Cinemacon Reveals: Deadpool & Wolverine, Superman, TMNT, Transformers, Star Trek, and more!

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Superhero Slate, the show where we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV, movies and superheroes. So let's talk it all out. My name is Chris. And my name is Meg. And this week we're taking a look at all these juicy CinemaCon reveals because, nothing brings out the weirdest news and the most unexpected announcements. Like a good CinemaCon. So we've got, Deadpool and Wolverine, we've got Superman, we've got Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Mike, we have not had a good section on them in a long time for you. This one's even more up your alley than usual. we've got Transformers, we've got G.I. Joe. I don't think even a Star Trek and more coming episode. It's always a always interesting podcast when G.I. Joe makes it into the, opening intro of our podcast. So looking forward to see what you have in the G.I. Joe realm. Speaking of G.I.

Joe, though, and bringing it back to action figures, which, you know, always brings it back to our childhood, the Instagram algorithm has started targeting me with, like, vintage 90s action figure boxes and, I mean, obviously, we love retro. We love nostalgia. You were just talking yourself, Chris, before we started recording about how you want to bathe your basement in. The it with the floor. In the warm orange wood of the 90s.

And, I'm starting to see, like, these, like Batman and Spiderman, like, action figures from the cartoon show back in the day. And I saw I saw a Batman this morning. It was called, Lightning Strike Batman. And I forgot how cool this action figure was because I had it. And when I look at it, I can like, literally feel it. It's like, it's like a plastic cape shell that goes around Batman. And then you can open it up and turn it into a glider. It was so cool.

And it was it was so nice to, like, visually see it again. It's like seeing a picture of an old friend and it's just like, oh, I remember this. And then not only like, do I see it, but like it's like my fingertips can remember feeling it and opening up the glider and it's just like, oh, this is how they get our money. This is why they're like, fine. That's why they're taking those molds out of like, storage.

And they're like remaking those action figures and putting them next to like the the DVD section in the back at target. they haven't made it to Lightning Strike Batman yet, but if they did, I'd probably be buying it. Yeah. And a lot of companies are picking up, cheap licenses to produce some of those toys very similar to that, but, like, cheaper, if you will. And that's not fun. But what I sent you, Mike, it's funny you mentioned this.

I was in target the other day, and I literally came across a Jurassic Park, box set of Doctor in Malcolm, a Dilophosaurus and a baby Triceratops, which are again re molds of the 93 toy releases they had, which my brother and I had almost all of the Jurassic Park toys. oh my. God, I'm just I'm looking at this now. the box art is just hilarious. Like, could you imagine of this what the movie actually was? Yeah. So you have Jeff Goldblum getting in.

But Jeff Goldblum is in a glider with a electric bolt shooting gun at the Dilophosaurus. I mean, I mean, it looks like he's shooting a rocket. I don't know exactly what like. And it looks like it could easily veer off and hit that baby, dinosaur in the background. But it is funny. It looks like it's been marked on clearance, like, two times in a row. It it's unclear. And this was like, as you can see, it's in the transformer section. So someone I think has maybe hidden this and like moved it.

And then this finally found its way back to the front of all the toys, because I've never seen these 93 classics, because had I seen them I didn't buy this one. But God help me, my my finger was on that trigger to buy this. instead I bought a transformer. I actually bought a beast war for, that was next to it I hadn't seen anywhere else.

So, you know, thank God for for Beast Wars returning as well, because I told you recently it was a beast Wars redid their, the anniversary packaging had, like, that dinosaurs scale on that dinosaur. I on the packaging. Do you remember those for the. Really? Yeah. So all of mine still have those that packaging, but it's absolutely crazy. you know, 30 years on from the 90s, that they're redoing all these toys. I've seen a lot of turtles, toys that you.

I think I sent you a photo of one where you pushed the pizza through the turtle, and it comes out like it's their stomach or whatever. Oh, yeah. So far, so. And I remember those from the 90s, so it's just wild. I agree with you. It is absolutely wild there. Tag it on that nostalgia for all these. Yeah. It's like a it's like a tax on being a millennial. All you want is the simpler times back. I desperately want this very specific Gundam wing figure, not model kit. I'm not building anything.

I'm not painting anything. It's an action figure. And it's like I found out there's, like, a higher end, like, action figure series called, like, the Robot Spirits. And it's this black Aries action figure. and it's so cool, but I cannot I cannot get myself to pull the trigger on this thing because it's regularly, like, 70 to $90, and it's just like a six inch figure. This isn't like some sort of, like, big, kind of like hot toys, like sideshow collectible thing.

so I keep my eye on it, and I have a feeling it's, an affordable price. Like, if you're in Japan and you can just walk into a store and get one. So the millennial, tax has not quite hit me on this one, but it could happen any day. Chris, I understand your feeling. Oh, absolutely. And it's it's just one of those things you. I wish I could have bought these things when I was younger. Now I'm an adult and have the money to do so. So guess what? I will buy myself those toys in this moment.

one of the things, actually, before we we swap topics here, was do you remember the Power Rangers that could flip their heads like they were asking? Did they flip their heads? Yeah. yes. My grandfather would buy a whole set for her, for us grandkids. And I remember would playing with those and combining their weapons together to make the super ultra power weapon or whatever they had. so, I love some nine original Power Rangers toys, through and through.

Whenever I see them, I'm like, oh, man, that's that's fantastic. we also had a bunch of wrestling figures, which is a good segue into our next topic, even though. Yes. yeah. We'll talk about things that were big in the 90s. Wrestling, last weekend was wrestle WrestleMania. I don't remember what number it was. I cannot tell you what number was, but it was wrestling. I, I honestly didn't know they were numbered.

I thought they just kind of like happened, yearly, but I guess the Super Bowls numbered, so that makes sense. Yeah, I think I think there it was like 40. I think it's like their yearly event. Yeah, it was, it was WrestleMania 40. I knew it was a nice, a nice even number. but apparently, these things, these wrestling stories, they, they bring a lot of players in.

And at the WrestleMania last weekend, they had what, you know, I've seen called their endgame moment, their Avengers Endgame moment, where at the end of it, there's a wrestling match between, a guy named Cody Rhodes and, another one named Roman Reigns, who was actually he was an actor. If you watched the, fast spin off with the Rock in it, and Jason Statham, what was that one where they went to, The Rock's family, his his, hometown. Oh, God. Hobbs and Shaw.

Hobbs and Shaw. Hobbs. Shaw. Yeah, yeah. Hobbs and Shaw. so he was in there, but at the end of this, they bring in, John Cena shows up out of nowhere. Who hasn't been in wrestling in forever. He's been doing, you know, his Barbies and his, was it Ricky Stanky? is that how you pronounce it? The movie? you know, he he's doing all these other fun stuff shows up. He has to. Then all of a sudden, I don't know where the rock shows up.

Mike the Rock himself, he calls himself the final boss of wrestling, and they have a standoff. So you have Lily Black Adam in Peacemaker here in the ring. And then at the end of this, a wrestler from our era, The Undertaker, shows up and takes down the rock mic out of out of nowhere. Can you imagine being in the crowd at the mall and all these unannounced people who you know as, like, large wrestling names and actors show up and are just doing things out of nowhere.

Yeah. And it's like, you know, this moment also was big enough to where I was seeing people like, their reactions filmed, like just show up organically in my social feeds. So this kind of broke through just that, kind of wrestling firewall and made it like, just like the common knowledge of the internet. It was pretty wild. Like, I never really got into wrestling as a kid, but every kid, back in the day was in wrestling even just a little bit.

So even though I wasn't into it, I kind of had to be into it no matter what. Yeah. And, So I had kind of just forgotten how much showmanship is actually in the show because you know, when you're playing like the video game, which I think is what a lot of our generation migrated over to, is just playing the game probably more hours and actually watching wrestling. It just kind of becomes in like a Street Fighter type game, and you forget that there's even like a TV show based around it.

That or like a like a Tony Hawk, right? You're trying to get the most points, you're trying to do the most moves kind of thing. Like, yeah, it becomes like you're just hitting the buttons. You're not really paying attention to, quote unquote, the storylines of the the characters. Yeah. And you sent me this clip and we were just on the couch watching something. So I pulled it up on my phone and I was like, oh, wow, this is getting crazy.

