Listener Mail: Said The White Rabbit

Happy to join. All right, well, let's jump right into the mail bag here, we're gonna kick off with one that's another bit of goat listener mail. Uh. The goat mail keeps coming, and it should keep coming. This one comes to us from Chris from Chicago. Hi, Robert, Seth and Joe in absentia. Congratulations on the new arrival. I have been ruminating on this email since the first Goat episode. I was surprised by all of the goat lore and

history across so many cultures. One culture of goat content that I enjoy is beer culture, more specifically German beer culture. Bach beer is a staple of Old World brewing styles. Here is a link to a quick summary, and that they included a link that goes to a brewery. And yes, there there's some posters and images and some labels that that that definitely featured goats with with large curling horns.

Chris continues from the web page quote Bach originated in the northern German city of Einbeck, probably as far back as the fourteen hundreds. By the sixteen hundreds it was being brewed in the Munich area of southern Germany. The name Einbeck was pronounced as Einbach in the Bavarian accent of the region, and Einbach means billy goat. I never knew that. With that being that, a quick Google search we'll find you a plethora of goat and beer label images.

One of my favorite box styles is that of the double box or double box slightly darker, multier, and higher in a b V. My favorite example of the style is eyeinger celebration. Include a link to this. I'm clicking on it. It's pulling up the image slowly from Germany,

and it's kind of stalling it. No, no, it's back, Okay, yes, alright, I see this wonderful label here with a giant it's either a giant frothing grail of beer or it is a very small one um or I don't know, or maybe it's regular size and the goats are small, but there are two horned goats on either side. Um, sort of dancing or rearing up against the beer. Well, if it's a double box, you need double the goats. Makes sense. Yeah, it does look delicious. It's almost like a root beer float.

But I think I just I prefer a root beer to an actual beer. So so maybe it's just where

my mind wants to go. And Chris continues here. One of my favorite American and local breweries, Revolution Brewing here in Chicago, has a seasonal beer called Baham, a a bock beer coming in at six point six six percent ABV and featuring a great label with a rendition of the goat of Mindy's featuring some additional beer specific changes please see the attached that's wonderful a six point six six a b V and the beer is called bah

that's a hilarious round of applause for them. And uh yeah, I'm I'm pulling up a link to this here to see the cover. Oh yes, this is very This is very nice. I'm not really a beer person, but if if you've offered one of these, I might have to try it out, just because it has a very very metal looking label on it. Very nice. Yeah, I'm looking at the image here and at first I was thinking, is this an artichoke floating over the goat's head? I'm

gonna guess it's probably a hop. I'm not a brew master, but I believe hops look similar to artich chokes, especially if it's zoomed in. So once again we're getting into the idea of scale, just like with the previous label. Is this a very large hop or a very small baffo a? I don't know either way, though great label, I applaud it. I'm also not entirely sure what a

hop is. Do you think you know? Like, I know, it's like a like a you know, a barley thing of a jig, but like, like, is is it the flower? I I genuinely don't know. I'm I'm very ignorant on beer, No I am. I've I've been straight edged for like, holy cow, um, over a decade. I can't I literally

can't remember the last time I had alcohol. So yeah, sorry, these are beautiful labels, though it would Beer is also something that I don't think Joe and I have covered on the show before as a devoted you know, like that how to beer or or the invention of beer and so for the beer comes up now and again, but we've never really done an episode that dives into it. That would be that would be interesting to do in

the future though. Yeah. Anyway, Chris winds it up here with thank you for all the consistently great content, Chris from Chicago right our next messages from Keith goes As. Thus, I listened to your conversation about anti witchcraft practices this week, and the part about shoes made me think of this meme that is all enjoy. Memes are of course visual, but I'll explain them to the audience. Here we have the image of let's see it looks like the end of a bench or a bed, and we have two

boots sitting on the floor. It looks like to Doc Martin's and they're very widely spaced apart, like got to be at least what two and a half three feet as the two boots sitting on the ground space apart. And this is the text on said meme, I leave my shoes far up heart so if a burglar comes in, they think I'm big a f ah fair fair absolutely and know that this doesn't make sense. There there is something going back to that episode that that you did.

