¶ Quantum Physics and Law of Attraction
Hi , I'm Sabrina Soto . I believe the best conversations are with friends who are really able to open themselves up and share their lives , both the good parts and the bad . You're going to be listening to some of those candid conversations and hopefully gaining some insight to help you redesign your life from the inside out . Thank you for joining us .
Mary Beth Schroeder , I met you through another podcast and what I loved about you were on a guest and what I loved is you sort of described the law of attraction and manifestation and vibrations and frequency , which I think a lot of people can get confused about because it gets a little too esoteric and you really sort of just simplified everything and I thought
I think my listeners would love us to have a conversation about that , because I feel like a lot of people are in transition right now and seem lost and I am including myself , and I think we all need a refresher sometimes .
Absolutely , absolutely , and I agree with everything you said . So I guess the most simple way , like if we're talking quantum physics and law of attraction , is just to know , first off , that everything is energy and everything is made up of the same energy . But the only difference is things vibrate at different rates , speeds , levels , so it's organized differently .
So , like something really dense , like this table , is vibrating really slowly , you know , and , um , higher frequency , things are vibrating fast . So that's the main thing , but we're all connected at this energetic level . We're all connected .
So what that tells you with quantum physics is that everything's consciousness , everything is , and what that tells you is we got to be creative with our consciousness , right , we need to be creative , conscious beings , which we are , and that is what my coaching is all about is helping people remember their power and remember all of the ways that we can actually
influence our day . We are not victims and we shouldn't be living this life by default .
I want to get all into that and I think this is going to get really meaty this conversation . But why don't you sort of explain to my listeners what you do and how you came across coaching in this capacity ?
Yeah , sure . So my whole life I've been actually really into spirituality and I've always had just interesting paranormal and spiritual experiences that I totally get sound crazy to people who've never had firsthand experiences . I get it .
I didn't have that option in my life because I've always had that , and when I was 18 , I had what I call a quantum experience , and now these days it's it's coined as a spiritually transformative experience and it happens to a lot of people . But I was only 18 and this was back in 1992 . Okay , and so there was no internet .
I did not know what was happening to me , all I was doing . I was completely sober , by the way I was reading Thank you for clarifying , because there was no plant medicine , there was nothing . I wasn't even meditating .
I was just reading a book on near-death experiences and what I believe happened now is my soul , my spirit , remembered like , oh yeah , I was kind of awakened from my amnesia . We all come into this incarnation forgetting who we truly are , forgetting we are all connected to God and how powerful we are . So I think it woke me up just reading that book .
Some people do years and decades of meditation and breath work and everything just try to or plant medicine , anything to try to get a glimpse . And I was there for two weeks and it was quantum . It was like I was getting all of these downloads and information about quantum physics , everything Anytime I had a question . It was just so I knew .
I knew like I just think something and I'm telepathically getting the answer . That's what I mean by downloads for your listeners who might not know what that means .
I use the same term downloads .
Yeah , it was magical , you know , getting blocks of thought . Blocks of thought that's what Abraham Hicks would call it and um , but I didn't know who that was back then and I try to tell people about my experience .
And everybody thought I was loco , completely a kook , because , and I get it I thought I was loco , completely a kook because , and I get it , it doesn't sound reasonable , but these days I found a lot of people because of the internet that have had very similar experiences . But mine lasted about two weeks and then I slowly , I was in this highest vibration .
You can imagine , basically , I've never had it since then , by the way , since I was 18 , not , not like that , not for two weeks straight .
And then I slowly started to vibrate out of that , just slowly , over time , and at the end of that two weeks I was completely like , honestly , it was sad because I got depressed , because I vibrated back down , and then the contrast was just unimaginable to how amazing you could feel . It was bliss .
It was bliss , it was love , like I felt just oneness , connected to God and everybody and everything that's . The thing is we're all made up of the same energy and I was able to see that I was in that quantum world where I was able to actually see we are all connected at this energetic level .
So from there on out , I think that was a long way of answering your question .
That's how I got into coaching , and you coach people into sort of getting out of their own way , but even teenagers and people in recovery as well , right , Absolutely so .
I'd like to help people heal their relationships and also addictions . Those are my main things that I do . And what are addictions ? A lot of people are like , oh , I don't have any addictions , but you know , addiction is so much more than alcohol and drugs .
