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Meet Your Reiki Guides: Uncovering the Spiritual Helpers Supporting Your Practice with Robyn Benelli

Jun 10, 20231 hr 23 minSeason 3Ep. 19
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Join our guest, Robyn Benelli, as she unravels the hidden world of Reiki guides and provides invaluable insights on how to connect with and harness the wisdom of these celestial beings.

Explore the diverse manifestations of these guides, from angels to ascended masters, animal spirits, and beyond, and discover how they can amplify your healing abilities and expand your connection to Reiki energy.

Robyn also reveals techniques, meditations, and practices to help you establish a direct connection with your own Reiki guides. Uncover the secrets of intuitive guidance, learn how to interpret signs and synchronicities, and gain practical tools to deepen your spiritual journey and enhance your Reiki practice.

Whether you're a seasoned Reiki practitioner seeking to deepen your connection with your guides or a curious beginner looking to explore the mystical side of energy healing, this episode offers a rich tapestry of spiritual wisdom and practical guidance. Embark on this voyage of self-discovery, empowerment, and enlightenment, and unlock the limitless potential that awaits you when you open your heart and mind to the guidance of your Reiki guides.

Robyn Benelli is a Usui/Holy Fire III Karuna Reiki Master, Reiki Practitioner, teacher, and co-author and teacher of ICRT Animal Reiki training. Robyn has been a Reiki master for over 15 years, a professional member of the Reiki Membership Association, and a contributing author for Reiki News Magazine. 

Get in Touch with Robyn:  at ReikiLifestyle.com.  Her social media is @RobynBenelliReiki. 


Pam Allen-LeBlanc is a scientist, a businesswoman, and a Licensed Reiki Master Teacher (LRMT) with the International Center for Reiki Training.  She is the author of "The Reiki Business Book" and a co-author of ICRT Animal Reiki training.  Pam teaches Reiki, Animal Reiki, and Animal Communication online and in person in Canada, the US, and Australia.

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Transcript

Hi and welcome to the Reiki from the Farm podcast brought to you by me, Pam Allen LeBlanc from Hidden Brook Farm. I am a scientist, a businesswoman, and a licensed Reiki master teacher with the International Center for Reiki Training. Each week in this podcast, you'll be entertained as you learn about a wide variety of relevant Reiki topics, helping you become a more knowledgeable and effective Reiki practitioner.

We caution you, though, this podcast may also dramatically improve your life, and we are so happy that you're here.

Pam

Hi, everyone. I just wanted to let you know that you asked and we listened. You have been asking for us to run a course around the Reiki business book in order to give you a better opportunity to get your own businesses off the ground. We decided to start with chapter five, marketing.

We felt that by offering a three week intensive course over three evenings, We would In June, three Monday evenings in June, starting June 12th, the 19th, and then the 26th, we would be able to help you get yourselves set up to get your marketing in place this summer. So you'd be ready to hit the ground running in the fall when people are looking for marketing solutions. If this sounds like It's something you would be interested in.

Be sure to click the link below in the podcast and in the newsletter and join us. And if you can join us for our Reiki share this coming Tuesday, where we will explain it all to you. Space is limited. So be sure to sign up soon. If this is for you, I hope you can join us. Thanks. All right.

On this week's podcast, we are talking with Robin Bennelli about spirit guides, what they are, why you might want to work with them, and at the end of the podcast, we're even going to lead you on a guided meditation or a journey so that you can discover who your spirit guides are. And if you already know them, you can have a lovely visit with them. And so welcome Robin, I'm so glad

Robyn

you're here. Yeah. Hi, Pam. Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here. Oh, I'm glad you're

Pam

here. Just to introduce you to my friend, Robin, we are co authors of the Animal Reiki course. And so for two and a half years, we were working together almost every Friday afternoon myself and Robin, Colleen Benelli, and Sue Strong, and it was bittersweet. When that ended because I don't know, I, we wanted to get the Reiki animal Reiki out into the world for others, but it meant we haven't been meeting every week as we had for such a long time. I was excited to have you on the podcast, Robin.

Yeah,

Robyn

it was such a special time. Like I, I agree. It's bittersweet because, it does free up our Friday afternoon. Yes. Yes. Time. It was such an honor to be a part of that process and to really just spend that time together. I just feel like we, obviously with Colleen, who's my mom, yeah, I know her well, and I know Sue well, but we got to know each other so well, and just spend so much time in that energy in that process. And speaking of spirit guides, just what you Yeah. What?

Yeah. Divine animal kingdom brought helped us bring through and it was a really beautiful time and process. So I do miss it as well.

Pam

I love it. Before we begin, and before I introduce Robin properly, I just wanted to let you know that we do have some wonderful whale classes coming up this summer. Thank In Campobello. And so I do have a level one and two in master class, but we are going to go whale watching around that if you'd like. You don't have to, and that'll be both online and in person. We also have an online and in person animal Reiki class over a weekend.

And then the following week, and that's at the end of July, the beginning of August, the following week, I'm doing something strange. I'm doing an animal Reiki class in over Masterclass over four evenings. And the reason I'm doing it that way is so that my Australian students and my Asian students who can't be there during the North American time zone, they can join us. And in addition, anybody who wants to come in person will have the whole day to explore the island.

And even if you're joining us online, you'll have the day to yourself and we'll do four evenings. And I also have in. September, an Animal Reiki 1 and 2 in Masterclass. And again, we will be going out with the whales. The whales arrive in Campobello about the beginning of July. The humpbacks, though, don't get there until August. So if you Our real fan of humpbacks, the minkies and finbacks will be there before the humpbacks will be there later on. You may want to do the September class.

Although they might, they should be there as we're doing the masterclass at least as well. So hopefully you can join us. And then in October, I've got a full A full range of classes. And I also want to give a little shout out to the international Reiki retreat, which will be happening Labor Day weekend in Arizona. I believe they still have a few spots available to join the retreat. So if you haven't registered, it will be selling out soon.

