You better believe we're gonna keep playing that there Christmas music. Welcome friends to Friday, Twelve Days of Preston. It's December the twenty seventh. More on that date in mere moments. It's great to be with you here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. And since we're offering this gift to you the Twelve Days of Preston, this is the seventh day of the Twelve Days, and that means we are chronicling the month of July in the year twenty
twenty four. If you're new and you've missed it, sorry, these are special shows that we share when we're on vacation at Christmas time. We don't want to leave you for two weeks and have to go on a fast for that long. That's just that's cruel punishment. And so what we've done is we have we have forged another way of being with you, and we do it with the Twelve Days of Preston. And it's great to be with you this morning. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
As we now transition and start getting ready for the new year, and we can actually look forward to the inauguration.
But maybe we'll talk about that later. I don't want to mess things up.
I want to start with some scripture, as we always do, because it's just it's what we do. This segment's called the six seventeen sixty three segment because it goes back to a Supreme Court ruling, which is ironic because in just a few minutes, our first guest on today's show, going back to July, is a Supreme Court expert.
But I don't want to get ahead of myself.
We wanted to start each show doing what people used to be able to do if they were a teacher in a classroom in a public school in America, and that is they could start the school day with prayer, they could start with a scripture reading. But they can't do that anymore.
Now.
We didn't kick God out of school, we just ignored him. Can't kick God out of anything. And so my challenge each day on the Morning show is to give you a scripture to use to talk with your kids, and at the very least, if you don't have kids anymore at home, or you just you know, you don't have kids, to kind of jump start your day, because that's what we need. We need to we need to focus is first on what matters most. And I just I'm a big, big fan and believer in praying at the start of
the day. Nothing wrong with praying later in the day at the end of the day. But I just find this to be really useful because it helps set the mood in the tone and maybe as important as anything else, the perspective for the day. And so our verse comes from Psalm twenty nine, verse eleven, and it simply says the Lord will bless his people with peace. Jesus said it real directly in John fourteen twenty seven. Jesus said these words peace I leave with you, My peace I
give to you. Getting anchored to the peace that God offers is pretty remarkable, and it's where you really can get in d to peace. I remember on election night, I didn't stay up, I went to sleep. I had peace. I had God's peace. No matter who won or lost, whatever happened, Jesus was still going to be on the throne When I woke up the next morning, God willing.
I woke up.
And he was willing, so I did. But how do you find peace with God? Well, I think you accept that he offers it, and then I think you decide to stop fighting. I think you surrender, you stop fighting, you surrender, and I think you serve. Peace with God is not some abstract ideal concocted by theologians. It's something that many of you, if not most of you, can say that you've experienced. You've experienced a piece that just doesn't make sense. That's called a peace that passes understanding.
I think many of you can say that you've experienced a calm and a peace when you just shouldn't have had it. That's what Jesus offers us every single day.
That's the beauty of it all. So that's where we start. Peace good stuff.
Twenty seventh of December. Huh, you're nineteen hundred prohibitionist Carrie Nation, seriously, that's the name begins her campaign of destroying saloons when she smashes a bar at the Carrie Hotel in Wichita, Kansas. Nineteen twenty seven. Showboat, a play that revolutionized musical theater, opens at the Zigfield Theater in New York City. Five years later, Radio City Music Hall opens in New York City. In nineteen forty one, the newly open North Platte canteen
serves war bound troops. In nineteen forty seven, the children's TV program Howdy Duty premieres, and in nineteen sixty eight, Apollo eight, the first spaceflight to reach the Moon's orbit, returns to Earth. Makes me giggle that there are people that think we didn't do that. Anyway, we did. Today is a look back at the year twenty twenty four, specifically the month of July. So here's what's going to happen. We're going to teach your interviews, including our next guest,
which I'll introduce in a second. US congress Woman Kat Cammick, who recently won reelection, Brandon Feugel. What, Yeah, we'll tell you about that. We've got Admiral Bob Harward his book The Gouge. We've got a visit with Michael Alford, the athletic director of Florida State University.
We've got a.
Lot of great guests that we will kind of reset and again we're just carrying you through the year of twenty twenty four, one month at a time, So stick around three hours great interviews, great content, best of and a ticking off of the year twenty twenty four in review.
Here on the Morning Show with Scott, and yes, I'm gonna keep playing Christmas music because I don't stop celebrating Christmas ever, And I want to keep with the theme of the Twelve Days of Preston, which is of course a direct and blatant ripoff of the Twelve Days of Christmas. So get yourself something to eat or drink, settle in, relax and enjoy the month of July on the Twelve Days of Preston on the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. If you're just joining us, and maybe you've missed the first six days, that's all right. We are doing a best of a year in review. You kind of throw it all together, mash it up, and what comes out is the gift from us to you. Because we're on vacation of the twelve Days of Preston, the best of the Morning Show with Preston's got to look back at the year in review.
And since this is the seventh day of the twelve Days, it's the month of July, the seventh month, and so we begin with Zach Smith. He is a legal scholar and expert from the Heritage Foundation. He's one of a few that we call on from the Heritage Foundation to talk about the weighty matters of the United States Supreme Court, and we had much to discuss in the early part of July.
Let's start with this.
If I were to ask you, what are the most consequential rulings that the Supreme Court made from the spring session, understanding that the ruling started rolling out of you know, several weeks ago, not just in June. What's on your list of the things that are the most important and impactful.
Yeah, well, I think one that's blown a little bit under the radar given all of the other high profile cases is involving kind of an arcane legal doctrine known as Chevron deference. Now, the Court recently overruled this difference in two cases called the Loper Bright and Relentless cases that involved what sound like a boring issue involving fisheries whether they had to pay for monitors on their boat to monitor their catches.
Right.
But this, this Loper Bright case is so important because essentially what the Court did is they said that instead of unelected, unaccountable deciding what the law says, what their own power should be, that the courts now are going to decide that without giving deference to what those bureaucrats think, and given the vast scope of the administrative state, the way it impacts all of our lives on the day
to day basis in ways we don't even realize. This is a major win for the rule of law, and we'll have a significant impact on our lives going forward.
I've seen some people offer a little analysis that this court has limited the scope of government. And while I can see that in some rulings, I look at the rulings on social media and I scratch my head and I wonder if they really have.
Well, it'll be interesting to see, you know, today we expect two more big First Amendment social media cases. The net Choice cases went out of Texas, went out of Florida as well, where essentially the Court will answer the question whether states can treat these big tech companies like common carriers, require them to care content or at least provide reasons for why they choose to deplatform certain individuals. And so we'll see a further development on that front
later today. At NAM Eastern, were.
You surprised the court did not find the federal government was crossing the line when it comes to impacting what social media was in fact censoring.
Yeah, so that is the Murphy versus Missouri case. As your listeners may recall, that's the case where the Biden administration essentially coerced big tech companies social media companies to sensor speech that the Biden administration disagreed with, and the Court unfortunately didn't reach the merits of that case. They didn't decide the actual legal question whether the Biden administration had crossed the line and inappropriately forced these social media
companies to sensor speech they disagreed with. The Court in set essentially said that the people, the states, and the individuals challenging these policies weren't the right parties to do so legally, they didn't have something known as standing, and so we'll have to wait and see whether someone else will bring a similar challenge, whether the Court will find
someone else has standing. But what's interesting about that is that some think, some like Justice Clarence Thomas, He's written about this before in the past, some are worried that the Court will use this standing doctrine to kick cases they simply don't want to reach on the merits and can avoid reaching. Some very difficult yet very important questions that they do need to reach and that they do need to resolve.
I want to circle back to this idea of standing. I've been struggling with this because and this sounds really stupid, and that's why you're on here to help say you're an idiot and correct me. But I like in this whole standing notion to let's say I pull a firearm and pointed at somebody, it's almost as saying I have to pull the trigger and hurt somebody before they have standing.
I really am struggling with this notion that we're seeing used more and more that we don't have standing because we don't have a victim yet, and the victim's not in front of the court. Why is that? Why can't we just determine whether the law is constitutional or not.
Well, look, standing is rooted in the separation of powers. It's a constitutional requirement because Article three of the Constitution says that federal courts can only hear cases and controversies, and so as that's been interpreted, it means that there has to be an injured party. The problem I think you're alluding to, Preston, is the fact that starting really in the nineteen sixties and the nineteen seventies, the court
deluded what it meant to have an injury. And the concern, again by Justice Thomas and others, is that it seems like the Court has been more willing to bend that standing doctrine reach cases on the merits when they involve cases favored by the left leading components of our society, typically environmental type cases. And yet they stringe apply those standing requirements when the cases seem to be favored by those on the right or conservative causes are being brought
before the Court. And so I think what needs to happen is that the Court needs to reevaluate, readdress its standing doctrine and make sure that it's applying it equally across the board instead of essentially trying to gain the system to get rid of cases that they just don't want to hear on the merriage.
So how does that happen?
I mean, do they they can't just sit down and talk about it over dinner?
Right?
Do they have to have a course a case that challenges the very issue of standing.