And as soon as the clip was over, like, I pause or whatever we were watching, I played it to the TV because I knew my wife had, had a fan, nostalgia for the hit taker. I was like, oh, she's going to love this. And I'm sure it's classic for like, that. Kind of like, Bell to to sound before the lights go black. And then he shows up and then when it goes back off, like they've, they've disappeared. Like he's literally taken him to the underworld.

Like, that is the type of stuff that when you're a kid, there is like a non-zero percent possibility in your head that you think that actually happened. Like, oh, he actually took the rock to hell, like I he is not going to be in any more Fast and Furious movies because he's gone forever and they just filmed it live on TV. I can't believe this actually happened. So seeing that moment now as an adult like it actually, like we're on the whole the, style.

Yeah, it was actually kind of great. I loved it. my wife, had, had a good time watching the clip, but, as far as us, that's all it was. It was just a clip we saw on social media, but it sounds like a ton of other people had fun. Yeah. And it's just it's one of those things, like, I know it's kind of wrestling's been coming back, if you will, like, you know, it ebbs and flows. It's in waves.

so I know it's been coming back, but, you know, I think it was like maybe Monday or something like, I think John Cena in the Rock or like, yeah, we're not doing wrestling for a little bit now. like they came back for like a moment, you know, a couple weeks, and then now they're back off doing movie stuff again, right?

Like, we knew they're not going to go back to wrestling permanently, but to have that drawn to hit all those checkpoints and to have this big quote unquote crossover with these large names, I get the excitement of the people who do love this and watch this regularly. I was like, I get it. I envy you to be able to have this moment and the payoff after all these months or years or however long it's been for them. So, absolutely awesome. I thought that was really fun.

I had to share it with you because I'm like, I like, you're my litmus for this, right? Because we both don't watch wrestling. But I'm like, if I think this is pretty cool, and I got like a stupid grin on my face, maybe Michael. Michael, too. So, that's, I'm glad to do it. So, Awesome. And then you, we have some other stuff we're gonna talk about next week. But, Mike, you looks like you've been diving into a movie and a show yourself here.

Yeah. This is what happens when a brand new show lands on Amazon Prime. And it reminds you. You have an Amazon Prime subscription. So, Chris and I are going to, hopefully review fallout in full, next week. the show, not the games I've played, the game. Mike doesn't have enough time to play the games. Yeah. Which is gonna be really helpful because, Chris is going to have some more contacts that he can, lay on me. So we're going to talk all fallout all next week.

But, in the meantime, my Amazon Prime app is opened. I've been slowly working my way through the second season of invincible, which is great. I don't know why I keep forgetting that invincible is good, but every time I put it back on, I'm reminded. Oh, wow, this is really, really good. but then I'm in the Amazon Prime app, so we're looking for a funny two movie, funny movie to watch last night.

And there's, a film on there called bottoms, which I've heard of before, but, you know, we decided to check it out. And essentially it's like, Booksmart meets Fight Club. throw in with a little bit of, like, satirical comedy on top of that. It's just really, really funny. It's, stupid. It's hilarious. It's just about these two girls that start a fight club at their school so they can hook up with some other girls. It's really, really funny.

a quick watch the movie felt like it was like, you know, 90 minutes. So you're you're in and out. It's hilarious. there's a there's a really funny part at the end of the movie where there's, like, this football scene and they're building up to this big football game and, and, I literally think the movie didn't have enough budget to fill out the other end of the field, like the visitors team stands. So they're totally empty.

So they just I think they just worked it into the script and they turned it into a joke. And it was really, really funny. So the movie just feels like really scrappy. Marshawn Lynch is in it. He's kind of like a supporting, name, I think, to kind of put on the poster, but he's pretty funny in it as well. So, I could highly recommend bottoms. And that, stars is, Ayo and a berry right from the bear. And, she voiced, April O'Neil and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Him as well.

So that's. That's true. Her her career is skyrocketing right now. So she is on the trajectory to hit the dart board of a superhero movie at some point in time. Like that is I feel like. Well, she was she was she was hired in, Thunderbolts. But, due to it being delayed, she and. Oh, yeah, that's right. She she she was she had to back out of that. But I mean, I, you know, obviously those people rescheduled. They're probably going to come back in another movie.

So I, I wouldn't count around either right, in that situation. So, it's just everything got rescheduled but making new stuff. So I, I agree with you. She will be in one of these films sooner than later. It's great. But also, while you have your Amazon Prime open. we just started watching the new Mr. and Mrs. Smith TV show. it's kind of I don't know exactly how heavily it's influence by the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie movie.

I think it's just kind of more just lifting the concept of two spies that are pretending to be husband and wife, which really isn't a wholly original idea. It's like something, you know, that literally happened, like with Russian spies. If you've seen, like, The Americans on FX. Yeah. I don't think I think it was that name only because the difference is that they they already know they're each other spies in this one right out the gate. So, Oh yeah, that's right.

Because in the, in the movie they didn't know yet. Then they became each other like, yeah, they, they became each other's like target. Oh yeah. That's right. It's been a minute since I've watched it. And that's on the spoiler. That's just, you know, how the show sets up and you know, it's been out for two months now. So they they know each other are spies. And I think that adds a dynamic to it.

I've not watched I actually accidentally listened to a review of it, which, you know, again, you know, it sounds like you enjoyed it. So I'm going to say, yeah, at least they enjoyed it. So that's that's yeah, yeah. Stumble across something else I was listening to. So. Absolutely. Yeah. We're a couple episodes in and it's kind of fun watching, Donald Glover. I haven't seen him in a while and something because he's just like this multi-hyphenate that's working on a thousand things.

So, like, sometimes it's music, you know, sometimes it's directing, sometimes he's acting. So it's just kind of nice to see him again. So yeah. Overall, just remember to open up your Amazon Prime Video because you're probably paying for it already. And don't know it. You. So you you've got me thinking here because, well, a couple months ago Amazon announced they're doing ads. You have to watch ads to watch Prime now. are you on the ad free version yet? Because you forget.

I assume you're not in the ad free version. The nice thing is, is I think they are taking that into account whenever they're kind of airing these, like, big kind of movie specials or, you know, their big streaming series because we had commercials in front of our fallout episodes, but nothing ever interrupted in the middle. It was just like 30s in the front and, you know, 30s in the front of the next one. So it seems like they're being cautious of where those go if you're actually paying.

But it was interesting. I was googling the fallout show earlier today, and I landed on kind of like the Amazon homepage, and I think you can watch it absolutely for free because they, they had like the freevee, logo on it. So even if like, you're not an Amazon Prime subscriber, which I, I it's I, I can't think I could throw a rock, you know, in a stadium of people and hit somebody that doesn't have have Amazon Prime but you could watch it on Freevee. It seems like for free. Yeah.

I was like, sometimes I do these first episodes on YouTube for free, like the, you know, the hook in for the first one free because they have, they have a lot of faith in the show, you know, and then that's, you know, that that's awesome. That's great. That means they, they, they really are diving in. So, not see on YouTube, but it is probably I would guarantee you probably that first one's free then, along the way. So, I'm excited to talk about next week.

I like I said, it's just like my son Mikey, this has been one of those weekends where nothing has gone to to schedule, to plan. And as some people may know, I travel for work twice a year, and this is that week as well, coming up. So I'm, just, you know, up to my eyeballs on this. I'm jealous of all this stuff. You gotta you gotta watch, along the way. But I am going to dive into news because I'm not jealous.

Mike. I'm upset at myself, for not knowing this Coca-Cola announced a collaboration with Marvel this week. Or maybe in the week before, so you can go buy Marvel designated Coca Cola cans and Coke and Diet Coke or Coke Zero variety. And they have different characters on them. there's a trailer. They came with this Mike, and I don't know if you've watched this trailer or not. This is absolutely amazing piece of I watching it. I'm watching it right now and it is really funny.

I don't know if it's just because I'm conflating the colors of the two brands together, but Marvel right now, it really does feel like the Coca Cola and DC really feels like the Pepsi. And they're they're very color aligned between their, you know, blues and reds. But I think also in popularity and ubiquitous, it's this makes sense. This pairing is understandable. In this trailer.

