How the episode of Saved & Such, Man is your boy, Rie. How you doing this Joe from the 9th? Still Cliff. I thought it was just Cliff. Still Cliff, Jess Cliff. Same thing. More, sorry. Oh my God. You got Ray Ray on the couch. She's been gone for a little weeks. Quick update. How was the trip to Jamaica? Jamaica was amazing. And yeah, I had a good time. I'm some burnt.
I'm sorry. I'm your complexion now. I thought you were going to Cliff. Yeah, is that a problem? I'm just first of all. I'm just a flexion now. And I'm also some burnt in my face head to peel. Okay. I just wanted to ask you because like you told us a week in advance when you was going but you never said, hey guys, this course of podcast. I don't like to go. What? Go into podcast. This is the girl's trip. Let's start there.
Krista was invited. I'm gonna get her to anyway guys. We're talking about healing open wounds. And while we're on the topic, it sounds like you. But yeah, we're talking about healing wounds. And I'm running a questions that we have is how can unhilled wounds affect your growth spiritually, mentally and emotionally? Oh, are you asking us? Yeah, you said it like you were like, yeah, I just asked the question one more time. Let's pretend like you didn't do the first time.
How can unhilled wounds affect your growth spiritually, emotionally and mentally? For me, I think unhilled wounds can take from your gifts, your spiritual gifts, and mentally, emotionally, it can cause a long lasting trauma if they're not attended to just like any other wound. It can manifest into another wound and it can spread infection whether that's spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically, financially. So yeah, that's my answer.
You realize how everything in the body is just like how everything is spiritually, if that makes any sense to you. So like you have wounds, the wounds heal into scars and the scars. You look at those scars and be like, I remember that. What you brought me from sort of like that, the body, listen, everything that God has made on this earth, like within your body, within nature, like it speaks to how he moves, we move spiritually as well. So that's you better be a fast, I'm a persistent pastor.
I'm a Protestant to a real world scenario. A lot of times we may look at a situation in the flesh and just and just look at a one baby when you tap in spiritually, you understand why things are happening. For instance, like as a man, you know what I mean, say as a man, you know, you go around and you see what different women can happen at the same time.
I mean, just mess with much women at the same time. But like people don't really know that you're hurting because of some past trauma that you've had. Maybe your mother died, maybe you really liked the girl that left you and you never quite got over that. Sit again. What did you say? And the sixth grade. Right. No, that's where it starts. But stuff like that happens. We're like, we don't really like.
It's unhared wound. You feel like we it's just open. We never really like went back to heal it properly. You're trying to heal it the wrong way. It's like you're putting, um, supposed to put like what, um, peroxide on your wounds, stuff like that. Neal spore and stuff like that. But you put in dirt on it. In fact, any even more. I think unhared wounds is like cancer. Oh, yeah.
And that's the hardest topic for a lot of people. But cancer spreads so fast and it may have been in your leg and you've been treating the chemo. You know, in your leg and then all of a sudden it spreads to, you know, another party about it. And then you got you have it there. And that's kind of how it is with trauma. Like the root of the issue is the cancer in that one part. But it spreads so many other parts of your body. And then you have to be treated in several different areas.
If you know, and so trauma like like reset, you, it may be from one thing. And now you didn't add a dish on top of that. So you might have, um, let's say a parent died. So you grieving that the trauma is the loss of your parent. And then you start sleeping around. Now you end, you know, things like that. Spirits on top of that. You start in the do drugs and then the drugs is a whole another thing that you and we've drawn as a whole another set of trauma.
And now, you know, you can't maintain functionalist shifts. And now that's a different trauma. So it's, you just add trauma on type of trauma. And so it affects you because if you never get to the root of the problem, all you're going to do is keep adding to it. And you're going to keep going in circles. And that's how those generational curses stay generational and continue through generations. That's how cycles remain. And you don't break those cycles.
