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Ep154: Five next steps, with Andrew Barrett

Aug 19, 202014 min
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One of the worst things to do whilst you are crossing the street in downtown Ho Chi Minh City, amongst the cars and mostly motorbikes and tuk-tuks screaming past in all directions, is to stop, to stand still.
Crossing the street in downtown Ho Chi Minh City. That's the analogy I used to explain what happens immediately before disruption, in my opening keynote address to the New Zealand Safeguard Conference in 2019.
So the metaphorical opposite of this is to be in motion ourselves. Not stuck, stopped, stalled or stale .

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