Um , we can actually be addicted to , and most people are overthinking and negative thinking about ourself , which , when we're talking about consciousness , think about , you're literally creating your reality . So if you're thinking negative thoughts about yourself , guess what ? You're creating that in your physical reality all day , every day .
And we need to really be mindful and be present and aware of our thoughts . And this is something that I work on every day , sabrina . It's not something that you just do and you're like okay , I've reached my goal , I got my degree and this ? No , you actually have to focus every day on being mindful , just being present .
It's great to say daily affirmations , but we also want to feel it . Law of attraction is so much more about feeling than our thoughts , because if we have those thoughts but we don't feel it too , then we're not actually going to manifest it . So it's getting that mind and heart coherence .
We have to have both , because our thoughts are electric and our hearts are magnetic and we are electromagnetic beings .
There is science behind this . I mean Einstein . Energy matter interchangeable . Our thoughts are energy and they vibrate at a frequency and whether you're thinking really great thoughts or bad thoughts , it is attracting like a magnet , like you mentioned things towards you . So you mentioned earlier about this experience that you had at 18 .
I think a lot of people listening feel like , well , I'm never going to experience that , I've never experienced that in my life and I have only experienced glimpses of that in deep meditation . For someone who really feels like they're in a rut . What do you tell clients ? What sort of tools do you give them ?
Or what sort of exercises would you give a client who feels a bit stuck in their life ?
of a client who feels a bit stuck in their life . Yeah , so the first step in healing anything is self-awareness , because 95% of our day , every day , is run on subconscious programming . So only 5% of our day are most people being conscious creators . That's when we're in the creative mode , when we're actually conscious and aware of what we're doing .
And then , out of that 95% , that subconscious programming , about 80 to 85% is considered negative , negative thoughts , and we're doing the same stuff as the day before . And then we wonder why isn't my life changing ? Well , you've got to break out of that subconscious programming . So the way to do that is just by being really present and aware of your thoughts .
What are you saying ? What are you thinking ? You could do affirmations and at first the affirmations are going to feel , you know , like we're lying to ourselves .
Yeah , that's the thing you're saying .
¶ Manifesting With Self-Worth and Action
I completely understand and believe and know to be true that unless you actually believe what you're trying to manifest , that you're worthy of it , which comes down to self-esteem it won't come towards you . So how would an affirmation work if you don't necessarily believe it ?
You know repetition works . Also , what I do with my coaching one-on-one is I'm able to actually see pretty easily somebody's limiting beliefs , their subconscious programming . The hardest thing for people to see is themselves and that's why they could really benefit from a coach or someone .
And if you can't hire a coach , there's a lot of free information out there on the internet , on YouTube videos . You could do guided meditations and breath work anything that's going to raise your vibration . I created a deck of cards called Addiction Recovery with the Law of Attraction , because I had a problem .
I had an unhealthy relationship with alcohol which I didn't even realize and it just took me a long time to realize . When I actually added a niche of addiction recovery and I was reading about addiction , I was like holy moly , this is me . I recognized myself in this addiction and so what I did is actually my cards were a download , another download .
I was in the really high vibration , walking my dog in the Abraham Hicks cause , it being in the vortex . I was definitely there in nature , beautiful day and my mind was actually kind of blank , which is unusual , so I was in that's what's called receiving mode . I was in receiving mode and suddenly I just got this full download of that .
I needed to do this deck of cards to help people recover from addiction and to do it in a spiritual way , so that's kind of like . What I do the most is spiritual recovery . I'm a spiritual transformation um coach , so that's what I , that's what of like . What I do the most is spiritual recovery .
I'm a spiritual transformation coach , so that's what I , that's what I try to help people do . And I made this deck of cards . Of course , you take action on it , right ? A lot of people think the law of attraction is just all about um , thinking positive thoughts , sitting on a meditation cushion and just hoping things come to you .
But that's just a , you know , that's just a small piece of it . That's great , but we also need to take inspired action . So that's what I did with my cards , because when something , an idea , goes out there , when we're inspired that way , anyone on that frequency is also receiving that idea , and I think that's happened to a lot of people .
