's no way that whatever this thing is doing is just better than my, like, cheap matter. QUEST two at home.

I can't believe they just do credits not make you just pay straight cash for it. Like most like, you know, like a laser tag does or something like that. Yeah, there should be like a bouncer in front of it and checks your ID and you got cash. You need to pay. We don't want you tickets. We just want your cashier. Can we come in through that? But yeah. So anyway, let's go do you know sad news at the top of the show earlier this I would say week was it maybe Wednesday, Thursday it was announced.

Akira Toriyama, the creator of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball, Super Stallion. And most of the artwork for the Dragon Quest series passed away at 68. The interesting thing about this I will say, Mike, that he actually passed away March 1st and they didn't really announce it until I think everything was said done due to the popularity of of you know.

That must I mean that that's actually that's pretty nice because probably gave his family time, you know, to process everything and you know, get all the affairs in order and then, you know, and then that's when like the fan community gets to kind of like pour in. I follow a lot of artists on social media, and this passing was obviously sad, but it was a it was a great celebration because usually he kind of just gets strictly lumped in with like Dragon Ball Z, like the anime series.

But I just saw tons of people just sharing his manga art throughout the week, which was great because that's truly what he is. He was a manga creator and it was nice to revisit maybe some of his more original or kind of classic Dragon Ball style because I love the look in the vibe of those characters.

Like, you know, obviously we we were like bored and it feels like we were born, born and raised on Dragon Ball Z, where every character has like points, whether it's in their hair or in their abs or their pecs or muscles or like even like elbows or like the pointy, pointy and ready to fight. But like dragon Ball, everything's just like, cuter, smoother. I mean, we were just talking about what was it, Scotty Young Yeah, at the top of the show with his kind of like, chibi art style.

I mean, Akira Toriyama, like, he, like, catapulted that visual style and it's just so, it's so nice. It's so charming. The the vehicle design. I mean, his vehicle designs are like, well. Yeah, I mean, you can tell when he did a design or an artwork, right, Like and that's why I like Lean It like the Dragon Quest series. Like when you look at you like I'm like, I'm like, why does this feel so familiar?

Or Chrono Trigger For me, if you're a fan of RPGs from the nineties, like, do you look at it like, Why does this look familiar? it's the hair, it's the eyes, it's the, you know, the body structure of, of this stuff, of what he created. And, you know, that is, you know, you, we see Dragon Ball like he did Dragon Ball. That was eighties right.

Like most of the eighties and some of the nineties And then he went on to just be kind of an artwork art designer for a lot of other things and doing like one shot's throughout. But you mentioned, you know a lot of your followers, a lot of other anime creators and really like one piece or Naruto or any other big anime, you know, was doing, you know, I guess tribute pieces, as you would call them to him this week coming coming out of that.

I wouldn't say that would work but like you know the his impact on anime and manga as a whole is just unrivaled right for for this current generation of people like I don't think we would have the anime that we have in America now if it wasn't for the adaptation and slow adoption of Dragon Ball Z into Toonami and other Cartoon Network stuff along the way.

Yeah, I mean, we were saying that this news kind of broke later in the week, so it's been a few days, but just for the sake of experimentation, I just pulled up my, my, I don't want to call it an account. My, my Twitter page. The domain is still twitter.com. So it is Twitter pulled up my Twitter page and I just started scrolling and then I'm already seeing more Akira Toriyama just tributes that I haven't seen. this one. This one's great.

It's a it's a it's a CRT TV that has a Dragon Ball Z in the screen. And then there's just like all of these like cords and like vintage, just like it's like a perfect, just little encapsulation of childhood. But yeah, he's going to be he's going to be missed. But I mean, what I mean, what a dream for every artist out there to just leave a legacy behind, like how he did, right?

So where you could say his name and people like, Dragon Ball, like right Like, you know, his name from, from seeing that and being part of that and the fact that something he created, you know, originally Dragon Ball and Dragon well, Z was resurrected like 20 years later after it kind of ended right in the mid 2000s with the new movies and the Dragon Ball super thing like you, you know someone else I tell you Taro, he he's the guy who's illustrating

Toriyama was like he even has that are anime series Dragon Ball game coming out later this year that he did I heard the story and character designs for before he passed. Like just just to continue taking something you created and loved doing and have it come back to life. Leaders even even crazier to me, right? Like. Is this like the one where like Goku, like, well. Do you think in GTA G.T. dragonball G.T. So. Like I'm looking at I'm looking like a kid. We talked about this before, right?

This looks familiar, but I don't know anything about it. So Dragon Ball was the sequel to Dragon Ball Z for a lot of people, but but Toriyama had nothing to do with it other than the name and some character designs. It's not his story. Nothing that was purely named animate, created only nothing based on the manga. Dima is essentially his I wouldn't say his version of it, but they are creating There's a Dragon Wish that makes all the characters youthful.

Again, young versions of themselves and is dealing with the small anime series. Yeah. So it's not it's not based on it's his own unique thing, but he didn't he did create the story for this one. And then there's another game in search of a thing he created called Sea and Land and a game is coming out later this year for Stan Lee and like a like a big open world game. And I think there's a like a web anime version of it that's just coming out this year as well.

So like, literally so much, he was still making stuff. You know. It looks like it's a it looks like it at least when I Google it, it's pulling up on manga. So maybe it's based on one of his. Yeah, he started with the manga then it's like it's continued. It's like this is One life 20 years later. Again, I kind of deal. So yeah, absolutely. His art style is just so strong.

Like I'm pulling up Stan Lee and obviously not connected to Dragon Ball in any way, but like you look at the back cover, there's a tank on it that looks like it's straight out of like the, you know, any of his worlds, these characters. So yeah, so we lost we lost a good one for him. Absolutely.

So anyone who's ever been, you know, we I guess anyone who's watched Dragon Ball or knows Dragon Ball like this is one of the biggest, you know, I guess, properties out of what Bandai I believe who owns it. So like it's still one of the biggest things and one piece has gotten out there as well, but this is great. Hopefully they don't make a live action adaptation again anytime soon.

I have a question for you, Chris, since you seem to be the Lord and master of screens in my life, can you read like black and white manga unlike e-ink screens? Some of them, yes. So I think some of the Kindle the candles have the ability to read some of those non colored ones. Yes. Because I feel like that would be like, great. I mean, obviously manga artwork would look amazing, like on an iPad, right? No one's saying that that wouldn't be the case.

But like, on on e-ink, I feel like that'd be kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. I believe I believe some of the earlier Kindles before they became tablets had that ability to to get those books in there, which is again one of the hardest things they read right to left and to the left to right. So whenever I'm looking at like panels on like, you know, Twitter or something like that or Instagram, I'm like, am I reading this the right direction? Do I need to like, how do I do it?