You know, it's like, you know, it's this it's all about getting the coke to to one of the characters in there and the people that are in the comic books from the comic book characters come to life. And when they animate them off the page, they look like they're off the comic book page. So when they're moving and and interacting with the the environment around them, like there's a daredevil who looks like he's in watercolor color in, if you will.

there's a couple others throughout, you know, we get to see a cheeky Deadpool, Colossus. It's a really fun trailer. I recommend anyone watch it, even if you're not gonna buy these. If you're gonna drink the Cokes, watch this trailer to see what they could do with comic book art. Mike, if they ever wanted to animate that in a unique style.

Some, I would say it's not similar to Miles, Spider-Verse movies or team, and but it's unique in and of itself, and that goes a lot to show how much love they put in here. and then also, I've got a list of the characters on cans of bottles on Coke. We have blade, cable, Colossus, Daredevil, Deadpool, Elektra, juggernaut, kingpin, Loki, Moon Knight, Nega, Sonic, Teenage Warhead, interesting choice. Wolverine, Nick Fury, storm, Super Skrull, and War Machine.

On Coke Zero, we have Ant-Man, Black Panther, Black Widow, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Groot, Hulk, Iron Man, Miss Marvel, She-Hulk, rocket, Scarlett with Shang-Chi, Star-Lord, Thanos, and Thor. you're going to find Team Coke versus Team Coke Zero fans all throughout this. I think Coke Zero has the best list, but my warning for those of you, Mike, is I bought a 24 pack of Coke Zero because I drink Coke Zero on a house. We keep it for our guests.

We put it in our storage unit when we're not drink. Going through it. Don't think we're going to do it that fast. Believe me, all the cans for one character. Mike I got been had. And I'm so upset at this. so when I was at the store the other day, I spotted these 12 packs and they had, the character, at least on the box. Does the character on the box equate to the cans on the inside? No, because there's multiple characters on the box. When you go and look at the box they went through.

Okay, I bought the 24 of Coke Zero thinking they were all different. I'm really just, you know, get a bunch of them. my wife bought regular coke, a 12 pack, you know, to, to help me out. And when we opened hers, hers was all, I think Daredevil. so, like, when you buy a case, you have to get them all. So now I'm upset thinking I've got. I trade cans, Coke cans with people to get the whole set, and. Yeah, because otherwise you'd have to buy at the very minimum 30 like 30 cases of coke.

They, they do sell them, I think in glass bottles online. I think glass bottles would be interesting. yeah. My desire to collect one of each really died very quickly after I opened that first case, of complete Iron Man's, if you will. So I'm just kind of bummed out, in that regard. What is cool, though, and I will say this, if you have, they have an AR app for this.

And when you put the cans in the cans, like when they're together, they do some cool, animations and artwork and stuff that comes off the cans when you. So they're actually not just collector pieces. They actually have a little interactive functionality as well with the AR stuff, and you can win prizes and stuff in that app. And I thought that was cool, but I'm just so mad they didn't mix and match the cases, make it like, you know how big we are and food stuff and drink stuff.

I thought this would be like right up our alley, but, the kick, kick in the face, but yeah, yeah. let me know. Please let me know if you'll trade me any of them. I will, I will hold you an Iron man and a daredevil. wholeheartedly. If you if you want to trade something for me. So, But. Yeah, keep moving on. This is not CinemaCon. This is outside of Sydney. Come on, Mike, they didn't talk Fantastic Four there, so we're going to jump into it first.

And, Kevin V confirmed fantastic Four will be shot entirely in Imax format. which is cool. That's a great announcement for this movie to be done in Imax and have the format all the way. There will be no, there will probably be scenes where it jumps back and forth between frame rates, but to film all night, it's going to be a different experience overall. Right?

I think that's yeah, I mean, I feel like if anything, that's more of a signal to the audience and just Hollywood in general that like this is a big deal. We need to remind people that when Marvel movies come out, they are supposed to be very big deals. So, I this is cool. I don't necessarily need a marvel movie shot entirely in Imax, but, this is a good signifier to be like, hey, don't forget that we make awesome stuff that you want to see on the biggest screen.

And that's a partnership with Imax as well to do that. So that's an even, I think, a bigger sign right there, not retrofitting it to Imax. They don't have a couple Imax scenes. They're working with Imax to secure those release dates and get these in the theaters, early on that have Imax. I will probably not watch this in Imax, because the theater that has Imax is the, pardon, my French shittiest theater in town. they've updated their seats. They've not done anything.

I just hate it. So, yeah, that really is a bummer. Like you, if you want to indulge in Imax, it's very specific to your region. Like what is closest to you? I mean, I'm not trying to complain. I, I live in Los Angeles, so I have access to some pretty decent Imax screens, but like the like it's either like a hassle to get to them. Like the most convenient theater is always the one closest to you, right? So and the closest Imax to me, like that's where I saw Avatar Way of Water.

And like, there is absolutely no way to get out of your seat once the movie starts going like everyone to the left or right of you has to stand up in order for you to go use the restroom. So I'm not exactly like running to go see things in Imax just due to the convenience factor. So on. That asterisk.

So if you are happen to be pause in your Amazon Prime app and switch back over to your Disney Plus app, you can at least turn on Imax at home to get that full frame so you don't have black bars, which I think is cool. That's right. Yeah. I got, I'm really. Kind of borrow somebody's, Apple Vision Pro, and then I can really take in, in the aspect ratio. Yeah. Jesus. No, don't do that. Don't do any of that stuff. Just just use it on your Disney Plus app.

Just turn it on Imax or select the Imax versions. I and Mike, you know me, I, I keep a library of movies myself. that that I can access. And I actually have an Imax library that I don't share with anybody else because they're in 4K versions. So, I do keep the Imax versions because I do one thing. I think it's cool to take up the whole screen when you have that.

Also, in the Fantastic Four, there's a rumor from Scoopers out there that Franklin Richards will the the son of Reed and Sue, will have a connection to Galactus in this movie. And we've already talked about possibly being an alternate universe, right. With the artwork last week in the the Charlotte Ball Fantastic Four, Earth X was where, Franklin Richards actually became Galactus in the future, of that, universe. Now, I don't think it's going to be Earth X. Exactly.

They may be pulling some inspiration, which is great, but in the Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic Four run in the Marvel 616, probably about ten, probably 15 years ago now, Wolf. there was a version of Franklin Richards who came back from the future, who came back to this timeline, and he was as powerful enough to actually have Galactus be his herald. Instead of the other way around. which is an interesting spec where you can just control a Galactus at your whim, kind of thing.

So I'm interested to see how they do this again. These are all rumors. We don't know anything. They're excited to get in filming, but I'm glad they're kind of again, taking the the snow globe of Fantastic Four. We've seen Galactus, we've seen Doctor Doom, we've seen the Phenix, where? Shake it up a bit. Give us something different before you know you have your big team ups and secret wars along the way. so I'm cool with. I'm really cool.

I can also not recommend Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic Four run enough if you want to have some good, good, solid Fantastic Four comic books in your life. So check those out. CinemaCon 2024. One of the, weirdest conventions, to date. Mike and I always say this because it's for cinema owners to go to, and they're like, all the movie theaters are there to say, hey, we support you as a cinema, right? You know, we get most of our money from you showing our, your, our movie in your theaters.

So this is a lot of industry people for the cinema owners or people who are making merchandise. So we have some merchandise notes in here. along the way, something I couldn't find a bullet point for the AMC theaters, I think head of AMC theaters. Or maybe it's marketing said the Dune popcorn bucket would not have been made if they had known the reaction was going to be like it was to that popcorn bucket. He was like, you sick! Online pirates have ruined this.

But we sold a bunch of them, so we're probably do it again. Yeah, yeah, that's like the dumbest thing. Like, and also that means nobody has any sort of insight into, human nature over at AMC. Like, you can't look at this and make, make a determination. Yeah. So AMC didn't make it. There's another company that made it.