Probably a lot of your listeners could say , yeah , you know what ? I had this great idea . I didn't act on it and , like , within a year , I saw somebody else there . There there's my idea . Why didn't I do anything , you know , and so the people who actually act on it , they're the ones who have it manifested .
So part of manifesting is actually taking action too .
And we're manifesting all day , but I do . I heard of a story that Prince wanted to create some piece of music . Was it you that was talking about this ? I ?
talked about that in his on a psychic story that he said like they had .
All of the band members had to get into the studio really late at night because if he didn't create it , that another artist would , and I think that is yeah , but I think that is true and I think what you're saying is the inspired action is important , and even more important is having that moment of silence in our day , and I think now more than ever , with
social media and the internet and our smartphones and iPads and everything , we are in a state of constant noise , and when we are in a state of constant noise and doing , it is very difficult to get inspiration or signals or some new idea , because we never allow that space . So I think that that really is important .
Especially , I've noticed in my own life the , the ideas , the creativity that comes out of my life comes in those moments rather than in the doing . Would you say that's true in yours as well ?
You totally nailed it . You totally nailed it and it's funny because I talked about this a lot . When I'm in the shower , I always get these crazy ideas . I'm connected and part of that , I think , is the water conducive electrical right , right .
If everything's energy , it has to be , because I feel the same way when I take showers or when I take a long bath . It's like this cleansing .
Yes , plus the other part is what you were saying we don't have any distractions , we're unplugged .
Well , actually , sometimes I bring my phone into the shower , which is weird . Yeah , I know , I know I'm going to stop doing that .
You know what you sound like . You're a little bit like me , so what I've started to do recently is go on walks and be out in nature without my phone , and it's hard to do because we're so addicted to our phones . That's another addiction . We got food , we got work . A lot of people are addicted to work .
Some people are addicted to people 100% .
That's actually the majority of my clients right now are in relationships that are toxic and codependent , and it's so I'm working on them with that addiction and , you know , going back into their subconscious programming and you know what was it that attracted them to this person and why is it so hard to break free from it ?
A lot of that's just our programming and there's , there's a way out of it .
Anybody listening going through a horrible breakup or in a relationship where they feel like they're never going to get over just a side note . I need to talk to you for a second . Just trust me it , you can get through it and it there is a way out , and you're not always going to feel this way .
So that's just a complete side note , Cause I could do an entire podcast about addiction to people .
Oh yeah , you could do an entire series , because same here . You know , anything that I teach is something that I've healed from . I have been in the toxic relationships I had addiction . I mean you mentioned um , what an earlier talk that we had addiction to love . I believe I had that .
You know I had that and get yourself in these bad situations and I think I might've acted impulsively . I have a very highly addictive personality , Like like I've been told by a psychic , the highest possible .
So that's another reason to have for your listeners to have hope , Because if I can break my food addiction , my sugar addiction , addiction to caffeine , addiction to alcohol , I sound like a lot of fun , right , I don't do any of those things anymore , but I feel so much better and I have so much energy and life is so much more fun , and I you could have not
convinced me of that , though , when I was in the middle of all that addiction . You could have not told me that life could be so much better . Everything is better . I have .
I've done the podcast for a few years and I was able to have Holly Whitaker , who wrote the book , quit like a woman and it's to this day one of the highest downloads of any episode that I've done .
And I think that there are a lot of people that are dealing with an addiction whether it's alcohol or love or food or shopping that are really in a state of shame to be able to say it out loud , and so they find the healing in listening to podcasts in secret because they don't really want to share it with their family and friends .
And I think , especially after COVID , a lot of people are dealing with that . So for me , I think that there is a lack of self-esteem there of not feeling enough , worthy enough to live a beautiful life and self-medicating with shopping or food or people or alcohol or whatever cigarettes .
Or trying to fill a void . Oh , I had every addiction . To be honest with you , anything good , I wasn't I , I , I wasn't good at moderation . That's just not my thing . And there's a saying um , I think it's St Augustine that abstinence is easier than perfect moderation . And boy , that's the truth for me .
And then you know , it's the people listening Some people can moderate , some people , and that's great , that just . But if you're like me , you know you you're more like a dial than a switch , like I mean , actually it's the opposite , you're more like a switch than a dial Like a moderate , correct . I'm all or nothing type of person .
So , um , I had , I chose abstinence because I was never able to get to that perfect moderation and some people can but also I wanted to .
