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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call me Bed.
We're joined as always with our super producer Alexis code name Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here that makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. It is time, hello, conspiracy realist for you to join our show. Would love to give a big, big thank you to everyone who hears us say stuff like this and says, you know what. I Am going
to reach into the void. I Am going to contact my friends over on stuff they don't want you to know, via email, via telephonic device, via any number of things, including walking Widershen's at crossroads. This is where we hear from you. We are going to learn about witches. We are going to learn about tragedies. We are going to learn about hidden locusts or hidden loci of control throughout the world, and all of these, in one way or another,
affect all of us directly. Perhaps we start with a lovely piece of correspondence we received from across the pond from someone who is what was the name nol Red Scott Witch.
If I'm not mistaken, let's see or was it Scott's Red Witch. Hold on a second, let's go right, you got it? Yeah, yeah, Red Scott Witch here, let's just get right into it. This definitely was in relation to By the way, guys, I'm recording from a slightly different look, and you might hear some siren songs, not the ones that lure you to your demise, but you know, ones from ambulances and the like them, kind of on an exterior window of a building. So forgive that in advance.
But here we go right direct to the email, Red Scott Witch here.
Huh.
Never thought I'd be sending a bunch of dudes guys an email about my witchiness. I guess times are changing. I finally had the courage to listen to how witch Hunts actually worked, the How witch Hunts actually work podcasts, and wanted to send a note to say thank you for shining a light on the power women hold and the fear it invokes in others. I would consider myself a reluctant witch, not necessarily wickan pagan, but definitely have
stuff within that scares the out of me. So to be completely out there, I'm able to connect with dead people's energy. Yep, I talk to dead people. I didn't ask for it, I don't necessarily want it, and it is there and getting stronger as I get older. So this redheaded Scott despises the word witch because of the
history and negativity surrounding it. Seen a Disney movie lately, I do not have warts on my face, and when I enter my Crone era, I am sure I won't be as hunched over and evil as witches are portrayed to be conspiracy against women. Once again, I think I don't recall seeing a wart on Merlin's character.
It's very true.
Don't get me started. I'm sure you can sense a bit of rage building. Anyways. I have been a huge fan of your podcast, and I wonder if part of it is about surrounding myself with men, guys, dudes, masculinity where I don't feel like I'll be burned, drowned, or come after. I am at a time in my life where I would have been a prime target for the witch hunts, and maybe there is comfort in knowing there are humans that don't think being witchy is bad. Weird maybe,
but not bad or dangerous. I also listen to Josh and Chuck, so it is refreshing to know there are guys out there that have room for witchiness. If you see them in the hallway, say hi for me. You bet. I am not sure if you realized it, but your podcasts help me feel safe. That's a big deal. My next challenge is to listen to the Divine Intervention episode not there yet, as I have lots of fear around facing my own experiences without feeling shame. I'm a work
in progress. Thanks again for doing what you do best, Red Scott Witch and Ben you actually you saw this email as well as we see every email that comes to us, like we say at the end of every episode, and you wrote a lovely response back to Red Scott Witch just about how you and I'm sure we can
all get behind this. It makes us feel really great to know that in any way we can help contribute to someone's feelings of safety and in security, or at the very least be you know, an ally in any way, shape or form.
Agree Yeah, and you know, I think we are unanimous in that sentiment. And there's something interesting that happens here read Scott, which, as we may have mentioned, you're not alone.
You're one of several folks who have written into us and said, Hey, I was skeptical or I was hesitant or trepidacious perhaps about tuning into a certain episode, right, How which hunts actually worked, how divine intervention actually works, things like that, And we do our level best as a group to make sure that we're not falling prey to the romanticization that so often occurs with some of these things. And we endeavor, we endeavor in all things to be objective, to be reasoned, and I think we
do an all right job overall. Right, Like we're not dunking on things we don't understand, We're trying to understand them. Is that fair?
Oh? One hundred percent. I think I've mentioned before on the podcast there are people that are very close to me in my life who consider themselves to be witchy or witch adjacent for various reasons. And you know, have very strong connections with the dead and with energy fields and you know the like, and I you know, try very hard to never be judge or to think about like,
oh is this true? Is this real? Because it's not for me to say honestly, you know, I really have gotten to a place in my old age, I guess advancing age, that I just don't have room for that anymore.
