My grandpa called me the Hubcap Queen. All my friends at the time were working Starbucks or the movie theater or whatever a 15 year old is doing. And the idea of doing that and exchanging my time for money at that age was just like why would I do that? Let's just go sell a hubcap and then go to dinner.
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So she just has an incredible mission. She wants to empower and motivate leaders to align with their purpose, and really believes that as that happens, it increases universal consciousness and is passionate very passionate about this. So she just wants to help people become who they're meant to be aligned with their purpose and their deepest desires, which is why I wanted to have her on the show. So welcome to the show here Jaime!
Hey, thank you so much for having me.
Absolutely. So, we're going to start here. We have this, we have a garage and it's rural Nebraska. And I just picture automotive parts, just like flying out the door, like clanking and clock and just like automotive parts flying out the door. So can you talk about that first dip you had into entrepreneurship, to start us off with your background?
Yeah, absolutely. I would love to. And so really what was going on at that point in time as I was going around different car dealerships and I was putting on brand new automotive parts. And when we would go back to the warehouse to get new inventory, to go install. There was another side to that warehouse that was full of all the items that had been taken off.
But a lot of the reps what would happen because we weren't the only ones out there doing this job, they would come back to the shop and they would just dump all their inventory into the big Dumpster that was outside. And. I actually would literally hike myself up onto this dumpster and be dangling inside to get the stuff out because all I was like, first off, why are you throwing this away? I sell this and it goes crazy on eBay. Why are you throwing this away? So I'd be like fishing it out.
So, so note to self, if you want to have a six figure business, go dumpster diving and figure out how to make it work.
Yeah. I was just, I would say really resourceful at that point. And eventually what happened is I bought out that side of the warehouse for like $500 and I was able to take all the inventory into my own. It was like a storage unit and I just started selling them from there. Online, just had incredible margins for people's trash they were throwing away. And so eventually all these reps just started coming to me and. Yeah, one thing led to another.
How did it grow? How did it scale from there? I'm curious because you have that initial inventory, but then what did that look like as you started to go, this is a real thing.
Yeah, it was, there were more reps. The company has them all over the United States. So I was like, okay, if this is a problem here in Nebraska, this is where their headquarters was. I'm sure it's in other places too. So it was, and really, I found a few people who could start sending me stuff and it just kinda grew from there. It was a really cool experience. Like my grandpa is called me the hubcap queen. Yeah. It was really cool.
That's awesome. So like what, it's growing it's succeeding and stuff, but what ended up like causing you to transition out of that, into doing different things? Was it a challenge or did you just decide that your life was pointed in a different direction?
Yeah. Well, what was interesting is a lot of this was just on Ebay. Like I remember the first time I ever sold anything. I was sitting on the couch with my family. It was a hubcap up at 99 cents. I wasn't sure what they were worth at the time. I just remember my phone going, I had it on the cha-ching the cash register and it was like cha-ching. cha-ching, cha-ching. We're watching a movie. And I'm like, this is going for $50. Like what? Like I had it up at a dollar, are you serious?
And then they just started selling and selling. But then what I tried to do was start a website because that just sounded like something that I should do. Like, I'm going to start a website, everyone's going to go to it and just buy from me. I won't have the eBay fees and it'll be my own thing. It'll just be better. Yeah. That didn't work. And that didn't work out at all because like, I, it was an inventory problem. If things would sell on Ebay they wouldn't show up on the other website.
It was just, it was my bad, I was not prepared for that. And I actually never really shut it down. It's still something that's going, it's just, I don't really deal with it anymore. I'm completely removed from things. So ha I mean, I would say though after that, it was really difficult for me to like all my friends at the time were working. Starbucks or the movie theater or whatever, a 15 year old is doing.
And the idea of doing that and like exchanging my time for money at that age was just like why would I do that? Let's just go sell a hubcap and then go to dinner. Like it is, right.
Treat you all to dinner. $50 hubcap.
Yeah. Like it just made sense. And then ha I mean, that just opened up the world of entrepreneurship.
Uh, yeah, that's one way to do it, for sure.
Huh.
curious, there was a brief stint for you, and this is comes from the kind of the family pressure. And this is something as entrepreneurs, just in general face, right? You have that very consistent, like. You do your nine to five and you grow, you climb the corporate ladder, you do that sort of thing, and that's what's expected. Right. And so there was a brief stint where you went to college and you're like, I'm going to do college online because of that family pressure.
