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Principle of Charity

Emile Sherman, Lloyd Vogelmanshows.acast.com

Are you ready to burst your filter bubble? To hit pause on righteous anger? Principle of Charity injects curiosity and generosity back into difficult conversations, bringing together two expert guests with opposing views on big social issues.



But here’s the twist: as well as passionately advocating their own views, each guest is challenged to present the best, most generous version of the other’s argument.



This unique format comes from an ancient idea - the principle of charity - which tells us to seek the truth, not to win the fight; to truly understand the other before we instinctively reject them.



The podcast is hosted by Emile Sherman and Lloyd Vogelman. Emile is an Academy and Emmy Award-winning film & TV producer who’s obsessively curious about ideas and holds onto the naïve belief that a generous conversion is still the best way to get to the truth. Lloyd has a doctorate in psychology, spent years as a leader in the fight against apartheid before building reconciliation in South Africa, and describes himself as a recovering extremist who’s passionate about the potential to change our minds.


@PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.


You can find Emile at: @EmileSherman on Twitter, @EmileSherman on Linkedin,


You can find Lloyd at: @Lloydvogelman on Linkedin

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Producers:


Jonah Primo - Find at Jonahprimo.com or @Jonahprimo on Instagram


Bronwen Reid





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Episodes

The Basics of Bad Faith

In this episode we go back to basics and look at the practical ways of communicating the principle of charity and how certain behaviours over time have been developed for social cohesion, even when we don’t all agree.   With our special guests –  moral philosopher Dr Tim Dean and festival director Danielle Harvey – we have a wide-ranging discussion on what communicating in good faith looks like, what bad faith is, and how to navigate tricky topics. We discuss ways to have hard conversa...

Oct 17, 202344 minSeason 1Ep. 45

Can AI Create Art? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests, Ahmed Elgammal and Michael Sacasas In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find ...

Aug 21, 202336 minSeason 1Ep. 44

Can AI create Art?

In 2022, an AI generated work of art won a US state art competition. The artist used Midjourney, one of the popular AI systems that also include Dall-E and Stable Diffusion. They are trained on the millions of images scattered through the internet, using a deep learning program called a ‘generative adversarial network’, or GAN for short. It works by taking in text prompts, where you type in what you want the artwork to look like, and the AI then draws on the huge database of artworks, to generat...

Aug 14, 202352 minSeason 1Ep. 43

Christianity Vs Islam Pt.2 On the Couch

With guests, Professor Mohamad Abdalla and Professor Robyn Horner In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Link...

Jul 24, 202334 minSeason 1Ep. 42

Christianity vs Islam: Which Offers the Best Path to Salvation?

Christianity and Islam are the two biggest religions on the globe, accounting for just over half the world’s population combined. Most of us know about the religion we belong to and too often learn about other religions from the actions of extreme fundamentalists, mediated by the news, and by politics.  In this episode we go back to basics, to find out what Christianity and Islam actually believe. What are the essential building blocks of their theology? What do you need to believe as ...

Jul 17, 20231 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 41

Should We Embrace Shame? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests, Dr Patti Ashley and Dr Tanveer Ahmed. In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Fi...

Jun 26, 202338 minSeason 1Ep. 40

Shame on You! Should we Embrace Shame?

It’s said that the world can be divided into shame based and guilt based cultures, with the west sitting firmly in the guilt side. This is because the west has prioritised this idea of the individual, with our sense of right and wrong a matter between ourself and whatever higher power we ascribe to – whether it's our god, the state laws, or our conscious itself.    In the west, guilt is seen as an appropriate and even productive emotion, with shame as the corrosive cousin. But in shame...

Jun 19, 202359 minSeason 1Ep. 39

On the Couch with Emile, Lloyd and Jonah

Hosts Emile and Lloyd discuss some of the highlights of the past two years and run a slide rule over the Principle of Charity mission to inject curiosity and generosity back into our conversations on big social issues. They ponder if the show should be more volatile and tick off the hot topics they want to canvas with expert guests. AI for starters.  “There’s a topic I want to look at, which is can AI create art,” says Emile. “I guess it goes to the core of what makes us human.  I feel...

