Listener Mail: The Moon in Silver Dreams

the fun creepy stuff. That's right. So yeah, we're doing horror movies all month on Weird House Cinema. We're talking about weird topics as we usually do on on our regular core episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays all month. But Seth, since you're I mean, we all love music here, but you especially are a music guy, I figured it would be a good way to kick off today's episode to ask you what you are are spending on the record player this month? What? What is? What are some of

your favorite seasonal Halloween themed albums? I mean, it's it's it's a it's a rocky road because a lot of it is geared towards children. There are a lot of like novelty children's Halloween albums, and most of them are actually not very good, you know, like it's it's kind of a garbage pile more or less. Like if you ever actually take the time to listen to the actual Monster Mash album by Bobby Boris Pickett, it's not a very good album. You could, of course, the Monster Mashes Beloved.

We all love that song. The album not so much, you know, it's what what are the b sides on the Monster Mash? Oh my gosh, they all monster themed. Not only are they monster themed, but they are like

woefully uninformed about what a monster even is. Like it starts talking about like the details of like Frankenstein's Monster or the Wolfman, and like the little you know, the little the little things that we all know as monster aficionados are all just false, like like what their weaknesses are, what their strengths are, who they are as human beings? Is doc or Jekyla and Mr Hyde actually the Wolfman?

Like they just don't actually clearly. Bobby bores Picket had a hit with The Monster Mash and then just filled in the rest of the album with a bunch of garbage they made up like in a week. So it's that kind of things. So so there's a lot of that kind of stuff out there, but there's some great

stuff too, both both like fun, nostalgic and modern day. Um, I'll give you one of each, Okay, because this month, if the listener doesn't know, I, I host a music podcast in my spare time called Rusty Needles Record Club. Look it up wherever you find uh, you know your podcasts. But this month, of course, October, we're doing what all great spooky people do. We're doing four spooky albums throughout the month of October's were a weekly podcast. So the

best Halloween album of all time. It's a bit contentious because there are multiple versions of it, but any version you find will be a pretty good version. It's called Forgotten Freakouts, Lost Halloween Hits nineteen fifty four through nineteen seventy seven. Okay, I love it already. It's so good. Everything is like a real like Dr Demento, like surf rock nostalgia hits. Everything is like a parody. Everything is like, um,

it's it's a novelty. Everything is a novelty song, but it all has that kind of like integrity of just something that's lasted throughout the years. A lot of surf rocky stuff, a lot of like a lot of kitch, A lot of kitch. That's the best one by Fall I see hold on now I see tracks by Lee Christofferson. Is that brother of Chris or no relation? Do you have to tell you? I couldn't tell you. Okay, what about secondly? There's a secondly? What about Lee, the Big Masher?

Lily Like? Aren't these names amazing? I would say, uh, nearly every single one of these artists. I have no idea who they are. Nearly every single one of them must be just a forgotten one hit. Wonder if these were even hits. I can't even begin to tell you. But they're here. They're here in their grays. Is the Big Masher a play on the Big Bopper? I'm sure right it had to have been. It had been like

a joke or something. So it's like a hello baby baby, but the call is coming from Dracula rights right, yeah, done with the bell of the ghostie voice. That's fun. Okay, I gotta listen to this one as soon as we finished recording here. It's a good one. And now now, yeah, keep an eye out for it because I know, like, for example, the version on Spotify is missing a lot of tracks, and then like the version I got I got off band Camp years ago, I know there are

physical cassettes of this. Just keep your eye out. It's the best compilation of come across. Do your best to find the full version. Listening audience, Okay, now let's bring this modern modern. Have you ever heard of a band called the Marshmallow Ghosts. No, I haven't. The Marshmallow Ghosts is so so good. What it is so Actually, this is somewhat local to you, Joe. You live in Atlanta, Georgia. Over in Savannah, there's a record label called grave Face Records.

