Fallout Season 1 & Rebel Moon 2 Reviews, Red Hulk CONFIRMED, Superman's Parents Cash, and more!

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Superhero Slate, the show where we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV, movies and superheroes. So let's talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name's Mike. And this week we're reviewing Rebel Moon Part two. The Scar Giver. Ooh, I know that seems like there's enthusiasm behind there, but it just sounds like you have a knife to my throat and you want my wallet. Okay, how about this?

How about we start off with reviewing fallout, on Amazon? How about that? Okay. That's better, that's better. Okay, cool. We'll talk a little bit. I've not seen the whole season. Mike. I assume you have at this point, but, we'll talk about fallout, here at the start of the show. the Red Hulk. Mike is confirmed. I know you're worried about this, you know, being confirmed, but it's Sue McDonald's toys, which is the weird part for me. So we'll we'll talk about what that means.

Superman has recently cast its ma and PA Kent. well, I'll see if you even know who these actors are. Mike. That's the fun part. And more. I'm usually good at noticing, like, faces, but I'm sure once you say the names, I won't recognize them. But I do have to say, at the top of the show, I am in, different environment around different creatures. This week, the wife and I are house slash dog sitting this weekend, so I am in an unfamiliar room with an unfamiliar clear animal.

Well, I mean, I'm familiar with the animal. my. But my wife is. My wife is working a gig right now, so it's just me in this dog. And I don't know anything about dogs. I didn't grow up with dogs. I, have a very traumatic, slumber party I went to as a child where I was swarmed by Corgi puppies. And that's when I learned I was very allergic to dogs. That sounds traumatic. Was it the traumatic? Was that the traumatic part of the allergy or the. The allergy of the puppies was amazing and adorable.

okay. I still remember looking at all of them and like, oh yes, please crawl all over me, I love it. And then later in the night, I had to go to the the the adult supervisor and be like, it's hard to breathe. And then they're like, okay, I'm going to call your parents. so essentially before my, wife, like, left for the day, I literally had to ask her. I was like, how often do dogs have to go outside? How often do they use the bathroom? I don't know the the little machinations about dogs.

So I've learned a little bit over the past couple days and I'm. Like, are you going to apply this to. Like. Your future, like fatherhood here? And like, you know, several. Months, I guess. I mean, I'm learning how to, to water and feed something from a bowl on the floor. But I'm looking around right now just to kind of get my bearings. Sometimes the dog is underneath me, sometimes the dog's behind me. I have I have gone out of my way.

There's two squeaky balls in this house, and I have found one of them, and I put it up high on a stool. So there is a non-zero chance that we could be in the middle of recording this podcast. And this dog walks in with a squeaky purple ball and everyone's gonna hear it. So you tell, you tell me I have three cats. At any point they come yell at me. So like it's part of it, right? And if there is going on, if there is a whiff of another canine on the sidewalk outside this dog will bark as well.

So I can't do anything about it. I can't control this creature I am at. I am in it's home. I am the intruder that feeds it. So just a heads up, a little bit of, a little bit of detail, a little bit of seasoning for the for the podcast this week. Very exciting. Well, I was also going to say I thought you were literally talking about our new background on YouTube that we have going on right now. because, I, I got a creative, inspiration watching some of the Deadpool trailer.

Mike, you took that and applied your artwork to it. And we have a new background that we're playing with on our video. So if you've not, gone over to Superhero Slate on YouTube and liked and subscribe to our channel, you, have a chance to check that out because I think it's fun. we're having a good time learning this and using our podcast as a, I guess, a creative tool first. Yeah, the the TVA is a vibe. I would love to them.

Yeah. Create some sort of like pop up at like a Comic-Con where you could, like, walk into, like a TVA, like even like cubicle. I would take even a small cubicle that has like the old vintage, like computer typewriters at it and like maybe some sort of like, hologram of Miss Minutes or something in the corner, and then, like, I get to pull up in a drawer and it's just like a bunch of, like, Infinity stones, you know?

Well, what's crazy about this is the vibe of the TVA is very much like the vibe of fallout, which we're going to be talking about here in a little bit. Oh yeah, it's like. It's century modern. Like, yeah, 19. What if everything's retro futurism? Yeah. Which also I think is kind of the vibe what we've talked about fantastic for taking as well, with some of their stuff. So like that's a, it's a huge vibe across everything right now

which is, which is great. But I don't I don't want to get into that first. But I do want to say thank you, Mike, for making a new background. And then we're just having some fun with it. So anyone who wants to come and check out our video do that. but, Mike, you you've been you've been, quote unquote trapped, if you will, inside somebody else's home for a few days. And you look like you got to catch up on a TV show. that just wrapped up season two. yeah, I've had some I've had some time to kill.

So I did wrap up watching season two of invincible, and I think I did it the right way of I know that there was like a break. There was like a part one and part two. I couldn't even tell you where that happens in the season, because I was able to just kind of watch it continuously over a couple of weeks. And I always forget how good this show is, and it just always impresses me every time I sit down and watch it.

one thing that I think is great, and I don't know if you put, the praise on the writer and the comic books, you know, the source material or maybe even the show creator gets a little bit because they're bringing some of that flavor in.

But I love it when they just take a moment away from these big characters with these big powers, and they'll just focus on just a random character, like there's, there's, like an assistant to, like, I don't remember all the character's name, but there's like, this kind of, like, pencil pusher assistant that works for, like, the Nick Fury of this world. And like, there's, like a whole episode where you, like, go in and you look at, like, the trauma he's gone through.

like fighting against, like evil, just being like a normal, like, human being. And then there's, like another person that's like recovering from, like an attack on, like a college campus. So it's always kind of fun that they can take a moment. And, I Chris, you were already familiar with the scene that I had sent you because it was so meta and it was so funny. I'm sure it's already clipped a thousand times on, like, YouTube and TikTok and. Oh, you sure?

People have seen it already, but I just got to organically come across it. Where, where invincible, aka mark just goes to a Comic-Con and he's like talking to the creator of his favorite comic book, and they're just having this meta conversation of how long it takes to make an animated show. And the short cuts that you can do to save money on budget.

And they're executing all of those short cuts in the scene that you're watching, like the covering their mouths, and they're doing very wide shots so they don't have to animate anything is it was really, really funny. So if you go out on YouTube and you find that scene, you can totally watch that and it's totally out of context. It's not going to spoil anything at all because it is just this isolated moment that you could pretty much pull out of the episode and wouldn't change the story at all.

But it's really, really funny. But yeah, go watch Invincible season two. And I think just the other day they had, posted from one of their official social media accounts that they said season three is going to be coming faster than season two came. So that made me feel better because I just finished. They announced two and three at the same time, and I'm pretty sure they just announced also four and five of the show. I think it will end with five.

I think maybe they said are the least they've announced through season five. So, for those who may fear that this show may run its course in three seasons, it do do note that it is getting five seasons is my understanding. Yeah, this is great. I think there's a lot there's a lot that James Gunn could kind of take from this story, in this execution for his, interpretation of Superman in the world that he lives in.

Because invincible is a, an established world with heroes already, the audience and the environment already accepts that superheroes are a thing and they don't have to be explained. And the story is just about following somebody with powers and how they deal with it. And I think that's kind of a similar role that Dunn is going to be introducing in Superman. And also that aliens exist, right? It's not just there, they're aliens.

They're, you know, anything that you've seen in a superhero story, invincible, has Perry skewered it? Enhanced, if you will, in some one of those words is everything. So, I wouldn't say it's like gross or grotesque. Like, the boys were like, you know, it says superheroes exist. but it's just superheroes, and it's very science space. This is very much like, you know, like people are born with powers, or there's tech people or there's aliens and so on and so forth. I will say one of the other.

There are two other scenes I've seen in there at the end of the season, Mike. And that's why I was kind of hoping you'd get to. Is that the a voice actor by the name of? I think it's Josh Keaton voices someone named Spider Agent. Yes. There's a, invincible gets thrown briefly into, like, a multiversal world where there is a character that is essentially like Spider-Man animated, just like a spider man shoots web, just like a spider man is fighting an octopus style villain.

And then when the character spoke, I was like, oh, this sounds just like a murder man. They did a really good job, like casting somebody so they can say, this is a spider man. And then when I looked it up on IMDb, I was like, well, no, it this person was the interview. Is the animated version of Spider-Man, right? And we've we've talked about, you know, Marvel take after X-Men 97 wanted to do well, Josh Keaton is no stranger to voicing Spider-Man after all these years as well.

And then there was also, a scene about, joking about someone who is, like, dressed as a, a bat, if you will. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, so there's there's references to Spider-Man and Batman in this. But I will tell you, in the comic book, Spider-Man actually exists. so so there's no there's no spoilers here, if you will. They actually had a crossover with Spider-Man in the comic book, Mike, because the rights to transfer are much easier.

So that's that's a really fun thing for for them to be doing over there. I don't think that's a spoiler, because this is not essential to the plot of the of the show. It's just fun things along like I've seen those clips on YouTube or YouTube or shorts or whatever, more than probably the one you sent me about the, you know, hey, we're, you know, we're making or poking fun at, you know, cheapening animation. but but but I think it's really fun. So I can I can agree with Mike.

I'm not watch him until season two, but obviously the show is firing on all cylinders. but that's just part of Amazon. And we've talked about this before. Amazon is one of those streaming services that we forget exists until you turned it on. Right. Like, oh, I need to watch something. I don't go to Amazon Prime right away. It's not my go to streaming service. But they have great stuff. you know, we've talked about the boys, we've talked about, are you invincible?

I'm trying to think of anything else on Amazon. There are lots of things on Amazon that are good. and one of the things that has just launched, not this week, but two weeks ago, where we're we're behind a little bit, but that's fine. That's eight episodes of, fallout, the series based on the video game series of the same name made by Bethesda. And I would say it's not even bases actually exist in parallel in the same universe as the video games. Mike, which I think is.