Yeah, they may have to do that, And I think Justice Thomas again has explicitly called for the Court to do that, and again, there are some very bad case law in the sixties and seventies on the standing front. The Court would likely need to reevaluate and probably overturn as a result of that. But I think the fact that we're having this conversation at all right now, Preston, is a good sign that people are recognizing this is a problem and that it may be time for the Court to reevaluate it.
I'm also curious your take on let's use Joe Biden's decision to thumb his nose at the ruling by the Supreme Court on student loans and that he did not have the authority to do that. I mean, Nancy Pelosi said it on the front end, But yet he goes around and continues to try to find ways. Is that ruling so narrow that it doesn't just say, look, Joe, you cannot do this, so stop it.
Well, you know, he recently tried to do the same thing again, just using a slightly different statutory provision. Lower federal courts did enjoin that say you have to stop that, it's unconstitutional. Unfortunately, it looks like that case may be making its way back to the Supreme Court again as the Biden administration continues to defend its policy. But look, if one of these student loan following cases makes his way back to the Supreme Court, it seems like it'd
be very difficult for the Biden administration to prevail. But I think again, you hit the nail on the head and are highlighting a more fundamental problem in that the Biden administration in the student loan area, in other areas as well, essentially has said we're going to take these actions we know are illegal, We're going to do it for political purposes, and then cast up our hands in frustration when the courts strike it down, even though we
know they have an obligation to do so. And so I think that's important for everyone to keep in mind that the Biden administration is taking actions they know they don't have the power to do.
In less than a minute, what was the ruling that surprised you the most this term, Well.
There was a very interesting rule involving the funding of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. And what was interesting about that decision is you had two very conservative, two very originalist, constitutionally solid justices Justice Thomas and Justice Samuel Alito on opposite sides. Of that decision, and so I just think it goes to show and push back against the narrative from many on the left that all of the conservative justices think alike, they're always going to reach the same
result because of that case and the others. This term show that's just.
Not the case, Zach.
We've talked about a lot of consequential rulings. There was another ruling, Fisher, that you wanted to touch on before we get to some other things.
Yeah, that's right, Fisher versus the United States. This was a case involving January sixth defendant. Is challenging one of the statutes that has been used to prosecute many of the January sixth defendants. It also is involved in some of the charges against President Donald Trump as well. And essentially, what mister Fisher said is that the Justice Department interpreted this statute too broadly. It was originally passed in the
wake of the inrun scandal. It was essentially designed to prohibit someone from intimidating or coercing others, or helping others to hide evidence or shred documents and that type of thing. And yet this is the statute that the Justice Department charged many of the January sixth defendants with violating and so what mister Fisher said, he said that was a wrong interpretation of that statute, and the Supreme Court ultimately
agreed with him. And so as a result, the convictions of many January sixth defendants under this statute will likely be revisited. And again it's likely that several of the charges against President Donald Trump will also have to be dismissed as a result.
Legal expert constitutional expert observer of the United States Supreme Court Zach Smith from the Heritage Foundation, on The Morning Show with Preston Scott. All Right, we have so much more to come. We're just getting started. It's the twelve Days of Preston, the month of July. Stay with us, Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. This is the seventh day of our twelve days, which means it's the month of July in the year twenty twenty four.
And here's my visit with one of my favorite guests, US Congresswoman Kat Camick of Florida's third congressional district.
Oh well, good.
Morning, Julia. I feel like you made a lucky charm reference. So I almost try to you know, do the accent and everything, you know, top of the morning. But we're doing good.
Well now wait wait wait, wait wait, because you almost sounded like you were from Fargo, North Dakota there.
I know, terrible with accents. The family is from Minnesota. So if you get me going all no way, we'll say, you know, oh don't you know you?
Oh my gosh, yeah, do you drink pop too?
Have you ever been to Hibbing? Have you been to Hibbing Minnesota? There? Congress women?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that they have up there.
Oh my gosh, yeah, Landa Goshen. We're like cousins, you and me.
Oh no, yeah, I grew up.
I grew up in the suburbs of the Twin Cities there, don't you.
Know, oh go Byke school.
Oh no, we can't do that now, I draw the line there.
Hey, what was what was your reaction when the Supreme Court ruled that former presidents have a lot of immunity.
I thought it was great. I mean, it was what we expected. I mean, it feels like the last week has been the gift that keeps on giving. Truly, We've had a series of tremendous rulings coming out of out of Scotis and of course the debate that showed the world whatevery single one of us already knew, but just confirmed it for the world, and you know, really showed that the democrats of the liberal media have been gaslighting
us for the last three years. But when talking about presidential immunity, it's exactly the case that Donald Trump has been making, and that as president you have to have immunity in the decisions that you make. Now, the court they were very clear that in your official capacity you cannot help be held liable. Now, I think that we are going to see Biden, well, not necessarily Biden himself, but people around Biden try to test the limits of that.
So of course, you know, vigilance is always key. But I think it's going to make the case that Jack Smith and others have been pushing false pieces, and it really just puts the choice of who is going to be the next president back in the hands of voters rather than these weaponized, hyper politicized ags and DA's. That is a win for the American people.
Axios came out, and of course Axios is well left of center when it comes to what it writes and reports. It talked about the Biden oligarchy. Here's my immediate thought, though, Kat, was that's just that's a flare, that's smoke distraction. Barack Obama's running this country. I believe that from the moment he set office in back in Washington, when he left office as president.
What are your thoughts on that?
You know, I think it's again. I would have Democrat colleagues come back from meetings at the White House and we would be on the House floor voting, and they would say, you know, I've worked with this guy for years. He couldn't remember my name. Anyone who has had someone in their family or a loved one suffer from dementia or Alzheimer's recognizes the shuffle, the glassy eyed look, the up and down, and the voice. And so we've all
been seeing it. We've been knowing it. And I truly believe that if Joe Biden had, you know, been in a better place, many of the people that have been hired wouldn't have been hired. He in his right mind, would have never agreed to some of the stuff. But you see these crazy, hypersexualized lgbt QYA m AP people being embedded at the highest levels in the communication shop, in the policy shop at the White House, and you have to ask yourself, who the hell is approving these people,
who's hiring these people? Because it's definitely not Joe Biden. The world now knows that. I think that it is a conglomerate of staff along with you know, the Obamas. I think Susan Rice is still playing a role, particularly as it relates to homeland security. I think that there's really no one person calling the shops. I think it's kind of a free for all over there.
Kat I mentioned before the hour that my system of how I prepare for the show is there's a handful of gas that get their own paper clip, and and you you have a jumbo paper clip because I get stories, and I immediately write in my notes, kat and I set it to the side, and I said it, so, I've got this stack of stories because I want your insight and thoughts on these stories. I think they're really really important stories. And I vow and I value your opinion,
and so and so headline number one. Immigration judges have thrown out two hundred thousand deportation cases because Biden the administration didn't file paperwork.
Yes, I think that that is actually a distraction from the really big story, which is that the Biden administration is going after the dhs IG who uncovered more than four hundred thousand cases in that same boat. So I think that that is a watered down version of the really big story that's brewing. And if people think that the border situation and the illegal immigration that we've seen today is bad, wait until you see what's coming.
I have made this statement over the last couple of weeks that the only conclusion I can reach is that the Biden administration and the Democrat Party at large, not all, but most have concluded that losing young girls like Joscelyn Nungary and the other victims of illegals in this country, raping, murdering, drunk driving crimes galore, they've accepted that as collateral damage to get people in this country illegally and then registered to vote.
Am I far off in your opinion?
No?
No, I think that this was a calculated risk on their part. There was a strategy at play during the one hundred and seventeen Congress where you saw Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats put forward HR one, which was for the People Act. I call it for the Politicians Act, and it stripped citizenship requirements from being able to vote, and it did everything from getting rid of photo ID, no
signature verification. And you have to ask yourself when that's paired up against the backdrop of an open border, Well, am I crazy for thinking that this is a way for them to forever have control and elections? Because you've heard me say it before, Preston, I believe that the Democrat agenda has always been dependency and control. It's not
one issue over another. It's always been about what can we do to grow the size of government, to make people dependent on government programs so that they ultimately vote in favor of big government programs that then they the swamp creatures control. They can do that by winning elections. They win elections when they can add people to the roles.
And I think this is just one of those calculated strategic moves that they made, was, Hey, an open border, we can bring in a couple million people and that should be enough to pad the books.
Let's assume that the House and the Senate go to the party and we get Donald Trump back in office as president. Is there enough backbone to demand that the president lower the debt of this nation.
We're having those conversations right now. Okay, you know you've heard me say it before. One of the things that I'm actually proposing to the Trump campaign because we're coming to the table on day one with a full agenda, and one of the things that I have said is this can't be just a Donald Trump thing. This has to be a locked and loaded, stays in place, part of mandatory on autopilot mechanism. And for me, I think the debt being one of the net the biggest threats
to our national security. If we don't lock in a structured debt repayment plan that can only be way under a congressional declaration of war, I think that that is going to mean that we're not really serious about it. So we're having those conversations right now. Everyone is very positive about it, but you and I both know that when it comes time to drop that voting card and put your name on the record, that everyone turns into
a bunch of chicken craps. And I hope you're proud that I clean that up.