I just I just googled like e-ink manga and there's like, lit. I came across a literal, like, purpose built device just for manga. It's like, it's like an eco screen, but it's like two panels, like left screen, right screen for like right and left pages. and yeah, it's just like a little tablet shirt for reading manga. That's, that's great. that's pretty neat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will never forgive you for the time you had an extra order of Dragon Ball Z manga delivered to your apartment.

Mike and I didn't get them because you gave them away to somebody else. I forgot. I forgot about. That. I have not. I'm still holding you. I'm still hold that against you All these years later. All those free things I never got but. In the back. Right. Yes, but anyway. But yeah, well, well, like I said, power went out for him. Shifting gears, today is March 10th, as Mike has just discovered, Mario Day.

And with that, there's a bunch of Mario things being announced and video game release dates for like paper Mario, the thousand year door remaster for Switch, I think Luigi's Mansion two HD. There's a Lego Mario Kart sets coming out next year. So if you're into Lego Mario Kart. But also the big thing that came out was Super Mario Brothers. The movie has an A sequel coming out April 3rd, 2026. It was announced today. Same teams coming back, creative teams.

I don't know about the voice teams, probably the voice actors as well, but at least the same creative team that had me back to continue these story in the Super Mario Brothers world. Hey, that's the same year we're getting more turtles depending on the production cycle for the Spider-verse movie. Yeah, maybe we'll just have a repeat of 2023. Let's get all of these animated films. Get animated stuff. Yeah, I enjoy the Super Mario Brothers movie.

I it's still this week I was looking at the Nielsen streaming numbers, the number one movie streaming this week is actually The Marvels, which is great. The third movie is actually Mario. Super Mario Brothers still like it is still in the top ten of animated or not, just streaming movies like since its release on streaming.

Yeah, it's just one I mean that was I mean, not to dive back into the review for the movie, but that was my biggest criticism for the movie is it feels like an illumination movie, right? It doesn't feel like they're trying to elevate the material in any way to connect with adults. It's like, they just want to hit those kids. And that's what the kids do. They put a T, they put a movie on and they stream it.

They just watch it on repeat all day, five days in a row, six days in a row, take a break, because they're, you know, parents forced to watch something else when they go right back to it. So I'm not surprised that a movie like Mario is still in the top. But I think it's also one that probably is the least grating on parents in terms of that, like you're not getting a bunch of minion gibberish sounds or. Yeah, I suppose. Like Steve Carell's bad accent.

You know, we were talking about this. People hate. That group. Yeah. So like, it's not very grandiose. It's got popular songs like Take On Me whenever they go in there, despite the fact they had songs actually composed for those pieces. It's not a perfect movie by any means, but boy, compared to its original super materials live action adaptation, it's a godsend. Please give us another. But yeah, good for it.

I mean, I'm excited for for Mario to get a sequel in the Nintendo and Illumination or DreamWorks Illumination. Is that the same thing now? I don't know. To their own by the same parent company of Comcast Universal. Gotcha. Different. Different. Well good good for them to put out a movie to get that much faith in and want to create a second one. So, move, move, move it on with that. All right, let's get to the Zack Snyder Joe Rogan experience. boy.

And this is like, this is, like, perfect, like bait for me. Whenever Zack Snyder comes out of the woodwork and just says something stupid, I'm just like, I'm fired up. I'm fired up. Yeah. So first and foremost, we're going to get the Batman Superman thing. I like this. That's actually on topic here. The other one is as well, but Zack Snyder says he prefers Ben Affleck as Batman over Christian Bale because Batman's a big dude. and that he is not being rude to Christian Bale's version.

He just prefers a bulkier Batman and he wanted this big. I didn't put it in here. He runs big explanation of how Ben Affleck is like six six with muscles when he's like in the suit and that Christian Bale's a great Batman, but he's still only 510 with the suit on. I get it. You have a personal preference of what your Batman looks like in your comic books, but what a weird thing to bring up.

Yeah, I mean, for some, for some reason, I feel like this was more this was this from the Joe Rogan interview. All this was absolutely always okay. Because the expert, the expert interviewer Joe Rogan is which sarcasm noted there is I'm sure he's just going stream of consciousness and just like, who's your favorite Batman? Which Batman do you like more? I've met both of these guys before. But we will see. Someone's probably feeding them some questions.

They're like, Hey, we want a flare up the Internet a little bit. Could you ask him about Batman for a second? Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree. I think visually, Ben Affleck's Batman on screen looked amazing. I mean, that was on like on record for the Internet when we saw the first trailer for the movie. He looked so awesome in that kind of more like gray leaning Dark Knight Returns suit. And it fits that world, right? Like it fits that world of this Batman. Like he's what was he like?

There's a workout montage where he's pulling tires with chains and stuff like that to like, like just become like, we never get that with Christian Bale. Like, we we see him do more martial arts, right? He's more of a quick on his feet kind of fighter in that that series he learned from ratio rule. So like I understand it fits the universe but you know it's you know. I mean that the height thing is kind of like a moot point, especially in like production.

The only people that are going to notice are the ones that are on set. I mean, Tom Cruise historically, you know, a shorter guy, but you'd never know it if you looked at the movies that he watch. And it's funny and it all depends on the people you surround him with, because when I'm thinking like, you know, the scene in is it. Yeah. Just yeah, I guess Justice League, I suppose when all of the heroes are kind of in like Bruce is like warehouse and they're like, I think like fixing their.

He, he's fixing the thing because he's the only person who can't run or fly or swim fast. So yes, he has to do that. I mean, if you flank Ben Affleck with Jason Momoa and Gal Gadot, they're both seem like they're pretty big in stature. Like he actually kind of seems like short and compare. And I'm pretty sure Cyborg was there right as a robot. He's a very large person as well. yeah he is he is in that movie. Is I don't feel like he was six and a half feet tall.

If so, he felt like an average six foot person with everyone else around him being six and a half foot tall. So either either. Either way, this is just a primer for just like Snyder, just always trying to subtly say the stuff he does is better than you think. It is like he it just feels like he constantly has to kind of, like, defend himself in a way. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. So. Well. Well, yeah. So, Batman, is he?

He did not have anything bad to say about Christian Bale or, you know, Christopher Nolan's work, obviously, which led him. And he was a producer on Man of Steel. Right. Christopher Nolan was like, he helped feed that. So he didn't have anything bad to say. It was just a point to bring up that he of course, he prefers the Batman he created and had a hand in doing things with movie Non Rebel Moon. Mike, we talked about this.