Chris I, I, I feel like this is a great time for me to tell you. I feel like I've learned so much about fallout in the last two weeks, like the world in general. Because you've played some of these games, you'll understand the world that we're dealing with. You just watched the first episode before we started recording. I. I've watched them all already, so I feel like I've been thrown into like a brand new world. And at first, after I watched all eight episodes, no spoilers.

Obviously, we're not going to spoil anything for anybody out there. I was like, okay, this is interesting. They're working with a lot of, stuff here. But then that's when the algorithm started hitting me. That's when the show started popping off and hitting the general public. And even though I've never engaged with anything fallout before, I'm getting Fallout reels.

I'm getting fallout TikToks in my For You page, and I'm seeing people doing deep dives on other vault numbers and what experiments and unique situations have run with those vaults. And I was like, oh, this is where the world really takes off. This is where you get to use this like kind of device to tell all of these different stories.

So now I'm understanding how there's all of these different games that takes place at different parts of the, the world, and there's different stories that you tell in each of them. I don't know exactly how many games deal with how many different vaults, but it's cool to see that there's a mythology there.

So I almost appreciate that the show was made because it's introduced me to this franchise that I haven't really touched or played at all, but I do kind of feel a little wanting in a way of like, now I want to play some fallout, but I don't really know what to do because before this show came out, the only thing I knew about fallout was there was a game called New Vegas, which I assume must be one of the more popular installments in the series, because that's the one I immediately thought about.

So there's some sort of name recognition there? Well, it's just got a. Better name than a sequel name, like. Yeah, it's like, you know. Yeah. And then there's like, I think a newer one called 76 that nobody liked. or at least when it launched, nobody liked it. So I don't really know what to do with this kind of like, newfound interest of fallout. So let me let me go into I have played, enough out for you, Mike. Don't do do not stress. I will tell you where you want to start.

So my journey started in fallout three, which is essentially you. Have you played Skyrim or any Elder Scrolls game? Mike, of that. I played Skyrim for like five minutes when it came with like a bundle that I bought, but that's about it. Yeah. So so it's a Bethesda formula, right? You know, obviously there's there's the Elder Scrolls games, there's the fallout games. And obviously the new one, I forget the name. It's the one in space. I can't think of it off the top of my head here.

but so you you essentially outside my wife. That's because she was asking when we were watching episode one. In those games. You are a Vault dweller being locked out of the vault for the first time. So the opening of the games are usually in your vault, and then you go out into the world, and then you have to deal with everything out there. And that's when you uncover again, as you see the different factions, right? The mutants, the enclave, different different things out in the world.

The other vaults, other vault was. But like the what's beautiful about the fallout games. fallout three was then followed by Fallout New Vegas, which is essentially like Halo three was followed by Halo Reach, if you will. Right. Like, you know, you know, those games like the sequence, but like, fallout isn't about the end of the world. The end of the world already happened.

You're not saving the world at the end of the day, like you're just saving where you are in the country or world at that time. So fallout three, I think, is set in Massachusetts area, up in the up in the Bay. and then Fallout New Vegas, obviously in Vegas, fallout four, I forget where it is, but, you know, you were very much you come out your vault and just had that region to deal with. You're not saving the entire world.

The world is already gone and you're just trying to get by in those areas, which is really, really fun. fallout 76 was a game that yes, it did launch to, not good reception, but it is one of the few games that has come back and bounced back, if you will, like a game at launch, like, we don't like it, but now everyone's like, okay, they affix 76 to make it, but it's a different type of game.

Fallout three and four New Vegas, our first person shooter kind of games with RPG elements for your special stats if you will. Wink, wink. For those who have watched the show, and then fallout 76 is more like a survival crafting game with with multiplayer styled like that's where people like, oh, it's a different type of game, it's a different type of format.

So if you're not in, you know, crafting and survival type of multiplayer, like three New Vegas and four are up your alley, 76 is a little bit different, gameplay, but it doesn't mean, like, you know, there's not good quality stuff there, but, fallout is the games are really, really fun. I'm one episode in and I'm on board. I'm absolutely on board. this is, I think we've talked about this before, but one of the actors, Walton Goggins. Right. He is the actor who can make anything great.

Anything he's in great. even Ant-Man two. Mike, a man in the wasp. He is in it. He elevates his performance in that right? Like he he he knows what he's there for. Absolutely love it. I'm not I we're going to finish the season. We've just been I as people I said last week, I've traveled this week. I've had a pause my entire world to watch Rebel Moon Part two. but but, Fallout on Amazon. I'm excited to finish the season.

And with that, for those who are maybe on the fence, it is confirmed for a season two, so that's got to be good news all around. Mike. Yeah, there's a, there's a moment in the second episode. It's, set piece of kind of like Old West kind of gunslinger motif that happens in that second episode. When I was watching it, I leaned over to my wife and I go, like this show is expensive. that's what always is.

Getting me to watch these new Amazon Prime originals is just when I'm like, oh, wow, this cost a lot of money. So I that I feel like even if it's a show that I wouldn't normally watch, like I like the, Lord of the rings, one that came out, Rings of Power. Not like a super huge Lord of the rings nerd, but like, I want to see that money put the screen. fallout's. Definitely doing something pretty similar a lot of awesome sets.

You know, there's only so much things left over from the 1950s in, like, these, set warehouses, you know, in Hollywood or Atlanta. So you either have to, like, make brand new props, you know, or you have to like 3D, model the stuff and put it in a volume or whatever. Well, but. I would say some of the also has that futuristic like enhancement, like when you see felt like the 50s for that wears on like our street 50s but like the TVs have like that weird.

Like they're too thin for 1950 televisions. Right. They would had to beat way deeper kind of deal. And some of the you know, obviously in the first of this, you see it in the trailers and it's all off up like everyone has like their own personal robot in the 50s as well. Like, that takes care of their house. So it's definitely interesting to see, like how much of the 50s plus, like I guess to me is Tomorrowland from Disney World, right?

How much of that do they really implement in the games and the like? Carry over to the Warriors in the future when you emerge from the vaults? Yeah, it's like, what if the retro future that they predicted actually happened and then it got nuked is the kind of esthetic setup that I like. I mean, we won't talk too much about the story because they're only one episode. And when you end up finishing, it will come back around to it.

But I did see some kind of hot takes after the show came out that said, oh, this could have been better. Maybe if it was released. once a week or twice a week or sometimes Amazon's been known to drop three episodes a week. I don't know why they didn't go with that, strategy, but Chris, you're more than welcome to do that. And we can kind of tune back in here in a couple of weeks. Yeah. I'm curious. I'd be curious what you think about the story in the in the world and how it grows.

Absolutely. Yeah. I'm very intrigued. It's got some very mysteries. The mystery of the ghoul early on. Right. it's got me intrigued, obviously, because, you know, mutants in the wasteland, like, the people in the vault think no one thing's alive on the on the top land except, you know, mutated people or just, you know, savages. And while that is some true, like, there are parts of the world that did not get nukes that are safe, right?

And you get to see kind of that with the, the enclave and the, the big powered suits. Right. Like when you think of far, everyone thinks of the powered suits, the big mech suits and some of that stuff looked felt really good. There's an interrogation scene in the first episode where there's one like right behind, you know, one of the main characters, and you can just feel the weight, the terrifying ness of that big mechsuit and whoever's inside of it, in there, which is which was really fun.

Again, it looks great. It's, you know, it's got, the her dad, Carl McLaughlin. Right. He was in agents of Shield. He's known for Twin Peaks. He's a great actor. absolutely loving the. He's in there. There's a lot of familiar faces as well. I don't know if you got that vibe on or at least in episode one. there's a guy who tells Spider-Man to do a backflip. and he's like, I think in Shang-Chi, the guy who's filming on the bus.

yeah. It's personal. Boy Zach Cherry, he's also in, the first season of severance, I hope yeah, he returns for the second season. Yeah. So he's he's one of, like, the vault, I guess. Leaders. And then next to him, is Leslie Uggams, who plays Blind Alan. Deadpool. Oh, yeah. That's why she liked it. So, yeah, I was like, okay, I get, like, a lot of these people are familiar. it's been fun, but, like, I'm excited to watch more. I'm just. I feel horrible is taking too long.

But, like, even people I know who, like, don't like fallout are not familiar with far have been getting into fallout, playing the games and watching the show, watching the show again, even I'm like, this is great. This is one of those things. But one of these I guess, properties that you know, is risky to put out here, right? Like when you're adapting to an established property and people like, oh, am I going to like get am I going to hate it? And this come out on top?

I think that's pretty good. Like that's really good. And I would say honestly, as you mentioned, the weekly stuff, Rings of Power was weekly, if I remember correctly, when Amazon did it because, yeah, it was there was discussion every week. So, I'm sad that I don't, but maybe for season two, maybe they'll get better. They're like, hey, we'll, we'll we'll space this out a little bit because it just came off of, what loading or debuting inevitable. Like what?

What fallout game should I go play right now? Chris, if I wanted to jump into the world. you mentioned fallout three. Fallout New Vegas seems to be the popular one. I did a little bit of research, and it seems like this is one of those franchises that if I wanted to go back to, like the original, it's kind of like going back to the original Metal Gear, where you're on like a kind of more of a retro kind of console.

One and two are are not very, you know, people like, like them, but they're not like the ones that you're playing now. Like they don't have the when you go to shoot someone, you stop. And then you can aim at different body parts, right, and see different percentages of the damage. And you can like dismember people. I always say three three was where I started. Three's a good one. Four is also good for the modern ization of that very similar kind of kind of ideas, if you want to do.

Before I played four, I did not finish it. I get overwhelmed with those open world games a little bit. I'm like, I just don't know what to do. So I'm like, I'm not going to do anything. Put it down. but there's nothing to get some knock against fallout four. That's just how I, you know, take the game. So, I would say 3 or 4 New Vegas, I would say do three the new Vegas. If I were to say jump that in, simply because three is going to set the world that New Vegas is in, right?