And I really really try, outside of maybe the occasional judgment towards people who are just plain hateful or use beliefs in ways that divide people, I try never to ever have any judgment when it comes to people's beliefs as long as it's something that is just personal to them and they aren't using it in any kind of negative or mean spirited way. So and we talk about it a lot too. In the Divine Intervention episode, I think Red Scott, which pointing out their connection with the dead.
This to me feels very adjacent to the Divine Intervention, Slash, Hearing Voices, slash, the witch hunt stuff, all of those. I think we're kind of a triple threat, and they have elements that really support and kind of enhance each other in terms of how a lot of these things sort of played with historical figures and folks that were seen as being a threat. And I do think a big part of what we were talking about was about how this was just used as a tool to oppress women.
And recently I did a video update, you know, on our YouTube channel or maybe on Instagram just about how modern witch hunts, which was referencing something we talked about in that very episode that this stuff is not just relegated to the past. You know, there are parts of the world that still do use these tactics as tools of oppression, you know, to keep women subjugated and to take their land and to take their prosperity.
And to further add because this has been an obsession mind for some time, to further at the people who are persecuted in these things that we call witch hunts. If you do, if you do some diligent research, what you find is it is historically, yes, women and female identifying people are overwhelmingly targeted. However, there will also be, especially in trying socioeconomic times, there will also be a
number of other demographic indicators that are targeted. Right now, you can see various horrifying cases of people with albinism targeted in countries across Sub Saharan Africa actually in different parts of the continent overall, and these accusations, these moral panics. They never occur because someone genuinely thought there was an insidious, infernal conspiracy. They occur because people are having a terrible time and they want someone to blame that they can also harm.
Yeah or rob or deprive of their legacy, their heritage, their belongings.
Shout out devil in the shape of a woman.
I've got a question for Red Scott Witch and anybody else who's listening right now. And I'm asking this from a genuine position of curiosity because I've had some weird stuff mid meditation and dream sequence. What is the sensation when you are communicating with dead people's energy? What are the sites, the sounds, the all other sensory input. What is that experience like for you? I think we'd all be interested in the mechanisms, maybe like how it functions
for you. Again, that doesn't mean that's how it functions for everybody. Sure, that's how you experience it.
And it made me think of the hearing voices stuff, because you gotta wonder. We even on that episode talked about what would that feel like? The idea of hearing voices seems like you're describing a very objective thing like there's a voice audible in your mind. But we talked about how it's different folks that could be experienced very differently. Your internal voice isn't necessarily a sound, you know, it's like a psychic sound. Kind that's weird.
And there's so many people who do not have an internal monologue, at least as they identify it, which I think baffled a lot of us listening along that evening. I love this question because your mileage may vary when you're having these experiences. It may be multipolar. There are in the historical record there are depictions of all of the senses. Right. There are people who say I can see dead people, and that's not a sixth sense reference.
There are people who will say, oh, I can hear someone, or I feel something, or a memory springs to mind, or one of the One of the very interesting ones is the idea of a smell. Right, all of a sudden, I have smell held this smell that I always associated with my grandfather, right, or with a relative who was passed on. So, if I agree with you, Matt, it would be absolutely fascinating to hear more people's individual experiences with this phenomenon.
Well, with that, I think it's time to take a quick break, hear a word from our sponsor, and then come back with more listener mail, and thank you again to Red Scott Witch.
We're right back, and we're back. We're jumping to the phone lines. Everybody to hear a message from Kitty. Just minor warning here. The things Kitty is discussing then, what we'll be discussing after I have to do with a mass shooting event that occurred this year in Maine. You've likely heard about it. It was a big deal and a tragedy and a horrible thing, and we're going to examine it a little bit. So if you don't want to hear about that, or if that's going to be triggering,
you go ahead and skip forward about fifteen minutes. We'll see you then, or continue listening. Here's the message from Kitty.