So, so for y'all, like, what's the, what's the first step to healing a wound? That's like, you know, can we do like physically and then like spiritually like spiritual wounds like spiritual, especially I would say realizing that it is a wound. I got a fact that there is something there realizing I'm not okay in this area. And physically going to get treatment. Yeah, I agree. I think, I think, I think it's the same for both, especially in physically.
I would say the first thing like he said is the real as it is on a lot of times we got some stuff going on. We want, we don't want to admit it's happening or it made came from something. Why are you laughing? And then I would say like a close runner up is like, then I forgot. He not, you know, my first one might. All right. Thanks, Marek. I think it's both saying the first to me for me, my first two steps is identifying the problem and accepting that it is a problem.
Right. And I think that's both spiritually and physically. Because I think they're both important because without identification and acceptance, then comes the denial. And just like in Marais elaborate example, look how fast that snow ball. I meant that I meant it on purpose. I said a laverant because it started off as this little small thing. And then it blew up and snowballed into this giant snow hill of trauma. So I definitely think that's my first two.
And with that, like you can't just even to the snowball, like you dealing with something from your childhood and now you wonder why your kids are bad and doing the same thing you was normally when I've introduced that. So you think so even physically and spiritually those things get those spirits get passed down. And so when you don't kill them. Now that's your kids problem. And I think it's very important like this all like you said like ties into like generational curses.
Yeah. I think it's important when you do have generational curses and you identify them to ask your family members what happened. What you know what I mean? Get to the root of the problem. Where did it start to know how to cut it off? You know what I mean? Because the same thing you're in. You and your ancestors carry the same kind of pattern. And once you realize that pattern, it's going to be the same thing that's affecting you might have been alcohol. Well, let me stay away from this bar.
My family member why don't want to the same bar like 50 or something years ago. So now that I know that I'm going to stop going to that bar or something like that just in the sense. Can I touch on this this very example use the bar. It's an example of something that somebody constantly went to. So you go in the bar, right? Let me tell you how it starts. You go in the bar. Somebody says ain't you so and so son. Next thing you know they're telling stories about your family member.
Next thing you know you're drinking at the bar and sitting that listening to all these stories. When you found a place to have you this like oh I went in there. You're back in your mind. I had a good time in there. So now your good times turned to a every day time. And your every day times turns to an alcohol problem. And then that turns back into your family member and your back in the same position they was in. Same way they got there. It's how you got it. And it's crazy how that works.
Like we were saying off camera I would always say that's the devil attack you where you weak at. Yeah. And if it can use something that can be perceived as a good time. As a way to get in. He's going to get in. And as crazy as you said that I was reading about Jesus the other day. And I was watching this sermon and. When Jesus wanted to the wilderness and. He was fast and 30 days and 30 nights. And I was like the first thing that the devil tried to tempt him was what food.
I'm saying so it's like he studies you. The devil. He studies and he knows where your weakness is like you said so facts just being aware of where you're vulnerable at is also key. Yeah. And it's on say um by Jonathan Reynolds. The devil learns from your mistakes even if you don't. So you may have been like oh I didn't get it at that time but that was all yeah. I know how to get her now I know if I can't go this way. I got to go this way if it's not this boy is going to be that boy.
She ain't for that drink. I'm a center that drink so he taking notes. And he also like you say he knows exactly where you weak at. And that's why you have to really submit yourself to God and resist the devil and heal. Hopefully that's why. Can I be honest when it comes to all of this first I feel like you got to have a discernment. As far as who to open up to as well. Yes. Oh my gosh. I think you can't just go around telling like your mom's right.
You can't go around telling us anybody anything. Because you know everybody is not equipped. Everybody's not equipped to handle it and everybody. You know somebody like Kylår said Det au hat is just you know they just contra matter. Wait, kay. He recognizes you. Why he's just don't care right? And not even that they're a there are people the devil literally use people to for his purpose. Kyl Storm destroy you all hit telling the good news and telling all it stuff good stuff about yourself.
