#98 | Sammy Siegel | Round 2 |

Yeah , I just bought 10 and a half size shoe . Limited Jordans came out . I , for some stupid reason , I was under the assumption that when you're young , your foot doesn't like . At some point , when you're in like middle high school , your foot just . That's the foot size that you have yeah , my dumb ass was just like oh , why do my toes always hurt ?

I'm like , why ? Why is my pinky toe always feel like it's getting smashed by these limited jordans ? Oh , it's the shoe . It's just a narrow shoe . No , don't go barefoot at the airport . I see that too often . I'm not doing that . That's definitely not what's happening , but I want to feel the earth . No , no , I'm not doing that .

I'm not doing that , but anyway . So fucking people are interesting , man . Um , but yeah , so I , I just I . I always believed that I was a 10 and a half . I don't know why I never thought that , hey , bro , you're just buying the wrong shoe size . So I'm actually an 11 .

So I had all these limited edition Jordans that were just sick shoes and I bought them all in 10 and a half so I never wore them .

Yeah , dude , you raise your hands that first time that you're training in that shirt that you just washed , you raise your hand at the gym for like a front raise or a press or something , and all of a sudden , just like belly button out , it's like , wow , nick's got a crop top on . Huh , yeah , dude , it's fucking nuts .

The Origin shirts are by far some of the best shirts I've ever purchased and I've ever worn . Yo , origin , send the check , send the shirts that you know . Origin , send the check , send the shirts . Truth be told , send the shirts .

Origin is the company in maine that makes all american-made clothing , okay , so they have all the textiles , everything up in in maine . Joe rogan , I believe , isn't , is a part owner . He's a , you know , bought in part owner . Uh and uh , jocko willink , all those guys up there , unbelievable , I mean I , I have their geese , I have their jeans .

Their jeans are so nice . Yeah , and the cool thing is , for shorter dudes , you can choose the length of the jean , so they'll do down to a 28 inch for the actual length of the pant .

So it's it's pretty nice that you have that ability to customize it and then , at the end of the day , you're paying 100 bucks for a pair of jeans that are made in the states take a look at that that are made in the States . Yeah . So I used to buy . What did I used to buy ? Oh my God , True Religion .

I used to buy True Religion jeans all the time and they were cool .

Anything to do it , anything I , if I have to wear four layers of clothing right now hanging on the logo .

It felt like I was in purgatory just waiting to get out of that store , like the place between heaven and hell , just waiting . I'm like oh my God , why does time cease to exist in this place ?

And then I would just be like , oh god , you're just kind of following her around like a lost dog , am I gonna get another treat ? And then , and then you wind up just like trying to play on your phone because , like the iphone was just starting to pop off and have some internet , you try to play on your phone but there's no cell phone connection .

Because you're in a dungeon of just misery . Bro . Yeah , no , that store sucked , that store store sucked . That store sucked .

Hey , it's cool , you just don't know how to use your shit . They're just like no , no , no , they're impossible , impossible and they just freak out . You know they .

They freak out because they , they want to just be in the right and their , their , their technological device isn't working and all of a sudden they're like this is the end of the world , this is the apocalypse . My phone can't make a call right now . How am I going to survive ? I don't know what year are we in . How'd they do it before ? We're gonna .

We're gonna be okay , we're gonna get through this . I remember I had a dude short story . I had a guy who walked into the apple store in manhasset completely beside himself this is a true story too completely beside himself , angry from the jump , comes walking in and you're just like seeing this guy and you're like but like .

So I don't know if anybody's ever gone to the apple store in manhasset and if you're not from new york . Basically , if I can paint the picture for you , it's a giant box . It's a wealthy ass area too , wealthy ass area . It's a giant box store outside in a mall . That's outdoors , basically , and it's glass back .

Uh , that faces one of the main areas , um , for the one of the main uh roadways for a lot of traffic , and in the back , in the , in the main entrance where we were , it's the entire parking lot . So , anyway , so the dude comes in and there's rows of tables and all of the new hires and all the people that are not lower but are entry-level associates .

They're all in the front waiting to greet somebody and then bring them to wherever they need to go . You need to go to the genius bar . Can I help you with a sale ? Do you need to speak to a manager , like whatever it is , they're there to do all of that . Yeah , uh , delegating out tasks of where the person needs to go . So , anyway .