Hi, my name is Kat, you can call me Pitty. Uh So, I lived in Lewiston, Maine, which recently, as you may know, made national headlines for there being one of the deadliest mass shootings in history, the deadliest this
year and certainly the only one that mate has ever had. However, something that came out of this is you know, and looking at the suspect, he had cochlear implants recently put in and you know, according to you know, the media, which you knows, but he was like perfectly normal before these cochlear implants were given to him and then started experiencing, you know, auditory hallucinations of that were very humiliating and dehumanizing, and that for of led him down this spiral of
you know, sort of psychosis. So I just thought it was something that's interesting. Maybe you guys could look into it or talk about it or maybe not, But to me, it was fascinating because there is some literature. I'm a doctorate student in social work and so I have access to some peer reviewed stuff, and it does look like there's some evidence that cochlear implants can lead to auditory hallucinations and psychosis. So I just, you know, it's just
kind of fascinating. There's obviously plenty of conversation to be had about the shooting in terms of politics and what could have been done. Certainly its own beasts of the topic and one that is certainly being debated in me right now, particularly in my field. But I thought the cochlear implant that was kind of fascinating. You know, why why would that be, I guess? And in what are we doing to help protect these sulks when they get
these implants? You know, how are we screening people who are getting these how are making sure that they'll be okay? And who's following up to make sure that these folks, you know, have to support any if they do experience that. So anyway, I love the show, longtime listener, and you know, thank you guys for getting me through not only a tough time in my community, but many years of tough time in my field. So I look forward to it every week. Thank you guys for all you do. Goodbye.
Well. As we said at the top, here we're talking about a mass shooting that happened in Lewiston, Maine, where Kitty hails from. This is a really interesting point that somehow I completely missed when reading about this story. I think personally maybe because it was yet another mass shooting story that I felt I didn't want to explore too much unless I had to just for literally literally for my own mental health and stability.
Just how frequently these happens to the point where you do have to almost self select. Yeah, because it's just overwhelming.
Yeah, but this concept of cochlear implants in particular, or hearing aids, any kind of sound amplification, inner ear amplification, any technology like that, and then that association with potentially musical ear or hearing voices or you know, anything to where there's potentially an auditory hallucination occurring musically or syndrome, Yeah, exactly, musically, or syndrome where sounds are coming in and those tones are forming human vocalizations in your mind, right right in
your the transition between what that sound vibration actually is to how your brain is taking in that information. It does appear from a lot of reporting out of Newsweek
and New York Post and The Daily Beast. Even CBS News picked up on it that there was something going on with the suspect in that case, Robert Card, an Army reservist who pretty shortly before this event, had visited a psychiatric facility and he had stated to them, at least according to the reporting, that he had been hearing voices. He also had suffered some pretty severe hearing loss fairly recently before this event to where he did need to
use some kind of hearing aids. I have not seen the phrase cochlear implant used in any of that reporting. I have seen high powered hearing aids, which those are two very different things, right, So I don't know is.
The hypothesis that this is causing auditory hallucinations that are being interpreted as voices of some kinds.
The hallucination would be changing grouping of sounds and tones, or translating a group of tones into human speech as you're hearing them, right, that would be the hallucination.
Well, yeah, it'd be very similar to and I'm cloud we're bringing this up. First, I want to say, Kittie, thank you for fighting the good fight and pursuing your
higher education in a way that betters society overall. The point you're bringing up, Matt, if we look at it through comparison, another example would be, imagine the last time you looked at clouds, right, and you saw shapes in the clouds, And you know, that's a very safe thing for people to do, because we're exercising the brain's pattern
recognition tendency. In this case, there's the idea that having this technological intervention which changes the things that you can consciously hear, may in some way function in a code morbid method with perhaps other mental conditions right, such that your pattern identification goes a little bit beyond your conscious control. And now you are hearing things that you could not have heard before without this technological intervention. But your brain
doesn't quite know what to do with them. And if there are a couple of preexisting sort of circumstances, then it may interpret these things to your point in a very damaging, a very damaging manner. Does that make sense?
Oh?
Yeah, it does well. And also you have to put yourself in a position of imagining the all all of the sounds around you are being amplified way more than they ever have been. Right now, imagine you're in a crowded place like a bowling alley or a bar. If you are that person sitting in that bar, you were probably hearing a lot more conversation, a lot more clearly than you would if you were just sitting there across
from somebody talking to them. Right, And then there's that susserus, the murmur that's going on within the bar space or the you know, large open bowling alley. I do imagine it's probably a combination of that thing you're describing ben and just actually hearing conversations out of context, but a bunch of them at once, so that words become out of context and phrases, and you know, the subjects and the objects are all intermingling.