I wanted to say , like you said earlier and I wanted to circle back because it was so true about self-worth , most issues , most of the time , when people find , well , I can't manifest , this law of attraction is not working for me , it's because all of it is subconscious programming with some variation of I am not worthy , so you can't really manifest anything .
That's outside of your personal belief system . So that's why , like having a coach or really listening to podcasts , like you're saying , if you can't afford a coach , getting involved with following people like follow me , follow Sabrina . We talk about law of attraction and things like that on our Instagram .
Well , I don't know if you do , but I talk about law of attraction on Instagram . Follow people who actually know how the law of attraction really works . It's not just about positive thinking .
It's called the work for a reason you actually need to dig in and figure out the root cause of your unworthiness and you change those beliefs and then , therefore , you're able to change what you're able to manifest . Because , then ? Because we're always manifesting . What are you ? Are you manifesting negative things or positive things ?
Cause law of attraction works both ways . It works . People think it's only for the positive but it's not .
You know , when I watched the secret a long time ago , back in 2006 , I it was this weird feeling , I think , probably very close to the experience you had when you were 18 , because it was almost like , oh my gosh , I know this .
It something clicked inside of me that I felt um energized , as if somebody was just reminding me of something that I already knew . But what excited me the most of watching that is that I realized how much power I had of had to take control of my own life and my own success or things that I wanted to bring .
Because I think when I first watched the Secret , I felt like everything was up to everyone else in my life . The opportunities that were going to come to me weren't up to me , it was who was going to give me that opportunity . And for the first time I realized that I have the power to bring the opportunity to me .
And what I do know for a fact is the universe can be fast . The universe can be very fast , delivering whatever you want , if you take inspired action , really believe that you're worthy of it , and if it does require the participation of a lot of other people instead of just maybe something you want to fast manifest on your own .
That can take a little bit more time because things need to be brought into your orbit .
So everything needs to vibration line up and not everybody's going to be a vibrational match and in that same frequency , but it's .
it can happen way faster if you get into alignment and I think you know , again talking about the science behind that , everything is energy . You were saying , like the table , of course it's vibrating at much slower vibration , but we are all energy and it's about being a magnet to bring those good things in .
How would you , how would you give somebody um , I don't , I don't know how to say it , but like the baby steps of getting this started , because I think a lot of people , especially if you're black and white , they go well , I want to quit this habit , start like quitting it all together today . Just that's too much .
I think it's powerful even to take baby steps . Do you agree ?
100% . A lot of it's just self-awareness and repetition . So noticing , catching yourself during the day like , oh , I just did that . Interrupting your patterns is a good way of saying it , because we all have patterns .
And just really being mindful , trying to be in the present moment , because most of us aren't , we're thinking about something from our past that happened . We all have patterns .
And just really being mindful , trying to be in the present moment , cause most of us aren't , we're thinking about something that from our past that happened , or we're worried about the future . So all of our like Eckhart Tolle would say , all of our power is now , it's in this moment . So , as as often as possible .
Um , instead of if you can't meditate for a long period of time maybe you're like me and you have a bit of a monkey brain and you're all over the place there's something called meditation supplements , where you could just be present while you're drinking your tea or coffee , just being present . It doesn't have to be so .
That's a great baby step , because you don't have to do this long drawn out meditations .
I feel like a lot of people go forget it . First of all , I don't have the 20 minutes to meditate . Don't think I can do 20 minutes of meditation , so I just won't do it at all .
It's like no , even if you do that thing , if you don't have 20 minutes to meditate , you need to meditate a lot longer than 20 minutes .
I you know , I learned that in transcendental meditation but I do believe that even two minutes of doing it , and one thing that I started doing for myself which is new and I just started implementing this in the last year of my life is when I do take baby steps to to do a new habit , even if I go walk around the block when before I just if I said well
, I don't have an hour to work out , so I'm not going to do it at all . I will do that . Those small , little mini wins in my day at the end of the day when I'm brushing my teeth and it sounds corny , so just bear with me .
But I just look at myself in the mirror while I'm brushing my teeth and after I brush my teeth I just say I'm so proud of you , I'm so proud of you , and it's one of the last things I look at myself and say and I do feel like that has been helping my self-esteem it's those little , tiny , micro changes that I've been making that have transformed my entire
life .
