#280 Pro-Metabolic Living w/Jake Miner

My health journey kind of started about 10, 11 years ago. I went through a big breakup with my fiance. And at that point, a lot of people just want to get jacked. And then about four to six weeks into it, it tanked my libido. Like the libido wasn't even working in the morning, nothing. So I'm freaking out at that point. I started developing a lump in my chest and I'm like, what is going on? So I actually went back.

in the store and like you guys keep telling me to do these things and everything keeps getting worse like where's the owner and i'm kind of freaking out at this point it's been three four months and i keep developing these more lumps in my chest like what do i got cancer what's going on nobody really had an answer so then at that point i started going on like black website

but they're like quit being a pussy get on the real steroids hey it's healthy gut girl kitty martone and this is stuff your doctor should know i'm coming to you live from deep inside your large intestine and merry christmas merry christmas

and happy new year. We've taken a little break here at the Stuff Your Doctor Should Know headquarters because we are doing some incredible things for the new year. Really transitioning Healthy Gut Girl into a much larger broader reach with some private coaching programs on different topics of interest including having some guests working with these coaching programs with me on specific topics. And one such guest...

is today's guest, Jake Miner. He's in the bioenergetic and metabolic health field, and he does personalized science-backed strategies to optimize your health. your energy and your life. And we're very happy to have him. He joined my group, Estrogen Dominant Support Group, and he's been nothing but helpful. He is so knowledgeable. He's really humble. He's kind. He's patient. and I really like him and I'm happy to be working with him in the future as well as having him on the show today. So enjoy.

A lot of people are really eager to hear from you. Especially when a man comes into the group, they're like, okay, who's this guy? And why is he loud in here? And everyone gets a little bit funny about it. But if they know me... which most of them do, they know how particular I am about even just approving a practitioner for the group to get on the list.

how picky I am. One of the main things I really, really want from any practitioner who's curious about the group is to come in and to contribute. to contribute their knowledge and, um, and not in a way that they're just trying to sell them on something, but just literally answer questions. And, and you've done that from the get go. You've been so helpful, so knowledgeable.

all of the mod team has gotten on me like, you need to have this guy on the show. He needs to be a moderator. You guys need to work together. And so I had to check in with all my buddies too, with Constantine, who I really, really like. She was watching.

well and so here we finally are so tell us first why you do what you do yeah so do you kind of want me to go into my story how it led me to just being passionate about all this stuff yeah yeah give us that yeah so My health journey kind of started about 10, 11 years ago. I went through a big breakup with my fiance. And at that point in life, a lot of people just want to get jacked, you know, to kind of make them jealous, that kind of stuff.

And at that time, I had no idea about metabolic health, anything like that. I just kind of did the mainstream stuff. So I went to a store called Complete Nutrition, similar to like a GNC, and I got some over-the-counter... hardcore bulk it was just a was it called no explode well they actually named it hardcore bulk and then a funny thing in the ingredients it just said proprietary blend nothing

So I did that for two, three weeks and I'm like, Hey, I'm getting bigger. I feel stronger kind of doing what it said it would do. And then about four to six weeks into it, it tanked my libido. Like the libido wasn't even working.

In the morning, nothing. So I'm freaking out at that point. I went back into complete nutrition, like, hey, guys, you know, you told me to take this to get jacked and work to three weeks. No, what's going on? And they really couldn't tell me. And their answer to that was.

Hey, you know, you're probably dealing with inflammation. Start taking these fish oils. And they have like six different kinds, big bottles, different colors of fish oil. So here I am taking 30 fish oil a day, thinking it's helping with... oh my goodness my inflammation in my body libido testosterone when in fact it was doing the opposite um and then three four more weeks go on um so maybe eight nine weeks into it

i started developing a lump in my chest and i'm like what is going on so i actually went back in the store and like you guys keep telling me to do these things and everything keeps getting worse like where's the owner you know i kind of got huffy and puffy at that point um

And then their answer to that at that point was, hey, let's get on some eczema stand. You know, block your estrogen, your estrogen dominant. And, you know, at that point I'm arguing, well, why did you have me do these things that led to me being... you know, I guess the first stages of estrogen dominance. They really had no answer. So then I kind of spiraled for a couple months, tried some other things, went to the doctor. I developed a couple more lumps on this side of my chest.

And I couldn't find the answer. I'm like, what the heck are these lumps that are developing in my chest? And I didn't know the whole time. It's estrogen dominant, prolactin, all these bad things are happening in the body. Hormones are going out of whack. Libido doesn't work. So then...

You know, a couple months later, I started getting like skinny fat. Like I started putting on some mass and then 10, 12 weeks into it, I'm like, man, I'm getting leaner and I'm developing like little roles, which was odd too at that point. Definitely opposite of my goal from breaking up with your fiance, going through, you know, the hard times that everybody goes through in that situation. So then I went to the doctor and...

The doctor's like, hey, he's feeling the lumps, checking it out. And he's like, well, I think it's estrogen dominant, but we're really not sure. You might want to go to an endocrinologist or you might want to biopsy. He's like, let's cut the lumps out.

and i was not going to do that at all either and i'm kind of freaking out at this point it's been three four months and i keep developing these more lumps in my chest like what do i got cancer what's going on nobody really had an answer um so then at that point i started going on like the

black websites because back then you couldn't get in a group and ask about estrogen dominance or ask about anabolics or anything like that. So I got on some groups and there was guys on there that were into anabolics and I was just taking an over-counter capsule, not the same thing.

But they're like, you know, quit being a pussy. Cut it out and get on the real anabolics. Get on the real steroids. So then I was pretty distraught at that point. Like, what do I do? So then I started getting into the vegan diet. And I did three, four months of the vegan diet, got worse, sleep got worse. I just felt worse overall. So then I'm searching through marketing, YouTube channels, you know, apps, infomercials, and I started Carnivore.

And four, five, six months carnivore, things just kept getting worse and kept getting worse. So I was going through this negative feedback, you know, of stress hormones, this cascade. And then I tried keto and that didn't work either. I kept putting on weird skinny fat rolls.

Until one day I was searching on YouTube and trying to correlate that with my issues. And I found a Christopher Walker video talking about, you know, if you're not so small, this is how you get big balls.

Obviously, when you're estrogen dominant as a male, you know, testes are shrunken, testosterone production shut off, that kind of stuff. So then after I was reading, I was going back and forth with Chris watching this video. I was like, it's pretty interesting. But at that point, I didn't believe anybody.

So I reached out to Chris on there and I'm like, hey, Chris, I don't really know you, but this is my problem. And right away, Chris goes, well, Jake, I can help you. And I was like, you know what? I don't fucking believe anybody because everybody's filling me full of bullshit, but I'll try it.

so i tried some of the things chris said and i actually felt better after two three months and then we kept going back and forth on his youtube channel you know then we started emailing each other and chris was a testosterone optimizer and he was like in the beginning stages of

you know, him learning the metabolic health stuff. So at that point, you know, Chris reached out and said, Jacob, kind of 40 YouTube videos to watch them. They're all about testosterone and there's a little bit of metabolic health stuff.

So I started doing that four or five, six months into it. I started implementing the right foods. And Chris at this time wasn't a super rapey guy. He was kind of just learning that, hey, if we learn to optimize the hormones, it's kind of like eating. It correlates with eating metabolic.