And you decided, no, that's not for me. Can you talk about some that pressure around the family and what that looks like just for entrepreneurs in general, how do you navigate through that?
Yeah. I mean, I can't say that it's easy when everyone doesn't really believe in what you're trying to build or what, you're capable of building. And so there's a lot, especially from my dad and he was like, Hey, you're going to go to college. Right. You're gonna do this. Right. And for a while, when I was unsure of what I wanted, right. I had just tried to, I tried to get into a normal job, working at an automotive parts dealership. I was working like 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM.
I was like, you know what, maybe I should go get a realtor license. And so I sat down, I did online stuff and I was almost at the point where I was going to get that. And I'm like, no, actually this isn't doing it for me. I don't want to, I don't want to sell houses. I want to be the one who like flips them and sells them. I don't want to be the one who goes out selling family homes.
So I tried that, that was my first thing, getting a license in something and I'm like, okay, well maybe that's not it. Maybe I need to be in business in college. And so when I started, I was going to a community college, all online classes, I was homeschooled. So like that was the natural thing to do. And so I went for business. This isn't teaching me how to run a business. I've already been doing that. This is not going to show me what I need to do.
And so then I'm like, okay, well maybe I should just do this college thing for fun. I w I've I would love to just learn more about psychology or even Marine biology. Let's just venture. Yeah, it was a lot of classes. I was like, why am I learning this? Like, truthfully. And so I stopped like one class before getting an associates degree because I was like, I'm not even going to use this degree. What am I doing?
Because I knew I didn't need it for what I was to do in life, which at that time, I didn't know what the hell that was going to be. I just knew that associate's degree is not going to put me where I want to go. That's the only thing I knew.
Fair enough. So you decided that, and then what did you end up doing in the years that followed that.
Yeah. Uh, at this point we were actually still living in Nebraska when this was happening. I just remember like sitting on the couch all day long, just all my computer, just doing classes and reading books and stuff. And after that, we moved to Florida. And at this point, it's when I shut down the whole school idea, I was like, you know what? This just really doesn't feel like it's for me, actually, I'm sorry. We were in Arizona and then Florida. So it was in this transition.
I was like, you know what? I really just want to be able to travel. And I want to be able to earn an income while I'm doing this. And at that point purpose wasn't really involved yet. And so it was really about passive income. And so I had been hearing and sprinkling, there were breadcrumbs all over the internet, like try Amazon FBA, do private labeling. And I was like, you know what? I've already been in physical products. Right. I feel like I know how to do it.
If I just learned from someone else how to do it successfully, let's do it. Let's roll. Let's try Amazon. And so that was like the next venture for me.
So something I want to zoom in on, in this aspect, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. So you had, you're dealing with physical products and you were making revenue, you had that process, and then you have this idea of like, I want to be able to travel and earn income, but then you also mentioned that purpose. Wasn't a part of it at that point in time. So I'm curious to ask the question for you.
Sometimes we have this glamorized, like idealized, Instagram, where it's like, that's, person's like out there making tons of money sitting on the beach, just doing their thing, but is from your perspective, would you say that having that time where it's actually understanding, and it might not have been in your passion project? It might've just been like, I started to understand business and I developed a purpose along the way was beneficial or.
Would you recommend trying to like incorporate it all together? I'm just curious as to your thoughts on that.
I love this question. Yeah. I do feel like traveling and having that ability really helps me find myself. So I think there's so much value in that because I had no idea what my purpose was before that, but I guess like to clarify, it felt really empty. I, at that time was not at all really money motivated. I was really just trying to pay for our experience.
And so when that happened, I wasn't motivated to do more because I didn't feel like I was positively impacting lives of others or the environment, which were two things that were really top of mind for me. And so it felt just empty, I think is a better term for it.
Oh I really appreciate that. And there's something in there just as entrepreneurs is a very problem, unfortunately, that a lot of us have. So during this period of time, so you're doing this private, Amazon label business, and it's allowing you to travel and getting that income. But on the same side you said, you're feeling empty. And there's a part in here. That, uh, you end up, I mean, accruing basically $50,000 of debt from credit cards and we're in tears at one point.
We're about to file for bankruptcy. Can you talk about that and how you worked through such a low point to pull yourself out of that?
Yeah. So really when I was starting Amazon, I was loving it. Like, like talked about like loving the passive income side of things. But at one point, I was like, you know what? I want to make this bigger than what it is. I still wasn't really sure what that looked like, but I started buying more inventory on credit cards and it was orders that were like $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 at a time because Amazon. And now I'm not sure how it is now.