You're going to understand the background before you jump in. New Vegas is new Vegas is essentially like what they would call an expansion game these days where you're like, okay, you finished three, now you're going to go to New Vegas kind of deal. I think that would help you, but I, I really enjoyed New Vegas as well. Three In New Vegas, I put a lot of time into back back in the college days of Xbox 360 era. So Yeah, it's not the time I'm on the PlayStation store right now.

It looks like fallout four is only $5 right now, which is that's incredibly affordable. Fallout 76 is eight bucks. fallout there are on sale right now because of the show. Yeah, but I'm not. Yeah, I'm not seeing fallout three or Fallout New Vegas, at least on this first page. I just would have assumed that they would have been right on the front aisle to do a little bit more research for me. Yeah. So I don't know, PlayStation. you have to now to get fallout three in New Vegas on PlayStation.

Okay. Yeah. Might be that might be worth it. That might be worth it. Yeah, I think I got a free trial. You could test it out for four. Is not bad if you if you know, for for five bucks. You said four was five bucks. Yeah. Something like that. Oh hell yeah. Get that, get do that. I think I think that's, that's pretty, pretty pretty standard stuff. so absolutely I'm excited. You know, it's got the three main cast. I'm excited to see how they all mix in the season to kind of go forward.

And where do season two take it? So, absolutely. On board for fallout jumping into the news. Let's get into some news. We'll do our, the long anticipated Rebel Moon Part two review at the end of the show for everybody, who's sticking around because we can talk spoilers about that, Superman. James Gunn has confirmed that actor Pruitt Taylor Vance, who was known for Constantine. I believe it's the movie and never how, who's actors from Lucky Logan have joined us.

Ma and PA Kent. so I don't know these people by their names. if I'm going to be, honest with you. Right. Just think. We going over this. I think we just. We just take this as a sign that, the progress of the movie is continuing. Well, and so don't worry about. I would I I'm actually going to go a little. I'm gonna say this is a better news because I don't give a flying rat's ass who Mom Pie King is in a Superman movie other than they're good actors, right?

Because if you remember in Mansfield, they got, Kevin Costner, to do it, right, and then nearly killed him off pretty soon. Like, if you had a higher named actor, they're going to over overshadow some of the movie. Right? And if this is a, not necessarily an origin movie, but a movie where superheroes already exist, we don't need to go back to Smallville and see raises a kid. There needs to be some some of that.

And and if you look at the photos of the this actor, you know, Vince, Pruitt and Nava, they're not like, they're they're Hollywood actors. They're not Hollywood pretty, if that makes sense. Like, you know, he's he's a he's a slightly, he looks a lot like kingpin, the actor who plays kingpin in the new Daredevil stuff. in some of his newer things, like they're they're a bit larger. The farm people, they look like farm people. I'm like, that's great. They don't need to be Hollywood.

Pretty people living on a farm, to raise Superman. Right? They just need to be a farmer and his wife, and they find this alien baby, and they raise him the right way. And I think that's the. To me, that's the important part of this. At the end of the day, I was looking up, stuff he was in, yeah, he's been in a lot of, TV shows. But if you look him up, there's a I think I want to say it's probably

Constantine where he's got, like, a hat on and a goatee, but, Yeah, everyone. In that movie is wearing a hat or a goatee, so it doesn't narrow it down much. That's your go to. Yeah, movie. But I get it. Yeah, well, you seem you think like. But that that that is, that is, that is some some casting. They're filming it. I think they're back filming that. Maybe they think you took a week off to do some a weekend or he's he's filming peacemaker on the weekends or something like that.

like this is going to be this is going to be interesting when all this comes coalesces together and all comes out. So we'll see you guys more, shifting into Sonic the Hedgehog gears, we have some confirmation. Keanu Reeves will voice shadow of the Hedgehog. Mike, they are just grabbing great actors to voice the villains in these movies. And honestly, it's it's it's pretty shocking.

I don't know if this is just, you know, you show up for a week in an ADR booth, and, you know, that's all you have to do, because this isn't one of those things where they're, like a motion capturing Keanu Reeves to make the perfect Shadow the Hedgehog. But, yeah, I don't know. I'm not like this in depth. Deep Sonic fan that has to like, oh, they have to nail these characters. They kind of almost need casting like this to get me invigorated, right?

Yeah. Well, but then then now they can put like they can put what, Idris Elba on the movie poster. They can put Keanu Reeves on the movie poster. I mean, like. Jim Carrey huge. You know. Yeah, that's, you know, Eggman. Jim Carrey, as we talked about last week, even the large, the carbon, the big one. But like that, I mean, Idris Elba even got his own spin off show he's doing, which is probably more than just a day or two in the yard booth. Obviously, he's not film.

they have models on set for filming this. They're not doing it. But like, you know, they're doing more like they're committed to the rules a little bit more. That doesn't feel like a cash in, if you will. Right. but his voice, I honestly, you know, we hear his voice. That's that's a dark voice. I'm like, oh, this is going to be cool. He's going to he's going to be able to really bring this character to life. for a Shadow the Hedgehog, a clone, if you will. I think he's a clone.

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know where. Sonic. It's a fun, fast paced game on Sega. so, Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool news that they're they're bringing that. I'm surprised they didn't announce it last week. If I'm going to be honest, at the, CinemaCon. Like, that's a that's a weird thing to wait till the next week to do. But yeah, maybe they're still pinning them down. Yeah, yeah, sign the contract.

But also last week they showed some, footage and a title card for Transformers one CinemaCon. And then this week, we as regular people get the trailer for this upcoming animated origin movie of, Optimus Prime. And I forget his original name and Megatron before they became those characters and became serious robots who have, like, you know, morals and stuff. This trailer just blew me away because I didn't expect it to be actually funny.

I was like, oh, they're going to be serious robots and stuff like that. And it's actually like, oh, this is just like a buddy comedy kind of thing with robots. Yeah. This is a weird experience for me because this is probably one of the many, instances where we've been recording this podcast for, close to 500 episodes now. So I'm sure in one of these, we had already talked about that this movie was a thing and it was being made and it was happening. but I forgot all the details.

So I was like, what is this Transformers one trailer? I just assumed it was going to be another, like straight to Netflix thing because I swear, like 90% of Transformers stuff is just Netflix originals, like it's an animated show or it's an animated movie or it's like an anime or something that no one's ever heard of before, and then they're slapping it on Netflix.

So when I went to click play, I didn't realize that this is like a feature film that's coming out in theaters, and the trailer opens up with, like Chris Hemsworth, like talking to the screen. I'm like, what is happening here? What's going on? So it is kind of strange because it feels like every new entry to the feature animated space has sort of some sort of, like, unique kind of quirk to the animation, right?

Like I'm thinking like Mutant Mayhem, the spider verses, or like Mitchells Versus the Machine, like some sort of like visual hook to it. And this one doesn't really have that. I'm not saying it looks bad. It just kind of looks, you know, just Transformers. Like how if we ran, if we rendered the Transformers as an animated film, what would they look like? So visually, it's not exactly popping off, but you hit the nail on the head. We're like, this does look funny.

Like, not only are the jokes like hitting, but there's like funny, like comedic timing for the characters. I don't remember the exact moment, but one of the I think it's maybe Keegan-Michael keys character. Bumblebee. Is that who it is? Bumblebee. Okay. yeah. Yeah, he's probably be 251, and he hasn't got his. It's like, we'll call you being like, oh, is Bumblebee. That makes sense, because I think he is yellow in the trailer, but there's some sort of like catastrophe that happens off screen.

Then the second the camera cuts back to him, he like, turns 180 degrees in like one frame and just started booking it the other way. And I was like, oh, this is really funny. So I feel like they have a lot of talented people, hopefully behind this movie. but I feel like it's going to be kind of hard to maybe find the audience because most of the audience out there right now only knows Transformers really from Michael Bay. Right?

And we're going to be just living with these characters on Cybertron, which is a weird thing for me to wrap my head around because, like, they transform into cars in this trailer, but they're not actually cars. It's kind of like an alien looking locomotive, but it essentially is like, oh, okay, it's a car. And then there's a shot where it shows. The soon to be named Optimus Prime is like flying off into the horizon in the shape of a semi-truck. I just find that really funny.

It's like, this is a planet like, you know, light years away, and they kind of already are looking like cars. So I don't know, I just find it kind of humorous, but like, well, I mean, that's the writing. That's always been. It's good. Yeah, that's always been Transformers. But I think the thing with Transformers is it's always taken itself too seriously. If you go back and watch the cartoons from the 80s, like that, stuff doesn't really hold up that well.

Like it's like, oh, that's your your G.I. Joe era where they were just cranking these out to make toys right along the way. And, you know, then the Michael Bay ones, like, oh, we're too serious. And, you know, we're obviously here to, you know, kill each other and do war crimes against each other. And then this one's like, all right, this is, this is this is funny.

Like obviously like you mentioned this Chris Hemsworth is Brian Tyree Henry, Scarlett Johansson Keegan-Michael key Steve Buscemi is is in this. And Laurence Fishburne, if you I don't know if you caught their voices. I caught their eye. I caught Buscemi's name at the end there, but I didn't know who he was supposed to be. Yeah, I think he's he's, He's not the guy who gives him the powers. I think he's, like, one of the villain ones there, but, like, you know, obviously they're transforming.

Like, this is the origin of how they got to transform and stuff like that. So I'm not holding the lure of Transformers precious in this. I'm like, but it's going to be fun. I just didn't expect it to be funny. I was like, oh, this is going to be an actual humorous movie compared to like, where you kind of stop the Autobots because they're going to kill are the substances that are going to destroy Earth again, because there's some MacGuffin along the way. right. Like the, the spark of leadership.

So I'm excited. I don't know, I get I don't expect a Transformers two or a sequel out of this, but, it is it is nice to see them doing something with Transformers rather than just kind of running the into the ground along the way, if you will, for the, for that kind of stuff. So, check out the trailer, in here. We'll, we'll talk to you guys when it comes out. I think it's September 20th. It's a late, late summer, early fall movie.

