New Year.
How you doing, friends, It's twenty twenty five, and here we are together, as if we were really together. It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott, and the Twelve Days of Preston continues on this.
First day of the new year.
It's Wednesday, January first, and it's show number ten of the twelve Days of p which means the month of October seems just yesterday, doesn't it? Leading into the election. Everybody grinding their teeth. No one's sleeping. Well, well I was sleeping just like a baby. But forget about me. Let's talk about you.
Now.
We're going to relive the month of October here, twenty twenty four, on the twelve days.
This day number ten, and.
It's good to be with you. We'll get to this date and history January first, in mere moments, but as we are inclined to do, we will start with some scripture. This is the best scripture to start the year, with Philippians three thirteen forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead. Now, I want to just take.
A second with this. Let me pull up my.
Bible on my phone and it might take me just a quick second here, but there's something significant about that particular verse because when Paul's writing this, and you know the story of Paul, Paul was Saul, not the Old Testament Saul, which preceded David, but Saul as in a persecutor and murderer of Christians before Jesus said let me have a word with you. It was so significant that
encounter that Saul changed his name to Paul. In this verse, Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward toward what lies ahead, I press on and then it goes from there. When this was originally written, that phrase but one thing I do, Paul was sharing
something that was most important to the Philippian Church. That expression one thing I do is more accurately translated is as let me share something that is of most importance. It it goes perfectly with the start of a new year, because a lot of people make resolutions to start the year. Perhaps you are going to have a list of resolutions that you're going to apply beginning today, and that's wonderful.
Paul's talking about a larger spiritual principle here because he recognizes and again I pointed out his background, because think about it as Saul. Paul was responsible for the death of people that he would now call brothers and sisters in Christ. Talk about being weighed down and burdened by bad choices of the past. Oh my goodness. So Paul is challenging you and I to start our year forgetting what is in the past. And we're not talking about
lessons needing to be learned. We're talking about mistakes that have been made. You've sought forgiveness, receive the forgiveness, forgive yourself, forget it and move on. There's an old expression you never know what's ahead. If you're busy looking in the rearview mirror all the time, if you're busy looking over your shoulder, you have no clue what's in front of you. And if you're wayed down and burdened by things in the past that you need to maybe you need to
confess and seek forgiveness and rock on. That's the point of this verse. Focus on what's head.
There you go. That's how we'll start our.
Our first show of the new year. Now the live shows start Monday, but we're here together today to look back at the year twenty twenty four in the month of October specifically, and we'll get to all of that. It's January first. What do we have here? Seventeen fifty two, Betsy Ross said to have so, the first American flag is born in Philadelphia.
Nice.
Abraham Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation. Now, let's take a second with that. It declared all slaves in Confederate Territory to be free. The proclamation stated that as of that day, January first, eighteen sixty three, all persons quoting now held as slaves within any state or designated part of a state in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thence forward, and forever free. Those words changed the Civil War from a fight to save the Union into a
battle for human freedom. Significant significant moment in history. Would it be inappropriate for me to point out that Abraham Lincoln was a member of the Republican Party, the first Republican president, and in fact, part of a party that was founded to end slavery? The legacy of the Republican Party. Eighteen ninety two, Ellis Island begins processing immigrants in New York Harbor. Nineteen o two, the first Rose Bowl played in Pasadena, boy, I've been to that stadium, the Rose Bowl.
It's pretty cool. Got to admit it's pretty cool. Not a bad seat in the house. Michigan defeated Stanford forty nine to nothing ouch, and in nineteen twenty eight, the first air conditioned office building opens in San Antonio, Texas. Man talk about an appropriate place for air conditioning Texas. Yeah, I think so. I think that's that's absolutely that works. But it is a little surprising to me that the
technology debuted in San Antonio, Texas. I guess one would think that it would be in a more industrious part of the country at that stage in our nation's relative ute. As Russelaball would say, all right, we are now underway. When we come back, we begin to unpack the month of October. Key interviews, segments from the Morning Show, some
big stories, different things that we talked about. So don't go anywhere, in fact, hunker down, get yourself something to sip on, maybe to munch on, and enjoy the Twelve Days of Preston, Day number ten. Here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. It's day number ten. We're going to now begin to unpack the tenth month of the year.
See what we're doing there.
Pretty clever, right, And so it's sort of a best of and a chronological look at the year that was. Now that we are in the year twenty twenty five, I can literally say the year that was. And for this particular segment, I pulled out what is one of my favorite interviews of the year, because I'm a huge fan of the band mercy Me, and well, I don't want to get ahead of myself. This is a really cool visit, at least for me, and I think you'll enjoy.
It a lot.
This is kind of giggle and gush time for me because our guest is Mike show Bitzer from mercy Me. Mike is one of the guitarists with the band, has been with Bart Millard for a long time. We're going to talk about that. What's really exciting. They're coming to town on October eleventh. It's a Friday night at the Tuckers Center. I don't have to tell you what a big deal it is to have a group like mercy
Me coming on a Friday. Let's face it, a lot of groups hit Tallahassee on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday on their way to bigger cities on the weekends, and so to have them here is a really big deal. And I think I was the first one to get tickets when this concert was announced.
Mike, Welcome to the show. How are you, sir?
I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me on.
It is a joy to have you. Give me the thumbnail sketch version. What's your story from a kid to a guy making music in a band like Mercy? Me take me through how you got there?
Wow.
So I grew up actually in central Florida, surrounded by Gator fans, and so I'm not going to do this all the way.
You talk about having across to bear, I know right, it's.
Horrible, horrible. No, I had a great child that I was the only child. Mom and dad you know, uh, just blue collar but not owned a lawnmower shop. And so I was in there at the age of seven, learning the sharpened blades and and do whatever he needed to help out. My mom worked there too, and then also at the little elementary school I went to. Just a great childhood, you know, riding bikes until the street lights came on, all that you know, drinking out of the
water hose. And uh, I always had a love of music, and my parents weren't really musical, but they always they kind of saw that in me and encouraged it. And uh, you know, my mom fought to make me take piano lessons for a long time and that didn't really stick. Uh, but I got an inquired in junior high and then had a buddy who what a youth group like weekend trip with my church. Brought his guitar and all the girls loved him, and I thought, man, if I learned guitar,
the girls loved me too. Turned out that wasn't why I loved him. But I fell in love with the guitar. You know, I already knew a couple of chords on it, and I kind of pieced together some songs that I really liked and like watching him play, and that was it.
I was hooked from then on. And a few years later, this guy moved from Texas to Florida to become the intern for our youth group and his name was Bart And a few years later, when I graduated high school, I started playing in our Wednesday night worship band kind of before every church had a worship band. Our youth minister was kind of ahead of the curve on that Bart was singing in it, and we started daydreaming about writing songs together. And that was I graduated in ninety three.
We actually officially started the band in ninety four. Were August twenty eighth of nineteen ninety four, we pulled into Oklahoma City to join up with Jim Bryson, our original keyboard player, and a couple other guys who were no longer in the band. And yeah, we just kind of threw caution to the wind and went for it.
It's worked out pretty well.
I think now every year I keep thinking, well, maybe this is it, and it just keeps happening, So who knows. All right, it's been a lot of.
Fun separate fact from fiction.
A lot of people have seen the movie So Mercy Me, Where's that come from?
The name funny enough when we were still in Florida, but we were really just kind of starting to realistically want to start a band. We were trying to come up with a band name, and there were some really
really choice ones in there. And Bart is literally one of the funniest people I know, and he's a complete smart now like, well, you know, his father had died anyone, and his grandmother, who you know he lived with, she had moved in while his dad was getting sicker to help out, and uh, she would call to check in on Bart and see.
How he's doing it.
He's moved all the way to Florida from Texas and she call in, you know, every couple of days. And seemed like every time she would call his house because this is this predate cell phones, Uh, he would always answer and she's like, Bart, what how are came? We are always home when I call. And he said, well, you know, just being a smart like my mom, I'm just taking a lot of time off to come up with a good band name. And she said, well, mercy me, Bart,
why don't you get a real job. And we're like, okay, let's let's go with that. And to this day we've still yet to have to get real jobs. So some weird, weird prophetic moment.
And some might say, and you've still yet to come up with a name for the band.
Yeah, you know, if.
Anybody has any better suggestions, we're open. We can start a side band.
And we're having a good visit with Mike Schuitzer, a guitarist with the band, longtime buddy of Bart Millard. As somebody that has virtually no musical skill. I think the Psalms covered it for me when it talks about making a joyful noise. So that's sort of my world that I live in. I am fascinated by how you kind of put together your list for a concert date. For example, I know from being around music a little bit that you're gonna play the stuff from a new album, any
album that's recent, you're gonna be playing that stuff. But your band, Mike is a hit machine. I mean in the secular world that would be like the underscored statement. You guys just put out one great anointed song after another. So when you're compiling your list for a show like the one coming up in October in Tallahassee, how do you guys sit down and decide what's going to make up that particular concert night.
Gosh, we try to. We try to, and on our albums we kind of approach it the same way too. We kind of wanted to be a roller coaster ride, like ups and downs and emotional moments and fun moments, and in a concert we try to do something for everybody, including ourselves. Like there are gonna be songs in there that we're playing because we just want to play them and hopefully the audience will come along with us for the ride. But we always try to, you know, give
the people what they want. Actually got to see Paul McCartney a couple of times, and that was something I really picked up from him, Like he played a couple of songs that were obviously once he wanted to play, but most of the show he's playing Beatles songs. He walks out with that you know, that Hofner bass that he's famous for playing, and he literally just walks across the stage holding it up for the audience to to.
