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Risky Business

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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.

Episodes

Risky Business #742 -- China bans AMD and Intel, pivots to Linux on the desktop

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: FVEY protests China’s widespread hacking of western politicians China bans western CPUs, Windows and databases Apple’s leaky M-chip prefetcher Nigeria holds ex-IRS investigator hostage in Binance stoush Researchers bring Rowhammer to AMD Zen and DDR5 And much, much more. This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Its founder Haroon Meer joins this week’s show to make a passionate case that security vendo...

Mar 26, 20241 hr 5 min

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why Azure vulns should get CVEs

In this Soap Box edition of the podcast Patrick Gray talks to Nucleus Security co-founder Scott Kuffer about whether or not cloud service vulnerabilities should get CVEs, what on earth is happening with NIST’s National Vulnerability Database (NVD) and more.

Mar 21, 202434 min

Risky Business #741 -- The Mintlify breach and modern supply chains

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: Turns out AI is still bad code review after all, Mintlify loses a bunch of Github tokens, Everything old is new again with the UDP loop DoS, Know-your-(recon satellite)-customer is hard, Microsoft takes away Russia’s powershell, solving living off the land, And much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Material Security. In this week’s sponsor interview we speak with Material’s Rajan Kapoor, VP of Custo...

Mar 19, 202453 min

Risky Business #740 -- Midnight Blizzard's Microsoft hack isn't over

On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: Weather forecast in Redmond is still for blizzards at midnight Maybe Change Healthcare wasn’t just crying nation-state wolf Hackers abuse e-prescription systems to sell drugs CISA goes above and beyond to relate to its constituency by getting its Ivantis owned VMware drinks from the Tianfu Cup Much, much more This week’s feature guest is John P Carlin. He was principal associate deputy attorney general under Deputy...

Mar 12, 20241 hr 4 min

Risky Business #739 -- ALPHV exit scams while Change Healthcare burns

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: The serious consequences from the Change Healthcare ransomware, and the need for a … nastier response Predator spyware maker getting a stern sanctioning A German military WebEx meeting gets snooped Mem-corrpution is still king And much, much more In this week’s sponsor interview Patrick Gray speaks to Karl McGuinness, Okta’s chief architect, about some new security improvements they’ve built into...

Mar 05, 202459 min

Risky Business #738 -- LockBit is down but not out. Yet.

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: LockBit gets back up after takedown Russia arrests Medibank hacker… for something else ConnectWise gives out free updates, but customers aren’t happy Microsoft gives in to demands for more logs Sandvine gets entity-listed And much much more. Dmitri Alperovitch also joins the show to discuss Starlink, Starshield and a row with Congress about its availability in Taiwan. In this week’s sponsor inter...

Feb 27, 202455 min

Risky Business #737 -- LockBit gets absolutely rekt

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: LockBit has been taken down by law enforcement Some mega-juicy leaks out of Chinese offsec/APT contractor I-SOON GRU gets its Moobot network shutdown Signal adding usernames is… complicated Much, much more In this week’s sponsor interview Devicie’s Tom Plant joins the show to talk about problems orgs run into when it comes to Windows policies. There’s an expectation out there that Windows policie...

Feb 20, 202458 min

Soap Box: A deep dive on how Russia's SVR is hacking Microsoft 365 tenants

The need to properly secure Entra ID tenants has been made pretty obvious this year thanks to a large-scale attack on them by Russia’s SVR intelligence agency. In this interview Andy Robbins from SpecterOps, the maker of Bloodhound Enterprise, talks through how he thinks those attacks actually went down, about how if you’re an o365 customer you’re using Entra ID whether you like it or not, and about how you can lock down your Entra ID tenant....

Feb 18, 202440 min

Risky Business #736 -- Azure misconfigurations are 2024's looming threat

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: Somehow there are still more Ivanti and Fortinet exploits Volt Typhoon have been at it for years Starlink in Ukraine gets complicated Canadians hate poor Flipper Much, much more… In this week’s sponsor interview Feross Aboukhadijeh from Socket joins the show to talk about the sheer volume of malicious packages being committed to code repositories and why older SCA tools aren’t well equipped to de...

Feb 13, 202453 min

Soap Box: How to dismantle Volt Typhoon-style relay networks

In this Soap Box interview Greynoise founder and absolute legend Andrew Morris joins the show to talk about: Why Greynoise hasn’t seen a substantial drop off in Volt Typhoon’s network of compromised routers after the US Government’s takedown action How vendors are using Greynoise as an early warning system to identify exploitation of their products How he’s using large language models to reverse exploitation attempts into actual exploits It truly is a great conversation, we hope you enjoy it!...