Mike, you probably won't be able to see that, but hopefully it'll be on Paramount. Who owns that stuff later? sooner than later, moving into that same, realm of, I think this was a streaming movie, right? Five Nights at Freddy's hit, streaming at the same time was theaters. Yeah, it was a duel. It was a dual release strategy. Simultaneous release, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the few ones there.

And, the sequel was announced this week, to to due to the success of the first one, not only on streaming but in theaters. It made a bunch of money back. a lot of people, a lot of Five Nights at Freddy's fans went out to see this. That was great. And they're shooting in 2025 release with, the cast returning that. Yeah. So not surprised. I feel like this is definitely going to be a franchise that's going to go probably like 5 or 6 movies. And I, I feel like it's going to ebb and flow and quality.

Right. It's going to be that math equation that studios like, it's a Blumhouse film, right? If I remember. Right? Yeah. And there's yeah. Yeah, they're always just doing that cost versus benefit, equation for all of their films. So the second, you know, it drops off and it's not making money anymore. They'll, they'll digit. Right. Yeah. And I think, you know, as long as the cost to make it doesn't balloon into, like, tentpole level stuff, they're probably always going to see a return.

Right. Like there are enough Five Nights at Freddy's fans out there that people like the movie. It wasn't just like the fans. People enjoyed the movie as well. So, I see this, you know, I wouldn't say. How many games are they on now? Four. Five. Oh, God, I don't know. I think there's a lot of like splinter games as well. They do have the advantage though, of I think really the only character that they really have to keep bringing back would be Matthew Lillard.

So I could see maybe as the franchise goes on, his rate goes up. But this seems like the type of franchise where you can throw in a brand new main character every movie. It doesn't have to be Josh Hutcherson, every film or. Or if it was Josh Hutcherson, you know, I think I think he'd come back simply just, you know, maybe for a slight, you know, raise. But like, I, I could see him coming back for one more movie. Right. Like doing to and. Essentially. Because what we're.

What we're trying to say, folks, is that the movie is entertaining, but it's like not good enough to, like, really warrant a ton of money thrown at it. So that's why we're making all these cuts. And the only reason it can get a sequel again and again is if they don't blow the budget every time, right? Like, don't, don't balloon this budget because then the return will never be there. We'll never seen this again.

But for Five Nights at Freddy's, fans and the people who thought it was a good film, good for you. Like great horror films, go for it. Right? Hang out there. Have a good time. Nothing against it. I just don't think we're the quite the audience. for the opening night to to watch it. I think it's worth streaming later down the road. I don't think the sequel will get a dual release, if I'm going to be honest. For them to like, we're going to spend more. We got to make more.

It's only going to be theaters and then we might get three. Then. Well. I mean, by the time this sequel comes out, Paramount might even be owned by a totally different company. So the the regime will probably change. Yeah. Possibly paramount. When they came out CinemaCon, they I don't think they, I think they kind of knocked down the fact that they were looking to be sold. But maybe I don't know, we'll we'll see if any. You never know. They all these companies gobble each other up all the time.

They're like, like, was a hydra where you, you know, cut one head off, two more appear down the road, and they'll happen. We've got some stuff from streaming next, because this is this is some exciting news for me because I love this idea. I am not the audience for this idea, but I love this idea.

Mike on Disney Plus, they are rumored to be creating an always on channels for their big brains, including Marvel, Star Wars, probably Pixar, Disney, and so on and so forth, which uses what's called fast channels. Fast or free ad supported streaming TV channels, which is what Tubi it does like, I'm sure Peacock and some other ones do it. It's all about like to be is known for huge numbers on their fast, channels that they keep putting out there.

And as you, as you know, this is something that I've created on my own home streaming network for myself because I love not having to pick what's going on. I just go to one channel. What what are you showing right now? Boom, I'm playing you. You're my background noise. Yeah. It's been really useful for me.

I, kind of equate this feature more with Peacock because that streaming service launch with this feature, I'm surprised maybe more people don't talk about it, but maybe since it seems like such a normal, kind of built in thing that we all grew up with, you know, aka cable, it almost doesn't seem like a selling point if you have it, but it's been great.

Like sometimes if you're having like people over during the day, you know, just like hang out and you want to like, throw something up on the screen, you know, just I open up Peacock and there's just tons of random channels like, oh, just throw on whatever random like office episode is playing. Or Peacock also has like an always on like SNL channel. So you can just get like, you know, repeated like sketches just going on and on and on.

So I think this is be great for Disney because especially since it's such a kid focused platform, you know, your kids in front of the TV, like, I don't want. To like get a blue channel. I'm on the blue tick. Yeah, exactly. And they can just like, watch it, like through and through. Just like how we were kid, like when we were kids. It's like nostalgia bringing it to the current day.

But the thing that annoys the most about me is, I know people are reading this headline and going like, oh my God, they're just all they're doing is just remaking cable. And like, I'm not saying they're not bringing a lot of those features back, but people seem to always forget harp on this all of the time. The number one feature that streaming services has is you can cancel them whatever the hell you want.

You know, like and people forget the fact that back in the day with cable, you had to sign year long contracts these and it was costing you like 80 plus dollars a month and you had no way to back out of it. And they just threw tons of stuff at you that you'd never well use. And you couldn't you couldn't cancel it. Well, I would tell you the biggest thing. And until those people who bitch about that. Like what?

What do you how much time do you spend on your streaming services trying to figure out what you even want to watch, right? You're like how? Like you spend an hour picking something and then you're like, I don't really want to watch anything because you don't know what to choose, right? The paralysis of choice, there's too much there. It's not really organized very well. Sometimes you got to dig for stuff unless you're promoting something.

So for me, at my own home, I have Dragon Ball channels, Mike with all the Dragonball stuff. We have a Christmas movie channel, we have a Harry Potter channel, we got a Pixar channel, an MCU channel, a non MCU Marvel channel, a DCU channel, and a couple others I've made along the way. And they're just fun. Whether you know now, the fast as they say ad supporting, you know, to to the letters in there. But like if you pay a premium I think they take the ads out.

But I mean, wouldn't that throw that off a little bit, like if you were trying to sync up with someone, like how we're watching stuff on Disney Plus turn on. But like, I don't know if that matters at the end of the day because they're not putting new stuff on there, but like, this is fine. This is just fine to be like, okay, I'm going to tune into something, put it on in the background. My wife likes to sleep to noise, like TV stuff. I don't I do not care for that. So she'll put something on.

I think, I think we've, I created a Pokemon channel with all 25 seasons of Pokemon on it and like, do you care where they are in the Pokemon show? Mike, if you wanted to watch it? No. You're like, ash is battling someone to become the very best. There's going to be a lesson about friendship, and then the show is going to continue on the next episode. team Rock is going to blast off again. Boom. Got it. Some of that stuff, you just need it there for noise right in the background.

And I think this will be great. Or as you mentioned, kids. I think that'll be huge. So, especially with Marvel, Marvel's got like what, 27 movies now, 28 movies and how many TV shows like that's a lot of that's a lot of content to sift through whenever you can just throw something on and just be watching it kind of in the background. So, I'm a I'm a huge fan of this. I hopefully other people get on board, for those who may use it or do not use it. So, very, very excited for that. moving on.

Hot news today. This is this is right before you show. You even thought you had it up on me, Mike. You thought it was so fresh. Chris doesn't even have this in his show notes. But there's a Deadpool Wolverine trailer tomorrow. Brand new one. and it probably includes the cinema CinemaCon footage, but bleeped, for the green band and then probably ended it for the red band stuff on YouTube. Yeah, this would be the second trailer, so I would imagine we would get more story points in the chat.

We actually get Hugh Jackman for the first time. They didn't show him in the first trailer. Oh yeah, that's right. It's just this silhouette of the, of the Wolverine claws. That's right. Yeah, I imagine some of that probably some more cameos, because this movie is rumored to be burdened with cameos, to, to to a point. So maybe some more of the bigger cameos showing Wolverine and as you mentioned, probably like, hey, what what are we doing along the way?

What is this movie about kind of thing? Yeah. this does get me, a little worried just thinking about cameos in general of, hopefully they have the, the forethought to not spoil too many of them, because I feel like once you get closer to the rerelease of a movie and they're, they're dropping those TV spots, like a week, a couple days before the movie premieres, they're throwing whatever in there to go get you to buy tickets.

Hopefully Deadpool, just his iconic look, is enough to sell a ticket, and they won't. spoil too much. And it's always fun getting surprised by cameos on screen. You know, the. CinemaCon footage was actually filmed for CinemaCon, where it's Deadpool saying, hey, you know, we're going to do a cameo. The Wolverine pushes him out of the frame and is like, don't spoil the fucking movie. I think those exact words like they used. So, like, even if that's the beauty of Deadpool, right?

And they can make their own commercials without showing movie footage for a lot of. Yeah, or like even fake it, like, oh, we're gonna put Deadpool in, like, movies, like Titanic scenes or stuff like that, even in Vegas. Out on the way. Yeah. And we would only I think we would really only talk about a movie like Deadpool with this reverence for, like, cameos. Right?

Because it doesn't really make us sound like, very, artistic, movie aficionados, if we're just like cameo, cameo, cameo member Barry, member Barry, just show me things that I'm already familiar with. but I think in the space of Deadpool, it makes sense and it fits the character. So that's probably why we're, it so it is focused on it. Well, it's also the skewering, the send off of the Fox universe, right? Like they bought the Fox universe.

Deadpool, the only movie that lived beyond the that is that that is a fox. When you've seen the set photos of the 20th century sign. So we do know or hope that there will be some cameos from the X-Men of those movies. but that doesn't will not make or break the movies. And the stories. Good. The characters are there, right? I think it's just little nice little icing. This is the colored sprinkles on my cupcakes. The icing is already there, but this is just making it look pretty along the way.

