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SaaS Metrics School

Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making. Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS metrics.
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Episodes

Track Your Professional Services Backlog Number

In episode #116, I provide an overview of professional services backlog in SaaS. Your professional services team play an important role in early customer satisfaction and retention. When we sign up a customer for a subscription and professional services, this creates a services backlog number. - What is backlog? - How do we measure backlog? - Backlog vs billable headcount Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly ...

Nov 06, 20234 min

What is Professional Services?

In episode #115, I provide an overview of professional services in SaaS. Your professional services team plays an important role in early customer satisfaction and retention. - What is PS? - COGS vs OpEx - Backlog and utilization Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben...

Nov 05, 20233 min

Do You Have Balance Between CAC Payback and Retention?

In episode #114, I address the power of SaaS metrics in context. Two metrics that should be viewed together? CAC Payback Period and revenue retention. - do you have balance? - CAC Payback Period - Gross Revenue Retention Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben’s SaaS c...

Nov 04, 20234 min

The Perfect Storm for Cash Burn

In episode #113, I address cash burn from the front lines. If you are still pivoting on product market fit, it can be very dangerous to scale your go-to-market (GTM) team and investment. - product market fit and ICP - scaling your GTM team - S&M efficiency with minimal spend Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics cour...

Nov 03, 20234 min

What Should Be Included in Your Dev Ops Expenses?

In episode #112, I address Dev Ops expenses in our COGS area of the SaaS P&L. Let’s discuss the details of Dev Ops expenses. - hosting - 3rd party software - ongoing security and testing - dev ops staff - amortization of capitalized software development Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www....

Nov 02, 20233 min

Human Powered vs Product Powered Revenue | You Gotta Get This Right

In episode #111, I address human powered versus product powered revenue. It’s so important to categorize your revenue and COGS correctly on your P&L. You don’t want to confuse potential investors and stakeholders. - Human powered revenue - Product powered revenue - Define your revenue categories - Define your COGS Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cf...

Nov 01, 20234 min

Top 5 Accounting Software for SaaS Companies

In episode #110, I address the core system in our financial process, our accounting software. I am in the midst of my 5th annual tech stack survey. I’ll share the top five accounting systems for SaaS. - Accounting software is our financial tracking engine - We don’t always stay with the same software - Top 5 software according to my survey Enter your tech stack at this link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScwVmsrkm81TGANxd17ev3WuuDVX-5zRHXVwrtBCHiRmoyaww/viewform?usp=sf_link Subscribe ...

Oct 31, 20234 min

Levers to Pull in Sales Compensation Planning

In episode #109, I address sales compensation planning and how you can design your plans for maximum effectiveness. QuotaPath joined me on a webinar to my SaaS community. There were some eye-openers on how to design your compensation plans. - What is your north star metric that you are trying to solve for? - 3 common comp plans to drive to your metric - example levers Watch the replay in my No Fluff course series: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/zz3ZR2WL/checkout Head to the Demo section....

Oct 30, 20234 min

Should Downgrades Count Against My Booked ARR?

In episode #109, I address bookings, downgrades, and reporting. We may or may not want to include downgrades in our net ARR number. This is an important decision. - What is a downgrade? - Should I include this in my bookings report? - Should downgrades impact my sales and marketing efficiency metrics? Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing...

Oct 29, 20233 min

Am I Ready for Debt Financing to Fuel Growth?

In episode #107, I address debt financing as a source of growth capital. Debt financing for SaaS companies is a hot space right now. We must assess first if we can absorb the payment schedule. - Step 1 – do you have your finances in order? - Step 2 – what are the basic terms of the debt? - Step 3 – can our cash flows support the payment schedule? - Step 4 - Cost of ARR Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly new...

Oct 28, 20234 min

I’ve Got My SaaS P&L Set Up | What’s Next?

In episode #106, I address early stage financial infrastructure. I was just talking to a SaaS founder who spent some consulting money to properly configure QBO. What’s next? - The progression in data - 4 key sources of data Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben’s Saa...

Oct 27, 20234 min

High Growth High Confusion

In episode #105, I address growing pains. If you are experiencing high growth, don’t let your financial infrastructure lapse. High growth can cause financial confusion if we don’t have our numbers set up properly. - Focus on SaaS COGS - Who really does what in your SaaS company Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics cours...

Oct 26, 20233 min

Mind the Gap in Your Renewal Dates

In episode #104, I address a common issue that wreaks havoc on your MRR schedule. And it will create pain for you in due diligence and retention reporting. - What is an anniversary date? - Gaps in your customer MRR schedule - Impact on retention and due diligence - MRR schedule resources ( https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/zz3ZR2WL/checkout ) Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailch...

Oct 25, 20234 min

Code Your Consultants and Contractors Separately

In episode #103, I address consultant and contractor coding. It’s important to get this right in your chart of accounts. SaaS companies often supplement staffing with full or part-time contractors. For efficiency purposes, we need to treat this expense just like employees. Always consult with your HR professional on your labor classifications. That's a whole separate subject. - What are consultants - What are contractors - How to code on your SaaS P&L - ROSE Metric ( https://www.thesaascfo.c...

Oct 24, 20234 min

What’s Lurking in Your G&A Expenses?