And, actually, I think the company we have it below, for Superman, but, like, you know, the company who made it, like, I don't think they probably had any inclination of, like, they didn't have, like, hey, we're going to make this viral. Hey, we're going to make this on TikTok. Like, they probably just made something.

And then it just kind of blew up and now they're like, I feel like they're going to rest on their laurels a bit and we're going to see a lot of the same stuff, and that's going to be the disappointing factor in all of this. I like nobody wants it actually gross per verse popcorn vessel. Man, you just got lucky. It was a dune worm. Like, make something creative for us. I'm going to have to tell my kid.

back in the day, we didn't have these, sophisticated, injection molded plastic forms that you could display on LEDs. The movie was over. We had, like, a thin tin bucket at best, that maybe had, like, a holographic label on it. And that's about as far as it went.

So what I'm going to do is I'm going to order on Amazon some of those, really cheap paper popcorn bags that they serve at, like high school concessions and, put those in a time capsule for you and your future child, like, so we can open those and, and be like, you remember when things were just paper and, you know, we just threw him away because we're here. Here's a thousand of them. So, but.

Yeah, but, the dune popcorn bucket did come up there because obviously it didn't take off, like a wildfire earlier this year. But let's get into the superhero movie news here. And the first is we're gonna have with Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts is filming. Right. We talked about this, with Florence Pugh's video on set the other day. And Kevin Feige has said that the Asterix in the name is actually there. They show the title card and it will be revealed in the movie.

So they will not talk about the Asterix until the movie comes out. that. Wait. So wait, so are they saying, like, when they print, like the action figures or the the popcorn bucket, the label is going to say Thunderbolts with an asterix on it, and then the Asterix is going to be like a joke in the movie. That is. I don't know if it's a joke or if it's just like a reference to something else, like in there, but yes, it will have the Asterix I'm trying to pull up.

the image using Google Image search time within the past week and see what I can pull. Yeah. So, I'm actually going to send you this, this image, Mike, so you can see that it is in there. It's not even like a normal like, it's like, like an asterix in the upper right, like a footnote kind of thing. So I guess they're not going to retitle it or give it a subtitle like I, I'm curious what the what the reasoning is and I it makes it.

If I just had to make, Marvel guess a humor or maybe point in the movie is maybe they're all being recruited. They have to sign like a form or something. And then it says like, oh, you all, sign here to acknowledge that you're formally be joining the team known as, like, the Thunderbolts. And there's an Asterix and somebody goes like, what's this Asterix mean? And then somebody makes a joke, and then they're look at the all the way at the bottom of the form.

And the Asterix says, like, I don't know something, but that, that that would be my guess. I just don't, I don't know why it would be there. Other like, well, I've heard it's kind of, you know, a heavier movie, but I would imagine that was like maybe a comedy movie. But the rumor is it's going to kind of tie in to our next point here, that it could be more of a Dark Avengers setup.

where, you know, General Ross, who is now the president, I guess President Ross, in the upcoming Captain America Brave New World, is trying to create his own Avengers, and he probably can't use Avengers or, you know, he's going to use Avengers. But like, after this movie, at the end of it, you'll find out that they were recruited into, I guess, his Avengers or something like that. Maybe, you know, the maybe the president, president Ross, you sign the Thunderbolts. Asterix.

Thunderbolts is, a copyright owned by General Thunderbolt Ross. And you now work for him? Kind of deal? Maybe so. Well, yeah, there's something that could be there. I do like the idea, though, of, maybe a governmental organization trying to, co-opt the word Avengers. And then there's like, there's stark industry like lawyers that show up and they're just like, no, no, no, we own. This comic, but a bunch of pre-paid people like, you know, holding that down kind of deal. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

So yeah, I, I'm excited for Thunderbolts. Obviously. it's coming out May 5th, 2025. so we're a little almost two years. No where you're way. Shoot. That is that was soon. I thought it was I forgot I forget how how close we are to to thunderbolts. So, the facts in the Masons pretty good. I'm excited to see this and hopefully get some more, costume images later.

We don't have them now, but I would love to see some of the characters in their new costumes because as we know, every superhero movie, they get minor alterations along the way, and I love to check those out. Next up is Captain America Brave New World. Mike. this movie is going, undergoing or possibly has undergone extensive reshoots after the Marvel Studios retooling, what, 6 to 8 months ago now, I guess in the in last summer. but some new images.

They showed off some clips from the movie and, one of them, he's, General Ross, now played by Harrison. President Ross, played by Harrison Ford, is telling Anthony Mackie. So he wants to rebuild the Avengers. You know, in that regard. this image is interesting. Looking at this. We get a picture of Harrison Ford across from Anthony Mackie in his, dark blue Captain America suit. We've gone from the white back to the the Winter soldier.

Look, when I went and looked and looked at the, there's a set photo behind the scenes set for these two on set. Harrison Ford's hair is not cut like that in that set. So I don't know if maybe they cut his hair in the reshoots, to do that. Oh, and then Anthony Mackie's arm plates are not metallic. They look more rubber. Now, that could be for filming to make them white. Thank you. The metallic in the shots here.

But not a lot to pull out of this, but I am excited to to see the first trailer for this to get some word on those changes, what they were, and what we can expect in this movie along the way. I mean, these are all great questions because we kind of know that this movie is unique compared to any other kind of Marvel movie to come out that this has seen the most like extensive, like retooling. Right?

I mean, we'll obviously never know entirely what happens, you know, behind the veil over there at Marvel Studios. But it's that came out, it seemed like from the reports that people weren't digging it. And that historically is not something that they faced a lot. And we know 5G has kind of been praised as the guy that can, like, save a movie, you know, in post-production, in the editing room. And the fact that that seems like it couldn't be done and they had to go back at it.

You know, you always remind people, Chris, on this show that, reshoots are always in the budget. They're already there, they're always scheduled and ready to go. But this has kind of elevated past just normal reshoots. So I am curious how this changes. You know. To your point, I would tell you, say two things. Number one, your first thing about, audience, you know, I think I think the reaction was metal and you can't have metal anymore, right? You can't do just okay, content.

because that that's not what people expect. That's not what drives people to the theaters. You need you need to bring your A-game. you know, b pluses probably won't even kind of make you need at least an A minus to get people in theaters. So you don't you don't even need to sneak into the into the boardroom. Disney. Bob Iger has, publicly announced pretty much every chance he can to people that like, we are going to return to quality with our studio movies.

So he's saying the quiet part out loud. You know, we don't have to like exactly the fact that they are trying to make these movies better. And like you said, Chris, they can't afford middling. They need great box office successes every time they go to the mat. Right. And if the test viewers are just middle of the road, that's that's not good, right? You want them to to to leave excited or at least having some sort of feelings, towards it.

I would say the other thing against you know, you mentioned Kevin for you fixing things in post. I think he is fixing it in post. The post is just a lot longer than we anticipated. Right. the post includes turning the camera back. Yeah. And and this movie did come out of the, the other Bob, era of movies, right? Yeah. This was a Jpeg announced movie. It fed out of the this show, Captain America, and that Captain Falcon and Winter soldier, you know, kind of leans into this a little bit.

So, like, it comes out of that era so much like Daredevil Born again, you know, you have to. They went back to the drawing board, and maybe they're not going back to the drawing board completely, but my guess is they're refined. They brought up the idea of Winter soldier quite a bit when they were talking about this, because it's a ten year old movie this month. So knowing that Winter soldier was ten years ago, they're coming back out with this next year.

They need to recapture that energy, if you will. And, you know, let them take their time, let them do their work, let them find that that, that greatness in here and put that forward, even if it takes again, it has been, I think was delayed a whole year, wasn't supposed to come out this May or the summer. So absolutely take your time to give us something quality rather than just another, yeah, if we did it kind of deal. So let's do that. So check out those that image here in the show notes.

moving on another I think it was like a bunch like ten plus minutes of Deadpool was shown to the audience. Mike and I'm jealous of these people who get to see this. they've Deadpool, Wolverine. So some of the stuff on site early on, it's and we come before this, they shut off the movie collector cups, showing off a fully masked Hugh Jackman's Wolverine outfit, and then also Deadpool, which isn't much of a difference compared to, you know, his previous suit. I mean, I know there are changes.