You know, it was spectacle and it was like he knows exactly what the audience wants and he's gonna give it to him.
You know.
It's like and us, it's like these fans have supported us, you know, literally for thirty years now, and you know, why would we not thank them by playing what we think they really want to hear. So, yeah, we try to do a little bit of something for everybody and and you know, make it entertainment, but also you know, be able to share our hearts and encourage people because we know that life is not easy.
No, it's not.
And and I will get to social media here eventually, because I'm I'm a follower of you on social media and have been for a little bit. Uh No, that's a very good thing, brother, No, it absolutely is. But but on that same line of picking and choosing songs, and I'm not going to ask you to give away anything, because I know there's an art to picking the flow
of what what you're describing. But for example, you know, maybe the song of songs for you guys is the name of the movie, right, I can only imagine, but I will I will tell you I'm a big fan of the up tempo version that you guys re released in you know, kind of the together with the movie, the movie version, if you will. And so, yeah, what what determines whether you might play that version or the original version?
We scots? Do you want the spoiler or no?
I don't know, I don't.
I've got to let you be surprised.
That's that's fair. But I guess my question is do you do you have to sometimes almost flip a coin in deciding whether you're gonna go this route or this route.
Gosh, that's a great question. So obviously we did the original version for decades, and when the movie came out, it was awesome for us to get to to rethink the song and redream it and and the upbeat movie version of it, I guess is what we can call it. It was almost like a completely different take on the song. You know, before Bart had written it out of losing his dad and just kind of imagining what his dad
was experiencing, you know, in heaven. The whole song is just a bunch of questions like what will it be like?
Yep.
The movie version is almost more like a celebration of like man, like we have so much to look forward to, you know, for people to trust in Jesus, Like that's our hope, that's our future. It's like death doesn't seem so scary. And so it was kind of like this really joyful twist on it to us, and so we started playing it live all it'll be a fun season. There may be some kind of hybrid version out there that could happen. I don't know where. It's maybe a little bit of the old, a little bit.
Of the new.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Does Mike come across as just one of the nicest human beings ever? I mean, chatting with me while he's on a family drive to Florida stopping at a BUCkies.
Awesome.
All right, back with more of the best of the year. It's the Twelve Days of Preston. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. It's the first hour of the first show, not live show, but still first show of the year. And here we are on New Year's Day. Happy New Year, everybody. Welcome to the first hour, second half hour of the first hour. And so let's dive into some content. This is October, just a couple months ago. Here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
This is.
Fox News over the Weekend, Trey Goudy's show, and he's got Kevin O'Leary, one of the sharks from Shark Tank on. Kevin's been very outspoken. You know, when you have the kind of money Kevin does, you just don't care. You're not worried about offending people. You're not worried about being politically correct or being trendy with the woke crowd.
You just don't care. So they're talking about.
China and economics as it relates to the chicoms. This is fascinating.
The Democrats love to say the experts are critical of Trump's plans. I consider you to be an expert. So what are we getting if Harris wins? And let me also ask you about tariffs.
There are no experts. The only expert is the market. That's the expert.
It decides.
It puts capital to work in every sector every day on a risk adjusted basis. The market is the market, and that's what's driven the economy for such a long time successfully. Tarris, I'm not in love with with the exception of China. I live dealing with China. They do not play with a level playing field. I'm give you an example, something very simple. Everybody knows TikTok. Congress, on a bipartisan basis, said look, it's a spyware, and we want to shut it down January nineteenth, and it's an
Act of Congress. It's the demand of the people of America. They made that decision. The Chinese came here, the supreme leader who controls it, and he used our court system to sue us to litigate that from happening. Suing the American people.
Do you think I.
Can do that in China? Not a chance in hell. I can do that in China. So I'm okay if he wants to use our legal system against us, but I have to be able to do the same thing. I want access to their courts. I want access to their IP. They have to pay the same price to list their companies that I do, and they don't because they don't have the same compliance costs, and we should kick them off the exchanges. I want to go to
def Con nineteen against China. I don't like tariffs and against anybody else, but I want to bring them to their knees with a blowtorch to deal with us fairly.
And that's why.
You use tariffs.
You squeeze them.
Because the Chinese only understand the stick. I've said at countless times, they understand the stick.
They respect the stick.
Give them the stick and believe me. After enough pain, because their economy has got some fractures in it, they will say, okay, just kidding, we'll play on a level playing field. I want heavy, heavy, heavy tariffs on China more than we have, even more because I live with it. They steal our IP.
I can't say enough negative stuff.
I'm sorry.
I'm just telling the truth.
Trump was being successful in dealing with China. And here's the thing. People are all upset He's friendly with the little dictator in North Korea, who cares he's using economic sanctions to gain compliance. China does not have the capacity to consume what it produces. It's a communist wasteland. Granted unbelievable resources, beautiful country, but it's communist. They can't allow its citizenry to have enough capitalist wealth to consume the
stuff it produces. That will upset the communist apple cart. So China has to have America has to.
See.
What China doesn't even understand about its own ambitions is if it took over the country America tomorrow, who's going to buy all their stuff? They can't consume eighty percent roughly of what they produ We, on the other hand, can consume eighty percent of what we produce.
This just sin.
That's why people break into this country. As we joked about last week, they're not trying to break into Russia, they're not trying to break into India, they're not trying to break into China. For Pete's sake, not trying to break into Venezuela. They're trying to break into America. All right, this is one of those little stories that I don't fully understand full disclosure, I just don't.
But I get enough.
Of this story to be able to say to you, I'm sharing it for a reason. I'm sharing it because while we play checkers under Joe Biden, China's playing chess. You've heard that analogy over the years. Oh, we're playing checkers while they're playing chess. Yes, exactly right. China's building bases, China's expanding its reach, China's developing its navy. China has
the corner of the world market of lithium. China has the corner of everything as it relates to the battery technology that we seem hell bent on driving ourselves towards, literally, which makes us more and more dependent on China. Now, a very ignored story. Here's the headline. UK hands sovereignty of Chagos Islands to China aligned Mauritius Chagos Islands. Now the US is going to retain control of Diego Garcia
Air Base in the Indian Ocean. But here's the deal, and I'm just sharing the story from epic times, UK's agreed to a deal to hand over the sovereignty of the islands in the Indian Ocean to Mauritius. They say the status of Diego Garcia Airbase is unchanged.
Just hold on.
That airbase was crucial during the Iraq War in two thousand and three. It's one of more than sixty islands in the archipelago. We've had a presence there since nineteen sixty six, British Foreign Secretary David Lammy said on October third. Quote Today's agreement secures this vital military base for the future, will strengthen our role.
Blah blah blah.
But not everybody agrees. The former British Foreign Secretary James Cleverly wrote, week week week labor lied to get into office. Said they'd be whiter than white, and they wouldn't put up taxes. They said they'd stand up to the EU, they'd be patriotic.
All lies you see it.
It turns out that Mauritius, in the minds of most is a puppet state of China. How do you know its relationship? Last month was made even closer when the Bank of Mauritius and the People's Bank of China signed a bilateral currency swap agreement. The two countries signed a free trade agreement, which came into force in twenty twenty one. The Prime Minister of Mauritius has been a leader of the militant socialist movement since two thousand and three. Mauritius
is holding elections in November. By the way, it's a beautiful place, absolutely dropped dead, unbelievably gorgeous. One of our sons spent time in Mauritius and it's just it's incredible. But this particular socialist movement holds forty two of the seventy seats in the parliament. Mauritius is a strategic place. And don't think for one second Diego Garcia is secure. This is a strategically important place and the UK basically just sold it out from under us. That doesn't happen
with strong leadership in the White House. We're just getting started here. It's the tenth of the twelve Days of Preston, so it's the month of October. We're recapping from the year twenty twenty four. Happy New Year's everybody, stay with us. We've got so much more to come here on the Morning Show with Pres thin scott.
Man.
We're jumping around a little bit, but we're covering the month of October here on the twelve Days of Preston. This is show number ten, and as we start this segment, I decided let's give you a listen into the big stories in the press box on the very first day of the month of October from town Hall, Matt Vespa. You knew it was coming. The liberal reaction to Hurricane Helen, you knew. And you know we've got nearly one hundred people left dead, maybe a few more, maybe a few
less likely going to climb. You know a lot of people across the country are going to try to find ways to help. Lefties don't. As an example, remember Hurricane Harvey hitting Texas, Houston in particular in twenty seventeen, there were some high profile of liberals refused to donate because Texas is a Republican state. They wouldn't give. I have long believed that Hurricane Michael hitting the Panama City area, which is largely a Republican conservative part of the state
of Florida, you didn't see any concerts. You didn't see the left rushing to raise money. There was a poll done by a buddy of mine, Ron Sachs, pointing out that there were parts of Florida didn't even know that there was a hurricane and it was perhaps one of the most intent powerful storms to ever hit Florida. Really, Hurricane What Michael you mean, George, Michael, you mean Michael Jordan.
No.
So there's this instructor at the University of Kentucky Arts and Sciences, Betsy Packard, and she posts online paraphrasing, maybe God's punishing Maga the areas that are being hit by this storm. I guess she didn't catch the memo on what Ashville is Asheville is San Francisco of the East. It's a very illiberal community. We've talked about it, We've talked about the problems and policy and governance there.
But I don't care. I don't care. I want to help them, Happy to help them. But you knew it was coming.