I don't do it anymore, but at the time the fees were so high to where it was really difficult for me to profit. Right. If we're looking at the automotive parts business, that was like, like a couple hundred percent ROI, this was like 5%. Right. And so it was very easy to not make much extra. And that was the problem is then I started buying inventory on credit. And then what happened is I got a cease and desist from a company, and I guess my product was too similar to theirs.
so I had to stop selling it. And that was a big problem. Right. Because now I had all this inventory sitting here I couldn't do anything about it. And so I think that was a really big turning point. And then from there. This is not for me. Like there are just so many signs here that this is not the direction that I'm supposed to be going. And I just like slowly began to phase it out. But. It was with that debt that kind of kicked off now.
Okay. Let's just us, take a pause try to figure out what's next. But that's when I started investing in myself, which at the time, once again, added to that debt that I had already began to accumulate this time. It was for me though. So definitely worth it.
Yeah. I want to, again, zoom in on that as well. So fear is, I mean, we all struggle with it. It's all something that's, uh, a challenge for all of us. What do you do in those moments where you're at a very like low point and how do you keep yourself going? What does that look like for you and how do you navigate and work through the fear that's just involved with entrepreneurship, but you know, life in general.
Yeah, it's definitely learning the lessons. I think that's huge. I'm very much a believer in like, not stressing about the things that you can't control, like for that product. Right. That I got the letter from, I had already made the decision to sell the products. I thought it was a good idea. I made the decision to invest. Then at that point, when that letter came, I was, I just had to reflect like, okay, what didn't I see before? Why didn't I see this.
And learn from that experience, but it's like, I don't, even if something bad happens today, if I can't handle or not handle, I'm sorry if I can't change it or it's out of my hands, like why let it ruin your day? Just pivot
no, I think that's, I think it's really important. I think it's easier said than done, but I think it is very important. Sometimes I'll talk with my clients too, and just like spheres of control, like just make a list and like in the inner circle, this is what you can, 100% absolutely control. And that circles a lot smaller because of COVID we're like, oh, I actually get control as much.
And then in the middle you're like this guy controlling these I can't, and then the 80 20, like how can I spend 80% of my time on. Very inner circle. That kind of idea. So I appreciate you, you bringing that up. So you talked about, and this is a very important thing for you. You started to invest in your self even at a cost. So there's a cost there, but you're like, I see that this. Having value in the future. What did that investment in yourself look like?
And what would you recommend for other people along those lines of investing in education for themselves?
Yeah. And what I want to emphasize here is like, at the time really couldn't and shouldn't afford it. Right. So I want to emphasize that, cause that really shows up in my business now when someone really wants to do something, but doesn't necessarily have the funds because I've been there. And I know that the change created everything for me, so it's huge, but really it was in DIY. Courses, right. I think at the beginning of your entrepreneurial journey, that's really all you're open to.
You don't really know at that point that a coach or someone to actually guide you by the hand would be a lot easier. So I was just consuming, I think the first one that I did was Tony Robbins. It was like a Tony Robbins course. I think that's everybody's started journey. And I was picking up books like by Robert Kiyosaki and like all the traditional books that kickoff and entrepreneurs like career, I was just consuming information.
And the beautiful thing is I had time to do that while that automotive parts business was running. And then I'm like embarrassed in a way to say this, but I was also going to thrift stores. And buying items that I knew sold really well online and I was flipping stuff. So like for example, I went in and I bought a $25 suitcase. It had a big suitcase on the outside and a smaller one inside. For 25 bucks for the set I went home, it was a Rimowa suitcase set.
So we sold the big one for 800 and the little one for 600. So that was the stuff I was doing to really like put money towards like the credit cards in the investment in myself. So I was just really resourceful.
Yeah, absolutely. You take your skills that are like, I'm going to leverage these skills. I'm gonna upgrade my dumpster to a thrift shop. I'm going to crush it.
It works.
absolutely like that's, what's so awesome about it. Like this is what I'm good at. This is what I know. I know there's value in this and it's as a $25 price tag on it and I can sell it for $800,, like that's phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. Uh, but you actually had this in one of your, in one of your blogs. You talked about your advice for starting a business is go get pregnant. So I want to, not really, but want to talk about that phase.
You got pregnant and this was a really clarifying moment and period of time the pregnancy for you. So can you talk about how that shifted everything for you in terms of your alignment and purpose and mission and what that looked like?
