Ep 270: David Shedd on China’s Spies
Jan 30, 2026•1 hr 3 min
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Episode description
David Shedd, former Acting Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and author of The Great Heist: China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets, joins the show to discuss Chinese spy craft.
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02:05 Early days
06:49 CIA
09:28 Sandinistas and revolutionaries
15:14 IC preparation
18:35 A great awakening
26:11 Industrial espionage
30:50 National Intelligence Estimate
34:11 The MSS
44:19 The culture of the 18th Bureau
50:17 Battlefield consequences
55:20 Counterarguments
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