And I'm very excited for it. Like you know, said, I'm going to have a you know, we're we're very, very excited for this to come out in July. And, you know, it's this is going to be fun. I think I think Deadpool's a good time. And that seems to be a great creative team behind it. Unburdened from the previous Marvel regime or Disney regime. so we should be should be ready to rock and roll with this trailer tomorrow. Mike, I'm excited to message you about it or, you know, or anyone else here

who sees a message. This is us and and tell us what you think about it. And, you know, honestly, we're ahead of the game because our new TV studio here that we're filming in, on our, on our YouTube video, definitely makes us feel like we're part of this Marvel Jesus moment already. moving along, in the Marvel world of the, Captain America Brave New World, is, you're going to be undergoing some extensive reshoots to kind of retool that movie this year.

However, toys R decided well before reshoots are decided, right? and we have our first kind of look at some toys here, showing off, the Red Hulk, if you will, for McDonald's. so it sounds like it looks like some of these, toys were pre-decided a long time ago. We've we've heard the Red Hulk will be here. We heard it is rumored it's President, Thunderbolt Ross, played by, you know, Harrison Ford. However, Marvel can do fake outs. They can change the stories. They can, maybe it's somebody else.

And we're just led to believe it is President Ross along the way. But, we do have confirmation that there will be some of these toys in McDonald's Happy Meals. And what looks to be a character. It looks literally like the Black Widow in here. as well. But I thought she was dead, so it's probably somebody else along the way. Mike. Yeah, it's kind of funny because this movie was supposed to be out already, right? You know, I think what March is, when this was. I think it was February. March? Yeah.

It was supposed to be like the ten year anniversary of what it was. So I'm actually kind of surprised that this has held out for so long with coming across this. Right. but it is it is kind of weird. Like the cat's out of the bag for the Red Hawk, right? Everyone had theories behind it, but we're seeing it right here as plain, as plain as day. There's a logo up here, and then there's a Red hawk right here. I'm going to go the other way though, as well.

But like, you know, they may be leaning into these rumors because you remember Infinity War had the end scene with the Hulk running towards the see the camera. And he never showed up in there, right? He was in the Hulkbuster suit. They made a whole Funko of the Hulk busting out of the Hulkbuster suit, and that never happened. I'm not saying that this is.

But if they're doing extensive reshoots in the summer after these toys are out, they could essentially remove it if they if they feel he's not part of the movie. I guess that's possible. I mean, the Hulk has historically a CG character. So what is it? Just you open up your timeline out here and you just hit the little eyeball icon and then he's gone. Boop. Yeah, that could, you know, it depends on how much the retooling the show, right?

It's the retooling the show that that much or the movie not show that much. They they may be like, okay, well, we're doing too much at it. but if you get Harrison Ford, you want to use Harrison Ford's name to your advantage, right? Do as much as you can with them. So, we'll, we'll see how, how curmudgeonly he is when he comes back as, to do reshoots if he's cranky or not, see how they do it. But, you can check out that, image in our show notes as well.

I mentioned Daredevil, earlier in the show, 20, the 2023 of, not 2020 2003 version, but, their surprise dropping that on Disney+ May 1st. Mike, in a couple of weeks. Did not know it was not on there, to be honest. But I'm glad it's coming.

And for those who may not remember, it features Ben Affleck, Batman himself as Daredevil, Jennifer Garner as Electra, Colin Farrell, the Penguin as Bullseye, Jon Favreau, the director of Iron Man's in The Mandalorians, Happy Hogan as Foggy Nelson in that movie. If you remember, in the. Oh, Clarke Duncan, you can. Remember that was Jon Favreau, All right. Right. Everyone's like, Jon Favreau's in the movie.

I'm like, yeah, he was, he was he was Foggy Nelson. So, I this I remember going to see this movie in theater and not knowing. I was very confused when I walked out of it, but not knowing why. I was confused by this movie, just how like, I was like, I don't understand why I'm confused, but now going back, I'm like, this is not a good movie. this is what you're trying to shove everything in there and everybody's being shoved in leather suits and it's very crazy. Not really up to par.

They were just making movies at Fox and be making movies, but I'm excited to revisit it. To the leather phase of superhero movies was a time. Yeah, and the bad CGI. I remember when he's like sitting on top of the the church in the rain, and then he, like, spins around down the swing into the cathedral. I mean, I'm like, oh man, this is awful.

But I'm excited to revisit some of this because Michael Clarke Duncan, again, an actor who kind of elevates everything he's and you know, we we lost some way too soon. So I'm gonna see his take on the kingpin again when he was just a brute brawler if you will. So, I'm excited to watch it, but I'm not I'm not expecting quality by any means, but I'm glad it's on Disney Plus. And I want to give them. Give them that, give them that showing, if you will.

speaking of Fox properties, X-Men, the new X-Men movie from Marvel has kind of gotten, description, if you will, in Production Weekly. And it states with a quote here, Charles Xavier's team of merry mutants is charged with the mission of protecting a world that hates and fears them for their unusual appearances and abilities. And boy, could that not be more generic enough for Nick. To get that.

That is like if you asked ChatGPT to give you, like, the rundown of what the X-Men was and it just scanned the internet for all, descriptions of X-Men storylines. I mean, if we are to take this at face value, right, it seems like they're taking a very standard approach to the X-Men story, which is not necessarily a bad thing. but it does beg the question of like, what universe does this take place in? If it's Charles Xavier's team, where has Charles Xavier been?

He doesn't seem like the type of guy that, you know, stays out of, you know, the the catastrophe that's happening within the MCU. It seems like a guy that has powers that maybe we stepped up and done something. You know. We have no, release date for this movie. I think I want to put that out. We have no release date for this movie. So this is after Secret Wars. It could be an amalgamation, like, you know, a new kick off in the MCU, as we talked about, like, that soft reboot, if you will.

Kamala Khan has been labeled a quote unquote mutant in Miss Marvel, if you will. Doctor strange in the Multiverse of Madness had the returning Patrick Stewart in his iconic yellow chair from the X-Men animated show in the comic books in there. but, you know, it wasn't this, but like, it doesn't seem to be a logline. It doesn't seem like, hey, we know the finality of this movie, but more like, hey, we are making an X-Men movie and we're going to follow you.

What X-Men has done. So I can see this changing. I just don't think they want to fall into the Batman two approach. Remember? You remember we talked about the Batman two not securing studio space and time? and it had to be pushed back a year. I remember we we talked about the recent.

Oh, yeah, I did remember. So, I think they're just trying to get ahead of that and secure some studio space to film their stuff in before, like gobbles it up, because I think this will be post secret wars if I'm going to be completely transparent, this will not be in Secret Wars. It'll be like we're going to relaunch and X-Men are going to be one of our big brands. We roll with it. Yeah. I'm just I keep imagining this future. Right? Like, what does that final Avengers movie look like?

Right. I got to assume Loki and that, you know, time, time stream tree or whatever that he's holding together on that throne comes together and there's this just big catastrophe singularity, event horizon, black hole type situation. And then there's like, you know, one like, not just like half of the universe blipping the, like, entire universe, you know, going away. And then. Yeah, I'm just really curious how you sum how you sum that up as a whole. Right?

Because when the Avengers Endgame ended, the emotional resonance around it, I mean, obviously it was a big bombastic popcorn fun, right? That final battle endgame, it still gives me chills thinking about it. But we did have like, character arc wrap ups. You know, we finally got to see like Tony Stark, you know, be the hero he always wanted to be with that, you know, sacrifice. We got to see Captain America finally ride off into the sunset.

So it makes me wonder, like, what characters are they setting up to do that? I would think maybe Tom Holland's Spider-Man would be top of that list. We've talked about Spider-Man being a big part of that. you know, I can see, honestly, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine being carried over as well into that. Like kind of sunsetting everything old news wise, if you will. It's got it. It's got to be Thor two. Like I would think. Thor, Spider man. Thor, Doctor Strange in the Hulk.

Those are the three I'm putting out there because those actor I mean Mark Ruffalo great actor does get Hulk getting up there in age. Probably does want to be Hulk forever, right? Like that's a lot of motion capture still with him. So I imagine they're going to reset. Possibly the Hawkeye Hawkeye, sunset Hawkeye as well. for good rather than, you know, his show.

So I think there's going to be a lot of those, you know, from still from the first Avengers saga or I guess the Infinity Saga who are still here are going to be the ones who the second half, who get rebooted and then anything carried over that's working. Okay. Because I don't think Shang-Chi is not going to end up after, like end up end before Secret Wars, right? He's going to carry over.

He's got he's got some stuff to carry with that. So, but you know, I'm not too worried about I just think, you know, you're going to have to introduce new characters. I think the X-Men is going to be something that will be a brand them in the fantastic for carrying the MCU forward into that reboot era, if you will. I'm I'm just going to be really curious right, how like a general audience, you know, reverberates with all of this, right?

Because if you're just familiar with just comic book universes in general, like it's just par for the course, things get like reset and restarted all of the time, and you're just kind of used to it, you know, you're used to new writers, new artists being brought on to put their stab on a character. so this will kind of be like the first time that happens to the big general public. And I'll just I'll be curious to see what the headlines are like.

Right. You know, when they see that, I think no scene. I think it'll be it'll be easy. I think I think it'll be easy because I think this will end the multiverse. Everything's doing multiverse. You mentioned invincible doing multiverse. DC has been doing multiverse. So the you know, Marvel's been do everything's got a multiverse now, right? I think if Marvel can wrap up a multiverse and get things stream, that'll be the headlines. No one true Marvel again, right?

We're not we're not going to veer off into multiverse. We're going to go back to one world, one problem. So I think that'll hopefully knock on would be the the the lead news into into that at the end of the day. But I'm excited for the X-Men. We've been enjoying X-Men. We're going to talk about X-Men 97 next. Mike with X-Men 97 episode five review. We are a week and a half behind on this. this one. Remember it. So this is episode five, the mid-season one, not the newest life death part two.