Both Trump and Harris are being called out for not having a policy dealing with the deficit and the debt. Both of them told you it got a zero in on this stuff. You've got former intelligence officials endorsing Harris, basically the same ones that said the Hunter Biden laptop story was fake. Remember that note signed by fifty one former intelligence officials. This is Russian disinformation and it was factually wrong. And so now they're endorsing Kamala Harris one
of them, kind of a spokesman for the group. National Security Leaders for America President Rear Admiral Michael Smith, US Navy, retired One well reasoned but ultimately incorrect assessment does not undermine a lifetime's worth of public service.
Well it might, sort of, sir.
Their assertion that former President Trump is uncommitted to democracy and unprepared to be commander in chief is well founded.
Blah blah blah.
Well, in response to that, Flag Officers for America two hundred plus strong retired members of the Armed services, two hundred generals admirals endorsing Donald Trump. Who are you gonna believe the people that lied about the Hunter Biden story to try to help Joe Biden get elected, to try to make sure that story was squelched and suppressed Intelligence officials or men and women who serve this country admirably, and say no, no, no, no, we have one choice here.
You decide, I'll take the latter group. For those of you that just heard the national news better than expected. Right, all right, so we've got some flooding, we have some storm surge, there was some wind damage. There were clearly are bunch of tornadoes anywhere from thirty seven to one hundred and twenty five popped up through Florida yesterday and overnight.
Got this.
Post on X doctor Roy Spencer on Facebook. Hurricane Milton wind speeds at landfall another case of exaggerated estimates. I went through all of the highest sustained wind speeds the National Hurricanes Center listed for several hours around landfall time. The average was sixty seven miles per hour. The average of the National Hurricane Center was one hundred and fourteen.
That's a forty seven mile per hour difference. The best position station was just off shore of Venice Beach, measuring seventy eight at landfall, which was forty eight forty two miles per hour lower than the National Hurricane Center estimate of one hundred and twenty. That's good news, right, I mean, that's really good news. There are reasons that we should be concerned with the reporting by the National Hurricane Center in advance of these storms. It's troubling. Could you say
they're airing on the side of caution. Perhaps are they measuring wins at higher altitudes than what are practical for the arrival of the storm. Perhaps I'm not a meteorologist. Now I have sent detailed questions to meteorologists, two forecasters, and I've not gotten responses that satisfy me. And by that, I'm saying they're not really answering the questions, which tells me they have the same questions, but they're just not professionally going to put themselves out there and say that
they have the same questions. They're not supporting the estimates, but they're not.
They're not.
They don't come up with any explanations. So it is a problem. My contention friends, is that you know, we have storms, We're gonna have storms. But once again, the massive category five just it might not have been even a category three if you if you look at the Saffir Simpson scale, those win speeds, that's category one barely. If they're below seventy four, that's tropical storm. So we're now seeing a bit of a pattern here with the
National Hurricane Center. Man, I hate this. I hate being the guy that the day after the morning of the storm blowing through I'm here pointing out that Okay, I'm grateful, I really am. It wasn't worse, but there are people dead because of tornadoes. And that was the thing that I told you I was most worried about. You know, storm surge is just gonna happen. It's not what they expected. Good,
all right, We're good. And again, if we go benefit of the doubt, then we say, okay, we're gonna scare people to get them out of the way just in.
Case, all right, whatever.
I would rather just be honest with everybody and say, look, the wind speeds are this. We can't guarantee that they'll stay that low. We can't guarantee what the storm surge is going to be. We're suggesting this, be honest with everybody. Just be honest, because the credibility issue is going to come back and bite them in the butt and it's going to kill people down the road.
It just will.
Yeah, hurricane season, it was a thing. We were spared a lot in our area, but it was still a big story and that's going to continue. It's a theme for a few minutes here on the Twelve Days of Preston on the Morning Show with Preston Scott, Don't you dare leave us? Our number two is next back with the second hour of the Twelve Days of Christmas, day number ten. The month of October, and the hurricane was
not limited to just Florida. Hurricane Helene found its way into the Carolinas, and we talked with former morning show producer David Allen, who lives in the Ashville area.
Let's go back.
Let's do a little chronology here before we get to the status of things right now. First, give everybody just kind of a general view of where you are in the region.
Close to ground zero. It's Fairview, North Carolina. Excuse me, technically where I am, just outside of Ashville, just outside of Black Mountain, Swannanoah, which you know was we are considered one of the harder hit areas.
That's what I.
Keep being told. That's what I've seen, although out of property, my wife Jennifer and I, oh, we're very blessed and didn't receive any damage. So that's where we are.
Let's go back to when what we knew is Hurricane Helene. The track had it and the National Weather Service consistently had the track going straight over Tallahassee, it did not show the deviation that would be really impactful, because that deviation to the east is what brought the track of that storm to North Carolina. David, when did did you when did people in the area know that you had a severe weather event coming? Was it prior at all, or was it when it happened.
I don't think I'm the right person to ask that question because I was having lived in Tallahassee, consider that a home away from home, and love you and your family and all the people there that I got to know so well. I was more concerned about you guys, and I was paying attention to your weather, not mine my fault.
Well, but again, the forecast didn't ever deviate. We showed, we talked about it heading east, we talked about it deviating, but all of the National Weather Service broadcasts all of the forecasts, and let's be honest, a lot of that, you know, is used by the local meteorologists in any area to kind of foundationally form their forecast. That none of them had it coming your way to the extent that it did. So I just I'm not sure how much notice you would have ever gotten.
I wasn't really privy to that information. The last thing I looked at. I thought it was coming straight over you guys, and then straight for us.
You did think it was coming towards North Carolina then, because they originally had it going straight to Atlanta and not. Yeah, you'd have gotten rain, but you wouldn't have gotten the lion's share of it, which is what you ended up with.
See, I haven't. I still haven't been able to see any information because I have no internet and very limited cell service. If it weren't for the fact that I'm in Asheville today and I drove out of my little holler just to get a signal so I could talk to you, I wouldn't have the ability to do that. So I haven't seen any of the post hurricane information at all.
At what point, David, did you know you had something other than a little bit of rain coming your way?
That would have been at five am Friday morning. I think that was the twenty fifth. I don't know what date it is anymore. It was the twenty seventh, It was a twenty okay, anyway, it was a twenty seventh.
I drive out.
I have taken a job that requires me to get up early in the morning again. Figure and I'm driving out at like five am, and I have to drive through a river that didn't used to be there. Oh no, And I got through it and decided, yeah, it's time to go home. This is something you don't need to be out in now. Fast forward later the next day or three, when we finally got out, the path that I was trying to take was completely obliterated. Trees down, power lines down, totally cut off.
When you encountered that, did you know it was going to keep raining?
Was there?
There was just something inside that said, yeah, I don't need to go any further.
I knew it was going to be bad. There was no there was no indication it was going to stop raining, but that much rain, it just kept coming and kept coming and kept coming. We lost power. I want to say, six fifteen, six twenty that morning.
What was going on around you?
You get back to your home, your property, What are you hearing, what are you seeing?
Are you in touch with people?
Kind of talk me through those hours and maybe the twenty four to forty eight hours immediately after that event, right.
Well, maybe it was the fact that I've been through too many hurricanes myself, so I went back to bed.
Why wouldn't you honestly.
Yeah, I mean you've been through a hurricane whatever. It's right in a little bit, and.
You know when I woke up and the.
Will I will say this.
I will say this, during the night before all of this happened, before I got up to go to work, my wife and I were relatively awake throughout the night in spurts because we would hear a transformer blow. Then you would hear a tree fall, and you're wondering, is it ours? Are we now trapped? You know, we'll have to wait for light to assess the situation. And it just so happens that it was all up above us.
When you saw the storm has subsided, but not the flooding, right in that kind of how it works in the mountains, You've got the storm, it goes through, but you're just at the beginning of the flooding.
Right.
Well, it's an odd situation because I've never it's rained a lot here, but never this much. And water began to pull up and our front step and it was rising like I've never seen this before. But it's going to eventually come into the house if I don't divert it, which I successfully did. But then soon after that it stopped raining. I went downstairs to get my generator out and stepped into a foot of water.
Oh wow, the.
Basement, which is basically just for us, a root seller. We have an old farmhouse that we live in, and stepped into a foot of water, and all I'm like, well, let's see if I can jerk this thing out of here and get her working and got it.
How long is being is the estimate for any sense of normalcy?
Oh, we're months away from normalcy. Tomorrow will be the fourteenth day. I'm without power and water and what has happened here with our water system? Now I'm on a well, so when I get power back, I'm.
Good to go.
Hopefully.
I don't think there was any damage. But the watershed as they call it here, is responsible for eighty percent of the water in Buncom County and surrounding counties. And the facility itself is good to go. It's running and it's fine. The pipe, the waterway that was buried twenty five feet in the ground was washed away.
Good gone night.
Yes, it is all gone. They have to they have to basically build the pipe and the road and everything else back to be able to get people water.
Don't leave us back with more of the Twelve Days of Preston the month of October twenty twenty four, here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. I am Preston Scott. Great to be with you, Hose and I are taking some time away just a few more days. We will be back on Monday with our first live show of the new year. But until then, Happy New Year. Thank you very much for joining us as we recap the year
twenty twenty four. Now this is the tenth of the Twelve Days of Preston, which means it's the month of October, the tenth month of the year. So let's pick up on the topic of the hurricanes that hit and let's zero back in on Florida and in particular the congressional district of one cat Camick.
Good morning, We are tired, but we are we're getting ready to get back out on the road today.
Yeah, tell us what you've seen in your district. The impact of this storm across your entire district has been pretty phenomenal.
