It’s a big fat Holly & Jenna recap episode! What did we get up to this year? What games, movies, and tv shows did we love? What new sexual experiences did we encounter? And what is coming up for us in 2025?? Support the show MERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod X: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod YouTube: https://www.yout...
Dec 19, 2024•1 hr 35 min•Season 4Ep. 80
NSWP (Global Network of Sex Work Projects): https://www.nswp.org/members APNSW (Asia Pacific Network of Sex Workers): https://apnswnew.wordpress.com/membership/members/ Sources: https://soundcloud.com/socialismconf/behind-the-rescue-sex-work-migration-and-the-anti-trafficking-industry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CfYvmGIzRE https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-white-savior-industrial-complex/254843/ https://www.artofcitizenry.com/podcast/episode-15-rescue-industry ht...
Dec 05, 2024•54 min•Season 4Ep. 79
Well, the time has come. We are finally doing a deep dive on the Nordic Model! End Demand, Swedish Model, Equality Model... whatever you want to call it, it sucks. Sources: Sex in the New Europe: The Criminalization of Clients and Swedish Fear of Penetration, Kulick, 2003 Twenty Years of Failing Sex Workers: A community report on the impact of the 1999 Swedish Sex Purchase Act, Fuckforbundet, 2019 Sex Work and the Nordic Model (w/ Freja and Elizabeth), The Importance of Being Feminist, 2021 The ...
Nov 21, 2024•59 min•Season 4Ep. 78
The film The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas was released in 1982, based on the 1978 musical, based loosely on a true story. The movie stars Dolly Parton and Burt Reynolds and this week Holly and Jenna are sharing their thoughts on it! Support the show MERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod X: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod Y...
Oct 24, 2024•1 hr 10 min•Season 4Ep. 77
Combining 15 years as a professional undresser, award-winning stripper, pole dancer, & 🌽 star with an international research portfolio spanning SWer activism, LGBTQ+ health, sexual rights and sextech, it’s Zahra Stardust! Order Indie Porn: Revolution, Regulation, and Resistance: https://avidreader.com.au/p/indie-porn-revolution-regulation-and-resistance Support the show MERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: ...
Oct 03, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Season 4Ep. 76
Pomma Granet, also known as Blair Bishop, also known as OnlyPomma, Juicy Pomma, Succubus Slut, and a host of other usernames given how many times they’ve had accounts deleted, is a New York-based full service sex worker, adult content creator, BDSM & fetish provider, cammer, and much more. Blair describes themselves as a bit of a nerd - they love video games, cosplay, anime, crafting, and alternative fashion and they are often traveling the country for anime conventions. They also spend a lo...
Sep 19, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Season 4Ep. 75
CW: Stalking, harassment, sexual assault Welcome to part 2, and apologies for the darkness of these episodes! This time Holly & Jenna each share another story of stalking/harassment, as well as talk about the red flags they’ve learnt to watch out for, parasocial relationships, hitting on people at work, and female perpetrators. Support the show MERCH: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/so...
Sep 05, 2024•1 hr 9 min•Season 4Ep. 74
CW: Stalking, harassment, sexual assault, animal death. We use the term “grandfathered” in this episode. We understand this term has very racist origins, and we apologise for the mistake. A better term would have been “legacy rates” While we are not more likely to be victims of violence because we sell sex, we are more likely to be victims of violence because people think the fact that we sell sex makes us less than human. Which is the whole reason this podcast exists. Today Holly & Jenna ar...
Aug 22, 2024•59 min•Season 4Ep. 73
Holly finally convinced Jenna to watch Pretty Woman and here we are! Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod X: http://www.x.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://www.scarletalliance.org.au/ ACT (SWOP ACT): https://meridianact.org.au/swop/ NSW (SWOP NSW): https://swop.org.au/ NT (...
Aug 08, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Season 4Ep. 72
Note: we had some technical issues when recording this episode, so unfortunately the audio isn’t at the level we usually like to deliver! Buy SLUTDOM: https://www.uqp.com.au/books/slutdom-reclaiming-shame-free-sexuality Dr Hilary Caldwell has been a sex worker for over 20 years and decided to come out of hiding to publish her first book. She is an academic with a Masters in Health Science and Applied Science. Her doctorate, ‘Women Who Buy Sex in Australia’ was the first study in the world to e...
