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Sex Transmutation Explained - (Practical Examples + How To Guide)

Jan 15, 202455 minSeason 3Ep. 53
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Sex transmutation is one of the most important skills men can learn. Napoleon Hill, author of Think and Grow Rich - dedicated a full chapter of his book to "The Mystery of Sexual Transmutation" as a step to greater riches in life - but he failed to explain the real techniques for how he and other successful men have used sexual transmutation in their lives... In this episode, I'll show you how.

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EPISODE TIMES & TOPICS:

0:00 Sex Transmutation Intro

2:44 What is Sex Transmutation?

3:40 Practical Examples

5:24 Transmutation of Ejaculation During Sex

7:08 Porn: Transmuting the Desire

9:15 Sex Transmutation at Work

12:13 Sexual Desire is Healthy (Don't Ignore It)

12:54 Somatics & Transmutation Example

16:52 When Someone Is NOT Attracted to You

17:45 The REACTIVE Model of Sex Transmutation

29:01 Taylor's Personal Sex Example

33:44 The PROACTIVE Model of Sex Transmutation

37:39 Intro to Sexual Energy Integration Exercise

38:36 Exercise: Sexual Energy Integration

43:41 How to End Sex Without Ejaculation

45:25 Sexual Energy Conservation VS Cultivation

49:28 The Most Important Technique of All...

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Transcript

Harnessing Sexual Energy for Personal Growth

Taylor Johnson

sex transmutation will elevate people to the level of genius . And how does that actually happen ? It's through creative , inspirational energy .

Right , if you're sexually depleted , you can still do manual labor , you can still , you know , shovel things , bang things with a hammer , but that edge of extra inspiration and stimulation and thought and ingenuity and inventiveness like that's not so much there .

Hello friend , and welcome to the Sex Upgraded Podcast , a podcast from an all about sex , where we'll combine real , authentic and down to earth conversations about sex , life and relationships with some pretty wild personal stories and practical how-to episodes as well with guest experts from around the world to help you have the most amazing sex life you can possibly

have . My name is Taylor and I'll be your host on this journey , and it's my goal with each episode to give you practical , actionable things you can start doing today to improve your sex life and your entire life , because a thriving sex life will help you thrive in all areas of your life .

So let's begin today's episode by starting with a deep breath in through the nose , into the belly together , exhaling with an audible sigh , and let's get into today's episode Sex transmutation .

It's kind of like breathing we all do it , but most of us don't actually do it that well , and we could stand to improve a lot , and if we optimized it it would improve everything about our entire lives . That's kind of how I like to think about it . Have you ever heard of sex transmutation ?

Jon Handelman

I think I've heard of it , but if you asked me to define it , I wouldn't know how to define it .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , there's not actually that many good resources out there on this , so I decided why not make a podcast and a video on YouTube ? And if you're listening to this , I would actually recommend watching this one on YouTube , because I'm going to demo a couple of things .

You could listen until we get to those points and then switch over and check out the YouTube video , but I'm going to give you some practical tools in this episode for how to actually transmute your sexual energy . It's a really useful thing . But well before we get there I want to introduce this is my friend , john . John is a .

We've been friends for a long time , he's in my men's group and he's also a life coach in Asheville , and I love doing these episodes with you because you ask great questions and it's fun to have a conversation with somebody in real time .

Jon Handelman

Well , I really love being asked to do them too , cause I always learned something that I had never thought about and always walk away with some insight on sex . So I appreciate the work you do and the conversations we get to have .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , man , thank you . Thanks for being here .

Jon Handelman

Sex transmutation . Yeah , I didn't even know we were going to talk about this , until we're right here right now so that's , you take what this desire for sex and turn it into something you want .

Taylor Johnson

Close . I thought you said you didn't know . Well , I was thinking about it as we were talking , and then I was like , oh , maybe , maybe , that's it . Yeah , there's a book behind you on the shelf we don't need to get it out right now but Napoleon Hill and his book Think and Grow Rich . He devoted an entire chapter to sex transmutation .

He says all the most successful men of time have figured out how to do this and it's a really good idea and you should do it too , but he doesn't actually say how to do it . So let's start with the basic definition of sexual transmutation . It's turning your sexual desire into fuel that you can use for anything else that you want to in life .

That might sound a little obscure , so let's make a practical example , because I'm sure you've done this plenty of times , if you're watching this or listening to this like you've also done this plenty of times in your life . Basic example have you ever seen somebody who you felt attracted to and you thought , wow , there's so like , I want them .

And then , because of that , you changed something about yourself , or you improved your life , or you dressed better , or you worked out more , or you did something to appear or up level your worth or value in some way so you could appear more attractive to this person ?

Jon Handelman

Man you're reminding me of every day in my 20s . But yeah , many times , many times from appearance towards to doing something in front of them so they'd notice me , or something like this , totally so that is a basic form of sex transmutation .

Taylor Johnson

You're noticing , when you see this person there's an inspiration , there's some sort of physiological process that happens in the body . It always starts as a sensation and if you really tune in you can pay attention to it and feel it , and it's really interesting to do that . But when that happens , there's an inspiration there , there's a motivation towards action .

I would guess that the first initial motivation for most people , myself included , is to go up to the person where there's a desire for connection , like , oh , I want them . And following that impulse doesn't always the best choice in that moment .

Jon Handelman

Right , it's also scary , totally .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , totally , and sometimes it's not actually the best option . Sometimes it is the best option and we do that and talk to them and it works out great . But that's not sex transmutation .

So sex transmutation is there is this desire , this attraction that happens and then , oh you know what , instead of just like going home and whacking off to porn , I'm going to go work out . So next time I see them I feel better . You know , basic , basic level of form . Okay , that makes sense to me .