Yeah, it's pretty devastating for sure. This is the third storm in thirteen months and pretty much that same path where it comes in at the you know, Taylor County Dixie County line and representing Dixie's east. We tend to take the dirty side of the storm, which is the tougher side of the storm, with higher winds and bigger storm surge. So in places like Scene Hatchie, they saw an eighteen foot storm surge. In Horseshoe Beach, we saw fifteen feet of storm surge, in ceedar Key, eleven feet
of storm surge. And even inland Jasper Live Oak, you know that area, Mayo. It's pretty devastating. We're talking over one hundred tivots that have just been mangled in the storm, Trees down on homes, chicken houses have collapsed, dairy barnes that have collapsed. It is truly catastrophic. And we've been out every single day since the storm passed, and everywhere I go there are people who don't have power, don't have water. It's truly devastating, overwhelming, I would say, And
you know, we're used to be storms in Florida. I look to the north, our friends in Georgia and the Carolina's in Tennessee and they got rocked very very hard as well. So I'd say the Southeast is in for a long road.
What is the estimates that you're beginning to get kat on recovery And let's start with power.
So I know that this is gonna sound a little silly, but I would put our utilities in our line men and women up against really anyone in the nation. Our folks, Duke, FP and L all of them. They were pre stage with utul aid in place, but the storm was so significant that a lot of the substations were damaged, right So that tremendous work just to try to get power back on. And there are still a lot of people
who don't have power back on right now. I think we're in the ballpark of twenty to thirty thousand in the district that don't have power right now. So we're anticipating by tomorrow and Thursday we should have pretty much everybody reconnected. Then it is a matter of getting the utilities, the water back on. Places like cedar Key, their list station and waste water went down immediately, and so that there has to be extensive repairs on those systems. So
that's going to be a big thing. We've been working with the state on the housing for people who lost their homes or who suffer tremendous damage, and letting people know that those RVs are coming and we should be seeing those deployed here by the end of the week. In terms of damage, the estimate, we are still a ways out for really understanding the depth of how much
this is going to cost. I can tell you from the ag standpoint, we're anticipating about double what Idelia was, so we'll be probably pushing a billion plus just in agricultural damage, from infrastructure like fences and packing houses, to loss of livestock, to of course crops that are total laws. It's going to be tough, and we've been on the phone. I spoke with the FEMA administrator myself as well as this under Secretary of USDA, and we're working to get
some waivers. There is some assistance out there right now for people in certain counties that FEMA are eligible for FEMA assistants, but we're still working to get other counties added that have kind of been forgotten, and that's really a challenge working with the administration. But so far we're seeing an incredible all hands on deck effort from nonprofit organizations, localities,
mutual aid from other counties around the state. There are strike teams coming in from Washington, and of course the state has done a great job.
Let's set aside the repairs that are needed. Is the water supply based on the storm, storm surge and the flooding going to be safe for a while.
I know a lot of people are under especially you know, from the water intrusion, the salt water. If you're on a well and you're you're on the coast, you're definitely going to have salt in your well water. And then there's a lot of folks that are under a boil notice advisory. So that's that's just something to be mindful of, and that's why we always say please sign up for your local advisories. You know, I'm in a Lotua county and I'm signed up for THEIRS as well as a
bunch of counties in my district. And they're very good at putting out information that's real time rather than waiting for the state or anyone else to put that information out. And so if you're under a boil advisory, you're gonna hear that and you're going to want to know that of course, and of course we've seen from so many different directions these types of resources. So people are getting
palettes and pallets of water delivered. And then comfort stations have been set up in all of these areas that have taken pretty substantial damage. So laundry, showers, they're set up in these communities all the way from Taylor County, you know that, Wacula le Fay at Dixie Levy, Madison, Hamilton. They're comfort stations established in every single one of these towns.
So people who don't have water, you can still do laundry, you can still take showers, and for drinking water, all of that is on the ground and ready to be provided.
Kat that brings me to an unsavory, but it is the biggest story going short of these recovery efforts, and that is this this stripe now along the East Coast and the Gulf Coast with the ports, it will impact recovery efforts, and it will do so in a dramatic way. First, just your thoughts as a sitting member of Congress, And it appears as though the President is unwilling to force them back to work, and I think he ought to.
Yeah, you know, this has been something that just in the last you know, twenty four hours, because I pulled my head up from disaster recovery, I realize last week that this was something going on. Typically, it always comes down to the eleventh hour and then one side cave and everything goes fine. Now that we're officially in a strike, you're one thousand percent right. We're going to be seeing massive impacts to the supply chain across the East Coast
and the West coast ports. And also something that no one's talking about is the impact that that's going to have on our on our agriculture indus because forty six percent of our ad products in the country are exported out of East Coast ports, and that is going to be an incredible hit to our local economies and communities.
So it's not just the price of everything is going to skyrocket and you're going to see a shortage in the stores, which by the way, this is my PSA, Go buy toilet paper and paper, towel and whatever you need now, because who knows how long this is going to go on. But this is exceptionally frustrating. Americans across the country and every city, every community are hurting. We are feeling the real inflationary effects of the Joe Biden
Kamala Harris regime. And if you look at if you talk to folks, they say things are just too expensive. We don't have enough money to make ends meet. When you look at what these these workers are making, they're on average making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, plus forty thousand dollars in healthcare fits and retirement benefits. In many cases, these doc workers are making more than ninety percent of Americans. And I'm not saying that they
don't do a good job. I'm just saying that when you compare it to what some other folks in the country are making, it's tough. It's a tough pull to swallow for sympathy. And you know, I approach this from the standpoint of the wife of a first responder. I watched my husband for years and years and years go into burning buildings and not making miror what these dock
workers are making. And their union has just come to an impact because the city doesn't want to agree to a cost of living adjustment despite the fact that we're under historic inflation. So my sympathy is running very, very thin. For folks like that, especially in the face of a disaster like we just face here in Florida and of course in Georgia, Carolina's and Tennessee.
And for the lay people out there.
When Congressmoman Camick refers to CRS, she's talking about continuous ridiculousness.
Congresswoman is always you're the best.
Thanks for coming on, appreciate you guys, Thanks so much.
Us Congresswoman Cat Camick always thrilled to have Cat on the program Florida's third congressional district. And yes, we will have her more frequently in the new year. Very excited about that. I told her the last time we visited that she's a very very important voice because she just doesn't play the games inside the Beltway. It costs her positions and leadership, as she's explained to us, but her constituents lover. She's been reelected and we are thrilled to
have her back more frequently in twenty twenty five. Happy New Year, everybody more to come of the Twelve Days of Preston just sounds like you have to take a big sigh right there and then boom. Now I don't get tired of Christmas music.
Sorry.
Besides, it's in the theme the Twelve Days of Preston. Here we are halfway through day number ten, which is the month of October, the year twenty twenty four. Good to have you with us. Happy new year, everybody. Hope you are looking forward to a terrific new year. I'm very excited about January twentieth, but we'll get to that in due time when we come back to the live shows on Monday. All right, let's get back to October.
And some of the things we were talking about here on the show came across this thanks to the lead research assistant of the program. It's from glam dot com. I never would have been on the website glam dot com, trust me. And it's a psychologist offering five phrases to help keep the peace with almost anyone. And so I thought it'd be fun to run these phrases by you and and you you feel free to let me know via email if you like, or just you know, you can you can yell out loud You've got to be
kidding me, or or maybe no, it's brilliant. I understand this is something you care really, you really care about. That's that's statement number one when there's when there's disagreement brewing. I understand this is something you really care about. And I think that as I go through these, your tone of voice is really important. See you could say it like that, I understand this is something that you really care about, or you can kind of change it up.
I understand this is something you really care about. You See how a little inflection, See how it just kind of loosens it up a little bit. See here's the second one. How can we get on the same page. See, as we go through this, you're gonna find all of them are, for the most part, pretty patronizing, almost condescending, And I certainly have the ability to say them that way. I understand this is something that you really care about.
That little it's sort of like, okay, okay, now I get it, this matters to you.
How about this?
How can we get on the same page? How can you and I get on the same page? The way to maybe say that that might not be quite as productive because to me, to me, that is an immediate I'm gonna cave on all my values. How can we get on the same page? Means Okay, what do I have to say? What values? Do I need to give in on in order for us this ridiculous argument to end.
That's what that says to me. So even though this article is entitled five phrases to help keep the peace with almost anyone, I'm not sure that that's really what's gonna happen here. But if that's your goal, we're gonna help you out and throw three more lifelines your way. The doctor being quoted here doctor Catherine Noble. And again this is a piece from glam dot com. So the ideal end goal of a disagreement is to come up with a resolution rather than walk away unhappy.
I agree.
I agree with that, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the mic drop here in just a couple of minutes, because there's a mic drop that settles all this for the most part. So we've gone through two phrases. I
think what you're saying makes a lot of sense. Now there's a little meat to that bone, a little if the other party is saying something that makes sense, if they're saying something that you just you can't even remotely get your brain around to say, that is again it's patronizing, and I don't know that that's productive because then it just turns around and you walk away with angst. Although you could you could make the argument that, well, let
me back up. If they're saying something to you that you have not considered, then absolutely, you know I'd not thought of that. What you're saying makes some sense from your perspective. Number four, I think we're saying a lot of the same things.
No, that's what Tim Wall said during at the end of his debate. You know, there's a lot of commonality here. That's what you say when you don't have an idea.
And then, lastly, I don't like where this conversation is going. Can we come up with a solution instead? There's some there's some there's something useful there. We're not solving anything, but that's suggesting that you have an identifiable problem. Oftentimes disagreements there really isn't one. It's all about someone holds this opinion and someone holds that opinion.