He does get a new suit, but yeah, when you look at Deadpool, you're looking for the red mask with the black eye covers, right. And that so so he's got that. They've got that, they filmed a, a clip specifically for this where they were like they were using some, some cuss words and like, Deadpool is like, oh, you can't believe we got this cameo in this movie before he says it. Wolverine or, you know, Hugh Jackman, like, pushes them out of the frame or something like that and stuff like that.

So they've been having a lot of fun with this movie, and I'm, I'm excited for the fun, the spontaneity and like the riffing of this film to kind of come out later. This some from that then Kevin fight. You also said, hey, we're going to do some real crude popcorn vessels for this. And I'm like, damn it, that's what I don't want eat. I don't want to hear that. That's predictable. Give me something un, predictable. Yeah. I feel like I've already been seeing.

I don't know if it's the dog or the the tail wagging the dog, but I've seen lots of popcorn buckets that might be generated by AI, but. Or just maybe all all artwork looks like I know to me of some possible popcorn. Is it is it the one where the mouth. The mouth is on the side? Yeah. So that was that was passage. That's boss logic doing it. so so he he did pathologic shared that pretty early on this week, with the Deadpool Wolverine one.

I mean, I don't know what they're going to do with this, and I'm not excited about it because the idea is we want to make one that's offensive. That is where I'm kind of concerned. Right? You can't force, a virality, you know, in the clip in things you buy, you can't just say, hey, make it go viral to your marketing team, and then it works. So, but thankfully we do have the brains, you know, we have Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, Stoinis. He's not really associated with the crudeness.

So that contrast is awesome. Shawn Levy is really, you know, putting his best foot forward for this film. So we have some opportunity here. But hopefully it's not just made in a silo. And then they don't tell anyone until is released. And yeah, and AMC has literally thousands of them, on their shelves for the next two years because no one bought them along the way. So, I'm excited for Deadpool. Wolverine. We have it coming out.

What, July this year? Mike. so we are we are on on the summer's eve for that, but we're going to wrap up marvel and shift over to some DC news. We haven't had a lot of DC news, and this week and I know this might not be semicolon, but I know they probably should have it soon. The Joker two trailer dropped and I almost forgot about this because everything else has really consumed my news feed rather than the Joker stuff along the way.

Yeah, that, a part of me made me, like, a little bit concerned. I saw the trailer, I liked it, it looks. It looks crazy. It looks fun. It looks like a perfect sequel that came off of the first Joker. But, you're right in a sense of like, I haven't heard anyone talking about it. You know, nobody is like, making memes about it. I haven't seen any screenshot shared any like, deep dive, like, oh, look at these Easter eggs type thing.

I'm sure they exist out there, but they're they're not cracking through into my, feed. What? One of the things I would say to that is this is very much a teaser trailer along the way. There's no story points, right? It's very much a bunch of quick clips and some music, but but continue. Yeah, but this feels like something where we do do we even need more of this? Like, need more like advertising in a way. Right. Like this trailer is enough for me. I already plan on seeing it.

It just reminded me like, oh, yeah, I really liked the first movie. You know, the first movie had a little bit of a of a reality to it. You were talking about earlier, the popcorn buckets. because it wasn't out yet. Everyone thought it was going to be the fall of society. Who was going to go see the Joker movie? And then they're going to go out into the streets and like, vandalized cars or something.

And then really, everyone came out of the theater going like, oh, we need better mental health care in this country. So it seems like this is just, mental health care part two. please pass some sort of a budget for this. with that, It seems like in this teaser, Harley Quinn is a patient at the hospital rather than a doctor like her normal origin story is where she's a psychiatrist, Harley Quinn, who works with the Joker. It seems like she's actually a patient there at the hospital.

Right. So, which is a little different. And, you obviously we've talked about, is this a musical? Is it or not? It sounds it's a jukebox musical with a bunch of popular songs. there is a very popular song, like, I guess an acapella version or a lighter version, if you will, over this, trailer. But my concern is MC when I said Harlequins a patient, they're, played by Lady Gaga, who is a musician. Is it a fakeout? Is is Joker two in his head?

The whole movie, rather than actually being things that happen? Because if you remember the first one, there's a fake out scene with from Deadpool two as Easy Beats, who is like his love interest, and he fancies that she feels the same. She doesn't like he breaks into her apartment and you come to find it's all in his head. So like, is is she a fake out is like he sees her and then he creates a story in his head. yeah.

Because the trailer is really is really organized in that way because we see shots of like, Harley Quinn and Joker dancing out in the city streets, and then it cuts through them dancing in like an insane asylum ward, you know? So yeah, this could just be one big, like, giant kind of, like, prank on everyone who just like, oh, you think you're about to go see, like, a movie where Joker escapes from prison and goes out and does more Joker stuff.

It's like, oh, no, he's just having all of this in his head. I mean, that would be like a kind of, an interesting structure to the movie, if maybe that's like the first act, you know, it's just all in his head. And then they actually do breakout, and then the audience is not entirely sure. Wait, are they out? Are they still in there? And then maybe even Joker doesn't even realize he's out in the real world.

Yeah. To me, my my mind went to, that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where he's at the same time and he thinks he's a detective there. I have the name of a lost that someone's probably yelling at me, and I'm gonna get some text tomorrow morning about you talking about shutter shutter island. It's like Shutter Island needs, that awful Zack Snyder movie that he wrote and directed, which is called Sucker Punch.

Yeah. Which one? Yes. Sucker punch, because Sucker Punch was very, you know, heavily on the musical. I think, you know, the music seems to be a heavy, important thing. So I think it will have those musical elements. But I think maybe it's a mixture of real life things and fantasy at the same time. Right. Like maybe, maybe it's not all in his head.

Maybe it's not all real, but like, maybe it's a mix of both of them, or even could be Joker two being like, maybe the viewpoint isn't from, you know, Arthur Fleck's point of view. Maybe it's from Harley Quinn point of view. The movie is instead of his so we could we could see we could be surprised. it Denzel Washington's made me realize I have not watched the first Joker since I watched it in theaters.

Like, that movie is emotionally draining through and through, and you've got to really be, probably walk out in the daylight afterwards after watching that, because you're not going to want to go to bed happy, after watching that movie. So I might need to cue that one back up and, and take a look. Is that on Amazon? Probably not. It could be. You mentioned, off off air in our personal tax. Literally. David Zaslav will license any movie to any streamer. Right now. The Batman is on Tubi.

I think you showed me. yeah. The Batman, the, the Suicide Squad is on there. ever. I think I saw Green Lantern on there. It seems like they don't care. Like we don't need to worry about exclusives. if Tubi wants to buy it, I want the money. Yeah, we need we need the money real bad. I'm going to put the Joker and just watch. We like to get, Netflix Max, Max on Prime and Netflix with ads so you can watch it if you have Netflix or Max right now.

So, it seems like it's part of that, that streaming service over there. Moving on. Superman James Gunn is not at this convention, but he did send in a video and he was able to show off, the logo of Superman, which we kind of seen halfheartedly covered in snow. the someone took it, enhanced it here for this image we're looking at, it's very much a flash across the chest rather than a, an S at the end of the day, if you will. But, it looks fine.

I've got no qualms here, Mike. Any as a designer, do you do you feel strongly about this? I don't really have any strong opinions about it. I mean, once you have so many incarnations of the character kind of rebooted, you got to just start from a new direction. They'll be a well, within our lifetimes. They'll be another incarnation of Superman on the big screen, where they go back to, like, the original original logo and they'll. Go, wow, what is the big cursive S? Yeah, yeah.

And you know, this comes from the comic books again, I think from the Kingdom Come logo. So nothing this original at the end of the day over there where they're taking comic books and putting them into to live action. So that's that's nothing new here. But the other part of notes, the same company who created the Dune popcorn bucket, which I think is working for Warner Brothers, is working on merch for this film. So, I can actually, I love my popcorn vessels.

I need to start running that in because I can't buy them all. I only buy the cool ones. The Ghostbusters, frozen in Paris. It sounds like they're all about to be really, really cool. So you better buy another house. I'm going to have to get another room. Here are my sex dungeon. Popcorn vessels. because. Because they're all raunchy and crude. so, I mean, that's cool. I mean, well, I was thinking about what's Superman merch.