I think we caused this to happen because I earlier this week I said Mike Army do Rebel Moon part two sometime soon like I feel like it's been years since that first one came out. I literally forgot about the movie. I often, like many people, think of my brain like a filing cabinet, right?

And like as things become unimportant, you get further, further back into the cabinet and just different things throughout your life will bring like the note car's forward or backwards, like, I swear, like Rebel Moon, like, I just I just missed the draw entirely and the car just fell on the floor. I just don't remember it at all. Yeah. So, Rebel Moon, Part one Charlo Fire, then Part two, Star Giver. It's coming out, I think.

April So we are, we are due for it soon so this is probably some pre marketing pre advertising getting right getting Zack's narrative he's probably on hot ones next week if we we pay attention but Zack Snyder on the Joe Rogan experience has done some interesting math if you will. To is this a I think a girl math this is. Worse than your. Math. This is like, what do we call this like director math? Yes.

SCHNEIDERMAN Yeah. So so I'm going to I'm just going to go through quotes here and make you bear with me here. So he says, so say right now, Rebel Moon has almost 90 million views on Netflix, 90 million starts or 90 million accounts turned it on. Well, it's give or take. They assume two viewers per screening. I'm putting an asterisk on every one of these sentences. We're going to cover them at the end. Then he goes on.

So you think if that movie was in theaters as a distribution model, that's 160 million people supposedly watching based on that math, okay. More people probably saw Rebel Moon than saw Barbie in theaters in the theater. That's how crazy Netflix, that's the distribution model they set up, he concluded. So he is saying that I forget the numbers here, 160 million people at $10 a ticket would make $1.6 billion make, which Barbie made $1.4 billion if his math is one for one. So I went through this.

I did this whole thing like I went through this meal listening to this, it kind of broke down. So there's big assumption here. Netflix is there. Viewers can get interviews on viewed minutes divided by runtime. Okay. On this podcast, you watched Rebel Moon, right? Did your wife watch Rebel Moon with you? no. Yeah, same here. So we out of our, out of our sample pool of two were 100% against his model already. Yeah. For this also he said Yeah.

So Netflix is viewers view minutes right away runtime gets a number of viewers which is still not true because if there are Snyder fans who just watch this like four or five times that's so one person right? That's one ticket.

Also assuming two viewers per screening is a non confirmed assumption that Netflix must use internally or that he has made up for this because there's no way in any officially really saying that they say we assume two person to people per view on this other announcement stuff.

Yeah I'm I'm assuming Snyder like I've said before, I want to know I want someone to identify this, this, this cheerleader, this, this bolster, this, this producer who at Netflix has such a hard on for Snyder that they are pushing all of his projects through no matter what. Whoever that person is. That is Snyder's connection and to like the Netflix universe so I could I could easily see whoever this producer has been like, yeah, just go ahead and assume like that.

Double it, you know, because like, you know, you have it on the couch. So there's multiple people there. So I would assume I don't think it's probably an official number. It's probably just some like coked up producer over on Netflix just getting to jazzed on Snyder. I mean, there's there's so many takeaways you can take from this, right? Like, even if you give the benefit of the doubt to all of these numbers, you know, factually right There is so there's so little in between.

So, yes, watching something on Netflix beyond going to a movie. Right. So even if you theoretically got all of these viewers, if you were to make them pay, you know, ala carte for Rebel Moon, you can go ahead and already take out probably over half of the people that watched Rebel Moon. I mean, me and you, Chris, if we weren't doing this show, best case scenario, I would have started it and then never finished it because it was so bad or I just never would have watched it to begin with.

So we had ulterior motives to even finish it, right? Yeah. So that's giving the benefit of the doubt there. But also at what interest level are people actually watching the movie? Right? When I was in theaters watching Barbie, I was front and center. Luckily no distractions in my theater, ingesting the whole narrative of of the film, all of the performances. Right. What is everybody doing on their couch at home in front of Netflix? They're looking at their phone like every like 2 seconds.

Right. And they're checking notifications, right? You're not ingratiating a fan base the same. So even if we give you all of those viewers, I mean, how many of them are really going to go to bat for you and the future of your franchise? So like it like and you have here your final note. Yeah. That both of them, you know, both praised Barbie. So this is very similar to the Batman conversation we were just having. I don't believe there is Snyder is doing slights on anyone right.

He is just out here just trying to prove to himself that he's not being a failure at all of these narratives that he's creating like he has to find a way to compare himself to something more critically or, you know, financially successful because he can't make anything good anymore. Like, I don't know what he needs to do. I mean, step one, he just needs to direct something that he didn't write. That is the first thing he needs to do.

And he needs to find a creative producer, somebody that just won't let him do whatever he wants. If he ever has a chance of making anything that people are actually going to universally enjoy. And I don't think that's ever going to happen because if he's going well on a podcast like this and doing all of these mental gymnastics to prove to himself that he's still doing good, like. Well, I wouldn't say. He has not a lot of hope here, I think. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know if he's doing it or I don't know. I don't I don't know the guy you know. But I do think it is hard to say the things I can't believe the things he says. I can't endorse the things he produces. And also I pulled up, by the way, just just because I was I was curious and I pull up earlier it's a streaming model is to viewing like like you mentioned apples oranges even wrote that down here. And then I was looking up the top 20 most watched films of 2023 on streaming in the U.S..

Okay, We're just going to go off U.S. because we can say it's not even in the top 20. Make it leave the world behind, you people. The mother murder mystery two are all higher streaming on Netflix than than this movie did.

So I don't know again so again and I believe these numbers more than the unreleased Netflix viewing model right streaming numbers versus that there are some people out there probably watching red Notice on repeat just to say that, you know, eight people are watching this a day kind of deal in regards, you know, I, I just don't I can't agree with his math. I don't think if they put Rebel Moon in theaters, it would be Barbie level stuff. I mean you the fact this is this is your girl math.

You want your girl math like you your math. If you're already subscribing to Netflix and you watch a movie on there, guess what? It's free because you already have a subscription, right? You're not paying for that. How many movies do you watch a month on Netflix and how many those would you not watch in the theater? Because the price is not $10 a ticket. But let's be honest, When's the last time you paid $10 to go to see a movie like in theaters very long time ago?

Yeah. I mean, I don't even want to associate the term girl math of this because girl math. Item. Fun, right? Yeah. This there. There's no fun happening. Well, I'm just saying, if it was any movie and you're honest, if you have Disney Plus and you watch the marvels, guess what? It's free.

Yeah. And also, I think you're the the numbers that you brought up of those top 20 streaming movies is a great point, too, because we can certainly take that as you know, somewhat fact, right, Because those are those are like real hard numbers that can be backed up with data from Nielsen. Right. So if we take those as truth and gives Snider the benefit of the doubt that maybe he's the 21st movie, right? He's like this off the chart, right.