So the guy comes in and from the jump he's just he's yelling , he's just angry , his phone's not working , this and that , and then everybody turns around . There's like six associates . Everybody turns around , looks at me and they part like that , like moses parting the sea and I just go this one all right , yo come on over here , let's check it out .

And the dude just , he's like I drove all the way this before there was a apple store in brooklyn . He's like I drove all the way from fucking brooklyn , like going on and on . I'm like what dude ? What's the question ? Man , just tell me . Yeah , he's like , where do I get my mail ? I looked at him . I went , let me ask you this .

I said , without sounding like I'm making fun I go . If you look at that phone , where do you believe you'd find your mail ?

And he just looked down at the phone , looked at it , looked at me and he went fucking place and he just walked out Like dog .

Would it have been a lot easier than him driving from brooklyn to manhasset yeah , that is , queens , brooklyn area , city area all the way up to like the first real suburb of long island ? I mean , that was like an hour trip at least and it was

in the afternoon .

Yeah , I didn't want any associate man you know what I and true . So here's I'm gonna . I'm gonna describe some of the downfalls of that so far , because I'm sure I get questions every now and then about it . So the benefits are that everybody gets this number and it's not to say that no one's . This is important .

Still , you hit me up , I'm gonna answer it . Of course everybody gets this number . I talk to everybody through this work , friends , stuff like that . I facetime , everything that I need to do , all my social media is on this phone . Great , now I have the personal phone .

For a while I was shutting that phone off at like seven o'clock at night , six o'clock at night , before I went to jujitsu . So jujitsu is mostly at 6 30 at night .

I'd shut that phone off , I'd leave it at home and I'd bring the personal phone with me and that would be the phone that I was on for the rest of the night until the next morning at like 8 am after og , all that stuff . Okay , workday starting , turn this back on and check because it's off .

I'm not compelled to start checking some of the pitfalls that I that I've I've had since having the two phones . The first pitfall is if I start talking to a girl . I don't want to give them that number right out the gate , no , of course .

Otherwise it's just like everybody it's , you know , because unless there's going to be a real thing , yeah , and it's not to say that , you know , to any of the girls that I've spoken to that may hear this , it's not to say that I don't prioritize you or think that you deserve a personal number .

It's just like if it doesn't work out and we don't get past the talking stage , then I'm just giving this number out again .

I don't have that number on me but like , yeah , text me , I'll answer when I get home . Not really that big of a deal breaker , it's's a lot of people that there is . but I wear a fanny pack . Oh dude , I don't give a shit man Yo . If someone's going to judge me on my fanny pack , judge away , bro . I'm cool with it .

However , now that I'm back in my grind mode of building my channel up , building my socials up , I redownloaded TikTok on this phone , all that .

Now I'm in that mode of like constantly checking again even though the notifications are off , and now all my notifications are off for social , but I still find myself in and out Like I pick my phone up and I check it . I pick my phone up and I check it . So I'm trying to get away from that notion check it . So I'm trying to get away from that notion .

Yeah , but at the same time it's like until I'm able to hire somebody to monitor all the social channels and everything like that , yeah , and then I can . Just they can do all like the grunt work . Yeah , I can do the real posting and the real interaction stuff and like the lives and whatnot yeah it listen . It's give or take .

It's kind of like I'm way better than I was previously with my phones , but at the same time it's like I turn this phone , I turn that phone off at night sometimes and my mom will my , you know . I'll remember that I have to set an alarm or do something like that .

So I'm turning this phone back on and then , yeah , it could be a little monotonous sometimes .

That's like my cutoff boom dinner . You know like spend time with Aaron , that's it .

I even told him I was like you can enjoy this little echo chamber of Gabe and he just kept messaging me . He kept just fucking around in the message .

So when you're in a relationship with somebody , if you allow these boundaries to be crossed regularly , by the time you want to set the boundaries straight , it's gone already , it's shot . They're gonna be like well , you've been doing this the whole time .

So my biggest thing is just set the set the boundaries early , set the expectation early and just be like hey , I don't answer past X amount of time , it's me time my fiance soon to be wife , like all that stuff I need to have me time Of course I realized it was .

You know you , you don't , you don't want to feel like you're always working Like I , I like I have a couple of really close friends that I coach as well and , like you know , you know they would be asking me questions like , hey , you know , you know , what do I do for this , this or that , and it's like you know , 8 , 30 at night .

