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Regulated & Relational

Attachment & Trauma Network, Inc.
Join Julie Beem & Ginger Healy as we explore the trauma-informed, attachment-focused concepts of Regulation (self-regulation/co-regulation) and Relationship (building connection) and how we can help children build resilience and emotional health through the ways in which we parent, teach and care for children. This podcast is produced by the Attachment & Trauma Network, or ATN, a leading national non-profit supporting children impacted by trauma through their families, schools and communities.
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Episodes

Ep 97: Birthday Reflections

In this special birthday-themed episode of Regulated & Relational , we’re doing something a little different—and a lot more personal. Julie Beem is celebrating her birthday by inviting the entire ATN podcast team into the studio for a heartfelt and reflective conversation about birthdays, aging, and the complexities surrounding these milestones—especially for children impacted by early childhood trauma. You’ll hear from Julie, Ginger, Lorraine, and Stephanie as they open up about their own b...

Jul 01, 202552 min

Ep 96: The Importance of Therapeutic Parenting

In this insightful episode of Regulated & Relational , hosts Ginger Healy and Julie Beem are joined by Ce Eshelman, LMFT—an expert in attachment, trauma, and therapeutic parenting. With decades of experience as a therapist and adoptive parent, Ce brings both professional depth and personal understanding to this rich conversation. Together, we explore the foundations of therapeutic caregiving , how trauma impacts a child's behaviors and relationships, and what caregivers, educators, and clini...

Jun 17, 202549 min

Ep 95: The Dopest Coach

Today, we’re honored to sit down with a friend of ATN, Martin Ali Simms —a Neurosequential Sports Specialist, Mental Health Consultant, and Founder of The DOPE Coach Academy . Martin has dedicated his life to helping athletes and coaches tap into the healing potential of brain-based approaches, somatic practices, and trauma-informed care. In this episode, we dive into: 🧠 What it means to be a Neurosequential Sports Specialist and how brain development intersects with trauma recovery in sports �...

Jun 03, 202550 min

Ep 94: Two White Women Talking about DEI

In this vital episode, Julie and Ginger dive into the intersection of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) with trauma-informed practices. As DEI comes under political and cultural scrutiny, the hosts make the case that there is no trauma-informed approach without embracing DEI. DEI is not optional for trauma-informed practice—it is essential. Diversity includes more than race: gender, neurodiversity, age, ability, and lived experience. Equity means adjusting systems and supports so everyone c...

May 20, 202541 min

Ep 93: Using the Arts as a Healing Tool

In today’s episode of Regulated & Relational , Ginger Healy and Julie Beem are joined by a special guest, Cally Flox, a teaching artist, educator, and the lead author of A Teacher’s Guide to Resilience Through the Arts . Cally is the founding director of the BYU ARTS Partnership, where she works to enhance student learning and school culture by providing professional development for educators. With a wealth of experience teaching creative dance, integrated arts, and more, Cally brings a uniq...

May 06, 202554 min

Ep 92: Learning About and Celebrating Neurodiversity

In this insightful episode, we sit down with educator, writer, and advocate Meghan Ashburn to explore how we can better support autistic students—both in and out of the classroom. Meghan shares her journey from teacher to autism advocate and how listening to autistic voices reshaped her entire approach. We dive into: Why general education teachers are crucial allies for autistic students How schools can become more neuro-affirming and inclusive spaces The importance of centering autistic perspec...

Apr 22, 202549 min

Ep 91: Insights into Self-Compassion from TSS2025

In this episode of Regulated & Relational, Julie Beem and Ginger Healy discuss the concept of self-compassion, drawing insights from Dr. Kristin Neff's work. Dr. Neff, a researcher in the field, defines self-compassion as treating yourself with the same kindness you'd offer a close friend. She breaks it into three elements: mindfulness (being aware of struggles), connection (understanding we're not alone in challenges), and kindness to self (responding with warmth instead of self-criticism)....