So Chris wasn't super into Ray. And then once Chris went through the, created the 60 video reels, I went into it and everything just kept changing. I'm feeling better. It's probably a year and a half into it. And Chris reached back out to me. He's like, Jake, we're starting this Thermo Diet.

It's basically the metabolic diet based on Ray P, but we call it Thermo. You know, generally when your metabolism is running right, you eat food and you get hot. You know, you're converting your food to energy. So he called it Thermo. And I got in this Facebook group and I just...

And he's like, hey, I want you to give him a space for a group. Help everybody out. Do your thing. Be yourself. You're great at this stuff. You're great at my supplements. So I hopped in there and I had such an impact on everybody right away. And this was eight years ago. So I have my knowledge of...

thyroid hormones health women's health everything is nowhere close it is right now um and i found out you know six months of being in that group just being myself you know and doing the things i do and being who i am it was it was inspirational to people

Because so many people are dealing with all these health issues and they're, hey, there's this guy that went through exactly what I went through. And it's inspirational to see him changing his health. So then about six months in, Chris introduced me to Tim Berzins. He's a super...

really great metabolic mind. He doesn't coach anymore, but I would put him on the level of like Danny Roddy, Jay Feldman, Kitty Bloomfield, those kinds of people. He introduced me to Ray P. And when I heard this first aspirin video that, um,

Tim Bersin said I was hooked. And then I got into thyroid, hormones, metabolic health, everything. And I couldn't stop diving in deeper and deeper and deeper. And then from that point, that's when I became passionate about helping people with their health.

because i'm thinking man i was in this place for two three years i was in this negative feedback loop i was so um you know when you're thinking hey i'm gonna die i can't sleep i can't get a boner i can't do this stuff i can't digest my food i got leaky gut

all the above problems that come with low thyroid, estrogen dominance, that kind of stuff. So when I, you know, was pretty confident that I could help people with this, like I'm going to share my passion and do this with people. So going forward a little bit.

Six months after we got in that group and I was interacting with those people, Chris was like, hey, you need to fly to Denver, move here, and we're going to give you X amount of dollars. You can work salary, and we need you on the team. Your impact is awesome. I couldn't do that.

at that point because i had i have two kids here um so i couldn't just update up and move the kids leave you know separate the families that kind of stuff so then a couple months go on again at that point and chris is like hey You're going to work from home, pick your hours, you're going to do this, you're going to be the director of ThermaDiet, you know, and coaching that kind of stuff. So that's kind of my story that led to.

you know, what I do now. And you can kind of see the impact I have on your group too. And then one of the biggest things I remember from being in that stress state is there was one point where I won full place with one of my daughters, her mom.

um just went down the wrong road in life became a drug addict and i remember i won full placement of my daughter i'm sitting there in court and if you could imagine being estrogen dominant not sleeping leaky got all these problems you're sitting there in a suit like you can't even breathe

Like, I just felt like I was going to puke. Like, what if I lose, you know, the battle and my daughter's drug addict mom wins placement for some weird reason, you know? So I remember winning and crying. And that day I went and go out and... And she was two and a half at that point. I went and bought like a little bicycle with training wheels. And then she's going along.

pedaling and she looks at me and she's like dad you know check out me on this bike and i was so checked out like i'm like estrogen dominance i got these limbs on my chest my nuts are strong blah blah blah

You know, and that's one of the biggest things I'll remember from, you know, being in that stress state to being in now. Like, now when you're in this optimal state, you know, you go have lunch with your parents. And you can talk about, like, what's going on, make them laugh and be present in the moment. But in that state.

that you're in you're just checked out and it's like i wasn't even there and that should have been one of the most beautiful moments of my life you know on that watch my daughter get on the trike and ride her bike but i was just so checked out yeah

You're like in a, in that fight or flight state where you're worried, you're, you're thinking about the past, you're thinking about the future and it's just an emergency state of mind. You know, when you said, okay, so you met Chris and then. You said it took about three months till you started to feel a change where you were like, oh yeah, things are starting to change finally. Do you remember what the first things you started to do were?

Yeah, so a couple of things. He sold supplements too, and they were pretty decent supplements, but I wouldn't recommend them now since I'm such a metabolic mind. But some of the first things I was doing was just switching the food. You know, when you're eating fish oils, they're highly estrogenic. You know, fish oils oxidize, cause free radical damage, oxidative rust. But what they're doing is they're really spiking your estrogen. And when you're in an estrogen dominant state,

And you get stressed out or mad, what do you do? You create more stress hormones. So I got off the fish oils. You know, I remember I started eating aspirin. And then I started eating fruits, roots, tubers, grass-fed steaks, shellfish, that kind of stuff. So just getting away from like processed foods, drinking fluorinated water. What else? Drinking. Drinking? Non-fluoridated water.

drinking pure pure water right yeah you know fluorine and chloride in your water was a huge one and i was one of them people where i was going to the gym too to try to get big so i was the guy that had the two gallons of tap water and then you're flushing your minerals Then when you flush your minerals, you even become more estrogen dominant, that kind of stuff. Yeah. You add like a test booster, just zinc, magnesium, copper, the basic stuff, but just...

Adding the minerals that I wasn't getting because I was eating this, you know, modern Western diet, fast food, that kind of stuff. So kind of changing the diet and learning more about hormones, what to do, that kind of stuff. And then...

You know, when you find the repeat world, you start eating a protein, carbon, fat to support blood sugar balance. And then I kind of really got into, you know, blood sugar balance is one of the main things that we should be concentrating on. Because when it's at an imbalance...

you're you're spiking your stress hormones so that was kind of the first things and then he had like a um probiotic that was you know kicking out more luteinizing hormone that kind of stuff so just kind of supporting the system and the main thing was really just stopping And realizing and learning, hey, these 900 things are bad, stop. So that was kind of the biggest heavy leverage thing at first. And then you said something else that I thought about, like I was reading this.

Instagram post not that long ago where, uh, They were saying, you know, there's just so many experts out there now. There's so many internet gurus that don't have a medical background and don't have any kind of, you know, dietician background. And you just made me think of...

The reason citizen scientists like you and I or citizen researchers come about is because you go through what you went through and then you try and reach out for help. And they keep... on steering you down the wrong road and then when you finally figure out oh wow there are so many layers

that are on the outside of this and I'm getting to the center of this and finding out what the real root causes are. I can't keep this inside. I can't wait for these crazy people to catch up with what I know. I have to help people. And that's exactly what happened with me with progesterone and hormones is I'm like, man, I know all these doctors and experts and so-called experts and dieticians and naturopaths and none of them.

ever mentioned progesterone. And when I discovered it and then started to figure out all these other components, I'm like, I can't. I got to start an estrogen group. I got to start a Facebook group because people need to know this. They're relying on this. faulty information from that's why the podcast is called stuff your doctor should know

because they really should know. And even the people that own these GNCs and these supplement stores, and they're recommending all these supplements, it's like they don't really know. They don't know. They've read some things, but they don't really know. So let's get a little bit more specific about like some of the big components. You know, you and I have talked about low stomach acid, you know, being a healthy gut girl and having, that was before I knew.

anything about pro-metabolic anything, I knew that if I was stuck on a deserted island and I could only pick one supplement to have with me, I would pick hydrochloric acid. Now I want you to tell me why that's so important and not fish oils and not vitamin D and not magnesium. Tell me why I chose HCL. Yeah. So one of the biggest things we see.