Feb 11, 202438 min

Risky Business #735 -- AnyDesk fails the transparency test

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: Thought eels were slippery? Check out AnyDesk’s PR! Why Microsoft’s 365 is a nightmare to secure Cloudflare’s needlessly hostile blog post US Government introduces “Disneyland ban” for spyware peddlers Much, much more… This week’s feature guest is Eric Goldstein, the executive assistant director for cybersecurity at CISA. He’s joining the show to talk about CISA’s demand that US government agenci...

Feb 06, 20241 hr 2 min

Risky Business #734 -- The number of hacked Microsoft 365 customers is skyrocketing

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about: More details on sanctioned Medibank hacker Aleksandr Ermakov More details on alleged Scattered Spider hacker Noah Michael Urban RUMINT that the number of Microsoft customers impacted by the SVR oauth/365 campaign is huge Ron Wyden did something useful… …then did something stupid Ivanti’s clown car collides with dumpster fire Much, much more This week’s feature guest is Australia’s assistant forei...

Jan 30, 20241 hr 2 min

Risky Business #733 -- Say cheese, motherf---er

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. Microsoft honks its clown car horn Australia’s hounds, released, catch their man The beginning of the end for Scattered Spider SEC was SIM swapped but had MFA off any way Ivanti learns a lesson… … while Progress does not and much more DHS undersecretary for policy and Cyber Safety Review Board head Rob Silvers is this week’s feature guest. He joins the show to talk about how the CSRB handles possible conflicts of...

Jan 23, 20241 hr 3 min

Risky Business #732 — We are CRUSHED

On this week’s SURPRISE edition, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: Their disappointment over last week’s SEC Twitter hack China rainbow-tables Airdrop Enterprise bugs galore… … and why patching fast is hard when there isn’t even a patch yet UEFI flaws get trad-BIOS-era vendor response and much, much more… This week’s show is unsponsored, we’re just here for the fun of it. Show notes The SEC’s Official X Account Was ‘Compromised’ and Used to Post Fake Bit...

Jan 16, 202441 min

Risky Business #731 -- SEC Twitter hack moves Bitcoin price

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: SEC Twitter account hack moves bitcoin price Kaspersky admires Triangulation hackers’ fine work Telcos hacked all over Israel hacks Iranian gasoline pumps again Iran up in Albania, Sudan, Egypt and Tanzania and much, much more… This week’s show is brought to you by Nucleus Security. Co-founder Scott Kuffer joins us to talk about why patch management is more nuanced than just “patch fast!” Show notes U...

Jan 09, 20241 hr 5 min

Risky Business #730 -- Apple, Facebook go all in on e2ee

In this week’s edition of the show Patrick Gray and guest co-host Dmitri Alperovitch discuss: Major telco in Ukraine taken down by Russia Apple and Facebook go all in on e2ee Why 702 reauthorisation is looking a bit sketchy The USG wants your push notifications The year in review, plus some predictions for 2024 This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Haroon Meer, Thinkst’s founder, is this week’s sponsor guest. He joins us to talk about APT groups pivoting to living-off-the-land te...

Dec 12, 202357 min

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why enterprise browsers are good, actually

In this Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray talks to Island’s Bradon Rogers about security-focussed, enterprise browsers. You can use Island to do stuff like grant third parties access to corporate applications on unmanaged devices in a not insane way – that’s a huge pain point for a lot of CISOs, and something that is bringing a lot of new customers through Island’s doors. Obviously for devices you do manage, you can roll Island out as your default enterprise browser. Th...

Dec 11, 202334 min

Risky Business #729 -- Why patching faster won't save us

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: Iran-linked attacks on US water infrastructure Why the ownCloud bug isn’t the end of the world The D-Link 0day that… never existed? In defence of Okta Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Proofpoint. Ryan Kalember, Proofpoint’s EVP of Cybersecurity Strategy, is this week’s sponsor guest. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mastodon if ...

Dec 05, 202354 min

Risky Business #728 -- The Citrixbleed ransomware disaster

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: The Citrixbleed ransomware crisis Why the FBI hasn’t arrested Scattered Spider members DPRK is in your supply chains Microsoft has a brainwave and buys a HSM When civil war meets pig butchering Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Airlock Digital. David Cottingham and Daniel Schell are this week’s sponsor guests. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patri...

Nov 28, 20231 hr 5 min

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why o365 and Google Workspace are a security liability

In this Soap Box podcast Patrick Gray talks to Material Security’s CEO and co-founder Abhishek Agrawal about the security problems inherent to modern productivity suites. Does it make sense that threat actors can authenticate to o365 and Workspace accounts and clean them out entirely? Years of mail, years of files? Material Security has built a product that tackles this issue. It can lock up email archives behind MFA challenges, redact PII from inboxes, better control files share via Google Driv...