Apr 08, 202547 min

Ep 90: Brain Development Basics

Join Ginger and Julie as they wrap up the season by talking about brain lessons. A little basic brain knowledge can go a long way in understanding behaviors and supporting children in your home or the classroom. Understanding brain development enables us to respond compassionately and helps children—and adults—thrive. Brains grow from the bottom up and the inside out. Although babies are born with brain structures in place, the development and activation of areas of the brain happen sequentially...

Feb 04, 202543 min

Ep 89: Adult Nervous Systems

Join Julie and Ginger as they speak with Dr. Lori Desautels Dr. Lori Desautels has been an Assistant Professor at Butler University since 2016, teaching undergraduate and graduate programs in the College of Education. The Applied Educational Neuroscience Certification, created by Lori in 2016, is specifically designed to meet the needs of educators, counselors, clinicians, and administrators who work with children and adolescents who have experienced adversity and trauma. https://revelationsined...

Jan 21, 202535 min

Ep 88: Let's Inspire, Inform, Instruct and Include Students

Join Julie and Ginger as they speak with Anashay Wright, a national award-winning educator, speaker, consultant, and ​​founder of Authentic Disruption and Disruptive Partners, a community-based leadership development program. https://www.anashaywright.com/ Anashay describes her journey by telling a story of inclusive school leaders who surrounded her family with community resources when they were in need. She says that school and district leaders prioritized people over policy, which led to Anas...

Jan 07, 202535 min

Ep 87: Understanding Interoception: The Mind-Body Disconnect

Join Julie and Ginger in speaking to Occupational Therapist, Kelly Mahler about Interoception and the body-mind disconnect. Kelly teaches that as caregivers and educators, we should be curious without expectation of a response from the children we work with. She also explains that we all have different internal experiences; our first step is to believe others and their experiences. Kelly tells us that before we start working on helping and healing the body-mind connection, we really need to work...

Dec 24, 202440 min

Ep 86: No More Sad Mommas; No More Sad Babies

Join Julie and Ginger in speaking to Carey Sipp talking about early childhood intervention. Carey is a solutions journalist and “Neuro-Nurturing ®” advocate who has written about the science of adverse childhood experiences* (ACEs) for about 15 years. She has also worked in communications for nonprofit organizations and for-profit organizations for some four decades. As a person with the experience of trauma and depression, Sipp’s inherent empathy is reflected in all her work, be it writing, spe...

Dec 10, 202437 min

Ep 85: Back to the Basics - The Trauma-Sensitive School Basics

Join Ginger and Julie as they talk to Mathew Portell. Mathew has dedicated a decade and a half to education in his role as a teacher, instructional coach, teacher mentor, and school administrator before joining PACES Connection as the director of communities in March 2022. He spent seven years as principal of Fall-Hamilton Elementary, an internationally recognized innovative model school for trauma-informed practices in Metro Nashville Public Schools. Mathew is now back in the building as a prin...

Nov 26, 202452 min

Ep 84: Digging into Attachment and Parenting Challenges

In this episode Ginger and Julie talk to Dafna Lender who is an international trainer, EMDR therapist, and supervisor for practitioners who work with children and families. She is a certified trainer and supervisor/consultant in Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy and Theraplay. Dafna’s expertise is drawn from 25 years working with families with attachment issues in many settings. She is a leader in family therapy from an attachment perspective and is passionate about her work and regularly co-tr...

Nov 12, 202439 min

Ep 83: Being Safe Enough Not to Bully

Listen in as Julie and Ginger talk to Ginger Lewman about Bullying. Ginger Lewman is a national consultant & keynote speaker with ESSDACK, a non-profit education service center based in Hutchinson Kansas. She holds a Master of Science in Psychology and Special Education and Gifted Education, With 30 years in education, she inspires and helps all levels of educators figure out the hard hurdles for innovative teaching and learning. Why do people bully? There are many reasons but Ginger boils i...