Jul 25, 2024•53 min•Season 4Ep. 71
How do I ask how recently they were tested for STIs? How do I ask for us to do something different this time? What if I get down there and it smells really bad? Holly & Jenna give you tips on how to tackle tricky topics and sticky subjects. They also answer the listener question “Is there room for older ladies to succeed in SW?” Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod MERCH: http://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twit...
Apr 18, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Season 4Ep. 70
In part three of this series (make sure you’ve listened to parts 1 & 2 if you’re new or thinking about joining the industry!), we’re talking about the actual booking - how do you keep time, how to set up for and run a booking, how to do health checks, tips for building assertiveness, and what mental self care is necessary in this job. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyo...
Mar 28, 2024•54 min•Season 4Ep. 69
In part two of this series, we are moving more into the logistics of the job itself. Holly and Jenna talk about advertising & advertising platforms, dealing with time wasters, screening, getting deposits, and supplying invoices. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod Somebody You Love is sponsored by Assembly Four, empow...
Mar 14, 2024•55 min•Season 4Ep. 68
Michael (he/him), and Louise (she/her) both lost their “virginity” to sex workers and they’ve both agreed to share their stories on the show! *Virginity is a social construct, but we talk about that more in the episode. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the follow...
Feb 29, 2024•52 min•Season 4Ep. 67
Yep, this week we are mining reddit for content. We read out the SW-related stories of contributors to /r/AITA and decide if we think: NTA (not the arsehole) YTA (you are the arsehole) NAH (no arseholes here) ESH (everyone sucks here) Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex work in Australia, please check...
Feb 15, 2024•1 hr 15 min•Season 4Ep. 66
Get your jazz hands ready, we’re doing musicals! Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/41U6nuxshQciTYfLLnIsfb?si=a50dc606af40463e Songlist: 1. I Dreamed a Dream (Les Miserables, 1980) 2. Lovely Ladies (Les Miserables, 1980) 3. The Movie in my Mind (Miss Saigon, 1989) 4. The Transaction (Miss Saigon, 1989) 5. No One Knows Who I Am (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990) 6. Bring on the Men (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990) 7. Someone Like You (Jekyll & Hyde, 1990) 8. Out Tonight (RENT, 1994) 9. I Don...
Feb 02, 2024•43 min•Season 4Ep. 65
Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/41U6nuxshQciTYfLLnIsfb?si=a50dc606af40463e Mandatory article: https://www.mandatory.com/culture/1066689-the-10-best-songs-about-prostitutes Song list: 1. Call Me (Blondie, 1980) 2. What Would You Do (City High, 1999) 3. Sweetest Girl (Wyclef Jean, 2007) 4. Slut Money (ZAND, 2020) 5. The A Team (Ed Sheeran, 2011) 6. None of Your Business (Salt-N-Pepa, 1993) 7. Sugar Daddy (Qveen Herby, 2020) 8. Lady Marmalade (Labelle, 1974) and then by Xtina, M...
Jan 18, 2024•36 min•Season 4Ep. 64
TW: Shit People Say mentions sexual assault Meet Charlie Bear, a trans, non-binary sex worker based in Melbourne, on Wurundjeri land. They were assigned female at birth, but currently live in a body that falls between female and male, and use they/them pronouns. They see clients of all genders, and are on the show today to talk about the gender binary, the SWERF 'n' TERF lunch special, and both the privileges and pressures that come with being an 'out' non-binary sex worker. Charlie’s website: c...
Jan 04, 2024•1 hr 12 min•Season 4Ep. 63
Holly spreads the festive fun while Jenna tries to maintain her strong boundaries around frivolity. CHAPTERS 04:32: Sexy Gift Giving Guide 2023 20:50: Porno or not-porno? 26:30: Holiday traditions 50:17: New Years Booking Wishlists LINKS Pipedream Fantasy for her – Her ultimate pleasure: https://www.randyfox.com.au/fantasy-for-her-her-ultimate-pleasure-licking-sucking-pleasure-pump.html Alliance Ultra Plush MIcrofibre Pillow: https://www.mydeal.com.au/alliance-ultra-plush-microfibre-pillow-stand...
Dec 21, 2023•1 hr 1 min•Season 4Ep. 62
Season 4 is here and we’re finally tackling the minefield of a topic that is male escorts! 01:00 Main Segment: The Problem with Male Escorts 57:25 Shit People Say: “you're definitely not seeing clients in the family home” Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Merch: https://www.somebodyyoulove.net/store Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex...