in the mainstream thing is, you know, when you have low stomach acid, they want you to take an antacid. Well, again, like you said, they have no idea, you know, they're just blunting this effect and they want to keep you sick. And that's the biggest problem with nowadays. They want you this hamster.

running any wheel so when you do have low stomach acid it's generally from you know low thyroid the first thing to go on energy production tanks is your hormones and then your gut they're all completely linked

And then you see people, hey, I have heartburn, so I'm going to take an antacid. You get rid of the heartburn, but you didn't solve the root cause of the problem. Now, in that case, I would recommend, obviously, living a lifestyle to support thyroid production but with uh like a betaine hcl it's actually a methyl donator so what you're doing is you're donating molecules to increase stomach acid

And that's one thing we need to do when you're dealing with low stomach acid, heartburn, that kind of stuff. And then another main thing I would touch is, you know, when we're eating food, especially being a healthy gut girl is, you know, digestion starts with your mouth.

you have enzymes in your saliva that talk to enzymes in the gut. So we really need to slow down and eat our food, you know, take your time, that kind of stuff, especially if you're dealing with, you know, acid reflux, low stomach acid, that kind of stuff. And then especially...

You know, we used to have a betaine supplement at our last company, and you see people trying to eat this huge steak to get the nutrients, but that's one of the hardest things to break down, especially if you have low stomach acid. So steak and some betaine HCL before a meal, that kind of stuff too. Add to the amount of stomach acid you have is a good idea.

Yeah, I would add to that. I used to think, or a lot of people think that that's what HCL is for, is to digest animal proteins. And it's just not the case at all. And when I was studying and learning about hydrochloric acid production in the stomach, I didn't know. about the down regulation of thyroid and how those go hand in hand. And I was chronically had low stomach acid production my whole entire life. And it isn't only until I met Constantine and started reading Ray Pete's stuff that I...

realized that I was hypothyroid from a really young age. And because I was so hyper behavioral wise and had ADHD and had all these behavioral issues and learning disorders and all these things and slow learner, et cetera, they never thought.

for one second, I could be hypothyroid. But even if I was had symptoms of hypo, they still wouldn't have done anything you know they still would have been like you're fine but i was suffering from hypothyroid sluggish thyroid and i was running on adrenaline even as a child i was adrenaline dominant and this low stomach acid component yeah we don't

want to have to take stomach HCL, but we can. And if you're able to take it, it's such... a benefit and the fact that it's a methyl donor i wanted to throw this in there was so many people have the mthfr and they have slow methylation or low methylation and issues with methylation that being a methyl donor and it contributes to the ability to methylate. And that is such an important aspect to it, like you were saying.

Stomach acid to me, HCL to me, is the reason I would take it to an island. It was the only supplement I could have is because it also disinfects everything that passes through your gut. So everything. So if you're on a deserted island and you're eating, you're catching fish and you're eating what a strange things, you're exposing yourself to potentially dangerous bugs, microbes, and that stomach acid.

is our first line of defense, not only from the pathogens in our own mouth, but from whatever you're eating. And so it's so beneficial for that. It's crazy how many things strong stomach acid. protects you from. It's like you said, it's like chewing is digestion. It begins digestion and stomach acid is your first line of defense with your immunity. It's crazy.

All right. So let's go to the blood sugar story. So this is something that took me ages to understand. And I still feel like I still grapple with it. But when people say I've got hormone imbalance, they never connect. blood sugar dysregulation. Tell me about how important blood sugar is to hormone balance. Yeah, I would argue that blood sugar is the most overlooked and important thing that we need to concentrate on.

thyroid hormones life living being happy that kind of stuff and what people don't understand is you know when i talk about it's important to balance your blood sugar some ways you know the i guess the main way to start balancing your blood sugar when we eat a protein source

It's insulinogenic. Now, a lot of people in the whole health spiel that we got to deal with to get to the metabolic stuff will say the opposite. But when you get an insulin spike and you eat a carb source with that, you know, the insulin will grab the glucose and help the uptake into the cell. Explain that more. So when you say insulinogenic, explain that more. Yeah, so when you get an insulin spike, that's what's helping the glucose go into your cell.

And if you eat good sources of protein, grass-fed steak, even a big thing of milk, you're getting that insulin spike. So when we're trying to balance the blood sugar, we don't want to wait nine hours to eat where then you eat some carbs.

And you get this big spike, and then you're like, and you're like, hey, I'm crashing from sugar. So to balance your blood sugar, you want to eat a protein-carbon fat to get an insulin spike, and then that'll help the glucose uptake in the cell. And the reason we want the fat is...

Again, we don't want it to go in there too fast. We get the spike. So once you can balance your blood sugar, and it looks like this throughout the day for months on end, you're doing so much for your body. And then that's your, you know, obviously supporting thyroid.

You're supporting keeping stress hormones low. And a lot of people don't understand that when we talk about stress hormones, you know, estrogen, prolactin, adrenaline, cortisol, they're glucocorticoids, steroids. And the people are like, well, what's that? Well, the first part of the word is glucose. So when you're in an imbalance, what happens? The stress hormones rise. So to keep all these things in check, it's huge for your overall health to balance your blood sugar.

and then you know going further into it um when we talk about things like longevity you know one of the best things you can do as a man or woman is have you know some lean muscle mass you think of like an old lady or an old man they're just so brittle But the people that work out and eat, you know, whole foods their whole life, they look pretty good at 75 and a half some muscle mass. Now, when you balance your blood sugar through months on end, and let's say you came from something like keto.

When you're going keto, you're pushing your glycogen stores out. And then what's happening? Glucocortical steroids are right. You know, their stress hormones are exacerbated. So then you get to the metabolic world and you're like, well, Jake, I'm kind of put on this weight. Well, you pushed out.

you know, 12 pounds of muscle glycogen. So when we're eating that balance for months on end, we're restoring muscle glycogen. And then once you have an excess of muscle glycogen, you'll start liver glycogen. So then, you know, then stress hormones are going down because you're like, hey, we have this system full of the main source glucose. And then, you know, you can go even into that with sleep. So generally when you're sleeping at night.

You know, cortisol is our monitor for sugar in the brain. So a lot of people, you know, it does have different purposes and it is a stress hormone. But when you're sleeping at night, your brain's constantly on. It's running. So what you're doing is you're using your glucose in your bloodstream. So when that gets low, let's say you go to bed at 10 and 12 o'clock, the glucose in your blood is getting low. So cortisol is going doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. And then it spikes and you get up.

And the reason you get up is to provide more glucose because you ran out. And the reason you ran out so fast is because you don't have muscle glycogen, you don't have liver glycogen, and you have a severe imbalance of blood sugar. So this is kind of the basis of...

you know, one of the main things we can concentrate on going forward to optimize our health. And then going back into like the sleep, you know, you get up to pee and you go back to bed and you get to pee again. But then that secondary stress response is adrenaline.

So you get up and your cortisol is like, hey, we're not getting the sugar, but you don't know that's what your body needs. You just get up like, damn, I can't sleep. Well, then the second reaction is adrenaline going into liver to squeeze out the rest of that liver glycogen.

So when we talk about, you know, things like processed foods, polyunsaturated fats, seeds, grains, nuts, beans, they are dramatically inhibiting blood sugar balance. And what is that doing? It's causing that stress response, estrogen dominance, you know, your elevated stress hormones.

