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We return to you, fellow conspiracy realist, from some time outside of our fair metropolis of Atlanta. It is also true that we learned quite a bit about Las Vegas. Not enough, We'll have to go back. If you have been checking in with us on our various areas of contact, you will know that this is one of our favorite moments of the week. This is where we get to share your stories with your fellow listeners. We're going to talk about meds. We're going to talk about you know,
We're going to talk about big sugar beekeeping. We're going to talk about those gated communities, those little touch pads or swipe screens you see when you Enteroh woosh, secured areas. Before we do any of that, we are going to read at least one of the many emails we have received in response to our earlier episode on hearing voices scientifically called paracusia or auditory hallucination.
Right, and this one comes from Samurai and this sounds like God, they Matt Widow in an email. I have to say, Samurai here, permission to share is granted. Doesn't that sound like you, Matt?
That's a you thing. Sure, that's a Matt joke.
Sam's an old friend as well.
Yeah, he's been rating for a long time, sure has, and this one is no exception in that he has written it. But it's also very personal perspective. As you mentioned, Maim, just listen to your hearing Voices episode and it made me feel so much better than I am not alone. I started quote unquote hearing voices when I was about thirteen.
At first they were in my own.
Voice, but over the years the voice has changed to various people. I recall a time when it was the voice of Michael York, Carl Sagan, Sean Connery, and Topaul as Tevia in the movie Fiddler on the Roof, and more interestingly, Paulie Shore.
Wow, how about that one got a little grating after a while.
I remember when I was younger being worried about the voice, thinking it was some sign that I was going crazy or something. In fact, I never even talked about the voice I would hear until I was in my twenties and mentioned it to my wife. She did not seem to be concerned, but was quick to explain that she did not experience such a thing. The voice, and I use the singular because it has never been more than one at a time. It may have changed, but I
always knew it was the same person. It never felt like separate identities as you might find in cases of did really quickly. That was something that I think we were all interested in and wanting to make sure that we were doing was separate this idea of this type of audible hallucination from the idea of multiple personalities.
They are two very different things.
It also is inherently a sign of schizophrenia, which is also something very different. People can live very normal lives and you know, to Samuraiz point, maybe not even mention it to anybody, which I would argue maybe probably was tough, you know, opening the email saying it felt lonely, so then to finally have someone that you trusted enough that you could mention it too.
I'm glad that did happen.
But I'm sure for a long time, especially worrying in the way that you must have or that you said you did, Sam, that you were in some way experiencing some form of mental illness that could get worse. I'm really glad you found that ability to share, and I'm glad that we were able to in some small way.
Help with that.
DID stands for disassociative identity discords.
Right, and yep, that's what I was saying.
We was something that came up in the episode that I think, at least me personally, often misconstrued as this being part and parcel of the same thing.
Not the case.
It never felt like separate identities as you might find in cases of DID, with the exception of when I was young, I knew it was just my inner voice. But getting back to what I was saying, the voice was never destructive or harmful. In fact, I would say that it was my realism channel. I found that many times when I was hard or harsh on myself or
feeling self deprecating. It was the voice that would be the voice of reason, that would tell me things along the lines of your human don't do this to yourself, get your ass up and try again. I find that I can use it to my advantage too, by working out problems and letting it help me work out problems and provide arguments and counter arguments for things I'm working
on or in some of my writing. I'm willing to bet that more people than are willing to admit have that voice in their head, but there is such a stigma to admitting it that many people just deny it, though now people would probably admit it more than say, fifty or one hundred years ago. One other thing, thinking about metacognition, The first thing that popped into my mind whenever I hear that word metacognition, that is, is the Nietzsche quote and if you gaze long enough into an abyss,
the abyss will gaze back into you. It's one of our favorites too, Sam that said, how deep down the rabbit hole do you want to go? Alice, There's also a part of me that wonders if you talk to yourself and if you create that separation in yourself that allows you to be able to carry on discussions in your head.
Have you created a new identity within you?