Yeah, well, it definitely changed a lot. Like it has been difficult, honestly, just like the journey of that, like going from, I was working hours and hours behind the computer screen. Before, like spinning my wheels and not really sure where to show up for the longest time, learning, consuming all of that.
And so now all of a sudden, I wasn't able to do that anymore, but it turned out to be the most beautiful thing because it shows you how to like prioritize and you as, have to be more selective with what you consume and what you do. And so, it definitely shifted my focus that's for sure.
And that's really when my podcast Moms Freedom Maker was born and it was really all about moms how to make an extra side hustle type of income from home so that they could hang out with their families or just provide for their family and not have to give up or sacrifice, what they want. Because so often I heard stories of women who stayed home and had to rely on the income of their husbands and ask them for allowance. So to speak while they were home all day with the baby taking care of them.
And so I just didn't want them to have to choose or make sacrifices. So that's really where that came from. And that's, I was actually coaching people at the time, how to sell things on eBay, how to thrift, how to sell things around their home, just to make extra income when they needed it so that they could invest in themselves.
Can you talk about, this is another thread for entrepreneurship, just in general, at that period of time, some of what got you into the different moms group and stuff was an aspect of loneliness. And this had been an aspect in, you have an online business and stuff as well. Can you talk about that aspect of loneliness for yourself and what you'd recommend for entrepreneurs about how to make sure that they have people around them that can support them?
Yeah. Yeah. Truly. Like years of experience, I was alone just like at home, behind the computer screen. And yeah, it was, I mean, I had friends outside of this world that I would see, and I had, uh, of now of my fiance, who was very much a huge part of my life. We'd go on adventures and live this life when the computer was shut. But in this world, I was alone, completely alone. Yes. Consuming from people like Tony Robbins, but I just felt empty again.
There's that word coming up to where I was like, I don't know, like I feel alone in this. Am I the only one who thinks this way? Am I the only one who does this stuff? Like, why do I feel like I'm just alone in this world with these thoughts? Because my friends didn't understand What I was doing. They really weren't in that world at all. They thought I was crazy. So, yeah, it was definitely rough.
And I think as lovely as the internet is, I know there's people out there who still feel that way and who haven't found their community, or even looked for one, but it's so much deeper than just being in a Facebook group. Right. Like that is still a lonely place. So it's really important to find your tribe online.
What does that look like? How do people go about. Both, both offline and online.
Yeah. I mean, in person networking events, I mean, that's a great place to start. Even just mom groups for entrepreneurs. If we're talking specifically about moms, there's so many opportunities to find people in your area, it's just putting yourself out there. Truthfully. Uh, when it comes to online, I really have enjoyed finding conferences to go to like one of my favorites. Oh, I hope I can go this year is Funnel Hacking live. That was really fun for me.
So going to conferences is a great way to just meet people that you can continue relationships with, even from, different parts of the states, uh, or masterminds. Online communities that you have calls with every week, right? Like group programs are really nice because you really get to know people at a deep level, but it's really involved with like, not just focusing on the strategy. I think that's the difference.
It's like when you're sitting by behind your computer and you're focused on strategy, you need to shift gears to like a group program or something. That's going to work on your mental health and community and like hearing how other people are succeeding. Right. You start putting yourself in a room we're hitting $30,000 months is normal. You're going to feel weird if you're not hitting 30 K months. So you've got to surround yourself with other people who are doing it too.
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's really, I mean, I know it's very important and the research backs it up tremendously on that and the detrimental effects of loneliness and the incredible positive benefits of social interaction. Like we just absolutely need it both in person or offline. And it's just so important. Like you talked about to be intentional, there's a little bit of intentionality first.
Sometimes not as much as you think, but you know, just find those people offline that you can actually just like play some sports, do some hobbies with, then like you're talking about have people around you in the entrepreneurial space that understand what you're going through and that can challenge you and then potentially, on a similar level and below you that you can help along the way as well. So, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that.
So let's dive into the nitty gritty and this is your absolute jam in terms of finding, helping people. Discover their purpose and their passion and their why, and this really changed everything for you, the changing from the being to the doing. So how do we go about discovering that? How do we go about uncovering that?
Yeah. I'm always like where to start, because it's hard for me to pinpoint the moments. I really do feel though that it went from when I stopped focusing on the strategies. Okay. We can all get hung the how great example, this that clients have struggled with. So I know this is real and I've struggled with it's like changing something stupid, like our bio times, like, oh no, it has to, right. Like it has to be perfect. It needs to say this certain thing this way.