And your brain is prioritizing, maybe without your conscious consent. I mean, it's similar in some ways, and not to be glib at all, it's similar in some ways to the depictions we see in fiction where someone discovers telepathy, right, and all of a sudden, the world is too much with us. Oh yeah, that that can happen. And if you've ever had you're listening today and you've ever had some sort of surgery like ear oh what was it like?
Ear?
Canal surgery? Things like that used to be quite common once upon a time. Then you realize that the world does seem to fundamentally change based on your ability to experience it. So all of a sudden, you're hearing these new sounds and your brain is the unreliable narrator of all this new information.
Well, yeah, or if you're applying all of it to yourself, right, So we do that as humans a lot. We will kind of apply things have nothing to do with this to ourselves. That's just another trait that many humans have. I'm one of them, putting my hand up self identifying with stuff that has none to do this. This is very interesting because all of this is occurring very shortly. This person, Robert Carter, is in these places we're describing,
hearing some of these things. He is reporting to his family members, at least according to his sister in law, Katie, who is either named last name Card or O'Neill, just depending on which reporting you're believing, either Newsweek or New York Post. Assuming he's probably Card, he was reporting to his family that he was hearing voices and people in these locations were speaking ill of him, saying things directly about him, and he would tell his family that and
they didn't It wasn't that they didn't believe him. Here's some quotations from Katie from the reporting this coming out of New York Post. In the lead up to the shooting, Card started using these high powered hearing aids. He truly believed he was hearing people say things, and this all happened just within the last few months. He would get mad and claim we didn't believe him. We tried to listen to him and tell him that nobody was talking
about him. When she goes on to say in the newsweek, he basically he would just get very frustrated when trying to express that he's hearing these things, these very specific things. But his close family members were expressing that he's not actually hearing that, and he's okay. You know, who knows what led to what and why this terrible shooting occurred,
the worst mass shooting in Main's history. But the connection between these like hearing aid devices no matter what they are, and auditory hallucination, I think is something we we need to look into even further.
Agreed it should be a follow up to our previous episode on on hearing voices, because this is I mean, Kitty, One of the best questions you ask is why there is not some sort of check in or evaluation for the for the application of hearing a technology in this way right, Because I don't know. I agree with you, Matt,
I think this is something that bears much further investigation. Again, it seems as if the technological intervention to improve this shooter's hearing coincided with pre existing mental conditions, and if you read through the publicly available information, about about his life leading up to this disaster, which I believe is the tenth deadliest mass shooting in US history. Is that correct?
That's what I've seen in the reporting. Yeah.
Yeah, if you read about this, then what you see is that this was not a person who was feeling completely one hundred percent on the up and up before they got this technological intervention.
Yeah.
So let's just really quickly jump to something from WBZ News that is a CBS affiliate out of Boston. They were reporting all on October twenty sixth that he was behaving erratically on July sixteenth while training at the United States Military Academy and quote, out of concern for his safety, the unit requested law enforcement be contacted. New York State Police responded and transported him to the Keller Army Community
Hospital in the US Military Academy for medical evaluation. So that I mean he went through something in July and then the shooting occurred in October, so not a long span between some kind of mental health crisis and this mass shooting. It's tough because it becomes so politicized, just as Kitty said, and we don't want that to occur as much as possible, but looking at the science, I think can't hurt anyone or anything.
It can only helped.
So thanks so much Kitty for sending us that message. We will be right back with more messages from you.
And we have returned this one. Is This one may seem somewhat dry and academic, but we promise you it does matter. First off, what do you guys think about lithium?
Lithium the drug or the the rare earth metal. Yes, yeah, the rare you know. Honestly, I don't think I know too much about it, Ben, but I'm excited to learn.
Me too. Man.
Unrelated to the medication, right, they just happen to share the same name, or is there I've always wondered is there a crossover?
Is it not a metal just a metal substance.
Isn't it kind of a brittle like white metal that can that can kind of crumble almost into a powder.