And when we think about, you know, like your protective hormone ratio, distress hormone ratio, it's like a teeter-totter at the park. Like the kids are jumping. When you're in a really good place, you have high protective hormones, DHT, progesterone, pregnant alone, that kind of stuff.

And then when you get in a car accident, obviously it goes whoosh. You know, you want your adrenaline high. You don't want your sex hormones activated when you're trying to climb out of a burning car. But what happens, you know, with the lifestyle, Western lifestyle and, you know, being so stressed.

not balancing blood sugar, estrogen down it, you're stuck in this negative feedback loop of stress. And one of the main things to do is obviously switch to like a metabolic style of eating, but really getting that blood sugar balanced down right away is going to be one of the fastest.

Let's have you leverage things you can concentrate on. Okay. I want to take a scalpel to the glycogen topic. So... First of all, for people who are brand, brand new, I think you did a great job of just explaining what you just explained. But I want to get deeper into what is the difference between glycogen and glucose?

Yeah, so glycogen, I guess in short, is just stored energy in your muscles. And when you think of a guy my size, 6'2", 10, I'm storing 12 to 16 pounds of muscle glycogen. So I guess to explain it to somebody that's new to it is... you know you have energy that you have in your bloodstream but then you have extra stored glycogen muscle glycogen or stored energy for later for when you need it for when glucose gets low for when you get in a stressful thing or

Let's say you're training, you're working out, you're burning through your muscle glycogen. So we need these stores in there of extra fuel, you know, and it's paramount to have that, to have high thyroid, be in optimal state of health, high libido, that kind of stuff.

And what about the glycogen that's in the liver? So I always tell people when we talk about blood sugar, and you probably see this a lot in the group, is people will say, I can't sleep, I can't sleep. And what's the problem? Oh, and everyone will say, oh, have some orange juice. before bed have some ice cream before bed and I'm always like that process of that stored glycogen in the liver doesn't start before bed it starts when you wake up in the morning and that even

begins days beforehand. So when I wake up this morning and I have adequate fuel within 30 minutes of eating balanced meals, that's what's going to... pave the road for my sleep that night and the next night and the next night is waking up in the morning. Would you agree with that?

Yeah, absolutely. So when I was previously talking about months on end for weeks where you're balancing your blood sugar, if you have a blood sugar imbalance and your sleep's poor, we naturally get up with a cortisol spike.

But it can be terrible because, you know, you think of the term breakfast break fast. If you're getting up six, seven times a night and then you wake up in the morning, you're just waking up with elevated adrenaline, cortisol, plaque and everything. You know, blood sugar is imbalanced in your day. It's terrible.

So like you said, it definitely takes weeks and months on end to store all this. And then another thing that, you know, it can correlate with like the glycogen in the liver is... we have an active t4 and active t3 in the liver so 94 of our thyroid hormone production you know requires again this beautiful glycogen stores glucose in the blood low stress hormones but you also need liver glycogen in the liver

for that conversion so you see people when they go keto vegan carnivore you you have barely any glucose in the system no you're you're high on adrenaline all the time but your thyroid tanks and that's another one of the biggest reasons is we need glucose for that conversion too, you know? So yeah, it's definitely, uh, you know, weeks and months on end to get everything filled. And especially when you go like keto, I've seen some guys, you know, I've been keto for five years and

They're skinny, fat, weak, brittle, don't sleep, no libido, cold hands and feet. And like, but I'm ripped. Well, I am 39 years old. My testosterone is 1,323 nanogams. And I'm very vascular and jacked. have a bunch of muscle glycogen stores. My hormone ratios are awesome. Everything's great and I can build muscle with ease, but I would argue I'm in a good place. I have a bunch of muscle glycogen. I like to feel my workout. I like to eat post-workout for muscle glycogen reuptake.

So we really need to concentrate on and learn, hey, these are some ways to balance blood sugar. This leads to glycogen or what is glycogen stores and some other benefits like, hey, to have that thyroid conversion, we need glucose. Too much polyunsaturated fats, non-alcoholic fatty liver, that kind of stuff. But yeah, I think it's the most heavy leverage thing to kind of wrap your head around at the beginning of the metabolic health. So tell me what happens when somebody works out.

And they start lifting heavy and they don't have adequate glycogen stores in their muscles and liver. What happens? Is that harmful to muscle building? Absolutely. So I get this question a lot. you know, again, once, and I coach a lot of people from different walks of life. I've coached some IBF pros. I have women that are endurance athletes, triathletes, and a lot of them are doing things wrong with their training. So when it comes to,

People that do intermittent fasting and the big, I guess, craze you see every day is, oh, get that fasted workout in. So when you're doing intermittent fasting, and again, we don't have any muscle glycogen, you have no sugar. in the blood, anything like that, no liver glycogen, you're already in a stress state. So what happens when you work out, and I see this all the time with influencers and stuff, do a fasted workout.

Well, when you get this really tight pump in your muscle, because I did intermittent fasting for years, I know what it feels like. But when I realized, you know, this is how our biochemistry works, this is wrong. But you go in there and you get this unbelievable pump.

Well, when you have no glucose in your muscles, muscle glycogen, that kind of stuff, you're spiking lactic acid. So that lactic acid is a terrible thing to spike. So lactic acid, nitric oxide, and pyestrine levels are the cancer pathway. So what happens is you're going in there and you're spiking lactic acid and you're in this catabolic state. So then once the difference is when you work out, what I like to do is I go in there before I work out, have an intracellular cocktail.

maybe some orange juice, coconut water, maybe some sodium bicarbonate, one to three grams of salt. But I want to keep my blood sugar balance and my muscle glycogen stores filled as much as I can. You know, and that has to do with living my whole lifestyle.

months on end of balancing your blood sugar so you should have a good amount of muscle glycogen stored now when you go to the gym if you're a guy or a woman who likes to train you're training for an hour you're probably dumping a lot of your muscle glycogen stores

And then we just don't want to spike lactic acid for a long time. And then you can also get into catabolic state where you actually break it on the muscle. So what I also recommend is, you know, within 30 minutes of getting done with your workout, it's good to, again,

eat a protein, carbon, fat, and I also like adding some Ceylon cinnamon because the Ceylon cinnamon will really help with the muscle glycogen reuptake. So you go into a workout, you fuel your workout, you got to feel good during the workout. Don't overtax it. and then eat right after to replenish that muscle glycogen you lost. Again, when you're doing that, you're creating that balance of blood sugar and muscle glycogen, that kind of stuff. And I do see it where people go in there,

They work out for three hours. They drink two gallons of water. They do an hour of cardio. Can't sleep, no libido, cold hands and feet. And they think they're in this optimal state of health. And over the last six, seven years, you know, I went from... 158 pounds skinny fat to about 210. Wow. You probably can agree with this too. You know, there's a lot of men and women in the gym where you see them there for years.

And they're doing all these weird diets and they're just a little smaller, a little more brittle. And it's the next year. They look a little bit more brittle. And I say this to myself a lot. Like, obviously, I just want to go help the guy. But I'm like, I train for a half hour a day, five days a week.

I do like heavy resistance training. I walk for a half hour before my workout. That's it. I have trap veins, chest veins. I look great. It's because I'm in such a state of harmony. And these guys are in there. They're just killing themselves, drinking this water.