And like letting something like that hold you for like seriously weeks and focusing so heavily on some type of strategy or how you should say a certain thing or who you should target, like your ideal client. We can get hung up on that stuff for way too long. Right. And we all do it. We all get in our own heads like that. But whenever I just said, you know what. No, everything is fine. I know who I'm called to serve, and I will know them when I'm speaking to them.
So whenever I stopped focusing on the strategy and the how, and just making it perfect, I shifted gears to how can I improve myself to become like my best client? Or who I would want my best clients to be, and then basically go out and find them right. And start those conversations. So that changed everything. I gave that advice yesterday, too. I'm hoping it, it saves them.
I think that's, I think that's really important. You're right. So often we can get caught up in, in all of that, but really, and that's the hero's journey that Joseph Campbell kind of thing. Entrepreneurship is a very good analogy for that, where you're just, the more you work on yourself internally, the business can be not always, but it can be a reflection of that.
And I love how you put that, like become the ideal person or the client that you'd want to be, and then just share what you've gone through. And like you said, the people will find you
Yeah.
Talk to me about vulnerability around that. Cause this is something that's really important too. Sometimes we want to hide that, but talk to us about the importance of that both in your journey and then for entrepreneurs to.
Yeah. Uh, that was hard in the beginning because I think it's really easy to have the perfect Instagram feed and just use that as your identity, because it's easy to not share anything, right? Let's be real you can easily not share the painful moments of business and life. But the moment I started talking about things that I don't even know if anybody really knew. Everyone started to embrace me and my story, especially those from that period of my life who didn't know I was going through that.
Like, I've had a lot of relationships, from high school, right. You don't know why they didn't work out. Why you suddenly just parted paths. But after I began posting, I actually had some of my, what were my close friends in high school actually reaching out. Like, I didn't realize you were that sorry that I wasn't there for you and the way I should have been in that time. And so I think it just gave everybody like a better understanding of that stuff.
So that was really, it was actually really powerful.
yeah, I like going back to, Brene Brown,, the expert on vulnerability, how she talks about it. It's like we view it as strength in other people and we view it as weakness in ourselves. So we think I'm weak, I should of have stuff together. I should be whatever. But like actually what you talked about typically, and if they're decent people on the other end, it ends up strengthening that connection.
You're like, actually didn't really have anything here before, or maybe it was so-so, but the sharing that vulnerability and letting other people in. The result of that, it's actually stronger connections and more impact. Then with our perfect lives,
It's almost like I have like a picture coming to mind. It's like, if you were held up in the air by like a hundred balloons or something like a hundred big balloons. like yes. Yes. And it's like each time you are vulnerable about something, maybe you've never told anyone. It's like, you cut the string, and you're slowly lowering back down to the grounds where it's like this entire weight has just been lifted off of your shoulders. Like that's how it feels. It just feels freeing truthfully.
Yeah, I agree. 100% with that. I think that's really important. It's just a key to life and relationships and entrepreneurship in general.
Yeah.
A question that I'd love to ask you, I mean, You have a lot of passion, you have a lot of impact already, but I'm curious if you were to like say 50 years after you're dead and gone, what impact would you want to have left behind.
Definitely books. Like I want to have books where people can like get in my mind and consume information. I think that's huge. If you look back. All the legacies that have passed before they have books you can read from right? And now in the day of technology that we're in all these podcast episodes, right. They're going to live on for ever, hopefully, but as long as the shows exist.
So just hoping to just leave breadcrumbs all over the internet and then just touch the lives of let's say I'm speaking on a stage and there's 5,000 people there. If I can touch their lives and that's a waterfall effect to their life, it's going to affect generations to come because they're going to make a change in their life from that moment. And so it's really endless, but I think a lot of the work that we do is stuff that we're probably never gonna see the impact.
To the full extent that we create, because the person who is sitting in the audience may never ever speak to me, but what they learned in that moment could affect their relationships. It will affect how they raise their kids, which is going to affect their life. It's just, yeah, it's endless, but sometimes I think it's a thankless job.
Yes, it can be. It's super nice when you do get those thank you's and you're like, "Oh, wow!"
Yes.
Someone's listening. And someone's like, like letting me know, Hey, you're making a difference. And those are, those could go a long way as entrepreneurs.
