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Social Distance

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Journalists from The Atlantic document the first 15 months of the coronavirus pandemic through regular phone calls. Listen in as Dr. Jim Hamblin, the producer Katherine Wells, and the comedian and the writer Maeve Higgins ask journalists, experts, and friends about the news and science behind the pandemic, get some advice, and learn how to apply it.

Episodes

The Air Conditioning Question

Jim explains how ventilation affects the spread of the virus with yet another unwieldy metaphor. Plus, a puppy update. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 24, 202019 minEp. 64

People Are Panic Moving

In the last few months, many people who have the option have chosen to leave big cities. Will their departures be permanent? Staff writer Amanda Mull has been talking to demographers to find out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 22, 202027 minEp. 63

Serenity Now

As the virus continues to spread, how do we reckon with the reality of ongoing death and disruption? Public theologian Ekemini Uwan explains the idea of “radical acceptance.” Read Ekemini’s piece in The Atlantic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 17, 202029 minEp. 62

Should I Be Taking Something?

Supplements and vitamins claim to “boost your immune system.” Jim explains why this is nonsense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 15, 202029 minEp. 61

An Extremely Bizarre Plan to Play Basketball

Rising case numbers, an empty theme park, and 22 teams in quarantine. What could go wrong? Joel Anderson, Slate staff writer and co-host of Hang Up and Listen, joins to explain what's going on with the NBA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 12, 202030 minEp. 60

Can We Sing?

Jim answers listener questions: Is it safe to sing? Should we be worried about asymptomatic spread? Plus, a "kerfluffle" for Katherine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 10, 202025 minEp. 59

Why the Virus Is Spreading So Unevenly

The pandemic isn’t going away, and its spread is hard to predict. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 09, 202027 minEp. 58

Would Defunding Police Make Us Safer?

City and state budgets are in serious trouble after the pandemic-induced economic slowdown. Some protesters have a proposal: defund the police. Sociologist Alex Vitale, author of “The End of Policing,” explains the research and nuance behind the idea. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 05, 202032 minEp. 57

How Limiting Protests Will Spread the Virus

The killing of George Floyd by a police officer in Minneapolis has sparked large protests and marches, giving rise to a new set of concerns about how to safely and effectively exist. Jim and Katherine share the latest on how to protest as safely as possible. Ultimately, safety has less to do with the protesters than those overseeing them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 03, 202019 minEp. 56

Fighting the Machine

The health effects of racism are usually less obvious than murder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jun 02, 202035 minEp. 55

Sometimes, Things Can Change

The federal government has passed big reforms in response to economic crises before. Could it now? Harvard historian Lizabeth Cohen shares lessons—and warnings—from the New Deal. Read her piece for The Atlantic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 29, 202028 minEp. 54

Is America Going to Make It?

If you watch the news, the country sounds deeply divided about the coronavirus. But polls show an uncommon unity among Americans. Staff writer James Fallows joins to share some historical perspective and answer the question he’s found himself grappling with across his decades-long career: Is America going to make it? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 28, 202029 minEp. 53

Is Anyone Else Not Showering?

Jim spent years writing a book on hygiene beliefs and the new science of the skin microbiome. In it, he suggests that some people overuse cleansers and soaps, and may benefit from doing less. But now, there’s a pandemic, and he also really wants to remind people to wash their hands. Jim tries to explain the nuances of good cleaning and bad cleaning—and why he does not shower in the traditional sense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 26, 202021 minEp. 52

It’s a Small World Health Organization

The president wants to pull the United States out of the WHO. Public health professor Kelley Lee explains what it does and why defunding the world’s main public health body during a pandemic is not a great idea. Plus, Jim shows off his math skills. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 22, 202025 minEp. 51

Is There a Vaccine Shortcut?

There’s promising news around a vaccine, but what does it mean? And should we speed up its development with ‘challenge trials’ by letting vaccinated people be exposed to the virus? Infectious disease expert Dr. Stephen Thomas returns to the show to discuss the medical and ethical issues. Also, Katherine faces a minor challenge of her own. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 202028 minEp. 50

Am I Depressed?

Many of our isolated lives fit the normal criteria for depression, but of course these aren't normal times. So, when the world is this depressing, how do you tell when you're actually depressed? Clinical psychologist Dr. Jennifer Rapke explains how to think through mental health questions in the time of COVID-19. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 18, 202024 minEp. 49

The Comforting Appeal of Conspiracy Theories

A video making outlandish and obviously false claims about the coronavirus is making the rounds on the internet. Adrienne LaFrance joins to talk about the psychology of abandoning the factual realm. Check out "Shadowland" from The Atlantic here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 15, 202027 minEp. 48

Have the Uncomfortable Conversation

It’s hard to talk about end-of-life care. You should do it anyway. Edo Banach, the President & CEO of the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization, explains how to create an advance directive — and the best ways to approach the conversation with loved ones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 13, 202026 minEp. 46

The Racial Contract

The pandemic has made the terms of the “racial contract” visible — but it is a structure that existed long before. Adam Serwer joins to discuss the connection between coronavirus policy and the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia. Read his recent piece in The Atlantic. Note: this week, the show will be publishing on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 11, 202025 minEp. 45

Have You Seen 'The Wretched'?

With most movie theaters closed across the country and no certain timeline for the next big releases, staff writer David Sims gives us recommendations on what to watch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 08, 202027 minEp. 44

Will You Merge Bubbles With Me?

New rituals and ethical conundrums of dating and socializing are beginning to reveal themselves. Staff writer Joe Pinsker joins to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 07, 202028 minEp. 43

Don’t Worry About a ‘New Strain’

Recent news stories raised concerns about multiple ‘strains’ of the coronavirus. Ed Yong joins to explain what’s going on, and why we probably shouldn’t worry right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 06, 202022 minEp. 42

High Risk

Caitlin Flanagan on navigating Stage IV cancer during a pandemic. Read her story in The Atlantic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 05, 202019 minEp. 41

So The Economy is a Disaster

The economic news is catastrophic. And it’s probably going to get worse. Annie Lowrey joins to talk about why the U.S. didn’t fare as well as other countries, and what it needs to do next. Also, Jim talks about walk poetry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 05, 202019 minEp. 41

‘Things Can Change In an Instant’

In many ways, this crisis is unprecedented. But in others, it is not. Gregg Gonsalves became an AIDS activist in the 80s, and is now an epidemiologist working on public health and human rights. He says the history of HIV can offer us warnings -- and some hope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 01, 202026 minEp. 40

The Georgia Experiment

Staff writer and Georgia native Amanda Mull joins to talk about the political forces pushing to reopen her home state. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 30, 202023 minEp. 39

You Are Worthy of Sleep

Katherine is worried Jim is endangering himself and needs to sleep more, so she’s holding an intervention. Tricia Hersey of the Nap Ministry joins to talk about the importance of sleep and how, especially right now, everyone would benefit from prioritizing rest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 30, 202031 minEp. 38

Is Human Touch Necessary?

Jim and Katherine answer questions from listeners. If you have a question, email us at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 202-642-6487. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 28, 202019 minEp. 37

Will the Restaurants Come Back?

What the future of your neighborhood storefront tells us about the outlook for the American city. Derek Thompson joins to explain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 27, 202026 minEp. 36

How Much Does It Cost to Get COVID-19?

What is the financial toll on those who get sick? And will the pandemic change our healthcare system? Dr. Howard Forman, a Yale professor of public health and economics, joins Jim and Katherine to explain the costs of American medicine and what it would take to bring those costs down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 24, 202029 minEp. 35