US Congresswoman Kat Camick, who, oh, by the way, was recently re elected third district of Florida's Congressional Caucus and our guest each and every month, well most each and every month here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. It's the Twelve Days of Preston. We are recapping the year twenty twenty four with sort of the best interviews segments of the year. More to come, don't you leave us.
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For the final segment of the first hour of day seven of the Twelve Days of Preston, I thought i'd end where we kind of have been a political heavyweight. We go from the House of Representatives and congress Woman Cat Camick to a member of the United States Senate. For reasons I cannot explain, we have found favor with US Senator Tommy Tubberville out of Alabama, and so we had the coach on in the month of July. It's always it's always fun to visit with Coach Tubberville.
Good morning.
I'm doing pretty good, to be honest with you, but I'm in the clown show, so it's hard to feel good up here. But I'm just just looking forward to another great day here in our great country.
Yeah, the clown Show.
Indeed, before we unpack some of that, I was just teeing up something you're working on with Senator Mike Lee, the Save Act. It's unfortunate we're at a time where we have to worry about illegals voting. But Senator, I'm going to ask you what I've asked other members of Congress. If the southern border invasion is not intentional, then what what is it?
It's one hundred and ten percent intentional. They keep saying, well, it's only seven to eight ten million, It's at least twenty million with the godaways we've I just came back from Panama City, Panama for inauguration. I'm a new president down there, and we were talking about the Daring Gap with some operatives that control it down there work for the United States, and they have five to ten thousand a day come across the Darian Gap headed to our
southern border. And now it's a lot of Africans that are ISIS and so that we live in a dangerous world. Now we live in a dangerous country because the Democrats refuse to protect the citizens of this country. And if you're a Democrat and you're voting for this, we're going to deserve everything that we get. And it's coming right down in our alley, and you better start listening and open your years instead of worrying about policy.
Let me ask you, Senator, do you think that the climate look members of the other side of the aisle. Democrats are recognizing this is a massive vulnerability for them in the upcoming elections. And the fact of the matter is their standard bearer, the Resident of the United States, and yes I use that word intentionally, resident is not going to help them down ballot one bit. Is the climate better to see something like the Save Act passed now?
If for no other reason them covering their rear ends has no chance.
Chuck Schumer laughed at us when we drew this up. Chuck, Chip Roy, Mike Lee and how I got together and said, we've got to do something. Because there's fifty states, as we all know, in the United States of American, nineteen of them now have decided to give driver's license and social Security and Medicare to illegal aliens. Nineteen states. And while they're in there signing up for Social Security, Medicare and all these benefits, they also get them to register
to vote. And folks, we are in a dangerous time when we are allowing people to come in this country for just a matter of months or weeks and be able to vote for the future of our country. And so that just shows you how much I to touch these democrats are because all they want is power. They don't care what happens to our country. They just want power to be able to control everybody and live the life that they want to live.
Coach, we were talking this morning about a release from the National Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines, confirming that Iranian nationals are in this country and they are behind along with organizations inside the country sympathetic to the laws of anti Semitism and the violence against Jews, the protests on college campuses. This sort of underscores the whole point of what's going on on our southern border.
Doesn't it exactly? And that what James has been privy to this the entire time. We have no fighters in this administration, especially in the intelligence section, to go to the White House say listen, do y'all know what you're doing. Y'all understand what's happening. But we've got no fighters. We just have people that just go along to get along, just to take a job, just fall in line like the rest of them and continue to bring our country to a point that we've never been. So it's a
difficult time. It's gonna get worse even when President Trump gets elected. Hopefully that happens. If it doesn't, our country will never be the same. It's gonna take him a while to get things back straight because they have done terrible damage to the United States for America.
Coach, You've been inside the Senate long enough now to know do you feel as though there are enough Republicans in the House and the Senate and maybe we need to project this post November that will support an agenda of putting America first.
Well, it's going to be close. Yeah, I think a lot of it's going to depend on the election of some of these new Senators and new House members that you're in. But what we have to do is we have to make sure that people across the country require the people that come here don't fall in line as typical deep state bureaucrats and politicians. They fall in line to represent the people of this country. And that's what's
happening right now. We got people, even on the Republican side that I'm going, I'm going, why would you vote for an Infrastructure Actors one point five three, And now I'm all for that if it goes to that, but half of it goes to other countries for climate change out of our country. That does not help our country whatsoever. And you know, all they do is they launder the money and they stick in their pockets. So it is corrupt,
corruption to the tenth degree. And we just need good people to come up here and add to the fact that we do have people here that will fight for the United States and put America first.
What is it that some of you that are more not more, that are conservative, that are genuinely America first? What can you do to help any new member of Congress elected in the House or Senate not make the same hires of the same bureaucrats that will run their offices and basically tie them to the same old ways of doing things.
Well, one thing I did notice when I got here is most of the offices up here are run by twenty five to thirty five year old young people that are up here and do the busy work behind the scenes. A lot of these people come up here thinking that hey, I'm a senator, I'm a congressman, and you know, I've made it to the Promised Land, and I'm gonna go out and do fundraisers and go to dinners and lunches. If you're not gonna come up here to work and try to put America first, don't come. I don't care
if you're a Democrat Republican. Come up here and represent your people. And another thing, people come up here say forever. Joe Biden's been here fifty years. He should have left twenty years ago. We got Mitch McConnell to spend here almost the same amount of time.
It's time to go home.
It's time to give people an opportunity to serve their people of their state. Because what happens this becomes a hey, I need I want seniority, I want power. I want to be able to be senator in front of my name. I don't want people to call me senator. I don't people call me coach. I really much would rather be a coach. But I'm here to represent our country in
the state of Alabama. I'm enjoying that. But I'm gonna tell you it's a fight because people I've never seen like the egos from all these lawyers, these third rate lawyers, now there's some good people over here, but most of them couldn't make it in the private world. So I'll just run for politics and make a name for myself. Well, we've got some up here on both sides that do exactly that.
Lastly, before I let you go, the GOP platform was released by the Republican National Committee.
What are your thoughts?
It was good, It was short and sweet. Normally these things are.
We've lost you, senator. Okay, we have lost the senator. I'm not sure what's happened man. That phone signal see Washington. They're jamming him. They're jamming him. They're not letting him talk. Yeah, our visit was strangely interrupted. Oh, it's so good. We've found favor with so many wonderful guests over the years.
And Senator Tommy Tubberville, a friend of the radio program Go Figure, Alabama, US senator regular on the morning show with Preston Scott, and we're delighted to have him with us. All right, that polishes off our number one. This is day seven of the twelve Days of Preston. If you're just joining us recapping the year twenty twenty four, is our gift to you as we're taking a little bit
of a break. We are going through the seventh month, since it's the seventh day of the twelve days, so more to come when we come back here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Yes, I know Christmas is in the rear view mirror, but not in our hearts. It's day seven of the twelve Days of Preston our number two. Welcome friends, just checking here, and of course we've got twenty twenty five around the corner and we will usher that in with you during the twelve days.
This is a look back at twenty twenty four and in the seventh day of the twelve Days of Preston. It's the month of July, the seventh month of the year. Remember when we were optimistic about Florida State football running it back another run at a national title, the playoffs.
The ACC title for sure.
Yes, back in July when we talked to irisheffellowarchand dot com sprang eternal. And it's time, my friends, to talk a little FSU football. And we are joined by Irish Chaffell, the managing editor of war Chant dot Com. Ira, I gotta tell you, my friend, with the stuff I've had to talk about the last few weeks.
This is just warm and fuzzy time for me, pal.
Yeah, it's college football finally here man, we got acc kickoff starts today at Charlotte and then in just I guess two days Florida State to open practice, and then one month after that will be in Dublin for kickoff of the season.
Ah. Now you are in Charlotte.
Give everybody just a little snapshot what happens over these few days, A lot.
Of talking, just the talking season has officially begun.
Well.
Mike Norvella is here with three players, Darius Washington, the offensive lineman, defensive lineman, Josh Farmer, and Patrick Payton. They're going to start their interviews this morning get ten thirty. It's actually something nice that FSHU does. They'll make their contingent available to basically just the FSU media who made the trip up here first at around ten thirty, and
we'll have videos and updates from that. Then they'll just be basically going through a battery of interviews with everyone from radio stations. They'll have radio row like you see like the Super Bowl obviously should bee familiar with, and then you know, just basically breakout rooms with different reporters. ESPN will get a plenty of time with them, and the ACC network will get plenty of time with them, and basically they'll go through that till about five o'clock today.
Then those three schools, the three schools going today are FSU, Georgia Tech, and SMU. Then there'll be three more schools tomorrow, three more schools the next day, and then the final day is Thursday with the final three schools. I believe Clemson's going on the final day, Miami's going tomorrow or Wednesday, I'm not sure which. But they broke it up over four days this year, which is different. It used to
be two or three days. And now with the conference being you know, I don't know, thirty five, forty teams whatever it is, now they're gonna split it out over three days.