Jun 05, 20231 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 38

Are Things Getting Better or Worse? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests Francisco Ferreira and Emma Varvaloucas In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   F...

May 15, 202332 minSeason 1Ep. 37

Are Things Getting Better or Worse?

How should we think and feel about so many things that are still so so bad, but, crucially here, so much better, than they were. Consider child mortality. Apparently, five million children under 5 died in the last year. Yet that number has more than halved in the last 30 years, which is again a huge reduction from the 20 million children under 5 who died each year in 1950. What do we do with information like this? Five million child deaths is an unacceptable tragedy. At the same time, ...

May 08, 202354 minSeason 1Ep. 36

Who has it Harder: Women or Men? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests, Caroline Lambert and Matt Tyler In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emi...

Apr 17, 202338 minSeason 1Ep. 35

Who has it Harder: Women or Men?

Women have, by and large, lived under the yoke of patriarchy, in various forms, for as long as… well, certainly as long as civilisations have existed. So it’s with some trepidation, and a little bit of cheekiness, that we’re airing the headwinds that face women alongside those that face men.    There’s the danger of moral equivalence, where two views are put side by side, giving the impression that they’re both of equal weight, when they’re clearly not. And if our lens was the world as...

Apr 10, 20231 hrSeason 1Ep. 34

On Creativity Pt. 2 On the Couch with Jane Campion

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter. &n...

Mar 20, 202333 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Oscar Special: Spotlight with Jane Campion - On Creativity

Spotlight with Jane Campion: can creativity help us leap outside ourselves? Multiple academy award winning writer and director Jane Campion (The Piano The Power of the Dog) joins Emile and Lloyd for a fascinating conversation on creativity and how it can change and enhance our understanding of each other.  Jane explains her creative practices and in particular her use of dream therapy to tap into the subconscious and write characters like Phil Burbank, the protagonist in The Power of the Do...

Mar 12, 202351 minSeason 1Ep. 32

Nature VS Nurture Pt 4: On the Couch with Michele Borba

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter. &n...

Feb 27, 202322 minSeason 1Ep. 31

Nature Vs Nurture Pt 3: The Alternate View on Moulding Kids with Michele Borba

Thirty years talking to kids, parents and teachers and analyzing data from across the globe, has led US educator Michele Borba  to a categoric conclusion:  parents can indeed  shape those character strengths of their children that will ultimately determine how successful they are in life.   So what are the character traits that can be moulded and how should parents go about doing it in ways that a child will respond to?  Can you teach resilience and optimism? Emile ...

Feb 20, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 30

Nature VS Nurture Pt 2: On the Couch with Robert Plomin

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter. &n...

Feb 06, 202332 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Nature VS Nurture Pt 1: Can We Mould Our Kids With Geneticist Robert Plomin

Behavioural geneticist Robert Plomin’s book Blueprint, How DNA Makes Us Who We Are has changed lives. Robert is arguably the leading figure in behavioural genetics, working across the field for many decades. In his book Blueprint, he shows us the extraordinary evidence for our genetic nature being the absolutely dominant force in predicting who we are and will become. In fact about 50% of everything we care about is predicted by our genes. Not just our weight and height, but schizophrenia, anxie...

Jan 30, 20231 hr 1 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Should we Move Towards or Away from Triggers? Pt 2. On the Couch

with guests Victoria Bridgland and Nicole Bedera, In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Fin...

Jan 23, 202334 minSeason 1Ep. 27

TRIGGER WARNING!: Should we Move Towards or Away from Triggers?

Trigger warnings have become common practice these days, not just in university campuses, but across the media landscape, in film, television, online and social media. They warn us that the material we’re about to see or hear might trigger distress. But what actually is a trigger? And what’s it meant to protect us from? Trigger warnings were originally linked with post traumatic stress disorder - the idea being that those who have been through a traumatic event, for example sexual violence, and ...