That just means that there are 20 more successful movies that year than his, like Science fiction magnum opus that he had total creative control and a huge budget for right for a streaming movie. So like you that's not even serving you well if you look at it that way, dude, of just like all of these other 20 movies and some of them are just kind of schlock that got into that top 20. So it's just like, Dude, you got to rethink your creative. You got to rethink your creative strategy.

Well. Not a good idea. Let me go and tell you, Super Mario is on the list twice because of its numbers on Peacock and the list numbers on Netflix. my God. That's how good that movie's doing, right? I mean, just, you know, since we've already talked about Guardians of Galaxy in here, Black Panther, Wakanda forever, it's on here. Avatar, The way of water, big streaming last year. So like, you know, they're their movies. These are movies that were in theaters.

And then they came out and then they had people watch them even more at home, right? That's tell us. that's a point. Those are all second viewings. Yeah. Like, I think leave the world behind. Maybe murder mystery. I think maybe the mother some of these are, you know initial but like a lot of these are second dipping, right, of like people who didn't pay to go watch. So add them on to their actual box office total

and see what you get at the end of that. So, yeah, I just it's hard again, I'm I'm not angry at Zack Snyder. I just he has he has essentially conflated himself with success. And there there is no reason for that. I think if you took a more humble approach to himself and his works, we probably get something good out of it. Right? Like, you know, be less and less is more at the end of the day.

But when you're out there doing this kind of stuff in a podcast that is known for poking the bear and being dramatic and, you know, making outrageous claims because they have quote unquote, hot takes Mike on it, you're bound to get something like this to pop up there. I mean, he can factually say he got us fired up. Yeah, we're talking about it. He's he's getting the listen, you know, he got listeners on the show. That's true for this. I mean, not many directors can say that. Yes.

The last thing I'll say, I don't have the notes here, but he did say I believe confirmed that the director's cuts of Rebel Moon part one two will come out at the same time rather than a double release. Again, I think they're going to wait for them, both them, and put them both out there, which would be nice if, you know, we revisit them in those director's cut formats to not have to wait and forget about a movie for six months at a time.

So we'll keep you guys posted as more quote unquote news comes out of the situation for us. Superman as filming. And one of the things that was brought up is that the first scenes are being filmed in Svalbard, Norway, which is a stand in for an ice fortress location. So that's where they're filming first. that's what I was just about to say. So that might explain a little bit of the snow on the suit photo that was released holding out for for frost breath still now.

Hey, I'm not against you. I think. I think give them the frost breath. But I think, you know, Fortress of Solitude. Ice. Fortress. That's nice. They only touch Correct me if I'm wrong. They only touched on that briefly in Man of Steel. Right. Like when he went back and found the thing. And then I think they dug it out in Batman v Superman when they brought it into town to make Doomsday. So it would be nice to actually have a nice ice fortress that's more than just a one time location for him.

So hopefully we get some of that in the Superman movie from James Gunn. All right. So this is going to be a gamble here, Mike. I've got leaked images from Batman Caped Crusader, the animated series that Amazon picked up. And I don't know if these links work because the Amazon is taking them down.

So the first one we have our first designs from this and they're from obviously Amazon Research, so they're showing off of screenshots along the way and it kind of confirms a couple of things here and what you can see briefly in these shots, Mike, that the design is a cross between Batman, the Animated series and Batman, the Brave and Bold here when you take a look. Yeah, I was going to say I wasn't even really a watcher of Brave in the Bold, but you know, the style is recognizable enough.

Yeah. And I think we get even more so on our second link here. You know, not to cut you off in the villains that have been released, the villain designs are very much animated series to me more than the the Batman we're seeing. The the Renee Montoya in the middle. Yeah, that just feels like the perfect encapsulation of the Bruce Timm kind of character design. The catwoman's cool to see to the vintage Catwoman.

Yeah. So? So we've got six, seven, eight villains here, some redesigns that are obviously going to maybe spark controversy or discussions along the way. But to me it was an Italianate in the bottom left. It looked like a Bruce Timm character, like maybe like Batman beyond even in the eyes a little bit. But you can see here, you have to face not as scarred, not not as purposely on the face, like gently, a scarred, if you will, gentleman ghost I've never heard of before in my life.

Clayface is interesting. It looks like he has hair in the possibility melted looking face, if you will. A little bit Catwoman like you mentioned Purple Classic design with the Capes. Renee Montoya. Now the tail, you know, it looks like a Wednesday. Addams, if you will. Onomatopoeia I believe he he's been in some other promotional art but he reminds me of the spot if he was in Spider-Man two R And lastly the one I think that caused the most conversation is the Harley Quinn redesign.

And this is very much a gesture. Take on Harley Quinn, if you will. Yeah, I didn't even know it was Harley Quinn at first until I read the caption. I figured that was part of like the Royal Flush gang or something along those lines. That sounds like something the Powerpuff Girls like the Royal Flush. But anyway. This. This almost makes sense though. Like Harley Quinn originated from the in the animated series.

So kind of if you're returning to that world, it almost seems like, well, let's do something like fresh and different, you know, because this seems to be like a very not unique take on Batman I Batman's definitely gone noir before, but like, you know, if you're going to, you're going to do it different. I'm I'm basically what I'm saying is I'm okay with it. You know, I'm kind of curious what everything's going to look like in motion.

I keep looking back at, you know, the first image that we get to see of Batman. And I'm assuming that's Alfred. Yes. there with his very broad shoulders. I'm curious what the visual is going to look like, right? Because when I think of Batman, the Animated series as a kid growing up, it was it was a dark show, was mature, I believe if I remember right, they didn't even use like white Paper when they were doing like the character designs and backgrounds they were using like black paper.

And then they were basically adding light to it instead of adding dark to it. And that just like really broke through on the visual design always felt like way more mature, like even as you got older, it always felt like a show that like, your older sibling was supposed to be watching and you weren't still quite old enough. I know it's going to be impossible to recapture that feeling as well, right?

But like, you know, with these new ways that you can produce animation, it's it's almost easier to do like lighting effects and add like brightness to it. I almost want them to go the opposite direction and just keep making it that dark. That first image. If you look at the logo, right, that's where that is, right? It's a black image and they've added light to it to make Batman pop off of it. So I believe it. And obviously I see most of this and I can't really give a confirmation.

Is this like 1930s, like 1940s era like supposed to be set or like a faux twenties and thirties era. I feel like they'll, I feel like they'll kind of do what they did with the original animated series of just like they kind of keep it nebulous, you know, it seems like, if you're going to tell like maybe a story that's related to maybe technology in a way, just write it in a way where maybe we don't have to include like a smartphone, you know, So it can kind of be almost timeless.