And it's weird. I guess it's not weird, but in that state, you don't think about it. But I ask myself all the time, like, would I even go work out if I'm doing, I'm busting my ass, can't sleep, cold hands and feet. And six years later, I'm like 10 pounds lighter.

and just don't stop and think because again we're in that stress state negative feedback loop and you're like hey i got my workout in and you have like a cuff and you still went and did it and then you can't sleep you're over taxing your central nervous system so i'm kind of my

outlook on weight training if you're new to the metabolic world you know and or in the usher and dominant group we should really be working out according to what our thyroid is doing so if you're in a really good place and you want to do some resistance training three four days a week that's great Make sure we're going in there fed. Make sure we're, you know, working on muscle glycation reuptake. But then if you're in a really stressed state, you know, maybe in that case, we'll do some walking.

get the blood flowing, you know, helping the gut, nutrients, hormones, thyroid hormone, maybe some bands. But I wouldn't recommend a lot of people, you know, like, hey, I need to lose weight and do two hours of cardio. I'm estrogen dominant. I know that. I have leaky gut. I know that.

I'm not reversing anything, but it's very important to correlate your working out training with your thyroid production. Because there's also guys that come in, they're like, oh yeah, I did squats five days a week. Well... nobody's in a place of health where you can do something that's so taxing in the central nervous system where you just feel good. So if you're in this case and you're like, hey, Jake, what type of work should I do?

Tone it back. I'm not a big fan of like CrossFit. I'm not a big fan of endurance training. We shouldn't be huffing and puffing, puking on the ground and thinking you actually raised your testosterone levels because you're tanking it in that case. Wow. You just really... That was very eye-opening on many levels. Let me see if I can remember my points. One is, before the pro-metabolic journey, I decided to go to CrossFit.

And I did it for nine months and I would show up unfed. I would show up and I'm, I mean, look at me. I'm, you know, I'm. not a big woman. I definitely have. I'm skinny. And as I get older, I'm skinny fat. And I don't have a lot of glycogen stores. So I think about... going to CrossFit then and showing up unfed, just drinking a ton of water, thinking it was good for my skin and good for everything.

you know, lifting heavy weights and doing a lot of cardio and then being almost puking, going to go get breakfast with my girlfriend after. a couple of times, not even making it to breakfast because I had to puke in the alley and then getting breakfast and eating like a pig, eating twice my weight, you know, just eating like two burritos or whatever and everything and having coffee, which which was just insane for me at the time. And then being sore for like literally a week.

Like seven, eight, nine days, unable to sit on the toilet or get up off the toilet because I was so sore. And it was that lactic acid. And there's no other way to describe it except for... acidic muscles. And that's why you just explained why. And then injury, when you're that stiff from the lactic acid, so easy to hurt yourself, so easy to pull your back out, so easy to get neck tension, head tension, scalp tension.

because of that, because of the acidity. And that's eyeopening. That's crazy. And then you said... okay, you said, you know, you can't go into the gym and be like, you know, peeking in between sets and just think, yay, I raised my testosterone. But what about for, you know, you're implying that that's a guy who is trying to get jacked?

What about these women who are perimenopausal menopausal who are going to the gym and just, just try, you know, they're not, they were never gymmers or they were, and they just lost it and they get to the gym and. How do you know if you're overdoing it? Because I myself personally, do I have enough glycogen stores today? I feel like I really want to work out good. And then I do and it...

sets off, I'm talking about before, and it sets off a viral exacerbation. I end up getting some kind of flare up in my body and now I'm ruined and I have to take another week off.

Talk to those women, women who are very sensitive to heavy weights, who are very sensitive even for their body type. Talk to those women for a minute. Yeah, so even men and women in general, you know, one of the... basis to working out and the whole metabolic world is what i would say to them women is you know learn how to monitor waking body temp and resting heart rate so this definitely correlates with you know hey am i overtaxing my central nervous system did i overdo it

Is this too strenuous for me? So a lot of the women I coach, you know, once we get in the program, there's even a point where, hey, you shouldn't even go work out. Like if there's a day where you're like, hey, I didn't sleep at all last night.

And then a couple other rules I have, if you don't, if you're on your way to the gym and you're not in a good mood, you shouldn't go work out, go back home, eat some food, you know, sit in the sun, do some deep breathing, you know, listen to some music, do something else you love that's de-stressing.

Don't even go. And then another rule is when you go there and you're feeling good, if you don't leave feeling even better, then you didn't get a positive eustress or positive hormone response from your workout. So going back to the blood sugar or awakened body temper and resting heart rate. Now, let's say you're in my coaching for a month and we got you from 95.6, maybe you're 96.7 and you're like, hey, Jake, I want to work out.

Well, some things to pay attention to. Again, are you sleeping through the night? Are you in a good mood? Are you going in their field? Are you eating right after? And if you're doing those things, it's good to start out low. Maybe do a half hour walking.

And then what I would say to those kind of women is I'd probably start them on some bands. It's good to get some full range of motion, you know, excrete the muscle a little bit. And then I would maybe do some buys and tries or something else I like to start off low with the women is.

Maybe some light kettlebells. So we'll do three sets of 10 on some kettlebell swings. Maybe we'll go into some goblin squats and maybe like a press and then a half hour walking. And then that's where we'll start at. And then we'll meet up the next day. Well, how'd you feel?

Well, I felt good. I was smiling. It kind of felt like my dopamine got better. And you know something? I actually slept through the night. So if you go in there and do that and you feel great and you wake up the next morning and you're, you know,

point six higher than your waking body temp was the night before then you did not over stress your sensor nervous system you got a positive eustress now i do have people that do coaching um i see a lot of guys doing the crossfit and i have some women clients

But we'll get into like two, three months of coaching in there. You know, I'll coach them along. We'll get rid of problems, solve things at the root cause. And I like to preach, you know, we want to be happy, hungry, horny. If you're in that, if you feel like that, you're in a really good place.

Because we want to be hungry all the time. You want those nutrients. Your libido should be good. And you should just be smiling. So I see a lot of people, men and women, they'll get to the three-month mark. Like, Jake, you know, my six problems that I signed up for coaching are gone or they're almost gone.

I feel fucking awesome. Well, my girlfriend wants me to do CrossFit with her today. And I'll say, you know what? I would not do the CrossFit. Let's just ramp up some resistance training. We'll add another day. If you're doing a three-day split, maybe we'll go to a fourth there, maybe some sprints.

So you get like a progesterone DHT response from doing something like sprints. They go do the CrossFit class and they're like, Jake, you know, I didn't sleep at all last night. My waking body temp went from 98.1 to 94.9. Why did this happen? Four days, they have brain fog. So it's really good to know your body, obviously, do the things that I talked about. But you just got to start out low. Whether you're a 6'8", 400-pound ripped guy, I would say the same thing.

We don't need you to go in and be like, hey, I'm He-Man, especially if your libido's low, you can't sleep, you got leaky gut, and you're a natural dominant male. You know, whether you're male or women, we don't need to go in there and just kill ourselves in the gym because then you're just spiking stress hormones. You're overtaxing your central nervous system.