To smell of you think love you think supported whole time. That's cash. That's real. Instead the first sip. That's the first sip. Nah, that's, she was trying to get, what, asking where does this drink for? Mm-hmm, can't ask any, can't ask any. You know what I mean? So things like that, man, you just gotta recognize, I'm big on discernment. I tell anybody, when you, when you get in this walk, man, you gotta be big on discernment. You can't just hang with anybody.
Most importantly, you can't just go anywhere. Mm-hmm. Cause you'll go somewhere and you think people's with you. You really buy yourself. So do you think, I got a question. Do you think that in order to move forward, you gotta rehash the past? Like a lot of people would be like, you don't gotta go back and rehash that, I just move forward, what y'all think?
When you mean like rehash, I'm kinda thinking like, I'm reflecting on why that happened and thinking about how I prevent that from happening. I think that sort of like a rehash, but not like a, I'm gonna keep thinking about it and it's gonna keep affecting me until something worse happens. Well, yeah, I mean, reflecting in rehash and this, two different things. Reflecting is more like, well, one is perceived as positive, one is perceived as negative. Right.
I don't think, and I guess in a context of the question, I don't mean more so reflected. I mean like, what's your family stuff, family dysfunction, family generational curses? I feel like you literally have to go back and do your homework and ask questions. And a lot of times people wanna keep that stuff hidden because it's too embarrassing or it hurts too much. But I think that the only way you hear when the only move forwards to know where you came from and know why those things are.
I feel like when you rehash, you literally like opening those wounds so that you can heal them from the start, not from the skip. To your point, hearing is a part of healing. And even in your last example about rehashing, I mean like opening up the wound, sometimes the infections deep where you gotta reopen the wound to get the infection out. I think we've talked about this on the show before. I've never been white, been black all my life. That happens a lot in blood families.
I'm just saying, I can't speak to anybody else. I know as a police. You know what I'm saying? Black people will keep stuff in the closet for 400 years. Cause they don't wanna embarrass pop pop. But pop pop been a pedophile for the last 50 years. No. Call him out on that crap. You know what I'm saying? Buddy need help. So I definitely think you definitely sometimes have to sit down and get the bottom of these things. You can't break generational curses without identifying the generational curse.
And you gotta figure out where you start from. You take it to a natural sense. Look how they do medicine. They go back and find out what a disease started from. Right. They try to figure out what type of properties prevent this disease. Right. And it's the same thing in the spiritual sense. Going back to, what did you say about generational curses and stuff like that? So remember how on the last episode I said like, sometimes I got intimidated in my call and started to run. So nobody knows this.
But like I almost like kind of, it was a couple of times not too long ago. I seriously thought about taking a break from the show. Because I felt like I wasn't in the right place. I wasn't really enough to be like a period talking about God and then going and doing some completely different. Once we leave from my body here. So I was sitting around talking and like it was two people that I went to and they both said the same thing. Well, you need to take a step back.
Take a step, you know, like back up, like you know what I mean? Like take a break from a show basically. So I almost did it. Then I said, I'm gonna go talk to God about it. And he said, I don't need you to take a step back. I need you to take a step up. What? He said, I need you to, he said, I need you to pray. I need you to open your word. I felt like in that moment, it was so powerful because it was like, I would have almost ran from where I was supposed to be. And I feel like it's very big.
I said I'm discernible going to God first. And I think a lot of times in our walk, we value the opinions of human beings more than God. Yes. That's right. So you got an embrace your shadows. I mean, if I have learned nothing else, I was about to say, just a grand with you. He's a grand with you. Okay. No, no, no, I thought I was going with you to go.
But if I have learned nothing else with being, it's like a psych major, I took a class called personality and she talked a lot about shadow work and bracing shadows. And it sounds like that's crazy. But like God knew, like we were literally born into sin. We can't help it. Like this is literally who we're born into. And it's the choice every day to choose God and to serve God. And so he knew that sometimes we'll slip up. And if every time we slipped up, we started feeling unworthy.
