Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of relationships rule. I have a super special guest with me today. Her name is Joanne bolt. And she is somebody that I love it I met through referrals really somebody else who had been on my podcast a very long time ago, but I was taking one of her programs, Stacy brown Randall, a great woman and super referral person introduced me to Joanne and I'm so glad that she did. So first of all, welcome to the show. Joanne.
Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited to be here.
My pleasure. And and that's what I love the most is about referrals and connecting with people and people knowing that they're your kind of person and those kinds of things. Do you how do you operate your business that way as well?
Oh, 100% referrals, I've every business I've ever been in or run. I'm just not a cold call person. I'm not a go out and just hunt business person, I may form relationships, girl and let the business unfold through that. And that's
what probably what I loved about you in the first place. Tell my audience a little bit about you, Joanne, tell us, you know what you do now and maybe even how you got there would be kind of fun. Sure.
So my name is Joanne bolts. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. I started my career 20 plus years ago, we won't really talk about how long ago as a real estate agent, which is where I learned to perfect the art of the referral based business. During that time. I also ran sorority recruitment nationally for my sorority, where I taught other women how to talk to people in a great referral kind of way to get them
to join the sorority. And then in COVID, year 2020 2021, I shifted into the online world of podcasting, and started to share my gifts and my joy and my story through the art of podcasting. And then really just learned that, you know, at the end of the day, podcasting is another form of referral based business. And so it was a natural flow for me. And that is what I'm doing now is I host the B word podcast, and I have a community called podcast her.
Fantastic. So I have to first of all, ask, what sorority were you in Sigma Kappa? Wouldn't that have been weird if we were in the same sorority?
What were you in alpha C? O Alpha fee? Yeah, I was at the University of Georgia. So we had I think, 20 of 26 National sororities. And then when I ran it, nationally, I joined the, you know, I joined the, you know, the head, like the team, for the National recruitment team, and I'd be bopped all across the country, going to various chapters that we have that were struggling and helping them and struggle.
Interesting. And that would be another whole topic someday, because sororities I'm in Canada, right. And I think it's run a little bit differently here. But I didn't realize that I know how huge that the Greek organization has been in university. So I just wondered if it still is, you know, today with everything different the ways,
certainly not what it was, but I think it's still as powerful. It just looks a little bit different. Yeah,
exactly. But I think the whole thing about anything like that is joining something to belong to be part of the campus to be part of something whether it's, you know, some people need it, some people, it's a leadership thing, whatever. Anyway, with this, another whole topic. Let's talk, let's talk about, actually, I have to read this, if you may, because so far, it speaks to your sense of humor and what I love about your Southern way, okay, because I'm so not, I'm
like the North. I have a friend in Georgia, who lives in a small town outside Atlanta, I think, as well. And I see her all the time at at SendOutCards conventions, and I follow her, you know, her things on Facebook and stuff. And I just love to listen to her talk because she has some great expressions. And I'm sure that you do too, just because of being in the south. So this is what you said. I love the hat. Mom, I wear it proudly. I laughing I laughingly say I'm snarky, and I am a little
sarcastic. A little sweet. A little. Well, Beth Dutton. And of course, I know who she is on Yellowstone. For those of you who don't know, and Rebecca Well, love her TED lasso, best character on the show, all rolled into one. And I just love that you have put that together there because I think it's so cool. And so the transition from being a realtor to being a podcast, your podcast host, but your podcast trainer as well. You teach other people how to start podcasts. Am I correct?
I don't necessarily teach them how to start it. I do that once a year in a boot camp that I do. What I really do is I help them take that Little podcasts that they may or may not have started and turn it into a marketing machine for their business. That's right. Because what I have learned throughout the years is a in a business, you have to market B relationships, no pun intended role in the form of marketing for your business and see a podcast rolls all that into one. Yes,
now. Okay. It's been a while since we spoken and, and I remember in listening to a couple of your episodes, that was something that oh, yeah, I watched how you, you've done little mini episodes, many topics that you've put into like a special edition of your podcast that I've never even thought about before. So I thought that was really interesting. And so you've got some great ideas around how to make it really, in some cases, a person's actual primary
business, right? The podcast is the primary this
I mean, that's the ultimate goal, right, is to get that podcast to where you don't have the other business or your other businesses running on autopilot. And really, you're just podcasting. I say, just out of my language. Yeah. You're podcasting is the main marketing median, to bring in the revenue into your world.
Yeah. Which is so fun, because it's just I love talking to people and interviewing people. Now. In your case, I know that you do a lot of solo episodes, correct?