I'm looking forward to presenting at the retreat and would love to see you there, Robin. Do you and Colleen have anything coming up in the next bit you'd like to chat

Robyn

about? Yeah. So Colleen is my mother, Colleen Benelli, and we are co owners of Reiki Lifestyle. So that's who Pam is referring to. And we work together there. We also teach animal Reiki online every other month for the most part. And Colleen teaches human Reiki one and two. Master and Karuna Reiki. But the one thing that I really, actually there's two things that I really wanted to mention, but one of the things is we actually have a weekly distance Reiki share online.

It's every single Tuesday morning from 9 30 a. m. Pacific to 11 a. m. Pacific. That's free and it is open to all experience levels. So even if you're just you know, you're not attuned to Reiki, you're welcome to come. And we also really like to keep it stress free. So if you have to come in late, if you need to leave early you can do all of that. And like I said, it's every Tuesday morning. So to find out more about that, you can go to reikilifestyle.

com and you can go to I think it's under the community tab, or it might be distance share tab. I should know that. Sorry. The distance Reiki share, you do have to sign up on the list because we send out a zoom link every week. And it's for security reasons we don't do the same one. So we don't end up with zoom bombers but it's just a really beautiful community we've been doing it weekly, every single week we haven't missed a day.

A Tuesday, sometimes you know Colleen is gone or I'm gone but we do it every single Tuesday since March of 2020. So it's going on over three years now and it's amazing we love it. We usually have anywhere from. About it's always around 100 people, give or take, so it's a big community. You can come with your video off. It's totally casual.

And so that was the big thing that I wanted to announce because I know a lot of people are looking for community that may not have it in their town or their families. And it's online. So that was the big thing that I wanted to announce. And then the other thing is just that we have a podcast too. So that's called the podcast. We We release two episodes a week. So you can find that on all the podcast channels and then two every week.

Yeah. So we're releasing a guest every Monday or calling and I sometimes will, have a podcast where we're just an episode where her and I are just talking. And then we are taking the information that we talk about and the meditations that we do in the distance Reiki share because every. We do like a Reiki talk about a Reiki subject and we do a guided meditation or guided Reiki journey. And so we release those on Thursdays because not everybody's able to make it to the distance Reiki share.

So yeah, I do that with my

Pam

Reiki share as well, although mine is just one a month. So once a month, my podcast is the. The distance Reiki share, because again, like you guys, it's a talk and a meditation and not everybody can get there. That's fantastic. I, your podcast is number one, the number one Reiki podcast rated Reiki podcast. And I know this one is rated. Number three, I believe after Karen Harrison's Reiki podcast, so that's cool. Yeah.

Robyn

That's fantastic. Yeah. So you are going to Sedona this year, Pam, I meant to ask you that. I am. Are you

Pam

going to You're presenting. Yeah, I'm going to be presenting in Sedona. Will you be there this year?

Robyn

I will all everything willing. Yes. And I'm presenting with Colleen this year. I did just see a post that their single occupancy room sold out. So that means it's starting to fill up. They still do have double occupancy rooms available, but that, but that does mean, if you're looking to go and Sedona is magical and the retreat is magical. So if you're even thinking about going, you should definitely look into it and book your spot soon. And I can't wait.

Cause I haven't been to any of the retreats to see all our Reiki people in person for, since before the pandemic.

Pam

Oh, that's right. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it'll be nice. I just am coming back about a month ago from the northeast Reiki retreat in Silver Bay, New York. And I think they're doing early bird registration on that again, also for next May. And, it's just so amazing to be in that Reiki community with everybody for a weekend you come back completely energized and there's something about it, isn't

Robyn

there? Yeah, there really is. That looked so beautiful. I saw everybody's pictures. It

Pam

was, it was really lovely. It was. I, my daughter has asked me one more thing, Robin, before we go. Too far in. She's asked me to start reading some of the reviews of our podcast. So I have a beautiful review here from queen of the sparkly fairies, which I love, and it calls the podcast informative and unique. She says, Pam is a bright light in the universe and I enjoy her podcast. Very much.

Her guests have interesting perspectives and Pam has a warm and lovely interview style, highly recommend. So thank you. Queen of the sparkly fairies, whoever you are. I love your name. And I appreciate that. And the idea behind this podcast is that I was shown that there are well, and through my work with Colleen Robin's mom, I was shown that there are 7 billion now closer to 8 billion people on the planet.

And each one of us has our own unique perspective and the more perspectives that we can connect with the greater our understanding. So Robin, I'm so excited that you're here to bring us a perspective on spirit guides and I'll be contributing as well. But let me introduce you to my friend, Robin Benelli. She's a Holy Fire III Karuna Reiki Master Teacher, one of the co authors of the ICRT Animal Reiki and a co owner of Reiki lifestyle. She has been a Reiki master for over 15 years.

She's a professional member of the Reiki Membership Association and a contributing author to the Reiki News magazine. She also, with her mother and business partner Colleen Benelli, created and teaches Next Step. Reiki, which teaches advanced Reiki journey techniques, including the spirit reveal technique. And that just helps bring your Reiki practice to a whole new level. Robin, you live outside of Portland, Oregon with your husband and daughter, and we'll put links to your website, your

Robyn

social media,

Pam

and also to your Reiki share and also even to my monthly Reiki share. in the podcast notes. So thank you. I'm just going to invite everybody to bring your hands together in gassho now, if you can, and just go ahead and activate your Reiki energy so that it's with you, assisting you, helping you listen and hear the parts of our podcast that are pertinent to you and just wrapping you in a warm Reiki hug.

And just notice the beautiful brothers and sisters of the light, the divine animal kingdom, the angels, the archangels, the spirit guides that are standing at the corners of the land and on every side, shining their light into the light in your room, filling the air that you breathe, Reiki energy filling the air that you breathe. It's all flowing into your body on your breath. And if you have spirit guides, either whether they're known or unknown to you, we invite them to join us today as well.

Just breathing in the light, breathing in the love. We say thank you to our guides, whether you know them or not, for just guiding you to this place where you are connected with the magic of Reiki every day.

We appreciate you and we invite your compassionate assistance even and especially when we forget to ask a homotopy awesome namaste So Robin, I am always getting a question about spirit guides in our level one and two class, but of course, our level one and two Reiki class is so cram full of information, the way that we teach with the ICRT.

