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Reframeables

Rebecca & Natalie Daveyreframeables.buzzsprout.com

Do you feel alone in your own head when it comes to navigating life’s big and small problems? Do you find self-care language a little too self-focused but know you still need to do the work? Join us on Reframeables and eavesdrop your way into some new perspectives — we promise you'll feel less alone as you listen. We are Nat and Bec, two very different sisters who come together each week to reframe some of life's big and small stuff. Nat's a PhD whose favourite phrase is “let’s reframe that!” Bec's an artist who tends more toward “why me?” Through candid, vulnerable yet entertaining conversations with each other, as well as guests, we find a way to meet in the middle each week and offer you, our listeners, new perspectives along the way. From a painful divorce that still needs processing, to grief that sticks around, to the simple day-to-day problems of managing a grumpy teenager, to a dynamic interview with Giller winner Ian Williams or radio personality and co-star of the Jann Arden podcast Caitlin Green sharing her vulnerable story of loss: Join our intimate conversations with authors, actors, activists, and voices from the crowd — those who inspire us to think differently about the world so we can reframe living in it. 

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Episodes

Reframing Screen Time with TV Scholar Michel Ghanem

Having spent a week at the Cannes Film Festival, we are now in withdrawal. Nat’s watching Marvel shows with her guys — and though she loves a good action TV show, she's missing the nuance. Bec is filling the hole with The Pitt — with a beefier Noah Wyle. Which brings us to our guest: Michel Ghanem, better known as TV Scholar. He's French, he's smart, and he does some serious research on the TV that’s out there and worth watching. We talk about how he left academia for television and his column f...

May 28, 202545 minSeason 1Ep. 96

Reframing Feminism with Dr. Serene Khader

We love reading books that express things we actually may have always known in our hearts, but previously didn't have the language for. Dr. Serene Khader’s book Faux Feminism: Why We Fall for White Feminism and How We Can Stop was one such book for Nat, and so we brought Serene on Reframeables to talk more about her work and break down the book for an absent Rebecca. We talked about feminism’s changing landscape in North America and beyond, and then we added “sex therapist” to Serene’s résumé as...

Apr 24, 202548 minSeason 1Ep. 95

Reframing Resilience with Allison Lang

When we started this podcast three years ago, we never anticipated that we'd be sitting down to talk with a Canadian Paralympian medal winner — but if anyone can reframe resilience, it's Paralympian Allison Lang. We loved so much about this chat — learning about Allison's sport, sitting volleyball, and how that opened the door for her to move forward from some pretty brutal bullying to become a disability advocate in so many different settings. From brand influencing to speaking about her prosth...

Mar 27, 202542 minSeason 1Ep. 94

Reframing Resilience with Julia Stewart

Who couldn’t use a mood boost these days? We’re grateful for good people doing good things to counter all this mess — like Julia Stewart, our next guest in our resilience series. She’s the CEO of Alurx, a wellness company with a cool health app (that you should check out, by the way). Julia and Nat almost missed each other because of the fires that were happening in L.A. — the day that we were supposed to record, she was being evacuated! When we finally were able to connect, we delved into the r...

Mar 12, 202548 minSeason 1Ep. 93

Reframing Resilience with Gill Deacon

Nat did the morning drive before the age of podcasts, and a voice that kept her sane on the road for all those years was the CBC's very own Gill Deacon — the next guest in our series where we reframe resilience. With Gill, we discuss resilience from a number of angles: her health challenges over the years with breast cancer and long COVID, and how she used writing to help her reframe along the way. We also talk about her new Substack and podcast projects, and the many ways in which she's come to...

Feb 26, 202550 minSeason 1Ep. 92

Reframing Resilience with Dr. Poppy Gibson

We continue reframing resilience with Dr. Poppy Gibson, a lecturer in education whose key interests involve children’s psychological development and mental health, and wellbeing in education. Nat had actually previously met Poppy when writing for a journal that she edits, and after doing some digging found out some really significant similarities! We talk about how both Nat and Poppy almost died, and Poppy’s children’s book about how to talk about death with kids. All kinds of trauma are navigat...