Yeah , just a couple other practical examples , because I think it's really useful . Let's take sex , for example . So you're having sex with somebody and you get the urge to ejaculate , and the urge happens pretty early on and you think , like not quite ready for that yet , like I want to keep having sex with this person for a while longer .

So you pause or you do whatever you need to to prolong the sexual experience . That could be a form of sexual energy transmutation . The flip side , or the thing to be aware of here in the definition , is that it's not suppression , right ? So there's a difference .

So I'm not pushing down sexual urges , I'm not pushing down desire , I'm not shoving it under the rug , I'm not pretending it doesn't exist . I'm noticing it , bringing mindfulness there , becoming aware of it and then doing something productive and creative with it .

So , for example , in the sex thing , to make that make a little bit more sense , if I'm having sex with somebody and it's two minutes in and I feel the desire to ejaculate , I'm not going to think about like baseball and spoiled food or whatever the fuck to distract myself and I'm not going to like like tense up and like push it down .

I'm going to breathe with that and I'm going to let that inspiration fuel me and move it throughout my whole body , circulating the sexual energy . There's all kinds of techniques to do that and we'll get into some of that in this episode .

But it's very different from just like holding it back , holding it back , holding it back , which ultimately will lead to ejaculation for most guys anyway .

Jon Handelman

Okay , so you're not denying it , you're acknowledging it and then working with it . Is that right ?

Taylor Johnson

Totally yeah . So this practical episode here's what .

Jon Handelman

here's what yeah , take notes everyone .

Taylor Johnson

Here's what this thing is . Here's kind of how it works . Here's how you can do it in real time . A couple more practical examples . One of them is the desire to watch porn , right , something most guys can relate to .

A lot of guys have realized that watching porn and masturbating to it regularly isn't actually that great for their life , but the desire still happens , and myself included , just actually earlier today , out of nowhere . I was here by myself , I had just finished eating some lunch and I had the desire to watch porn .

I was like , oh , I could just go masturbate and whack off and how great would that be . It's like this drug response and even though , like I've done so much work from my porn addiction in the past , like every once in a while that still comes into you and I can feel it trying to hook me . I'm like wow .

And so I paid attention and I noticed there were sensations around my throat and around my chest and a little bit of heightened somatic activation . And when I say somatic , I basically just mean sensations in the body , right .

But I felt that and I sat with it and I just paid attention to it , and that's not what I would recommend most people do at first it's more like an advanced thing to do , because usually it's helpful to actually do something with that . So what I ended up doing was spending a couple of moments just being aware of it .

And then I did a bunch of pushups and then jumping jacks and I was like cool on to the next thing . So for me in that moment , instead of pursuing the desire to masturbate and watch porn , I harnessed that , sat with it , brought mindfulness into my life , which I believe anytime you do something mindful , it's an overall net positive in your life .

And then I did some physical exercise , which is also a net positive , and then I felt better . Right , so it's using the energetic , emotional , physical stimulus , transmuting that into something else .

Jon Handelman

Right . So you felt this urge happen in your body and you're like , if I go with a logical extension of this urge , I'm going to deplete myself Totally and instead I'll go with mindfulness and then I'll go with action and both these things are going to build me . Yeah , totally .

Taylor Johnson

It's choosing , being intentional , to build something with A couple more just , quick examples . Say you're really attracted to somebody at work . It's not the context to pursue sexual attraction . Say you're really attracted to your friend's partner Cool , they're together . You're not going to pursue that . So there can be .

You have the option to go one of two directions . You can suppress that , which I believe ultimately leads to dis-ease and lack of harmonious interactions with other people , or you can acknowledge it and be real and be like okay , yeah , I'm attracted to this person . Let me feel that . All right , that is actually my own aliveness , feeling attracted to them .

Maybe I can do something else with it . It's a more intentional and skillful way to interact with that and transmute that stimulus and use it for good .

Jon Handelman

I'm noticing that it's a hard thing for me to ever acknowledge to myself , much less anyone else , that I would have attraction to a friend's partner , and so , yeah , I'm curious any steps that would take also to just acknowledge these urges that I guess society has taught us that are shameful or no good or bad or anything like that Totally .

Taylor Johnson

Well , number one , I'm not saying necessarily it's a good idea to tell your friend's partner that you're attracted to them , or to tell your friend . Sometimes , actually , it's really nuanced thing . Sometimes talking about it can actually be a shadow way of adding fuel to the fire of attraction .

Right , yeah , like you can make it come true , yeah for sure , and it can make things awkward when , in fact , the more skillful thing to do would be to just notice it , breathe with it and be honest with yourself . But then choose intentional action and use that stimulus to make your life better . And what is the ultimate desire there ?

Oh , I want a sexy partner . Cool , how do I become somebody who can get a sexy partner ? Oh , these are the things I need to do until I feel like I'm solid in myself . I'm going to do those things now because I see this is what I want . It's the fuel to the action transmutation .

Jon Handelman

Okay . So what I'm noticing is curious from me is this idea of being honest with yourself . I'm curious , in your own experience , anything to say about the process of learning to be honest with your own desires and your own self before you can , because in this process you got to be honest with yourself first , right and go like I actually do want these things .

Any tips for anyone listening on how to be honest with yourself ?

Taylor Johnson

Totally . I also want to just side note , astrick , we're going to come back around to it there are actual more specific sexual techniques to do to delay ejaculation , to do all that sort of stuff that we're going to get into in a little bit . So we're talking about the interpersonal sexual energy stuff now and we're going to get into the legit sex stuff too .

But what you're talking about is super , super important and it's interesting . When you look out on the internet and read different books and things , you'll see that when a lot of people are talking about sex transmutation , sexual energy transmutation , there's this flavor of shamefulness with desire . That's really interesting . I think it comes from puritanical culture .