I right, I think I know the answer to this. But I have to ask, do you sense any grudge among the FSU party shall we call it and ESPN? Uh?
You know, it's funny. I made a comment to Mike Norvela probably a month or so ago he did an interview with Greg McIlroy, and some FSU fans on our message boards were mad that he wasn't he didn't show any animosity towards McElroy and in Nord Bell was like he kind of shruged the shoulders.
He's like, I don't.
Remember who said what. You know, Look, in his job, he obviously can't do anything. It's not gonna help him if he if he comes across as bitter or angry, it's not really gonna help him. The players, I don't know that they saw it, you know, just from what I can gather, I don't know that they saw it as much as an ESPN thing as much as they did just a sport of college football. You know, the sport is a as a whole. They felt like wrong them.
I you know, you and I may believe I certainly do the ESPNS at the heart of that, but I don't know that the players see it that way. Suddenly it'll be civil, especially you know, for Mike Norvell, He's going to be a professional no matter what.
AIRA.
What's the most important thing that happened between the end of the season and the start of the new season for this year's team. Was it the arrival of Djala or was it something else?
Yeah, I think it's one hundred percent of DJ leungalway.
Thank you, you said it right.
Yeah, hey man, it's I probably shoot about sixty percent on that. Well, we'll see, we'll take it up. I hit one, but yeah, you know, yeah, I think that
to me, that changes the complexion of everything. I think if you if Florida State had decided and a lot of people thought they may do this, that you know, after going thirteen to one and losing as many players they did, ten players to the NFL Draft, several other players signed this free agent, that maybe this would be a little bit of a step back year and kind
of reload next season. But once they decided to go out and get DJ, to me, that was a pretty strong sign that Mike Norvel's not in the of the mindset that this is gonna be a reloading year, that he thinks this is a year because you only get him for one year, and this is a year where if you wanted to build for the future, you could get Brock Glann and maybe even the other freshman quarterback Louke Cromenhawk some experience this season to kind of build
them for next season. Going out and getting DJ, and then you saw them really go out hard in the transfer portal again, getting Malink Benson, the wide receiver from Alabama. Actually they got five players from Alabama. They got Martin Jones junior from Georgia. They really went out and got a lot of marquee players, probably the highest profile transfers that they've gotten since they've been in Florida State. And I think it's a sign that that Mike Norvelt wants to have another big season.
I rah, if you go back to the success of Bobby Bowden, whether it was with Brad Scott as his OC or Mark Rick as his offensive coordinator, I look at the way that they ran that quarterback room and how they got those backups really good playing time in their freshman sophomore years, and they did that real smart turnover.
Are you thinking that that's kind of what Norvel is embracing the possibility of let's get some games put away and get these other guys out on the field, or let's get them out on the field either way and get them some meaningful snaps whether the game's in balance or not.
I think this is I personally think this is going to be a year where they do try to get certainly them quarterbacks, but a lot of other positions as well, get some guys opportunities because it does two things. Number one is it helps you build to the future. But also number two, it gives you an idea of what you have for the next year and what you need to go get in the next year. You know. Like defensively,
I think Florida rotates extremely well. You know, even last year when you had Jared Versus and Patrick Payton the defensive end right, they rotated in a lot of younger defensive ends. I think you may see more of that offense, especially I've got some young receivers Hai Keith Williams, some of these younger guys, the freshmen that they signed, the receiver
Elijah Moore and these other guys. I think they're gonna want to see what those guys can do to give them an idea of what they need to do in the transfer portal next season, or if they can rely on more of those homegrown guys.
On the defensive side. Was Patrick Payton flirting with departing FSU a result of NIL and was that why he was retained or was it something else.
I think it was a combination. Part of it was a little bit in il I think it was a lot of those frustration that when that all happened in December, you know, and the emotions were so raw for this football team because you know, they had done everything they
were told they were supposed to do. They went undefeated, they won the ACC championship, and then they got left out of the playoff, and I think there was a period of time there where things were uneasy in the throughout the program where guys, a lot of guys were kind of wondering, you know, can we win the national championship at ACS in Florida City? Are they going to hold the ACC against us? Are they going to hold
this conference against us? With deciding who to take? And so I think it was a lot of things, but it ultimately for Florida State, I think they did a really good job of getting to him and just explaining to him, listen, man, everything's fine. I don't think it was a situation where he's holding them hostage. I just think there was a lot of frustration. But then I certainly was part of it, and it always will be in this state of college football.
Oh if only.
You know I know that it's so dated because it's back in July and we thought, right, we thought that things were going to be better. But that's what makes these shows fun is you get to go back and think about how the year unfolded in what we were thinking back then, and we were thinking we'd have a good football season. But there's more to life than football, right, and there's more to come on the Twelve Days of Preston.
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We're very fortunate not only do we have great political figures, figures from the world of sports and entertainment, but even reality TV as well. Brandon Fugl Brandon is chairman of Colliers International. He is also the co executive producer of and the owner of the Skinwalker Ranch, but the executive producer co executive producer of the series Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
Brandon Fugel Brandon, good morning, welcome, How.
Are you hey doing great? Good morning from Utah, and it's a pleasure to be with you.
I appreciate the time, of course tonight, reminding our listeners that we've got another Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. Perhaps we'll learn more tonight at nine o'clock Eastern, eight o'clock Central. Brandon, when was Skinwalker Ranch on your radar, and why'd you decide to buy it.
I'd first heard of this mysterious ranch back in two thousand and five. Two thousand and six, there's a book published called Hunt for the Skinwalker that was published by a scientist and an Emmy Award winning journalist, George Knapp out of Las Vegas, documenting a scientific investigation of a property in northeastern Utah. It was supposedly the site of more UFO activity, bizarre cattle mutilations, and strange anomalies, I mean,
almost poltergeist like activity. I thought it was intriguing because it was in our backyard. It's about two and a half hours from Salt Lake City, out in the remote area the Uenta Basin in the middle of tribal lands.
But didn't really think anything more of it until two scientists brought me the opportunity to meet with this elusive billionaire, Robert Bigelow Bigelow Aerospace, who'd made his fortune in real estate and had owned the property for decades and had taken the scientific investigation of this property very very seriously, to the point that the United States government had launched a Pentagon funded black budget program focused on the property
and using this property. Skinwalker Ranch is really the center of gravity for documenting and studying what many people refer to in general as the phenomena.
When you mentioned Robert Bigelow, I think a lot of people know about NIDS and the cooperative with the government.
What we don't know is what happened. Were you ever able to find out what happened?
Yeah?
The program ran for years, was tens of millions of dollars and involved over fifty research science, military officials and whatnot, but was disbanded in twenty thirteen, and for a number of reasons. I think there were several people that were uncomfortable in Washington with the subject matter, and for whatever
reason that it was disbanded. But a couple of years later after that, I received a call from these scientists that were advisors who I had met when I was funding another effort in Utah, and they thought I would be a prime candidate to meet with mister Bigelow and potentially not only acquire the property but take it forward. I had to point out to them that I was
a skeptic. I'd never seen a UFO, a ghost or anything of the sort, and I would be buying the property most likely to debunk it, to bring in my own scientists and investigators to show that there was nothing really to it, that there was a natural, prosaic explanation likely for all that had been reported. So I bought it from mister Bigelow as a skeptic and was very shocked months later to learn that there was truth to what was being reported there. And the rest is history,
as they say. But I kept my identity secret. I had no interest in having my name associated with these topics. In fact, for four years I invested millions of dollars into establishing the scientific platforms and the research efforts secretly out at this mysterious piece of property. And it wasn't until producers of the History Channel convinced me to allow a docuseries effort to actually present what is happening to the public that I was persuaded to to really come forward.
But it was a sobering moment to shift gears and come forward with the reality of the effort, which remains that a hit series on History Channel. In fact, we're very fortunate to have millions of year millions of viewers globally, as we're right in the middle of our fifth season of revealing. I believe what is the most compelling evidence of not only UFO activity, but other high strangeness using science and technology.
Brandon, has anyone with the federal government ever reached out to you, officially or unofficially to discuss sure.
To my surprise, two years into owning the property secretly without identifying my identity as the owner, after we'd taken data and really advanced the investigation, I was surprised to receive call from officials in Washing asking me to fly out with my team to provide a full briefing including data documenting the reality of what we were experiencing. And so we flew out with our team of scientists and
provided a full overview. Not only addressed and provided the video evidence of UFO activity that have been documented under my stewardship, but also some disturbing things acute medical episodes. Several individuals, unfortunately under my watch, have ended up in the emergency room at the hospital with mysterious illnesses and injuries as a result of their activity and just being
on the ranch. We've had some bizarre cattle mutilation events that have occurred historically on the property, and we've seen that's to a degree continue with strange events that have been documented this year on this most recent season, but we provided that full overview several years after I had purchased the property, and it was it was an eye opening exchange and one that underscored the fact that there are many who are taking it very seriously, that our
airspace is being violated by craft objects of unknown origin, that there is more than meets the eye going on in our world, and that we truly aren't alone in the universe. And this investigation, I think is unique in that it's it not only documents, but brings to the public side in a very transparent way the reality that we're not alone and these these disturbing topics merit consideration.