It was the interview where it was about things found in the walls, whether it be you know, shoes, etcetera, etcetera. And man, there is something spooky about a shoe by itself. I have no idea why it is. I I perhaps maybe like gives us like the vibe of like an invisible person or something. Maybe it's got something to do with like just the amount of life that goes into an average pair of shoes that it is like even more so than like something like a hat or a

shirt or even something like a pair of jeans. A pair of shoes really has gone places with a person. So it does feel almost like a fingernail or something. Yeah, yeah, there is. Yeah, there's something. There's something strange about finding the one shoe if you're out on a walk mirror be it in on an urban or rural environ meant, of course, there are various traditions with the throwing of the lace together shoes over a power line or a

telephone wire, or a tree branch and so forth. This is all from that Brian Hoggard episode recently people should listen to if they haven't. My favorite part from that interview something that's so obvious but I never thought about until it was settled out in that episode, the idea that shoes were not made for left or right feet. You just made shoe and it was just you wore two shoe and ultimately it would form to your foot.

And perhaps that's why the idea of Cinderella's you know, shoe fitting her perfectly was such like an individual notion. And it's like, oh, of course, because like you know, I've I've I've heard that story million times in my life, and I thought, so many people are going to fit into that shoe if it's just a shoe. But no, no, if if it really was like you know, her, like old leather shoe that had magically turned into this glass slipper,

then no, it would be like exactly her foot. It would be like a love not to you know, confuse my articles of clothing here. Yeah, I know, this is a great point. Yeah, because the leather shoe, obviously is this thing that's already kind of flesh, and then it slowly becomes more in tune with your body. But yeah, I didn't evenin about the Cinderella comparison here, but that's

I think that's that's right on there. It makes that story feel a bit more concrete that than it used to in my head by by adding that extra little wrinkle of like, no, no, no, shoes weren't like shoes now. Shoes were these very specific things that fit only your feet. Yeah, And I think that's that's probably a layer to it that definitely would have spoken to people in olden times when they heard the story, read the story, or had

the story told to them. I also bet, because you know, I mean we here, we are in the modern age, a couple of pairs of shoes that I by regularly, A standard pair of Converse high tops and a standard pair of Doc Martin boots, just two pairs of shoes that I always have on hand. You know, you got to wear them in for a couple of days. And those are modern, made for left, made for right shoes.

I can't imagine how long it took to wear in a pair of shoes that were two nondescripts, just pieces of of of of of formerly cow flesh, you know, like I can't even imagine. Yeah, uh, that episode definitely had me thinking more and more about shoe placement in the house. My household is a is a shoes off once you enter the house household, so we have all the shoes lined up in trays right when you enter

the house. And so after that interview, I kept thinking about it when I look over and see all those shoes and think of them collecting demons. And weirdly enough, it was either right about the same time we recorded this or a little afterwards, our cat started sleeping on the shoes. So now sleeping on the shoes is one of her favorite spots that she'll you know, get around too during the course of her travels through the house

in the day, and she'll sleep for hours on the shoes. Well, well, the next time you took up your shoes in your house, do like this meme says, and leave your shoes far apart, so if a burglar comes in, they think your big a f Yeah, here you go. All right, now we're going to get into some of the weird house listener mail, and this is delightful because at least a couple of them have to do with our discussion of the Alice. This first one comes to us from Joe. Joe rides

then and says the following, Dear Robert and Seth. First of all, hearty congratulations to Joe, are Joe on the new baby. Best wishes to the family. This is a little off tangent, but after seeing the weird puppets in Alice, I feel the need to tell you about some other weird and maybe awesome puppets, particularly the puppets in Pee Lee, a puppet series that started in and hasn't ended yet. Yes, you heard that right. The show is still ongoing. There

are some two thousand, six undred episodes and counting. I don't know if this number includes the multiple spinoffs that are supposedly set in the same universe that follow different characters, but I'm a little afraid to find out. That's even longer than The Simpsons because the Simpsons, so that this this pre dates the Simpsons and it is still going very impressive. Yeah, I mean, it's got to be up there for like, the longest puppet show on the air

in general has to be Yea. They continue. The show is produced by pe Lee International Multimedia, Taiwan and in my opinion, has some really beautiful puppets. Unfortunately, the main series is in Taiwanese hot Keen and the subs are in Traditional Chinese, so they're pretty inaccessible to anyone who can't read Traditional Chinese. However, the collaboration with Good Smile

Thunderbolt Fantasy has English subs on YouTube. The show is a Chinese C and C series which revolves around cultivation Taoism, flying around, super secret manuals and techniques, flashy attacks, big swords, and lots of instances of honor being impugned been avenged. They also have a YouTube channel and has a ton of edits and compilations. They've come a long way since the ninety nineties and I hope you get a kick out of seeing the difference in cinematics. Thanks for reading.