So lithium compounds, lithium salts, they're called, are what are used as the psychiatric medicine or medication. Lithium itself the soft metal, right, Lithium itself, the element is a soft and a silvery white metal. If you saw it, you'd probably think that looks like tinfoil, but lithium does, in a very real way, in a very weird way, make the world go round. Let's go to Jbird. Jaybird, you
recently wrote us the following. We'll read this long, we'll explore it together, just like Rock City, and then we'll stop along the way. So Jay Bird, you say, hey, guys, I enjoy the show and thought this ongoid multi national saga would be right up your ally. Beware it's a can of worms. We'll also accept bag of badgers. JB. J Bird says, this story is a tangled web of epic proportions. I'll try to provide a general outline. You
can dive as deep as you wish. The stories about a lithium deposit and the Democratic Republic of Congo called Manono, an Australian junior mineral exploration company called AVS, and to all the government's crooks and individuals trying to steal or otherwise personally capitalize upon it. The AVZ, says Jabert, their managing director is a Tasmanian geologist who's worked on the African continent fairly extensively. They got the permits they drilled
to prove their resource. Then they created a feasibility study and turned out that this site they found in Minono was one of the largest and purest lithium deposits on Earth. We're talking in estimated value of twenty four trillion dollars or something absurd like that. And we're going to paraphrase
a little bit here, folks. With this this proven study, they did a IPO in initial public offering, They signed an agreement with the world's largest battery manufacturer, then they applied for a mining license and so on and so on, and Jabert says, full disclosure. I bought some stock in this Australian company because the research they had done showed it was going to be one of the most ecologically friendly mining operations. Okay, lot, I love your face there.
So ecologically friendly mining operations. That's a lot like the most illiterate essayist at the Nobel You know, it seems paradoxical, but Jay Bird says they were ecologically friendly because they had hydrogen powered machinery. The electricity came from a nearby hydro electric plant, and because they were publicly treated, this company in Australia would have to be transparent so they would minimize bribery, corruption, child labor, nasty stuff like that.
And then they got an approval from the high muckety MUCKs in the government in this country, and they were supposed to get a tax for what are called surface rights. Then they get a permit, and then they could begin actually building this mine that they had, Like millions of dollars have already moved to and fro across the table here.
And Ben maybe silly question in terms of like the value of the stuff and the way it affects our economy. This is the same stuff that maybe goes into like phone batteries, lithium ion, right.
Yeah, yeah, lithium ion batteries, lithium metal batteries. It's used to make steel and aluminium. It's used to make ceramics, heat resistant glass, something called lithium grease lubricants, which I don't I don't pretend to know much about, but it does sound just cartoon experts. It just yeah, I'm not a lithium lubricant expert, but this sounds specific enough to be real. Matt, I see your headshake. We're working live.
I do also, I think I'm remembering from like my early studies of the periodic table. Lithium in its raw form is high reactive and can be dangerous, you know, if they like I think, it reacts very violently with water and can cause expensive reactions.
Super flammable too. Also learned a fun trick with a little bit of aluminum and mercury recently. It's cool stuff. Uh, anyway, hopefully that never comes in handy. But if we're ever locked up in the wrong place.
Let's just cookbook type stuff.
Ben, Yeah, just remember, just remind me we got to break the thermometer if they have aca there, and then we're we're off to the races. It's so cool, I'll send it to you guys later. So, with all this stuff and our little anarchist cookbook level tip, if you ever find yourself in an escapable situation, let's go back to Jaybird. So j Bird says that there is a heck of a lot of corruption going on with a state owned mining company called Comigner or Comygner, and they
are in an agreement with this Australian company. One of them, the state owned company, has a twenty five percent stake and then like it gets into the weeds pretty hard here Jaber. This is perfect for a future episode. But the problem is these folks started illegally selling shares to a Chinese owned company named Zizhen, and they sold it very off the books. Only a fraction of the value got accounted for, and it was spent on. Get this,
This is a quote from Jaybird. Clemiennier illegally sold shares to a Chinese owned company named Zizhen out from under a VZ for a fraction of its value, with none of the money accounted for. It was allegedly spent on consulting fees and snacks. Snacks, snacks, dude, hopefully jolly ranchers, you know, mountain dew dang.
I wonder how much that fifteen percent actually equals, Right, that's probably a lot of money.
And it's still speculative money too, right, because you don't get the money until you sell the lithium and process it and all those other things. Uh. To make a long story short, says Jabird. The situation has devolved into several court cases at the ICC in Paris. And what do we say in the United States about the International Criminal Court?
Eh?
No way, not today, death, not today, will storm the Hague?
Go out and find out.