Ways that there's not really enough time to go into it in detail, which is why when I saw your article about, or your meditation in the Reiki Lifestyle Newsletter. About Reiki guides, I said, Oh, not only is this a perfect excuse to talk to Robin, but this is great. We can finally address this question for so many people. So how would you define a Reiki guide and how do you find that they support and assist practitioners in their practice?

Robyn

Yeah. First of all, I want to say that there is so much out there about spirit guides or Reiki guides. This is just one perspective and there are many right ways, many definitions. So just a caveat with all of that, if you have a different understanding, if you have a different way of doing this I, you're right to everybody's right with it. 8 billion different perspectives, right? Exactly.

I just wanted to say that out front or up front that this is just one perspective and kind of my own experience with teaching about this with my own personal experience and different experiences that I've seen with students and clients. But oh, and also that think both of us will use the term spirit guide and Reiki guide pretty interchangeably think that essentially we will. Be there the same thing. Somebody else might define that a little bit differently.

For me the slight difference is there are many ways that you can connect into your spirit guides in many ways out there that you can connect in with your spirit guides. Reiki is one of those ways. And so I think when many of us connect to our guides through Reiki energy, that they are, that's why we call them Reiki guides because they are. They come to us through the energy of Reiki. However, like I'm probably going to mostly say spirit guides because I consider them to be spirit guides.

Yeah. But what I would say that they are is what their title is that they are there for you to help guide you. They are there for you to help your questions, help answer your questions. They are there for healing. They're there for empowerment.

They're there to give you guidance on these things that you have in your life from the daily small things of maybe answering the questions of what decision should I make to the really large things such as these big moments of healing that most of us encounter in our healing journey and our Reiki journey in our life. Yeah. I think there was a second part of that question, but I forgot what it was already. That's all right. Me too. I'll

Pam

look at my notes, but I, when I describe the spirit guides, you know, and that's maybe leads to another question. Do you need spirit guides? And the answer is no. Most of us, I think have spirit guides, even when we're not aware of it. Robin, would you? Agree with that.

Robyn

I think that I'm glad that you asked this question because that was actually something that I meant to say upfront that one of the things that is so amazing about Reiki is that if you want to go in this direction where you are really interested in spirit guides, where you're really interested in having guides through your Reiki practice you were able to, but not everybody has the interest in that style of Reiki practice because that Reiki has no required spiritual or religious belief systems.

Some people are just practicing Reiki through, let's say, a medical lens, that it's simply a complementary modality that helps with stress reduction and pain reduction. So there's a lot of people that You know, may not even be interested in the idea of spirit guides. What I love about the Reiki energy is that whether or not you have spirit guides or whether or not you're interested in spirit guides that the Reiki energy is always doing the work. And the Reiki energy is there regardless of that.

So it's one of the coolest things about Reiki is that it's not, none of that is a requirement, but I think so many people that are drawn to Reiki for their You know, it's spiritually guided life force energy. So even if you have a more medically and I just use that term, maybe as an example, even if you have a practice that there is that kind of higher element, that enlightened element to the energy that. People are attracted to.

And even if you don't start out this way, through the process of getting a relay, a deeper relationship with Reiki, some of these things might reveal themselves to you. On the flip side of that, many of us are attracted to it because of the spiritual aspect that Reiki has within its energy. It's an enlightened energy.

And so it, it has that piece to it that So many of us have experiences on Reiki one day one of Reiki one that are these spiritual aspects or we're really attracted to it because there's a healing element to it and we want to go through it and learn about it or do Reiki sessions because we are attracted to the healing. Aspect of that. But at the same time, if you are unsure of who your guides are, if you don't have the interest, Reiki is always doing the healing work.

And that's part of the thing that is, was a relief to me in the beginning of this journey around it, because If I didn't know who my Reiki guides were, if that took a while to reveal itself to it, I could always be certain that the Reiki energy is doing the healing work. And for me, I do healing work through my guides, right? That is a part of what my practice is.

But if that part isn't there for me yet, or I'm like, My guides are, you can always just be confident that the Reiki energy, it's not coming from me. It's coming through Reiki. It's coming through me and it's coming through my guides that are really helpful. Yeah, so I would say that, do all of us have guides? I think it's a little bit of a hard question to answer because I would love to say yes.

And then at the same time, if somebody isn't interested in that, I don't want them to think, Oh, gosh, I have these guides and I have to know they are, but I think that any of us are interested in that style of practice that there are guides there for you that you can have reveal to you. I think that,

Pam

All of us can tap into guidance and receive guidance through Reiki energy in whatever form. And one of the things that I like to explain to people in my level one and two classes is that you don't need to work with a guide. I like working with a guide simply because I'm not very good at abstract concepts. And by having somewhat my guides there, my animal guides and my more human animal guides it's like I can have a conversation with someone.

And it just makes it a little bit more solid, a little bit more Real for me so that I so that my mind doesn't have to grapple with the abstract concepts but certainly you don't have to have a Reiki guide and it's funny Robin my very first Reiki class my first Reiki level one class. It was two days long and The teacher played William Rand's meet your Reiki guides meditation in the class and you were supposed to meet your Reiki guides and at that time, I didn't know anything about guides.

I didn't know anything about angels. I didn't know anything about anything. And I remember being absolutely mortified because The guide, first of all, the first two guides that showed up were two of my living horses and I was like, how can you guys be my guides? You're alive. And they just explained to me, horses can walk between the worlds. We're fine. We're guiding you. We're, we are part of your Reiki journey and they have been through the whole thing.

Secondly, I saw this little tiny fairy, this little tiny spark. And I thought, Oh, great. It's a fairy, but I don't believe in fairies. And the spark got back then. I didn't, I do now, but the spark got bigger and bigger and bigger. And eventually it became God. And I said, Oh wait, why did you come as a tiny spark And. He said, because you wouldn't have believed it was me if I had shown up in all my glory.

And then I thought I'm not going to share with people that God is my guide, because they're going to think I really think a lot of myself. If God is my guide, like that, they're going to think, Oh, doesn't she have delusions of grandeur or something like that? So I didn't share. And then in the final piece. You were to ask your guide's name, and I got the name Ariel, and I thought, Oh, great.