Brandon, last question, because I want I respect your time and I appreciate you carving some time out for us so early in the morning, especially where you are back in Utah. Thank you very very much. Is there one thing that you personally have witnessed, not that the data has shown you, not that video has shown you, but you've personally seen on the property that has confounded you the most.
Yeah, you know, I bought it as a skeptic. As I mentioned, earlier. I'd never seen anything like a UFO or an ORB or a ghost or anything of this nature until about six months into purchasing the property. I was hosting certain dignitaries for what I believed would be just a tour of the property, which is the secure site that has been locked down with armed surveillance since since nineteen ninety six. Well, on that day everything changed for me. I went from being an open minded skeptic
to not just a believer but an experiencer. When myself and several others, several other witnesses sitting by my side witnessed appear right in front of us in broad daylight four o'clock in the afternoon on October fourteenth, twenty sixteen, what can only be described as a forty to fifty foot long flying saucer, a silver, grayish dislike object that maneuvered and changed position in ways that just defy any conventional explanation. That event, which was preceded by one gentleman,
be rendered catatonic. Are smartphones being drained from us around eighty percent to zero and other electromagnetic anomalies that have been documented left all of us stunned, and it completely changed my entire trajectory. In that moment, I went from being a skeptic to not a believer, but an experiencer, and that drives our investigation and this hit docuseries to this day, and we were really thankful to have people tuning in following our journey. My deal with the History
Channel is that nothing can be faked, contrived, manipulated. They have to present everything as it unfolds. I have too much to lose, and I put everything on the line as far as my reputation in service to really documenting the reality of the phenomenon and these topics which fall very far outside of my conventional business activities within the commercial real estate realm. So it's been a crazy ride.
Don't go away, There's more to come on the Twelve Days of Preston. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston. Let's take you to July twenty twenty four. The debate had just happened between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, and I visited with Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute to talk about all the what ifs. I am sitting back Justin, and I'm half marveling, half laughing at what's happening in the wake of the debate and the Democrats and all
that's what's going on. I now am seeing stories leaked on everyone's theories, Axios, and now this Semaphore article.
Who's running the White House?
You know, I believe that Barack Obama's been running the White House from day one? But what do you make of all of this? I call it subterfuge that's going on now in the wake of the debate.
Well, I think that Joe Biden hasn't been running the White House since he got there. I think that was pretty obvious.
Really.
I think it was also pretty obvious that he never had the mental capabilities to do this job the entire time he's been there. I think that was also pretty clear. It's the reason why they hit him in his basement when he was running for president in twenty twenty. I mean, why did they do that? Why wasn't he out on the campaign trail with Donald Trump for much of that period of time. A lot of it had to do with there were too many slip ups, too many problems,
too many things they've had to concealed. Of course, things have just gotten worse and worse and worse. Over time, he's probably gotten less and less involved. But there's a whole gigantic, as you pointed out, Obama connected political apparatus in DC that's within the Democratic Party and within the White House, and they're the ones setting the policy agenda, and Biden is just blindly signing off on a lot of this stuff. So I don't think any of this
is really a secret. The reason why we're seeing the media react the way they are now is not because they're just learning that Joe Biden is mentally incompetent.
They've known that.
That's one of the reasons why they've picked him in the first place. The reason why they're going crazy is because they think he might lose now, and before they didn't think he would lose, and so now they're they're terrified of Trump getting back into the White House and rolling back everything that this Obama administration two point zero has been putting into place. And that's what this is all about. The elites and the big donors and the
Obama political machine. I don't care what Barack Obama that says publicly. They don't believe Joe Biden can win anymore, and Joe Biden they're clearly trying to push him out, and Joe Biden is saying, I'm the president, I'm not leaving, I don't care. And that's being driven largely by his ego, by his family, by money and things like that, not by anything for the good of the country or the
good of the party or anything. And I think that this is this is We're just why watching an unprecedented civil war within the Democratic Party, and it is beautiful and glorious to watch. I wish it was like us all the time.
I commented back a couple of years ago, maybe longer, that I didn't think Joe would be the nominee when it's all said and done for twenty twenty four. But I thought it was going to be the Hunter Biden laptop, and I saw signs that the media was starting to crack on that story. But now they got handed a gift. It's not all that dissimilar. Just in too, they got handed the gift with COVID. COVID was a gift that just kept giving to the Democrats and changing the whole election.
And I feel like now Biden's performance in the debate is giving him that gift. So here's my question when the smoke clears, who's going to be on the ticket, because now it sounds as though everybody's saying Kamala Harris with Gavin Newsom as her VP.
Right, has to be Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket because that's the only way that they get to keep the Biden Harris money that they've raised so far, which is a ton of money. So the only way to keep that and use it for this presidential election cycle would be for Kamala Airs to be at the top of the ticket if it's not Biden.
Justin we never talked about the Uniform Law Commission. Give us the thumbnail version of that and its importance.
Right.
So, the Uniform Law Commission is one of the most powerful far left wing organizations in the country. Most people have never heard of them, but they're highly influential in especially in state legislatures. It's a group that's been around for a very, very long time. They're officially a sort of a nonprofit organization of lawyers and academics and people like that that advise states on what to do with the with various uniform laws. They're trying to get uniform
laws passed in all fifty states. The biggest uniform law that they are involved with is something called the Uniform Commercial Code, which regulates commercial laws, real estate, all sorts of different things in economic policies in all fifty states.
So the idea was they started rolling this out fifty sixty years ago something like that in all the states, with the idea being, we want the Commercial Code to look relatively similar in all fifty states, because if you don't have it the same or close to the same, you're going to run into all kinds of problems with interstate commerce and businesses who operate in one state and then they want to move to another state.
And so.
On the surface, it just sounds like a really boring organization, but over the past ten to twenty years they have become increasingly more radical and now they're openly advocating for very far left wing policies, which is something that they were not known forever. They are funded by your tax dollars, which really shocks a lot of people, but the Uniform Law Commission gets official fund from state appropriations in all
fifty states. Republican lawmakers have a very high opinion of the Uniform Law Commission, as do Democratic lawmakers, And to give you a sense of just some of the kinds of policies that they've been pushing recently, there's this Public Health Emergency Authority Act, which would essentially turn governors in all fifty states into many dictators in the event of another public health emergency, which of course the governor gets to declare, and there are really no rules or clear
definitions of what a public health emergency is, right, and it would give him the power or her the power to regulate literally almost every part of your life.
It could even kill They could.
Even kill livestock, and shut down public buildings and take control over public services and all kinds of crazy stuff, all without needing to pass another law. This is the kind of thing that they're pushed at the Uniform Law Commission. So an incredibly powerful organization that needs to be stopped. We need to stop funding them, we need Republican lawmakers stop listening to them. And it is a huge uphill battle to get states to understand just how dangerous this group has become.
Justin you opined recently about some changes with the electoral college that could be useful to the former president.
Explain, Yeah, this is really incredible I don't know why it's not getting it. It's more of an interesting thing as opposed to a proposed law or something like that. But every ten years, the electoral college changes because the electoral college is the vote the way that apport the electoral college votes are apportioned among the states. The reason for that is because the electoral college is directly tied to the number of representatives that are in Congress in
the different states. So every ten years, when they do the census, they reapportion congressional apportionment and and as a result, they do the same thing for the electoral college. So when they did it this last time, it didn't take effect in twenty twenty it's the last presidential election, but it now will take effect. In twenty twenty four, there were thirteen states that experienced small changes to the electoral
college vote count. Seven of them lost to state California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, five gained one state Colorado, Florida, Montana, North Carolina, and Oregon, and one state Texas gained two votes. And when you add all this up, what it amounts to is a four vote electoral vote. Swing for quote unquote red states. Now, the reason this matters so much is not because four votes is the biggest number in
the world. But when you actually start playing around with the electoral map and how things might turn out, what you realize pretty quickly is that Donald Trump's path to the White House or any Republican path to the White House in twenty twenty four is going to be a lot easier compared to twenty twenty because of these small changes.
So one illustration of this is that in twenty twenty, had Trump beat Biden in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia, which is all states that Trump lost, Trump would have still been one electoral College vote shy of getting to two seventy. Under twenty twenty rules, now he would have enough to win. So he only needs to win those three states that
he lost last time. He went all the same states he won last time, and he recaptures those three states which were really really close, he would win outright easily.
Oh the insight that man brings. Justin Askins at the Heartland Institute, it's the twelve Days of Preston. Stay with us more to come. Welcome back to the Twelve Days of Preston.
Great to be with you. I'm Preston Scott. This is our gift to you.
I'll look back at the year twenty twenty four kind of in chronological order. This being the seventh day of the twelve days, it's the month of July, and so we're going back into July and digging out of the archives some stories, some segments, and I bet some of you are wondering, is he going to get to it? July thirteenth, Butler, Pennsylvania. Yeah, yeah, I think it's about time we touch on that.