Yeah , what you're talking about is neuroplasticity . It just takes tiny little things to rewire your brain .
¶ Changing Your Brain, Redefining Your Reality
We used to believe or psychology used to believe that we're just stuck with the . You know , our brain is just the way it is and you can't learn any . You know , you can't teach an old dog new tricks . But that's not true . We actually can completely rewire our brain , and that's what I did . Like , I changed my identity .
I am no longer that person who used to go and order red wine , you know , every time she went out to eat dinner or lunch , sometimes , you know , a mimosa or whatever . Yeah , I'm no longer that person . Like , I took it out of . It's not an option . It's no longer an option .
I changed my identity , um , in order , like Joe Dispenza Dr Joe Dispenza , he's a fabulous person to follow Um , he says you know , in order to change your personal reality , you need to change your personality . So you just need to do that . Um , it's , it's . You can't just keep doing the same old stuff and expecting different results .
What's that's the definition of crazy , right or insanity ? You got to make these changes and something that I want to talk about with law of attraction , because I don't want to forget to say it , because it tripped me up for so long . It's like the one thing I couldn't connect the dots on and it's so important because I'm sitting there .
I'm a law of attraction expert , right ? I've been studying this since 2006 , just like you . That's when the light bulb I was like oh yeah , this is what I've been trying to tell people . When I think this way and feel this way , this happens . I always noticed that my whole life . But then that movie put the name on it the secret , the law of attraction .
So I kept attracting things that I didn't want , and I'm going to talk specifically about relationships . I kept attracting men who you could call a narcissist , like very manipulative , controlling , and I used to be like but we attract what we are and I'm not manipulative , I'm not controlling .
And it used to bother me and I couldn't reconcile this , like how is this happening ? And I'm doing everything right , I'm keeping a high vibe . Well , that's when I learned from Greg Braden Greg with two Gs , greg Braden , another wonderful person .
Oh , I'm writing that down .
Greg Braden . He did an expansion , definitely write it down . He did an expansion on law of attraction Greg Braden , seven mirrors . I'll send you the link after this , but for your audience , look up type in Greg Braden seven mirrors of the Essenes . It's an expansion on law of attraction , and the main one that I was stuck on was we attract .
We don't only attract what we are , we also attract what we judge , and I had a huge judgment of people who lied , people who cheated and manipulated . I judged the crap out of them and so that's why it kept showing up in my life . I also focused on it and anything this is law of attraction 101 , anything we focus on gets bigger , it grows , see it more .
And what am I doing ? I'm focusing on my ex or something , you know who , who was this way , and then I keep seeing this show show up in my life in different forms , different men , and I'm like but I know I'm not this way . So we don't only attract what we are . And there's six other mirrors he talks about , but judgment was the one that I could .
I didn't know about that . I was recreating the same pattern over in my life and what it is is , it's anything .
We have an energetic spark with , so I so you know I'm putting that empty so that is so important and I just made all of your listeners advanced because that was something that I didn't know for so long and I just like I got chills when you just told that story because I I went through the same situation years ago where I was attracting relationships that were
really unhealthy and I started looking within the same way that you and then I started almost panicking like am I ? Am I a narcissist ? And then I , like I just went sort of down this spiral and it is true because I did have a lot of judgment on people who were dishonest . Mike Dooley , who's one of my favorite new thought teachers .
He's also been on this podcast . He always says thoughts become things . So you're just throwing it out in the universe whether you want to complain about the same coworker every single day or your mother-in-law every single day . You're perpetuating the situation and I believe that stopping for me gossiping and stop .
I of course I still complain because I'm a human being and it just feels good sometimes , but yeah , but stopping myself and my one of my best friends , trish and I , we talk about law of attraction , manifestation . We have to stop each other from complaining when we get on the phone and I'll be like , nope , no , we're not doing this .
So even catching yourself doing those small little things and the judgment that you just talked about , the judgment , which was a huge thing for me too , stopping the judgment . Gabby Bernstein has the book Judgment Detox great book , by the way but I think that is a big part too of the law of attraction .
And creating the life of your dream is to be able to be in the now , in your own space , and to understand that we are all connected . We're all trying to do our best . Wait , I want to tell one quick story .