Now let me give you the mic drop. It doesn't matter what either of you think. All that matters is what God thinks. See this is.
And if you were wondering, how how are we drilling down to something that anchors here, here's how it anchors this is what's been lost in our country. Two things come together here, number one and most importantly, a lack of a common faith. It's an oft referred to quote by John Adams. The Constitution was written for a moral and religious people. For all others, it is wholly inadequate. That's a pretty rough paraphrase, but a pretty good one.
So it makes sense we have people saying the Constitution's old. It's stated that that's because they don't share a faith. They do not have a set of moral values and a set of convictions that they hold to the Constitution works for those people, it makes sense. So we have more conflict because we have less commonality in faith because when people of faith disagree, God settles it, what's God's
word to say? And oftentimes everybody walks away from that feeling a little humbled, both sides of an argument.
Second language, we don't have a common language.
We have catered to people in this country that do not speak English, but everybody should be taught and should learn English.
Two reasons.
Number one, commonality, that's what makes America great a common language as well. Secondly, it actually hinders someone's move up the ladder. See this is again This is the subtle bigotry of the Democrats and the liberals. They don't want people that come into this country to be made to learn English because they think that's demeaning. No, it's how they achieve success. It is the language of success, more opportunities. Because you speak the common language of the country. You
want to come into this country only speak Spanish. I can probably tell you you're limited in your options.
Do you see what I'm saying.
That's the bigotry of the left. They keep you chained to their plantation. You only speak your language, not the nation's language. You only can achieve a little bit of success, So you need us to fill in the gaps.
That's how it works.
And that's the subtle reason why I did this segment to illustrate these five things whatever twelve days of Preston. Oh the things we talk about on the show. But that's why we love what we do. We get to talk about all these things. We have more to come. The month of October. It's day ten of the twelve days here on the Morning Show with Preston. Scott back
with the final segment of the second hour. Here of the twelve days of Preston day number ten, the month of October, and of course it was campaign season.
Now, for those of.
You that may be new to the program or might not really know the policy that I have. As the show has evolved, it's grown larger. We're in other markets. We're a local show. We talk about local issues. But when it comes to campaign candidates that are local office only, I generally only do podcast interviews with them.
The exception is.
For large statewide office or congressional offices, or a state office that is a large district, for example this one. Is this the first time we've been actually, I mean since you've been elected. Is this the first time we've talked in studio? In studio, We did a radio, we did a phone or phone interviews. Yeah, but this is the first time in studio.
Yeah.
Do you like my place? I do like your place. It's been a while.
Yeah, I have, And I don't know if you'll admit it, but I admit it. I have mentioned to listeners that
were friends. We've known each other for a very long time, a long long time, and I remember the days of trying to nudge you into running for office, thinking very highly of you, and so I say that in fairness up front, because although I'm fair to anyone who comes in here, I want people to understand that we talk at a little bit of a different level than a standard media person and candidate or in this case, incumbent. So with that said and out of the way, why'd you decide to run for reelection?
Oh?
Man? Because there's work to be done. I think over the last two years we have done an amazing job of really tackling some big issues that I ran on, workforce education being one of those, education in general, educational school choice, and that was a huge one for me. It was personal for me. And so those are things that that we got done and I saw the you know, for me, I need to see the ship turn right. I can't just be on a ship that's not that's just floating out there. I need to be able to
see results, and we're seeing those results. And so because of that, that's why I want to keep going, because there's a lot left to do. When you ride around this When I ride around this district, and.
And it's a huge district too, it is a.
Big district, thirteen counties. I've got the largest district in the state. But when I ride around this district. The need is so great, and I know I have an opportunity and a seat at the table to make sure that I can tackle those needs.
I got out of the.
Thirteen counties, twelve are fiscally constrained, and so you take counties like Liberty County that has an avalorm of three million dollars, you can't build, you can't grow with three million dollars. You're living off grants. And so for me, it's it's making sure that these folks aren't forgotten. And
that's why I show up. I was on a conversation before walking in here with my folks over in Swanee County and looking at getting a regional shelter built over there, because I had eocs across this district after the storm hit that had to desert their eocs to go to other places. Your emergency Operations centers are supposed to be your base hubs in the times of disaster, and they couldn't be in those places because they just weren't built to.
Stand the storms. Yeah.
Yeah, So there's a lot of work that needs to be done. We've got rural health care all across the district that is struggling making sure that people can see their doctors. And there's just a lot of issues that still need to be tackled. And two years went by way too fast, and you're trying to get as much done as you possibly can, but we've still got big issues that we have to tackle.
I might have inadvertently for guys to say it's Corey Simon is here with me. Corey is representing the third State Senate district here in Florida. You mentioned the breadth of this district, the diversity of the district, the size.
Of the district.
We're going to run a minute long here, Hose, because I want to give you a chance to just explain. You are pro life. I am, but you voted against the six week ban, and I remember you and I talking about that and I said, give me your thoughts, and you did. I'd like you to share them with our listeners.
Well, just my personal story and why I'm pro life is my wife and I. We have one son, he's twenty one years old. That wasn't the initial plan. I really wanted a big family, and we got pregnant several times, but we miscarried several times. Unfortunately, God has a plan
and I understand that, but it was tough. It was tough to you know, my son is an absolute blessing, but we've lost a lot of kids over of the last twenty years, and so I have an affinity and affection for young kids and for babies, and I wanted those kids. But that's why I am pro life. But I understand my district and it doesn't always come down to what my personal feelings are. When I ran for office at the time, fifteen weeks is where the law was, and that's what was being pushed in a lot of
different places. And I said, you know what, fifteen weeks was somewhere about right. And when the six week band came up, I had already given my word to this district. And whether it's you know, Democrat, Republican, NPA, I give my word, and when I give my word, my word means something.
What's on the to do list. Let's just assume the constituents put you back in office for another term. What is top of the list for you, not necessarily for the Senate.
Well, for me, it's a couple of things. You know. Access to healthcare is one of the big ones for me. To find that so when you look around this district and we have the pleasure here in Tallahassee of having great hospitals here, we have access. And what I've done over the last two years is trying to bring additional dollars to some of our f q A c's in the area like Neighborhood Medical and Bond Community Health cler Clinic and UH and do those things here and trying
to sew up what we're doing here in Tallahassee. The partnership that UH Tallahassee or t M H and and f S you have is going to be absolutely phenomenal for the entire region. And so I look, I want to sit at the table making sure we're having a seat at that table, because when I look at areas like Liberty County, Franklin County, Golf County, UH, all the way over into Swanee County, La Fayette, Madison, Jefferson, what color, all of these places don't have that kind of access.
And so when we start talking about diabetes and SIKA cell and issues that are plaguing many of our communities, we have to make sure that there's access to care in these areas.
And when you say access to care, you're literally talking at this point almost brick and mortar and places to go to get the care.
Absolutely. I mean when you you know, a lot of our folks, even in the places that we have hospitals now trying to bring attention to them, like over Doctors Memorial over in Taylor County. Folks are driving from Taylor County to Tallahassee and driving right by Doctors Memorial many times because they just don't know the services that are
being provided. So making sure that folks are informed to the medical choices that they have in their communities, and then expanding those opportunities, whether it be through mobile units and getting in there and making sure that we're doing our prostate cancer checks. I've had three friends over the last two and a half months that have all been
diagnosed with prostate cancer. Uh, it's concerning for me. So we're using our emergency rooms and we have some eds in the area, but we need actually primary care in a lot of these places so we can get out in front of some of the disease that is affecting our communities. And so, you know, those that will be a big focus for me as always, you know, and these are these are things that I personally I'm going
to work on. You know, we're still trying to get our arms around our insurance industry on all levels, on all levels, on all levels, which is why I'm a no on Amendment three, because it's gonna run up insurance rates.
It's a lot of other things exactly.
Uh.
And so we've got to wrap our arms around that. And I think we've done some work to try and to go in the right direction, but there's still work to be done.
Uh.
And then workforce education. We've got young people that are you know, and I think the Chamber of Commerce is coming out on Monday with a list of jobs that are that the job market is looking for, and two thirds of them don't need a college education. And so we've got to make sure that families understand the options
that are out there. Sure, as you know, Preston, my son's a welder and he didn't want to go into our traditional post secondary institutions, and so making sure that the kids have a full understanding of the job force and what the needs are.
Now.
You should know, I did offer an invitation to Daryl Jones to come on, but he smartly declined, all right, that's it. For our two back with our three of the Twelve Days of Preston. Well, it's heard on these stations, w FLA, f s U men's basketball, so I thought, why not start the third hour of the Twelve Days of Preston in the month of October with a look at FSU men's basketball with war chand dot COM's Irish Chafell.
I think the respect you have, you and I both have, and probably most people have for Leonard Hamilton probably colored the way you described the last couple of years because they've been really bad. I mean, this team was not competitive at times over the last couple of seasons, and so that's been tough to watch. Because Leonard Hamilton has now been here over twenty years. He took a program that was really in the dumps and took it to, you know, the highest levels.
Really.
I mean, they won the ACC a couple of times. They've you know, the regular season and the conference tournament they went to the elite age should have been the final four probably and then the team that the COVID year, you know, might have been one of the favorites to win at all. Yep, but you know, the tournament got shut down, so we all have tremendous respect for Lender Hamilton, but these last couple of years have been rough, and
this year is going to be a total crapshoot. I mean, we have no idea what this team is going to be. They kept four players but really basically two or three players that played last year on the roster. You've got nine new players. You know, you've got some talented kids. And you did get Jamir Watkins back, which was huge. I mean, he was their whole offense really last year, and he entered the draft and then pulled his name out, was still in the portal, pulled his name out of that.