Oct 29, 202439 min

Ep 82: Oxytocin - What it is and what we need to know

In Episode 82, Ginger & Julie dig into Oxytocin. Oxytocin is often called the “love” or “cuddle” hormone. High levels of oxytocin correlate with the speed of wound healing. Research is documenting the positive effects of oxytocin in treating many conditions including heart disease, schizophrenia, diabetes, and certain kinds of cancer. For children who have experienced early adversities with attachment disorders and trauma-based impacts, increasing their oxytocin levels holds the promise of h...

Oct 15, 202436 min

Ep 81: The Theory of Hope

In this episode Julie and Ginger interview ATN’s dear friend, Dr. Melissa Sadin. Melissa teaches us about Hope Theory based on the work of Gwinn and Hellman and their book Hope Rising. You can check out Dr. Sadin’s books and work here: http://www.traumasensitive.com/ , https://a.co/d/9x4lPtk . What is the definition of hope? Hope is setting a goal that you desire, creating a pathway toward the goal, and utilizing the willpower necessary to achieve the goal through connection to another person. D...

Oct 01, 202444 min

Ep 80: Exploring Our Polyvagal World

In this Episode Julie and Ginger teach about the PolyVagal Theory and introduce us to Our PolyVagal World a new book by Dr. Stephen Porges and his son Seth Porges. Link to the book: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Polyvagal-World-Safety-Trauma/dp/1324030259 How safe we feel is crucial to our physical and mental health and happiness. When we feel safe our nervous system and entire body undergo a massive physiological shift that primes us to be healthier, happier, and smarter, to be better learners and...

Sep 17, 202446 min

Ep 79: The Three Pillars of A Healthy Life - Working our Way to Wellness

In this Episode Julie and Ginger talk to Dr. Rick Cain. Rick specializes in the neuroscience of stress and well-being. He helps us explore how wellness practices in the biological domain of self-regulation, such as healthy eating, restorative sleep, and regular exercise, aid in our ability to regulate our nervous system and are pivotal for optimizing cognitive function, forming habits, and managing emotions. Rick teaches us about the concept of the "body budget," as coined by Lisa Feldman Barret...

Sep 03, 202446 min

Ep 78: "What are We Here to Do?" A conversation with Superintendent Dr. Amy Fast

In today’s episode, Ginger and Julie talk to Dr. Amy Fast. Dr. Amy is currently a superintendent in Oregon. She is an author, and education commentator, former HS principal and elementary school teacher…and she is a mom! Her book, It’s the Mission, Not the Mandates can found at https://a.co/d/4ZtW5Kg . Listen in for these great takeaways: “Where I find kids thrive and are the most well, is when there is the magic balance of being pushed hard and loved hard. You can't have one without the other b...

Aug 20, 202439 min

Ep 77: Trauma-Informed Step-Parenting

In today’s episode, Ginger and Julie dive into Step-Parenting. Approximately 40% of all families are blended families, which are defined as divorced and/or remarried families or those living together that have children residing with one parent and possibly visiting the other, and have another adult in their lives who is the stepparent figure. Divorce is widespread, (hovering around half of all marriages.) For children, divorce is considered a traumatizing event and being raised by stepparents ca...

Aug 06, 202439 min

Ep 76: Diving Deep into Co-Regulation

Co-Regulation: Stepping in with soothing, responsive interactions to help a person be able to regulate their emotions. OR Borrowing the ability to attain a regulated state from another person who is emotionally regulated and responsive to our need for assistance. First – you need to regulate yourself. Be aware of own triggers Find /create your own system of support Find activities, interests to help you regulate (music, movies, hobbies, exercise) Find what grounds and anchors you, a source of st...

Jul 23, 202457 min

Ep. 75 - The 5 Love Languages of Neurodiversity

In this episode, Julie and Ginger share the Five Neurodivergent Love Languages from @neurowonderful. Info dumping. Sharing information about topics that excite you and that you have an interest or passion in and sharing them in detail and length. Body Doubling/Parallel Play/Sharing Space. When people do separate activities with each other, they are not trying to influence each other's behavior. Seeking Support/Support Swapping. Helping each other look out for themselves in small ways. Deep Press...

