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Sunstone Podcast

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For more than 45 years, Sunstone has been exploring Mormonism in all its expressions through our publications and symposiums. The Sunstone Podcast gathers the best of these explorations, including compelling sessions from our worldwide symposiums as well as interviews, book reviews, and deep dives into all things Mormon. Hosted by Stephen Carter.
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Episodes

E77: Faith Journeys in Britain

This panel discussion from Sunstone Birmingham features current and ex-Mormons telling the story of their faith journeys. Moderated by Mark Johnson, the panel includes Deborah Squires-Coleman, Debra Edwards, Mark Lake, and Lauren Richardson Alcock.

Oct 01, 202058 min

E76: Jesus as a Liberal

Kristine Haglund, Karin Peter, and Stephen Carter scoured the 2020 Democratic National Convention transcripts for signs of Jesus’ teachings. What they found (and didn’t find) gave them new insight into what Jesus’ politics might have been.

Sep 22, 202055 min

Episode 75: Jesus as a Conservative

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/SLP-075.mp3 Phil McLemore and Stephen Carter scoured the 2020 Republican National Convention’s transcripts for signs of Jesus’ teachings. What they found led to surprising insights about constructive ways conservatives and liberals can talk with each other.

Sep 15, 20201 hr 2 min

Episode 74: The American Indian/Lamanite Disconnect

The Lamanites in the Book of Mormon were presented as the ancestors of the American Indians by early LDS Church leaders. But how plausible is that connection? In this episode, John Larsen and Christopher Smith dig into the difficulties.

Sep 08, 20201 hr 19 min

Episode 73: Bathing with God: An Interview with Glenn Ostlund

What if a voice started talking to you while you were all alone, soaking in a nice, warm bath? What if that voice told you that everything is a fiction — and that fictions are the single most important innovation in the history of humanity? What if you debated and argued with this voice until suddenly you found yourself overflowing with love, gratitude, and a genuine curiosity about everything in existence? In this episode, Stephen Carter talks with author Glenn Ostlund about his book “Bathing w...

Aug 24, 20201 hr

Episode 72: Mormonism and White Supremacy in Education

The LDS Church is more enmeshed in white supremacy that most Latter-day Saints realize. Education professor Roni Jo Draper talks with co-host Blaire Ostler about how systemic racism shows up in Mormon conversations about education and how we can start to dismantle it.

Aug 12, 20201 hr 8 min

Episode 71: John’s Book of Mormon Project: An Introduction

The Book of Mormon is simultaneously the most central and the most problematic part of the Restoration movement. In this episode, John Larsen introduces a new series in the Sunstone Podcast where he will be exploring various approaches to the Book of Mormon, revealing both its problems and its power.

Aug 05, 202035 min

E70: What Happens When White People Talk With White People About Race?

As Ijeoma Oluo wrote, “White people, talk about race with other white people. … Take some of the burden of racism off of people of color. Bring it into your life so that you can dismantle racism in the white spaces of your life.” But how do white people talk constructively about race amongst themselves? In this episode, Karin Peter, Liz Martin, and Stephen Carter (none of them race scholars, all of them white) try to take a few steps in that direction....

Jul 07, 20201 hr 6 min

E69: A Technological Resurrection

Christian and LDS doctrine both teach about the resurrection of the dead. But how will that resurrection occur? Lincoln Cannon, Jordan Roberts, and Blaire Ostler have a theory that it will be accomplished through technological means. How does new technology and old scripture support their assertion? And what complexities does their theory pose?

Jul 01, 20201 hr 26 min

E68: Black and Queer in the LDS Church: A Conversation with LeiLoni Lee

LeiLoni Lee grew up as a Black person in a small, largely White Utah town. She loved her experience in the LDS Church until the day a “trusted adult” told her that her dark skin was the sign of a curse. Then, at age 12, she began to realize that she was Queer. Blaire Ostler talks with LeiLoni about how Mormons can be better allies to both the Black and Queer communities.

Jun 22, 20201 hr 6 min

E67: Will Church Ever Be Church Again?

With the advent of COVID-19, physically going to church has taken on the aura of a life-and-death proposition. Jana Riess and Stephen Carter discuss how we may have reached a historic period where the way we worship changes forever.

Jun 16, 20201 hr 3 min

E66: Mormonism and White Supremacy

In her new book, “Mormonism and White Supremacy: American Religion and the Problem and Racial Innocence,” Joanna Brooks reveals uncomfortable truths about how White supremacist attitudes were built into the LDS Church—and how they still function today. Joanna Brooks and Mica McGriggs talk with Stephen Carter about how racism became part of the Church’s structure and what we can do to dismantle it.

Jun 08, 20201 hr 19 min

E64: Writing Mormon History: Historians and Their Books

Every great book has a great backstory,” says the blurb on the back of “Writing Mormon History: Historians and Their Books” Editor Joseph Geisner and contributor Daniel Stone talk with Lindsay Hansen Park and Josh Allred about their journeys of writing books that have influenced our understanding of the Mormon past.

May 19, 20201 hr 13 min

E63: How Mormons Shoot Themselves in the Foot on the Internet

LDS Churches have been closed for two months now, which means we can only talk about religion online. And often our attempts at discussion blow up in our virtual faces. This panel explores how to discuss religion constructively online. Panelists include Gina Colvin, Michael Austin, Blaire Ostler, and Stephen Carter.

May 11, 20201 hr 10 min

E62: What Would a Prophetic People Do During a Pandemic?