He came back for Florida State for his final season, and he's a big time college scorer. You know, could be a first team All acc guy. But behind that, it's a lot of new faces. There's some really talented guys. But now you just got to see how it all comes together, because this is not normally how Leonard Hamilton. You know, we know Leonard Hamilton usually builds guys up over two or three or four years and that's how
that program evolves. This is going to be strange where he's got to really kind of hit it in one year with a bunch of new faces.
He has he has built the program with guys that are inside, but he's also built it with one or two one and donners or two years and done kind of guys, some real elite players that end up going to the NBA right away and oh, by the way, generally flourishing. Are there any players that look like that in this group of newbies?
I mean, I think the one that you know, definitely people are gonna have their eye on, I think is Malik Ewan, who's a junior college was was some people thought it was the best junior college player in the country.
He started his career at Old Miss. Was a really highly highly touted big man and uh, you know, he's a guy in terms of like physical raw ability, you know, six eleven, two hundred and thirty pounds, uh, but skilled and uh you know, if he turns out, you know, it's a little bit of a gamble on him because you know, his time at All Miss didn't go great, so some people were not as interested in him coming out of junior college before the state was and they beat out a bunch of teams for him and they
got him. He's a guy you know, you just don't have that raw physical ability very often, and I think so if they hit it with him, I think that would be huge. And then they've got some other you know, they've got a couple of transfers, Jerry Ding from from Hampton, you know, a few other transfers, and then a guy on the team from last year that I really hope
has a big years Taylor bull Bowen. You know, I thought he as a freshman last year, you could tell he didn't know where he didn't always know where he was supposed to be. But plays with tremendous length and energy, h and A and a really just likable the way he plays the game to me, the way uh Leonard Hamblin's teams play the game. And then we kind of forget about Chandler Jackson at point guard, who was starting games two years ago. Last year at a hand injury,
never really kind of got back in the mix. He's a guy that I think has you know, could be a good solid acc point guard. And then it's just trying to figure out you have some freshmen, some other transfers, see who steps up.
It would occur to me to just kind of think if they've got a point guard, that would be refreshing, because I think that's been the biggest thing lacking in all of FSU basketball for all of the years of coach Hamilton. They've never really had many good point guards.
No, I think that's accurate. And you know, Nate Johnson maybe early on, was a pretty good point guard, and Trent Forrest he became it was a score Yeah, he became one, and he was more of a probably scoring point guard. But no, you're right, they have not got had a facilitator. They have not put a value on that.
He's you know, he's always wanted to have six four, sixty five guys, sixty six guys, and he has passed on a lot of five eleven point guards and you know, maybe to his detriment, but when his system has worked, it's worked well. Yes, But but you're right, if you if you got if you need somebody, if you've got players who need to be set up in the scoring position,
you need a good point guard. They have not had that, and so, uh, you know, we'll see if Chandler and they also have a freshman point guard, de Kwon Davis, and they brought in that maybe could help in that way as all, he was really highly touted, probably their highest touted freshman out of Maryland, was a big time recruit, and you know, maybe he's a guy that can help in that area too.
Time for some optimum health naturally meaning yeah, drilling down to things and finding natural ways to address them instead of just going pharmaceutical all the time.
Like there's a time and a place.
But we are over medicated here and joining us as always is doctor David Harts.
All right, doctor Hearts. So there are a.
Bunch of people out there going what happened had my belly.
Get so big? Well?
Yeah, you know, and we're always kind of consumed with the flat belly. You know, we want the flat belly, and you know, sometimes it's you know, it's fat. You know, there's no doubt about it. Sometimes we just got too much weight on us.
But sometimes, I mean, doctor Harts, I haven't seen my knees.
I don't know what my toes look like. And I know I got the but or I can't cut my toenails. But anyway, yeah, sometimes it's you know, there's other things going on here. So what I want to talk about this morning is sometimes it's certainly it can be fat, and a lot of most times it is, but also
can be bloating in your stomach. Sometimes you get a protruded to ab them in and it's it's not fat, it's just it's bloating and some of the things that can cause that, and of course it can be also very uncomfortable and it can affect other things in your body.
Is there a way to tell the difference.
Well, yeah, a lot of times you can tell that there's just plain adipose tissue. You can get appost tissue inside your your mesan kind with your body, which can protrude out. But you know, if there's not a lot of adulous type of fat and it's really really firm, and also you might notice it comes up and down, you might realize that sometimes it's worse than others. And if fat changes or if it's accompanied by a lot of flagless gas or abnormal digestion, that's that's usually really
good signs. And some of the things that can cause this is something as simple as just not chewing your food as well. It just it doesn't sound like very exciting, but it really happens a lot, especially in our society when we eat so fast we're eating just you know,
cramming things down and going fast. Sometimes that helps CLRK acid deficiencies where you just don't have enough acid in your stomach, and that can be replaced by just getting some betine hydrochloride or hydrochloric acid pills at a health food store and trying those. Lactose intolerance people, a lot of people don't realize that they got problems with lactose
and and they need to stay away from dairy. And also sometimes even lactose free things can cause it because it has caseine in it, which can also cause problems in the lactose free stuff doesn't take that out. Different food allergies can do some of this too. To you you can you might want to just periodically cycle out different foods out of your diet, especially like luke, and just see if that doesn't help some of this. A lot of this happens with transient times in your bow too.
You're supposed to be eliminating stuff that you eat within twenty four to forty eight hours. I mean, I've had people in patience to have kept it weeks and as much as a month and their bodies and not and not LeMond so I mean it needs to be transit time. That's usually you know, pretty quickly within a couple of days.
Oh the things we talk about on this radio program, huh see, trying to help little Optimum Health naturally, talk to FSU basketball, We talk about the new We talk about every all if it's out there, we talk about it more to come here on the Twelve Days of Pressed and on the Morning Show with Preston Scott, all the political season. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. It's the tenth month, which means October, which means we were getting killed with emails and texts and stuff at
our mailbox. It didn't stop, and there is some crazy. Cringey was a keyword here in this segment of the Morning Show. But we begin with something that started to go crazy in my email box. My text messages. Everybody talking about the quote cringiest political ad ever. And the first time I saw it, I knew this was not a legitimate political ad.
Now, I will warn you this is edited. There are bleeps, but you definitely know what they're saying.
I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man man, and I'm man enough.
I'm man enough to enjoy a barrel proof bourbon meat, man enough to cook my steak rare.
Man enough to deadlift five hundred and then braid it out of my daughter's hair.
Do you think I'm afraid to rebuild a carburetor? How you carburetor for breakfast? I'm afraid of bears.
That's what beer hugs are for.
I'll tell you another thing. I sure I'm not afraid of women.
I'm not afraid of women.
I'm not afraid of women.
They want to control their bodies, I say go for it.
They want to use IVY, have to start a family. I'm not afraid of families.
They want to be child ass cat ladies.
Have all the cats you want.
Woman wants to be president, well, I hope she has the guts to look me right in the eye and accept my full throated endorsement, because I'm man enough to support women, man enough to know what kind of doing.
That time like, man enough to admit I'm lost even when I refuse to ask for directions.
Man enough to not ban young women from reading Little One.
Or one of those pants books that the sisters like. I'm man enough to raw Dog of Flight. It sucked not worth it. I'm man enough to be emotional in front of my wife, in front of my kids, in front of my horse. I'm man enough to tell you that I cry.
I love actually.
Goodwill, Hunting, West Side Story and Brettant, and I'm sick of so called men domineering, belittling, and controlling women just so they can feel more powerful. That's not how my mama raised me. I love women. I love women who support their families.
Women who decide not to have families.
Women who take charge, and I'm man enough to help them win.
Yeah, there's a Harris Walls sign at the end of it, but also it's important to note it says on the title man enough Harris Wall's ad, it's not a Harris Wall's ad. At the very end it says that this is not endorsed or from any candidate or any committee.
See, you have to disclose that stuff.
If this were Kamala Harris Tim Wall's ad, it would have to be Kamala Harris saying I approve of this message. If it was from a political action committee, they would have to disclose the source of the ad and who's sponsoring it, who's fun They would have to disclose that this isn't an ad, but it wants to be. And that's the joke of it all. The guy behind is guy I did my research. It's a guy named Jacob Reid.
Jacob Reid is one of those illiberal lefties from California that writes for Jimmy Kimmel, and he thought it would be funny to put this out there, but not as a satire. He actually thinks Tim Walls Doug Amhoff are great examples of men.
Now.
I don't know if you've seen Tim Walls try to lown a shotgun that happened over the weekend. O MG to that. He says it's his shotgun that he's had for years. He doesn't know how to load it, and he's on video trying to load it and he doesn't know how. He's just fumbling around. I was like, someone's gonna get shot, someone in the hunting party. It ain't a pheasant that's gonna get shot.
It's brutal. But this I think it's a parody. I think it's satire. It's not.
They actually are serious with this stuff. He's actually thinking, this is how real men define themselves. So I've got the little bit of the backstory. I've got the whole thing on my blog page. You can see it because seeing it makes it better, because, as I've described in my commentary, the only thing that you learn from this ad is how not to sit on the back of a pickup truck. And Jose when I told him that, he was like, I didn't know there was a correct way to sit on the back of a pickup truck.
All right, So now you've seen the video and you can say definitively there is an incorrect way to sit on a pickup truck.
Yes, there is incorrect ways.