Or have you, maybe speaking as a computer tech that I have been for the power part of thirty years, partitioned a portion of your brain. This reminds me of the bicameral mind stuff that we discuss. I'd love to get into that in a second. Partitioned a portion of your brain as a backup of who you are or who you want to be. We all know that we do not consciously use all of our brain, So is there enough room in there for a backup of who
you are? Do people that have an overly active process of talking to themselves recover better after a stroke that would affect the cognitive portion of their brain than people that do not. These questions answered and more in the follow up to your episode winky face emoji.
Okay, so that last bit was just shower thoughts.
So I thought and question to you five, have you ever had this happen to you? You're so tired and fighting not to go to sleep, Say, while sitting at your desk and you clearly hear a voice ask you a question and you answer aloud, but either you are the only one in the room or the people that are there with you look at you, like what and you realize it was all in your head.
That's it. Thanks for putting up with me, guys. I appreciate the sounding board.
Hmmm. I don't think I've ever had anything like that occur where I'm the only one in a room that heard a voice like audibly say something and then I react to it.
Yeah, it's what you were talking about in the episode, Like, I you know, it's very similar to thinking about what it would feel like to not be able to see you a thing a color, or or for people that can't see color to wonder what it would be like to see it. I can't imagine what this phenomena would feel like, you know, in talking about the bi camera mind stuff and the idea of an internal monologue, I think I harped on it a few times in the episode that like, I don't know if this is what
I'm experiencing, Like I don't hear a thing exactly. I'm imagining kind of what sound is, and I think that might be the same, but it also might not. Like to me, it sounds like these folks that really experience this, truly are hearing a sound inside their head. And I can't fully wrap my head around if I would know the difference. But I think I probably would, so I think I probably haven't experienced it in this way.
I'll tell you this, guys. I've been living alone for a little bit now, and I talk to myself a whole bunch. I sing to myself, and sometimes it's in Sean Connery's voice. I'm not kidding, Samurai. Quite often I'm walking around and just doing Sean looking at beautiful shading words.
Also, you have a probably have a better singing voice than Sean Connery.
Oh I don't know about that. I don't. I don't really have one of.
Those notoriously bad singer.
He's not notoriously amazing singer.
Oh okay, I thought, I'm I thought, got it.
I just I've never really I compliment people.
It is true, Ben, I often walk around house singing directly to you. Whether you know it or not. It's it's straight for your computer. Uh no, I'm just shoking. But yeah, no, I I identify with that thing where maybe well, because see I often like almost play mind tricks, like I'm talking to my dogs right, or I will talk to my dogs, but I'll carry on a conversation that I would be having with another person, pretending that my dogs are responding to me, just as a way
to get through the day. I don't know, is that Is that really strange? Guys?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Neurologists out there, what do you think?
Okay, No, I think people talk to themselves all the time.
I talk out loud, I'll say, I'll exclaim things when no one's looking. I don't see how it's any different than like laughing at a joke when no one's around. It's something you're you know, You're you're having a dialogue with your own personality or your own senses, you know.
I think that's.
Interesting that you bring that up as an analog or at least the closest thing that you're experiencing to hearing voices.
It is the idea of talking to yourself.
In you are hearing you hearing your own, your own voice, and most of the time, you know, these folks, they do seem to differentiate between the personality of that voice and their own personality, which I think is interesting. Ben, Is that something that you've seen as well, like people that talk about having this condition or maybe that's not even the right word that this is.
It feels like.
An external personality that's influencing them, whether positive or negative.
We've heard both sides.
Yeah, going back to your correspondence here, Sam, and thank you as always for writing in the what I said on the earlier episode about hearing voices is true. One of the one of the indicators is, as you pointed out, the idea of identification with the other other communicate as external or internal. Most people may feel they are just hearing an in thought. Right, going back to the by camera mind stuff. One big flag if you struggle with this is whether or not the audio seems to be
coming from one ear quote unquote or in stereo. And I just want to thank Tam real quick. I want to thank you for mentioning some of the important things that we got to in the episode. For anyone who does experience this actively, this phenomenon of paracusia or auditory verbal hallucinations, they are not necessarily always deleterious. They are
not necessarily always bad for you. And on that note, I'd also like to thank everybody who reached out after hearing that episode, even if I only heard you in my head, thanks so much.