So there's a There are a couple of other international entities that have been sucked into this, and j Bird says, by the way, this Chinese company, Zishen, has one of the worst human rights records in the world and has been repeatedly trying to steal this lithium mining project from this Australian company. They funded a compag to try and overturn the company's board of directors and a hostile takeover.
They paid off journalists, they've bribed officials and judges in the DRC, and they have infiltrated stock forums to try to do some like fifty cent army kind of internet trolling and astroturfing and so on.
Wow, I just want to know where you're getting all this information, jabird.
Ja Bert says, Basically, whomever controls this mind controls the global lithium market. It doesn't get a lot of media attention because it's confused and because people don't really want you to talk about it. That's us editorializing here. And to your question, Matt, let's again we're paraphrasing a lot because we're saving some of this for an episode. Let's go to Jaybird's very last line, please don't state anything I've written as fact, as I wrote this from memory
off the top of my head. Have fun, Jaybird, what I don't know for off the dome. You got a lot of facts, man.
Yeah, but if you're making up facts, j Bert, what are we supposed to do about it?
Oh gosh, we haven't even mentioned lithium's use in nuclear physics. What we'll leave the cat in? So he was like, yeah, nuclear physics. So we've talked a little bit in the past, you guys about the invisible, often invisible, cutthroat market of rare earth metals and how much of the world depends on them. My question at the top is do these kind of machinations Do they feel like just the regular dirty game of international business or is there something more at play? Is this a resource war?
If it was a resource war, it would feel more like security services getting involved rather than stuff happening in the boardroom. But I guess if you're doing it smart, you know, like resource extractions, smart and wars in that way, you would do it in the boardroom rather than on the field. I'm just looking up some of the reporting that you can find in Reuters and other places specifically about AVZ Minerals that is being mentioned here. Yep, there is.
There's some definite stuff going on, and it's talking about these specific companies Xijian Mining.
Yibentanye and so on.
Yeah, I mean it's it's in here.
Yeah, it's definitely No, it's definitely real. I would also point out while we're playing the f N game here that right before Russia invaded Ukraine this time around, the lithium resources of Ukraine were drawing huge global attention from you guessed it, Chinese and Australia mining investors. I know, I don't want to be Charlie Day about it, but coincidence.
It's important stuff. You like batteries, you like things that run on batteries.
About magnets, how do they work?
How?
Also?
You know what?
Fine, I'll say it again, Noel, I'm sorry you have to hear this again, But the problem with the ICP song about where they mentioned magnets is that Shaggy too Dope says magnets, how do they work? I don't want to talk to a scientist. Your mothers be lying and getting me pissed.
So in this Sun's a good rhyme, though, scientist with lying and getting me pissed who saw it?
But at the same time that he is saying he has no idea how magnets might work, which honestly, I don't think we're all one hundred percent on. Then he in the same line he acknowledges that there are people who know, and he refuses to speak to them.
Yeah, they're called sorcerers, ben duh magno sorcerer.
The very least alchemist at the very least.
Yes.
Yes, maybe it's so weird that we haven't played D and D together, But this is important because lithium is part of the rush to clean energy, right, and it's all well and good, I think for us to talk about a future that is not reliant on fossil fuels. But something that often gets missed and all the feel good ted talkie arguments about this is those technologies that
create this so called clean energy. They often come from dirty places, right, Like if you get an electric car and you power that car on a coal powered energy grid, what are you really doing.
It's true that that's one of the major what points against the electrification of our vehicles. I don't know.
I love Lorn Michaels.
Electrification of our vehicle in my day, you push the.
Pop it's dirty energy no matter where it comes from.
H dirty. I don't wait, No, that's the wrong that's the wrong accent. I did the wrong accent.
Very hard to place accent.
This is a shout out Elave Musk, right, But this is uh, this is something that I think we could investigate further chambered in this specific case, we see a microcosm a larger thing happening now. To Matt's point, is it a resource war? Not yet? Not quite yet, however, and I guess I should also say we are all proponents of cleaning energy. As people who are not working in that industry, we keep a pretty close eye on these different alternatives the way they will shake out in
the world. So we are pro those improvements. However, it seems like there's a lot of stuff happening behind the curtain regarding who controls this stuff, how they use it, and where they use it. And so it's important to keep your eye on because right now, for the global public, that is the stuff they don't want you to know. And with that, speaking of segues, we are going to call it an evening Dodd approaches, which means we must
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