So this is the one. I just watched it last night. Mike. so spoilers. I can go ahead and say spoilers for X-Men 97. Going in this since two weeks. Yeah, there's going to be. Yeah, we're going to have spoilers in and out for the rest of the episode with X-Men 97 and also Rebel Moon. So I got to assume that there's some Venn diagram crossover there. Yeah, exactly. So spoiler spoiler warning here.

X-Men 97 I've been putting this episode off because I the news for X-Men 97 hits me before I'm able to watch them, because my wife has to watch these shows. You haven't got to watch Life Death Part two because your wife wants to watch it. So like, you know, I'm like, okay, we got to do this. I've been going through the news articles last week, and here I just been putting this off because this episode is so fucking heavy, like, emotionally, like on me as a person.

I'm like, I don't want to watch people die. I don't want to watch, you know, one of the biggest massacres in X-Men comic books and in the anime thing happened on screen, for this, especially with the the loss, the death of Gambit. Right. One of our favorite characters growing up, but still to this day game. It's just such a smooth badass with a Cajun accent and. So cool. To see him die on. Screen. Just awesome visuals to his look. I mean, I wasn't expecting any of it at all.

Like the the the episode just kind of like lures you in with just a lot of, like, political intrigue. You know, they had been talking about genocide, this whole season so far. And we finally get to go there. You know, we're kind of in the middle of the season, so I thought maybe they were going to be toning it back for this episode. They're like, oh, this is where we save our budget. You know, this is where we save our, you know, a lot of our hours in, you know, animation department.

Well. They also I would also say, well, well, I think also in the story arc set up right in the second half, you're either at their best or their worst, right? Like you said, everyone up to be the best as they go into to lose it all or they've lost it all and they have to build it back up. And, everybody lost it all. Really lost. So we have the potential death of Magneto.

We didn't see his body, but we did see Gambit dying rogue touch him and say, you know, obviously the line repeated twice since I can't, I can't feel you, which is awful. But he did in his last moments as a heroic sacrifice, blow up the Kaiju Sentinel with one of the coolest attacks ever. Because, you know, obviously he can make things kinetically destroy. And I was like, oh, he got stabbed. He wasn't able to do his cool bike trick again. He's going to die here.

But no, he took the kaiju down with it. So he was a hero at the end of the day. But boy, it's just a fucking gut punch, dude. Like I was like, yeah. The Sentinel, the the that last. That's that's just. Yeah. Was like visually so impressive. Like with the fidelity of like the like the vehicles like you're talking about with, like the motorcycle and the action and just the absolute dread that this kaiju brings over, like just blasting all of these, like, just innocent mutants.

And it's and they really just make you think, like, how are they going to get out of this one? Like, how can like one. Who's showing up? Yeah. It's like they have like the is Magneto considered an elite Omega level mutant? Yeah. He that's what he says. The he they were they right before they blast him and he protects the kids. They say omega level detected in this magneto. Yeah. And like and he can't even really make a dent on this. And I brought this up before about this show.

But the the coolest thing about an animated world is like, your suspension, for the world is so much looser compared to if you're watching something live action. Now, if I was watching like a live action incarnation of a gambit or really any superhero character, and they were going up against something that big, I would think like, oh, you have to show me so much more to convince me that they could destroy this. But like, it's gambit, like he's got this, he's got this mystery to him.

We don't know everything that there is about his powers, you know? Yeah, he can make objects like blow up and stuff like that. But what is he capable of if he goes to. Like, what's your biggest. Risking his whole life? And it's like, oh, it's cool. Like he gets stabbed. He's like, yeah, like I'm like, I'm going out on top. You're going to remember it. I'm going to blow you up. And it's like, it's like so amazing. And then it ends on that emotional like last line with rogue.

And I was like, me and my me and my wife were just shook. We just look at each other like, did that just happen? And I would say, you know, you've been talking about the animation and all that stuff, and I could give two shits about it because it looks like the original. But like from a storytelling point of view, you care that much about these characters, right? That to me, that's a huge win overall. Like to care about these fictional characters.

You have Magneto, you know, spewing off, you know, why would we let a war criminal run a country? He's like, well, well, everyone who's running other countries, why do you let them be war criminals kind of thing? It was a very fun thing. but the relationship, the love triangle in Gambit, Rogue and Magneto, you get to see that history there. But then also on the other side, there's like the Cyclops, Madeleine Pryor, Jean gray kind of love triangle going on. Right?

Because they're they're clones of each other. Who's real? What's real? That really wasn't resolved either. It was just a very, I guess, like I said, emotionally draining episode overall. And you're like, you care about all these characters. You're like, I want them to succeed. I want the mutants to have the, you know, that life, that peace, that they're working so hard for. And it just ends real. Even it cuts to black before Rogue's lines even dawn, right?

Like it just ends with a voice over an empty screen. And it. I can't believe they're able to pull it off and make you care about all those characters along the way. yeah. We haven't. Been. I will say we have. Go. I don't know, I mean, we haven't been hearing too much from the creator of the show because obviously just before it aired, you know, they were fired and we don't know why, but they have been going on, at least podcast being interviewed.

And he said that this episode was kind of meant to be the turn in the series where, like, the first half of the show was just supposed to be pure nostalgia, bring you back to the 90s of what it was like to be a kid watching X-Men, and then after this, it's like, oh no, the show is going to be like a whole new. And after this episode. And he mentioned that, you know, this is kind of inspired, quote unquote, by nine over 11, right?

Like literally like, you know, a people who grew up watching the show are living in a post 911 world, like, what does that, you know, attack on your home country kind of look like? And how do you resolve that? And I'm interested to see their pick up because the next episode you haven't watched yet, episode six doesn't touch on this yet. it kind of, you know, mixes in with some of the other things kind of going on.

So I'm interested to see, you know, where they pick up and how how do they, they work through this kind of along the way, because there's a lot to be caught up in the last four episodes. Me, Mike, we're talking before the show started. There's one episode and then there's a three part in like the last three or the ending part. So, you know, how are they going to wrap this up? I know there's more seasons and talks, at least a season two, which would be great.

I want to know, kind of what's going on, I will say I will put an asterisks on all of this, Mike, though. And you know why I put an Asterix on this episode? Remember it? Because we get to see cable for the first time in X-Men 97, and he shows up and he's like. Yeah, hey, I got a. Message for. GameStop. Yeah, I often forget that cable is there. So. And also, an animated show is always one step closer to the origin of a comic book than a live action adaptation is.

So for one step closer are only one step removed from a comic book. No one ever really, truly dies in the comic book world. So I there could be a way to bring bring them back. And what's cable's power? I mean, what is what is he known for? He's known for time travel. Coca cola. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. No, no, you're he's known for time travel. Right. So if he's there and he got sent back in time, he's like, I'm too late. Is he trying to come back and stop this?

Like, is there going to be one of the episodes? I'm not saying it's for sure they could leave us as it is, and that's perfectly fine with me. They don't need to undo it. But is he trying to come back and stop this moment from happening right overall? And what would those repercussions have along the way? So maybe there is some time travel down the road where they do this or save some of the people I don't know, but when cable appears, that makes me remember, oh, there's a reset button right?

There is one reset button along the way that we could we could lean into. So, I'm interested. I'm intrigued. I love X-Men 97. Mike. Every week, you know, I did. We had a delay on this one. I need you to watch it, but as soon as I finish, I'm like, I'm watching the next one. Like, I'm bingeing these two in a row because I got it. I got to get in here. So I can't wait for you to watch Life Death Part two. And we we get to talk about that.

Anything else you want to add about it before we jump into, our movie review for the episode? God, let's let's get it over with. Okay, so this week, we is, Rebel Moon part two, The Scar Giver debuted on Netflix. So this is the sequel to last December's, Rebel Moon Part one, The Child of Fire. And I will tell you, this is my own personal hell this weekend. You know why? Because I was with a Taylor Swift fan, and then she had a new album come out on Friday. Surprised double album with that.

So 31 songs. and also so I'm surrounded by Taylor Swift fans. That's fine. I'm not here to knock them. They can have their music, can have their artists. It's fine. They're just, you're kind of culty a little bit, a little bit. And, you know, to that regard they're all, that's fine. They're not hurting anybody. They can have their cult. But then also on Surround by Zack Snyder fans watching Rebel Moon. And that's another cool I really can't deal with.

So I'm surrounded by two cults on both sides. So I'm just having an awful, awful weekend overall. Dealing with these two cults now. Yeah, not to hurt anybody. If you guys want to like it, you can like it all you want. I don't care what you like. Just don't be mean to people. Don't, don't don't make it a, campaign to hurt other people. But, you know, we got a I was lucky to to get down, to sit down and get a watch, you know, by myself in the quiet of my my home theater.

Rebel moon, part two, the Scar Giver. And, Yeah, I, Yeah. I don't know what to say. Mike. I'm gonna let you kick this off because I don't have the words to even start this right now. Yeah, obviously this is spoilers, but I can't imagine anyone out there who is wanting to watch Rebel Wilson Part two hasn't gone out of their way to watch it already. but I'm trying to figure out I like analogies whenever I try to, you know, describe how I'm feeling about something.

And the closest I've come to to describe watching a Rebel Moon part two, or maybe even this whole mini franchise that Zack Snyder has kicked off. It's like Netflix has given Zack Snyder this beautiful, raw piece of, like, rib eye steak, three inches thick, beautifully marbled. This is basically the analogy for the buckets of money they put at his feet to cook them a nice dinner, and he takes that piece of meat and just cooks an absolutely unremarkable dinner out of it.

It's not like he's doing anything so unique that he's like, coating it in wasabi and throwing Cheetos on top of it, and that's fun. Seasoning it in edible. Yeah, it's like it's either unseasoned or he picked way too much of one seasoning and like, only put it like around the edges of the steak. It's just you finish the meal and it's just absolutely forgettable. And then that's when the check comes in.