I do. I really, what I have found through the years is I love to talk to people. I also love those quick hits that dopamine rush of getting a little bit of information that you can quickly implement into your business.
And that's something people ask me for all the time. So I do some solo episodes where I just give you one to three tips on or how to or something you hadn't thought about to take an implement into your business and you can listen to them in 20 minutes or less, and then die then on your own.
How many podcasts Do you listen to in a week?
Oh my gosh, I think I have 20 on my regular rotation. And then I bebop in and out of other ones. So my kids always laugh because the other moms in carpool line are picking their you know, kiddos up from school and they're listening to country music or Christian music or whatever, you know, sports talk, I am on listening to podcasts all the time. And it's it's gotten to where even my my daughter? Yeah,
she'll grab, you know, she'll get into the car sometimes. And she'll be like, Ah, you're listening to Stacy brown Randall again. Or oh, Jenna Kutcher, because she knows like, I listened to some of that same podcast over and over and over again. Because you feel like you know, these people, they become a part of your world. And so I just need to listen to my girls. Yeah.
I love it. That's so true. I've actually gone off on a tangent myself. And I'm not listening to any what I would call educational podcasts for me at the moment I'm I'm just, I don't know, I think I'm almost finished all of the episodes that are there on smartlace.
Do you know that well, so I think for me, I am very likely in my home to have music play and throughout the house all day long. Yes. But when I'm in the car, I'm either going to listen to a book on Audible. And when I discovered how much I love to listen to a book on Audible, it was pretty natural for me to move into the Now just listen to podcasts that are educational. One of my girlfriends is really big into listening to true crime. I haven't quite gone that route
yet. But maybe on the next long car ride trip. I will.
Yeah, I've listened to a couple of those that were quite interesting. And I think because I had a period in time when I was reading True Crime books and and rural and she was amazing. And so I started I've listened to a few true crime. But um, what about a con artist? That was amazing, actually. Yeah.
Be interesting.
Yeah. Con artists. They're fascinating because they're so smart. Because they're able to con you. They're just so smart. Anyway, so that's a sideline, but I know there's so many podcasts, right. There are so many podcasts, but there's, you know, do you do you notice and I guess I'm going this route because I'm interested in podcasts too, of course and I love podcasting. Do you can you right away tell if it's good or not good. When you start listening to a podcast?
Oh, yeah. So what? Yeah, by what by the just the tone of the, the questioning or the tone of the the voice that the hosts have. I
love it. Yeah, I think a lot of podcasters don't really realize because they sit oftentimes in our homes in a studio. We're not live so we're talking into a microphone, or we're talking like this on a zoom. And they don't realize that sitting up up, having that energy, bringing everything you've got as if you were on a stage doing a keynote talk is really critical. Yeah, it's less for me about the quality of your recording. I will give someone a lot of grace if I listened to
them the first time. And the recording is echoey. Or, you know, they're struggling with their microphones, because chances are, they don't know yet how to make it better. And or they're just having an off day on their equipment. We've all had that. So I will give them grace on that. And then keep listening to see if I like the quality and the tone and what
comes out of the episode. But I can quickly tell you, I mean, probably in the first two minutes of listening to someone if their energy is one I want to listen to if I mean, honestly, this sounds really bad, but I've had people not listen to me because they don't like my southern accent. And that's fine. How can they not like that, but I mean, that's fine. There's, there's people whose voice tones I don't like either. And you have to think about podcasting, like developing that
friendship, that relationship. If you really just emotionally do not enjoy listening to them, you're never going to dive into what they're saying and how they're saying it females will click off and go on to a different podcast. So yes, I can tell very quickly for me, whether I like a podcast or not. And
do you find yourself? Or does it matter if you're listening to one that's an interview, or one that's just the host talking, it really
is all about what I'm there to hear and the value that I'm getting from that podcast. And a lot of podcast hosts, you know, they start their podcast, because they just want to talk about stuff where they want to like sell into their business. And I think that we often forget that the podcast is not about us as the host. It's about the listener and what they need to hear and what they need to get and the relationship
they need to build with you. And so if your relationship you need to build with them comes from bringing in guests, experts, showcasing great stories through interview telling, then do an interview type podcast, if what they need to get from you is your expertise and what you know, and the tips and tricks that you can bring into them. Then I say do solo episodes or do a combination. As long as you're pretty consistent with how you're doing your episodes and people know what to expect,
then you're okay. What I don't want to hear is someone who one day does a solo about fitness and the next day has a guest expert about dog training and the next day does a solo about you know clothing shopping like I have no idea what what you're talking about. And so I don't have a reason to stay tuned to you.