In a way, because if you look at these, like they're wearing suits and like, you know, different design, like there's no modern, you know, look to these characters. And if you look at Batman and the butler here, Alfred. ALFRED Yeah. Like, you know, there's nothing giving away that scene. This is a modern suit even, right? It looks like a very gray suit with a very small Batman logo on it. Like a kind of like the sixties Batman, if you will. Right. That little logo in the middle.

So it looks like they're they're really borrowing the animated series, like, hey, we're not seeing this a certain time, but they are leaning possibly into you mentioned noir twenties throws noir pretty heavily on this stuff. But these are very real images because Amazon, who is, you know, releasing this producers have been hitting the accounts who've been shooting this with DMCA takedowns.

That's why I was worried about the just really curious, even though I went through a lot of different ways to get them along the way. So get a look where you can because there are some other cleaner images. But those were taken down like right away and once they're taken down, they're hard to get those high res images back again. So, I'm excited for this.

I like to see an action like a trailer, but, you know, Amazon's been doing great stuff with their animated work lately, so we'll see, you know, when it comes out, what we'll get out of it. Spider man. Spider man does whatever spider can, including swing back in the theaters. Mike has been waiting to use that one. Sony is releasing all Spider-Man movies, live action from Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland's into theaters again this year on a weekly basis starting in April.

So if you want to go relive the, you know, 2000, early, late, you know, the two tens, all of the movies are hearing from Spider-Man, Spider-Man two, three, amazing Spider-Man two, Homecoming Far from Home and No Way Home. And the release dates are in here. No rumors to be a bit of a it seems to be a bit of a theme this year. I mean, we started off the year with the those pandemic direct Disney plus Pixar movies hitting theaters. Now, these Spider-Man's are being rereleased.

I mean, I know this this this isn't new. They do this before, but it's interesting to see more of a theme being built out around it now. Like this is like a big this is a big marketing event because we can market all of the Spider-Man movies are coming back and you know, all of these Pixar movies, it's not just kind of like one off rerelease of just like, let's get Avatar back on the top of the box office again because a couple more mil to get it back up there.

And it's not a Fathom events where it's like, Hey, do you want to see the silent film The Mask of Zorro Again in theaters kind of thing? So, yeah, absolutely. There are no plans for Spider-verse movies at this time, sadly, But I think that's fine. Honestly, I would love to see Spider-Man two again in theaters if I could like look at this list and be like, I would love to go revisit. Watching the Spider-Man one or two in the theaters just just to do it again because it's been so long.

Right. I'm curious, too. I'm not saying this is the reason why they're doing this, but I'm sure there's some sort of finance department, some sort of producers that are that are going to be paying close attention to the numbers for The Amazing Spider-Man. Right. Because Andrew Garfield's like portrayal of Spider-Man kind of turned into like a meme over the last couple of years of people like putting on three pairs of rose colored glasses.

I don't know how many it takes to make that movie good, but people seem to be tricking themselves that those were good. The the first one is not bad. I will I will give them the first one. That second one can never exist. I'd be happy person and I'm not usually that negative, but that movie is just a waste of time. You I feel. I feel like, you know, after Madam web it's going to be like, we're Sony.

We're still going to be making crazy Spider-Man movies, whether you like it or not, because we don't want to lose the license. But they're probably going to be a little bit more judicious about it. So maybe they're going to need some numbers to back up if they're going to bring Garfield. I Disagree?

I don't think I don't think you can you can tell them right from wrong and those they won't listen to you either way, Mike, because we are still getting creative and we are still getting, you know, Venom three is fine. I understand. Venom three they got two, they can do three, but we're still going to get Kraven this year and it's going to be even worse, right? Because he has a magic animal blood in him. We've seen the trailer. They can't trick us anymore.

We you know what's happening but I think this is is and meds underperforming the box office right it's it's a it's a tragedy there are laughing stock how do we get more money in our pockets without extra work. This is how you do it. You do a limited time theatrical release for some of these movies and you just get more money in your pockets. At the end of the day, I don't I don't think they're smart enough to have any, you know, numbers or stats behind it to think about the future.

They're just going to make whatever Avi Aaron says he wants to make because, you know, he has like what had producer rights or whatever over there. So to me, it's just a money thing. It's like, why the feint, like the Phantom Menace we talked about a couple of weeks ago coming on his birthday this year. I'm like, Yeah, I'll watch it. I don't care.

In the 25th anniversary to watch The Phantom Menace, cause I'd like to go watch it in theaters, but I don't think there's ulterior motives for it for that along the way. But, you know, maybe it's just my naivete. But again, I think if I was to pick one of these, Mike, obviously Spider-Man one or two, is there any of them that you would like to see in theaters if you were like, Hey, we got a free ticket for you, You can go to any one of these. We have one.

Honestly, probably Spider-Man two. Yeah. You know, the the Tom Holland ones are great, but they're just fresher in my brain. A little less necessary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember watching those movies. Right In the other ones, I'm like, I do. I remember. So. So. Absolutely, so cool. All right, well, we'll keep everyone. I mean, you can go take a look if I go any amount you guys now, but I'm excited to see what that is. Even though at least they're not doing venom at the end of this.

Maybe, you know, hey, we're going to do a venom take off in a morbius watch party. But either way. All right, So we're going to jump into we've got two separate topics of this. The first one is Marvel, and that's the Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Moonlight are both getting Steelbook 4k Steelbook releases at the end of April, and this includes extra featurettes, deleted scenes and other things that you would expect to find out, at least not just the episodes.

And this follows the previous release of Wandavision and Loki, which got those as well. So to me this is another grab to make up money for things that they lost money on streaming early on, right? Wasn't it just well, didn't we just report that Disney is moving all physical media production through Sony? Yeah, they're handling like the refactoring. Of all. That. Well, they're handling the non collectible versions. This would be considered a collectible version. So. Yeah. Okay. Got to wait.

Like maybe like whenever Avatar comes out or you'll remember after Sony will handle all the production and stuff. Like that, just frees up whatever department works on these collectible stuff. You know, maybe they can be a little bit more focused in the future, but I don't know. Chris. Chris, I going to ask you a real question here. Yes, I'm pre-ordering. This is going to cut to the heart of your call.

You collect all these right. And I, I appreciate the Completionist side and I'm sure even I would get satisfaction out of looking at the shelf of all this deal books because I don't think I've ever seen them all collected in one spot before. But are you still taking them out of the case and watching them off of the disk? That's a that's a that's a that's a fun question. TV shows. Like this is hostile. Though.