I guess they'd probably make his, like, maybe the either the Ice fortress would be the vessel, right? You lift up the ice crystals and you're opening your vessel, and it probably lights up. Or maybe. Is it? yeah. In the shape of his. His crest. Like a just a diamond shaped thing that's kind of extruded. So that holds popcorn. What would you put. What would you what Superman popcorn bucket would you give a mic if you could?

I just love that this one just random manufacturing company has made a whole name for itself by just making something that looks, looks naughty and probably not even by their choice. They probably just like, threw out a couple ideas for for designs. Warner Brothers are just like, yeah, let's make one of the worm. And then they made it. And now all of a sudden they're getting all of these inquiries to make more popcorn buckets. It's like we just mold plastic.

There's nothing special going on here. What's even crazy is they probably made the cheapest one because the bottom of that bucket, it's just a metal tin that you mentioned at the top of the show. And this sits on the metal ten like the worm thing does. So it's not even like a custom mold. Like, are the top like the bottoms just a regular popcorn bucket? So, I hope they make something cool. I can I have like one of the. I think it was maybe one of the cups from The Flash. because I thought.

I thought maybe it was cheap, I don't remember, I didn't buy something expensive, but I need to to to to to work on getting those. But if you guys have any good ideas for the Superman popcorn vessels, let us know. We are here to hear your ideas. If you have a drawing, bonus points along the way. this was I don't think it was similar kind of thing. It might have been in social media, Mike, but I'm included in here because Peacemaker Season two officially started filming this week.

That's why we talked about John Cena at the top of the show. and there's a photo from James Gunn because obviously he's not directing Superman, right? He's got to go to, peacemaker. But here's a photo of, the back of the shiny helmet of peacemaker taken by James Gunn, and he is confirmed that he is at least directing, season one of the the series coming back. So. Yeah. Episode one, I think is what you meant. Yeah. Episode one. Sorry. Episode one of season two. Sorry.

Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. He's just kind of getting it, kind of getting it up to snuff. I mean, we talked about season one of peacemaker. Peacemaker kind of hoping that maybe peacemaker, hoping that there is maybe a little bit less of Gunn in it. Like it seems like he's getting a little too self-indulgent. Kind of like a, like a Taika Waititi type of move. And like, we great, we love the creativity. But like, I mean, we dial it back just a little bit more.

Warheads are better than one, right? Like that's what we always say. Stuff like that. All the good Marvel, all the great Marvel stuff with two directors and two writers, like. Right. Like a team of four did all the great stuff over there. So, not saying that he can't do it, but I also see him directing at least the first episode. I did see that, there's like a break in filming on regular, on Superman and actor David Corn. So was like doing some commercials down in Mexico or something like that.

And someone thought he met, who posted. I was like, oh, I met Henry Cavill because apparently he looks so much like Henry Cavill now with all the Superman muscles and haircut. So, I thought that was pretty funny. But yeah. Peacemaker season two, the great. That's good news. This is you know, a continuing part of the DCU, that will move forward that I'm happy we get. Right. This was that was a really fun time on the first, first season.

So, and everyone wants to know what song and intro dance will this show have for season two? Yes. I don't know. we'll we'll keep, we keep our fingers crossed as that probably comes out. probably best case next year, probably about a year from now. last Warner Brothers. But here I have is for Lord of the rings. If you don't remember, they have rights to to some of that, I'm pretty sure. And they're doing an anime called War of the road. Hiram. and it confirms it is coming out later this year.

They didn't have anything, I think, other than this image. Right, that I had, shared here. this is old image. I don't even think this came out of the, you know, send semicolon. But, for people who don't know whether here is an anime movie set in the Lord of the rings universe, the historical before any of the actual books kind of going on. So, anime is big right now. I, I mean, I can't, I can't knock, it's everywhere. Everyone's doing an anime thing, so, I guess Lord of the rings.

And it was only time before they got one. Yeah, it seems like, I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that this was also going to be released on Netflix. Just because Netflix seems to be the home of anime adaptations of any random thing that makes money. So, I'm not trying to be harsh, but I probably won't be watching this unless it breaks through the zeitgeist and gets so popular that you know it becomes a must watch.

But I feel like this is just going to fall down the rabbit hole of like, what? There was like anime adaptation of like, there's like a blade. There's like a Blade Runner thing that people liked. I never watch, there's like, there's tons of, like, Godzilla stuff out there. I'm just not watching any other. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I go to the theater to watch this. I guess it's my thing. I will watch it, but I don't need to go to the theater to watch it.

At the end of the day, this is something I feel would be very. I'd be very comfortable watching it at, at home, for that. So I hopefully we can see some more of this stuff to see later. Again, this is not a it's not a retelling of anything in the Lord of the rings books. So that's a plus. It'll be new stuff, but it is wild because Amazon does have the other Lord of the rings license. That's why they're doing the prequel show, right? The, power of the Rings of Power.

Yeah. So, absolutely all over the place with, if you're if you're Lord of the rings fan, you're you're you're back for for more here, shooting the Paramount stuff. Sonic the Hedgehog three is, obviously being filmed. We've talked about this before. It does. It's confirmed that shadow of the Hedgehog will be the villain. there's some posters of, you know, a Shadow the Hedgehog shadow across some big cities and some posters.

But also, they did confirm in a clip Jim Carrey is returning, but he will be carb obsessed Doctor Robotnik, meaning he is taking on his Eggman look that we know him from the video games throughout this, all right? And that can be kind of fun. Yeah, I think I think I don't know if the clip was cut for it or something, like, I think it might have been cut for the show, where he does mention that he was, you know, looking a little larger than he's just been eating a lot of carbs lately.

And I'm like, well, that's pretty that's pretty on the nose. That's pretty good, at least. Like, they didn't just give him a fat suit and say, explain it next, next time out of nowhere. So, I'm excited for for more that and then also, it's done in here. But, for those who are fans, this I believe it's next month. or end of April, we are going to get, knuckles, the TV show on Paramount Plus. So those fans of that. That's right. We get more and more Sonic, throughout the coming months.

Monarch legacy of monsters. Mike. I don't know if you've caught this on Apple TV plus yet, but the second season has been announced, for the show. So they're working on that. I'm I'm I'm a big fan for season. It has no weight, over Godzilla, King Kong, the new Empire movie that just came out like there's no real connection there. They made sure like, you don't have to watch the TV show to understand the movie, and vice versa. So that's pretty exciting.

But I'm excited for more of this, show coming down the pipeline from Apple TV as it. Yeah, it makes me angry. I'm I'm kind of curious, what is the long term strategy for Godzilla here in the United States? It seems like, Japan just kind of makes whatever whenever they seem to be maybe less obsessed with turning something into, like, consistent, ongoing franchise. And it's just like, well, let's just make cool Godzilla stuff. Oh, no. Once in a. While.

No, no, no no, if you there are probably 50 Godzilla films in Japan. and they go through eras of studio, are they? Yeah. But what I'm trying to say is it is is it a consistent, connected universe? Yes. It is interconnected characters. So silly. Yeah. So there are, there are three, I think three areas of Godzilla right now. We are not in one right now. They do not have one Godzilla minus one is a standalone. And Shin Godzilla was was. Well, those were actually the two that I was thinking of.

But the two most recent, kind of like critically acclaimed ones don't really have ties, or it's not like I've heard of a Shin Godzilla two or Godzilla minus two, you know? Right? Right. And that's fine. But like. But before those two, all they were were franchises. They they put out a Godzilla movie every year for like 15 years. Take a break, then do another like ten. because they would do like they have these, I don't know if it's a studio or the director. I don't know how they do it.

It's like the, the like the shoto era and another one, they they would just do this Godzilla versus all these different enemies and kind of like the, the American movies. They were kind of serious. And then they would get kind of, you know, more fantastical because, like, you can't keep it serious the whole time. But it's very much the opposite of the new to the Shin Godzilla and the guys on my show.

But beforehand, they were very much a ten movie franchise before they even, you know, took a brain on it. I was about to say, could an American audience, withstand this much onslaught of, Godzilla universe? But then I think, oh, it's probably the same people that are going to the Fast and Furious movies that'll just go see. I just think King Kong will do on the big screen.