Now.
Remember this particular show that we're gonna pull from is the Monday after the attempt at assassination on Donald Trump. It happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. And keep in mind, we didn't know very much when we began to look at what we knew at the time. Now, picture's worth a thousand words, but we got a thousand words, you know, We've got We've got plenty. We have information now about the shooter. We know more about the shooter. As is always the case, I will not use the shooter's name.
I only I'm okay with using it. In the hours subsequent to this event, even a couple of days, and I suppose I could use it, if only so that we get as much complete information as possible about the
any any other people this guy hung with. But I think at this point, based on my personal looking into this and information that I've been sent that I've come across, plus, I think I'll go ahead and say that we do have connections inside the Federal Bureau of Investigationation, and we do have information that is in on one hand, helpful
and on another hand incriminating about what took place. And so we're kind of mining through all of the different sources of information, the different silos that we have, and I'm going to go to the I'm not using the guy's name because I have no interest in helping him live on in infamy. I want him to be forgotten for the loser that he was, and it would it would seem that that played a role in all of this.
But again, well we'll see.
So stick around twenty seven past the hour the big stories in the press box. It's one big story will unfold this morning on.
The program This is the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Thirty five minutes I asked the hour, it's Monday, on the morning show show fifty one to ninety five on Preston Jared's Over There with a producer to be named later.
Read in the radio broadcast. Big story in the press box is obvious.
It happened Saturday afternoon at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
When a twenty year old kid ended up killing.
A former firefighter who, by all accounts dove and protected his family, and he paid for it with his life. Former President Trump was shot. Was it a ricochet? Was it just barely a misshot? It looks as though it was just he just was missed barely. The shooter was one hundred and thirty yards away from an elevated position using a long gun. Graduated from high school just a few years ago. He's a twenty year old from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania.
When he was seventeen, made a fifteen dollars donation to Act Blue, a political action committee that raises money for left leaning Democrat politicians, but he was registered Republican. I don't think any of that matters. What seems to matter is that he has apparently always been a bit of an outcast, an outsider, had been bullied when he was in school, at least that's what's being said about him. The FBI will be able to get a full markup of who he was psychologically.
They're trying to open up his phone.
What they found was that he had inside his car parked nearby the rally explosive devices. He had at least one ied and improvised explosive device. He had materials consistent with bomb making. Don't know whether those were found in his home or in the car or both. Don't know. I can't imagine what his family's going through. Best as they can tell. The gun was purchased by the father. Did he steal the gun, was the gun given to him, don't know. Don't know yet what kind of gun it was, specifically,
I've not seen a confirmed report. A firearms expert, Larry Johnson with the Gateway Pundit and article here, said that he believes that based on sound, it was a twenty two long rifle. It could have been suppressed, don't know. There were failures galore with the advanced team. Now that gets to what I think is the heart of the issue. I think that you could very safely step back and say, well, this was certainly not a professional hit. I can tell you that based on video that I've seen, there's one
victim too seriously injured. But the one victim who was killed appears to have been in the line of fire in some form, and perhaps there was a sort of a pull with the trigger and that shot was missed low in to the left, and that's where it hit someone attending the rally, because use that person was elevated slightly and to the right of Trump, and the shooter was to the right of Trump, and so that victim
was in the line of fire. But there are some very disturbing details that we're going to unpack this half hour. Protection comes from Homeland Security and the director, Alejandro Majorcus, has denied the accusation that stronger Secret Service protection was requested and denied by the Secret Service by him trying
to get Congressman Michael Waltz on the program. He made the accusation, quoting I have very reliable sources telling me there have been repeated requests for stronger security protection for President Trump, denied by Secretary my Orcus.
I have.
Someone that that I'll just share is a source for the program that has connections inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation and over the years has proven pretty reliable because we got information on the you know, the the UH could the ethics corruption probe sorry that the FBI did here in town, as well as some other things over the years, and they had received all kinds of intelligence that there was going to be an attempt on Trump's life. Did they know about this kid? Probably not, but I
don't know that for certain. Here's what I know. Joe Biden said that there will be increased Secret Service security for Trump. So if the security was at the level it was supposed to be, then why in the world are we now having the current occupier of the White House say every resource, capability and protective measure necessary to ensure his continued safety will be provided. I thought it was. Here's how I know it wasn't because they were totally
inadequately staffed. More to come from the Twelve Days of Preston. Welcome to the Twelve Days of Preston. Hour number three of dat number seven. That of course means it's month number seven that we're chronicling, and that's the month of July. This is a look back at the year twenty twenty four in order, and this is our Christmas gift to you as we're away on break.
We will be.
Back with live shows on Monday, January the fifth. Now that's January the sixth, and so we'll be back with you on Monday the sixth. Anyway, there was no bigger story in the month of July than the attempted assassination of former President now President elect Donald Trump. And I discussed it with all my guests, including Hans von Spakowsky of the Heritage Foundation.
Look, I was just shocked, like all of America was at it, and thank god, the split second decision of the present turn his head saved his live. But you know, I watched Joe Biden last night saying no violence, that's no place, and we need to lower the temperature of the political rhetoric. Well, he needs to talk to his
speech writers. You know, it's Joe Biden that has called Donald Trump a dictator, a threat to democracy, the New Republic, you know, which is filled with with Joe Biden's political allies. The writers there, you know, put out an entire journal comparing him to Adolf Pedler and saying he's a fascist. I mean, the the high temperature of the rhetoric has been almost all coming from Joe Biden's side of the
political aisle. So yeah, they should lower the temperature. And look, it's one thing to disagree with a policy, but to call somebody a fascist, a dictator, a threat to democracy, that's the kind of thing that is that engenders violences.
I couldn't help but take note of the fact that in the hours subsequent to the event, the mainstream media stumbled all over itself, first talking about loud noises and only begrudgingly being called to the carpet and had to correct itself and say, yeah, it was an assassination attempt. It's we're fighting forces here that are not just evil, but they're on every front.
Yeah.
And look, as another example of this, Benny Thompson, you know, representative from Mississippi. Yeah, he fired one of his staffers over the weekend who put out a tweet saying, boy, you know, basically that she wished this guy had had better aims. Now, yeah, Benny Thompson fired her, But as far as I know, he hasn't withdrawn the bill that he introduced that would withdraw Secret Service protection from Donald Trump. So you know, that's the kind of thing we've been
dealing with with all of this. By the way, preston weird historical coincidence. The last time that a former president who was running for another term someone attempted to assassinate it was nineteen twelve, Teddy Roosevelt in Milwaukee.
Oh my, just what we need that kind of irony.
Yeah.
And by the way, the only reason Teddy Roosevelt survived he was hit in the chest by a gunman. And the only reasons he survived again one of these weird coincidences. The same way Donald Trump turned his head the last second, the bullet hit his folded up speech at his glasses case which he had in his pocket over his chest.
It actually provides a segue to this week. We will have to transition at some point from the events of the past to the events of the now and the future. And the Republican National Convention is going to begin in just a few short hours, and Hans von Spakowski with me from the Heritage Foundation. Hans, if you google project twenty twenty five, there is nothing but the typical responses and pushbacks and how it's going to destroy democracy, which
candidly wouldn't upset me because we're a constitutional republic. But let's talk about it. Why is this being so smeared?
Well, look, this has been out. We started this project in twenty twenty two and it's been out for more than a year. Why would all of a sudden this come up like this? Why would Joe Biden personally be attacking it his speech that he gave. It's a distraction being put forward by Democrats from the mental and physical disabilities of their nominee. It's trying to distract people from that. And look, but look this actually ties into what I
was talking about before. Here's what Project twenty twenty five is. In twenty twenty two, we got together literally several hundred individuals, all from over one hundred and twenty conservative think tanks and other organizations, and we said, look, if you were put in charge of the federal government, how would you run each of the agencies in the very large department.
And what we came up.
With was a nine hundred page policy book. And it's no secret. People can go to Project twenty twenty five dot org and take a look at it, and there's a chapter on every department, department, adjustice the Education Department, saying how those departments need to be reformed and run.
But the way this.
Ties into what we were talking about before Preston is, Look, it's one thing for the Biden campaign and Democrats to take specific proposals in that thing and say, well, we disagree with it. I mean, for example, on American energy, we say we should authorize more oil and gas leases, we do more drilling. You know, if they want to disagree with that, fine, But instead the Biden campaign put out this long list of things that they claimed it does,
almost all of which are totally false. They're fabrications. I give you just one or two quick examples. The Biden campaign put out a list that said that, oh, this would ban no fault divorce. Divorce is nowhere mentioned in the nine hundred page policy book. In fact, you know how the federal government should be run. Divorces a state issue. So they lied.
I mean.
Another one is that they claim it would ban all contraceptives across the country. Again, that is a total lie. They just made that up. Contraceptives aren't mentioned anywhere in this proposal. So they're trying to generate this crazy, bizarre criticism of it by essentially telling lies, rather than having a substantive argument about what's really in it.