It is founded and run by Ryan grave Face of Black Moth, Super Rainbow. Okay, next next time you're in Savannah, make sure you go there, Joe, because next door is

like a like spooky house of mysterious museum stuff. You know, so it's like, uh, you know, mermaids were like Fiji mermaids, you know that kind of stuff, like real Ripley's Believe it or not, Pete Barnum type stuff you know, so anyway, exactly so so so anyway, Ryan grave Face is just a cool dude who runs a cool label and he has many bands, but one of them is an annual Halloween themed band called The Marshmallow Ghosts, where every year they pick a new theme they have, like a new

release method they do, like just a weird little thing every year. This year, I've already pre ordered their record. This year it's all about j H. Holmes, so that'll be fun. You know, we're reviewing their one this year on my podcast. That one is called The Witching Hour. The theme of that one was there's a woman hosting a radio show and like, I think it's her either her her ex wife or her ex girlfriend. What they died, so I don't know if that counts as x whatever.

Their former wife, her former girlfriend who died keeps calling into the radio show. But this woman's just still trying to do her job and play music. So it's like a little radio play, but also with new music peppered in throughout by the Marshmallow Ghosts and others like it's it's just cool stuff like that. So check out grave Faced Records, in particular, check out the Marshmallow ghosts nice.

Oh and I guess lastly, check out Rusty Needles Record Club because that's where I'll be talking about these things. If you like talking about music or hearing about music, Rusty Needles Record Club it's a great show. I I myself may pop on their in in the near future. You've been on there in the past, and yeah, we hope to get you on again very soon. Alright, Sece, you're ready to talk some stuff to blow your mind? Listener mail definitely okay. This first message really got my

hopes up. It ultimately turned out to be a complete bust, but it's a lot of fun and I really appreciate this listener getting in touch anyway. So recently Rob and

I did a couple of episodes about elf shot. These are very much in the seasonal October Vain because elf shot was a folk belief that used to be found, especially in the British Isles, and the belief was that livestock and sometimes people would become ill, or they would even die, or they would experience mysterious pains because they had been attacked with supernatural weapons by the invisible folk, such as fairy darts or elf arrows, and one of the sources we looked at was a nineteen article in

the journal Antiquity by an author named Thomas Davidson which collect did a bunch of alleged cures for elf shot, and one of these cures was sourced to the Shetland Islands, and it read as follows. Quote A variant prescription from the same area directs the wise woman to take tar, a needle, a bible, a firebrand, and some fairy crabs.

Waving the burning brand, she walked three times wider shans, meaning counterclockwise, around the cow, jabbing the animal with the needle, waving a leaf of the Bible over its back, and muttering an incantation. The firebrand was placed in a pot of tars and set at the cow's head so that the fumes would make her cough. She was then given the fairy crabs to eat alive. The ashes of the firebrand were later mixed with the tar into three pills,

which were administered to the animal on three successive mornings. Now, Rob and I were unable to figure out what the quote fairy crabs referenced in this cure actually were. Were they literally some type of crab is this just a cute name for some other kind of animal or object. There is actually a species of crustacean that is sometimes called a fairy crab, but that seems to be in twenty one century sources, and it cannot be what the source is talking about. For one thing, because it's native

to the opposite side of the world. It's a Pacific squat lobster around Australian Indonesia. And also I think the appellation there is much later than this folk belief. So we were asking listeners, does anybody have any idea what the Shetland Islands fairy crab might be? All of that to set up that listener, Carl wrote in with what it first looked like a very promising solution to our question.

So Carl says, Dear Robin Joe, while listening to elf Shot Part two, I paused to find the attached search result, which seems to indicate that fairy crabs are some sort of insect found on the underside of leaves, and then Carl touched some search results for us. Uh. Now, the actual text appearing in the Google search preview here was very promising because it sounded like a scientific description of an animal, including a very official sounding Latin scientific name

for the species. And it's an animal, as said by Carl, described as spending the majority of its life on the ground that roams around and behavior similar to a tiger beetle. Now, this was very exciting because it did look legitimate at first until you look at the domain that this result is coming from, and it was dv and R dot com. Yeah, at what point did you realize the the U R L there? When? When did that? Well, pop pop, the