In my thirty seven years of living, I never knew there was incorrect way until to until.
And that's the beautiful achievement that Jacob Reid has made. He has managed to put a bunch of guys actors won a bisexual Nigerian on a video and none of them, none of them look like a dude. They're trying to be I mean, they're men, but they don't. They don't act like man. There's nothing about them that's manly at all. And that's the beauty of it. And so he doesn't realize it, but he's just made the joke on himself, quoting from Jacob Reid.
Before we move on, the creator of the Man Enough video.
Our friends, family, and neighbors are complex men. They can change a tire and enjoy a rom com, chug a beard, and run to the store to get tampons for their wives and daughters. The strongest men are the most secure in their masculinity. The rise of role models like Tim Walls and Doug m Hoff on the national stage.
Listen, I think the left.
Is finally fighting its footing on how to talk about masculinity. I think we're overdue for a redefinition to what it means to be a man in America. Oh God help us, now we move on. Gateway Pundit described it this way. Not a fair fight. Jd Vance sitting down with a New York Times reporter Lulu Garcia Navarro, and I don't know that she's really a reporter.
Backstory.
At the debate, Walls and the moderators attempted towards the end to get advanced to answer whether Trump lost the twenty twenty election. This is a classic we're gonna see what you really think kind of question. Listen to this smug New York Times reporter and check out what happens. And again, this is JD. Vance who is proving what we thought about him. He is more than up to the challenge for ask to clarify.
If you believe Trump lost the twenty twenty election. Do you believe he lost the twenty twenty election?
I think that Donald Trump and I have both raised a number of issues with the twenty twenty election, but we're focused on the future. I think there's an obsession here with focusing on twenty twenty. I'm much more worried about what happened after twenty twenty, which is a wide open border, groceries that are unaffordable.
And look Senator yes or no? Did Donald Trump lose the twenty twenty elections?
Well, let me ask you a question. Is it okay that big technology companies censored the Hunter Biden laptop story, which independent analysis have said cost Donald Trump millions of votes?
Senator Vance, I'm going to ask you again, did Donald Trump lose the twenty twenty election?
Did big technology companies since or a story that independent studies have suggested it would have cost Trump millions of votes?
Senator Vanses, I'm going to ask you again, did Donald Trump lose the twenty ard.
I've answered your question with another question. You answer my question, and I'll answer yours.
I have asked this question repeatedly. It is something that is very important for the American people to know.
No, it isn't.
There is no proof, legal or otherwise that Donald Trump did not lose the twenty twenty election.
You're repeating a slogan rather than engaging with what I'm saying, which is that when our own technology firms engage in industrial scale censorship, by the way, backed up by the federal government in a way that independent studies suggest affect the votes. I'm worried about Americans who feel like there were problems in twenty twenty. I'm not worried about this slogan that people throw. Well, every court case went this way.
I'm talking about something very discreet, a problem of censorship in this country that I do think affected things in twenty twenty, and more importantly, that led to Kamala Harris's government, which has screwed this country up in a big way.
Senator, would you have certified the election in twenty twenty, Yes or no.
I've said that I would have voted against certification because of the concern that I just raised. I think that when you have technology company the answers now, when you have technology companies censoring Americans at a mass scale in a way that, again independent studies have suggested effect the vote, I think that it's right to protest against that, to criticize that, and that's a totally reasonable thing.
So the answer is no. And the last question, will you support the election results this time and commit to a peaceful transfer of power?
Well, may I just pause for just a second and point out she just said a transfer.
Are you worried about losing the election? Ma'am?
First of all, of course, we commit to a peaceful transfer of power. We are going to have a peaceful transfer of power. I of course believe that peaceful transfer of power is going to make Donald Trump the next president of the United States. But if there are problems, of course, in the same way that Democrats protested in two thousand and four and Donald Trump raised issues in twenty twelve, We're going to make sure that this election counts,
that every legal ballot has counted. We've filed almost one hundred lawsuits at the RNC to try to ensure that every legal ballot has counted. I think you would maybe criticize that. We see that as an important effort to ensure election integrity. But certainly we're going to respect the results in twenty twenty four, and I feel very confident they're going to mac Donald Trump the next president.
How smug was she? How brilliant was he?
And I shall take a break for thee I'm such an idiot, all right, but Donald Trump was not in choosing JD. Van's brilliant choice. All right, back with more of the Twelve Days of Preston. Great stuff still to count, final half hour of the Twelve Days of Preston, day number ten, the month of October, as we tackle the year twenty twenty four in chronological order, Now it's campaign season.
We've certainly highlighted that in this particular program. How could you avoid it in the month of October with the general election in November, and boy, that ought to be
a fun show tomorrow. But you know, there were a couple of amendments on Florida's ballot, and we certainly talked about both of them because there were two of the several that were pivotal, and this is one of them, the marijuana amendment was defeated, thankfully, but it was in doubt, and joining us was the Secretary of Corrections for the State of Florida, Ricky Dixon, to talk about it.
Good morning, pressman, How are you doing.
I'm doing well.
I confess to being a little frustrated watching the campaign for Amendment three. Well, I think there is some good pushback happening, which oftentimes doesn't take place. I still believe that the disinformation and I do believe some of it is disinformation, and the misinformation is problematic. From your chair, what do you see when you see this campaign unfold?
Well, first of all, I appreciate you having me on and giving me the chance to kind of set the recordstrate here because I'm frustrated as well. I'm not surprised when I hear misinformation by various media outlets, especially when there's motivation to pass something such as Amendment three. But it does get frustrating when the misinformation is so prevalent and doesn't even seem to be accidental in some cases,
but absolutely disingenuous. So I appreciate the opportunity to just provide some clarity, and I'll be as clear as I can be. There's a myth out there that our prison is full of inmates for simply smoking marijuana. So if you want to talk about inmates in our prison system
for smoking marijuana, there's nothing to talk about. If you want to talk about inmates in our system because of smoking marijuana, and because of the impacts that's starting with marijuana, of committing crimes under the influence, committing crimes to continue their drug habits, or the drug use that was predicated upon the use of marijuana and led to higher level drugs,
there's a great deal to talk about. So, as you know, Preston, we've got a very comprehensive of that and research arm here in the department, and we had them do some
homework and just to see what the facts are. And what we found was there actually only thirty seven individuals today we've got eighty seven, five hundred and fifty two individuals in our custody, and we found that there are only thirty seven that are in our custody right now for the primary or secondary or tertiary offenses of marijuana possession.
Now that's over twenty grams. And what's interesting about that is those thirty seven are not in our system strictly for that charge, but their sentences were enhanced by either an extensive criminal record or severe accompanying crimes like grand theft, battery, child of the abuse, possession of other illicted substances, and so on and so on. The President, that's the facts as it relates to those in our prison system for marijuana use.
So you mean there's not even one person that is in our prison system solely because they possessed a little bit of marijuana.
Not even one person. Yeah, And I guess I guess from a personal a little bit of a personal experience that I'll share with you. What really frustrates me is I know the impact. I'm not a political figure, I'm not involved in scientific studies, but I've been doing this for almost three decades now, and I have literally talked to thousands of inmates in my career, both those with low level a few years on their sentence, up to life and in fact up to including conversations moments before
someone's death as a result of the death penalty. And there's a common theme that I hear, and it is the regret of the association with their drug use, often most often starting with marijuana that led to their subsequent life in prison or prison sentence. It's just such a common theme among those that I've talked to again for almost three decades.
Now, Secretary, I have I've been sort of on the other side of that, in the sense that I've talked to men and women that we're going through drug rehabilitation programs going back to the mid nineteen eighties, and I heard from every single one of them that for them, the gateway was marijuana. I understand that alcohol is a gateway to bigger things as well, but marijuana absolutely positively is a gateway drug HU And the numbers inside your prison system verify that, don't.
They, Well, they do it. Let me add to that the co occurring impact of marijuana use and mental health cases in our system. And I'm not crazy about it that we are, in fact that the facto mental health organizations of our day across the country, we have a lot of mental health cases in our system. In fact, fifty eight percent of those in our custody right now need some sort of substance use treatment. Over twenty four
percent are identified with mental health needs. So the association of drug use and the mental health needs that we have to meet in our system is difficult, and it's it is so frustrating because it almost reverses all the hard work we've been doing. You know right now, many people may not know this, but we've got a twenty one percent recidivism rate. That's one of the best recidivism rates in the country. And that means that folks that get out of our prison only twenty one percent come
back to prison within three years. That's something to.
Be very very proud of.
We work very hard to under the Governor of Santanus leadership, to get down to that level, and that's the cause of the treatment and programs and all of the things we do to better the success of those getting out of our system and to reduce victimization once they're out and back on the street. And it just feels like a reversal of all that hard work. And I know it, and the people that work in this profession knows it as well.
Mister Secretary, got a caller that feels like you and I are being disingenuous perhaps for not distinguishing the difference between prisons and jails, suggesting that perhaps there are people sitting in jail for singular possession use You want to address that, because I'd be happy.
To sure sure there is a distinction between prison and jail. And as you know, the sentence of a year and a day and results and you go into prison. I don't know jel statistics that well. I concentrate more on the prison statistics. But what I do know from conversations with numerous shrifes across our state is it's kind of similar.
Even though there may be some initial arrests or citations for marijuana use, it usually results in an appearance before judge and a pretty immediate release unless they're accompanying crimes. So right the same within the jails, it doesn't normally end up in and of itself. Possession of marijuana or smoking marijuana doesn't usually result in extensive jail sentences.