But that's kind of the pattern of illiberalism. They attack personally and just flat and make things up as opposed to have to stand there and have a discussion or debate on the issues at hand.
Yeah, unfortunately that's true, and we see it in what's happening here. By the way, I had to laugh when I saw that this list, this long list that had been put out by the Biden campaign was repeated by in a twitter by Mark Hamill, you know who played Luke Skywalker.
Hans van Sparkowski with me from the Heritage Foundation, weighing in a little bit on Project twenty twenty five, which the President has not embraced, though there's some great ideas that I think he will sort of his own way take on as his own back with more of the Twelve Days of Preston. Welcome back to the third hour of the Twelve Days of Preston. This is the month of July and we're chronicling interviews, stories, things we talked
about on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Of course, I love talking to authors, and when you combine that with people that have served our country, well, what you get is Admiral Bob Harward and his book The Gouge.
Good person, how are you today?
I'm terrific. I First, let me get this said up front. Thank you for your service to our country.
Sir. It's an honor to speak with you.
Oh my friend, thank you, But it's almost embarrassing. It was the greatest honor and privilege and the greatest adventure known. So I loved every day of it. So I appreciate people saying that, but they don't understand. It was like women the lottery. So I'm just grateful for all the support and the people who pay taxes and not enabled me to say. But I say that it's an important point.
I'd like to say, while all the Navy and Army is having a hard time meeting recruiting goals, I just find that unbelievable because it is such a great adventure and for any young person to have the opportunity to serve, they're missing by take it.
But thank you the Gouge.
I'm fascinated to know the backstory first and foremost behind the title.
How does a book get called the Gouge?
Great Christen. The gouge is a very infamous military term, predominantly in the navy, but it's permeated to other stuff. It's a famous term that originated World War two. So the book describes the history of the term, where it came from, how it supplied with stories and illustrations, and why it is so important. So the term itself indicates what if you ask the maybe guys, or if you're even google it, they'll attribute it to the inside information,
the scoop what you really need to know. And that's true. But it came up at War two when we went to war and we were building hundreds of ships. We needed to man all those ships, and experienced mariners and experienced navy people were few and far between. So on these ships when they we threw all these guys. And my father was one of those guys, a kid from Brooklyn and who went to the Merchant and Marine Academy so they could afford to go to school and graduated
in summer forty three. So he was flown on the ship with all these other people. And what they did was they trained and educated each other. They passed that experience proactively to everyone because they were going into war. They were sporting the landing of like ten, they were being shot at torpedoes Tomakazi's and so they knew the ship could be hit at any time and who knew who would survive, So you could end up having that
junior seaman running the ship. So they were very active and focused on making sure he knew everything that he needed to stay alive and run the ship. And they came up with the term called the gouge, and then that permeated throughout the Navy for decades on end. Hey, here's what you really need to know. Here's good gouge, or here's thumb gouge. But more importantly, and what the book is really trying to illustrate is not just the term or that inside information, but really that culture they
inculcated during World War II on those ships. How do you proactively educate, invest in each other to make sure you can accomplish the mission or build the business and grow individually. So it played across both the professional and personal objectives of each other. So if you're on a team,
you're in a business, you're in any organization. We struggled with this balance of growing the business, winning the football team, but at the same time growing your people, making sure they're goes succeed personally, just as you all do professionally. So that's what the gouge in the book is all about pressing.
Do you remember the first time the gouge imposed itself on you as a military professional without a doubt.
Now, my father, because he was a naval officer, he growing up as a kid. Okay, here's the gouge, and he called me dumas, which was short to them at you know, as a young kid. You know, okay, Dumas, here's what you need to know. But we're really and so in my family, my father kind of inculcate. But when I listed in the Navy, I grew up in Iran. I never had a job. When I graduated from high school, my curer houselor said, hey, you need to think about
what you're gonna do. Let's go to college. So I applied to colleges and I it was accepted at Colorado State. So I was gonna go be a ski bump because I love skiing. Iran has some of the best skiing in the world. And I went to show my father that I'd been accepted. He said, that's wonderful. I'm so proud of you, and he let that sink for Rowai and they said, uh, how are you gonna pay for that? And I thought, well, I never had a job going up and Iran. You couldn't work as hell. Dad, don't
you pay for those? Oh no, no, no, you're seventeen. Now you're on your own. But they have these wonderful things called Joe's.
I go, what's the job?
You know, someone asked you to do something and you do it and they give you money for it. Oh, my job? You know, well, we don't use that work. But so he kind of said, what but look, if you're listing the Navy, I could you could go to this Naval Academy prep school. And uh, it's seem like, now you go go to school, you'll do your sports, but they're gonna pay you. So I ended up on
that course. Well, I show up at the Naval Academy Prep School in Newport, Rhode Island, and you know, when you first and listens to shave the head, they're putting all your uniform. Here's how you make a bet, here's how you march. Here's all this information's coming at you real quick. And one of the seniors from the Naval Caminte who's running our training, pulled us all into the room and he said, okay, people, here's the gouge. And when he said that word, I thought, oh, my goodness,
this guy I believe in. He's gonna tell us something important here, and he did. He said, here's the gouge. You need to know. You're gonna do this louting, You're gonna do all this, but what you gotta focus on is grades. If you get the good grade, you'll be able to go to the naval capty. So instantaneously when he used that word the gouge to me a few things, I said, ooh, this is important. He's gonna tell us stuff.
They need to do.
But number two, it built trust and confidence in him. He took enough time to synthesize all this stuff that was coming out and here's what you really need to know. So I had instantaneous trust and confidence in him and the institution because they were focused on Needy and me developing and succeeded personally. So that was my real first experience of the gouge in uniform, and then it's played
out my career for over four decades. So yes, but that was just reinforced the principles and their culture and that trust and confidence and individuals and leaders when they used a gouge.
Admiral Bob Harward with me, the gouge is the name of the book, how to be Smarter than the situation you are in. When did you decide or what was it that inspired the idea that you could take these principles and then apply them after you left the military, and that they would be transferable to a civilian life, to the business world.
Very quested, and it was you know, I just had lived it, used it all my life, and it was a different journey. It was a different purpose. And I saw leaders in the defense industry who had no concept of this, and so that's what reinforced it. But more important to me and one of the reasons I really did this book and stuff that just still concerns me today.
You know, since nine to eleven, we lost over six thousand men and women in combat over the fifteen years, and each of them was tragic, but more tragic than that. At the same period, we dealt with one hundred and twenty five thousand suicide of active and retired and individuals of service. And this is why I think the gouge is so important. I still don't understand how any of those happened. I think sometimes transition from a close knit family and to a different environment is a challenge. I
think sometimes they lose their purpose. But the purpose of the gouge, I hope will contribute to driving down those numbers that we invest in our people, not just professionally but personally. So these transitions, these challenges in life, they can look through this a different lens and they have hope and belief in their futures. And then as individuals to prevent this. I believe cultures, the culture of the gouge and sharing that proactive leadership to develop our individuals
is a critical component of preventing these suicides. So that was a big rational and reason why I want to do this.
Admiral, I promised i'd get you out on time for your next visit. I appreciate you making time for us today and safe travels in the Ukraine. And again, thank you for serving our country, sir. It's been an honor.
Thank you very much, really appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
The Admiral Bob Harward and the book is the Gouge How to Be smarter than the situation you are in. It's a really good read, little edgy in places, but the guy's resume deserves the respect that we show and the book is definitely worth picking up. The gouge and my guest, Admiral Bob Harward. Yes, he was speaking to us from Ukraine traveling to Poland. Go figure here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Still more to come on the Twelve Days of Preston. Welcome back to the
Twelve Days of Preston. Of course, in July, a little past the midway point of the month, everybody, everybody was talking about one thing, and that is the attempted assassination of the former president now President elect, Donald Trump, including Bob McClure. Doctor McClure is president of the James Madison Institute.
You know, Preston, we were My wife and I were just kind of out running errand and came back to the house. So we were probably ten minutes after it happened, and I.
Was looking at the TV.
And I said, honey, you're not You're not gonna believe what just happened. But Donald Trump's been shot and at that moment, Preston, we didn't know if he was dead or not. He was still on the ground, and so it was. It was horrible for this country. I had tremendous fear for what might happen afterwards, because at that moment, I thought he might be dead. And then the man stood up and we heard, you know, let me get my shoes, Let me get my shoes. And then he
fifth pumped everybody. And I mean, you don't have to love the guy, but I got choked up. I mean I got choked up for this country when he did that, and it was it was an unbelievable moment that will be etched in everybody's history. They will know where they were when this happened. Today. You know what I find ironic, there's no writing in the streets by this horrible right wing conspiracy. There's nobody chanting, you know, death to the cops or or or you know, there's nobody burning buildings.
It's a maazing. You know, we're the right, the conservatives, and look Trump is not, you know, he's not the perfect conservative, but as an organization that believes in founding principles in smaller government, and we're always accused of somehow being you know, we're the ones who are the threat to democracy. I haven't seen any rights yet. I haven't seen any killings yet. I haven't seen any burnings yet.