pop the balloon of your hopes. Well, my hopes were still up because I was like, Okay, this is a dv and art post that's referencing something I could look up else. Okay, So I wanted to yeah, yeah, and then find the the like the scientific name of this animal, and then search for it in other sources and see what's out there. Uh, And yet I didn't really find anything when I tried that. I tried some other search terms,

and uh. I I kept going, still thinking maybe there was something here, but unfortunately I realized that this is really the only source for this information and it appears to be some user generated content on deva and art, which, as best I can tell, is some type of fictional bestiary or fictional animal taxonomy that includes scientific sounding names and scientific sounding descriptions, except with some cryptic references to obviously some kind of fantasy context, Like it says that

this animal inhabits the barren lands. So so I think this is this is just somebody creating some kind of

fun fictional world. But it kind of reminds me of uh Seth that I don't remember if you're actually on the show at this point, so this may be before your time, but it reminds me of when we were covering the invention of cinema and Louis La Prince, who was an inventor of an alternate early form of of moving pictures, uh, alternate to Edison's method, and we we came across this what originally looked like a historical paper but in fact I think was actually a fictional found

document that was purporting to uncover Thomas Edison confessing in a diary entry to the murder of Louis La Prince, and this this fictional art. I don't think it was a hoax. I think it was intentionally meant to be a piece of fiction to be understood as such. But it was not labeled that way, and so I think people got confused to the extent that some good looking, kind of serious articles about La Prince reported the plot

of this fictional document as fact. That that's that's a hard part about creating historical fiction at all, just period, full stop, is that sometimes you're too convincing, and sometimes people don't understand things like satire and and they can't figure it out. I mean, that's the same reason why so many news sources accidentally, um, you know, make make their reference back to the onion, just because they don't know they can't figure it out. It's yeah, it's it's

it's fascinating. And you know, I'm looking at these drawings for all, not just the fairy crab, but for the orc crab and the elve crab and the goblin crab, and I have to say, like clearly these are done, you know, quickly with like a like rough hand more or less. But they're like it's not like a child's drawing.

They took the time to like get the proper number of legs, that took the time to make them, you know, bilateral cemetry, you know, like they they they clearly have something that they're going for with this, So I commend them on their effort, you know. Yeah, congratulations to DV and art user the Siren Lord. Yeah exactly for some some some convincing world building. Anyway, do appreciate the message, Carl. Even though this didn't pan out, it does seem like

the fairy crab mystery remains. It's good to know that other people are considering the fairy Crab. That perhaps someone else went down the same train of thought that we're going through now, which is, wow, I heard this word, what could it possibly mean? And perhaps they also couldn't

find any informations they had to craft it themselves. You know that That is the way a lot of mythology continues, is just a lack of information and then filling in your own gaps and then someone else goes, oh, that's plausible, and then it becomes canon. You know. So yeah, may maybe this is the birth of that. All right, I'm ready to move on to this message from Matt about cattle mutilation. Are you ready? Seth most definitely all right, Matt.

This this listener has written several times before to talk about or to speak from personal experience about topics related to farming and ranching, and so Matt says, good day fellas loved the cattle mutilation episode. ILL have an opener like that, but that I would add a few thoughts from an agricultural perspective. I've seen many of the visuals described in the episode and can confirm predators play a

big role in the avian realm. Corvid's meaning ravens and crows do play a significant part, and one which I don't think the average person quite understands. Here's a couple of examples for you, both pertained sheep, but the general idea applies to cattle as well. Warning to the listeners

this will get a little bit grizzly for a few paragraphs. Here, Matt writes, I know some sheep farmers, for example, that have to keep ornaments reminiscent of owls and other species at the entrances to their barns, because if they don't, ravens will fly in and kill their lambs by pecking out their eyes. Further feasting commences from there if there's time, but they always go for the eyes first. It's pretty metal. Similarly, I've talked to sheep farmers in Ireland who lose full

grown sheep to predatory birds. It happens in part because sheep become immobilized when on their backs. You might have seen this if you ever watch somebody shear a sheep's wool. If they fall over or misstep on the mountain or pasture for whatever reason, or become immobilized for another reason, the birds will go straight for the exposed soft tissues. This includes the inner thigh and gut by which the birds peck their way into the fallen animals innards, nasty

stuff wow. Although cattle are much larger, calves can be particularly vulnerable to these kinds of things, particularly if they become immobilized for many of the reasons previously discussed, but in general, these things can happen to livestock of all kinds and sizes. I can also confirm that bloating can create clean looking tears, slash slice like damage to flesh.