Yeah, And you know, the more I think we all look into this, the more we you know, not only are hearing amazing stories from you, but there are quite a few really good TED talks out there from folks that have experienced this phenomenon, some really good kind of many documentaries that we mentioned on the episode.
But it really does make me want.
To find out more because I think oftentimes we are imprisoned in our own perspectives, and it's historically the case that people who experience things differently are othered and often persecuted and I think sometimes dismiss true or dismissed yeah, which is probably more the case today, but there's probably
examples of the others as well. So I think it's just, you know, an important thing to realize that this is something that occurs, It is real for people who experience it, and it is not something that should be dismissed or become cause or maybe a justification for treating people.
In a negative way. To me, that's I think always a lesson to learn about things like this when you.
Think about just because I don't hear it doesn't mean it's not real, and it doesn't mean that you aren't struggling with it or to Sam's point, benefiting from it.
I love that side of it. You know, you think about the.
Cartoon devil and the cartoon angel, and I think we mentioned, you know, on the episode, the idea of a conscience. You know, I'll always let your conscience be your guide. And that can be a voice, and it can be a voice in quote fingers, or it can be an actual voice. And I think that's incredible. And you know, obviously it all depends on set and setting. I think that came up in the episode as well, and also just you know, what's going on in a person's life.
These voices can compete. They can be you know, the good voice, the bad voice. There can be many. It's a very interesting phenomenon and I look forward to learning more about it. So thank you Sam for sharing your story and sharing, you know, your perspective and being comfortable enough with us to share it.
We appreciate it.
I agree.
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All Right, we've returned, and we are going to jump to the phone lines. We got a message from someone Anonymous.
Ad a longtime listener, first time caller, was calling to get you guys to talk about med bets. My mother has gone fully down the kind of Pastela non process and she's buying crystals and buying all sorts of crazy shit in this search of eternal life. And I think that this is one of the biggest scams going on within the QAnon movement, and I would love to see you guys kind of take the and bring it to task. My understanding is is that there's already a medbed hotels.
In England, I believe, and it just is a grift as far as I can tell, And even my mother has had some falling outs because of people who were on their deathbeds who had invested in this technology that was going to cure them.
And I think that it's something.
You need to really address and kind of come to understand so that these flim flan men don't keep taking these boomers for a ride. Well, love to hear back from you. I'd love to see you guys produce the content. Feel free to give me a callback if you need to.
Right, all right, Anonymous anonymous we with stories about med beds. Now, Guys, before I jump into anything, have you ever heard of medbeds? I don't think we've talked about them.
I have never heard of this until hearing this voicemail.
Now, oh boys, I was in the same position just like a few minutes before we started recording here.
It's pretty interesting that what would you say to anybody who has never heard of this?
Well, first, I would say google it, just like you guys did, because it's it's interesting what you'll find. I'm going to kind of give you my journey, I guess of discovering it. The first thing I did is I found a Fox fifty nine post that is literally a copy and paste from an EI in press wire newsmatics like a pr thing, right, they just got just got copied and pasted onto a local Fox news channel in Indianapolis.
And this is what the title is, Energy Spheres bringing plasma energy based medbed technology to homes in the United States and Canada. I'm gonna read just directly from some of this because the language is kind of gonna literally speak to what is happening here?
And is it a little tasty? Do you promise in the end to tell us what pastelanon is. I have no idea what that is, but okay, okay, okay.
Well I also kind of got it in a way like in my.
Crystals, like hippie kind of like snake oil stuff.
That's sort of what I yeah, but also antisabetic so well.
I but see, I don't know if it is or not. I but that's the thing that's gay. I guess tricker with qn on.
We gotta get to medbed first.
Yeah, we do, we do, Okay, so I'm just gonna read it quote. Medbeds and medbed type technology are a new term and subject that is reaching the general public. Although the term medbed can have many meanings, many are hearing this term in reference to energy and frequency based technology.