And again, if you're keto, if your lactic acid keeps spiking, it's just going to, you know, put you in a worse state. So start low, do the things I said, and that's where I kind of would recommend the women to start too. There's a lot of clients and members in the group who had a history of working out really hard. Some of them were bodybuilders, some of them were fitness models. And a lot of women will be like, well, he's not talking to me because when I

go to the gym and I do CrossFit and I do these things, I feel awesome. I feel great. I'm sleeping. And they're like 25, 35, around that age. And then they... join the group later as they get into 35 36 37 because they're in perimenopause now And all of a sudden they can't figure out why all these things are happening. And they up their gym game because they're like, well, I'm gaining weight. And they do kind of what you did, you know, when back in the day where they're like,

I'm just going to do more because obviously I need more. When in actuality, they need to restructure how they're working out. In fact, more so because they have a history of that type of working out, right? And then they need to restructure it to suit, you know, being in perimenopause and being in menopause. So would you say that

if you wake up in the morning and your temperatures and pulse are not in range, you just should not go to the gym? Is that what you were saying? Yeah. Now, if you're on the lower end and you're in the beginning of your coaching or who you're working with or just your metabolic journey, but if you're...

you know, 97, eight, and we want to be 98, six in a good place. And you've been consistently building yourself up. Then yeah, I would go. And you feel good. Yeah, I would go. But then again, you know, One of the things we want to concentrate on is when you're in that optimal state, you are more resilient to stress. So if you're not sleeping through the night and you have cold hands of feet and you have six issues that you want to concentrate on, I would actually avoid the gym at that point.

do some walking. You know, when you walk, you know, you're, it's like your mineral and nutrient highway or pathway. It's the highway. So you're, you got thyroid hormone, minerals, hormones, all that kind of stuff, calcium, magnesium, this is flowing. So I would start doing that slowly and then watch, watch awake and body temperature. I feel like, Hey, I can walk half hour, three, four days a week. If you're in a brittle state, you can walk.

or three, four days a week or half hour, seven days a week, then we can start some, some light training. But yeah, if you're in a stress state or, you know, if you don't sleep, if you're like, Hey, I slept an hour. Last night, I toss and turn. I got to pee seven times. Do you think I could go do a light workout? No. Stay home. Eat some ice cream. Have some collagen and bone broth. Just enjoy your day and you got to really de-stress.

Um, so what about, okay, here's the thing I'm, I'm doing like all the right things. And then I am. I exert myself like I am carrying some, I'm doing some gardening. I'm carrying some plants back and forth to the car, carrying some potting soil. I'm really getting my heart rate up and I'm in the sun. And all of a sudden I am totally out of breath and I'm like, oh my God, I, and I've eaten well, I'm fueled, it's midday. And all of a sudden I'm like, oh my God, my cardio is so bad.

But I mean, I walk three to 7,000 steps a day. this is not hypothetical. This is literally me. You know, I'm going to the gym, I'm lifting the weights. And if I don't go to the gym, I stay home and I do booty bands and I do, you know, ankle weight workouts. Consistent, super consistent. My temp and everything looks good.

Cardio sucks. Like I can't, if I go on a hike with someone, I can't keep up with them. If it's hilly, you know, I can't keep up. I'm like, I gotta stop. What's up? Do I need to do cardio? Well, yeah. So when it comes to.

You know, I do a half hour walking today. That's all my cardio. I'm not a big fan of cardio, but I guess I would say long distance during training is a lot different. But if you're feeling like that to stop minimal things, then yeah, I would add some cardio in 20, 30, 40 minutes a day.

And then again, once you slowly ramp that up, you know, according to your system, waking body type, that kind of stuff, you will kind of strengthen the cardiovascular system. But there is a fine line between, hey, I'm doing...

so much cardio that instead of having this waste metabolism where i'm converting food and burning as energy you know when you get into the endurance training world your metabolism slows down it's efficient so you're running 26 miles a day and the thyroid's going okay how do we survive

So a little bit of energy and then thyroid tanks, estrogen spikes, you know, blood sugars off that kind of stuff. So yeah, I'm a big fan of, you know, if you want to do two walks a day and the sunlight in the morning, sun, evening, sun, or go to the gym and.

do something on the treadmill. But yeah, if I felt that out of breath, I would definitely ramp up the cardiovascular just a little bit. Then another thing you could do to, you know, help with CO2 levels and maybe not running out of feeling like a low oxygen. is when we do deep breathing practices. So, you know, in the nose for seven, hold in the lungs, exhale for seven. When you're doing this and then you actually re-inhale again. So what we're doing in this situation is when you...

or like some repeat bag breathing. The whole point is to increase your CO2. So when you're really, really low in oxygen, you know, or, you know, low in CO2, I guess you could say, what happens is the hemoglobin binds with your oxygen. And that's a normal process.

So when you're doing the deep breathing, CO2 comes along and they break apart. So then the CO2 binds with the oxygen. So that's like CO2 is an oxygen carrier throughout your system. So that's what I do. Some people are like, Jake, I'm pretty stressed out. I have a hard time walking.

So we do want some deep breathing practices first. So when you do this over time, you'll open up your lungs, but you're really re-oxidizing your system. And then that helps with the blood flow, nutrient, thyroid hormone, all that kind of stuff. But that's another thing I would probably concentrate on too.

And raising your CO2 levels is probably the one of the most beneficial things we could do for our overall health. And it's free. It's a big breathing. It reminds me of one of Ray Pete's videos, audio videos, where he... talked about women who have like, or I think just people.

who have like really vascular, like, you know, if you, I think he said, if you hold your arm down by your side and your veins pop out of your hand, he was talking about estrogen and CO2. Do you remember any of that? Yeah, slightly. You know, when you're low in CO2.

The overall thing that it's doing is it's calming your system completely down. So, you know, I have some clients that they're so sick, you know, cancer, MS, and they live by a mountain chain. I actually have them go sit above 4,000 feet. And one thing that Ray was kind of famous for is he lived in Eugene, Oregon in a cottage. So it was cold and he was an older guy. So he used to take a CO2 tank.

and put a black bag around his waist, him and his girlfriend, Catherine, and they'd shoot the CO2 in there, and then he'd get warm. And actually, you know, the last year when he was dying, he was doing the CO2 during podcasts. But yeah, once you ramp up the CO2, you definitely downregulate all your stress hormones. And if the veins are just popping and going crazy in your hands when it's down on your side, you probably have all the elevated stress hormones, not just estrogen. Right.

Yeah. I think in the same podcast, too, he was talking about putting estrogen right on the skin. It would de-stress the system, and it would stop with the high end. Estrogen or progesterone. Progesterone, excuse me. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. So let's see. We've covered a lot, and I really like that we focused on the whole working out aspect in blood sugar. Is there anything you want to add in there about anything else?

Yeah, we didn't get into high blood pressure. We can knock that out too. Yeah, high blood pressure, diabetes. But we kind of covered, we didn't really talk about diabetes, but we talked about blood sugar. But yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, kind of getting into the high blood pressure thing. During the podcast, we talked about there's a lot of mainstream things and influencers and doctors that are just telling you the wrong thing. I've coached 8,000 people and I would say 3,000 of them.

came to me, generally men, but I've seen some women in the same situation, is, you know, they're on three high blood pressure medications. And right away I'll tell them, well, did your doctor have you avoid salt? So you go into the doctor, hey, your blood pressure's kind of high.

We want you to avoid salt. Well, salt, they know that salt controls your aldosterone. So, aldosterone is a stress hormone. When salt's low, you're dehydrated, you live in a hot place, you need more salt. And when you don't have enough salt, your blood pressure spikes. Boom, boom, boom.

And I just see this so much. I see it in groups and I get emails and people are talking about this all the time. Now, how do I get off my high blood pressure medication? Well, the root cause is them telling you to avoid the salt. So I see this where, you know, they avoid salt and you go back in for two weeks.