Like a lot of these things, bloating is something which also freaks people out if they're not familiar with the physiological process, though it is generally unpleasant for just about anyone. You can see why a bloated bovine with its legs sticking out at odd angles a rupture here and there, and a clean cut on the belly does look pretty odd. I'm sure a few cattle mutilation calls were made by folks who were less than experts. Anyway, just a bit

of my own experience. Nothing more surgical than a hungry corvette. Matt uh. Thanks for sharing your experience, Matt. Yeah, one thing I wonder about so, you know, we did the episode on the cattle mutilation panic of the seventies, and then we did the movie The Return, which is a you know, a fictional thriller about aliens and cattle mutilation. And one of the things we saw in the movie, at least was that the rancher was the one who was saying, you know, I've never seen a cow that

looked like this. This is you know, completely out of the ordinary. Animals couldn't have done this to it. But I wonder if it was often actually people with a lot of agricultural experience who were relaying the reports that allegedly happened in the seventies. I wonder if times it was like the cop who arrived on the scene, who put together the report that ends up sounding really crazy

to somebody. And also you mentioned in that episode that a lot of the cattle mutilation happened on the smaller farms, not on the larger farms. That might have something to do with it too. Just like the law of averages, if you have ten cows, you may never see certain rarer you know, horrible diseases that can attack to your cows. But if you run a large, you know, cattle ranch that has thousands upon thousands of cows, I bet you've

actually seen a little bit of everything. Like when you come across this is like, oh, I know what this is. I saw this once before, so so that that might have something to do with it too, is just pure law of averages versus a small cattle ranch and an enormous, you know, cattle ranch. That's a really good point. Yeah, But as always, Matt, thank you for providing the agricultural perspective and for letting us know once again just how sick the corvids are. Alright. This next message is in

response to a somewhat older episode. It was the series we did called The Lesser of Two Crab Claws, which was about asymmetry and animal bodies, And this is from Morgan. Morgan says, Hi, Robert and Joe, longtime listener Morgan here, and I've been catching up on my backlog of podcasts. Started maternity leaves, so I've thankfully been blowing through a large chunk of it during the day while my older one is a daycare and my husband works parentheses. Baby

hasn't come yet. I just listened to the series on biological asymmetry, which included your annotation about cilia, and as a brief reminder here, the context was that silia are these tiny hair like filaments that line the surfaces of some cells in our bodies, and one of the ideas we talked about in that episode was how silia can create currents in the flu it surrounding cells, and how the role of cilia in early embryonic development, maybe in creating,

in guiding the current of fluid moving around the developing embryo, may have something to do with the link between having typically functioning cilia and having the common a asymmetrical arrangement of internal organs, you know, with the heart on the left and the liver on the right and so forth, And how there are conditions where if you're silia seems to function atypically or to be damaged in some way, this can lead to having your internal organs swapped to

the other side. So Morgan continues, when you were talking about the functionality of cilia and a recessive human trait of cartagen or syndrome, and how oftentimes people diagnosed with the syndrome have organs flipped, it made me have to stop and rewind and listen again. I have a brother who was born very premature and as a baby and

young boy, was very medically involved. From what I've been told through my mom's journey as my brother's medical advocate, I've learned that part of why my brother was so medically complicated was the cilia in his lungs pushing mucus from respiratory illnesses down instead of up and out, causing severe pneumonia regularly and eventual deterioration of his respiratory cilia. Along with the complications of his premature birth, respiratory illnesses,

as well as open heart surgery in his youth. My family also learned that my brother's internal anatomy is completely reversed, including how his blood flows parentheses in verse us total us. When my brother has had the heartbeat leads connected to him in a medical setting. If the healthcare professional does not know of this internal trait, his heartbeat on the monitor will read upside down. However, if the leads are