Right. Very good point. Absolutely. I say gonna say I lost my train of thought. Oh, yes.
And for me, a lot of times it does come back to just what are you feeling when you're listening to it? You know, I listen to Jenna Kutcher, the gold digger her podcast a lot. Is Jenna teaching me anything in her episodes on Pinterest? Probably not. I am quite the Pinterest person myself. Is she teaching me anything when she's talking
about building an email list? Probably not. But her tone and the way she talks to you feels like I've got a business bestie in the car next to me, and we are discussing business tactics together. So I'll listen to her.
That's a that's a an asset for sure that she has developed
very well. Absolutely. Great storyteller.
Yeah. And there's the key right there, right. Being a storyteller. I find that for me. I like to hear from my audience. People that I know will give me feedback, right? And they'll tell me and, and this episode was great, because or this episode lacked a little bit because or whatever. And, and I like that, because they're all different. And it's all actually based for me on how I'm feeling, but also how I connect
with the guests. And I have had situations where I didn't know the person and I really didn't know how to get past that initial piece with them even. Even though and I always do this. I don't like to go blind into a podcast. I like to have met the person at least once. Just to get a sense. Yeah, you too. Yeah. I think that's important. But I always want to make sure that I can spotlight you spotlight the guest because that's what I want you on here so I can share your zone of
genius with my audience as well. Because I think that's important. And that's part of what I'm doing. I want people in my world to meet the new people in my world, I think because I think I can connect people and that's what I love to do. In fact, I just remember that I was going to connect you with somebody and I haven't yet so that I thought you should meet I remember the last time we talked. So how do you feel
about? And you don't have to know names needed here. But how do you feel about podcasts that because I think I'm doing one this week as a guest podcasters who have specific the same questions that they ask every single time.
You know, it's like, Okay, roll with me on this analogy. It's like buying jeans. At the core of it, a pair of jeans is the same from every single brand, at the core of it. But I might like the way that one particular brand fits versus another particular brand. Or I might like the price point of the gap versus the price point of free people, as accompanies
right. Podcasts are very much the same way. So for me personally, if you're getting into interviewing, and it is the same format, and it is the same questions every single time, just a different person answering them, I might listen to one or two, and then I'm out. I'm not interested any longer. However, much like jeans fit everyone differently with the different brands, there's a different flavor for everyone.
If your ideal listener is someone who likes the structure, they like knowing that you know what's going to come next, what's going to come next how long your episode is going to be when you know, they like that order to things and what you're answering is fulfilling their ultimate reason why they're
listening. It's a great format. If you as a host or someone who's not a good refer, you really need to follow predawn stuff, then, then that's the right format for you to take because you can be consistent and comfortable when you're doing that. No, I will tell you because I'm more of a off the cuff. Give me the riff, let's just chat like girlfriends kind of girl. I like listening to those podcasts the best. I also
like being on this podcast the best. You know, I've been asked to be on podcasts before, and then they've sent me you know, the 10 questions they want me to answer. And I'm like, no. Okay, you're not the right podcast for me to be on. If you need me to predefine all my answers. I'm out. Yeah, because I know, I'm not gonna give your audience what they're looking for. You know, I'm just not that structured in my responses. And so, you know, for me, personally, I don't like the
structured ones. But you know, like I said, for some people, it fits great. Yeah,
fair, very neutral answer.
I mean, and I'm not actually trying to be neutral. It's gonna know I use honest truth. You know, like, there, there is one that I love. And I will tell you, because I don't mind saying it because he is a fantastic person. John Lee, do you do most JLD entrepreneurs on fire? I think he's a fantastic person. I don't enjoy listening to his podcast very often, because he's very structured. He has questions he's going to act like you know what you're getting with JL these podcast?
That? I mean, do I tune in occasionally? Sure. Is it one I keep on my regular rotation? No, because it doesn't fit my personality. But clearly, with the amount of podcast episodes that you know, in downloads he has. He's meeting somebody's personality. So those people are out there. Yeah, he
was one of the first and he he is has become very successful.