These are beautiful. I'm looking at these right now, and not only are the like primary figures like like there seemed to be some humanoid esque figures, but man that I'm seeing some creatures here. Um, Like wow, there's like this some giant bear like creature with antlers that is so beautiful looking. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glancing at some of this footage as well. On an epic sword fight here battle on the shores of the Sticks. This is amazing looking. Yeah.

The one I'm talking about is Demigod the legend begins and it looks gorgeous. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for some of the into us. Yes, absolutely, all right. Next up we have a message from Tantry. They write the following, Hey, guys, love the show as always. I wanted to let you know about the tarts in Sphank mars Alice. Those are poppy seed colatches. Is that you think that's the correct

pronunciation colches? Yeah? Or co colaches? Yeah, spelled k O l A c h e s. Just in case you at home were wondering and want to look these up, I'll say colaches for now, just going phonetically. Uh. Colaches are the most quintessential of all check pastries, and poppy seed is the most check filling. Poppy seed. We did not say poppy seed, but now now that now that we're saying it out loud, I can definitely see poppy seed. So that's that's interesting. Thank thank you for for clearing

up this mystery for us. So continue with the message. Sometimes they are topped with strussel, or sometimes like an alice with almonds, So there we go, there we go. Yeah, we had a big discussion about what these were, if they were teeth, whether or not they were just mud filled with baby teeth, but no poppy seed with almonds.

Back to the message. Uh, it's funny that without context they do come off looking rather unappetizing in the film, particularly in a film where everything edible is made to look upsetting, especially since in context they're the only thing in the film that seems like it's supposed to be delicious. Then they sent us an example image, and you're absolutely correct, this looks wonderful. I would absolutely take a bite of this. Um yeah, absolutely yeah. Yeah. Well, out of the context

of Johns funk Myers alice, this looks rather delicious. So um. So yeah, I'm I'm glad to to define out exactly what this this was supposed to be. And uh, and yes, Country makes some some great points to about you. Could you could basically put anything, any food item in its place in alice, and you would be a little suspicious of it. You have only because it might contain thumb

tax in the context of alice. Yeah yeah, because if this uh and as far as I can tell, this is one for one exactly what is in this movie. I mean, it seems exactly correct. If that's the case. It's the only food that is not suspicious in one way or another, whether it be the bread with the nails, and it's the marmalade with the thumb tax this one never appeared to have anything foreign inside it at all. It was always food throughout the film. So yeah, yeah, anyway,

no baby teeth and mud, poppy seeds and almonds. All right, here's another weird house cinema message, and this one comes to us from Kate. Kate rides in and says, Dear Robert and Joe, thank you for all your incredible programming. You are my favorite companions for running and you always make the time fly by, even on days when I don't really want to be slogging up hills. You guys

do such a wonderful job of science communication. I wanted to write in to comment on your discussion with David Streepy on The Gate, particularly your comments on the use of problematic language in the film and how that might impact your choice to watch it with kids. I had the experience of showing my kids seven movie Monster Squad. Oh, I know exactly where this is going. This I adore this movie, and man, there's some hate speech in the beginning that makes it real rough. Uh sorry, I haven't

read this in advance. I'm just reacting in real time. Please continue, Rob, No, no, no, that's I'm I've been in a weird spot with Monster Squad as well, because I fondly remember it from from my childhood. Because the monsters are incredible. Yes, it's it's a kid's, you know, kick butt kind of a movie, so it has that going for it, but I've always been hesitant to revisit it,

and certainly to view it with my child Now. I didn't remember the problematic language, but I remembered the whole the plot point about needing a virgin to do something to close or open a gate. And even at the time as a child, I remember finding this weird and had at least had plot holes in it because I'm like, wait, they keep saying that, like, Okay, the old man's not a virgin, he can't open it. It has to be