And you've been avoiding the salt. Like, well, sir, your blood pressure is so high. We want to get you on a high blood pressure med. And then you go around preaching, you know, table salt's bad, salt's bad. It's going to kill your heart, that kind of stuff.

Well, we run on minerals. We need salt. So if you simply add, you know, I generally like to do about five grams of salt for my clients and myself. That's a generalization. And I have some people in Florida that own a CrossFit gym and they train outside.

The wife is doing 15 grams of salt and the husband's doing 20 because you're sweating out the salt. Wow. What I see going forward is then they go back in and they have, hey, take this fish oil to bring down your inflammation. Well, that stress is spiking your blood pressure even more.

Doctors love kind of, you know, reeling you in to say, hey, get on these six to eight medications for life. We'll get rich off it and you'll just stay sick. Again, that hamster in the wheel. And then I see people even after that get on a diuretic.

So you're on two, three high blood pressure medications. That's terrible for you in general. You know, you're avoiding salt, one of the main minerals, you know, main mineral sources we need. And then you're on a diuretic. So it's dehydrating your system. What happens when you're super hydrated?

your heart goes crazy so if you simply and i've done this with a thousand plus clients where we just start you know eating a metabolic diet but then we add in salt and six weeks later they'll be their next checkup at the doctor and like Why is your blood pressure? What have you been doing? And they'll say, yeah, I just added some salt. I was hungry that day. They'll give them some excuse. And the doctor will be pissy that, you know, you found out that we added in salt.

You know, in South, it's the same thing with like our neurons in the brain. They speak through sodium chloride. So I see people, you know, eliminate things like brain fog. And then when we go on the minerals, salt and excuse me, our bodies run on minerals and salt is just a bunch of minerals. So come on, I guess we're going to.

Can we go into magnesium a little bit too? I really want to touch base on that too. Yeah, I want to say something real quick and it probably will lead into the magnesium. But for example, there are elderly people who when they have salt, they get edema. immediately and so you know is in sure we can talk about well what are they eating it's not just salt is it it's a chinese food or it's like you know something that has a high sodium content but also is like

bad food. So I guess my question, because I get it with my family a lot, where I'm like, you guys, you need to have salt in your diet because they're all not doing salt. And they're like, I can't because when I have it, I don't feel well when I have the salt. And what do you say to that person? I would say that obviously there's going to be some things we need to change.

And that is not the root cause of you feeling bad. And people in modern Western diet will probably get some ionized table salt and pound that in like, hey, I feel shitty. There's probably added and stuff in there. But when it comes to, you know, one of the root causes of edema is low salt, low sodium.

So what happens is, you know, you run out of salt and your tissues start to get watery. And that's where edema comes in. And also even going further, like on a cellular level, you'll lose, you know, intracellular things like magnesium and calcium and sodium. They'll go outside the cell. And then you're at a cellular level, you have edema too.

If they have a high sodium content diet though, and that's why the doctor told them to get off, they're just not utilizing the sodium from that food. Is that what's happening? I would argue that it's the doctor's recommendation of salt. So when you have high blood pressure and you say, hey, I'm salting my steak or I eat McDonald's all the time. There's a ton of sodium. That's just a shit form of sodium.

But if I went to the doctor and said, hey, doc, I've had 8,000 clients do 5 to 10 grams of salt a day. People are like, are they dead? So I would argue that you're just not getting enough. And your recommendation from the doctor is so low that your blood pressure is high. No doctor will say, Hey, we want five to 10 grams of salt ever. And then you want it to be a high quality salt, red mints, Celtic sea salt. I really like, um,

Icelandic flake salt is unbelievable. Yeah, I love it. Me and my son have like a little jar on my desk here and my son runs by like that. Like Malden's? Yep. Yeah, so good. I would argue that. They're just not getting enough. And obviously, you know, eating poofers, processed foods, all this bad stuff, and thinking you're getting so much salt because you're salting your foods, you're just not getting enough. And I'll do that with my clients.

I'll ask him, so what kind of salt are you doing? Oh, I'm doing Redmonds or Icelandic. I'm like, how much are you doing? Well, I'm salting my food to taste. I think I'm getting a lot. So then I'll tell him, take out a teaspoon, fill up the Redmonds in a teaspoon, and that's five grams.

And then the next week we'll do a call. So I'm like, well, how much of the teaspoon did you do? Not even a fourth of it. Like I thought I was doing a lot. Yeah. Especially with Malden's because it's very salty. Yeah. It tastes, it's like.

saltier than just like regular salt right so yeah so salt is huge a big heavy leverage point and you know getting the right amount is gonna be awesome you're really lowering aldosterone you're keeping stress low the brain are talking through sodium chloride so that's another heavy leverage thing kind of beginning of metabolic health you know and and or if you're on high blood pressure meds which i've seen so even women i've had i've had about 10 women clients where they actually were on

the two and a diuretic, you know, and then they're taking extra cream. I'm like, yeah, you're, you're in a pretty, pretty rough place. Yeah. So talk about magnesium in that way. Yeah. So one of my favorite.

supplements there is out there is magnesium and you people have probably heard hey you know you've probably heard this magnesium is used in 400 enzymatic reactions in the body it's in a lot of like the test boosters we think of it as like bringing down inflammation

And some people will use it as kind of a stool softener when that's not really the point, but it can help soften the stool with parasol contractions. But some of the main things that it's not talked about enough is living a modern Western diet and lifestyle.

our magnesium stores are probably 2,000 milligrams in the negative. What I mean by that is when you're eating seeds, grains, nuts, beans, McDonald's, what's happening or overtraining, working a stressful job, initiating a relationship, all of the above.

that's causing inflammation. And when your body sees that you have inflammation, it takes your magnesium stores first to bring down inflammation. So if you have like a torn, you know, AC joint or rotator cuff, and it's bothering you every single day, and you're eating modern, like...

you know, modern day lifestyle, food, that kind of stuff. And you're taking 400 milligrams of, let's say like a steroid or glycinate. Well, you're already in the 2000 negative and you don't have enough for all these other bodily functions I'm going to go into.

When it comes to magnesium, some of the big things that we need to concentrate on is, one, we're probably in the super negative because of the lifestyle we're living. And then when you switch to metabolic eating fruits, roots, tubers, shellfish, oysters.

uh liver orange juice they're packed with magnesium but even with eating like that i would also argue we need more and this is some of the reasons so when it comes to pyruvate dehydrogenase that's kind of a big term for hey this is opening up our

utilization or like our sugar highway. We want pyruvate dehydrogenase to work because if you listen to the podcast, how much do we talk about blood sugar? I love it. It's a main thing. Well, if pyruvate dehydrogenase isn't working, we're not even being able to use the sugar.

So a lot of people don't understand you need a magnesium molecule to combine with pyruvate hydrogenase in order for it to work. So it's a required enzymatic reaction or a cofactor for pyruvate hydrogenase to work. And then going deeper into it. When we eat food, the food goes through private hydrogenase, and then it goes through the Krebs cycle, and it turns into an electron, and then you have the electron transport chain. So I like to tell my clients, this is like a beautiful metabolism river.