reversed on the machine, it will appear normal. Now, as he is an adult, his health has improved and treatment of illnesses is relatively minor compared to how things were when he was younger. I will probably have to explain to doctors in the few sure my brother's medical idiosyncrasies because of his rare and unique medical history as he gets older. But until then, it's just a random, weird fact that I know about him. Thank you for the interesting podcast, and keep up with the topics that keep

me engaged, Sincerely, Morgan. That's wonderfully fascinating, And I can't imagine like how many situations that must come up and when it creates just kind of like you know, little things like you know, from something as simple as just you know, checking your blood pressure all the way up to like, oh no, I have to get my appendix removed. I need to really assure my doctor where it is

in my body. Like what a wild set of like strange complications that must create for you, you know, Yeah, the Morgan definitely glad to hear his his health has improved since he's gotten older, for sure, and I'm glad that it seems like there are workarounds for this, like like putting the leads on backwards and stuff like that. That's really fascinating to me. Yeah, So thanks for getting in touch, Morgan. Okay, a couple of messages about gimbals.

One of them comes from Eric. Eric says, greetings, gentlemen, I really enjoyed your episode about gimbals. There was one really fascinating use of gimbals that is an obscure but important part of the Apollo program, the lunar Lander test vehicle. I think I've also seen this called the lunar Lander Research vehicle. Uh. Eric says this was basically a tube frame lunar lander shaped vehicle with a turbojet engine on

a gimbal. The jet engine was on a gimble to provide a constant downward thrust of about five sixths of g I mean standard acceleration due to Earth's gravity to make the vehicle behave as if it was in the one six of g of lunar surface gravity. So does that make sense if if the Moon has one sixth of Earth's gravity. If you provide down thrust a an acceleration creating five six worth of Earth's gravity, then it will be like simulating being on the service of the Moon. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

at least for the this this test vehicle. Yeah yeah, but of course you would have to mount the engine so that it's down thrust was always aimed straight towards the Earth's center of mass, right, so like if you slightly moved over, it wouldn't be thrusting diagonal to to Earth's center of mass. You know. I feel like there were dozens of, you know, very early like eight video games all about creating that thrust to try and like

land like a lunar vehicle. And they definitely did not have any gimbals in those video games that would have made them much easier. Huh oh. Sorry. Anyway, Eric goes on saying it was built to allow the astronauts to practice landing on the moon. Uh And then he mentioned an incident wherein one of these vehicles, Neil Armstrong had to eject once to avoid to avoid a crash, but that he still claimed it was a vital part of training for lunar land ing. I thought you might appreciate

this weird but super cool use of gimbals. Have a great one, Eric, that is that is interesting, Thank you Eric. Yeah, okay. This next message about gimbals is in response to our discussion about a device described in an ancient text called on Machines by the Greek author named Athanius Mechanicals, who probably lived in the first century b c. And the device in this text is described as some kind of

suspension system for siege weaponry at sea. So you would have siege weaponry of some kind that was on a ship or maybe being carried between ships. Uh, and it was suspended somehow in this in this device called the pithecon, which translates to little ape, and the somewhat mimics a gimbal, and we were wondering why it would be called the little ape. Well listener Christian wrote in with an interesting guest. Christian says sailors would occasionally capture monkeys or apes if

given freedom to roam the ship. These arboreal creatures would naturally be seen swinging from the rigging. It seems logical to me that sailors would make the connection between the motion of a swinging ape and the motion of an early gimbal, especially if the gimbal was suspended by ropes. Interesting idea. I wonder how pronounced that practice actually was, because I think, I, you know, obviously we've seen like films and books that have that kind of leftover. You know,

the Pirates the Caribbean movies had a little monkey. The I believe its name was like Jack Sparrow Jr. Or something. Um what really? Yeah? I think also, um, yet the Pippi Longstocking books and movies also had a Mr. Nielsen a little monkey. So yeah, that's interesting, Like like I know the trope for sure, I wonder how accurate that that really was, But it makes perfect sense that it is accurate. I'm trying to think of other ancient evidence

for sailors to king monkeys on ships. I mean, I think about how when we did the episode on the the Tempest Stone, the ancient Egyptian inscription that has been alleged or at least argued by some scholars to describe whether an atmospheric phenomena related to the volcanic eruption at Theora around six b c E, also known as the