Nov 15, 202340 min

Risky Business #727 -- Mr Gray goes to Washington

On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks through the news with Chris Krebs and Dmitri Alperovitch. They discuss: The SEC enforcement action against Solarwinds’ CISO The White House AI Executive Order CitrixBleed exploitation goes wide How Kaspersky captured some (likely) Five Eyes iOS 0day Elon Musk’s Gaza Strip adventures Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Greynoise. Andrew Morris, Greynoise’s founder and CEO, is this week’s sponsor guest. He talks about how Greynoise is using ...

Oct 31, 202358 min

Risky Biz Soap Box: Stairwell will offer platform to researchers

In this edition of the Soap Box we hear from Mike Wiacek and Eric Foster from Stairwell. Stairwell makes a product that collects and analyses every executable file in your environment. You deploy file collectors to your systems and they forward all new files to Stairwell for manual and automated analysis. You can do a lot of really cool analysis once you have all that stuff in the same place. But as you’ll hear, Stairwell is broadening out the use cases for its platform. You don’t want to forwar...

Oct 29, 202330 min

Risky Business #726 -- Okta owned while Cisco takes a massive L

On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks through the news with Dmitri Alperovitch, NSA Cybersecurity director Rob Joyce and NSA CCC director Morgan Adamski. They discuss: The Okta breach 40-50k feral Ciscos Why the http/2 protocol flaw is a real headache The Ragnar Locker takedown What the NSA CCC has been thinking about This week’s show is brought to you by Socket. Socket’s founder Feross Aboukhadijeh joins us this week to talk about their actually-not-crazy use of large language models in their ...

Oct 24, 202357 min

Risky Biz Soap Box: Preventing MFA reset attacks

Patrick Gray speaks to Yubico’s Jerrod Chong about how organisations can better verify the identities of users when performing MFA resets. In other words, how to not get MGM’d. He also talks about the chain-of-trust issues inherent to synchronisable passkey implementations.

Oct 12, 202331 min

Risky Business #725 -- Microsoft knifes VBScript, passkeys the new default for Google accounts

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Lina Lau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: Microsoft has killed VBScript Google to make passkeys the new default sign-in method MGM losses to exceed $100m Clorox has a bad quarter Why a bug in cURL could be really bad news Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by KSOC. Jimmy Mesta, KSOC’s co-founder and CTO, is this week’s sponsor guest. He talks to us about how we can start applying real, actual IAM to Kubernetes environments. Show n...

Oct 10, 202344 min

Risky Business #724 -- Exploitation moves away from Microsoft, Google and Apple products

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: Ransomware crews target WS_FTP and Jetbrains servers Global energy supply shapes up as big target The Dossier Center drops another banger Indian nationalists DDoS Canadian targets A look at the Exim drama Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Kroll Cyber. George Glass is this week’s sponsor guest. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mas...

Oct 03, 202355 min

Risky Business #723 -- MGM and Caesars: Western youths are working with ransomware gangs

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Dmitri Alperovitch discuss the week’s security news. They cover: How western youths are working with Russian ransomware crews Russia has changed its targeting in Ukraine A massive breach of historical Russian flight information is god’s gift to OSINT orgs Cisco buys Splunk for $28bn Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Panther. Its field CISO Ken Westin is this week’s sponsor guest. Links to everything that we discussed are below. Show notes ...

Sep 27, 202357 min

Snake Oilers: Sublime Security, VulnCheck and Devicie

In this edition of Snake Oilers you’ll hear product pitches from: Sublime Security: e-mail security for people who want to tune their detections VulnCheck: Provides vulnerability intelligence to governments, large enterprises and vendors Devicie: Manage your devices with Intune without pulling your hair out Show notes sublime.security VulnCheck - Outpace Adversaries Cloud-native device management platform | Devicie...

Sep 21, 202339 min

Risky Business #722 -- Microsoft embraces Zero Trust... Authentication?

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and Lina Lau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: Microsoft’s 38TB oopsie MGM’s Okta compromised, was this what Okta was warning us about? Why we need a cyber knife fight Google Authenticator sync abused in the wild Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Push Security. Co-founder Adam Bateman is this week’s sponsor guest. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Mastodon if that’s ...

Sep 19, 202359 min

Risky Business #721 -- Why Storm-0558's Microsoft hack should have failed

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover: How Storm-0558 stole Microsoft’s signing key Cisco 0day being used by ransomware crews We were right about Elon stumbling into the Ukraine war Someone’s amazing image library 0day just got crushed Much, much more! This week’s show is brought to you by Nucleus Security. Co-founder Scott Kuffer is this week’s sponsor guest. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Ad...

Sep 12, 202358 min