Jan 16, 20231 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"The world has never been more connected. Yet never more divided. We yell at each other from inside our echo chambers. But change doesn’t happen inside an echo chamber." - Uncomfortable Conversations This week Emile and Lloyd guest on Josh's show. If you'd like to send questions to Lloyd and Emile for our upcoming AMA, email [email protected], or ask on our twitter @pofcharity     ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity ...

Dec 19, 20221 hr 28 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Is Complementary (Alternative) Medicine Helpful? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests Dr Norman Swan and Dr Penny Caldicott In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.       ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Fin...

Dec 05, 202232 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Is Complementary (Alternative) Medicine Helpful?

What do we do when we don’t feel well and mainstream western medicine can’t seem to help us. Maybe it’s an irritable bowel, headaches that come too frequently, chronic fatigue or joint pain that just won’t go away. Maybe it’s more serious - a life-threatening diagnosis of cancer, or a neurological condition like parkinsons, and we are told by doctors that there’s no cure or they have limited treatment options. In all these cases, how should we assess complementary medicine?  The alternative...

Nov 28, 202253 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Does Traditional Journalism Stifle the Truth? Pt. 2 On the Couch with Claire Lehmann.

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity. ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.   This Podcast is ...

Nov 14, 202227 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Spotlight with Claire Lehmann: Does Traditional Journalism Stifle the Truth?

Australian Claire Lehmann left university and founded the online magazine Quillette  to counter what she saw as an orthodoxy in knowledge coming from the progressive left. Claire perceived a lack of rigor in the humanities where, it seemed to her,  ideology was trumping evidence. Since its inception as a start-up in 2015, Quillette has gone on to achieve an international reputation for free speech advocacy, political commentary and journalism, appealing to as many as two million follow...

Nov 07, 202236 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Should We Care About Inequality? Pt. 2 On the Couch with Russ Roberts

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has a more relaxed conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity. Monday, 9 August 2021 6:30 PM ~~   You can be part of the discussion @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.   Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.   Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in   Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and T...

Oct 24, 202222 minSeason 1Ep. 20

Should We Care About Inequality? With Russ Roberts

Internationally recognised economist, educator and host of the podcast EconTalk, Dr Russ Roberts, discusses wealth and inequality under capitalism and questions whether there is real harm in inequality. Rather, in distinguishing inequality from poverty he says it’s the damage from poverty, not inequality, that’s more deserving of public concern and political focus. In a wide ranging discussion, we discuss whether the rich really deserve their spoils, how rigged the system actually is, and whethe...

Oct 17, 202243 minSeason 1Ep. 19

Should Racial Identity Form a Basis for Politics? Pt. 2 On the Couch

With guests, Chloe Valdary and Ian Haney Lopez In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an uninhibited conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity. Chloe Valdary Chloe is the founder of the Theory of Enchantment, a conflict resolution model for businesses and workplaces that was developed by Chloe. It places compassion at the centre of diversity inclusion training and, as she puts it, endeavours to fight bigotry with love. ...

Oct 03, 20221 hrSeason 1Ep. 18

Identity Politics: Should Racial Identity Form a Basis for Politics?

International scholar and doyen of critical race theory Prof Ian Haney Lopez and writer and entrepreneur Chloe Valdary are powerful voices in the strident and polarising debates surrounding identity politics. In this episode, we explore the shift in the understanding of racism, from the traditional liberal notion that we should treat everyone equally, to a politics actually based on race consciousness and racial identity.  We look at where this shift is helpful, and where it might be less h...

Sep 26, 202251 minSeason 1Ep. 17

How Do We Know What’s True? On the Couch with Jonathan Rauch

In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has a more relaxed conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity. US writer and author of The Constitution of Knowledge Jonathan Rauch, explains what ‘truth’ is and why and how we must defend it. In a fascinating account of how liberal democracies ‘produce’ knowledge, Jonathan describes this unwritten ‘constitution of knowledge’ as a global process of error checking with millions of people ...

Sep 12, 202224 minSeason 1Ep. 16
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