One of them actually said , uh , no , I actually said to one of them I was like , hey , bro , like can we talk about this in the morning , because I really I'm not trying to work like this late at night . And he was like , oh , I didn't know . Like talking to one of your boys , like it was work , I'm like dude , like if it has to do with- .

You know what his response is going to be hey , I'll hit you tomorrow .

Yeah , dude , and even , and whether that means so healthy to be able to do that too and whether that and whether that means like watching netflix , whether it means chilling out and with with nothing going on , no sounds , no , no stimulus . Reading a book , meditating , whatever that is , you have to learn to it I've learned to love to not do anything anymore .

Oh , we were all leaving Gaslighting you Like . Why aren't you on the train with ?

So here here's a perfect example . Are you , are you more inclined to go out to a bar , spend , spend . You know , between you and Aaron , let's just say anywhere from 80 to 120 bucks for a dinner , exactly , and then stay out a little bit longer . Let's say another 40 to 50 dollars on drinks . Or would you rather take out ?

So the takeout's going to be cheaper , sure , so it'd be 40 bucks . Let's say 50 bucks for some food , whatever . Say 50 bucks for some food , whatever you let's say you are drinking , or you know you , you want to get some okay , six pack of beer , or or you bought some alcohol at the store , whatever . What have you , whatever ?

Your vice is that you want to enjoy , okay , great . Let's say another 20 bucks , all right . So now we're at 60 bucks yeah and you're in the comfort of your home with netflix and the one you love and the pup and you know I'm saying like pups and you just get to relax .

You don't have to worry about oh shit , I just drank , so now how am I going to get home ? You don't have to worry about any of that . Now you can just be still

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I would say , whether it's you know dinner or you know going to someone's house or whatever , it is right as soon as they say , yeah , like we're going to go out after dinner .

People are so into isn't that crazy people are so into themselves , like now and in positives and negatives , to be honest with you there are still those people that are in that cycle of I need to go out , I need to go do every weekend . I see it . I live in a village .

I see it every weekend especially around here too , yeah but I , I would say that more so and I don't know if it's just because I'm surrounding myself with these people more , more so people are more inclined to just go train hard all week , all night , you know , whatever the thing is , let's say friday night , let's give a friday night as an example , I'm going

to train jujitsu and then , if somebody wants , you know , if I know somebody , a girl friend , whatever you want to come over watch a movie , hang out like 8 pm . Kenji needs his medicine . I have to give kenji his pills . So I'm here for the night , you know , unless there's really something going on eight o'clock , yeah , 8 , 30 I walk him again .

Nine o'clock . You know we're back in the house . Dude , I'm chilling . I got jujitsu the next morning at 9 am . That is my . My main goal is longevity . Now , I'm not one of these psychos . I'm not one of these psychos that needs to like every fucking thing is just like every modality of health and longevity .

I'm not , but when it comes down to it , my ability to stay healthy and active is to continue training at a high level and to continue like staying on the grind , because the second I take my foot off the gas pedal . It's not that I'm gonna stop , it's not that it's gonna .

It's gonna slow down , though it's gonna regress a little bit I am not kidding when I say this .

But it has gotten to the point like , bro , like we went to arizona , right like for my bachelor party , I had one beer the entire weekend and I had a fucking blast . Yeah , I like . Yeah , if I have a sip of alcohol nowadays I feel like shit dude .

You know , when you , when you learn to actually learn about yourself and be still and be alone , yeah , you actually learn to not feel like I need to loosen up just to talk to people .

They don't want to just like sit around and booze and this , and that I believe I , I'm I'm convinced that's the older generations and some of the younger generation that you're seeing , but I'm not seeing as much of like what it used to be in terms of just like the amount of people going out and and getting fucking bent .

now I'm sure I also feel like it's because , like we're getting older , you know , like my sisters- yeah , but I , but I would say that this is this , this health group , training , everything , all of this stuff . This is more of a push . Now , this wasn't something , let's say , 15 years ago . Yeah , it wasn't , it was still .

People in their 30s were still partying like the ship was going down . Yeah , like it was 99 .

It's such a weird thing because it's not that I never thought I wouldn't drink , but it's just . You know , you tell people I , I've said this plenty of times you , you tell people that , oh yeah , I've been sober for I don't know what it is now like a year and two months or something like that .

I haven't had any alcohol , no drugs , nothing for a year and two months . And people just go like whoa , that's like really respectable this and that . But then they start to you see , in their face , they start to reconsider their decisions and they go .