You realize how much more you could have gotten with that amount of money than this cut of meat that you were just served. Like I, I'm only imagining how many other shows that could have been greenlit, how many other original ideas that could have been made, and instead we just got this incredibly rote story from Zack Snyder. And, I don't know what compelled us, Chris, to watch this movie. I think it's just we watch these curiosities.

Curiosity. Curiosity. And we we desperately want to be proven wrong, but also we want to be proven right in the face of these Snyder fans that, like Snyder, doesn't have it anymore. And if he ever did have it, it was a long time ago. luckily, this essentially costs us nothing to watch. You know, if you kind of, plan your finances in a way to, take in the cost of a streaming, I. Downloaded, I didn't pay, I didn't pay that much. I'm not giving Netflix my money for these.

Oh, well, the really the great thing is, since we're we're house setting, technically, my algorithm is not going to be affected by part two because I watched it on their TV here. Oh, yeah. sorry to them, watching this, movie and, throwing off their, I think they were watching a lot of, like, murder mysteries. So they're about to get an injection of a lot of bombastic action films, but it's just it's so it's so unremarkable.

Boring. Like, I pause it halfway through to go take a shower, because I was more noticing that, like, my hair was getting greasy and I needed to hop in and take a shower because I started this in the morning, I was like, I just need to get this out of the way. I'm like, I didn't even get out of bed. I watched this movie in bed. My comment to Mike when I found out about this, I was like, you woke up this morning and chose violence, obviously, because exactly. You start that off in the morning.

I was, I was, I was at the store, but I was like, I don't even want to get into this yet. Yeah. The reward to me though was like as soon as this movie's done, I can go eat lunch. And I love, I love lunch. It's the best part of the day. So I got it out of the way and I was able to eat lunch. And that's when I came up with the with the steak analogy on the on the walk down to the pizza place at the end of the road. But it's just, I mean, I'm very curious to see a sample of people.

Of which part do they prefer? The first part or the second part? So which one. Do you think is the least worst? You know, so. I'm going to give you my, my take on that. How about that. Because I thought about this and I think part two is better than part one.

And I think that and I say that because part one sets up, tells you what it is from the beginning and just goes and is kind of set in like really one location and you're not planet hopping and meeting all these people you don't give a shit about, and then a lot of them dying by the end of the movie, like the first one. like I forgot, Charlie Hunnam wasn't even in this movie in the first part of this movie. Like until I was like trying to find images to put on our new thing.

I'm like, oh yeah, Charlie Hunnam was in that. Or like, you know, Ray Fisher is momentarily in this because he was momentarily in the first one. This one was like, okay, you've got your character's and you've got your villains and your heroes and they've got a plan. And this more I want to say it's like a heist, but it's much, very much like the back half of A new Hope. Once they get on the desk, start like getting on the dust and blowing, like escaping the Death Star. Right in A new Hope.

Very much feels like this. There's a lot of Star Wars references overall. He can say, well, yeah. There's. This is Star Wars like, no, but. There's literal like lightsabers in this movie. I mean, they look a little bit different, but for all intents and purposes, Zack Snyder put lightsabers in his lightsabers. And, you know, there's there's, you know, clone troopers, a big Star Destroyer in the sky, if you will. Right. Who can blow up, you know, the village and all this other fun stuff.

So it's really very Star Wars, but, like, I think this one that was very straightforward to the point. More so than the first one. I'm not saying I enjoyed this. I have to look at our chat where I was telling you what was going on, to remember part of this movie. because I'm like, I don't remember a lot of it going down. What the happenings are going on of this? I do think, you know, we we joke there's a lot of wheat harvesting in this, very early on, a lot of slow motion wheat harvesting.

the, the the wheat in this movie is equivalent to the locusts in that last Jurassic World movie. Like, why is there so much focus on this? It's like Snyder felt like he was a genius when he was just like, oh my gosh, the bad guys want the wheat so much. We're going to surround all of the structures in the village with wheat, so they can't get to us. but in that in that fight scene, the bad guy comes the comes to the realization of just like, oh, we just want the scar giver.

And then we're going to go back to the home world. And it's just like, I felt like he could have came to that realization. Well, he did come to the realization that she was on that planet before they even got there. So I was like, I don't know, they why they weren't lighting up the shacks like. Well, he wasn't. He wanted to bring her back. That's why once he was on the ship, he was like, yeah, I don't care. We're going to capture. He was very hyper focused, so I understand that a little bit.

The backstory, like there's a scene where everyone's given their backstory around a table. He's like, you know, I their backstories weren't even in. They weren't inviting, like, I didn't care about their backstories here. That should have really happened in the first one either along the way. So, I mean, even I will say I even text you like there's a literal deus ex machina god from the machine, a machine, a plot point showed up to save everybody.

That was literally a machine that acted like God in this movie. Mike at one point. So there are things I really hate about. Like, I at least understood where this was taking place and who was involved the whole time. So that's why I give part to a better pass in the first part. Mike, did you have a preference over part one or part two to answer your question? I mean, I think I would that. You. They're both bad movies. I would say the first one to me is less bad just because there's more there.

There's more variation of things happening than the first movie. Like at least there's stand out moments that I didn't like them, but at least I remember them. Like the ridiculous extra, extra slow motion like hippogriff seem that's in the first movie. I remember that the planet that they go to to try to make the deal for. I don't remember what deal that they were making, but it was some alien planet where they just obscured the entire city and like fog. So they didn't have.

To wear one of the three actual aliens in both of these movies. Yeah, exactly. So I'm just saying I prefer the first one because I just remember more things about it. This second part is just like set up. And then I told you, the second half of the movie, the battle scene, it's just all lasers and dust, because that's all that is happening. And I it was just nothing out of the ordinary is happening. Like all none of these characters have particular interesting traits except for one.

And you told me it was the only thing you actually liked about the movie. It was the it was the woman with the glowing red katana. It's like she's the only yeah, visually interesting bit of the film. Well, she's also visually and I think she has the best backstory because her backstory is revealed that she has to cut her own arms off and put these mechanical arms on to get her sword fighting abilities right kind of thing. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

It's not like, oh, I'm a general, and watch my people get killed because someone lied to me kind of deal, right? Or hey, I, you know, I was, you know, my, my planet was freed, and now I want to fight for them. Like, she had, like, the most, I guess, personal experience of the whole thing. And I'm like, okay, that's cool. So I'll give her that credit in that regard. But the rest of it was just, you know, again, it's like Star Wars all over again.

it just there was a lot of cutaways, I felt, in this one for being PG 13 that I feel we're going to get in the R-rated version. Like, the villains had gets cut off at the end and they kind of just quick cut away from it. I'm like, oh, we're going to get that in the final R-rated director's cut of this stuff, right? Like there's a bunch of, you know, we cut away from some early sex scenes early on, where she's given her backstory and they're like, you know, naked kind of thing.

And I'm like, oh, we're going to get a lot more nudity and sex scenes later in the RV. I don't want to watch the R-rated cuts like I don't care, like it never gets better. I don't want to. Ever watching these movies ever again if I can help it and it and it has the gall to end on a cliffhanger of a much bigger story, like, I. Think that's the worst part of it. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like Snyder is just, getting high on his own supply so much that he thinks like, oh, they're going to be clamoring for this. I think I saw a headline where I don't know if he wants to make six more movies, or if it's going to be a total of six films total. It was total six. It's it's a trilogy of two is what he. There is absolutely no way that can happen.

Like I know Chris your your you were warning me that Netflix makes all of its decision based off its watch time and algorithm, but how on earth can two undeniably rotten movies get third, fourth, fifth, sixth installments? I just don't know how it could happen, especially in this new kind of phase of Netflix where they're trying to tighten up and stay the only profitable streaming service. The other it's just not running on investment. The problem is Rebel Moon has product fucking tie in.

So remember the popcorn things the Steins like they're still there at Walmart for Rebel Moon Part two. Mike Moore merchandise for this movie. Toys. I didn't even know they made stuff for Netflix like that. Or out there. So they're trying to Star Wars ify this stuff.

But I don't think if you made like the into this movie is is the whole first part of these two movies is a lie to get to the last line of this movie, which feels a lot like you, remember that Independence Day sequel they made you remember that? Like at the end of that, they were like, we're going to go to the aliens planet and kick their ass. That's what this felt like at the end.

They're like like at the end of this, you know, it's another podcast they call the game is on where at the end of it, it's like, oh, the game is on. They're saying that. They're telling you they're going to make another movie, then they never do kind of thing. And that's what the Independence Day thought this was. This is like at the end of it, literally like, you know, you you had to kill, you know, the princess, she, she forgave you.

You had to kill her because you're, you know, your adopted dad told you to. And then he turns on you and very, very stereotypical. Blanchett, as you mentioned. And then at the end, like, oh, the princess isn't dead. You're like, why didn't you start this off to say that? Like, that's what we needed to begin with, right? Like it's that's the that's the fun part, not the hey. Oh, yeah. By the way, she's actually not dead. Also, like, who gives a flying fuck about this princess?

Absolutely no work has been done to endear me to like the innocent people of the galaxy, if you will. The only like they spent so much time like trying to develop these bad guys that I don't even really know who the good guys are supposed to be. Obviously, these rebels are supposed to be good, but they have that whole flashback, right? that I it was absolutely horrendous and awful. Awful. It's like this Julius Caesar, like the trail of like the king and queen. Visually, it looks so stupid.

It looks like they're in theater costumes. Like literal like like musical theater, like king and Queen costumes on spaceship ships. Like, it's so, like, literal in 1 to 1. It's so weird and bizarre. And that's even set up with the point of saying like, oh, they are finally going to what, like decommission their last shred? Not because the. King they're, they're, they're, they're commissioning it. They're, they're sending off. The last one called the peacemaker is what it was they were making.

And because we don't need to make any more dreadnoughts anymore. Yeah. And to me, I just took it as like, oh, so they're they're longstanding era of like, colonization of the solar system or galaxy is finally come to the end and then, oh, the king and queen get slain like they don't seem like they were innocent either. So it's just like, I don't understand who are the good people supposed to be? Who are they fighting for?