So at the end of the electron transport chain, you make heat, water, CO2, and ATP. Well, nobody talks about, hey, magnesium molecule is the required enzymatic reaction to come and grab ATP that's just sitting there. Otherwise, it's not going anywhere. And that carries it into your thyroid for your thyroid to use it. And then another bigger one, even bigger than that for men and women, when you eat cholesterol, you know, we convert cholesterol to different things. We eat it, that kind of stuff.

However, in order to carry your cholesterol into your mitochondria, into your mother pool of hormones, pregnenolone, and to make progesterone, to make DHT testosterone, you need that magnesium molecule to combine with it. And then the last kind of heavy leverage one is with D3. You know, vitamin D3 is a direct precursor to making protective hormones. It's also a direct precursor to thyroid utilization. It helps your thyroid work.

So a lot of people will take like a doctor's 10,000 IUs and they're eating terrible. Like, Jake, my D3 is just not coming up, you know? So you take some magnesium. Again, it's that enzymatic reaction required. It needs that molecule in order to use it.

Another deeper topic, we talked about like the cholesterol. When you're sitting there with really high cholesterol, it's generally from inflammation and or, again, you're low in magnesium because you have all this cholesterol and it just needs to grab the cholesterol and convert it into something like progesterone.

so magnesium is an absolute heavy hitter for men women young old kids i would say everybody and when you look at like a guy and like my like level of energy production you know i eat 5500 calories a day. I train a lot and my mind's on fire all the time. I coach adults during the day and I coach the kids during the night and I love what I'm doing. But I definitely want to run on an optimal level. So pre-workout, I'll do Georgie Dinkoff's Magnoil.

And then again, you're thinking about, hey, I'm using my sugar. So I'm doing the intracellular cocktail. You know, I'm using my ATP. So my thyroid's working. And then I'm boosting my testosterone, you know, and then, you know, I'm grabbing my D3, that kind of stuff. So I'm actually feel more athletic.

And then if you want to run on a high-functioning level, you're using magnesium and all these other places. So it's one of my first things that I like to introduce. And when you break it down like that, it's like, wow. Because usually people...

We'll take a bunch of mag, and again, I agree, if you need to soften a stool, yeah, it takes a mag. But then I would argue, you know, when you're in 1,200, 1,600, 1,800 negative, and the mag kind of softens the stool and you kind of shit it out, you ain't get to use it for... to make progesterone as a woman. So it's such a heavy hitter. And again, inflammation, that kind of stuff too. It's really bringing that down and we're all inflamed, you know, in general. Magnesium burn rate is high.

What about people who have like opposite reactions than they should have to magnesium? I see this a lot. I see people who take magnesium and then they're like, I can't take it because.

I have a bad reaction. A lot, I see it. And I can't help but think it's got something to do with like genetic mutation, something to do with not converting. What do you think? Yeah, I would, I guess first I would look at the supplement what are the additives because i i see one of the worst additives out there i see silicon dioxide a lot and what that is is you know at the supplement companies um supplements go through the line and there's a machine that sprays them in

and silicon dioxide is a flow agent so it doesn't clump up and that's one of the main things i see in the supplement world that every big company is using and it's nanoparticles of glass so you could be having some kind of gut reaction from that and then Also some kind of weird fillers. And then if you just have severe gut dysbiosis, maybe your gut's not liking it. But again, what I would do at that point, again, with Georgie's supplements, I'm not against...

like a high quality, like magnesium glycinate or something, but Georgie supplements are topical and it's a hundred, a hundred percent absorbable. So it's just going right in your bloodstream. That's how I would have them try. But I guess I would, in that case, I'd have to look at.

you know, your food, your issues, to see what's really going on. There's probably something pretty easy to pinpoint, but generally it's the additives or some kind of weird high serotonin in the gut, leaky gut. A lot of times, you know, when people... again going back to we keep talking about living this modern western lifestyle you know everything we're eating processed foods seeds grains nuts beans we're really causing inflammation on the gut and you know i've seen several people with leaky gut

Where again, like you said, they're like, hey, Jake, I tried this supplement, it's hurting. And what happens is you have gap junctions like this along your intestinal wall. And when it's super inflamed, they go like that. So then what's happening at that point, all these things that are supposed to just go through this.

I guess, tunnel, all of it's going in your bloodstream. So I have seen people, like you said, you take magnesium and you have some kind of weird gut dysbiosis or leaky gut, it's going in the bloodstream instead of just going through. But again, you have to kind of really look at their situation. I'm glad you said that about the deficit of magnesium because actually today...

One of the members in the group, and you might have seen this, she said, I can't sleep. I've done everything this group recommends, and I can't seem to sleep. I only sleep for a few hours a night. What am I doing wrong? please don't say anything about magnesium because it's a slap in the face. And I had to giggle about it because it's kind of like this perspective that I don't need magnesium. It's not, magnesium is not for me. And so I said exactly what you said. I said,

People are recommending magnesium because it's one of the key minerals in sleep, in the ability to sleep, in your circadian rhythm. You need it. And the reason you're not feeling it for sleep is probably because you're so... efficient that it's going to other things and you're just not taking an F ultimately. And yeah, she was not crazy about that answer, but I think people could, they come around to these notions. They come around to these concepts that it's, essential.

And now Morley Robbins was saying it's actually 4,000 functions. It's not just the 350, 400 enzymatic processes, but it's actually something like 3,000 functions, metabolic functions. enzymatic functions um processes so it's pretty pretty essential yep and get a lot from i like supplementing and i like eating a ton of it yeah Yeah, we definitely need it and it's a game changer. It's one I would start with if you're new to the metabolic world or that kind of thing.

Well, how can people reach you if they want to coach with you? Yeah, so I do have a coaching website. It's onyxcoaching.me. And you can see my credentials. There's a bunch of testimonials on there. And maybe I can send you my calendar link for people to... Get on there. And then if you also check out, I have a Facebook group. It's Onyx. That's my dog's name. Onyx Facebook group inspired by our metabolic health repeat.

So you can go on there and check it out, reach out to me. And then, you know, just my Facebook, Jake Miner and my Instagram. There's a wealth of stuff on my Instagram and in my Facebook group. So, yeah, if you're struggling, you know, physically, mentally, emotionally, and you feel like.

man, I've been doing this forever. I've been through the ring or keto vegan carnivore. Or if you just have some kind of severe problem that really needs extensive time and one-on-one coaching, I'd love to help you out. Or if you just need help weight training, I have all kinds of certifications, that kind of stuff.

If you want to say I'm super passionate, I'm a genuine guy and I love helping people and this is why I choose to do this for a living because I love it and I'm good at it and it's just cool to implement what I've implemented and teach people I learn and you get to see it. It's one of the most...

It's the most fulfilling job I've ever had. I've done a lot of things in life, but metabolic health coaching is awesome. Thanks for joining us, Jake. I appreciate you very much. And I can't wait to work with you. I'm excited. Thanks for having me, Kitty. Okay, everyone. Thanks for joining us. And thanks for listening in on Jake Miner. You can reach out to him. The information is in the show notes. And you can seek him out for coaching. And you can also join the Estrogen Dominance Support.

group where he is a moderator and is of tremendous help. And also you can check back with us. You can go on to healthygutgirl.com or you can go to my sub stack, which is stuff your doctor should know. Or you can join us on the Estrogen Dominance Support Group. Or you can reach out to me on HealthyGutGirl underscore to find out all about the upcoming...

private coaching groups and programs, and all the other info and exciting things that are about to happen in this new year. I wish you a blessed, blessed, happy new year. God bless you and your family. Take care.