Not really, because I would say when I watched Dune part one, I watched the DVD of Dune. I didn't watch distribution of Dune TV shows. A little harder to get into because you just want to I just want you know, I'll be honest, I'm not revisiting a lot of the Marvel stuff. You know, if I'm going to be completely transparent, it's hard to. But the movies I do, I if I have the 4K version, I will put it in my Blu ray player and watch it with my with my home set up the way I have it.

I mean, that's, that's a that, I mean, that's a fair argument there because you have a nice set up. You have a projector, you have all of the, the Dolby atmos that you could possibly. Yeah. To relive a theatergoing experience. I get that straight off the disc. Yeah. A regular person. I don't expect them to have this kind of thing. Like, you know, if you're a huge fan of Falcon or Soldier or maybe Moon Knight, you're like, I really want to win Moonlight. Really enjoyed it.

This is this is great for you. Then added in there, I don't think Disney Plus is not the the since Disney owns this Disney plus is not the place that will take this off line right. I don't expect the Falcon Winter Soldier or moonlight to disappear from Disney plus in any given time so that this is not a fear for for for those. But you know, I do I do enjoy having the steelbook sets for all these.

But like the movies, I will absolutely guide the TV shows kind of hit or miss if I'm going to be honest for some of that stuff. It's just you can only fit, I think. What is it, two episodes, a disc maybe, or maybe three, depending how long they. Right. So, you know, you're still swapping disk if you ever want to sit down and watch a lot of the series in a row for that.

But again, I'm excited to see you know, I think the thing about Marvel, whether you like these shows or not, I know you're not a fan of Sacramento to make the artwork, the designs for everything still pretty solid in everything they do, I think. Yeah, they really lean into the symbolism and the color palettes and suffer each series and movie. And I'm I'm excited for her for that.

So I'm more impressed at the quick turnaround for these if I'm going to be completely honest when they say we're going to do this and then, you know, the preorders on the 12th, which is or 11th and, 12th, which is this week, and then to be able to have it within two months, that that's the impressive part to me. Mike at the end of the day. So we got some more of these later we'll talk about, but we'll jump into Marvel Zombies real fast. This is an update of Moon Knight in the animated series.

Marvel Zombies will apparently be Blade with Conscious Empowerment, which is backing up that Mahershala Ali rumor we had earlier this year that he will voice the character so I think it's pretty neat. Wait so moonlight you say is going to meet? No, no no. So so so so Moon Knight is someone who's been chosen. I can't you right? It's not necessarily a person. It's someone with the powers. So Blade will have Moon Knight's powers and be the Moon Knight in this show. Okay, I see what you're saying.

So not only will he be a badass with swords, fighting zombies and vampires, but he will also have Moon Knight's powers. No, I mean, it'd be kind of cool if they do. Maybe a fun character design of kind of mashing up. Maybe some of the the white kind of cloth garb and maybe cowl. Yeah, with blade, that'll be kind of cool. I'd be. I'd be interested to see the character. Yeah. Do anything unique. And what do we always say in innovation? They can make any powers that work in animation, right?

So, you know, giving him, you know, his is obviously daywalker powers and Moon Knight Powers would be really cool to see in animated form along the way. Moving on, X-Men 97 had a fun little TV guide artwork release showing the release schedule episode titles for the upcoming show this week. So they showed the character models confirming that the premiere on March 20th is a two episode premiere, kicking this back off and doing weekly up until the season end in May.

So yeah, I mean, all you have to do is read these episode titles to go like, I don't think this is really for the kiddies anymore. I mean, Fire maid flesh tolerance is extinction. Life, death. Life, debt like that. I mean, yeah this they are they're doing what they should do where the audience was created back in 97 and we're all older now, so there's no reason to follow the same kind of standards and practices.

Yeah. And then on top of that, the fact that they're leaning into this nineties vibe, like with the TV guide, it's even got the little printed label sticker on the bottom and the old remote, right? Like they're just really having a good time with the designs and this and in the marketing material. So kudos to them and I'm excited to to get this thing in this watch. And when it comes out in literally we can a week and a half to ten days so we call Deadpool and Wolverine.

I about wrote this is Deadpool three might be so I forgot we had a title that came out this role Vinnie Jones, as you may remember, who played the juggernaut in X-Men three because he's the juggernaut bitch. I couldn't his team couldn't strike a deal to return for the movie as Juggernaut in Deadpool Wolverine. And mostly he says it because, you know, the practical suit he wore an X-Men was a physical toll on him. So which.

Is which is interesting because you know if you look at the suit, I wouldn't necessarily say there's I mean, I guess it's I is different in the beholder or if you will, But I would imagine you could take those maybe concerns to the costume department and maybe they'd have some, you know. Some update. Upgraded techniques. But it seems like if they couldn't come to agreement, it's probably more about money, right? Yeah.

Time to the Deadpool team is probably looking at these as, like maybe cheap fun cameos if you want to, like, come to set for like a day or two and, you know, be in a big summer movie, Blockbuster Reprise your character where maybe some of the other people are thinking like, you need me to really sell this cameo. So we want the big bucks. And well, it's funny. There's a disparage, there's a desperate is there between.

Yeah, well, I would say it's also funny we've already had the juggernaut since him that was all CGI and Deadpool two, so not necessarily. I mean I think I like Vinnie Jones. I think he's funny. I think he you know, he's he's always a great part of the movie season and said that he's out there. But you know again he's older, right? Like, you know, this 20 years later making this maybe maybe it is like and I didn't have a good time making that last one. So I don't want to do another one.

So yeah, it seems like it seems like it's pretty clear that they are trying to bring in the Fox X-Men universe into one movie because we really haven't seen a whole lot of cameo news and rumors for anything like MCU related, you know, kind of outside of like the TVA explicitly, which we're not even even seeing any familiar characters from Loki. We're just seeing the institution of the TVA. So I think that's a good idea.

And I you've brought it up before that, like maybe it's Deadpool kills the X-Men, Fox Universe or something like that. Yeah, that seems poetic. Yeah. And like, they have like the 20th century sign. They're right in the commercial, right in the the Void land or whatever and everything else. So, you know, it's, it's supposed to be a send off at the end of the day, whether he kills them or they just don't make it supposed to be a send off.

So sad that everyone can come back but I think that leaves some surprises for us still along the way with without that Star Wars, this isn't over. In a group chat earlier this week from Jason, we talked about the show and he's very excited. We had a conversation about this and I'm going to poison this. The question for you here, because we had our first hot toys like Balan skull from Ahsoka and obviously a standout character in Asoka, right?