It's crazy man , but times have changed , I think , for the good , so let's keep this ball rolling . But there , arizona , I fucking miss you , man .

There's really nothing that's like outstandingly new , Just working with new clients doing some cool shit , yeah , and just consistently just trying to push this thing forward , Staying more consistent with the podcast , with YouTube Now recently , and I just want to keep this train rolling .

I'm in the middle of really trying to establish like systems needed in order to continue to scale . Um , that's like my biggest thing right now . I've , I've , and I think my hardest thing for me is , like I've never been very tech savvy I think I'm trying to learn , but , man , like , marketing is hard .

Yeah , man , marketing is hard because you have to find a way to differentiate yourself from , you know , all the other fitness influencers out there , um , which I'm not honestly coaches , really what I strive to be . But , um , yeah , like it's hard nowadays , bro . So , yeah , that's kind of where I am right now .

You know , um , I'm not like actively trying to get any new clients in . Um , you know , I'm just trying to provide like the best experience that I can right now .

You could rip off fucking different trends and all these different dances and stuff like that . I don't know I , I , I feel like I , I don't know . I , I , I feel like I see . You know , you see the same low caliber humans that like that content .

Yeah , and if that's what you're targeting as your audience and as the people that you want to grow , your channel by all means do it , but I'm just I'm .

You know I'm not the guy to stay authentic to yourself exactly I'm not the guy to , I'm not the guy to do pranks and all this bullshit and these like these sensationalism type headlines or this clickbait titles and stuff like that .

And it's tough because , listen , I use ai with certain things to help chop extra clips for the podcast , because just it helps with timing for myself yeah there's definitely benefits to ai now without question and there always and there always has been .

But you know , the more that you see it integrated into things , the more you realize like wow , if we don't really put a bottle on this thing can I give you an example real quick ?

I mean , well , obviously it was a guy's voice , but he never changed any tone , he was never like .

One client doesn't have a lot of money to spend on campaigns and that's you know nothing against them . It's just their budget , whatever it is , doesn't have a lot of money to spend on campaigns , but what they see that I do , they don't see the value in it . They don't see the value in speaking to me , collaborating , creating personalized content for the brand .

So that person versus another person that has a budget sees the value in it , sees the creativity side that we can both come at it from different angles . Sees that it's you know , sees that I'm not just a videographer , photographer , because that's not what I am . I'm more of a digital agency .

At this point , and I have been for a long time Now I'm really branding myself as such . I'm done with the videographer title because if I was just a videographer , I wouldn't have to edit , I wouldn't have to fly a drone , I wouldn't have to help people with marketing content , strategies , all this stuff .

So I'm not a videographer and unfortunately , people just look at it like that . So client A not really a budget , doesn't see the value , looks at me as just a videographer . Client B has a budget , understands the benefits of collaboration and understands the potential for us to scale his business based on marketing campaigns and X , y , z , whatever .

Who is going to go with the AI system ? At the end of the day , client A , client A is going to sit there and go . I don't see the value . I'm just going to pay a thousand bucks for this video . For this , they always put a high , um , a high emphasis .

If you don't see the value in that , chances are you're not going to be a good client anyway . So I think that's really where my marketing right now is like .

Really what I'm trying to focus on is I want to market and really speak to one specific person that I know would be a top tier , not only client of mine but me , be able to , you know , essentially change their life , you know . So I think that's like very important is being able to market towards one specific person that you really want to work with .

And it's always been so hard for me , coming from the group . You know , coming from the group industry , there are a lot of different , you know , types of people that you will see going to the studio .

That's where I've gotten a lot of my clients and it's been hard for me at times because everybody's different and I have to cater to a lot of different you know like types of you know . You know personalities and everything like that .

I am at the stage now where I want to market towards one person who is essentially the old version of me , right , because I've been able to get from , you know , like point A to point Z . I want to help that person , you know , get there as well . So I think it's very , very important , you know , when it comes to that .

First off , when vetting clients and not giving your entire strategy or your entire process away , one of the things that people in my industry if they don't use it , they will hopefully listen to this and use it going forward , because it's something that I've discovered as of late is a discovery call . Discovery calls you charge for . Yeah , it's not free .