Minor Interruption. So in that episode we were talking about the some of the leftovers, the ruins of the civilization that existed at at Theora also today down as Santorini, and one of the places there is is a place where it has been uh like an ancient building has been uncovered and in the wall there are these paintings of monkeys that are very accurate monkeys. And I remember the this at least suggested some kind of situation of monkeys being brought on ships to these islands in the Aegean.

You know that one word you said, they're very accurate monkeys, because I think that's actually a very important part of like ancient art is like you can use that as a like a determination whether or not this artist has only heard of this creature or that whether they've actually seen it. Because man, there is nothing more wonderful than having an artist to draw a horse that's never seen a horse wonderful, or giraffe or rhinoceros or yeah, rhinoceros,

say an elephant. You can find these pictures all over the place ancient artists who have never actually seen the animal they're depicting. Is a is a very fun rabbit hole to go down the Outbrecht Durer illustration of the rhinoceros really stands out in my mind where it looks like a some kind of armored vehicle, I mean, and and it makes sense to like if I have if I had never seen an armadillo and someone describes it to me, and they're like draw that, Like, Okay, this

is gonna be fun. We're gonna have a very strange little monster here, you know, because in your imagination it definitely turns monstrous or anything else, you know. Okay, Sethew, ready to talk a little bit of weird House cinema. Alright, a couple of messages here. The first one is from Mike, subject line October weird House request. Mike says, Hey, Robin Joe, nightmare on Elm Street, three Dream Warriors. That's the opening sentence. I feel this is a bloated treasure trove of weird

Halloween goodness. You guys have made mention of this film here and there across the span of Weird House. While it might not be weird enough for inclusion, I'm certain you guys can find plenty of fodder to make it. So, Hey, we've got John Saxon and this one not to mention Ja Ja Gabord, Dick Cavitt, and Frank dear A Bantu Dearra bant of the Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption and most

recently notable Walking Dead screenwriting fame. Mike Well, Mike, I don't know if we'll do that on Weird House, but we did directly cover Nightmare three Dream Warriors one time when I was a guest on Movie Crush with Chuck Bryant, uh Seth. Do you have thoughts on Dream Warriors. I think it's wonderful. I think it is perhaps peak Nightmare on Elm Street. Perhaps, I mean, you know, I think actually depends on your mood. If you're in the mood

for a creepy or nightmare on Elm Street. The first one is actually really solid for that there there are there is really much humor yet. But but if you're if you're looking for like the goofy Freddy Krueger, I mean, Dream Warriors is probably the peak of that in every every fun way. You know. I think much like when people think about Jason Vorhees, even though he appears technically in all of the Friday Thirteenth movies, they're thinking of

the Jason Vorhees probably in like part seven or eight. Yes, you're right like that, they're probably thinking of the Kane Hotter version of Jason. Yeah. And so we have the same actor playing Freddy Krueger through all the Nightmare movies, but Freddie is presented differently in these different movies. And I think when people think of Freddy Krueger, they're mainly thinking of Part three, speaking of ostension, uh, Dream Warriors, Part three is like the example of Freddy Krueger that

people think of as most characteristic of the character. Yeah. And I actually I think that's one reason why people were so down on the Jackie Earl Hayley version of Freddy Krueger was that he was definitely depicting, you know, part one Freddy, which really isn't funny. It's it's more sinister. It's much more creepy, you know than anything else. So you know, but thankfully we have both. So if you want creepy Freddy, you got it. If you want fun, loving,

camp be pun making Freddy, you got that too. And it has the dock In song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's very much um inspired by it's it's decade. It's the most eighties tastic, not just of any of the Nightmarre on M Streets, but perhaps just of any eighties or her film. Like it's it's extremely eighties and in in a in a fun way. So yeah, I know I like that