There are many rumors that the government has med bed pods that will eliminate disease, injuries and other ailments, and although none of that can be confirmed or denied, there are many new frequency based technologies making their way into the public. One of these technologies is called plasma energy spheres, which uses plasma energy and thousands of frequency codes frequencies codes to help rejuvenate the body and cells.
And they're about thirty grand a piece roughly, and they look kind of like a cryopod, you know, from like a sci fi movie.
To fifty thousand crystals, right, because you always want a second currency.
Well, let me just tell you. The most affordable of these med beds that I've found run about thirty five hundred bucks. Okay, undred thirty five hundred.
Thirty five hundred, What do they want? I'm sure you could get them down to thirty two.
That seems like a bargain.
Those are the ones. I think that these are the ones that have these plasma spheres. Now, I wanted to find out, Okay, what are plasma spheres? What do they look like when they're working as a technology incorporated into a bed? Well, boys, I found a little thing here on usamdbed dot com. I've linked to it in our doc I believe it's the third one. And this is the USA medbed Store where you can go and learn about different types of medbds, and I believe you can
make purchases. I didn't actually attempt to make any purchases, but in here it teaches you all about what this means plasma energy spheres and plasma wave generators and how they function to quote, heal the body of all kinds of different things, right, which we have to state right here. Okay, there is no proven technology. There are no clinical tests things going on that can show that this specific technology, these specific energies can actually heal bodies of anything. Okay,
that right now is the truth. That is what's going on. If someone tells you otherwise, they're probably trying to get one over on you. This might have some kind of effect on you, but it's not going to heal you. And do you know why?
Why is that?
These plasmaspheres Guys, you may have seen these in a store at the mall before.
Oh sharper image spencer gifts.
That's it.
You've seen your local science center. It's the thing that you put your hand on and makes your hair stand up. Right, Yes, that's different, well sort of. There's the one where you put your hand on the orb and then the little tinglings come and touch your fingies.
Yeah, what if you could lay on it? You know the question every middle schooler has had, United States.
But that's not at all what's happening here. There are two of them that get placed on either side of the bed, vertical or horizontal sites well, it would be horizontal sides, okay, left hand and right hand sides of the bed, and then the human being or human beings lay down in the center of those and then somehow frequencies from those two things pass through you and it helps with stuff, at least according to that USA medbed dot com website, it says generates a plasma energy field
in small rooms. The plasma spheres are portable devices, so there's no connection to power or a power supply pollution. Okay. They can also be used in nature away from electromagnetic pollution. You can kind of see what's happening here, right stuff I talked about.
You're a little bit of a vibe with us one.
Yeah, there's definitely a vibe going on. There are diagrams on that site that show you what are those? Is it Karellian photography the type of photography that auras. Yeah, there's images that look like that on here. It's just I don't know, it seems on the surface, I'm already agreeing with our anonymous color like this feels off to me.
Did you happen to catch the BBC article The Truth about med Beds and Miracle Cure that doesn't exist.
Oh yes, that is really good.
Takes and quotes in that one from shout out to journalist Mike Wendling.
Yeah, yeah, from just just a couple of years ago. And there's one part in particular that features a doctor who kind of spends a lot of time either debunking kind of junk medic medical claims and things like that, and he had this to say, it's really hard to define something that does not exist. The trial referring to, you know, some claim of a clinical trial that the companies that make these are referring to.
The trial is nothing.
It tells you to lay on your bed and think really hard about the med bed. In their defense, they do list on their website and the very fine print down to the bottom of the medbed is not meant to treat or diagnose illnesses, and then goes on to talk about how the FDA is partly to blame because all you have to do if you have a device like this that is completely useless is register it because
it's a device, but it doesn't actually do anything. Therefore, it doesn't require FDA testing or certification, so you can make the claim that it's FDA registered, but that's absolutely meaningless m oh.
In that same article, it states there were some versions of these beds. Again, not a single med bed is
created equal, surely, right, because they're all different manufacturers. They've all got different components that you're buying, different features, many of them technological, like an iPad of sorts that then connects up to other technologies that are a part of the bed or to be used with the bed, and you can kind of upgrade to your heart's content until you're spending twenty literally twenty thousand dollars US on one of these things. So, guys, I want to find out more.