It comes from . Whatever it comes from , it is what it is . Switching that up . I don't think desire is bad . I think desire is healthy , and so what I would say is that desire is something that should be celebrated . Desire isn't necessarily something we should follow and make happen , but that desire is life force moving within us .

If you experience desire , think of something you desire right now and you listening to when you really . It has to be something you really desire .

Exploring Sexual Energy and Transmutation

When you think about this , what happens for you ? Does anything happen for you and your body ?

Jon Handelman

Yeah , my whole body feels alive and yeah , there's energy , particularly in my heart and a little bit of my cock .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah .

Jon Handelman

What does it feel like ? I never thought of such a thing . Hold on , or like to describe it in more intense ways , a flood of energy there some heat , a tickle of some type ? Yeah , something like that . Colors . That's what I got for now , and without sharing what it is .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , without sharing what it is here , is there also , can you see in your life ? Is there like a pathway forward that you see , that's clear , for going towards this thing ? Yeah , yeah , Do you feel like ?

Jon Handelman

you're on that path ?

Taylor Johnson

Yeah Okay , yeah Cool . Is there also fear associated with it ?

Jon Handelman

Yeah , fear won't happen . Fear won't happen . Yeah , and that's in my stomach , mm-hmm .

Taylor Johnson

I'd say and is there any way that you might ? We'll just use the basic words like self-sabotage . Is there any way that you might choose some sort of instant gratification in your life somehow , in any way that might prevent this thing from happening Like short-term pleasure rewards ?

Jon Handelman

Yeah , I think there's a thought in my head that's like no , it's probably not going to happen , so just don't go for it . And just it's demotivating to go for this thing that I'm wanting and it didn't .

You know , it didn't occur to me until you said it to say like , hey , every time you have desire , I , I , I , maybe I'm rephrasing Every time you have desire , celebrate it . It's desire , it's life force . Yeah , like , first thing to do is acknowledge it , accept it and reframe it as a beautiful thing . That's happening .

And I was like , oh cool , because there's part of this desire I'm having that's I'm not framing it that way . Framing it is a bad thing and that's something I should get rid of . Yeah , mm-hmm .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , so that's . That's really nuanced and awesome . Thanks for bringing that up , mm-hmm . Yeah , and you said there's this part of you that thinks like , oh , it's not going to happen , none of that , I'll like push it away that sort of thing .

Yeah , if you were to push it away one day , even just temporarily , sounds like , if I'm hearing you correctly , like there would be some sort of relaxation that would happen with that Right and ease , maybe a letting go , like . I'm getting a visual of you , just like yeah , laying back on a couch Right .

Jon Handelman

This is like kind of defeated Totally , which meets certain needs Right , and it meets needs , I guess , for ease and takes like the pressure off , right , yeah , but it's not motivating , right , right it's . I feel like I didn't notice there's judgments coming in . I'm like , oh , you're just not going for what you want , yeah .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , but I think it's interesting . It's useful to acknowledge , like , what are the things that you would get by choosing the path that would lead to the instant gratification , versus the transmuting of that towards going after what you want Right , and being honest with yourself about that too ?

Jon Handelman

Yeah , I think it's like ease and I don't have to acknowledge like a failure . I can say like oh , I didn't go for it , but like I didn't go for it , so I can't not get it really Totally .

Taylor Johnson

Something like that , yeah , yeah , for sure Makes sense , I think the before we move on , just to recap and say it's useful to just bring awareness to all this stuff . And also , desire is not bad . Sexual desire is not bad . Sexual desire for somebody who you're not able to or allowed to have sex with because of whatever societal situations is not bad .

Just acknowledge it , celebrate it as life force , moving through , do something else intentional with it . Desire to look at porn isn't bad , it's life force . Do something else with it .

One other really interesting example that's also a form of sexual energy transmutation is if somebody say , for example , there's somebody who I find really attractive , they are available and I'm pursuing them regularly , but they're not reciprocating that interest .

This can be a huge energy suck for a lot of people and they think , oh , maybe if I'd make my life better , or maybe if I work out in this way , or maybe if I show them that I can do this thing or whatever like , they'll finally like me and it just sucks energy and sucks energy and it sucks sexual energy away from people .

So actually knowing when to say no to somebody who's not reciprocating interest and switching tactics or going to somebody else , that's also a form of this sex transmutation .

Jon Handelman

That makes sense . I can imagine or I can remember many times of spending a lot of energy towards someone who just wasn't interested and going like , oh , what am I doing with this energy ? Actually , Totally .

Taylor Johnson

All right . So I have actually a model that I worked out to get really practical with it , and then we'll get into the sex stuff in this . I'm going to put my laptop on my lap here , so I have it all in front of me . Pause me at any point if something doesn't make sense , okay .

Okay , so there's two different models that I came up with , and I think one day I might put these into some sort of visual thing , but for now , the first one is the reactive model , because the first one is basically like , as you're going around in your life , you will encounter people or certain things that you feel aroused by or that give you a sexual

stimulus . Like , say , you're at the grocery store , you see somebody that's really attractive , like whoa . Immediately , again , there is some sort of stimulation internally . How do you react to that ? Do you suppress it or do you integrate it , transmute it , that sort of thing .

The second one is the proactive model , and this is for somebody who's wanting to actually just build up and generate their sexual energy and then use that for whatever they want creative projects , business , entrepreneurial entrepreneurship , et cetera . So two kind of different pathways that end at a similar result . The first one , the reactive model .

Number one is the stimulus . The desire happens . So we'll use the grocery store example . Right For me , this is semi-common in Asheville .

Harnessing Sexual Energy for Positive Creativity

A lot of beautiful women here .

Jon Handelman

A lot of beautiful women here .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , I'm not gonna have sex with them . That's the way it is . That's the way it is . It's great . I don't want to . Well , part of me , I'll acknowledge , part of me wants to , but another part of me knows and that that's a horrible idea and I don't actually wanna do that .