Oh, yeah. You can't tell to get what he does. Yeah. But
that was the one that came to mind for me in that. But that's, I can, I can handle it with him. But again, I'm like you not all the time. But there are people who I find hide behind that. And they need to just realize that they could do it themselves. They don't need to, you know, right. So and yet I was on a podcast, actually, the other day this woman had sent me she said 20 minutes. Here's the four questions that I'm going to ask. And they were, they were four
questions that weren't the same for everybody. She tailored them to me. But when she asked them to me, and when we spoke, she managed to make it real and conversational, and it was great. And she did a good job. So I
guess I think that's fine. You know, she has that ability. But yeah, so Well, okay, let me let me specify the ones I turned down are the ones that send me a list of questions, and want me to fill the answers out and send it back prior to the interview. Yep. Oh, my God. I'm not your person. Yeah, I'm just not.
I totally agree. That's totally the same. So I don't know why, but I'm struggling with some questions for you this morning. And I think
it's too early.
Because you're, you're a podcaster. I don't know. But what I want to ask you now is just to go off track for a second and tell me what you do. I know what I want to say. I wanted to say that from that conversation just now about not liking those structured types of things. And yet I sense from you, with our former conversations, that you're very organized and structured in your business and in am, yeah, that that is where you are very, you know what you want, you know
where you're going. And I love that.
I have systems for everything. My spreadsheets have spreadsheets. My calendar is very structured out. But there's also I'm I'm a creative, right podcast host by nature are creatives. We don't think of that initially. Because we think creatives are people that are on Instagram all day long, or, you know, painting or, you know, creating music. No, a podcast host is a creative just in the digital online world in a different way. Right? So what do you have to leave that space for
the creativity to flow? You know, like, I but I know for me, like, if I'm gonna sit down and start outlining an episode for a podcast, I have to schedule it into my morning time and not my afternoon. That's when I'm at my most creative. But I do like to have things calendar and organized. That being said, when it comes to the actual Speaking of things, actually doing my podcast, you won't hear me reading a script, you'll you know, I will have bullet points written out, like what do I want
to touch on? But I'm an off the cuff speaker. And so I know that about me when it comes to interviewing and being on a podcast, but when it comes to the details of the business, I'm very structured.
Yeah, that's why you were successful in your last business and why you'll be successful in this newer in this new business for sure. So when you're not working, and I think you work a lot when you're not working, what are you doing?
I am most likely on my back deck, having a glass of wine, watching some show on Netflix because I love a good TV show. I really do. I am a junkie for TV shows. Give me a good Downton Abbey you know the Gilded Age, I will sit and binge that sucker all day long. Or I'm hanging out with my kids, you know, taking them to swim practice baseball practice. Something like that. But honestly, if it's a Saturday afternoon, I'm on the porch with a glass of wine in the evenings.
I like to cook I am I believe I will watch Food Network all day long. And then DoorDash whatever I needed to make a recipe and then go and I will spend hours in the kitchen cooking. I
lately I've been obsessed with Instagram chefs cooking and whenever and every time yeah, great videos, I save them and then I have to copy the recipe and I've been doing that lately, which is kind of fun. Especially during the summer because they were some great salads on there. And I love to
where I'm currently obsessed with butternut squash. So my 13 year old has asked me to not have it in any meals anytime soon because I finding ways to put in pasta or cream sauces or salads or Yeah, I'm a butternut squash season.
funny because I had a recipe that came out me on Instagram for butternut squash soup. And then this you'll have to share it with me bro and this amazing sourdough bread grilled cheese sandwich to go with it. Yes, please. So I went I went all I've got to butternut squash this in the fridge and then we
had Thanksgiving here. It's Canada. Last Monday was Thanksgiving here and I didn't get to the butternut squash because we had the turkey dinner and everything else so and anyway, it's still in the fridge but I'll send you that recipe because it's Yes, please. But so funny because I
made a ravioli filled Gouda squash the other day and I'm proud to say myself it was
homemade ravioli. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like
I say I like to cook I really enjoy from scratch, start to finish all the things and probably for me, that's one of the best things about what I do is you know, I went into real estate thinking it was going to be so flexible. And if you're not watching this podcast, I'm air quoting, so flexible, much like many real estate agents do. And then you
realize it's not flexible at all. Because when you have to be out with your clients or when they're not at work, yeah, which means it's your evenings, it's your weekends, you know, and then you're doing all the stuff that goes along with a contract. And you're dealing with lenders and closing attorneys and title attorneys and inspectors will they only work during the work
day so you are legitimately working at all times. And then when I got into podcasting, I discovered oh my gosh, I really can put an episode together, put the blog together, do the freebie do all the things be done by 12 o'clock, and then go spend my time in the kitchen if I want. So, for me, podcasting opened up a whole new world of flexibility.