Dec 07, 2023•1 hr 7 min•Season 4Ep. 61
CW: Deaths of peers 54:29 - 1:00:00 For our final episode of season 3 we’re filling you in on what has happened in the world of Holly & Jenna (and Mr Love) over the last two years of Somebody You Love. What’s changed, what hasn’t, and what’s to come. And we answer a listener question on the topic of sex worker ethics Bella Green’s book ‘Happy Endings’: https://www.booktopia.com.au/happy-endings-bella-green/book/9781760982768.html ‘The’ Buzzfeed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWm9rdU6...
Aug 31, 2023•1 hr 20 min•Season 3Ep. 60
CW: Weight loss, fatphobia Holly & Jenna interview Lex Leigh - a nerdy gamer girl who has worked in the adult industry her entire adult life, including online and in person, and over the last few years has lost a total of 50kgs. She shares with us her reasons for wanting to lose weight, the physical and mental toll it has taken on her, and the reactions of clients/fans and her peers. Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: h...
Jun 01, 2023•55 min•Season 3Ep. 59
CW: SW slurs Why don't we like to be called "prostitutes"? When did this start and what are the alternatives? What is the harm in using slurs? What are the common arguments people use to continue saying the p-word? We know we've said we don't like the word on our show, but we've not gone into depth and we've received a few questions about it, so here's a whole hour dedicated to this gross word (that SWers are welcome to reclaim if they wish)! Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Tw...
Apr 13, 2023•1 hr 4 min•Season 3Ep. 58
Charlie has many years experience in different areas of the industry, having started initially in Aotearoa (New Zealand) doing online work as well as full service. He is currently the Male Project Worker at SWOP NSW and he joins us today to talk to us about how and where M4M sex work takes place, hookup culture and opportunistic work, resources and access to community, and safer sex practises. 1:52: Main segment 41:07: Shit People Say Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: h...
Mar 16, 2023•49 min•Season 3Ep. 57
Sophie is renowned for being the only German trans mistress in Australia and she recently announced her intentions to retire from SW this year, due to the negative experiences she has encountered as a trans person within the industry. We’ve had gender diverse people on the show before, but thus far we haven't delved into the challenges unique to this community, so we invited Sophie on the show to share her perspective. Meaningful Work: Transgender Experiences in the Sex Trade: https://www.transe...
Feb 16, 2023•59 min•Season 3Ep. 56
Jenna managed to convince her mum to be on the show, and here she is - giving us the full, honest lowdown on what it’s like to have your daughter tell you she’s a sex worker. Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex work in Australia, please check out the following organisations: Scarlet Alliance: https://...
Jan 19, 2023•41 min•Season 3Ep. 55
CW: Mentions of sexual assault This week Holly & Jenna explain what you might expect when going to get STI tests and share some of their own horror stories of going to do so. Jenna shares a Shit People Say interaction with someone who thinks she is running a sting operation, and a listener sends in a thoughtful and nuanced question about how we can best support providers when they are going through a horrible time. 1:19: Main Segment: Sexual health gaps in the medical system 51:46: Shit Peop...
Dec 29, 2022•1 hr 7 min•Season 3Ep. 54
Mr Love is Jenna’s husband and primary partner of 13 years. He’s also our sound engineer, and probably would’ve preferred to keep it that way, but Jenna & Holly somehow managed to convince him to make a guest appearance on the show, so here he is! Patreon (from $3AUD/month): http://www.patreon.com/somebodyyoupod Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/somebodyyoupod Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/somebodyyoupod For more info on sex work in Austra...
Dec 15, 2022•49 min•Season 3Ep. 53
Today Holly and Jenna are giving their uncensored opinions on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation 's (ABC) Compass TV Special 'Nude Next Door', while hoping they don't get sued. Nude Next Door featured our very own Jenna Love, along with Billie Beever, Coralea Jade, Billie Peques, and Phoebe Thompson. Watch the doco here (You'll need a VPN if you're not in Australia): https://iview.abc.net.au/show/nude-next-door Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/somebodyyoupod Twitter: http://www.twitter.c...
Dec 08, 2022•53 min•Season 3Ep. 52
TW: Trauma (obviously), and sexual trauma Don't worry, we're not about to trauma dump on y'all. We're discussing the narrative of "xx% of sex workers have experienced childhood trauma" which is apparently supposed to be an argument against decriminalisation? Or human rights for sex workers? We're not entirely sure, tbh, but we're tackling it in this episode. We answer a question about whether we get nervous when meeting new clients, and we've got a short, but hopeful, Shit People Say for you. Pa...
Nov 17, 2022•39 min•Season 3Ep. 51