Right. I honestly think I thought of this yesterday. I think I'm going to print out. Cause I mean, I get the messages a lot. I think I'm gonna print them out and make a whole wall full of them and my office, like just the lovely little comments and stuff That people have said and like, I don't know. I just feel it would be really cool. I'm actually looking at the wall right now. I think it would be really cool to do that,
That is definitely a motivation booster when you're feeling down. And you're just like, look at this wall, remember all the basic things that people have said, you're doing a great job. Get up and keep going.
but then, you know what, that's bringing up I don't want people to look at the opposite of what that could be. Right. I think so often people are worried to be vulnerable because what will somebody say? What if they leave a nasty comment? What if I get a bad text messages? Right. And so I don't want to say the whole positive wall and you think, well, what if there's a negative wall, right? Not, everybody's going to like you truthfully, I've done a podcast episode on this.
It's like any feedback you get, take it as neutral. Don't look at a comment as being negative. read it. It's neutral until you decide to put an emotion behind it. Right. So you can take it like it's a positive thing. You can take it, like it's a negative thing, but just look at it as a way to did what this person say actually makes sense first off. And can I use it to improve?
Yes. That's also very important in the internet world that we live in. Very important. Not taking that stuff personally. Yeah. Thank you for mentioning that too. So I want to shift gears a little bit here. I want to talk about being an underwater astronaut along with your passion for the environment and the ocean and things like that. So I'm curious, where that started that passion and then, where does it come from? What do you see it doing? Even for you today?
Like what are you doing to help out with the environment and the ocean?
I love that you've mentioned this because a couple of weeks back I was actually doing a full day, basically in our dojo, which is our meditation room. And I realized that as an only child, I have five stepsisters, but I was really alone for a lot of my childhood. And I realized that I was always around animals. Right. I would always have, I had a bunch of Guinea pigs and this is going to be weird, but each time a Guinea pig would get pregnant, I would know right away.
And I would say dad, my Guinea pigs going to have babies. And he's like, no, she's not. And then before you knew it, I had more Guinea pigs. Right. And they had babies and the same thing would happen. I had a bunch of birds, right. At one point I had like 12 birds and. The same thing happened there. I would always know, I was apparently an animal breeder or something because my bird had eggs a few different times too. And so I had this beautiful or I still have her actually, which is wild.
I've had her for so long since I was in fifth grade. She's a grand Eclectus parrot and she's gorgeous. She's red and she's got purple orange and yellow on her. And so I just realized, like, I was always with animals growing up and we leased a horse, so I was alone, but I was with them and I was just always taking my time with them. And so that developed a love of animals.
And then I dunno, throughout this journey, I've always had on my heart, to have a wildlife conservation in Africa to really help animals that have been a victim to habitat loss or even poaching. So that is something that I'm really excited to bring to the world one day. But for now we're looking to plan in the near future, a volunteer trip to go work there. And the environmental conservation side of things, I just feel without that we won't survive and they won't survive.
And I don't think that's fair to the animals of the world, just because we don't take care of things for them to suffer. It's really close to my heart and that's why I really tied in my coaching to if we are able to help leaders come out and truly be themselves and step into their power, we're gonna raise the whole consciousness of everyone, which hopefully helps the environmental crisis.
Yeah, I know that's something that's really important to you, so I appreciate you sharing and I appreciate what you're doing in that space as well. So, I usually end on this question. I'm curious to just hear, how would you go about defining success?
I would say success is knowing that what you're doing is what you're here to do. It's not worrying about what other people think It's not worrying about yourself. Like, oh, how much will I make when I do this? Will it buy me this? Will it buy me that it's not something for the end result. It's showing up every single day in pursuit of what you're meant to do on this planet.
It's being completely on purpose and realizing that anything you've ever wanted in your life is a by-product of you being on purpose. The only way to have true success is stepping into your purpose.
I think that's really, yeah, really powerful. appreciate that answer. So where can people go if they want to connect up with you and follow what you're doing?
Yeah, definitely. My podcast. Aligned with purpose in life and leadership, you can find it anywhere. You listen to podcasts. We'll definitely check that out. Especially if you liked some of the topics we spoke about today, I go really deep with specific episodes dedicated to that. Or you can find me over on LinkedIn, Jamie Kullman. Or I got a brand new Instagram. So that's coach with Jamie. You can find me over there as well.
Awesome. Well, I really appreciate your time and it's fantastic to talk to somebody who has such a unique, diverse journey and is just working every day to create the life that they want to live and navigate through that. Well, so appreciate your thoughts and I appreciate your insight.
Thank you so much.
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