Feb 05, 202541 minSeason 1Ep. 91

Reframing Resilience with Laurie May of Elevation Pictures

Many famous people have been through the doors of Laurie May, co-founder and president of Elevation Pictures, one of Toronto Life's most influential Torontonians, and this episode's guest. We talked about our mothers and our own experiences of motherhood, what it means to be resilient in the face of hard business decisions as a woman in leadership, manifesting gratitude, and, of course, some celebrities. We could have kept going, to be honest! We love hearing from our listeners! Leave us a voice...

Jan 22, 202548 minSeason 1Ep. 90

Reframing Resilience with Jenn Harper of Cheekbone Beauty

Reframeables returns with a new six-episode series on female-focused resilience! Our first guest is Jenn Harper, the founder and CEO of Cheekbone Beauty — a cosmetics company which aims to help every Indigenous person see and feel their value in the world while developing sustainable colour cosmetics that won’t end up in a landfill. Jenn has been featured as Chatelaine’s Woman of the Year in 2019 and was on Canadian Business’ New Innovators list and Entrepreneur Magazine’s Woman of Influence lis...

Dec 19, 202440 minSeason 1Ep. 89

Reframing Mental Health in Times of Crisis with Niomi Cherney

We often have conversations with folks who have written books. In this episode of Reframeables, Nat has a thoughtful conversation with child therapist Niomi Cherney, who’s in the midst of drafting her very own book on how to talk to loved ones with opposing viewpoints — think Trump supporter at one end of the table, and leftist liberal at the other. Essentially, this episode is their attempt to reframe mental health in times of crisis — or what it means to survive and thrive in difficult times. ...

Jun 19, 202439 minSeason 1Ep. 88

Reframing the Art of the Interview with Poet & Novelist Canisia Lubrin

For this episode of Reframeables, we had the opportunity to speak with award-winning poet and novelist Canisia Lubrin about her new book Code Noir . After the interview, she sent the Reframeables duo an email, calling us both badass and tender, which is probably the best compliment we’ve ever been given — so there’s that. For context about her book, in 1685 France’s King Louis XIV passed a decree consisting of 59 articles meant to govern not only chattel slavery but Black subjecthood throughout ...

Apr 17, 202447 minSeason 1Ep. 86

Reframing the Productivity Narrative with the Sneaky Artist Nishant Jain

We are reframing the productivity narrative with Instagram and Substack-famous sketch artist Nishant Jain — otherwise known as the Sneaky Artist. Nishant trained as an engineer, almost got his PhD, and then switched tracks to make art in public — sneakily. Now his full-time gig is sketching with a recognizable yellow fountain pen so that he can’t erase anything — he’s very committed to the line. And if you’re ever in Vancouver, you might just happen upon one of his drawings left behind in a café...

Mar 20, 202458 minSeason 1Ep. 85

Reframing Rage with Kathryn Mockler

On this episode of Reframeables, we are reframing rage with author Kathryn Mockler. She spoke with us about the despair of writing and editing climate justice work, and how she’s moved forward from rage and exchanged hurt for the earth for human connection. She calls it ‘post-hope,’ though instead of ‘hope,’ her preferred word is ‘possibility’ — a possibility for shared concerns in community, be it in her writing or in her teaching. Kathryn Mockler is a writer, screenwriter, experimental filmmak...

Feb 21, 202449 minSeason 1Ep. 84

Reframing Truth-Telling Through Fiction with Claudia Dey

This week, we are reframing fiction as truth-telling with novelist, playwright, and clothing line creator Claudia Dey. You’ll hear our conversation filled with so many truths born of fiction, creating constraints to create, and the companionship of language. We talk about Claudia’s newest novel Daughter , and Hamlet , and theatre school memories of Claudia’s play Trout Stanley . We also get into how we can’t waver from value systems in terms of what we put out in the world. For Claudia, that sho...

Jan 17, 202450 minSeason 1Ep. 83

Reframing Burnout with Emilie Aries

Is reframing burnout even possible? According to Emilie Aries, the founder of Bossed Up, it is — sort of. Emilie is a speaker and author whose company is committed to closing the gender leadership gap. In this episode, you’ll hear our conversation about the systemic nature of burnout culture, particularly for women. We unpack “role overload,” try and take a really realistic look at boundary setting, and learn the difference between active and passive rest. These and other important ideas will su...