the girl. But then it's like, does that mean that all the male children are are no longer virgins in this movie, like there's there. I had questions and had issues with it, and like I don't I don't want to have to explain all this too much of my son. And even more so, I would say even more problematic than that, because even hocus Pocus goes down that route of you know, virgins being necessary for things to work

with magic spells um. I. My other least favorite part about this from just you know, a modern sensibility and I'm an adult so I can look at this with adult eyes, is there's a lot of peeping on a woman while she is not consenting to be peeped upon, with photos being taken ever, and stuff not cool, you know, like, oh wow, I don't remember that at all from this film. It was a different time. I get it, but now

it was wrong then and it's wrong now. But anyway, back back to this message, I I can't wait to hear more about the Monster Squad. Okay, Kate continues. What I had completely forgotten was the liberal use of hateful language early in the film, particularly the use of homophobic slurs by the bully characters. It was a huge shock while watching, and my kids picked up on my discomfort immediately. I would have preferred they not hear that kind of

hateful language. However, we ended up having a very long conversation about words and how some words take on a broader and more harmful meaning than mere insults. We also talked about how the world I grew up in was more open in using those words, but they are still wielded as weapons now, and that it does real damage to people overall. And it ended up being an opportunity to talk with them about these issues and the movie

provided a context for them to understand. My oldest even referenced our Monster Squad discussion when he found my copy of Huckleberry Finn and I told him why I had very mixed feelings about him reading it. I wanted to share my experience for any other parents who might show their kids a movie from their eighties childhood and they that they did not expect to contain casual hate and

words they don't want their children to hear. I would not have done it on purpose, but it can be a chance for a real talk about the power and gravity of hateful words. Thanks so much for all you guys do. Cheers, Kate. I think that's a wonderful, wonderful sentiment. And um, I'm really grateful that you did that with your kids. I think communication with children is h an overlooked art form, so I really appreciate that you did that.

And also I do think it also opens up the world to a broader place that once a child does understand the difference between something that happened in the past and something that happened today, not only can can they now hopefully enjoy a broader range of entertainments like, for example, watching like old Looney Tunes, shorts and stuff like that.

But but in addition to that, I think it's really really helpful for thinking about the things we do today, thinking about it from a future perspective and going, hey, in the future, what am I doing right now that I will probably regret? What words should I stop using? What? What what attitudes should I please drop? You know? So, so I think that is very valuable, Kate, So, so

way to go with that. And also I know how important it is to find really good um podcast listening for jogging, so I'm glad we can provide that for you. It's a it's it's it's a balancing act. It's gotta be interesting, but it can't be too interesting, you know, it's got to be like just right, you know. So, yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, yeah, these are all great points. Um.

I know. Also racial stereotypes or something that also comes up in a lot of films from yesteryear and they those two will jump out when you least expect them. And um and yeah, I have found that to be an opportunity for my wife and I discuss those things with with our son. Oh and by the way, Kate also uh suggested that Joan return to the topic of

the electric microbe land episode. Apparently there have been some some more recent studies that have come out, uh that that suggests that there there might be more that we need to discuss in the future. So I appreciate that. Obviously, anytime you're out there and you you hear of new studies, new findings, new angles on things that we've discussed in the past on the show that could be explored in the future. Yeah, shoot him our way. We we would

We would love to hear from you. Absolutely. We've got one more message. This is from Adam says, hey, y'all, quick suggestion on some films that I've seen on the mission channel on my videos TVs watch free app. I don't think I know what that is? Do you do?

You know what a mission channel is? This my my so my understanding, mostly from being in like Airbnb houses, is that some of these modern TVs have like their own little you know, they had a little apps for the different viewing uh services, and some of them have. It seems like there are a number of different services that maybe have more or less the same assortment of films that they offer up for I think usually quote

unquote free, so it's usually advertising supported. I get that. Yeah, yeah, my my TV has something like that, just like that, like a random movie channel that forces itself on me as often as it can. It's almost always showing Father Goose. Okay, okay, I got that. So so um from Adam, these are the suggestions that Adam is is making black Star uh Saturn three, and if I remember correctly, Adam also wrote in it suggested Ice Pirates a while ago and uh.