I just, I don't know, I didn't go see any Fast and Furious movies, but I will watch Godzilla versus Kong I and so especially on Apple TV plus here, I think it's great. And you brought this up in another chat earlier this week is Apple TV plus is like sci fi central on TV shows, right? Like like they are known for all their sci fi content. Was that you brought that up this week? no, but I kind of believe it like.

I. Have. yeah, they have the, old kind of, like, executive that used to run HBO over at Apple Plus right now. So it's kind of like the home for just a more, thought provoking content. But this is my this is a long way of, saying, like, what's the end game for Godzilla and King Kong? You know, like, if the Apple Plus TV show takes off, you know, we could have, like, five, six seasons. Does that end up outliving any sort of like, mainline Godzilla King Kong movies that are going on?

I'm just kind of curious. Like, it doesn't seem to be very organized. Yeah, well, and that's the thing. Like, it's not one company making this right. Like, Apple's making this. Warner Brothers is making the other one. was it, was it Netflix had that Kong Skull Island animated show that nobody watched last year? every everybody legendary's licensing this out like it's nobody's business.

However, legacy of monsters in the movies do have connected pieces, but they don't have to. Like you don't have to be like, oh, I've got to watch these in order afterwards. Legacy monsters can have more Titans and just Godzilla TV. That's why it's not called Godzilla, like monarch Legacy of Godzilla or Legacy of Kong.

They have other Titans in the show and the people there, and it's really I get, I really, I think it's only gonna get maybe three seasons because Apple TV+, they're not really doing a lot of, what, 4 or 5 seasons like Netflix is doing. Like they're going about three per before they cancel. So I imagine two more seasons. But I think the show, the movie is making enough money. It's doing some some box office stuff. It's, you know, popcorn flicks. I think we'll see a little bit more.

But we are probably do. When, when did the first Gareth Edwards Godzilla come out 2014 ish. So right now I think I'm a ten. Year sounds right. So we're probably on a, we're due for a Godzilla reboot in probably five years, right? 29, 20, 29 I would say they're they're going to be wrapped up with this stuff and be like, all right, we'll either take a break or take a Shin Godzilla approach. If you will, which is a a remaster of kinds.

But if you're a fan of the legacy monsters like I am, I love it. It's on Apple TV. Plus, you're gonna get season two coming up. Moving on. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles this is the wildest news I read all week, Mike. And you got to tell me what you think here, because this is just blow my mind. A live action adaptation of The Last Ronin graphic novel has been announced. I never thought we'd see a live action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles again. Like, after the 90s.

work they did with the animatronics, right? an adaptation of The Last Ronin, which is one of the darkest, most depressing stories in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe. And this will be R-rated and exist in Paramount's horror films division. Wow. Well, Chris, I hate to break it to you, but we are in a different era of live action turtles.

And if you were to Google, live action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the first row of images you're going to see are the Michael Bay executive produced films. So the turtles of the 90s, you have to add the extra search term of the 90s to get to it. So live action can mean something a little different nowadays. So I. Went right to the animatronics because like, that's so much of. And that would be cool. I mean, like that's the audience that you're going for, right?

I feel like if you're doing a rated R, Tmnt adaptation, but I mean, this is really, really cool. I love this idea. Super rad. I mean, it feels like they know that the audience is there. They can kind of like carve off like this subgenre of going like dark and gritty, you know, Deadpool's coming back to the marketplace. I'm sure it's going to bring in a lot of money. This will just be more and more reinforcement for studios. Joker two back into rated R. Yeah, exactly.

Lean back into your rated R content. I still have the last Ronin book just sitting on my Amazon wishlist, convincing myself I'll buy it one day and read it. so it seems like a really cool story to add, but yeah, the live action sounds rad. Yeah, it's rated R are going to have tons of blood. It sounds like, dismemberment by. Turtle that that book is pretty gruesome. So absolutely. Yeah, it's going to be and.

Also like that would that's something that we don't really often get to witness is just like they're massive fighters, like a, a turtle the size of a human carries a lot of mass and force and momentum. Like, imagine that fighting like a human being or like, you know, a normal ninja like that would be super rad and like, cathartic to kind of see that, action play out on screen.

Like, I'm almost kind of imagining when Ben Affleck was Batman and you got to see him, like, go toe to toe with some of those that those like shrimpy goons occasionally, that times ten. So I'm of course, I'm excited for this is really cool. In the fact that they explicitly say it's in the horror film section means they're going to kind of lean into that, right? Like how it is, it is not a happy ending story at the end of the day, along the way. And so I, I'm excited to see them lean into that.

Not necessarily it's horror, but like gore, body horror, maybe, you know, stuff like that along the way. Yeah. Now I'm not going to get too precious. I think we're talking about maybe some other paramount things here, coming up as well. we do know it seems paramount seems to be actively trying to sell itself. So if that ends up happening, all of these things could be shelved, depending by whoever is, the new owner.

This could just all be a scheme to goose the selling price of, like, hey, we have all of this stuff. You got to pay more for us if you want to own us. Who knows? Or maybe nobody wants to buy them and they're just trying to make themselves look more attractive. Like, please, any offers.

So someone mentioned, I thought maybe it was this week, maybe at this convention that the CEO or the president or something was like, I know you probably heard about some stuff, but we're here to make movies and, you know, support cinema. So he's either saying that we're not selling that. Was this all rumors or B it's not working out for us. So we're here to here for the long haul, like you just mentioned. So, I mean, that's exactly what somebody would say if they were trying to.

Touch the point out. But they did announce a lot of stuff. And not only Sonic the Hedgehog turtles, we're to talk. Transformers one the movie, the animated CG animated movie that's coming out later this year, tells the origin story of how Optimus Prime and Megatron were buddies. And then they were not buddies all of a sudden, said voice of, Chris Hemsworth is Optimus Prime. oh my gosh, I can't think of the actor's name. It was voicing Megatron. Scarlett Johansson's in here is another character.

Like they got some A-list actors to be voice actors in this movie for that, they showed off a little clip of, like, the logo, but I'm like, that's nothing like I don't need a transforming Transformers. One logo is fine. but it's still shooting for a September release. I'm going to see a trailer for this. Mike. some I liked rise of the beast as it was, but I was disappointed because I really want to be like, I really want to be source. They really shafted this on those characters.

So hopefully this can give us some good stuff because as we've talked about in animation, CG animation, whatever, they can do more with the characters, right? We can see a lot more transforming than if they're just doing it in a live action film. The whole way. Another Michael Bay, franchise getting more life here, if you will. But, on top of all this, I mentioned G.I. Joe at the top of the show, and you're like, why, Chris, why are you talking to the the fine? The actuality of Transformers G.I.

Joe crossover film has been announced for Paramount. Mike. The live action one, a sequel to rise of the beast where It Ended, where they were like, call me if you want to join us. And he gives him a card, and then he walks away into the GI Joe Walker. or base, if you will. That shows everything. So the Transformers and the Joes will be teaming up on this next movie. Mike. wow. So it wasn't it wasn't just a veiled threat. Yeah. Even though we've not had a G.I.

Joe origin film in this universe yet, which would be great to have before we jump into this crossover. But, you know, Transformers movies are there billion there, several billion dollar franchise at this point? G.I. Joe really hasn't come back. you know, they tried those two movies, one with the Rock and one with, I can't I mean, just like. Just in anything. Does G.I. Joe have any cultural impact outside of, like, toys, older generations?

I mean, yeah, I can't even think of like, is there like a is there a new animated version of G.I. Joe that's trying to get kids sucked in? I didn't really GI Joes were like a little two before my time. So like, what are they just trying to get like Gen X dollars here? I don't really understand the relevancy of G.I. Joe anymore, but I mean, I mean, you own it. I guess you got to go ahead and start using it and, you know, synergize it with Transformers is probably the best strategic decision.

Yeah, I'm looking at it as a, an 83 TV series, which is one that we know a movie in 87 and a 1989 TV series, and that's about it. so, so no, really, they've just been selling toys and, you know, the, the, big pro-military push of the 70s and 80s is not as, prevalent as it is today. So G.I. Joe is not there. I mean, I know they sell a lot of toys. Hasbro still releases a lot of toys for that nostalgia factor.