Nice. How do you feel about the fact that there are so many podcasts now like it's just exploded. What would you say? What do you say to people who you know, think they want to start a podcast, and they have no idea like,
I would say, evaluate whether it's right for you in your business, do not start a podcast thinking you're going to be able to monetize a podcast. Unless you've got a million followers on Instagram and your social media is just begging, that's not going to happen for about five years. What you do with a podcast is create a podcast to actually sell into your business. And when you can marry the two of
those together, you've hit the sweet spot. But if you aren't someone who can be consistent, you don't have topics you can talk about a lot. And all you're going to do on a podcast is come across with commission breath buy from me buy from me buy for me, it's not the right avenue for you. Now, my opinion on there being 8 million out there, I come out of a world of real estate, girlfriend in Atlanta, you can pretty much throw a tennis ball, it'll bop someone on the head, who's an agent
bounce off her head and hit three more on its way down. So I come out of an industry that is oversaturated. And it really all is about forming relationships, getting to know your ideal customer, meeting them where they need you. It's the same concept in podcasting, there are 20,000 podcasts that all talk about marketing, or podcasting or email list or, you know, some of the topics that I discussed, right. And here's the thing,
people are going to listen to five or six of them. And that's okay, they'll take a tidbit from here, or tidbit from there a tidbit from there. But if I'm the one that they find the most value out of there, I'm the one that they think they know me the best, I'm the one they enjoy the most. When it comes time for my offer to drop, it could be the same offer that my competitor has, they're still going to purchase from me. So I'm okay with it. Okay, so
that's interesting. Let's just talk about that for a second. So when it comes time for your offer to drop, so in your podcast, let's say Do you drop once a week, by the way, is, um, twice a week now? Twice a week? Okay. So do you have like a, you know, a cycle of a few weeks, where you're, you're going to talk about a product on your show, and then it becomes available? What do you mean by that, when you say I've
gotten very good at the podcast sales funnel, which means if I look eight weeks out, and I know that I'm going to open up, say, a new digital course or entry into my network that I have formed, or, you know, we just finished doing press record, which is a once a year bootcamp that I do for
people to learn how to create a podcast. Then, in the weeks cycling up to that, I'm going to stick to my same format of podcasts, I'm going to stick to my same content pillars that I talked about, but there'll be a little bit more geared toward, but I'm getting you primed and ready for, you know, so if my next course coming out is all about lead magnets and creating this powerful lead magnet for your business, which FYI it is, then you're going to hear me start to discuss what a lead
magnet is how you can use it in your business, how you can develop one for free, I might give you a free lead magnet like I'm going to start to discuss the concept of lead magnets for you in your business. So that when I then say, Oh, by the way, my new course on creating this fabulous lead magnet has just dropped your you're gonna raise your hand because I have just given you so many tools for lead magnets. It's a natural yes for you. But during those episodes leading up, have you ever heard
me say anything about the upcoming course? No. That's commission breath. What I'm doing is teaching you what the concept is, how to use it in your business, why it's important for your business. And then I'll invite you in and say, Listen, I can help you out with this. But if not, we're gonna go on to the next thing. And I'm really good at cycling that throughout my sales cycle on the podcast. Yeah,
I think that is one of your sweet spots for sure. And, and something that I'm just learning. So you know, because I've decided, just actually decided probably halfway through this year that it was time to step up with my podcast and make something else happen and do some things a little bit differently or try some different things. So for 2024 That's, that's the plan. But yeah, so learning what I can from people like us been really good, and I really appreciate
it. And but but I never feel that I'm like commission breath, but I don't think I use my platform as well as I could. And so maybe that you know, how do you feel about be building your audience were like, is there a strategic way to build your audience? Absolutely.