Adam ends with I'll probably return with more. So yeah, yeah, I don't know what black Star film they're referring to here. Um, I know there's like black Star in the Golden Bat from nine. Uh, there's some other films that have the the title black Star, but I'm not sure what this is a reference to. One thing I love and thank you Adam for writing in with these suggestions. I mean, one thing I love about weird house cinema is how easy it is to find movies to do in weird

house Cinema. Like it's just it's just a never ending list, Like, um, should we kind of spill the beans a bit about the next episode that we're doing, would you hear that? Yeah? Absolutely gives people a chance to watch ahead time at the one. Yeah. So so, so this is for this upcoming Friday, I will be the co host again. And Rob was saying to me, Hey, I'm kind in the mood for like a seventies eighties fantasy science fiction, e

kind of animated film. Since since Rob knows my background and love for animation, then you know, I'm like, oh, I'll happily oblige with that. So I sent four examples in and uh, one of them is is this wonderful, wonderful film from Eastern Europe called The Treasure Planets, not the Disney one. This one's from two It's called the Treasure Planets so good. You can find the whole thing

on YouTube very easily. Um, if y'all didn't know Brian Cranston before he was famous, used to use a fake name and just make money by doing um anime voiceovers and and just various dubbing. He is the star of this film, a very young Brian Cranston's that's a lot of fun but also just some of the greatest animation. I also brought up UM the v one filmed The Point,

which is great. It stars Bobby Brady from The Brady Bunch and Ringo Star and it's made by um Fred Wolfe, the guy that made that UM one to who three roll Pop commercial in addition to being instrumental in the creation of the studio that brought us The Ninja Turtle's animated series. And then another option that I really hope you do someday. It's high fantasy Santa Claus mythology from L. Frank Baum called The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus.

It's a stop motion extravaganza. Uh, it is so strange. It's all about basically a demigod finding this abandoned baby, and so all the gods need to come together and have a meeting about whether or not they can turn Santa Claus immortal, whether or not that's allowed based on the tasks that this human Santa Claus has done in its life. And it's it's a trip, it's ranking bass,

it's stop motion, it's beautiful. But then the one we settled on because coincidentally, other than my suggesting it, you told me you had just looked up the trailer recently. It's it's another ranking bass to the animated The Flight of Dragons that will be this Friday's movie. Yes, I am excited to talk about this one. I watched it the other evening with my son, and yeah, we both really enjoyed it. I thought it thought it held up really well. It's message is ultimately just as important today

as it as it was back then. So it'll be a fun one to discuss. And it is. It's it's it's easy to find. You can. I think we ended up doing a digital rental on it. So if you want to be the right there at the cutting edge as we published this episode, then you can you can watch ahead of time. Man, you should be able to find it anywhere you get your digital movies and if you're a physical media person, I know I bought my

DVD off of the Warner Archives collection. Have you ever bought anything for the Warner Archives before, Rob, I don't think. I think I may have rented something that was part of that that collections. It's so cool what the Warner Brothers does this thing where basically, um, they haven't obviously, Warner Brothers has an enormous back catalog, not only with the movies that they own, but a bunch of movies that you know, they've bought a company and now they

own that whole catalog as well. Like think about like you know, the whole hand of bar Bearer back catalog stuff like that. So what they'll do is for all of the properties that are kind of popular but not popular enough for them to print five thousand copies of what they'll do is they'll just have it on demand. You can order one copy, they'll burn it for you, put it in like a printer, you know, a piece of paper in like a plastic box in to ship

it to you. It's it's like the cheapest, flimsiest physical media you can buy, but you can buy it, and that's the important part. And that's how I got the Flight of Dragons. Oh wow. Yeah, as far as I know, that's not one that has had a like robust physical release, but but but it deserves one. Yeah, it's it's it's a great one and I recommend people watch it and we'll be talking more about it this Friday. Absolutely. All right, Well, we're gonna go ahead and close it out there, but

keep the listener mail coming. If you have any any thoughts about the episodes that have published recently, thoughts about episodes that should publish in the future. Everything's fair game. Uh, let's see what's going on. What have you got going on with Rusty Needles Record Club. Let's see here. Um, we just wrapped up a month of requests and I believe by the time this episode comes out, we may be just starting our full December of holiday albums. So yeah,

I guess I'll say it. In case of no one, no one's heard, I host a podcast called Rusty Needles Record Club. Find it wherever you find podcasts. You know it's um, it's a book club, but for music instead,

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