And every time we slipped up, we started about taking a step back. He would never get the glory from any of us. Because literally we are not worthy from the start. So like, and I even talked about it too on the show. Like I don't want to post God, post about God as much or post about this, post about that because I know how I still, how I still am and how I very much can be. And how it only takes one time for me to lose my cool.
And then it's crazy because in the process of everything, God will reintroduce you. Yeah, like remember who I am. Yeah. And then on top of that, it's just like, like people now they come up and see me. But hey bro, I love your podcast. Like you feel like they talk about the podcast. But at one point in time, they was just talking about me being an athlete. Yeah. Like the podcast wasn't on anybody's mind, but I feel like God has kind of reintroduced me.
Yeah. And then people also like to remind you of your past as well. Yes. Oh my gosh. I don't have to say you turned something. I said that. Just because I, you know, people can't remind you all you want. You know what I'm saying? But long as you have the mindset, look where God brought me from. People, I think people remind you because they want to make you feel ashamed about your past. Right, right. But I say to the ex, I say this all the time. It is what it is. Have I done drugs?
Yeah. Oh yeah. I like that transparency though. Yeah. Bro, like the, I can't remember the politician in Jersey. He was on the stand. So I was like, I'm like, yeah, because everybody been through stuff. I ain't got none the hide. Right. If you ashamed of my past, they ain't got none to do with me, B. Right. So you can be, you can remind me all you want to, but let me remind you I am now. Right. Show this self to be true time and time again. If he brought me out, he can bring you out.
And if we were perfect, perfect God, but it had no reason to down the cross. Right. Right. You know what's crazy? Like I think a lot of people think a shadow is a bad thing, but it's really showing you where you should step into. You know how like you're standing under a building, but that light is, so like you're not in the sun, but like you're sort of like portraying like your shadow. Go ahead and step out in the sun. He'd be like, oh, this song feel good. It's because you suppose to be there.
You know what I mean? It's supposed to be in the light. He's supposed to be one of my favorites. It's supposed to be in the light. It's supposed to be in the sun. I can see the light. Just try to see it. I know it's our best song. Yeah. I don't know. I've got to be right guys. Yeah. I don't know. I think, I think that, I feel like even with like you say, like if you feel embarrassed or judged, I feel like I can only feel judged about something if I'm embarrassed about it.
Like I don't really care what you think, not you, but I don't care what you think. About the same. All right. I only, I'm only embarrassed. I would think if I feel, if I'm judging myself, if I understand that you asked, I slipped up, you asked this, you asked it that. But I'm working on it and I'm putting forth for honest efforts to not do those things, then I have what you're saying, but understanding God is really working on me. He's not done with me. Like I still got a lot of ways to go.
And if I was perfect and I could do it all on my own, there would be no reason for me to have God. So I feel like he got a humble us all sometimes. I hold up, play a, remember who I am, remember where I bought you from. And then it was me, not you. That's like history. Like you know how people tell you history is there so you don't repeat it. But it's also there so you look back and you can make the future better. So sometimes you have to look back at it and be like, you know what?
I did used to do this and that, but I'm better because now I know where he's brought me from history. Tell me the truth, Mom. It's because of another life. And another revelation is why we should be in our knees and constantly praying is that God. No. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. That's why we had to answer. Carry on, man. Look at that burrow. And first he said, look back at it. Oh, oh, oh, drink it with a joke. All right, we're done. We're done.
Go. Sorry, that's the end such side of what we do. Sorry. But while we constantly be in prayer and grateful is because God doesn't need us, but He wants us. And if we not, and if we go to take advantage of not even taking advantage, but just be ungrateful of being in a position that He put us in and remove He right out and put somebody else there. He's gonna get the glory out of there. All right. Right.
And if he wants 10,000 people to be saved, but he wants you to do it, and you feel like you to aggregate the deal and remove you and send somebody else in the room. It does. He family. So just having that. And even that, I mean, he may not even remove, I mean, he probably will, but he may not even really remove. He may force you. He like, I'm good. I'm not, if I'm no man, you're gonna do what I say. But in the day, you're gonna bow down to me because I'm Lord.