But like, you know, I remember was the first movie where they made the suits that let them run fast with, Channing Tatum and whatever. And then the second one was a little more, you know, focus on, like, you know, actual, like, military stuff and espionage, which is cool, but like, yeah, like, I don't the only thing I can think of when I think of GI Joe, Mike is pork chop sandwiches because of those voiceovers of the animated show from 83. That is true.

GI Joe to at least our generation is just really a meme. And I got to imagine to the generation younger than us, they're like, what is GI Joe? I don't understand what you're even talking. What? What does that mean? What is GI? What is it, GI Joe? Why? Why is this even a thing so absolutely. So maybe. Maybe they can use. They can use us in by using Transformers first. right. The people like, oh, Transformers. I know what those are. and then the introduce people to GI Joe before they go.

I mean, you've talked me back around, Mike. You talked me out of an origin because no one would watch it, and then this would be dead immediately. so that is coming. Well, we'll let you know more about this. as Mike called it, threat as as we get closer to its release. two, two things in space here. We'll last one for Paramount is Star Trek. They've announced a prequel movie. is, officially in, I guess, probably early pre-production for a 2025 release.

This will be a prequel set, I think 40, maybe 50 years before the 2009 Star Trek movie, which is the split of the timelines of the movies. If you remember the Kelvin timeline movie, so it won't have any of those actors. it'll be, you know, maybe the history of, like, how Earth got into Starfleet, I guess along those ways. I don't know.

The great part about this is it'll be directed by Tony Haynes, who was directed episodes of Doctor Who, Black Mirror and, Andor as well some of the popular, episodes of Andor. So a lot of these Andor act, I guess production members the past few weeks have been getting really good jobs along the way, based on their work. So I don't know what you do with Star Trek, in my opinion. I didn't grow up with Star Trek. the the closest kind of connection I have to it is probably the J.J.

Abrams movies, which I'm sure will send shivers down the spines of, like, people I grew up with the next generation. That was my first experience of Star Trek. I literally, I missed all of the Star Trek shows, all of the movies until the 2009 movie myself. So, like, I have no, don't a star I have. No, I'm not precious about this property, as we've talked about before, right? Neither of us are like, oh, Star Trek, we have to protect Star Trek. I'm like, no. Yeah, do what you want with it.

Yeah. And that's really just been left out on a vine to kind of rot, right? I mean, that when those movies were coming out, that was like Chris Pine at his, like, heights, right? I mean, he was and kind of still is the one of the Hollywood Chris. Right. So, and there was all this talked about like a possible, like, Tarantino version of the movie. And then that third installment came out, like, really far after the second one. And people were kind of confused what they were even supposed to be.

Oh, wow. So I don't know. The second one. I know what you do. The second one got panned horribly right, even though it's got a great cast. Benedict Cumberbatch, J.J. Abrams couldn't write an original script. It's like he couldn't save a remake of Wrath of Khan and save his life in that situation. and it was so badly panned. They, they got gun shy. Then they did. The third one had Idris Elba in it that came back. It made some money, got some good critic reaction,

but they've just done nothing with the movies, right? For a while. Then they've been making TV shows, discovery and what was it, Lower decks and oh. There's so I think there's like five different Star Trek shows on Paramount. And a lot of those. Them, but a lot of them are wrapping up. Right. So a lot of those have run their five season arcs or do wrapping things up, brave new worlds, you know, is is taking off.

So like, it is like they need to do something with the movies, get them back in the cinema. But is a prequel the answer? Like, why is that always the first thing people jump to, right? Like why not? You've already proven you can do split timelines. You've got different.

you know, TV shows going on here like they've they never shied away from taking the next generation of the original cast and putting them in a movie like, give us a Star Trek movie that maybe ties all of us in together at some point. I don't, I don't know, but a prequel to me is not the answer. My first answer to solve a problem of like, what do we do? How do we make Star Trek four? We go back and make Star Trek Zero. Mike at the.

I, I, I do like the idea of maybe, looking at the origin of Starfleet, maybe a little bit more. Because to me, I think that's very interesting. You know, we kind of take it for granted when you get dropped into a Star Trek universe that everything's a utopia and there's like a 3D printer that can make you anything that you want. And there's teleportation, like, be kind of ready to go back in no time before maybe some of that stuff didn't exist or they just started inventing it.

What are the ramifications of all of it? You know, that'd become that'd be kind of fun. It is different in that regard, I think. I think you're right. There is a different expectations of the characters in society. Maybe we open up to this, but at the same time I'm like, what if it's already there? We already know it. You don't have to explain it to us. We don't need to reason. Just move forward. I think we're gonna get a lot. I think we're gonna get a lot

of explanations in this prequel movie of how things work in the universe. So, It's fine. They got a good team. Star Trek needs to come back to cinema, so I'm all for it. Lastly, Star Wars news Mike, Star Tours, one of my favorite rides and Star Wars has been my favorite ride for 20 years, if not more. since they put it in there. yeah, they have star tours at California. Play some of that Star Wars. Yeah, they do, they do. Cool.

so there are new updates to Star Tours, including The Mandalorian, within journey. Grogu, you, from Ahsoka, including Ahsoka, and then Cassian Andor from the Andor show as well. They're putting in little, little sections of the ride that let you do that on Star Tours now, so you never know which one of those you're going to get. That ride still still holds up. You know, we have the opportunity to go to, Disneyland a lot more because we are right next to it. So we get a chance to go.

And I routinely can ride rise of the resistance, Millennium Falcon, Smuggler's Run and Star Tours, which is in a totally different part of the park. And honestly, I think Star Tours is my favorite Star Wars ride at the park. Even though it's it's way less expensive. There's no, you know, trackless, moving, super sophisticated car moving around. They just dialed everything in so well. All the show effects work so good. There's like a physical moving C-3po in the front of the car.

Yeah, there's like, there's like a video screen in the corner that takes a picture of somebody in there. Oh, they're the spy. You gotta look out for them. And the car is just synced perfectly to the video in front of you. And any, any seat I've ever sat in inside of that just it works like the, the 3D perspective. It just it all is astonishing. And I and I get a little motion sickness just a little bit at the end of it every time. But it's like it's always like totally worth it.

So that's all right. I will walk out of and then walk back in. If there's no line, I will literally do this because Star Tours is such a unique thing. There's usually about three sections per ride and you don't know what you're going to get right. They always mix and match the section, so it's like a randomize roll the die. Any time you get on Star Tours. So, adding these new ones is going to be great. It's going to really modernize them.

I think it's a it's a great selection of characters as well. They did say that Ahsoka and Cassie Andor are played by the respective actors, but, Din Djarin, is a soundalike, which was disappointing, I heard, because literally he he's you could just get into recorded on his phone and play. Yeah, exactly. Because you're just going to be like processing it or something, but, yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess maybe he was busy making The Last of Us, too.

Yeah, that are fantastic for casting whatever, whatever it is he's doing. But the last part this is, they could be teasing heir to the Empire parts because I think, maybe it was a Sokka or didn't or The Mandalorian did here and says, like, you know, there's, something something's brewing, a war brewing or something that I think is teasing to the heir to the Empire. cool. if not, I don't think I need to go write Star tours to get a, you know, a feeling for what that movie's going to be.

If it's a if it's a little sneak peek, great. But, you know, a little a little line in, Star Wars, right? There's always war brewing and Star Wars. That's why it's called Star Wars, right? There's always war on the horizon. so for that. But I, I love it again. I think that's one of those rides you mentioned. It was dialed in. It feels like the original trilogy come to life, right when you get on a ride. And I think that's just the something so perfect about it. So I agree.

that's our episode for this week. Mike. thank you. Thank you for making time and being he. Mike had to make some changes and adjust for me, and I really appreciate that about them. and I will I will get them back one of these days, I promise. with with that. But, Mike, if you want to know what you're up to, what you're doing, where can they find jet? Buddy, that sounds like a veiled threat. You're going to get me back. I you know, I it's there a promise or a threat. I want you to be scared.

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