But I acknowledge the part of me that wants to have sex with beautiful people and I celebrate that and that's life and that feels fun .

So I see this person right and instead of getting hooked by that which happens to some guys and they think like , ooh , I'm gonna fantasize about fucking her , I'm gonna like go masturbate , I'm gonna see if I can go to the bathroom and rub one out real quick All this kind of stuff like happens to guys and it hooks them .

Instead of that , I'm gonna immediately , once I see this person and notice a reaction to my body , I'm gonna bring awareness to my body , kind of like we just did , because there is always some sort of physiological , sensation-oriented thing that happens when the sexual desire comes up .

Learning to pay attention to that is super empowering and can help switch things up . Like they say , freedom is it comes in the moment between stimulus and response , right .

Jon Handelman

So freedom comes in the moment between stimulus and response .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , I didn't come up with that saying , we've all heard it , but it's a great one , right ? So how does that moment get expanded ? Awareness , Right , okay , Mindfulness , you know . So I'm aware of this . Usually there's in this grocery store example . There's a sensation in my heart and my belly , usually my genitals as well . Usually my mind becomes active too .

It's oftentimes a full body sort of thing . And then there's a decision point too . The decision point is like am I going to follow this into the fantasy realm or am I going to just notice this woman and breathe with it ?

And so , in this example , to transmute it , I'll just take a breath , Hmm , and keep moving , Like I don't have to close my eyes or do that . I can do that while I'm walking . I take a breath . Couple of other things I do .

I squeeze my pelvic floor , because the pelvic floor longer story , but I basically do a kegel , Because a lot of traditions see that as a pump , a sexual energy pump , where you can use it to pump arousal or energy up throughout your entire body , either up through your we'll use some esoteric terms either through your chakras or through your microcosmic orbit , or

even if you don't want to use any of those terms . You can just imagine that it's a pump moving your sexual energy up into the rest of your body , into your heart and your head , Right . So I squeeze my pelvic floor and I've also done a lot of work with this thing called the microcosmic orbit .

I'll put a graphic on screen just so you can kind of see it . It comes from the Taoist lineage and it's basically it's just an orbit that goes around your body that you can move sexual energy through . So I do that , I take a breath in , I do an orbit , and then I'm good , I'm good to go .

It's not a very strong stimulus , so it doesn't take me very long to work with it , but I do and I harness that and then I smile , go around my day and like , after that moment I just feel better Because I'm like I'm receiving stimulation from the experience , right , and I'm turning it into useful life stimulation internally that I don't necessarily even have to

do anything with , I can just enjoy that too . It's like a sizzle , you know , or teaming with energy or that sort of thing , and then whatever I go into next will be infused with and fueled by that energy . That's in my system , right . So maybe I run into somebody else in the grocery store that I know or don't know so well .

But then I have a conversation with them and I feel a little bit ex-cessed full , because I took that moment to integrate that sexual arousal , that sexual response . And then I have a better conversation with them . That leads to some door opening I never could have imagined . And then something else happens .

And then all of a sudden , that pinpoint moment when I made a choice to transmute that energy opens up so many doors into the future that I never kind of imagined .

Jon Handelman

So you're using it to give yourself a boost . In what you're saying is hey , I noticed that boost after that moment you use it . I take that energy , I pump myself up and then when I'm talking to other people I notice it's there . There's a type of life that I'm bringing to that conversation that's led to other opportunities .

Is that what you're saying Totally ?

Taylor Johnson

yeah . So number one is the stimulus , number two is the awareness of the stimulus , number three is the decision point and number four is the integration , and so my integration is the breath , the kegel and the microcosmic orbit in this particular scenario . And then number five is positive discharge or positive creation .

Right , and so for me , the positive creation would be walking around in the store feeling great and we're having a conversation from that point .

Or maybe another thing that I like to do is just have my phone notes app open sometimes and I'll just have moments of inspiration that hit me out of the blue and I'll take a little note like ooh , make a video about this , make a podcast about this .

And I notice , when I'm interacting with my sexual energy in an intentional way and building it in these scenarios , inspiration comes so much more easily . That's a huge thing . That's a huge reason . A lot of guys practice semen retention , which we'll talk about . A lot of guys do the nofap thing .

Whenever anybody says semen retention or nofap , they're really talking about sexual energy transmutation . Right and back from the book with Napoleon Hill and Think and Grow Rich , his whole chapter . He says sex transmutation will elevate people to the level of genius . And how does that actually happen ? It's through creative , inspirational energy .

Right , if you're sexually depleted , you can still do manual labor , you can still shovel things , bang things with a hammer . But that edge of extra inspiration and stimulation and thought and ingenuity and inventiveness like that's not so much there . That comes through sexual integration , sexual transmutation .

Jon Handelman

Okay , cool , it's that extra . It just levels you up a little bit Totally and if you do it intentionally , you're saying , hey , the ideas that you're gonna have are gonna have a clear channel to come through . Absolutely , is that right ? Yeah , that's super interesting , yeah more clear , more clear .

Taylor Johnson

So and then when I say positive discharge there , that'll make sense with a different example . But say , for example , the stimulation was so intense that even when I'm practicing transmutation I can't quite do it all .

Jon Handelman

Right , you're still there .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , so that's when things like jumping jacks come in or pushups or doing something in the body to release the extra charge . It's very hard to do that just by sitting . Still , you can do it over time , but it's much easier just to do something in your body .

Jon Handelman

And you're saying that , as opposed to like rubbing one out , which would deplete your energy , you're saying , hey , pushups will fuel that inspiration , it won't deplete you . Yeah , yeah , okay . How come In the ?

Taylor Johnson

same way . It's a good question . So using the term depleting of energy can be tricky for a lot of people . So I'll just say , in this particular context instead of rubbing one out , well , let's talk about what that means . You rub one out , you masturbate , you have an ejaculation . Usually it's within a couple of minutes .