We live in unprecedented times, with unprecedented problems, that demand unprecedented solutions—solutions that only a prophetic people can provide. But what does being prophetic even mean? And when is a person being prophetic? What stops Mormons from being prophetic, and what can help them? This panel discussion includes Mica McGriggs, Daniel Carter, Lindsay Hansen Park, and Stephen Carter.

Apr 27, 20201 hr 18 min

E61: Mormonism after COVID-19

The COVID-19 pandemic has upended normal life the world over. And things will likely be very different after the pandemic subsides. This panel discussion explores the kinds of changes the LDS Church might go through, including in its temple worship, and what theological possibilities the pandemic could spawn. Panelists include Blaire Ostler, Carl Youngblood, Michaelann Gardner, and Stephen Carter.

Apr 20, 20201 hr 7 min

E60: April 2020 General Conference Analysis

In this episode, Sunstone assembles a panel from across the belief spectrum to help us dig in to not only what happened at this most recent conference, but also what happens at General Conference … generally. Panelists include Lindsay Hansen Park, John Larsen, Blaire Ostler, Jaxon Washburn, and Stephen Carter. Join us for a vigorous discussion that ends with everyone still liking each other.

Apr 08, 20201 hr 21 min

E59: Turning Tragedy into Triumph: And Other Terrible Ideas

From Zion’s Camp to the Willie and Martin handcart companies, the LDS Church is great at retelling tragedies as triumphs. In this episode, Stephen Carter talks about how every group does the same thing, and how it can actually create even more tragedy.

Apr 03, 202027 min

E58: Trapped in Babel: Healing the Religious and Political Divide

When it comes to religion and politics, it seems like everyone is talking in a different language. What if that’s a good thing? Stephen Carter reinterprets the story of the Tower of Babel to show how the “Babel Cycle” has spun out of control, and how harnessing it again could help heal the political and religious divide.

Mar 26, 202027 min

E56: Legalizing Polygamy: An Article by George R. Compton

George R. Compton believes that the eventual legalization of polygamy is inevitable, and the Utah legislature recently took a giant step in that direction by voting to stop prosecuting polygamy as a felony. In what ways would the legalization of polygamy be useful to current American culture? This episode presents Compton’s fascinating article as narrated by Stephen Carter.

Mar 10, 202021 min

E55: A Tale of Two Republicans: How Mitt Romney and Mike Lee Are Two Sides of the LDS Coin

For more than a century, Mormonism has been married to the Republican Party, conservative political values being preached unapologetically from both the general and ward pulpit. But a rift seems to be occurring between the two, as evidenced by LDS senators Mitt Romney and Mike Lee voting on opposite sides of the recent impeachment. In this episode, John Larsen lays out the history of the LDS Church and the Republican Party and argues that the the LDS Church may be rethinking its Republican affin...

Mar 01, 202055 min

E54: Mormon Philosophy Simplified: A Conversation with Brittney Hartley

Brittney Hartley sees a huge gap between the colorful world of Mormon academia and the average church member. In this episode, Jaxon Washburn talks with her about the book she published to fill that gap and how it can steer LDS Church members away from fundamentalist thinking.

Feb 24, 202048 min

E53: Tight Like Unto a Dish?: A Conversation with MormonLeaks

Ryan McKnight and Ethan Dodge believe that the LDS Church would be a better place if it were transparent about its finances and policies. Toward that end, they have established MormonLeaks which releases internal documents and recordings from the LDS Church. John Larsen interviews McKnight and Dodge about some of the surprising results of their work.

Feb 17, 20201 hr 10 min

E52: The Ex-Mormon Overcorrection

During his years of watching the ex-Mormon community, John Larsen has seen an interesting pattern. As they leave the LDS Church, ex-Mormons often accidentally deprive themselves of emotional and psychological benefits to which Mormonism doesn’t have exclusive claim. What are these benefits, and how can ex-Mormons reclaim them?

Feb 10, 202054 min

E51: Returning to Church Without Returning to Church

Could returning to church actually be a sign of significant spiritual growth for post-Mormons? Or would they just be sucked back into the cultural ailments they were trying to escape in the first place? Stephen Carter argues that eventually returning to church is essential—but for reasons that would surprise both orthodox Mormons and post-Mormons.

Feb 03, 202025 min

E50: Religion Is a Technology, and Jesus Was a Saboteur

Are LDS borderlanders the only ones who can slow down, or even stop, the Pride Cycle as described in the Book of Mormon? Stephen Carter thinks so, because they’re the only ones who have been both inside and outside the “technology” of the LDS Church. With a few tips from Jesus, Stephen thinks borderlanders can sabotage the Church toward Zion.

Jan 27, 202037 min

E49: What Was In the Lost 116 Pages?: An Interview with Don Bradley

Imagine if the Book of Mormon were 116 pages longer. That’s what Don Bradley has been doing for the past 15 years as he has reconstructed what might have been in first 116 pages of the Book of Mormon manuscript that Martin Harris lost. Jaxon Washburn interviews Bradley about his methods and findings.

Jan 20, 20201 hr 49 min

E48: LGBTQ Equality Would Break LDS Doctrine: A Call for Responses

Although an advocate for LGBTQ equality, John Larsen doesn’t believe the LDS Church can bring that community into full fellowship without dismantling its doctrine. In this episode, he lays out his argument and then calls for responses to it, hoping that there is indeed room for LGBTQ equality in the LDS Church.

Jan 13, 20201 hr 16 min
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