Everybody else is probably going to have somebody really cool and I got the little mermaid like that sounds, and. So then our teacher asked us to share with the rest of the class who we got as a guide. I wasn't going to share my living horses because I didn't think that was allowed. I wasn't going to share that God was my guide because I thought people would think, who does she think she is having God as her guide?

But in fact, probably lots of people have God, whomever they, whatever name you use as a guide. And certainly I've been. In my mind, talking with God all my life and receiving guidance there all my life. So I shared the name Ariel and my teacher said, Oh, Archangel Ariel, the angel of animals and the environment and nature. And I was like, Oh, I had no idea that was an angel. And I've always been all about animals and nature and the environment. And it just made perfect sense.

So I love the fact that. If you'd like to know about working with a guide, you can and I think you can also choose a guide as well if you're not sure who your guide is. And maybe we'll talk about that a little bit. How do you find guides can help us deepen our connection with Reiki and help us with healing? What have you noticed?

Robyn

Yeah I love what you said, too, because that's a couple of things is that I think how a lot of this comes to us is how it gets us to the energy and how it gets us to those kind of higher states of consciousness and whatever filter we need for that is what is a lot of times how it comes to us. To us is you had this experience where, you had this little fairy that you had to meet first and then it got bigger because that's how it got you to there. It's like we think of energy is coming. to us.

And that's true too. But I do a lot of times it's about how we can heal our boundaries, our layers so that we can access those higher states of consciousness. And then also your point to your living horses being your guides, because that is one of the things that I have found really fascinating is that when we think of. Guides, I think, other than animals, I think we think of guides as these kind of ancient beings, but really you can have.

Guides that are recent, we've had people that have had guides that have come in from the future. And so just not putting any of that, those limitations on who your guides may be that you that you can, have them from, maybe they're still alive, or maybe that they have just recently passed. And they can be a guide to I know one of my clients has Ram Dass as their guide. And he passed not too long ago, just a few years ago. And that was one of those things that was expansive around it.

Is that, oh, I can have guides that are recent or even living like your horses

Pam

type. Yeah. And Sai Baba, now that I think of it was a guide for Janice Jones, William Rand's spiritual advisor. And he was living at the time.

Robyn

Exactly. Exactly. So just really allowing the limitations to fall away and really trusting in the Reiki energy. If there is a guide that comes to you and you think wait a second, this isn't ancient or, it's not an angel or something like that, that is That is coming to you.

Also. Yeah, I do think that there is, especially in the beginning, a level of choice of who you can have to be your guide that if you're, not only in the beginning, but if you're unsure how to connect in, or maybe there's not somebody that's coming to you or something, let's say, Yeah. But you've in your life, you've been connected talk your whole life and it's shown in important ways through your whole life.

And so as you're going through this process, that that, yeah, choose to have Hawk as one of your spirit guides that's absolutely, or an angel that you might have been connected to your whole life, that you can have them as your spirit guides as well. I love

Pam

that. I love that. And do you find that having a guide, because for me, it makes it more tangible. Do you work with a guide and

Robyn

any experiences

Pam

you'd like

Robyn

to share? Yeah. And to answer your previous question in relation to that is that for me, it has deepened my Reiki practice. And a part of that is that it, first of all, agreed that it helps me to be able to ask an entity, my questions, that There's something about that again getting me to the energy. Do I think that it's necessary that it could all come through Reiki energy that it could all come through my heart, my mind, my instincts, my intuition, absolutely. But for me.

Having an entity there just to use, to, to use a word like that is easy, to, to describe to have an entity there for some reason helps me drop my boundaries even further. I don't have all of my healing work. I don't have all of my answers come through a guide necessarily, but I have a lot of it because I am able to go into the place of here's my question. Help me get out of my own way because that's really a lot of it and help me answer this question. What should I do?

What decision should I make? How can I have this healing? It also helps me as a practitioner because my guides, I use my guides as a practitioner too. So for me, what it does is it really helps that process. It helps me move more into my own trust and I trust the Reiki energy. Absolutely. Like when I am in a Reiki session, there is nothing that I feel like I could come across that would feel uncomfortable. It might feel uncomfortable, but nothing that I couldn't handle.

Whether it's a question I don't know how to answer. And even if sometimes the answers, I'm just not sure how to answer that makes me feel confident in that if there's, maybe even like a spirited attachment that I come across. I, I trust in the Reiki energy so absolutely. And I feel that trust has come through this idea that I have spirit guides to help me.

And that's how it has really deepened my Reiki practice is and deepened my relationship with the Reiki energy on top of my own personal experiences that are in the same vein that my guides, I can call them in for anything that I could possibly ever need, and I don't know why it is that I needed kind of that outside perspective to help me to get to that place. But what it has caused by having that outside perspective is actually deepened my relationship with the energy of reiki and deepened that.

I don't question anything around it or with it because I know that the Reiki energy is always going to take care of it, even if it's taking care of it through a guide. I love that.

Pam

And I think that there are times, and for me too, maybe A little bit different, but there are times when I don't always have confidence in myself, but I have confidence in the energy and I have confidence in the guides. And so I know that we're going to be able to help. In just any situation. You're right. There's and I do trust very much. My guides and the energy and it just makes it a little more real to have that divine entity.

You're calling it that divine being, whether it's a divine animal, because I do work with divine animal guides. A divine person, the human is an animal, as we kept being reminded as we were creating animal Reiki. And so I just love that we have that to call on. So if there's somebody that would like to connect with their Reiki guides, How

Robyn

would they go about it in your opinion? So there's a lot of different ways to connect to your Reiki guides or your spirit guides. Like you said, William has that offering where he's doing a guided experience with the meet your spirit guides. There's a lot of resources on YouTube to meet your spirit guides. We're going to be doing a meditation at the end of this or guided. Experience or journey at the end of this that people can meet their spirit guides.

There's another one that we have on our YouTube there's. From a sh a shamonic perspective, there are ways that you can meet them through sound, like through drum or rattle or even sound bulls. So there's a lot of it that's through intention. So if you're going to go into a Reiki space even through self reiki there's a lot of it that's about intention.

You setting your intention to meet your reiki guides and Some people might have experienced it in a Reiki class, I know that it's a it's one that comes through in the attunement process, especially in Holy Fire where you're in that kind of inner experience. But through all Reiki attunement processes, they can meet a guide or different healing experiences in a Reiki class that you can meet a guide so that's another common place that. people will meet them.