If you're rubbing one out , you're not getting into the experience of pleasure , you're not really allowing that to take over your nervous system and shift your brain and cognition and physiology into this other state . You just do relief using it as a drug .

When you do that , you're telling your nervous system , your physiology , your body and your brain oh , I have just achieved my peak goal as a human , as a creature , as a being to procreate . Now you can show the fuck out and take a nap . Now you don't have to accomplish anything . You just won , you just perpetuated a species .

You don't need to go out and be motivated , you don't need to be creative . Eat some food , take a rest , chill out . This is the refractory period , and it usually , for guys , lasts much longer than the five to 20 minutes that we normally think of . There are subtle layers of that that last for days for most guys .

So when we , instead of winning , choosing the easy reward of ejaculation , we delay that gratification and harness that stimulation to do something else , intentional . That's life giving Okay cool , I got it .

Jon Handelman

Yeah , yeah , that makes sense .

Taylor Johnson

I'll outline these in the show notes as well . And number six , after the positive discharge or positive creative action , is just bow to yourself , thank yourself for doing that and then go about your life .

Jon Handelman

Which is something you probably don't do after you ejaculate Most people . You're just too depleted and everyone just conks out . But in this way you can kind of acknowledge the efforts you're taking . That's probably going to give you some type of fuel . Yeah , that's nice , yeah .

Taylor Johnson

Totally .

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So if you want to check those out , there are links in the episode description and , with all that being said , thank you again . Let's get back to today's episode . So let's do an example around sex , sure , yeah , and then after that we'll go into the proactive model . So I was sexual with my partner a few days ago in this very room .

Actually , congrats Right over there .

Jon Handelman

Hey .

Taylor Johnson

This is a hybrid bedroom and studio and I did not ejaculate for the first I'd say hour and a half hour and 45 minutes , something like that . We had an extended sexual session . It's really beautiful . We prioritized exploration , we prioritized taking our time and just being really in the experience .

Interestingly , right around the 30 minute mark I was super aroused and we were in this really sexy position and she asked me , like do you want to come ? Do you want to ejaculate ? And I could tell like there's this animalistic part of me that was like fuck , yeah , I do .

Like right here , like right now , like that would be so good , you know , and I considered it and in my previous days , even just her asking me if I wanted to come would push me over the edge because it would be so sexy , right . But now I have that awareness . It's the freedom in between stimulus and response .

So I'm like , cool , you just aroused me a lot more , where I feel a lot more aroused by you . But I'm actually going to pause and feel into this Okay , that would feel good . I'm not aware of how , you know that would reward me , right . But I'm also paying attention to what are my deeper desires here .

My deeper desires are to have an extended love making experience with my partner , where we really get to be in it together for an extended period of time .

And I know that if I ejaculate , sure I can like take a little bit of time and get back into it , but my presence is going to drop , my arousal is going to drop , all this stuff is going to drop and I'm not going to be consistently there for the experience .

So instead I chose to transmute that desire and we switched positions and I did some breathing , squeezed my pelvic floor , did some more of the microcosmic orbit , and we continued kissing and being sexual during this time . But I needed to take a pause from direct stimulation so I could actually breathe and do this stuff , because it was so intense at that moment .

By the way , pausing is fine , pausing is great . So I did that and then we continued to be sexual For like another hour plus and in that time it was the most magical connection . It was beautiful . In the time after I decided not to ejaculate but instead to transmute that desire to ejaculate into an extended , beautiful presence , filled sexual experience .

That's when the multiple orgasms happened . That's when this amazing , deep , powerful , profound connection and just like the art of love making . The art of love making happened Prior to that . I was in the sort of like I wouldn't quite say the fucking mindset , but the sort of like ejaculatory focused sex mindset which is like somewhat goal oriented .

Even though I know about that , I still get into that . But it took that conscious decision point to integrate that into the rest of my body and then just let that sizzle and just be without arousal after that and then that was a really beautiful , rewarding experience that brought us much closer together and made our week amazing .

It really seeded our week with goodness and I did eventually choose to ejaculate , but at that point it had been so long and I had done so much integration . I didn't feel a big depletion afterwards and it had been such a long time since my previous ejaculation that it just felt great .

Jon Handelman

It sounds like , though , a helpful aspect , which is similar to what you're saying before , is this intention beforehand to say like hey , when I see this person in the grocery store or when I'm going to make love , I'm not going for the quick fix , I'm going for this long-term gain . Totally Right , cool .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah . So part of the model after this section is to go into those sorts of things to kind of prep all this . It's kind of useful to think about the model first . I think We'll see . This is kind of an experiment talking it out right now , but that's a very important part , is the why , and we're going to get into that .

So then after sex , after being sexual , we did just sort of lay there and enjoy the sizzling of energy in our systems and there was a bowing and there was a thanking . It was really beautiful . We didn't actually do this to each other , if you're listening .

I bowed and put my hands together and that sort of thing , but we energetically bowed and we said thank you and just sat in that gratitude and it was beautiful . Then we moved on . Life is good , right ? So that is the reactive model .

You're reacting to a stimulus , whether it's somebody at the grocery store , the desire to watch porn , the desire to ejaculate , whatever it is Like . This thing comes in from out of the blue . You deal with it intentionally . You use that as fuel to go about your life . Right ?

The proactive model is to intentionally make a decision to build your sexual arousal for the sake of building your sexual energy and not letting that go through an ejaculatory orgasm , but then harnessing that .

Jon Handelman

It's saying at the start I'm going to turn myself on to build energy specifically to make my dreams come true . Yeah , Is that right ? Totally Okay .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , this kind of like fucks with a lot of people's brains . It definitely fucked with my younger brain . If somebody said you can have sex and not ejaculate and feel great , I would be like fuck you , no way , You're crazy . And then I read all these books on the topic and started to experiment with it and turns out it's actually true .