We're not giving free game out here anymore . It's not . It's not how this works . You want free game ? Go go google shit . Yeah , you're calling me , you're asking me things , because I've had plenty of clients over the years that we've created a plan before any paperwork was signed . We I've given them ideas , I've given them free game .

I've just in in the hopes that we're going to have this relationship and once the time comes to you know , cross some t's , dot , some i's that the contracts are going to be signed , that they either go with somebody else that's cheaper or they do something like that .

It is what it is at the end of the day , but I'm not doing these free discovery calls anymore . That's not what this is . So I think the same thing should be with you Flat rate , 50 bucks , 75 bucks , whatever it is . Hey , let's talk about just kind of . What I'm thinking is the plan , the call to action that we need to do .

The plan , all this different stuff , $50 for a half hour of my time , this and that If we have to go longer , this is the prorated rate , whatever it might be , but valuing

your time . I never thought of it that way translates to the second part of your question or your statement and conundrum whereas we have a specific type of client that we want to go with , you don't want to have to deal with rejection . Unfortunately , in our business , as an entrepreneur , you're always going to deal with rejection .

Now , how you deal with that rejection is pretty dependent on what your line of acceptability is . So let's say for me , I have a client that has a $1,000 budget for a video campaign . It's not enough for what we want to do . I could say no and I could say , hey , the budget's not there , blah , blah , blah .

Or I could say , hey , based on that budget , I can give you this . I'm willing to work with you on this , but based on that budget , with you on this , but based on that budget . I can't give you what you're asking for .

So , yeah , it's um , but I think it's hard for me because , you know , coming from the group fitness industry , people are used to one price and it's essentially like pretty low price , right , like you go to artist theory . It's like you know , 179 bucks a month . I do not charge that . I definitely charge a little bit more for me .

It's I've , and I've gotten a lot better with this . Um , I never really like , I never really opened up about this . I used to . I used to deal with major , major imposter syndrome , like I used to think why the hell would anybody want to listen to what I have to say ?

We allow that to almost internalize in us and develop our thought process on how we feel , but that has nothing to do with it .

So that has really helped me stick to my price point when it comes to that stuff . But yeah , I used to deal with it really , really badly .

And I'm sorry , but I'm in business to make money , I'm not in business to scrape by . So at the end of the day , you know , if your budget calls for a certain project and we both agree to it and those margins happen to be larger than what I'm used to , I'm not going to lower , I'm not going to .

You know , let's say the budget's $10,000 , but the package price maybe you know what I'm saying . Like , maybe it was like nine . Am I supposed to just say , oh , no , I'll do it for nine .

Okay , well , if the budget's ten thousand , we're going to work with ten thousand and that's also going to give me room just in case there are edits to be made or extra work that needs to be done . Yeah , but I , I'm , I'm in this for profit , like I need to be able to make food , make money . I need food , kenji needs food , like .

At the end of the day , everybody goes to work every day . Everybody , you know , tries to create the next banger idea or anything like that , so they can make money and be well off . Now back to back to um , back to the thought process of clients , rejections and all that stuff . When I first started out , I used to charge like 200 a video .

There's a lot of people that I know that are still in this , that are in the video industry and content creation side of things that charge way less than that , way less , and I have to remind some of these people . You paid three thousand dollars for a camera . You paid fifteen hundred dollars for a lens . You paid a thousand dollars for a gimbal .

You pay your , your monthly subscription for your creative cloud . You're learning all these different things . You're spending tons of time harnessing the skill . Doing all this . It's a shitload of money . It's a shitload of money and it's a shitload of fucking time . Which time is money at the end of the day ?

So the process of upgrading yourself and , in turn , upgrading your pricing structure is scary because you're going to lose clients , without question . Once you say , let's say , your original price was $1,000 for a video and now it's $2,000 a video , those $1,000 video clients are probably not going to work with you unless they see that inherent value .

They love working with you . You've built the relationship up and even still , even if the relationship is rock solid , sometimes it still doesn't work , and it is what it is . You can meet them for their $1,000 budget , but understand that if you used to charge somebody a price and now you charge a new price to do the same amount of work , questions . Yeah .

They're going to give you pushback , of course , but it does open up a new realm of clients that are more than willing to pay that price because they see the value .

We'll hit you up for another shoot and they hit me up in a month or two months , down the line , three months , whatever it is . Hey , nick , we need some more content . We love the last round . Let's do that . The clients that haggle me down , that give me all the pushback I need extra meetings .