In episode #102, I address a common dumping ground for expenses, your G&A cost center. There are many activities and roles within G&A. We must manage it like any area in our business. - What is G&A? - What sub-departments are located in G&A? - What’s a good spend target for G&A? - Should I allocate shared services? Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6b...

Oct 23, 20234 min

How Do I Handle Spikes in Sales and Marketing Expenses

In episode #101, I address a common student question in my SaaS metrics course. We may have large spikes in S&M expenses due to events, conferences, or maybe, a major consulting project. - Should we ever exclude expenses? - How should I calculate S&M metrics with spikes in expense Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Me...

Oct 22, 20232 min

How Do I Start Implementing SaaS Metrics?

In episode #100, I thought it would be appropriate to address SaaS metrics at a high level. Where do I start with metrics? - Right metrics for the right stage of your business - Use my 5 Pillar SaaS Metris Framework ( https://www.thesaascfo.com/downloads/five-pillar-metrics-framework/ ) - 4 key data sources for SaaS metrics Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-s...

Oct 21, 20233 min

How to Really Determine What Should Be in COGS

In episode #99, I address a very common question in SaaS finance. What should be included in COGS? It’s so important to get this right. If you don’t, you will mismanage your business. - Pure-play SaaS COGS departments - COGS dictated by your revenue streams - My test to determine COGS functions Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page S...

Oct 20, 20234 min

Do You Include Sales Operations in S&M Expenses?

In episode #98, I address the major functions that we see in Sales. Should these be coded to Sales or somewhere else? - Fully-burdened expenses - Common expenses in sales and marketing Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben’s SaaS community here: https://www.thesaasac...

Oct 19, 20232 min

What Churn % Should I Use for LTV

In episode #97, I address churn and LTV. We think SaaS metrics are completely objective, but it is very easy to influence the result of a metrics calculation. Period of measurement is major factor in SaaS metrics calculations. - What churn number should we use? - What time period represents our churn? - LTV is a point-in-time metric! Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf...

Oct 18, 20233 min

CAC Calculation and Multiple GTM Strategies

In episode #96, I address our core CAC calculation when we have different product lines and different go-to-market (GTM) strategies. We can’t blend these together when calculating customer acquisition costs. - What is CAC? - What is GTM - How do I calculate CAC? Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https:/...

Oct 17, 20233 min

These are the 4 Source Data Inputs for SaaS Metrics

In episode #95, I address the major data source we need to calculate the complete SaaS metrics picture. It’s important to have clean and repeatable data that we can pull every month. - CRM / MRR schedule - Financial data - HRIS data - Operational/Revenue data Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://ww...

Oct 16, 20233 min

Have You Heard of the Dollar-based CAC Payback Period?

In episode #94, I address a variation of the traditional CAC Payback Period. This is a great supplement to your traditional SaaS metrics. - What is CAC Payback Period? - What is Dollar-based CAC Payback - When should I use these? Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben...

Oct 15, 20233 min

What Metrics Should I Measure as I move from $2M ARR to $4M ARR

In episode #93, I address a student question from my live SaaS metrics foundation course. This is a great question and one that must be answered by all SaaS companies as they scale. - First, let’s understand your financial profile - Let’s review my 5 Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework ( https://www.thesaascfo.com/downloads/five-pillar-metrics-framework/ ) - Right metrics at the right stage Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s ...

Oct 14, 20233 min

What Should I Include in My Sales and Marketing Expenses?

In episode #92, I address a student question from my SaaS metrics foundation course. It actually caught me off guard, because I talk a lot about fully-burdened cost centers. We can’t forget the foundational components. - Full-burdened expenses - Split Sales from Marketing Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses her...

Oct 13, 20233 min

How Much Should I Spend in S&M as a Percentage of Revenue?

In episode #91, I address investments in the OpEx section of our SaaS P&L. We must monitor our spend in sales and marketing. We expect efficiency over time in our OpEx area. - What is OpEx? - What are the S&M benchmarks? - Careful with this benchmark - Benchmarkit.ai is your source for benchmarks Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-land...

Oct 12, 20233 min

How Much Should I Spend in G&A as a Percentage of Revenue?

In episode #90, I address investments in the OpEx section of our SaaS P&L. We must monitor our spend in G&A. We expect efficiency over time in our OpEx area. - What is OpEx? - What are the G&A benchmarks? - Benchmarkit.ai is your source for benchmarks Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https:...

Oct 11, 20233 min

How Much Should I Spend in R&D as a Percentage of Revenue?

In episode #89, I address investments in the OpEx section of our SaaS P&L. We must monitor our spend in R&D. We expect efficiency over time in our OpEx area. - What is OpEx? - What are the R&D benchmarks? - Benchmarkit.ai is your source for benchmarks Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https:...

Oct 10, 20233 min

What is the Ideal Revenue Mix for a Pure-play SaaS Valuation?

In episode #88, I address revenue mix and one-time revenue when considering SaaS valuations. It your product requires professional services for customer onboarding, we must be aware of our current revenue mix and how that mix will play out in the future. - Revenue mix - Professional services - PS revenue mix over time - SaaS valuations Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6...

Oct 09, 20233 min

What Advisors Do I Need as a First-time SaaS Founder?

In episode #87, I address advisors and first-time SaaS founders. It’s important to have the right team from the beginning to avoid mistakes down the road. - Accounting - Tax Accounting - Corporate Attorney - Fractional CFO Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/ Join Ben’s SaaS...

Oct 08, 20234 min
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