Dec 20, 202347 minSeason 1Ep. 82

Reframing Courtney Love: Fighting Gender Bias in Pop Culture with Lisa Whittington-Hill

This week on Reframeables, we spoke with author Lisa Whittington-Hill about her new book Girls, Interrupted: How Pop Culture is Failing Women . With Lisa, we jumped right in with a discussion about female rage, considered the failings of media for middle age women and teenage girls, and shared some nostalgic memories of Courtney Love — who Lisa has defended loudly enough to get her thrown out of parties. We are unhappy with the misogyny that is baked into pop culture and social media, but we are...

Nov 15, 202346 minSeason 1Ep. 81

Reframing Trauma Through Pop Culture with Jen Sookfong Lee

Pop culture is supposed to be light — downright breezy. Or, as we discovered in our conversation with celebrated Canadian author Jen Sookfong Lee, it can be something more: a bridge to navigating the complexities of intergenerational trauma, reckoning with one’s place in the world, and, perhaps most poignantly, facing the self. We hope you are able to take Jen’s pop culture wisdom and use it to help you reframe some of your own self-work — we did! Jen Sookfong Lee describes herself as one who “w...

Oct 18, 202354 minSeason 1Ep. 80

Reframing the Inside Joke with R. Eric Thomas

This week we are reframing pop culture as self-care (or reframing the inside joke) with author R. Eric Thomas. In a wonderfully meandering conversation we talked about faith, office cake, gardening, hiking up (and then running down) mountains, looking to Oprah as a way to prepare for big feelings, and using Chekhov for life metaphors. Finally, we landed on using pop culture references as bridges to help us connect with others. We really hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. R. Eric...

Sep 20, 20231 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 79

Reframing the Friendship Fail with Shasta Nelson

This week, we are reframing friendship — or more specifically, the friendship fail. To find out how a deep friendship has the potential to be rehabilitated, we talk with friendship expert Shasta Nelson, who has been called the Brené Brown of friendship. We talk about reframing loneliness, qualities every friendship needs, not downplaying our successes, and so much more. Listen for all the goods — your friendships will thank you. Shasta Nelson has been studying friendship, both personally and in ...

Aug 23, 202353 minSeason 1Ep. 78

Reframing Vegetarian Eating with Alicia Kennedy

This week, we are reframing vegetarian eating with food writer Alicia Kennedy. We talk all things vegetarian — politics, the meat industry, how food and relationships are connected, and (in Alicia's words) her desire to make vegetarian food both compelling and delicious. We walked away from this conversation with a lot of new ideas to chew on. Alicia Kennedy is a writer from Long Island now living in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Her work on food and culture has been published in The New York Times, Th...

Jul 26, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 77

Reframing Perfectionism with L'Oreal Thompson Payton

We're joined by author L'Oreal Thompson Payton to reframe all things perfectionism — breaking streaks, embracing shitty first drafts, or learning to stop waiting for the right moment. We take a hard look at how our own perfectionist tendencies show up in ourselves, where this pressure comes from, and how it impacts others. L'Oreal also treats us to insights on her own practice as a writer, struggles with fertility and postpartum feelings, and the non-linear path she has followed towards success....

Jun 14, 202343 minSeason 1Ep. 76

Reframing Working on Ourselves with Leah Faye Cooper

This week, we are chatting with Vanity Fair contributing editor Leah Faye Cooper. We met Leah at South by Southwest, where she was facilitating a panel of influencers that went down the road of Botox and fillers and the external work one can do on oneself. That prompted us to ask Leah to come on Reframeables and talk about the more holistic work that we can do on ourselves and in the world, but through the eyes of a fashion writer. We talk all things fashion and culture (and what we may or may n...

May 10, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 75

Reframing Momfluencers with Sara Petersen

This week, we are talking all things momfluencers with author Sara Petersen whose new book Momfluenced comes out this month. We reminisce with Sara about some of our favourite momfluencers, and why they also irritate us. We discuss the weight mothers carry to perform a certain kind of motherhood online, and some examples of mom culture getting it really right that you'll want to check out. Sara has written about motherhood and feminism for The New York Times, Harper's Bazaar, The Washington Post...