Jul 09, 202432 min

Ep 74. Nurturing Neurodiversity in the Educational Environment

In this Episode Julie and Ginger seek to increase awareness and acceptance of the strengths that neurodivergent children have. Neurodiversity means valuing all types of thinking and learning equally, without considering any as superior. It focuses on equitable inclusion by accepting diverse ways of engaging with the world, rejecting the ideas that difference from the norm are problems to be fixed. ATN a ligns with the belief that societal and physical barriers create disabling environments, and ...

Jun 25, 202446 min

Ep 73: Becoming a Trauma-Informed Restorative Educator

In this Episode, Julie interviews Joe Brummer and Marg Thorsborne about their new book, Becoming a Trauma-Informed Restorative Educator . Both Joe and Marg have years of experience and are experts in the field of restorative justice. Marg talks about how we can move away from punishment and the harm of behaviorism, and encourages us to look at how to build lagging skills and view behaviors through a lens of can’t vs won’t. She says that punishment doesn’t have the capacity to teach a skill that ...

Jun 11, 202440 min

Ep 72 -The Challenges of Parenting in Today's Society: A Deep Dive with Ingrid Cochren

In this episode, Julie and Ginger welcome Ingrid Cockhren into the studio to discuss parenting in today’s society…or, as Dr. Gabor Mate calls it, Horticulture on the Moon. Dr. Gabor Mate, a renowned expert, brings a unique perspective to the table. He points out that Western society has taught us to ignore our parenting instincts. He cites indigenous parenting practices as examples, which were more likely to meet the infant’s needs while supporting the mother and family with the community. We ec...

May 28, 202437 min

Ep. 71 - Children's 4 Irreducible Needs

In his book, The Myth of Normal, Dr. Gabor Mate points out that all children have 4 irreducible needs: a sense of security trust in the world interrelationships with others connection to your authentic emotions… And the way that they get these needs met is the availability of an attuned, non-stressed and emotionally reliable caregiver. The more stressed or distracted the caregiver, then the shakier the emotional architecture of the child’s mind will be. And that’s the crux of it all…how do we se...

May 14, 202446 min

Ep 70 - Geeking out on Attachment, Yoga, and Somatic Experiencing with Heather Altman

In this episode, Julie and Ginger talk with Rabbi Heather Altman about Attachment, Yoga, and Somatic Experiencing. She is a trauma specialist and a parent coach. She specializes in disruptive behavior in families. Her goal is to help her clients experience more comfort, more calm, and more compassion in their lives. She helps families develop deeper connections between the parents and children. Isn’t that what we all want. AND … she is mother of triplets!!!! Heather says that “We need to find so...

May 02, 202442 min

Ep 69 - My Trauma Isn't Your Trauma

In this episode Julie and Ginger talk about the 3Es of trauma. SAMHSA, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration of the US government, coined the term “the 3Es” and this has become core to the definition of trauma. The 3Es is a very basic concept but, while it is very basic, it isn’t simple. To determine if something is traumatizing, we can’t judge based on whether we think the event should be traumatizing. It is very individualized. SAMHSA says, “Individual trauma results fr...

Apr 16, 202432 min

Ep 68 - Exploring Baffling Behaviors with Robyn Gobbel

In this episode, Julie and Ginger invite Robyn Gobbel into the studio. Robyn loves cultivating deep, resonant connections with anyone who is up for it, and especially loves teaching anyone who will listen how to harness the power of neuroscience so they can cultivate deep, resonant connections, too. Robyn says, “Really, what would change in the world if we could all see, be with, feel, and deeply know each other…and ourselves. I think everything would change!” Before the COVID-19 pandemic, Robyn...

Apr 02, 202448 min
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