Like, well, this guy was a dick and you cut his head off, like, okay, movie can be over now. It's just it's so under thought. It's so stupid. Snyder gets high on his own supply. He thinks he's like God's gift to earth. I cannot know his filmmaking anymore. Well, I can't see this. Probably. I don't think it's him. I can't hate the person. I can hate his art because I don't know him as a person.

I will say whoever just keeps greenlighting and stuff and not telling them no, that that's the problem right way. Someone needs to step in and be like as as a viewer, you need to make your content more digestible along the way and you know, his his answer is always going to be the director's cut. Well, what happened with this?

You know, the Justice League cut when you can take the feedback in over six years and then release something, obviously, or like, how long was it 3 or 4 years and make something then, yeah, you're going to make it better because you've had the internet tell you what was wrong and what was missing. And I'm not saying the Justice League is better, but like, they're I can't I can't hate him. I can hate that no one is telling them no. And no one's reining him in as a company right from Netflix.

Like who who there is not helping the procedure along the way, if you will, because it is just like he's like he made a movie, gave it to him and said, you have to show this. There are people there who could be like, we, we can do better, we can do more. But like that, that's what's missing for this. Yeah, to me, it just feels like the jig is finally up, right? Snyder finally got to the point in his career where he could make whatever he wanted, which was an original script.

Obviously, he had nobody butting in, giving him notes because he made exactly what he wanted. It put it on screen and it's not good. Like, I could see somebody you know, just sitting down, you know, they have other stuff going on in their day, on the weekend, they just throw it up on the screen. And then just occasionally they walk by the screen and go, oh, it's going on okay. It's like very surface.

Well I could see somebody getting some sort of extraction of enjoyment out of it, but to have the gall to build out this whole web of what he thinks is sophisticated storytelling, it's just not anywhere. Close to that. I don't think it's bad. I just don't think it elevates anything above, like the era of Westerns, right? There were just so many Westerns. They're not bad. They're just following the same formula. And the formula is what he wants it to be. Like you mentioned.

Yes, this is a background movie. I'm not paying to go see this. I'm not telling people anything. Go watch it. But as a movie, it's competent. It does have a start and stop. It's got the story along the way. It could be better. Absolutely. But I've seen much worse films along the way. I've seen movies. I saw Madame Web, Mike, I paid to watch Mad About. What and. Which is back.

It's like I'm obviously getting myself into, like, a fury because I'm bringing in so much other externalities to the movie. But if I go back to the beginning of what I was talking about, it's just un it's just it's it's. It. Is like. The, the biggest sin of film is you didn't try anything, right? Like you, you if you end up with a, a one or a ten. Great. You tried something and failed so spectacularly. People will talk about your failure.

If you try something, try your best and say, I've done the best thing I've ever done and it's a five, then that is the biggest sin to me, because you didn't really try anything new. You just did everything. So by the book or by the numbers are so blandly that you're potato salad sucks. Don't bring this back to my my pitch in. I don't want your potatoes salad that has no seasoning in it. Okay? It's the it's the biggest sin of the current generation of just being mid. there was this movie.

There was this one moment in the movie I wanted to bring up. No cap, was it? It was so weird to me. So a when when Cora, the the, the titular scar giver, is fighting her way off of the ship when she's trying to get back to her escape ship or whatever. So there's kind of like a little bit of, like a left to right tracking shot where she's fighting through some people and then, like, the last person to the right side of the screen is holding, like, this lightsaber or whatever.

So she meets the guy up, shoots him. I don't know exactly what she does, and he, like, drops his like, lightsaber, sword or whatever. She grabs it for a brief second and it's like, I don't know if it, like, electrocuted her or if it was like hot. Like, I think I think they're heated because they all had I looked they were all had gloves on. That's I was like, yeah. And she like and then she like dropped it. But then like she picked it back up and then she just used it later in the scene.

So I'm just curious like how does she. Like she wrapped she wrapped it though. She wrapped fabric around it so she could use it. And like but these are, those are the things that kind of like drive me crazy. That like, Snyder will like zero in on little things like this. Like, oh, I am so into this world, I'm going to make sure that this electric energy power sword has to be worn with a glove for no particular reason. and like, there's really no, like, payoff to it.

Like, I was expecting, like, I don't know, maybe this did happen in the movie and I was just zoning out. I was expecting like, oh, maybe the bad guy tries to pick it up, or somebody, like, sacrifices their bare hand to pick it up and stab somebody. But so it's like, why go out of the way to take this brief moment in your movie to show this one small, micro little detail for there to be absolutely no payoff? It's just, yeah, right.

This is where like a creative producer, like, comes in and go like, knock that shit off, get the movie going. We don't need these little moments that end up being nothing. Just like the zombie and Army of the dead that had the electric glowing eyes. This is the shit that he does. It drives me crazy. It's like he's trying to add these things in that'll pay off. Never because no one's going to make more of his stuff because it sucks. You're getting so angry.

You're getting you don't need to be this angry. It's not, it's not. This is not anger inducing. I think I think you've taken this too far because this is not anger inducing. It's just like, that's what he wants. He wants a reaction out of you, Mike. And. And you're giving him what he wants. To me, it's just like, it's, I will I will never, I would never recommend this anybody. I'll tell people exactly what it is. And I'm like, oh, that cool robot. Not in it, not in either of them.

He shows up and blows up a tank at the end because, you know, that's you need someone to kill the tank whenever everyone's about to die and all this other stuff. So he had this cool little action scene, but that was that, like, I can't I can't recommend this anybody. And I'm just like, this is there's going to be more of this. I know there's going to be at least one more. It may not be two more, Mike. They may not be four more, but I feel like there's going to be one more.

But I don't know if it's going to live on Netflix or maybe another person will pick it up. Right? What other streaming company is going to be like? We need the numbers Snyder's supposedly pulling in. I would be interested to see those numbers and see if somebody picks them up, because I think that's what that's going to be. Whoever wants this, the Snyder headlines, that they're the ones who's going to buy him next. At the end.

Of the day, I, I feel like this franchise just goes absolutely dark and silent. We don't hear anything from it for like 2 or 3 years. And then there's like a murmur or a rumor that Snyder wants to finish the story for the fans. So he's going to make, like a comic book or like an anime or something. So the comics wrap. Up the story. Oh. Timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout. Before you even get it. So they've already canceled the animated show. They've already canceled it.

there is a comic book, though. The comic book is out. I think it's out or coming out, but they did cancel. I didn't read this. The animated series. So, I think he said it's not coming out anymore. So somebody has canned the animated thing already, so at least be happy that's not coming your way. because I did that, I did, I did, I did my homework before we got into this, Mike. To double check all that fun stuff. So, man, the. Things I could have spent two hours doing this weekend, and instead.

I thought it was. I literally thought it was going to be 2.5 hours. And then you meant you missed it. I'm like, oh, at least it's only two hours with credits. At the end of the day, I will say, oh my God, I forgot about. I forgotten everything about this movie. The one thing that frustrated me, Mike and I will tell you this, this is my this is my last bit in this, the no payoff zone, as you mentioned, they set up, in that first movie, we were like, oh, they're going to know

that the their team has been killed. Everyone's there. But the one person they saved was a kid who's on their team who reports back and says Green Productions on normal. and then he has a relationship or he's in love with, like, the young girl they saved in the first movie. And I'm like, oh, my God, they're going to kill the boy. And that's going to ruin them. They're going to kill the girl and really ruin the relationship, right? Like that's the point.

Like you're like, oh, someone's going to sacrifice themselves for this previous war mongering dude. so they can have a relationship, a young love relationship. And nothing fucking happens with that either. Like, boy howdy, did they just leave that on the floor? a lot of time spent on those guys lovingly gazing into each other's eyes while slowly cutting wheat. and trying. To not just keep that. You just keep reminding me about insane things that happen in this movie.

Like, I couldn't get my brain off the fact that when they're doing the montage where they're training the villagers and they show them like slicing these like, straw, like scarecrows or whatever, I just keep thinking, like there's a line of like 20 villagers that all need to practice on this scarecrow. But the first person to walk up to it has already cut it down to bits. Is there somebody just off camera, off to the side that's just constantly making these scarecrows to train the village?

I was like, this cannot be the most efficient way to teach these people how to fight. The constantly make scarecrows for them. Well, it's nice that. And I think I also told you this, this village of 40 people. Somehow it keeps having more and more people show up out of nowhere because like, there's not a lot of people here in those five houses, right? And I'm like, by the time this is all said and they've killed probably 30 of these people, so there's like ten left in this village.

And they consider that the victory at the end of the day. Right. which to me is my I don't I can't grab my scope around this village because I'm like, I don't understand. There's like really only six buildings, right? Like, where are all these people coming from and living in this little village? along the way, I just don't quite understand it. because the number of people just kept changing.

Like, like, do they have, like, neighbors or something, like, is this the only village for, like, hundreds of miles, could they not? Oh, we talked about that. They they come to this one planet and find this one tiny village that has the grain. That happens to be where this this lady is, is hiding away. I know, a lot of a lot of thought, not a lot of execution. But at the end of the day, as Mike said to me, this one, if I had to rate the two, this one's a better two.

Two, because it's it's a lot less plant hopping. And I don't remember the first one. I remember this one cuz I just watched it, but, like, I really think as you nailed on the head here, this is just me. I think there's nothing else above it. You know, I can't I can't go above a five. I can't go low because it's not bad. It's a competent film. It's just not anything for me. And I can't recommend this anybody. So I think that's my last. anything you want, add on this before we get on.

Oh, just get out. No, no, this is done. I'm done with this. Okay. All right, well, we'll see you in that, though. The, the R-rated cuts, hopefully they just cut as one big movie later down the road when they do the R-rated cut. So we'll see how that how that happens down the road. But anyway, Mike, if people want to know what you're up to, what you're doing, where your rage and at where can they find you? Oh, find me raging in my cage with my webcomics at Life Rewards risk.

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