But my younger self I just want to acknowledge and if you're listening to this and you feel like that , like I get it , Like I was there too but I will say it's possible to have sexual experiences and not ejaculate and feel amazing . So number one is make a decision to build the sexual energy .

Number two is to commit to yourself to build it without ejaculatory release . Number three you can build it with masturbation or sex or fantasy . You know you could actually intentionally do this just with a fantasy if you wanted to , and this is almost taking it to the realms of meditation , Right .

Just go into the fantasy and think about something super erotic and you'll notice that the body starts to get impacted . There's some sort of sensation that happens , and then you can breathe with that and circulate that and not get caught up and swept up in the fantasy , but work with that and bring it into your body and then go about your day .

Net positive gain Right , so you can masturbate . Sex flirtation even Flirtation is an interesting one , but it's nuanced . But I figured I would talk about it too . Have you ever had a flirtatious interaction with somebody that felt like you were fueled up from it ?

Jon Handelman

afterwards Totally , yeah , definitely .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , but you weren't using them for that experience , right , it just kind of happened . Yeah , there's a dance there . It's like a subconsciously societally agreed upon dance that we're doing of sexual energy without being sexual , right , we don't acknowledge it , right , but it's there , but there's a life force giving thing that can happen from that too .

Harnessing Sexual Energy

So say I'm at a party or say you're at a party and you're like you know what , I kind of want to feel a little aroused , like I think I'm going to go flirt with some people , and it's again .

It's super fucking nuanced and tricky , because here we're talking about playing with sexual energy , right , and there's a lot of like weird leaky boundaries that can happen in sort of conscious community places where this could go very wrong and it could feel like you're taking from somebody . And that's not what I'm saying here .

I'm saying don't go take from somebody , say go out , and if there is somebody you feel like flirting with , like great , go for it , notice the impact on your body and integrate that without needing anything from them . Super , be super clear , like you don't need anything from anybody , you're just in this dance .

And if they don't want to flirt , like go and go somewhere else , you know that's great , and then move about your life .

Jon Handelman

Hmm .

Taylor Johnson

Interesting Right , this is not something I do regularly . I have played with it a couple times and I just kind of put it in here because it's like the nerdy , geek part of me is like this also technically works . You know , my main way of doing this is masturbation without ejaculation . That's something I do a lot of .

Jon Handelman

It's a fun idea for me to go up to someone and say , hey , do you want to build some sexual energy between us and then use it to make our dreams come true .

Taylor Johnson

Totally . That is totally different , though , for me , from just flirting Right , like I assume you wouldn't just go up to somebody random and be like hey , you want to build some sexual energy with me Not someone random , that's for sure . Yeah , you don't . That's not what we're saying , in fact .

Jon Handelman

I've never done the former , which is go up to even like a friend or someone I was attracted to , to even bring up this concept . But as we're talking about it , it's an . It's kind of inspiring to me to go like , oh , you can build your sexual energy and then aim it towards something Right .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , but I'm not just to clarify , I'm not saying to aim it at a person .

Jon Handelman

Yeah , right .

Taylor Johnson

Then like , then go about your life and put that into whatever it is that you want to do . Maybe it's a creative project , or playing music , or dancing , or building your business , whatever that sort of thing , yeah . Yeah , makes sense , totally Cool . So for this next example , like I masturbate 20 minutes , I don't ejaculate .

I do different sorts of exercises to integrate my sexual arousal , so I don't get blue balls , because that would be stagnation , that'd be sort of pushing it down .

Jon Handelman

Right , there'd be some repression . That's the other end of the spectrum , right ? So you're acknowledging all these sensations that you just built up Totally , rather than say like , okay , I'm just going to pretend they're not ?

Taylor Johnson

there and just go about my day yeah , merging them through my body , feeling great , and then I go and do whatever it is I want to do . That is a net positive If I've done it correctly . If I get blue balls , that's a very clear sign that I haven't done enough . Sexual integration .

Okay , and now I want to show what I would call the sexual energy integration exercise . It's very simple . Okay , I'll put a graphic up on camera and I'll just . Well , I stand up . No , I'll put a graphic up on camera and I'll just describe it , because I have other videos of me doing this .

But whenever I have master , whenever I have masturbate , whenever I have masturbate , whenever I masturbate and I don't ejaculate , or sometimes when I have sex and I don't want to ejaculate , and just almost every day anyway , I'll do this . I stand , I take both of my hands this is the exercise .

I place them , cup them around my testicles , with a little bit of pressure , I squeeze my pelvic floor and I breathe a deep inhale while drawing my hands up to my chest , and then I'll release my pelvic floor and then release my hands and do a little shake like that , and when I'm squeezing my hands and pelvic floor up my body , running them up to my heart

and breathing in . I'm also visualizing some sort of energy moving up . Maybe it's an energy ball , maybe it's sexual energy , maybe it's orange , maybe it's red and maybe whatever the color it is , I'm also using the power of visualization to affect sexual energy . So do that 10 times . I guarantee you will feel different .

Jon Handelman

It's amazing what that can do .

Taylor Johnson

And so the breathing in , you're accomplishing two things the shake is the discharge and the breathing in is the integration piece that accomplishes both of those . So if you're having sex and you don't want to ejaculate and you're feeling the urge to ejaculate , you can actually say hey , baby , I want to pause for a moment and do this thing .

It might look really weird , but it'll help me keep having sex with you for longer . Ultimately , it will be more pleasure for both of us . Okay , cool , I've done that with lovers before and with the right communication upfront , they super appreciate it .

Jon Handelman

Getting to maybe bring up before you have sex , Totally yeah totally , or you can do it skillfully .