Sometimes they'll just come to people spontaneously or you might set an intention through self Reiki that, oh, okay. I want to meet a guide and maybe it doesn't come in that moment, but somewhere along the line, there's a guide that comes through maybe something that's showing up a lot in real life or in other experiences. You can also go to practitioners.

To ask for a Reiki guide, that would be something that you would want to make sure the practitioner, that's their style of practice, that's something that they want to do. I know for me, it's been through mostly through Reiki journey techniques that I meet with my guides. I have, I have all sorts of guides. So I have a main few that I work with, but then I'll have guides that come in for different purposes.

Like when we were doing the animal Reiki, it was the divine animal kingdom and Jaguar through that process was a really big piece of it for me helping. Me navigate that process. And right now, like I'll have Jaguar come through from time to time, but it's not like a, one of my main guides. But if I'm, as a practitioner, I am doing spirit release. This one was actually a little surprising to me but I actually use Jesus as a spirit release guide because he's really great at that work.

Yes. And I wouldn't consider myself normally to work within kind of that belief system, but, at the same time, holy fire has healed so much of that piece within me that I yeah, that I am like Colleen actually said, she's Try Jesus for the spirit release piece and have him do the work. And so he completely does that work for me. Him and Reiki, they completely do that work for me.

And that's again, one of those places that I just find such a deep level of trust, because if there's anything that like, what is this, or I don't know what to do with this, or, there's an attachment here, I'd just be like, come on in. Come look after it for me. Not coming from me, it's coming through and it's coming through him, like just come on in and do this work and there's a relationship there.

Because of that, but then when I'm doing my own work, it's not to say that I wouldn't have him come in if there's an attachment that needs to be released but I have my own kind of personal team of guides that includes animals for some for some things. It includes also like beings, ascended masters. So many different things like, there can be gods and goddesses, there can be ascended masters, there can be animals. So there's a fairies god.

So there's a lot of different a lot of different infinite possibilities as far as your guides. So when I'm doing my own work, that's a different kind of my main team around that. And most of the time, if I'm doing sessions for others, that's who I have around me. They might have their own guides but that's who I'm going to have with me. They're not always doing the work unless there's a very specific thing that they do the work for.

Normally, it's just with the Reiki energy that is that I'm utilizing, I might ask them a question or maybe there's a certain thing that comes up that they need to help with, but the Reiki energy is doing the work even as a practitioner. So there's a variety of things

Pam

with us, right? It just, to me, it just, I, it's true. The Reiki energy is doing the work, but it feels like you're not alone and

Robyn

that you have some support. Exactly. It supports us. And when I have big questions that I can't get out of my own way. That's when I'm like, come in here and help me get out of my own way. Like I, it is and even in Reiki sessions for others, there are so many times where you're like, okay, drop deeper out of the way, like drop deeper out of the way. And so much, and so many times my guides helped me to do that, to just get fully out of the way.

But I find that a bigger piece with my own subtle, like I need to get out of the way. And then other times I don't even have questions. They just come in and they're like, this is what you're going to be doing. Or this is the healing that you need, or this is your gift and talent or your empowerment that you have that you, that we're healing the layers that are covering that. And so other times they're directing me rather than me.

Just Asking the questions and they'll come in a big way and help me in those times, too.

Pam

I love that. And, I think it's important to have guides from higher realms, the higher heavens. And even when you do, sometimes those guides can change. One of the things that I noticed is that when I first studied Karuna Reiki there was a section that William talked about letting go of guides and he explained that sometimes our guides can take us to a certain level or a certain place. And then when they've taught us all that they can, they then let us go to other guides.

And I remember this was in would have learned Reiki in 2010. So this was in 2013, three years later, and Thinking I'm not going to get a different guide. I'm working with Ariel, Archangel Ariel, and God, it doesn't get any better than that. So I was absolutely gobsmacked when I got three new guides that I was told, yeah, you're going to be working with Archangel Michael, Jesus, and Quan Yin now, and, as going through that attunement process. And I will say that I actually initially.

Probably resisted working with Jesus the most, just because I still had some unhealed, you too, unhealed religious trauma, and I got behind Archangel Michael, I didn't really understand Quan Yin as well, I knew all three were there, but I probably had the most dialogue and interaction with Archangel Michael. And then a few years later.

In 2015, when I studied Holy Fire the first time, Archangel Michael and Kuan Yin said, we're going to leave you with Jesus now because you need to get to know how he works and how he does things. And I was still resisting it. But fortunately when Holy Fire 3 came in, It fortunately, the holy fire did help heal my religious trauma. And now I just love working with Jesus. And of course, since at my horses have always been there, but also since we did the animal Reiki work.

I also have some divine animals that show up and I have a whole team of angels. If it can. It can shift depending on what's happening and often when I'm working with. someone else in a session, their guides are there. And I think that a lot of times their guides drop them into my classes or my sessions, they help us connect. And so anyway, it's such a fascinating thing. Can they help with things like, do you think burnout self doubt blocks in the energy flow?

Do you think they can assist when things like that show up?

Robyn

Absolutely. That's one of the places that I find them most helpful. And to your earlier point, with other people, I, you do find that their guides have guided them there, right? And they, it's all in retrospect that you realize that. But I do love working with other people's guides. And again, that trust of Reiki energy to know that I am always going to be working with enlightened beings. And also that it has helped me learn the discernment when I'm not.

And the working with other guides, other people's guides that aren't my own, but I'm happy to commune with them in that session for them. You learn so much. It's because it's outside of your own perspective.

And so they're going to have these Perspectives and healing and revealing all of these things that you wouldn't have encountered without working in that space with somebody else, which is also in general why I love sessions for others, but working with God guides that are, that are, you would have never, and some that I didn't even know existed. And then it turns out it's this deity from, this other spiritual path or belief system or religion.

And you're like, Oh, it's just so endlessly fascinating. It really is. Isn't it? It really is. Yeah. And it's healing for you as well, because you do just learn so much. So much more from them, but I do think that is one of the places that guides help us personally. The most is that, as I said before, they just help you to get out of your own way. And that is what I think we need the most, like that, remembering that we are all divine light inside.