You building your audience is all about care. Creating visibility and credibility. And you know that with the recoverability, here's all my abilities. But your audience will naturally grow over time and you want to buffer it, you want to help it along, much like you would your toddlers naturally going to learn to walk, but you're going
to help them learn to a wall. The more you build your credibility in the space of knowing your ish about your industry, the more a the content you talk about gets easier and easier and easier. When you're not all over the place. When you really hone it in on teaching others or showcasing others in your industry to your consumer, they'll start seeing you as the goat the greatest of all times the one who has the answers
about XYZ. And as you build that credibility, they'll start leaving the reviews, they'll start hopping into your email list. And that's really where the money comes from, is your your email list. It's really not the Podcast, the podcast is the way for them to fall in love with you is your welcome that into your world, then we bring them in with a lead magnet, or we get them onto our you know, our email list. We nurture them throughout that and a different and more magical way, and then
we sell to them. And that's when it becomes that easy. Yes, for them. You know, like if they want to be coached about referrals, if they want to build a referral business, they're gonna go to Stacey brown Randall, they've been listening to her because she talks all about referrals all the time, right? You know, if they want to learn from you about LinkedIn and using it to do referrals, you talk about it a lot. And so when you put that offer out, it becomes very easy for you to
sell it because you've been credible. Here's the thing about building that audience though. You know, if I'm sitting around talking to someone in my business, about LinkedIn, and referrals and things of that nature, it is very natural for me to say, oh my god, you should listen to Janice's podcast and share it with her. Right. And really, it's just about teaching your audience to do that, to share you with their friends who need a specific episode to hear. Yeah,
that's awesome. I love that. Yeah, you're full of wisdom, full of good,
good, like these little bitty strategies.
I love it. I love that's, for me, those those are the things that they're the gold nuggets, right that people leave for my audit. And you
know, I think a lot of business owners and here's a great tip for your audience, they get overwhelmed by how many options they have. It's so simple. It's hard. I mean, I say this all the time. It is so simple. It's hard. If you are listening to a million podcasts, and they're given you a million different strategies, just pick one. Pick one that aligns with you the best that you think you can get behind that you think you can master. Every skill set is a muscle that has to be honed
and toned. So get the one that you want to like try out for a while see if you can make it work for you. And then and then ignore the rest. Yeah, don't worry about 600 lead magnets, you only need one to two that are really good for your business. But heck, if you love producing one for every podcast, you know a download, go for it if that's your jam, and that's what you're good at. There's a zillion strategies, pick one or two that you like and just hone them and
you and be truthful with yourself, you know what works for you and what you like, and you're going to be comfortable for you. So for sure. Well, coming to a close, I'm going to ask you two questions. One is a two part question. This is my my favorite word is curiosity. And the two part question one, do you believe that curiosity is innate? Or learned? And part two? What are you most curious about today?
I believe that curiosity is innate. The part of it that is learned is for you to figure out what you're actually curious about. And what I'm curious about today is what is stopping other people from taking their podcast to the next level? Because for me, I think it's naturally XYZ, when I'm learning from other people is there are a lot of other roadblocks that I never even considered for them starting
one. So that's what I'm curious about today. And what I mean by the the learning piece of curiosity is you may think you're curious about something, but you may not actually be learning what you're actually curious about. And then diving deep into that, like, that's where the secret sauce is, I
think. Okay, awesome.
Thank you for that really roundabout answer. So I'm sorry. That's literally how my brain works. That's
okay. Um, do you are your kids curious?
I have one who's very curious and one who's very black and white. That's just like, No, my black and white kiddo is he's only curious if it interests him. If not, he's out. Don't ask him questions. And the other one is my more creative child. And so she's more like, oh, what? Well, you told me that one plus one equals two. Hmm, why? Let's talk about that. Let's dive into it. One plus one. I couldn't ever equal three. And so my curious one that I've
got Same with me to two daughters, but same one is one isn't. Okay, last question. Really just what would you like to leave with my audience as your best business tip or whatever comes to mind at the moment, my
best business tip is get it on record. Whatever you're doing for your business, record it, put it on video, get behind a microphone, you may hate seeing yourself on YouTube, you may hate the sound of your voice. But at some point in your business, you may need some of that, and you may need it to
come back to so get everything on record. That way when and if you decide to start a YouTube channel, or an Instagram account or a podcast, you've got material, and you're not feeling so overwhelmed about things so every single day in your business, get recorded somehow, and then figure out how to use it.
Great advice. Thanks, Joanne. Now how can my audience find you?
Oh my gosh, they can find me on Instagram at it's Joanne bolt, or on Facebook podcast. Her is my company. I exist to help women podcasters make more money and their overall business. I've actually just opened up a network for female podcast post where it's all we're doing is helping them grow their audience their credibility, their visibility to create some profitability. So podcast her at its Joanne bolt. Those are my my two spots are hanging out in the most.
Okay, perfect. So we will put that in the show notes. Perfect, and I appreciate your time and all your work today. Me. Well, my pleasure. And to my audience. Thanks for being here again. And if you like what you heard, please go check out Joanne's podcast, the B word podcast check out her website as well and her and on Instagram at it's Joanne it's joined both right or it's just yeah.
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