So he like, oh, you think you have a choice? All right. I think he's gonna make you sit there. I think you do have a choice. 100%. God does not, like you say, and God does not need you, he wants you. And then the day I think you do have a choice, because he wants you to what? He wants you to come on your own free will. You know what I mean? He wants you to come because you have an understanding that I need you. You know what I mean? So he does give you the choice.
If he didn't give you the choice, then everybody in this world would be serving. You know what I mean? God. I mean, I agree. But I feel like sometimes he knows who needs to be pushed. Right. That's the difference though. It's different to the push and I'm forced to do it. But you ever heard people say like, I ran, I ran, I ran, and God made it so I didn't have a choice. Like, like, he's like, I feel like in this, but he separates you.
Because when you with other people, you hearing all of this, all of this, you feel like I have so many choices. But when you buy yourself, you all you see is God. That's him showing you. I'm your only option. Right. That's the choice. Yeah, but I feel like I feel like he's still, he's still is showing you. That's like, you know, I'm just not really yours. That's like run, but you can't hide. That I might not, I might not catch you, but you could still, you know what I mean?
I think God has an end game. Right. Look how Moses and Joshua was done. God wanted his people in the Promised Land. He assigned it to Moses. Moses from with the bag. Right. So then Joshua picked it up and got his folks to the Promised Land. So God in go is what dictates to me, who we choose to run with the ball. But that's like, that makes sense. That's like, that's like, there would be no hell if you didn't have a choice. Right. That's what you choose to go to hell. That's a big thing.
God will see everybody in hell. Right. You choose to go. You just think about that yesterday. Every day we have to wake up and choose to live for. Right. Pick up the cross. Right. Every day. That's too. God don't send a bottle of hell. Everybody be going to hell. That's true. If you didn't have a choice. God, I'm going to hell. Bro, people choose to go. And that's crazy because people come out and tell you like, now I ain't going to. Right. Now I ain't going to chose now. I ain't praying.
Now I ain't going to stop drinking. I ain't going to stop having sex like that. That's just going to tell you. Right. It's a choice. At least they honest. People be like, I'm already in hell. Whoa. People be saying that. Like, because life is so hard for them today. It just feels like, what can help you worse? And I'm like, oh, you have no idea. The fact that you can walk goes to your house and turn the air on let you know that you ain't in hell. You ain't in hell.
That's a lack of understanding. I'm going to say that's a lack of understanding. That's a lack of understanding. But that's also scary. And they really be stuck on that. Like, even if I try to explain like, listen, let me introduce you to God before you even go any further. They like, nah. And they feel like that's it. Because you chose to serve God and you stepped out in your calling, they was put there with that same mindset so you can bring them to God. Agree. Agree.
So it all happens for a reason. What you about to say, you smack the lips like you just, oh, what's that? All these episodes are false. So China's telling us to wrap it up. So that's one more question. So, this is going to be everybody. Number one thing to heal open wounds that you can do. Rick, number one thing you can do to heal open wounds. Be intimate with God. Just my auntie. Ask why? Ask who? Ask God why? Ask your family why? You ever heard a song by Jonathan Rupmino's?
You got me wondering why? Oh, why? Ask why? Questions, questions lead to an answer. You know what I mean? That solves a what? A problem. All right, back to the right. Um. OK, so why are you saying that? So I think she could be first. I'm just thinking about one. I actually like Joe's answer to why. Find out why. I like that. Yeah, I like that answer too. Because they be like, you can't not put the question go. I feel like you are. I don't think that's true at all. Yes, you are.
I know it was like God, uh, build a arc for what? For how? He wants you to ask why so that you learn about what he's done. What, right? And God been telling out showing don't he? Showing out. He did. Long story short, God can hear all your open wounds. Everything literally literally. He's the only one. Later. Doctor. This has been another fantastic episode of Satan's such. We got our producer, Rashon Bregg telling us to wrap it up, but he ain't nobody. It's been another episode.
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