Taylor Johnson

If you haven't talked about it beforehand , you just have to own it . Own that this is what you're doing , this is your desire and ultimately it's because you want to have a deeper , more pleasurable , connected experience with them and express that with words .

Jon Handelman

So you're saying you consciously masturbate in an attempt to generate sexual energy , to use this inspiration towards your nonsexual dreams ?

Taylor Johnson

I have done that . I'm not saying I do that regularly , but I'm saying it's an avenue of doing it . What I do do is masturbate regularly without ejaculating , and I harness that energy and integrate it into my body and then do whatever . I don't always think about whatever it is that I'm wanting to do . A lot of times I do that at the end of the day .

It's a nice relaxation practice for me and I'll breathe and I'll go into this sort of meditative space and then just feel that and then I can relax into it and I feel charged up , but not in a way that prevents me from sleeping .

It's just sort of like it's like drinking a glass of water when you need one and you have it in a while , except with some sexual arousal mixed in there . That's the best way I can describe it . Wow , yeah , so not everyone's cup of tea , but for me it really works and I feel like I'm pretty stoked about what I've accomplished in life so far .

Jon Handelman

And you're like hey , part of that is because I'm using this sexual energy in that direction .

Taylor Johnson

Oh , 100% . Yeah , I mean there's a previous podcast you can listen to about how specifically this practice helped me make more money in my previous business before I even started teaching about sex stuff . So like it's very concrete in my experience 100% .

So Sexual breath work , microcosmic orbit , sexual energy integration , exercise , moving your whole body like all this stuff you can do during sex with another person to integrate , to transmute this desire to ejaculate into embodied , aroused energy that you can then use to go about and do whatever you want .

Again , remember the first time I did this I felt like I got the gold star in Super Moria Brothers . It was amazing , right . I had sex with my partner at the time and I didn't ejaculate intentionally . I did these practices and then I went out and I went to the grocery store and I was like , oh my God this is what they're talking about .

Jon Handelman

Right , that's so good . Okay , yeah , cool , it sounds like something definitely worth trying .

Taylor Johnson

Totally .

Jon Handelman

And something that requires a lot of commitment beforehand and a lot of discipline . For sure , yeah , and I'm guessing it took you a lot of discipline and I'm guessing , throughout your journey with it , you blew your load a couple of times . Oh , totally Right , as you're looking towards that . Maybe , two or three .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , right , right , yeah . It's definitely something that takes practice . I mean , this is why I teach what I teach now . I teach this stuff because there weren't any good resources for it when I was younger and I want to help guys realize like , hey , you can do this too in a much shorter amount of time than it took me .

Right , get this guide , get this free guide . There's tons of resources in the description of this episode . So that's the sex piece , the intentional building model , the proactive model . Just one quick note if you're going to have sex with somebody and intentionally not ejaculate , the question comes up like well , how do you know when sex is done ?

All genders ask this question if they're having sex with a man , because like sex is usually over when the man ejaculates Right , right , you know . So my favorite way to end sex with a partner if I'm not ejaculating is to get into what's called a yob yom position , basically like if you're the penetrating person .

Your partner is sitting on top of you , facing each other , with your legs wrapped around each other . I'll put a graphic on screen right now and you hold each other , you look into each other's eyes , heart to heart , and I'll take 10 to 15 or 20 breaths there , slow breaths , together with the intention of integration .

You know , either spoken to or understood with my partner . It's understood now because we've had sex so many times like this . But either spoken to or just happens . We do that and then we're good . We're good , okay , so I'm going to do my pelvic floor .

Maybe afterwards I'll like give myself a tistic there , massage or pelvic massage to help move that energy in that area . But it brings closure to the experience for both of us .

Jon Handelman

It's nice to give sex an intentionally heart opening close , as opposed to the standard . Come and sleep . Yeah , you know Totally .

Taylor Johnson

Totally Cool . Coming and sleep is still great , right I ?

Jon Handelman

think it's coming and sleeping yeah . Not trying to bash them .

Taylor Johnson

We do that with intention and not on autopilot , it becomes so much better , so much more pleasurable and connective for everybody . So I think we covered some really good ground here . Yeah , I learned a couple of things . There's two more things that I want to go into . There's the question of it's , like you know , conservation versus cultivation .

Right , this is part of the whole semen retention or nofap thing . Sex transmutation Right , we have a certain amount of sexual energy . If I were to masturbate and ejaculate right now , I would feel like I have less charge , you know . So I'm not doing that . Here we are having this conversation .

So , technically , right now I'm conserving my energy , I'm conserving my arousal , conserving my wakefulness , my attention , my presence , et cetera . Right , by not doing that thing . The other side of that coin is the cultivation .

So I'm also not doing something right now that builds my arousal , but I could later on , and that would be the building so I talked about . There's the sex , there's the masturbation , there's the fantasy , there's the flirtation . Those are things that can build sexual energy .

But the other side of that , too , how to build sexual energy is just living a lifestyle of good health , right , like a lot of guys will think , like , oh , if I just have sex without ejaculating or if I just do semen retention or nofap or whatever , then I'll have all the sexual energy , I'll feel great .

But that's not how it works Because , like , meanwhile they're eating shit food , they're not working out , they're not exercising , they're not having good community connections , and then they wonder why they're not feeling aroused . So I just like to put that in there , because that piece is crucially , crucially important as well . That builds sexual arousal over time .

It's not the sort of thing where you go to the gym , you lift some weights and you feel aroused , but if you do that for a couple of weeks , then your spontaneous arousal on the third week is going to be much stronger than if you hadn't done that . Does that make sense Totally .

Jon Handelman

I think it's a long-term gain when you're talking about it , right yeah , and saying , hey , what you eat and how you move , all that matters about your sex life , all that matters about your energy , and pay attention to it , because if you're doing these things in isolation and you're part of a connected system , it's not going to be as effective .