Apr 12, 202343 minSeason 1Ep. 74

Rewind! Reframing Place-Based Memories

We’ve gone back to the beginning dear Reframeables! Back to where it all began — because sometimes you have to look back to move forward. In this episode Nat and Bec introduce their “exceptional” details — who, what, where, including the frenemy relationship between their cats. Then they dive into some place-based memories that need reframing. For Nat it’s their childhood shed that Bec locked her in (she made Rebecca do it!); for Bec it’s the Starbucks at SickKids Hospital in Toronto where she s...

Mar 29, 202341 min

Rewind! Reframing Trauma with Chef Sang Kim

We joined writer and chef Sang Kim for a conversation around reframing trauma. We were thrilled to get Sang's perspective as one who has lived life from so many different vantage points — there is so much here in this interview! We touch on the search for "home," crossovers between art forms, cooking as a source of joy, what it takes to be a great improviser, and reframing trauma through daily practice. Sang Kim is a regular food contributor on CTV's The Social, The Marilyn Denis Show, Your Morn...

Mar 22, 202346 min

Reframing the Walking Meeting: Flâneurs in Austin

While in Austin for South by Southwest, we're reframing the walking meeting. We're taking in the streets of East Austin, and working our way through big feelings (some brought on by messages out of the blue) — all at a brisk pace! Link: The Matinee episode with Nat We love hearing from our listeners! Leave us a voice message , write to the show email , or send us a DM on any of our socials. If our conversations support you in your own reframing practice, please consider a donation on our Patreon...

Mar 15, 202315 minSeason 1Ep. 73

Reframing Missed Moments (Part 1)

This week, we're examining missed moments because we're interested in reframing everything — even moments we've never had! For many of us, there's a temptation to get stuck in the feeling of "what if I had just done that differently..." We bring our reframing energy to an assortment of our own missed moments, in addition to ones from previous guests Jessica Hiemstra and A.J. Schneider, and a poem from Colin James. Links: Being More Than One Thing with Jessica Hiemstra Reframing Money Talks with ...

Mar 08, 202332 minSeason 1Ep. 72

Reframing Money Talks with A.J. Schneider

We've all heard the adage "money talks." Well, today we're reframing how money talks, and how to change the kinds of conversations we have with it. With A.J. Schneider from Beyond the Green Coaching, we talk strategies, we talk budgeting, we talk money in relationships — and then she encourages us to go one step further and really dig deep into our potential traumas (which we may not have known about!) that we have with money. Link: Check out the Debt and Savings Bundle from Beyond the Green Coa...

Mar 01, 202347 minSeason 1Ep. 71

Rewind: Reframing Community with Ian Williams

This week, in celebration of Black History Month, we are coming back to one of our favourite interviews with poet, essayist, and novelist Ian Williams, whose brain we really connected with. His book of essays, Disorientation: Being Black in the World , is thought-provoking and beautiful — all the things a book of essays should be. Ian Williams is the author of six books of fiction, nonfiction, and poetry. His latest book, Disorientation, considers the impact of racial encounters on ordinary peop...

Feb 22, 202335 min

Reframing Valentine's Day

We're here to reframe Valentine's Day with an episode that's short and sweet (because maybe you have chocolate to eat). Some people love the holiday, some folks hate it — we’re not opposed to what Valentine’s Day represents, but are definitely here for a new perspective on what it could mean! Is it just a sentimental “love day” or possibly a new take on freedom? Or is it better if we just think of it as another day that ends in Y? Link: The Myth of Saint Valentine's Day by Sophie Strand We love ...

Feb 15, 202313 minSeason 1Ep. 70

Reframing "The Sex Talk" with Emily Roach

Today we're reframing how we talk about sex with kids with sex-positivity communicator Emily Roach — whose loyal and growing following on TikTok suggest that we're not the only ones looking for this conversation. We talk about creating spaces for judgement-free conversations, healing our own relationship to sex, and ways of speaking about consent. Listen in and we hope you learn some new words — we did! Links: Hey Sweetie Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski Jessica Valenti For more from Emily, chec...

Feb 08, 202333 minSeason 1Ep. 69
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