one quite a bit. It's probably it's it's definitely one of my favorites, if not my actual favorites of the Nightmare series. Oh but but but but to put a put a cap on that, I think you should cover for Weird House, because I think we should do everything for Weird House, because you're right, like, it's it's not quite strange enough. The writer is correct, you you and Robert correct, but it's still fun and fun is fun. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we have a necessary like bar

for strangeness to make it onto the show. I mean, criteria pretty loose. One more message to close us out today. This is from Matt, a different Matt than the earlier Messagett says, good morning, team. I have to say that I still get locked up whenever I hear the word phantasm, simply because my dad thought it was a great idea to have me watch it when I was three. Theaters I almost doubt this story. Well, I mean, I I'll just wait to hear the rest of the message. But

three is shocking. Three in theaters in theaters, Okay, Matt says. This goes in line with him dragging me to the theaters when I was ten to see aliens parentheses a great birthday present in hindsight, but for a ten year old me terrifying. Even seeing the ball floating through the air still gives me an eye twitch. Hooray for bad

late seventies early eighties parenting styles. As an aside, now, you might remember in the Phantasm episode, Rob and I had a particular fixation on the character of Reggie Banister, who is a is about as cool a cat as you can imagine. But we were trying to describe his hairstyle, which is bald on top with the horseshoe going around the sides and then a ponytail in back. That's a that's a plot twist, um, so Matt says, as an aside, I believe the term for Reggie's here is called the skullet.

Skullet popularized by Devon Townsend, who is a Canadian metal musician. If you're not familiar Matt says, well, Reggie would have nothing on Devon. It is still something used in regular conversation here today, at least on the central coast of California. Thanks for giving me a little bit of the old lock up I needed to keep sharp for an interview later today. All the best, Matt, So I looked up some images to compare them. I see what you're saying, Matt. Yeah,

both bald on top, long and back. Oh. I think we described it as UM closed for business in front, party and back. That's an excellent description. And I can actually see that in the central Californian coast where it's UM.

I would bet there are a lot of people. Let's let's let's focus on people with male pattern baldness that kick in where they have spent the majority of their lives with long, luxurious, hippie like hair and then suddenly the male pattern baldness horseshoe kicks in and what they're gonna change? Nah, they're not sellouts, man, you know, they've they're in on this lifestyle and they're keeping their long, flowing locks. And uh, you know, friends don't let friends

get haircuts. That's that's just the way this Ponytail's hot his love, you know, absolutely hot his love. Every time I hear that line, um, I try to figure out what his intention is behind that, and I can't. I can't figure it out. I guess he just means good, I guess. Unless unless I think you mentioned this in the episode, unless that's the band name, I don't. I don't know. So so you got, you got. Let's let's get your music reviewers opinion. Sitting here at midnight, what

do you think? I think it's great, I really do. I really do think it's great. It's it's your favorite song. It's so ridiculous, but it does. It makes you think of a lot of things. It makes me think of because you know, when you grow up, because because you

know I'm a musician, you're a musician. You grow up, you know, and knowing lots of musicians, and just that person sitting on their front porch with their guitar plugged into an AMP and just serenading the neighborhood and part of the front it's just like, shut up, shut up. But and I love the transition from it being this very lazy blueslick over a kind of I don't even know what style. You'd call that, you know, easy listening,

blues rock kind of thing. But then when he comes in with the acoustic guitar and they go, oh and play the riff, Yes, you can't beat that, and it means how many times have they played this before? So many times because they didn't synchronized so they knew. But you know, I love it. It feels very authentic to annoying musicians on their front porch, of which I have been, of which I have been, I think all musicians have been.

I think I've been that guy. All right. I think that does it for this episode of Stuff to Blow Your Mind listener mail my regular co host Robert Lamb should be back with us for all new core episodes starting tomorrow. Uh. In the meantime, Hey, if you're not subscribed to our feed, you gotta do that. You gotta subscribe to the Stuff to Blow your Mind podcast. You can get it wherever you get your podcasts. It's on all the apps and all that stuff. Or you can

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