I mean need all the discovery call , like really like one call wasn't enough to start to get the ball rolling for for our uh contract . They need multiple calls , multiple things , multiple . Oh well , this guy used to charge me this .

And they start giving you all this pushback job that you took a hit on because you allowed yourself to kind of whittle your . You allowed them to whittle you down . Now it's a negative job .

Yeah , now , not only is the client never going to use you again , because they had , they had a , an experience that was , in their opinion , lackluster , but now you feel as though you're just being taken advantage of and taken for a ride , and nobody wins the clients wins .

Yep , and that's what I have realized and it has helped me market towards , you know , like those other people now , yep , right , so , yeah , no , I mean dude , one of my very , very , very , very good friends , um , charges 800 bucks a month for online coaching .

Okay , he's one of the most probably he's , he's probably one of the best online coaches that like I I have ever seen in terms of like business and actually getting people the you know the results exactly . 800 bucks a month , yeah , that's 9,600 bucks a year .

They were doing the interviews they needed . It turned around in 24 hours . I drove from , obviously , long Island to Philly . I drove there early . It was like early , was it Saturday morning ? Saturday morning . I drove there early Saturday morning .

I went down there , I set everything up , shot six interviews , which each interview , truth be told , was only like four minutes , and then they sent me all the logos . I was in touch with the drug company , the parent company , and I drove back that same night and the traffic was dog shit going back .

I mean , it was like a two , it was like a two , two and a half hour drive back , but anyway , that was an eight thousand dollar day for me . Eight thousand dollars . Bro . Edited the videos that night . It's fucking awesome , it , I mean . But that's that's , that's the example of a client that you want .

Edited the videos that night , sent it to them next day , bro , the literally , literally messaged me they go , looks excellent . Thank you so much . Dick sent the final payment .

I mean , some of them do spend 50 grand , though , for commercials , but that's a high production value . So it's like these are the clients that you want . Bro , one day of work I made what most people don't make in a month .

This is what I'm trying to instill in other creative videographers , photographers , digital agencies , all this stuff . There is money out there . I don't like . I'm at the point where I'm looking for those jobs consistently now .

Yeah , because if I can shoot for four days , five days a month and make 30 , 40 grand and then the rest of my time is spent on podcasting , yep Doing , and then the rest of my time is spent on podcasting , doing more YouTube content for my brand , everything like that , and then this starts to take off . That's the dream .

It's just realistic and it's just scaling .

really like that . I have to be a content creator for my business . Yeah , it's very hard for me . Number one it's I've never been able to be fully consistent and post every single day of every single week . I don't know why , but it's just like I don't want to have the attention span that I have to be on Instagram all the fucking time . Can I tell you ?

If you want to be a like not only a content creator , but you want to be a , a manager , a social media manager and they want to do all day . If you want to be a like not only a content creator , but you want to be a , a manager , a social media manager , and you want to manage the accounts of the people that you're working with and this and that .

I stopped posting on it for like four , four or five months and , truth be told , the AI thing that I use for some of the podcast clips that software posts for me to TikTok , I'm 99% sure they downgrade the , the um , the reach , when they see that there's a scheduler going into it .

Do you think for a second that if they didn't have advertisers lining up and spending money hand over hand to Instagram , tiktok , youtube , all these If they didn't have these advertisers , we would without question have another monthly subscription .

I can do all my long form content and I can do short content in shorts and I can do different playlists and different clips , and this and that Instagram was a photo app . Yeah . It was used primarily by artists , creatives to showcase their work almost like a rolling portfolio .

In a certain way , it has been since taken over by girls shaking their ass online and dudes shaking their cocks in mirrors . That's really what we're at at this point .

And you're just like , uh , what ? Yeah , okay , and then you start doing that . You're really fucking good at it . Thank you , I appreciate it . You know it's and it and it's . It's tough for me with with you know , looking at other creators , because the same thing with coaching and every comparison is the thief of joy you start Imposter syndrome .

Yeah , man , imposter syndrome and comparison and all these different things . You start looking at all these other people and you see that the field is ultra-saturated . But what industry is it not ultra-saturated in ? So , at the end of the day , you got to get over it . Every industry is ultra-saturated . How many fucking people are in the world ?

Seven billion Billion , okay , yeah , guarantee somebody , guarantee there's millions of people that are better than you at what you do and guarantee there are millions that are worse . Hundreds of millions , hundreds of millions in both directions . Let's just give a vast number . So you have to just , at the end of the day , focus on what you need to do .