And I wondered if there's a place that I could use a MED bed. Could I go to like a spa and experience a MED bed? So I found a place in San Clemente, California, is called O two Wellness, and they've got on their website listed somewhere under services a page titled the med bed and it says experience of the med bed. Our medbed combines p EMF infrared heat and brainwave Entrainment and trainment E n t r AI n M E MT. To promote that I.
Don't know it exists in English it's got a cunk on Earth kind of thing.
Way.
The way they're applying it, yeah, ask uh uh sort of begs further explanation. Is well, I'm being very diplomatic here.
Well, and this is the part that flummekes me a little bit. It says, uh, it uses those to promote healing and balance in the mind and body. So healing and balance. Whether you are perfectly healthy or you want to treat a specific condition or symptom, the medbed can help.
If people were all perfectly healthy, none of them would have died, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but this is this is the part that irks me, and orks I think it irks everybody. It's said, well, except for people who believe in it, And there are a lot of people who believe this, like wholeheartedly, that this medbed, this these technologies are somehow going to help. And I don't want to just make anybody that would
believe that feel bad. It's just we know that this there's no way that this medbed can treat things like or help with acute or chronic pain and injuries, allergies, autoimmune diseases, neuropathy, cataracts, Crohn's disease, diabetes, depression, lack of energy, heartburn, herniated disks, immune support, ibs, kidney stones, menopause, migraines, obesity, It goes on and on and on and on and on.
The only one I heard that is provable there is is lack of energy. Right, if you get a lay down at any point.
That's gonna help.
That's gonna help a little. But the rest of it, to your nepe Matt and to you ad On, it seems a bit broad in application. Whether it stands for meditation bed or what is it medical bed, then it seems like they're promising a lot, and to Nole's point, it seems like they're not being required to prove efficacy. So no, it is a little can surname.
You know.
It's interesting too.
In that article that we were talking about, there's a company that keeps coming up called Tesla.
Yeah, no relation to the relation.
Right, And that's like a branding nightmare. Tesla Biohealing.
I guess that's where Tesla is, Tesla Motors is Tesla bio Healing. It is a famous individual's last name. I guess it's no one can own Tesla out right, maybe, but I don't know it's the subtitle matters. But anyway, on the top of the article, there's a picture of like what looks like a pay by the you know our.
Type fleabed fleabag motel.
Somewhere in Mississippi or on the Mississippi River is what it says, that has been converted into a Tesla medbed center.
And it is.
It is scuzzy looking, it's rough and apparently this company sells their med beds for twenty grand, but you can get time with one for just one hundred and sixty bucks.
Well see, but now that's crazy because when I talked to the actually lovely person at O two, and I don't want to cast dispersions on that company at all, because they offer all kinds of things. And again they're offering a service that people are willing to pay for. So whatever, it just seems a little whatever. They were very kind and according to the person I spoke to, it is forty dollars for ten minutes on a med bed, okay. And so when your mind starts to wrap itself around that,
you think, okay, well it's only forty dollars. That's a lot for you know, some people. But you do get ten minutes, but then you realize that's only ten minutes.
How much tumor size reduction?
Are we talking six of an hour?
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. How long do you need to be in there? And the person I spoke to just said, well, people come in a lot.
Also, again, if there is not this guaranteed result. In none of these cases anonymous have their been guaranteed results. There have been claimed testimonials which are very much not the same thing. Sort of how like before Google became alphabet, they said don't be evil, which is not the same thing as saying be good or do well.
You know.
Also, the idea it only really look it reminds me a bit of the ivy things that sprung up where they say we're going to just put some nutrients straight into your veins, and there is efficacy, there is advantage to that, but perhaps not all of the advantages advertised right by the people who want to hook you up to the thing. You could say that, you could say that overall, yes, people are stressed. Overall, yes, people do need time to go horizontal and relax for a little bit.
You know, why not? What what differentiates a medbed from a sense dev tank. You could put the same technology in both. And I like multifunctional things.
That's a good point, ben.
And also like, I don't think anyone's claiming that a sensory deprivation tank is going.
To cure you of all of your you know, ailments.