I was in a work situation many years ago that was really horrible , and every time I would walk into work , it was just this I was sad , I was hurt , I felt , um , that I wasn't . I felt disrespected and I was working with a coach at the time and she had told me to reframe it .
And , mary Beth , I swear it seems like magic , but I instead in the morning thought , okay , they're doing their best . They want the , you know the same sort of best product , just like I do .
We're all in this together and which sounds crazy , because this person , these people , these two people in particular , were still , I thought , going to be jerks , but they weren't . And I walked into work that day and sort of everything shifted .
So you do have the power to put in better thoughts , to create a better atmosphere , no matter how bad you think it is .
Right , you know that I have so many stories like that in my own life too , and and here's another golden nugget so , um , if you've been in a toxic relationship and you want to stop the way , this is how you apply it , because we can't just tell people don't judge , like , how do I not , how do I not judge , you know , and it's like a pattern and this is
just , this is it's true , like a lot of times it is true , like that person did victimize you and they , you know , it's not like you're saying anything , that's not true . But so here's how you heal with , with , um , the toxic relationship . This is what worked for me . Um , I start to think of them , of someone who treated me poorly .
They were with compassion , okay , they were once a baby , they were a clean slate , you know , and something happened to them . And isn't it sad that they feel as though they have to lie and manipulate to earn your love ? Isn't it sad ? You know ?
you start to just , not in an egotistical way , like where you're like looking down on them , but just think about it with compassion because , yeah , because we , if somebody who's confident , for instance , isn't going to do that , they're not going to go out of their way to manipulate people , they're just , they're just going to be themselves and they're not going to
try to um , lie and cheat and steal there's , there's definitely something that happened to these people that they're , they're , they're acting in that way . So I think it's just really important to get to that place of compassion . Compassion so then then you can get to nonjudgment .
It's , it's and it's a journey , and then you're going to find yourself judging again and you just don't be mad at yourself , just catch yourself and and analyze things and witness . You know , we had an earlier conversation we were talking about . Neither one of us are positive vibes only people . You need to feel your feelings .
That's another important thing to anyone listening . Feel your feelings . We're not saying only think positive thoughts all the time . Use your thoughts as indicators , use your thoughts as guidance . That's your emotional guidance system .
And Abraham Hicks has a little story that they tell of where you know , just like if you're driving your car and you're running low on gas , you see it's almost on E . You don't just put a happy face sticker over it . You want to know you're on E and that's what our emotions are doing for us .
They're letting us know hey , there's something that you need to shift here , there's something that you need to do , there's an action you need to take , and the baby steps would be okay . Well , I'm feeling very anxious or fearful about something , and you don't expect to jump straight up to joy . But there's always going to be a better feeling thought .
There's always going to be something that you could feel better than you do right now . And then there's things you could do , like go take a walk , like you said earlier , get out in nature If you have animals , go pet your cat , go pet your play with your dog .
It could be just listening to positive messaging , getting on YouTube and just finding all of this free information , people who are already where you want to be , let them be your role model . That's what I hope that I am to people a role model for someone .
Hey , if I can do it with my high addictive personality , highly addictive personality , literally anyone can do it . You know , being a role model , that is what I hope to be to people most .
I could talk to you for hours about this . I , for anyone listening , I'm going to put Mary Beth's information in the notes her Instagram , her website to get in touch with her . And also for anyone listening , like you and I , we both said we've been really studying this for so many years .
Also , for anyone listening , like you and I , we both said we've been really studying this for so many years , healing is not linear and I still have
¶ Daily Self-Care Practices for Addiction Recovery
a roller coaster . I still need to be reminded . And just like working out , you don't work out once and build muscle and then you're done . It's like you constantly have to do that . So , podcast , meditation , youtube , it's daily work and it's fun . It doesn't have to inundate your entire life , um , but it's just about the baby steps . Thank you so much .
You have to come back because I wanted to offer you something .
I wanted to offer your audience something , um so my addiction recovery with law of attraction cards for for your listeners . If they use the coupon code Sabrina , um , they can get 25% off of those cards on my website .
I'll put that in the notes too . Thank you so much . You're so generous . I'll put that in the notes . So if anybody wants to get a deck of cards , thank you , thank you . Thank you so much , it was so much fun .
I appreciate it , thank you .