What is your end goal goal ? Is your end goal to just continue to have , you know , mediocre relationships with , like , low-paying customers , or is it to look , be looked at as a niche product ? You know , the perfect example is people don't go to lamborghini and go oh , can I get you know ? Oh , well , I see it's 250 000 , but you know what ?

Can we work out a deal for like 200 or 150 , bro ? They'll be like doors right there , brother yeah . Get the fuck out .

There are far more , a lot , just like how you said there's a million other coaches in this world , that you said there's a million other coaches in this world that are better than me , but there's also a million that are worse , Horrible .

Yeah , it's like if I , if I ever obviously I'm not up here , but if I was up here , right and I and I said , hey , like you know , I should really get like a photo shoot or something like that you are going to be the first person that I go to I appreciate that it's like I know you for years upon .

You know there's rapport and you know that I'm not going to fuck the shoot up .

Um , and that is probably what I think is like the most important thing in , you know , like our field , and that's why , like , I don't love the concept of having to be a content creator along with that , because I know it only goes so far . Yeah , you know what I'm saying ?

I don't know the specific uh number , but think about how many videos are probably posted in a minute on all these platforms In a minute Millions , yeah . So just , you know yours had a couple thousand views . And think about all the other videos that are being posted around the same time . I'm flattered , thanks .

I'll take my couple hundred views , I don't give a fuck .

But because it's it's dropped down , I'm at 52.8 and have any of those followers equated to subscriptions on YouTube ? Not that I've seen , maybe , maybe a couple hundred in total . But you know , we go back to the echo chamber of all these social channels . Everyone just hangs out in these platforms , whatever someone's platform is .

I feel like there's a lot of people that are just TikTok users , just Instagram users , just YouTube users . They don't really , you know , cross-pollinate with each . You know I can't . We have all of them because we put the content out there . There's nothing . You know . These people sometimes just want to consume on one platform .

So , you know , a person that watches my clip let's say it's a minute clip on TikTok they may just take it at face value for whatever the clip was and then move on . They don't want to see the rest of the video .

But I have to be okay with that as a content creator , of course , because I'm just pushing shit out there as much as I can get the message out , because my first 10 videos aren't going to stick with you . But maybe the 11th video is going to stick with you .

Everything I did every drunk-filled weekend for Nick was on Snap at one point and , truth be told , I wish I read— .

He opens up his Snapchat he's got a hundred snaps and all they do is just like send like their faces back and forth to each other .

I don't want to see anybody's face , I want to just text people . There's no fucking . You know , I mess nothing . It's like yeah , just text me . Did you see the Terrence Howard on Joe Rogan ? Did you watch that ? Yet .

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We have lived our lives and just been programmed to understand that , like you go to school , you come home , that's it . You go to school , come home , that's it . You know . You do your sport , you go to work , you're gonna get married one day . The white picket fence , the american dream , all this stuff and I .

I've seen that and from my perspective , things have shifted substantially since the the ability to have information at any given point and more questions of why , how , who , why are we here ? What are we ? You know there has to be more to these things . You know , okay , we just were born , we die .

It's like you know religion , all these different things that people are questioning , and then you start seeing the powers that are above everybody theoretically . Yeah , you know the elites , all this stuff and the amount of lying that they do to begin with . So you start sitting there and go , wow , what else have you not told us ? Yeah , you know I've said this .

I feel like I've said this every podcast , because it's just such a funny example . It's like the people that make fun of flat earthers or the people that make fun of people that believe we're under a firmament and space isn't real . Yeah , you know , and that we're actually on the outskirts .

And I just go , have you ever been to space ? I don't know , I've never been there , I don't , I don't know about this for . Hours yeah , I'm not saying that it's real . I'm not saying it isn't real . I don't know . I've never been there , though , unless I went up and I felt it and I saw it and I experienced it . I don't know .

I'm going to sit here and go .

You know like the civil war . You know like the great depression . You know like all that kind of stuff that was only like a hundred years ago oh yeah , only yeah , what's what is the world ? what is what is the world going to be like 500 years from now ?

Yeah , like we are like , yes , we are technically in like an advanced time period , now what's it going to be like 500 years from now ? I think we're fucking stupid . You're going to have robots walking around .