It is.
It is more marketed, is sort of a new aid sort of meditative, you know, introspective kind of thing in my understanding at.
Least, Yeah, yeah, I think if you meditate like that, it's going to be good for you. But if you and well here's the other thing, if you placebo think that pe m f right, that whole plasma electromagnetic field therapy thing sure is going to somehow have an effect on you. Maybe it will.
Maybe.
If you go to I MRS Prime pr ime dot com, you can see the specific type of med bed which is really just a computer system that you apply on a bed that is the one that is at that two wellness place, and you can again, you can read all about it until you get to the very bottom. And just like that BBC article says noluh, it says the IMRS Prime Wellness system is not licensed or certified
as a medical device. The system is not intended to diagnose, cure, treat, mitigate, or prevent any particular disease or symptom of a disease.
And that same warning applies to this show.
Yes, what was that catch all term the Anon used? Pistachio gonon, what was it pastell and pstell. I still want to know more about that.
Oh, it's not as deep redque.
The whole reason people are super excited about not the whole reason. The reason this is getting traction. We didn't even talk about that. Well, it's not because it's not directly because of q Andon, but there are so many rumors that are being spread, just spread everywhere, especially weirdly enough, as our anonymous caller is saying, in slightly older generations, like just be beyond ours that speak of elysium level technology,
of these special beds that cure anything and everything. No matter how dead you are or how hurt you are, this thing's gonna get you and you'll be fine, just come right back.
And it's the extreme like the QAnon tie, right, is that this elysium level I love that, Matt. This elysium level technology is used to keep Jay Fitzgerald pop pop Kennedy alive until such a time as his revelatory return.
Well, and it's tied that too, but now it's gone beyond that. Now it is just oh, these oh yeah, you heard about the med the medbeds, right that they've got this freaking med beds, the Illuminatis guy or you know, and it just becomes something people will talk about and just mention, and it's just kind of accepted as it continues.
I just want an add to the whole Uh. I think you brushed over this for maybe I didn't quite get an answer. But pastellanon is just specifically kind of like an aesthetic quality of spreading some of these QAnon type memes, Like remember the Wayfair scandal, where there was this whole rumor that like Wayfair, the furniture company, it was doing sex trafficking and.
Stuff like that.
But a lot of the pastellanon thing comes from a feminine aesthetic that's that's associated with spreading these types of messages. So it'll be like nice, soft, warm colors and like wavy text sort of like eat prey love kind of signage, but spreading you know, Q kind of conspiracy stuff.
Interesting.
I did not I did not know that that's really fascinating.
Oh yeah, we're looking to that more.
All right.
Well, hey, that's all we know for now. Anon. We hope your mom's okay. We hope anyone out there who is using one of these medbeds who has experienced with it will write to us and tell us your experience and just let us know how you feel about it. That would be great. We'll be right back with more messages from you.
And I'd like to start this segment by thinking, again, everybody who wrote in this is fascinating stuff. I want to be fully clear at the end of this listener mail segment, I may do something that is considered a bit of an advertisement, perhaps problematic. What are we talking about? You'll see in a moment. Our first letter comes from glass Gate. Glassgate first off says you're welcome to read
what I've written. If you wish, please refer to me as Class Skate, and then notes they would love for us to cover and for us to dive deep into homeowner associations to do an episode on Hoa's. We've talked about it a bit. I think we agree it's a I think we agreed to an episode in the future and Glassgate is writing to us about operational security. You know, how you go to a community that has some sort
of gated thing like a touchpad or a card swipe. Yeah, and glass Skate says, I wouldn't say these gates are completely ineffective, but I do think they mostly serve as a reminder to help honest people stay honest and to give residents a false sense of security. At one of my prior jobs, I would work with a gatecode system and have become familiar with a handful of them. Like many other systems, a lot of gatecode systems have a default gate code. A large number of communities never changed
nor disable that default code. So if someone happens to be familiar with a list of these gate codes, they could sit and try multiple default codes to see if they could get it. Now, let's pause there first reactions. Have you guys ever done.
This found a default gate code?
Yeah?
No, but sounds good.