That we are all that God spark within and that we are the same as our spirit guides. Like our light is the same as their light. They're just coming to us from a different place. They've chosen to stay in the realm that they're in. And we've chosen to come here into this realm. But when you take off our human suits, we are that same light and our guides help us to remember that and to heal the places.

The blocks, the limiting beliefs, the trauma from this lifetime or past lifetimes or ancestral history, it helps us to heal that so that we can get closer and closer to remembering that light inside, which is also our authentic self, like who we came here before, who we are and who we came in as before all of these things covered that from. Our own view.

And I think that's really where the guides that outside perspective because It is so much harder many times to know that for ourselves, then it's how you hear would you talk to yourself the same way you would talk to a friend, right? So they're that friend that is talking to us and helping us to know that within ourselves to helping us to remember that within ourselves. So that we can move closer and closer to our most divine self to our most authentic self as well. I love

Pam

that. And, on that vein, I do have a question like, how can a practitioner be sure that they're working with a positive, helpful Reiki guide and not a harmful or disruptive entity? What can we how can we be sure?

Robyn

One of the things I love about working with Reiki energy in this work, because I've done spirit guide work in other ways as well. And this is not hierarchical. It's just. I love this perspective of Reiki energy because it's an enlightened energy. 99. 9% of the time we are meeting an enlightened being when we are using Reiki energy as the backbone for This spiritual exploration for knowing this, some of them, we're going to just know that they're enlightened beings, right?

Such as the angels, Jesus Kwan Yin, some of those other ones from all different spiritual perspectives around the world that we know are enlightened beings. So if they come through. You're going to know that they're enlightened beings divine animal kingdom, those kinds of things. I would say the few times that I've seen confusion around this is the just trying to think of how to word this is, I'm actually going to rephrase this.

So there are a few things that you can look for a guide that may not be enlightened. There's like... Symptoms or warning, warning signs or yeah, exactly distinguishing characteristics. I would say the biggest thing that you can look for is that they have jealousy in a way, like I, as I said earlier, I work with Jesus for in a certain capacity, but he's not part of my main team for my own work, unless there's.

He's not jealous that I may not see him for a while and that I only call him in for spirit attachment work. Like he's not I haven't seen you in forever or wait, you're only going to use me for this. There's none of that because he's completely enlightened. He doesn't have duality. So there's none of those lower frequencies within him.

And so that's one of the biggest places that you can find that if there's a guide that is has that level of duality, it's not to say that they don't have the enlightened side of them, they do, they may also, but they're not in those really higher realms where there only is the enlightened energy, there is no duality. So there's no lower frequencies in those. Those realms. So that's one of the biggest places that you can see that I noticed that

Pam

with a client that I had, and she had well established guides before I met her and before Reiki, but I had to tell her I really believe your guides are from the second heaven. They're from a lower frequency, because they would they would tell her, you need to do this or else, or else something harmful is going to happen to you. And I just said that is not coming from a highest frequency. You just have to understand that the higher frequency guides, they don't bargain like that.

They just want your best interest. And it would be. threatening, do this or else. And she recognized that they were lower frequency guides. I don't know that she ever did change them. I'm not sure. I hope so, but

Robyn

yeah. Yeah. They don't have an attachment or an agenda and I use the attachment, not in the way like a spirit attachment, but they don't have an agenda. Around the kind of how you go about things, whereas a slightly lower frequency, or I shouldn't say, I want to clarify because there's also enlightened beings in the second heaven. They're just, yeah, there's still duality there though. So that's where they would have. That really they want maybe things done in a certain way they want.

And it's not to say that I'm just going to use Jesus as the example because it's an easy one. It's not to say you should be doing it this way because it's your best interest. But like your example of you should do it this way

Pam

Or else there was always with her.

Robyn

I need

Pam

to realize this isn't the highest level of guidance and you need to do it now. Yes. Or

Robyn

else. Yeah. Or I need you to do it this way. Because this is what I want, this is how I, rather than this is what I want for me rather than you should be doing it this way because this is A, B, and C like healing, A, B, and C this and this, or empowering this and this for you. So there's just a different level of. Ego duality attachment to outcomes and also attachment to the amount that you might work with them, any sort of those kinds of dual natured behaviors.

Yeah. But again, I don't want to hierarchical on it because I know that people have different relationships with their guides and then the way that they work with them. But I will say from my own perspective of not only work for myself, but teaching this work and being a practitioner of this work, that working with those non dual really high frequency guides. And then, we call them up the third heaven or third level of consciousness or higher where there's no duality is.

It's a lot easier way to go. It is. You never have to worry about that duality, you just

Pam

know it's positive and loving. And I like what you said Robin about the fact that approaching it through Reiki. 99. 999% of the time, you are connecting with those higher guides just automatically, even if you don't know

Robyn

the difference. It's an enlightened energy. The only time, literally the only time out of the how many Yeah, I have one that I can think of, and it was actually a spirit attachment that she thought was her guide. And I can understand why it wasn't even that the spirit attachment was like, doing it on purpose from a malevolent place, the spirit attachment thought that it was doing right.

And then, Jesus come in and he was like, and the spirit attachment was like, wait, I'm not this enlightened being that's like doing right by this person. And because there was definitely those kind of dual lower vibration messages, they're like how you described it. And Then it released easily because Jesus took it into the light where it was going to transmute and actually become an enlightened guide.

And so maybe there was one other time, but that's the really the one where the person was really working with it, that it turned out to be actually. a spirit attachment. So can happen, but very rarely, very

Pam

rarely. And I think that quite often when you are doing Reiki those, even if you don't aren't at the master level, and even if you don't understand spirit attachments and so on, just doing your daily self Reiki releases those. And so if you do have any unhealthy attachments, just Putting your hands on yourself and doing self reiki 5, 10, 15 minutes every day. It already addresses those lower frequencies for you, even if you're not. Intentionally working toward that end. So I do I do love that.