Like if you were to like, you know, talk about the character, like, yeah, I remember Ray Stevens character in in this race, even Stevenson I don't remember. I have to look this up. But he did it. He did a great job, obviously, right? Like, you know, his light saber like you mentioned, you always remember when he blasted that little little orb with his light saber kind of thing, like he did a great. So we got a cool, hot toys here. yeah, I'm pretty sure Jason's going to get it.

He's got some cool actions, cool poses. The question was that was posed to us is if they recast him in season two, do you buy the second hot toy or what? What prompts you to buy the second? Hart toy? Yeah. Swappable Head. Yeah. So you don't you they don't even make another figure. They just sell a new pad that you can swap out.

I mean, yeah, I mean if, if this, if this topic in the podcast is just to like revisit the character you know, from Asoka, I mean really the only thing that stood out to me as extra special and that show was his character. But the question I have is how big and thick does a beard have to be on a hot toy or a sideshow collectible before you use like kind of like fake, like strands of hair, right?

Because there are a few there are a few, like hot toys or like high end figures that I've seen in the past where they're kind of using like, like fake flowy hair, like something you can actually touch and comb, if you will. Just curious if they've ever done that with beards. I don't think I don't. Beard was so well crafted. I don't think hot toys is that I think that's maybe more of the higher end ones the sideshow collectibles rather than the hot toys. Same same thing.

This is more of the you know, the I guess the the smaller ones. So possibly they could use that. back to the to the answer the question I posed to you since since you don't have one. We did discuss that if we were to buy a second one simply because Stevenson's great character is, it would have to be a very drastic costume change in person to buy the second one. because obviously if they just, if they made a swappable head, that's not really worth it. And at the end of the day.

But yeah, if you, if what you say, if you click through here on hot toys collectible, if you scroll down on the Instagram you get to see all the other toys. They have some one piece ones, which it would be interesting to see. stretchy, goofy, right? You know, there's Wanda Gore, Evil Spider-Man and stuff like that. So toys are just coming in hot. They're they're they're always great. And I sent you over the shot of Scarlet Witch that has even featured in the detail as wall hair.

So what I'm saying is, I want to see that as a beard somewhere, like I want a bearded character. So if you know of any if anybody knows of any like like I say, like a Gandalf out there or something where they're using like woolen hair for his beard, I don't want it, but I just think it'd be cool to see. Yeah, Yeah. Okay. The Barbie's for boys, you know, shape his beard however you want to be. To comb his little beard. That's right.

I mean, I know you don't have one, Mike, but you got to take care of these things as a beard over there. Their daily maintenance along the way, too, to wrap up Star Wars real fast. The Kenobi show, I think it's officially called Obi-Wan Kenobi, is getting a Steelbook release well, on April 30th. But this confirmed also, it says get the entire series on this, confirming that what Lucasfilm has always said, that this was a one off show. People like we want a sequel.

We want to see. Well, of course, we all love to see. Ewan McGregor returns Obi-Wan Kenobi, but they've always said that this was a one off show and this verbiage doesn't change that They could do a second series, but like has confirmed that, hey, we are not essentially working on the second one here along the way. I mean, that doesn't fully rule out my kind of fan wish of having Ewan McGregor pop up just very briefly in like and or season two.

yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Because season two, like, they're supposed to be like time jumps like every couple episodes or something until you're caught up to the Rogue One film. So if he was just in like one like special episode or something, that would just be, Ooh, that'd be so cool. Yeah. No, I think that, yeah. And they kind of set him up to do a journey so they can literally put them anywhere they want it to.

Before this does reinforce the that that fan at it that's out there where it took the whole series and boil it down to like a feature film runtime. I've yet to watch it even though Chris you have supplied it to me. Yes, I do want to watch it at some point in time, but it's hard. It's hard to justify watching like an experiment when there's a thousand. I did. I did watch.

When Topher Grace edited, I believe it was Spider-Man three down to two, where it was supposed to be like a his edit of it was actually pretty good. It was like an hour and a half, actually. Pretty good. Spider-Man three Edit So sometimes those things come out pretty well at the end of the day. But on the flip side, this is the one I think you would probably be interested in making this andor season one releasing the physical 4K Blu ray Steelbook on April 30th as well.

Because ever use the discs? No. But would it look cool on a shelf. Possible and or is again one of those shows that again we we admit we we channel over it for years and then we were like damn is a good show now we can't wait for season two. So it's just one of things like, do you do we make up for it by giving them some money? Like, Yes, and or take our money, make more stuff like this, like confirming to Disney. Like we're saying.

Take our money because we want you to see where the good stuff is kind of deal because, you know, on streaming, of course, they see the numbers, they see all that fun stuff. But that doesn't mean, you know, that it's numbers can be conflated any way you want them to, as we talked about earlier in the show. But I don't think I'm buying the Star Wars stuff. I don't even know if I have it. I don't know if I have rise of Skywalker even in my

my set of Star Wars movies alone. So, but Andor would be the one I would probably lean into if I did that. Like it like, imagine like an Andor complete series slash Rogue One book together. Like all of those in one collection would be pretty sweet, so. That would be a fun little fun little collection. Well, like, if I'm starting to craft my future Star Wars watch for for my child down the road.

Yeah. Like, hey, I think our original trilogy and like, if they want to see some fancier effects, you know, we throw in, we throw in Andor once they hit the hit the right age, see their characters that they ingratiated with explode on a planet. Yeah, but yeah, I mean that is like, that is a solid pocket of Star Wars. But don't tell. Them Rogue. One. Don't tell them about Rogue one. Like let them, let them let them get destroyed at the end of that movie after they watch the journey to get there.

So worried their sacrifice in vain. That's right. You got to see all all the way through there. So. Absolutely. So that's that's coming out next week. Our preorders start this week as well. Lastly, this news is not for you. I share this with you. You didn't take well to it. So this news is not for you. This is for everyone else. My Avatar, The Last Airbender, Netflix. The series has been renewed for season two and three to tell the books of Earth and Fire.

It is running number one on the streaming charts, I think since it debuted for a few weeks still, you know, obviously didn't convert to a lover. And even though I'm not very now out there, Mike, you, you've got something to say because obviously you're a fan of the original the sword meat live up to your expectations. But for the people who are experiencing this for the first time, we're having a good time. I'm not here to tell you, you know, you can't have a good time. I'm happy.

Netflix actually renewed confirmed two more seasons rather than saying we're going to do one more and then possibly canceling before they even tell the whole story. At least they're giving the creators enough time to tell the story. The show like the whole thing. Yeah, they are very lucky in a sense of this particular story. And Avatar has a very definitive ending and the original animated series was told in three seasons. So you can tell an entire narrative.

And then Netflix will finally feels like for the first time in a long time, have one standalone story that can live on its platform, right. You know something that people they can go back to and not worry about this, It's canceled. And if they should commit any time to it.