Well, and the state is also pointing out on a totally different level here or a different part of the problem that right now one in four fatalities involves somebody smoking weed. Can you even project what you might face inside the prison system. If we make this legal recreational use, it will find its way into the hands of young adults, miners, And we're now going to change the entire trajectory of their lives because of their access to it.
Yeah, I think my colleague friend doctor Eric Hall with DJJ and can speak a lot to that. We've we've talked about the impact it has on the youth, but as it relates to the to the adult prison system, I can tell you if this passes, we will start preparations for an increase in the prison population and the
cost that goes along with that. So any you know, any touting of those that are four Amendment three and any of those that we talk about the tax revenue it generates, I would argue it will be off set two to four times by the social cost the prison costs, not to mention the human you know, impacts. I think a lot of people that vote for this may have not all but may have some self serving desire when
I access it. But when you think about as I just heard Chef Grady Judge speaking the other day, so so well, it doesn't matter until it matters, And I think some people will second guests their initial opinions, initial opinions when they recognize the loss of life that occurs on our highways and just some of the impacts that passing this would have on our state.
Is there any way to quantify the number of men and women that are in the Florida State prison system that had some form of marijuana use in their background.
Anecdotally in my speaking with him over the years, it is extremely prevalent. I don't know a percentage. I can tell you there's a fifty eight percent. As I mentioned earlier, substance use treatment need right now in our system, and much of those are related to either marijuana or marijuana as a gateway drug. As you mentioned earlier.
Florida Correction Secretary Ricky Dixon, you know we dodged one here, and my hunch is it'll be back in some form. I can't believe that a majority of Floridians think it's smart to legalize recreational marijuana, but such are the times we live in. All Right, one final segment, and I've saved a great interview for the last segment next on the Twelve Days of President Welcome back the Twelve Days
of Preston. Let's finish the October show with one of my favorite interviews and one of my favorite guests.
He's author Tom Claven.
He writes on a lot of things, but one of his really big topics is the.
Wild West, and this his latest book, Bandit Heaven.
I'm guessing as you're writing some of the other incredible Old West books, Dodge City, Wild Bill, Tombstone, The Last Outlaws, they're like these sticky notes that are getting built up, and you at some point look at them and go, you know, that's another book.
How close am I?
I think, yeah, I think you're very close, because it seems like one thing led it to another. It was like a progression of non intentional necessarily, but like it's almost chronological with Wild Bill takes place a lot of it is during those Civil during an answer of the Civil War war. You have Dodge City and follow Me the Hell take place in the eighteen seventies. Tombstone is
something that like early eighteen eighties. The Last Outlaws was about the Dalton Gang where they met their ward allowin Cockinggilt, Kansas in eighteen ninety two. And then what what Band in Heaven is about it? As the subtitle says that the final chapter of the Wild West is that there were still outlaw gangs and outlaws like Patge Cassidy, Sundance,
Kid Kid Curry, some of the others. Part of the Wild bunch into the in the eighteen nineties, into the twentieth century, into the early nineteen hundreds, and so I wanted I felt like I had done these previous stories that took the readers on his journey that began maybe with the Civil War, took them to the end of
the century. Let's finish things up in a way. It doesn't mean that it's not more stories to tell about the American westly, but let's let's talk about what were the final gangs and how did the Wild West sort of come to an end? What was what?
What? What?
What put put these gangs out of existence?
And that's that's what basically.
Banded Heaven is a bet up.
You describe bandit Heaven, and I'm going to loosely describe it as as three specific spots in an area. Tell me how you came upon these spots, how you knew about them and their significance one to each other.
Well, you know, as part of my research, I found out about what was called the outlaw Trail. It actually existed from the Canadian borders to the Mexican border, where outlaws could go on this trail pretty much unbolested by lawman. They went the rough terrain and the lawman didn't want to go near them. And they had three main stops along the way. There was the Hole in the Wall and Wyoming, which is literally a hole in the wall that was hot you could lawman couldn't get in there.
There was a place called roberts Rous, which is partly in Utah Party in Colorado, and it was up on a plateau, so you could see spark as you were a banded up there or abandoned gang, you could see somebody coming from miles away, so it was very easy to protect the place. And then there was also a place called Brown's Hole, which was a hole was the name for a valley also at the time, surrounded by hills and mountains with very difficult access. So these places
were like good hideouts for bandits. They would rob a train, let's say, and head for Brown's Hole, a head for robbers roosts, and there there they would be safe until it was time to go out robbing again.
Were these locations locations that were happened upon after a crime or prior to were these planned places to go?
You know?
Both Initially they were sort of stumbled upon, not necessarily by criminals but by others who was looking for just exploring, for example, Jim Bridger, I think the Great Mountain Man that was found one of them. And but once once the work got around that these places were kind of isolated and kind of easy to protect, the criminals decided, well, you know what, we're going to build a little They actually built cabins in these places and corrals has stolen
livestock and they became, you know, gang banded Heaven. That was a collective name for these three places. They would band in Heaven because they were places that they could relax, enjoy, you know, don't worry about the law lawman, and plan their next job.
I have to note we're on the fifty fifth anniversary of the movie which Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, which was an it's an iconic film. What did they get right? That intercepts and overlaps your book.
What they got right was that Butch Cassiding and the Sundance Kid were rather charming, roguish outlaws, and they you know, if you notice in the movie, which still holds up fifty.
Five years later, yes it does.
They don't there's not much violence in it. There is some and especially of course there's a very dramatic shootout ending it to the movie. But but casting the Sundance Kid were not violent men there. They were criminals, not trying to whitewash them, but they were not prone to violence, and they got that right, and they were kind of
charming and that they had a very strong friendship. What they sort of overlooked was that except for at a place played by Cassin Ross's the movie, there wasn't really many of the other character who are part of the Wild Bunch gang they call the Wall Gangs. And that's a big part of what Band in Heaven is about. There's so many other interesting, colorful characters. Dirty Dave Rudebagh, gun Play, Maxwell, Ben Tall, Texan k Patrick, George Flatt
knows Curry. The list goes on and on. Everybody had a nickname and you know one of my favorite characters. And people are gonna say that they hear this right, But George Beak knows Parrot who And as people will find out when they band hasn't ended up as a pair of shoes. No, yes, I can tell the story.
You do what you want without giving away what you don't want to give away.
Okay, well, he was a pretty bad outlaw who finally got a caught and he was scheduled to go to trial, but he tried to break out of jail. Angry townspeople strung him up and hung them, and a couple of local doctors that got permission to examine his brain to see if there's any indication. Why is somebody a crime? Why is someone not? And while he were at it, they decided to take off some of his skin and they said it to a tannery, which made it a
little pair of shoes. And the next time, the next governor of Wyoming, he wore those pair of shoes to his inauguration ball. No, it's true. Oh that's why I probably love non fiction. It could be strange to the fiction.
Well, you know what that that that moves me right to the question. And and forgive me, Tom, you've been on the show with me maybe five or six times now, maybe more, And I asked this question, but for the sake of people that that didn't hear the previous times you've answered it. How do you find this stuff? Well, I mean, it's not like you're talking to living sources that wandered around with butch and and and sun dance.
You know, that's a good question because I sort of feel like I'm a prospector. You know. I put my my hat, my helmet on, my lamp is on right, I got my pick my little pick axe there, and I went to these these uh you know, a minor and there's all these different tributaries, and they did side roads, gut roads with caves and tunnels and stuff like that. And I just keep digging and you find this that information is there. It's a question of can you dig it out and just go from one thing to another.
And by the time I get ready to write a book, I've got all this information. Not all of that can make it into a book, but some of it is very unusual, like this Joyce Pekin Knows Parrot story. And there's other stories too. I mean, a man named gun Play Maxwell is a character in the book, and he got his name because every time he got any trouble.
He went for his gun first.
And yet he lived for a pretty long life until he's probably probably to his gun faster than he could.
You know, without getting into a commentary about the state of modern journalism, there's an axiom and ideal that you always find two or more sources. But in your line of work, how do you find that second source or do you just do the best you can with the one you got?
You know, a great second source. I mean you can read things and other books, and that doesn't mean they're necessarily true. But to go back to the contemporary sources, you know what was being reported of. You know, one of the benefits of to me in working on Band in Heaven is it takes place in the eighteen nineties and the early nineteen hundreds, and there were a lot of newspapers all across the country, all throughout the West.
Newspapers were reporting at the time on the adventures of some of these criminals, not only just Puts Cassidy, but other people I mentioned Kid Curry, Tom Horne of those. And so you can find actual reporting being done at the time. I mean, certainly when you find a story that was covering the inauguration of that Wyoming governor referred to the pair of shoes he was wearing used to
be a peak, nos Barrett. And so the closer you can get to something that had actually happened and the reporting on it, the more reliable it is.
Are there heroes in this book.
Yeah, that's a good question because in my previous books they were very easily identifiable heroes as main characters, you know, the White Europe or Bat Masterson, even Doc Holliday Lee. You mentioned McNeilly land and mcnielly. But in Bandit Heaven it's you. Your main characters are Bridge, Cassidy, Sundance Kid and other members of the Hole in the Wall gangs like Tall, the Tall Textan Kilpatrick and some of the other people Tom Horned.
So yes, there are heroes in.
The sense that if you consider you know, lawman as as your heroes, there's the Pinkerchy Detective Charlie Serringo. There are other lawmen that that Joe LaForce, who is what it was the minor character in the film version of Witch Casting the Sundance Kid.
That's it.
Our October show is in the books. Back tomorrow with the November show. Friends, Happy New Year from the Morning Show with Preston Scott