And

Robyn

he wrote, yeah, I would say just real quick before we move on. It's so rare that I would never tell anybody to even worry about it. Yeah, I think, I want to make sure that we say that because like. When you're doing this work through Reiki, you don't have to worry about that, like the guides you are going to meet are going to be enlightened, are going to be enlightened and the people

Pam

that I was working with who had unenlightened guides, I actually thought of three hadn't been doing Reiki, these were Right. So they weren't coming through a Reiki lens at all, or they weren't they were just, they were reaching out. They needed help. They hadn't been doing Reiki. If they had been, I don't know that they would have had the. I just

Robyn

don't want people to like question, question that. And I love how you said that. Reiki naturally releases that. Don't want you to question that if you are in this process of finding your spirit guides, connecting with them. If you, when you're doing it with Reiki energy in a lot of different ways out there too, it's not just Reiki energy. I just trust it so much because it's an enlightened energy with no duality that I know that for sure.

Through Reiki energy, you're going to be connected to enlightened ones. So you're doing this work. Don't worry about that. I was like, maybe it even brought it up. Maybe not.

Pam

But

Robyn

yeah, I don't want to freak people out, but yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Pam

And that makes sense. I think that but yeah, I, as I think of it, every single person that had an unenlightened guide was not doing Reiki. So I think that. That makes a difference,

Robyn

but hey,

Pam

Sometimes we think wait, I work with Jesus a lot. Who am I to call on Jesus? Isn't he busy? And doesn't he have a lot of stuff to do? So my question is, can Reiki guides work with multiple practitioners simultaneously, or do they need to be specific to each individual?

Robyn

This is such a great question. And I love to ponder this question. Because first of all, yes, they are infinite and our human brains and constructs and ideas of time and space. Are in one way I think that even if we have the concepts or consider multi dimension that we are multi dimensional beings, the concept of infinite time and space I believe in that, but it's also sometimes hard for me to completely conceptualize it that there is Time isn't linear.

It's like there's past, present and future, not even getting into dimensions,

Pam

omnipresent, they can be many places on time because

Robyn

linear, exactly. Like we have these constructs of the way that time works the way that. And so pondering this question and pondering it with past lives and pondering it with like how guides work because they do. We all do I don't you said Jesus is a guide for you. It's a guide for me. We probably I know it's a guide for Colleen because we've had, many in depth conversations about this.

And so how that all works is I think a part of it is also for people to explore for themselves and come to their own inner truth about how that works. What my perspective or perception of it, I should say, what my perception of it is that You have to remember the idea of infinity, have to remember that this is it that's infinite. Once you get into these higher realms, and in that is. There's infinite possibilities with it.

And so yeah, Jesus can be working with you at the same time as he's working with me. I've questioned how I can work with, I don't work with my grandma as a guide, but she is a, as like a spirit guide in that way. But I, I visit her, I ask her for advice or she'll come in for different reasons, right? When I'm. in this Reiki space or this Reiki journey space. How does that work? If she's also incarnating into a different lifetime, like, how does that work?

And so there's some of these like really big perspectives that these really big ideas about consciousness and time that I think is A really fun and fascinating topic to explore for each of us to also have our own perspective around. What I do know is that just from experience and like proof, because I all of us can have different experience of Jesus in the same journey. Or when we were writing the animal Reiki no novel, the animal reiki manual.

Sometimes it felt like a novel, but No, just kidding. Oh, just a lot of work. Yeah. The manual. And we would wor be working with the divine animal kingdom in four different journeys at the same time. And many times having a very similar animal come in, especially horse, because it was such a big part of our process. And how does that work? How does Jesus come to all of us? I know that he does because I've experienced it.

And, seeing isn't believing a scene or, that, that thing that I've just, I just know it's truth because I've just experienced it so many different times. But what's always interesting is that because we each have our own lens, that 8 billion realities, he comes to us in different ways and he comes to us with different messages and even different kind of personality and different work that he does for each of us.

And I think that's a part of like how, again, How each of us, what each of us need to get to that remembering, like you might need a different sentence or different healing than what I need getting us each to that place, getting us each to that same place, which is that remembering of our divine light inside. I love

Pam

that Robin. And I think we're from here, unless there's anything else you want to add, I think we'll move into a meditation where people can either meet their guides or maybe spend time with them if they're already aware of them. But one of the things I want to leave us with is one thing that I often tell people who are new to this work is you probably already know who your guide is. You probably have always really been interested in or attracted to Ganesha or, whomever your guide is.

You probably, or maybe are an archangel or something like that. You've probably always been fascinated or St. Francis or whomever. You've probably always been very interested and you probably have been working. With this enlightened being as a guide, even though you may have been under unaware of it. Is there anything else you would like to add Robin before we go into meditation today?

Robyn

Yeah, I really like that. And that is where you can go and ask because you can have you can talk to them, you can have discourse or discourse isn't the right word, but you can have conversations with them. You can dialogue with them. That's the word I was looking for. You can dialogue with them. And let's say you have this connection with Ganesha, go in and ask Ganesha do you want to be a guide for me? Are you a guide? What do you, will you? Will you? Yeah, are you? Yeah, exactly.

What do you have to teach me? All of those kinds of questions, don't be afraid to go in and ask. It's okay, like you don't always have to just wait for it to show you. Although sometimes that's what you're guided to do, no pun intended, sometimes that's what you just do and that's okay too, but you don't necessarily have to wait. I think that's something that people get.

Hung up on that they, or I shouldn't say hung up on, but may not know that they can just go in and they can go in and have a dialogue, ask these questions, ask questions of them that you may not have thought, Oh, I can just ask that that's a big unlearning, I think for many of us.

Pam

I agree. And William ran talks about the fact that we can actually choose someone that we want to work with as a guide. And then he recommends that we then send Reiki for about 15 minutes a day for a couple of weeks to that guide in order to really strengthen the relationship. And regardless of how you do this. That might not be a bad idea also is to just use that distance symbol and connect your guide and send Reiki to just strengthen.

Robyn

Yeah. Yeah, love that. And I think that it goes back to one of your earlier questions or statements that, like, why are we worthy of working with Jesus. And that is a lot of unlearning and healing around that because they are infinite love. They are infinite love and we are infinite love within. And so it is about Using the Reiki energy to heal the layers that have caused us to forget that.

