Ep. 18: Bruce Jones on Seapower

Bruce Jones, director of the Project on International Order and Strategy of the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, joins the show to discuss seapower. 

Times

• 00:51 - Introduction 
• 01:17 - The importance of seapower today
• 06:45 - Innovation of container shipping and how that changed the global economy 
• 12:50 - China re-enters the seas 
• 16:54 - China’s security challenges at sea
• 22:44 - Shallow seas, narrow passages, and massive ships 
• 24:06 - China’s strategic interest in Taiwan  
• 26:10 - China’s alienation of potential allies  
• 29:08 - American strategic view of the Pacific Ocean
• 34:41 - Relations between the United States and India, specifically in terms of taking on China 
• 39:12 - Seapower theorist Alfred Thayer Mahan
• 44:55 - Comparing America’s quest for power at sea during the 20th century and China’s return to the sea today 
• 48:48 - The role of oceanography in nation-state power competition