What the hell is the name of it ? I think it's called like way , waymo or something like that wemo , waymo , I think waymo , I think it was w-a-y-m-o . I have to look this shit up , okay let's see .

Take a ride now .

I think the electrical car concept is cool , but I'm not buying into it .

The technology is not there yet . We're not ready for this .

I'm not anti-vax but I do believe at some point you just push too much on people and immune systems get compromised and all this stuff . But I do find that all-coors mortality from vaccinations has that problem rate where processed foods , ultra high processed foods and GMO driven foods are some of the biggest killers of human beings right now .

Yep , and I believe that that's not talked about a lot .

Let me just say this I think that anybody that believes that they should get x amount of vaccines , anything like that , I think you should go for it and do it . But you also on the other spectrum , you can't sit there and question people that they're not necessarily just saying no for the fuck of it .

Yeah , they have reasons behind why they don't want to do something . You have to just have an open mind and go okay , let's have some dialogue . You can't just instantly shut shit down and be like we know you're anti-vaxxer , fuck you , it's like that . That's .

That's how it works , man , everybody has and then we have consistent problems in this country and in this world when people shut down all forms of communication . You have to have two-way dialogue .

Yeah , I say top two , and then I would say I would say the advance to be continued . Yeah , I'd say the advancements in technology are going to be beneficial but mostly destructive of civilization . Oh , 100 , 100% .

There has to be a balance of like using technology but also being able to like , use , use your fucking brain and walk around and not have something plugged into you all the time this is everyone's own worst enemy right it is .

If you don't think about it and then it's not on and you're trying to talk to people , so have it , it is what it is . But now , when it comes down to it , I will go one step further and say that it's not the phone that's the problem . It's the applications that we install on the phone .

That's the problem , because if you just use it for its primary functions email , texting , phone calling , facetiming those are the only apps that you put on that phone . Yeah , it's , it's it's smartphone , but it's it's not . It's not the distraction box that it is when you load it up with games , news sites , youtube , music , all different types of stuff .

Yeah , you know , theoretically , I , if this would allow profiles like a computer , I would have loved to have been able to set a work profile and set a relaxation profile , and the relaxation profile has nothing on it except for text , email , phone call and FaceTime .

And the work profile or the daily profile that I have all day until the end of the day could be all of the usual stuff the social sites , the news sites , the notifications , this and that . But I turned off my notifications for almost everything . It just it . It's what we install on and what we allow to come through .

That's the problem , not necessarily I agree I agree you have to run . Is that what it is you have to ? You have to go give her . You have to run to the uh I do have my mom , the jfk okay , however , sammy sie you . I love you too , bro . I'm glad you , I'm glad you dropped in .

Yeah , dude , Truth be told , I had a podcast that was scheduled yesterday and this kind of worked out even more perfect , great talk . Because I was like yo , I'll double up , I'll hit that one tomorrow last night , and then I'll hit this one today . And then , and a chunk of my tooth came out when I was flossing . I went , what tooth ?

My back , on my back , right tooth just came out , bro , chunk of my tooth . Now I had a little hole in in the top of that tooth from grinding , from sleeping , jujitsu like that and I was like , oh , that's not good and like it hurt . No , just came out , chunk of my tooth just came out and I was like , oh , that's not good .

So I walked across the street to my dentist they're literally across the street from my house and they're awesome , they happen to be one of the best dentists on the island and I walked across them and I put the tooth on the counter and I went yeah , it just came out of my mouth . I was flossing Y'all told me to floss , it's on you guys .

And so they saw me and he's30 , dude , he numbed me the fuck up . He goes yeah , we gotta drill this thing . So he drilled and they fully composited it and you know , when you get a filling , you feel like the bump . Every dentist , oh really Every dentist I've ever had , you feel like that difference in tooth size Because it takes some time .

You have to go back . Have them regrind a little bit , bro . Perfect , dude , they're phenomenal . Do that again . Perfect .

Like I'm watching it , I'm getting like three to four subscribers a day . It's pretty cool . Fucking awesome yeah it's starting to feel like more like people are looking and going okay , I fucked with this kid and if you don't fuck with me , it's cool man , y'all can just keep scrolling , don't worry about me . I I appreciate that .

So , on that note , like share , subscribe . We definitely had a great conversation and we will have a third episode and another sit down with Sammy when we can , but I appreciate all your fucking up with us , but for now , peace .