This gives me also some some stranger Things vibes because that's supposed to be the first show that they the original show they the only thing and I know Avatar is an adaptation show but like how badly have the actors aged up from Stranger Things Mike From when it started to what the final season's going to be? Right? It's been like ten years or something.

Those kids are just so so to keep the avatar people about the same age, let's just go ahead and film two and three you know, in a row here or as close as we can to keep the actors the same age. Yeah. And also, they're lucky that, you know, it's with it's within three seasons that they don't have to worry about contract renegotiations in the middle of this.

I'm sure season two and season three might not necessarily be filmed in conjunction, but I'm sure close is going to be thinking about, you know, completing the whole story when they're, you know, maybe developing like costumes and sets and locations for the location. Scout is like, this will be good for, you know, season three when we go here or whatever. Yeah. Even when they're working on season two.

I mean, after we talked about you after we talked about the first three episodes of the live action series on the show a couple of weeks ago, you know, just out of curiosity, you know, since it's been so long, you know, I want to go back and rewatch the the first episode of the The Last Airbender, you know, animated, which to Netflix's credit, is on Netflix, didn't have to hunt it down anywhere else.

I didn't have to, like, subscribe to like, you know, Paramount Plus or whatever to go watch the the original version of Avatar. So really that's a rarity in the world today. Yeah, they're centralizing over there with Avatar and it's just like, I mean, I have strong nostalgia for, the animated series, but the characterizations, the storytelling, everything is so much tighter and cleaner and more enjoyable. Like, I just no joy out of those three episodes.

I mean, like Sokka is like, barely funny in the live action one. And I've seen some like social media, Netflix like clips where they put a lot of Serkis like one liners or whatever from the live action into like a package and I watched it. I was like, None of these even come close to being as funny as he is in the cartoon. So it's just like, I don't get any joy watching it.

So we tried to compare this a lot to the one piece review and we said, you know, we can't be the best critics because we never really watched one piece, but we enjoyed it. So I suppose there's versions of us like that out there. We never watched the animated version and can look at this as its own standalone thing, but I am unfortunately poisoned by the original. That is just so good critics.

Fans love it so much that like over a decade later, millions upon, millions of dollars can be dumped into it, should be turned into live action. And that's how good it is. So unfortunately, the magic trick didn't work on me. You told me that you think with more time maybe they can learn, get. Get the feed. Well, listen to the feedback. Right. Like, I don't think the scripts are set in stone first.

I don't think Netflix that foresight to be like, Hey, let's go ahead and go ahead and get this work on the other ones. I don't think they have that. So I think they'll be able to work on that a little bit more with that feedback. Now I will say there is I do have curiosity here of how some things are going to translate to live action. I would like to tune in for season to just an episode to see how they're going to execute top character.

Toph is one of the most important parts of the Avatar universe. Even her legacy when it comes into legend of Korra and we haven't even seen that character yet, you know, I'd love to see how like the the The Big Earth Kingdom looks in season to passing. So yeah. There is no war in boxing. So I talked about the do that has the laser beam in his forehead. There's things that I'm curious to see how it translates are they going to do that?

You know, the third season has an iconic episode of where the characters go to see a play about themselves and kind of see how they're characterized by the Fire Nation. I'd love to kind of see maybe if they end up doing that. And then also the final episode, the season's thing, where you know, when, you know, Ang is, you know, doing his final battle, that might be kind of fun to see how it translates.

But like I there's no way I'm committing to completing the whole series, but I will dip in just to see how things look. Then I'm going to dip right back out. Well, you're already paying for Netflix, so it's free. That's you know that that's like at least five tickets in the movie theater if he were. Yeah. yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's already doing that. Yeah. I was like, you know, being being reviewed for this.

I've listened to some other people, you know, of our age and they were, you know, they were more like you who grew up on a watch. You like their sound like, you know, the show's just as it have they kind of Russia they they they they tell you they don't show you a lot of things along the way which we talked about. But one of them was like he was watching and this kid walked in, in the middle of like season one. And he's like, what's that seems like, well.

TAVERNISE Like kind of what she's like, Yeah, sure. And like, the kids was like, glued to the show. So if this is like, you know, not not seeing like this is they can like the animated one too, but like kids are going to like this. Like if this is their first, you know, interaction with Avatar, they don't know better, but then they'll see this and then see something even better later, Right.

If they get to the animation second. So it's still think it can be a good first dose, if you will, of Avatar. If you're if you're out of it, it's not the worst thing in the world. It's not Madame Web of of adaptations. This isn't dragonball evolution even of anime adaptations. So I think there are things that people can enjoy or at least not understand, who like younger people, youth who are getting into it. That's that's fine. So I'm not as down on as you are.

I just don't as don't care enough. Right. I don't have those member berries or feels for it along the way But, but that's fine. That is, that's, that's the show for this week. Mike. We made it. We done it. We, we've, we've used our extra or less than an hour to still find a way to put a show in to today. And and that's why I appreciate it's about you. But if people will know what you're up to, what you're doing, where can they find the buddy? Yeah, they can find my web.

That life rewards risk and pickled comics dot com. Chris, people want to catch up with you. Where can they find you? Find me on Instagram Fall down 87 field day in seven or video game systems of the same name. They don't have user profiles for Atari. Mike I can't I can't get my my online Atari go on. It's having never played it. I know the people that know about the show, what we're doing, we can tune in every week or subscribe. We're going to get out of that.

You know, head on over to any of our social media pages. Superhero Slate podcast on Instagram. Superhero Slate. I think on the other platforms that we have, Chris, have been putting together these awesome kind of like clips of our show. So if there is a particular part and any episode that you liked, you know, there's a good chance that Chris has probably clipped the best parts.

So if you really like the show and you really want to share it with people and, you know, sending an entire hour of audio to a to somebody that's never heard of us before might be a little intimidating. I think these clips are really, really great way for people to understand the show that we've been doing now for 465 plus episodes for. In 65 news episodes. Those include review episodes. Yeah. Exactly. So that would be great.

Chris would love to see I mean, he's he's sent me the screenshots of the analytics all the time and it really gets us jazz. So we haven't plugged the social channels in a while because we just really weren't sure what we wanted to do with them. Like it kind of seemed pointless just to like, do like, just like a post for like, new episode up, you know? Yeah, very exciting. Yeah, we have been working really hard.

We found that we found a way to, to automate a lot of that and then add some flourishes in there. So that's helped our workflow a little bit better. I mean, people talk about AI is helping me through and without it I would not be able to do all the work I do now that it's taking over. What I'm doing is just helping me get there faster. But yeah, absolutely.

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