I just try six sixty six on all of them, just to see.
I bet that, you know what? I bet that works in Los Angeles and Las Vegas one hundred or yeah one like that? Yeah, I do the sequential number. Uh No, I don't.
I don't actually do this, I'm.
I mean, it would be kind of creepy, right, isn't that like going and testing people's gates.
Well, if it's if it's people's gates, that's different from an institution, that fair intriguing.
It is the people's gate who live behind said gate.
Right Again, if it's an institution, it's far less ethically fraught, and Glassgate continues and says. In addition, a lot of gate systems have a code that's designated for emergency services. That means that anytime anyone in emergency, police, fire, or medical services who is given one of these codes for access basically has that code going forward. Modern systems make it easier to change codes, but because emergency services need access at unexpected times, it's generally not too wise to
change those codes. The code works just like any other, so in many systems it's not like it's likely to alert anyone that the emergency access code was used. In some systems it may hit a log, but it's rare that a system allows a special notification to be sent and that someone has taken time to set up such a notification. Kind of scary to pause here, because it sounds like and you guys correct me if I'm off base.
It sounds like what glass Gate is saying is that there are a lot of people who get handed skeleton.
Keys and then it never gets changed.
And it never gets changed. Does that sound about right?
I think so?
Yeah, certainly, yeah, And glass Gate continues like some sort of hellish Billy mays. But wait, it gets worse. Long ago, I worked for a consolidated police and fire Department nine one one dispatch center which covered all of Salt Lake County. Our computer aided dispatch system would keep records on addresses anything they dispatch for and would add what are called
hazard flags to any address. And one of the things they would use in that hazard field, right, that sort of metadata for sending people out was the emergency access gatecode for any quote, apartment, complex, community organization, company, you name it. And while that stuff was pretty up to date, because there were emergencies of plenty, I imagine there was very little logging in place in order to track who add access to that information. The logs would not do
anything substantive in terms of chain of command. And I'm paraphrasing a lot here.
But basically they wouldn't pinpoint an individual's access, right, that's what it's saying, right.
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what Glassgate is said. And Glas goes on to say, here's a quick list of anyone I can think of right off the top of my head who would have access. And now we have a four point bullet list. Maybe we round robinet. Now you want to start.
Sure, every police officer or detective in many employees of any police department we dispatched for, which was almost all of them in the county, which, again, theoretically that's good. Right, A police officer can gain access if you're stuck in your apartment or a part of your apartment complex, or even job right at your place of business and you're in trouble, an officer can come and aid you. Theoretically that's good.
Every firefighter at emergency medical technician as well as most fire department employees in the entire county.
And the third would be various contractors that Glassgate Center worked with at various times, sometimes or long sustained periods.
Oh boy, yeah, I'm just here to do it.
I'm just here to do the HVAC.
Yeah, we were talking about this on that news piece. You brought Matt about the Los Angeles killings of the young women very close to one another, and that's sort of where this came up.
I don't know if this is what glass.
I think that's exactly referencing. I think Glassgate is doing.
Yeah, and the uh And to continue, the fourth point would be, perhaps most importantly, says Glassgate, basically every employee of the company which created and maintained the system. The last point is important, says Glassgate, because this was a popular CAD system used across the country for not the county, the country, for small to mid sized agencies. The employees of this business effectively have access to gate codes across the entirety of the United States. Again, the company was
based in Utah, does not have remote employees. And then Glassgate says the following, And you know what, let's round robin this again. Somebody pick up here that said, consider.
This, Motorola provides their own CAD or computer aided dispatch system. The targets large agencies.
Idea what one looks like or how secure its information might be. But they bought out the company which supplied the CAD system to which I'm referring to years ago.
So feasibly. A lot of employees at Motorola now also have access to that sort of information.
Yeah, Motorola has offices in twenty four locations across the country. They have innumerable contractors and provide CAD systems to agencies small and large.
Sleep type gentlemen.
Yeah, well, see, it's just so. Anyone that installs your home security system, anyone who installs your garage door, you know, any company that has those things has these default codes.