And again, when we take off our human suits and we get into those higher levels of consciousness, we are all, we're all one. We're all infinite love. We're all divine love inside. And so are these spirit guides and they love you. They love you so much. And that's the thing to really remember is that they just have. An infinite amount of love for you. And that is one of the things that I love connecting in with them about because they remind me of that. Thank you. You have infinite love for me.

I am infinite love within and we, and I have infinite love for you. Like they, they can, they connect us into that really deep place of love. Oh, what a beautiful

Pam

way to leave this conversation. Robin, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I know that you have a wonderful meditation or a guided journey for us today, where we can either meet or spend time with our spirit guides. So I'm going to invite you to

Robyn

take it away. Okay. Yeah, so we're actually going to do more of a Journey experience, it might be an act of meditation, however you want to define that where we will go and spend some time with either meeting a spirit guide, or if you have spirit guides as Pam said you can just take the time and commune with that a little bit more. You can do this journey again if some something doesn't come through in this time you can do it again.

And I love your idea of spending, sending Reiki to it and then maybe doing it again. Just allow your experience to be what it is. I'm going to guide you through the majority of it, but I'm also going to let you have a little bit of time and silence to have your own inner experience. Thank you. Just going to

Pam

grab a sip of water real quick. Sure.

Robyn

Okay. Close your eyes. Let's just take some big, deep breaths. Allow the sacred air to travel in when your breath and fill your whole body. If you're attuned to Reiki, just activate it in your hands and place your hands comfortably on your body. Give yourself Reiki. And if you're not, just know that the Reiki light is surrounding you now. And as you breathe in that Reiki energy and it travels in on your breath and fills your whole body.

And as you breathe out, just start letting go of any busyness or anything that you have to do later. And just bring yourself right here, right now, connect in with that heart space. And feel the enlightened energy, just turning on all of those enlightened parts of you at divine light within growing brighter and brighter. The illumined ones are standing in a circle around you and in the space that you're in and filling the whole space with love and light and Reiki energy and shining it on you.

And you just breathe it in, as you know that your light is the same as their light. Imagine now that it's a beautiful day, it's warm and sunny, the beauty of the earth surrounds you. Up ahead of you is a beautiful bridge of light filled with illumined beings, and you decide that you'd like to cross over the bridge. Do you walk through the colors of red and orange? Yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet, they fill you and activate your divine colors within colors of creation.

And you cross over the bridge as you step to the other side. You find yourself in the most extraordinary place. All there is love here. You find yourself in the third heaven, the third level of consciousness. There's a path leading along the river, the bridge crossed over, and you decide that you would like to follow the path along the river, so you begin to follow it. Divine animal kingdom is here, drinking of the waters, these are the primordial waters of creation.

The sun is reflecting off the waters, creating beautiful sparkles. You come to a place. The river bends and there's a pool water here and you decide that you would like to step into the pool. It's warm and comfortable and you wade further into the water and this extraordinary peace just overcomes your entire being. You spend a moment.

Letting go here, the river of life, the light of Reiki is shining down upon you into your heart from the highest sources of consciousness, filling your entire body, and here in the river, you let go of anything that is ready to be let go of today as you are going to meet Your spirit guide, any culturally created beliefs or limiting beliefs, any blocks or cords or attachments that need to be let go, any trauma from this lifetime, past lifetimes, ancestral history, and they all just go into the

water, any oaths or vows or promises. It melts off of you into the river. The river carries them from you and for you into the light, there to be heard or listened to or healed. The Reiki energy just transmutes them into love and you take a long drink of the waters, cup your hands and take a long drink and the waters fill you with life force and vitality and fill those spaces that you have just let go of and you step out of the river and onto the riverbank and up ahead of you.

There's a great gathering of illumined ones beautiful beans of the light, and they invite you to join them, and so you step into the center of the circle. And you see now that there are so many different kinds of illumined ones here, divine animals, ascended masters, angels, gods or goddesses, beings. You could be trees or plants or sacred geometry here, allow the possibilities of this circle to be infinite.

And you spend a moment here as they shine their light on you and as you open your heart and receive, receive their light and their love, the light of Reiki shines down upon you and the entire circle of these being. And you ask. Or you choose who would like to be my spirit guide, who is my spirit guide, or if you already know your guides, they spend time with you here in this circle. And as you spend some time in your own inner experience, your spirit guide or multiple spirit guides.

Step forward and present themselves to you. Spend some time now and receive. These Beings of the Light are here for you to connect in with at any time. And so you thank the circle of these Illumined Ones for this incredible blessing that you, they have given you and the blessing that you give them. And your guides, walk with them. Start to walk back to the bridge of light with you guide or your guides.

They follow you as you follow the path back to the bridge of light and you start to cross back over the bridge and your guides come with you. They are within their infinite possibilities to remain in the illumined realms, the divine realms, as well as Come back to you to hear the physical realm and back with you. And so you step on to the bridge of light and walk through the colors again, violet and indigo.

The blue and the green, the yellow and the orange and the red, and you come back here, the first heaven, the physical realm, your guides are here with you too. They are here for you, however you need to work with them. They are here for you in your daily life. If you need to call them in and a challenging or a joyful experience, if you need guidance, advice.

You just need empowerment, whatever capacity you may need, whether it's your daily life or within, in your Reiki practice, whatever that looks like. These guides love you and they are here for you. And so you say thank you to them for being a part of this beautiful experience and this practice moving from here, say thank you. And you say thank you to all of the illumined ones that have.

Gathered here that we're a part of this for you say thank you to Reiki for just providing us with these amazing experiences and healing and reviewing to say thank you to the teachers and the ancestors that have come before you and the students and the descendants that will come after. We're so grateful to be in a lineage of light bringers and now just place your hands on your heart space. Thank you.

Look inside and say thank you to you, how beautiful you are, what love you are and how much you care. These guides are here within your heart, all around you, that beautiful communion and relationship. Thank you as above, so below and within. And so it is. So when you're ready, you can come fully back in and open your eyes.

Pam

Thank you. Robin. Yeah. Thank you. Beautiful. And just say thank you to the listeners. We're so grateful that you're here spreading your light on the planet. Namaste.

Robyn

Thank you so much for having me, Pam. Thank you to everybody.

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