Taylor Johnson

Totally

Increasing Capacity for Sexual Energy Transmutation

so . The last piece to close this out is and this is potentially the most important piece of all of it is how do you increase the size of your container for holding sexual energy ? And what do I mean by that ? I mean that people have different thresholds .

When I talked about having sex earlier I'll put this over here when I mentioned that , my partner said do you want to come now ? And when I mentioned in my previous like 10 years ago , that would have pushed me over the edge , right , I had a much smaller capacity , much smaller container . It's a whole sexual arousal at that point .

So any sort of sexual stimulation like that , it would have pushed me over the edge . But I have since increased my capacity , or you could call it my container to hold more .

Jon Handelman

Therefore , it's much more difficult to push me over the edge because it's bigger , like my reservoir is just larger if that makes sense yeah right , so you've learned to grow this capacity , and I'm guessing you're going to give us a tip on how to grow this capacity , or how does one start growing a capacity like this ?

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , I mean doing some of the practices I talked about here .

I will say also learning how to masturbate for an extended period of time minimum of 20 minutes at a time before you ejaculate and even without ejaculating is one of the best ways you can do this , because then your system 20 minutes is long enough that your system realizes after minute nine or 10 that ejaculation isn't the immediate goal .

Then you can sort of relax into the experience a little bit more and then , if you edge , bring yourself to the edge and come back for some of that , you can start to build familiarity with the ejaculatory response and you can come back into this deeper , relaxed reservoir that over time will build your capacity .

And I have a whole free ejaculation control guide that I definitely recommend checking out . It's in the description of this that will give you a bunch of tips . Probably not . No tips but tips and techniques to really optimize that .

But perhaps the most important one out of all the things we'll circle back around to that question that you talked about a while ago is the why Coming up with a personal mission statement .

A mission statement or a really clear vision for the life that you want or for the desires that you want to have come to fruition and become clear on why you would want to transmit your sexual energy in the first place . That is so profoundly important and will be impactful to this whole thing . If you don't have that , what's your motivation going to be ?

To not ejaculate to porn ?

When you get that stimulus Not going to have that strong of a one , but if your life vision or your mission statement is something to the effect of I want to create the most amazing business I possibly can so that I can feel more alive and so that I can support my family and so that I can support my friends or do whatever it is to have a better world ,

that is going to be my anchor , that's going to be my guiding light , and so it's going to become the metric that I can measure all my different decisions against when the stimulus comes up , if I get the urge to look at dating apps . I could go on there and swipe for hours .

Those things are designed by the same people who designed social media to hook us and keep us there for a long time . So that's a form of sexual energy transmutation . No , I don't want to go on dating apps , I'm just going to . Oh yeah , here are the things that are important to me in life .

I'm going to go work on this project because this creates the world that I want to see that sort of a thing .

Exploring Desires and Transmuting Energy

So some questions to ask yourself what's really important to you ? What do you care about ? You don't have to answer this on the podcast , but that desire that you have have you ever actually took some time with it and journaled about it ?

Jon Handelman

Not in terms of that type of . I hadn't thought of to take attraction in that way and in this direction , but it's a super interesting concept to me .

Taylor Johnson

I'm excited to play with it , Just to sit with it and cultivate it and become attuned to it and familiar with it and make friends with it To the point of like , okay , this is what I want . Cool , I own that . That feels really sweet . Now , as I go forward in my life , everything I do is going to be oriented towards this .

I'm not going to get distracted by all the bullshit that would take me away from doing this thing that's really important to me . That's what taking a little time with the desires can help to do . Cool , how's that sound ?

Jon Handelman

Yeah , I think it's a good Christmas gift for everyone you know , to take their desires and make their dreams realities , and using the energy inside of them , cultivating it , growing it and then using it to make happen what they want to happen . I think it's a beautiful offering . Yeah , thanks for sharing all this stuff .

Taylor Johnson

Yeah , thanks for the questions , thanks for being here for the conversation . I realized there's one other piece I want to just add at the end is like we're all the different methods that you could use to transmute sexual energy . We talked about some of them here , but some of the other ones are dance , like playing music , going out and socializing .

Working out , going for a walk in nature , going to just lay down in nature , meditating , meditating on the desire itself internally can be a really profound thing to do , just meditating on those sensations that you felt .

If you took 20 minutes and just sat with those sensations and observed them I'm not saying you should do this all the time , but for the sake of growth and experimentation over those 20 minutes you would experience something pretty profound .

Those sensations would have expanded and integrated into your body just through the practice of putting awareness on them over time . Just the biggest thing here is you can do anything with intention after the moment of awareness and decision to transmute your energy , and that can be an act of transmutation if it's done with intention .

Jon Handelman

It's good food for thought . Yeah , yeah .

Taylor Johnson

So what are you going to do ?

Jon Handelman

tonight I tell you what I definitely am going to take out a journal . I think it's a great idea , yeah , especially as we're approaching the start of a new year , I know that it's a great time to lock in your head the beginnings of things and ends of things . People lock into a little more and to go , oh , what are my intentions this year ?

And then maybe make a little list and say , hey , when I'm feeling those certain desires , certain desires , which desires would I like to transmute towards this direction ? Yeah , thanks for the inspiration to start thinking of things in that way , totally , yeah .

Taylor Johnson

Thanks for your questions , for sure , and thank you for listening and watching on YouTube . If you have any questions about any of this stuff , please leave a comment on YouTube specifically . That's the best place for me . It's the easiest place to keep the whole conversation in one point and I'll get back to you .

I'm totally stoked about this conversation and this topic and it was kind of an experiment to do this in podcast setup versus , like me , sharing a long personal story or something like that , but I think it worked out pretty well and , yeah , I feel stoked about it . So let me know if you have any questions and I'll see you next time . Thanks so much , john .

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