Any delivery service that visit you regularly such that you say, hey, it's more convenient for you to just be able to get in and drop it off.
It's not fun.
It's not fun. It is a It is an important point. And you know this will be of great interest not only to you Glassgate, but I think to all of us tuning in this evening. There is a device that you can buy to play along at home called the Flippers zero. Have you heard of this?
No, tell us.
The Flipper zero is a relatively affordable let's call it a multi tool for pin testers and geeks until they describe themselves. The Flipper zero is something that can play with radio protocols, control systems, access hardware, things like that it's open source, it's customizable, you can play along with it. And what I'm saying is to add to your point, glass Gate, these entry thresholds often they're socio they're they're social barriers, they're not hard barriers.
Uh.
The Flipper zero might be scary to people because think of how many modern cars work on a keyfob. You know, that's all just what a radio frequency. I'm not an expert, but if one could emulate that radio frequency, a lot more cars are unlocked. It reminds me a little bit of the the the small picket fences that are ornamental that you see outside of so many houses in the suburbs. They go up to about your waist, and you think that is not even stopping short of it's more of a suggestion.
Yeah, is this the one you said I would be really interested in, Ben.
Yes, I put that in our notes. I thought you would be very interested in the flipper zero, Matt.
Why because.
It's a way to explore different signals right vasively as well. It's fascinating. In full disclosure, this should not at all ever be used for anything illegal, And in full disclosure, I'm sure there are people using this for illegal means I don't think even law enforcement should have a skeleton key to all fob operated car bocks.
Well, hey, weirdly enough, guys, I've got I've either got a poltergeist living in and around my garage or somebody tampered with my external garage door opener that I have, which is a whole lot of fun.
Really, So, yeah, you thought that you accidentally left it open, but in fact it has been spontaneously opening.
Yeah, it's not functioning anymore. The password got changed on it, and I was like, huh, that's kind of strange. I was gone for a little while.
That's concerning because also, yeah, we were talking earlier and you said you left the garage door open, and it just seems very unlike you.
Yep. So that's fun. The good thing is if they come in my house, they got to deal with me.
So well, that is that is a chilling point about this, and it's one that perhaps Glassgate is referring to here. The things that may seem secure are I don't know. I'm just thinking about like chain of custody, what do you It's like asking about changing your password. How often does one change one's password?
Right?
How do you how do you change those codes? For law enforcement?
Yeah, I mean our work one requires us to do it every so often, but I bet most people take the path of least resistance and just add a digit on there.
You know.
Whatever happened on is password wallets, remember those Those are popular for a minute, right, will generate you you have a master password that it generates you random passwords that are really complicated. You think there'd be one of those for a home security system, you know, or something along those lines, where you would know that it would cycle through, you know, in a way that it couldn't be replicated.
There might be a that's a good question for the home security stuff. I imagine for direct access or even remote access, there's the facial recognition, some kind of soft biometric going in.
You know, movies are any indication all you got to do is scoop somebody's eye out and then you hold it up to the thing and then you get access to the launch deck.
We've all learned this.
Yeah, yeah, Well, the thing that movies miss, I think often is that the eye scans that they're alluding to, which are real things, also factor in temperature of the eye, So you gotta it's.
Like gotta be fresh.
It's like cheating on a test, you know what I mean, Like the people who cheat on piss tests will try to have whatever fake piss warm. You gotta like kind of you know, roll the eye around a little bit in your hands.
Yeah, yeah, those piss tasts take that into account if you buy those kids.
So I've heard they come with little handwarmer.
Things and you and you and you keep them in there and they warm it up and then you keep it close to.
Your body can strip on there. That tells you what the temp is. So I've heard, is what I say.
Right.
Also, I'm kidding about the temperature of the eyeball. It's not going to work. Please, if you're hearing this and you thought you were on the fence about it, don't take someone's eye out and try to get into that place because it's also it's going to need to be an actionable eye. And the technology to create something that dilates that way and responds that way to light without being plugged into a human skull is very non existent.
Well you say so you need an actionable eye. I get you an actionable actionable eye.
Oh you know, ah, you.
Know you got ane with a guy.
I got an actional eye guy.
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