Maybe you have.
Nope, No, But what I have seen, doctor McClure, is the inadequacy of the detail and the advanced protection for President Trump on Saturday has opened the door to a lot of questions. And I think that a lot of us are getting to where we're asking the question not so much was this any kind of conspiracy to kill Trump?
But was this allowed?
Because there's just there are too many protocols that were broken.
No, you're right, And the irony of it is Joe Biden and his press conference says, oh, I've got the FBI, the DOJ, the ATF, the ABC, the X y Z. You know, we're we're on top of this and we will get to the bottom of it. Really, does anyone really believe trust that that's going to happen, given what happened with the misinformation with COVID, given what we've seen
from this administration. I mean, it's ironic that a man who's been in DC for fifty plus years, who's never had a real job, who doesn't understand how the private sector works is saying, oh, we'll take care of it in Washington, and of course they do. They have to because obviously that's what happened. But I agree with you there was a breach. There was a stunning miscalculation something, and you know, I'm glad to see Speaker Johnson, who has really emerged. Preston I think is a real leader
of conservatism in ways I underestimated. I really liked Speaker Johnson. I believe they're going to get to the bottom of it, and I hope they do.
Doctor McClure I mentioned that if jd. Vance is on a debate stage with Kamala Harris, that's going to be a first round knockout. It reminded me of when Marco Rubio got on the stage with Charlie crist I felt like the moment that happened, that race was over. I feel similarly, though we vote as a ticket obviously, but your thoughts on the.
Pick, you know, I think Donald Trump went with He didn't go with the de I pick, did he Preston? He went with somebody he's comfortable with.
He went with somebody.
Who's incredibly accomplished. He you know, uh, former military marine, fought in Afghanistan, in business, you.
Know, accomplished author. The list goes on.
And his life story is just incredible, with hillbilly elgy and and and being raised by his grandmother and those kinds of things. He's incredibly articulate. You're absolutely right that debate is going to be It'll be over before it starts. And I mean the you know, the cards that she will play will be the same cards they always play
when they can't compete on the issues of policy. But really, look, if you look at the electoral map, George is coming off the map, Arizona's coming off the map, and then really Trump needs to find one more. I mean, assuming he wins everything he won last time, which he is right now, if Georgia comes off the map and Arizona comes off the bat not Nevada he needs. Nevada will come off the map too, but he needs more than
six electoral votes. He's just got to find one of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Virginia, Minnesota.
New Hampshire.
And it's over.
And so I think Jeddie Vance's not only is it the American dreamer at large his life, but it's going to appeal to those working class Americans in many of those Midwestern states who want their shot at the American dream. And that's what Donald Trump is promising. I mean, if Donald Trump wins every state, as I said that he won last time, he wins Georgia and Zona, he's just got to find a combination of eight or nine more votes. I can't remember the exact number, and he's there. So
it's one Wisconsin. I mean, if he went Pennsylvania, it's over combination Nevada, New Hampshire or something like that. And what you see is the map is expanding for Donald Trump, not contracting, and it's contracting for Joe Biden. And so you're right, and I think you're going to continue to see the census grow the states. The value freedom we've seen that. You know, we've all heard the term live free or die. Americans are choosing to live for your
move and it's we're seeing it. That's the great unfold conversation. That's a great untold story of this nation. Thousand people moving here today and they're moving the states. The value capital, freedom, opportunity, life, school choice, preston, those kinds of things. That's just going to continue to move in that direction. And it doesn't matter what your demographic is. You want your shot at them American dream too.
You know what you need to You need to raise a little money for JMI. I mean you can always use a few bucks, right, raise, Yeah, raise, get a T shirt done with the state of Florida and put that slogan on there, Live free or move Yeah. I mean you'll sell some shirts, my friend, and I'll help you.
I'll help you sell those shirts, all right.
I'll give you a finders. You know, we come off the debacle of bushby Gore, but then we had essentially eight years of Rick Scott in another now six years of Governor DeSantis.
And.
We have every form of voting in Florida. We have mail in, we have uh, you know, limited drop box you can drop off you know your you know, a few you have in person. And in a state like Florida with twenty two million, twenty three million people, if a people moving here today, two time zones, we know who wins every race. By midnight it's over.
Uh.
And there are several reasons for that one, and these are no particular order pressing. But we obviously have cleaned up the roles, so there are fewer and fewer dead people wrong people who are not on the rolls any anymore. My daughter lived in Atlanta and she was in a rental house and one election year she got six different ballots from six different names of people who had lived in that rental house previously. It's in Atlanta now, I think Brian Kipps cleaned that up. We don't have that
problem here in Florida. It's not perfect, but we've cleaned it up. The other thing is that.
You can track there.
There are guard rails on you know, on what you can and can't do. Uh, you're signing an affidavit, there's signature verification, there's ID required, and then they count the votes preston as they come in. You can look on Twitter and every day it'll say thirty thousand Republicans voted, twenty thousand Democrats, ten thousand no party affiliations. Now you don't know how they voted, but they're counted ahead of time. And so Florida has become the actual paragon of all
forms of voting. Sure, would we like to go back to one day voting paper ballots? Yeah, don't think that's going to happen in our lifetime, so just don't think it will.
Back with more of the Twelve Days of Preston right here on the Morning Show with Preston's kN My Christmas tree is still up I promise you that, and it'll be up a while longer. I usually go a little while, not like crazy, but I like it to linger. It's probably why I'm playing Christmas music as I do these
shows after Christmas. It's the Twelve Days of Preston. And our final segment for this particular month month of July was with my dear friend Jerome Hudson, author of the Fifty Things books and the entertainment editor at Breitbart dot Com, who waxes on all things not just entertainment, including his travels.
Good to be back in Jackon, Bill, You're a week in d C and a weekend in New York City.
Okay.
When you spend a week in d C followed by New York City, come on, you have to like you got to go through something.
State even more. Yes, Well, look I didn't get stabbed in New York City.
Okay, that's a win.
Ye yes, No, in d C for the Young Americans Foundation National Student Conference.
Okay, how did that go?
There's a blest time. We just around one hundred hundreds of young, vibrant, brilliant conservatives on college campuses, which you know have to be an extraordinary time these days. So yeah, I hung uh, caught up with Jim Jordan, chip Roy, the d transitioner, Chloe Cole, a lot of great content, and I just took a train up to New York City, hung out with some more Breitbart people and hosted our Brekbart new Sunday on the thirty sixth floor of the
Serious XM Tower there. Look, I'm blessed, and I'm just trying to share the God given wisdom that I've been blessed to have with the world. But I am happy to be home though.
All right, let's do kind of an audio version of a rorshack test. Okay, white dudes for Harris Well.
I mean, if if you're a liberal and a Democrat and you're listening to this program right now, you're probably not offended by that name, by that group, by the organization. But I also would be curious if you would be offended by white dudes for trumping celebrity and lawmaker packed zoom call raising money for the GOP nominee.
Now, no, hang on, hang on. For those that don't know, you and I are very close and dear friends, so I can say this to you. For those that do not know, the last time I checked, your black.
Milk chocolate American is how I.
Prefer to be.
Okay, okay, milk chocolate American. Fair enough, So I'll make that correction in my notes here. So when you talk about white dudes for Trump, white dudes for Harris, you speak to it. You speak to it from the perspective of a milk chocolate American.
No, I mean, yes that, But if I'm putting myself in the mind of the average liberal again hopefully listening to this broadcast, I understand and see the world through the prism of race. I okay, I'm Jerome now, and so so it's okay to have white dudes for Trump. I mean there are no like men of color allowed, which is on brand for Democrats, you know, segregating black people. I mean it's it's a white only sign literally. Uh,
raising money for Kamala Harris. I don't understand racial politics and and and the liberal left anymore.
Uh.
They've completely broken me. But they're doing this, and I thought Karen's for Kamala was the last shark that they would be able to jump, and I was wrong. They had Jeff Bridges on the zoom call Josh gadd who somebody needs to get get that guy into a gym or at least push him away from the twinkie table or something. But yeah, no, it it's amazing times. Hollywood's
doing everything that they can to elevate Kamala Harris. I think to sort of create this veneer of she's electable, Yeah, capable, competent.
You know, when you talk about Kamala and the effort to remake who she is, I mean short of a vulcan mind meld, you know, you just can't do it. She's left of everybody, including as I mentioned earlier in the show, Folkhannas, thank you Rush for that one, and and Bernie Sanders.
You know.
So, I don't know how they remake her, and I don't know how you get past the obvious problems that she was joined at the hip with Joe Biden for four years.
Yeah, it's very reminiscent of circa twenty sixteen, you know, the I'm with her celebrity mad dash didn't work for Hillary Clinton because and this is a woman who you know, had a similar cackle as Kamala did, but she was at least elected twice US senator. You know, she was Secretary of State and had run for president in two
thousand and eight before her party rejected her then. I mean, Kamala Harris in any ways, it's kind of like Obama, you know, just kind of came out of nowhere from a very liberal state, was a senator for a handful of years, and then got on a presidential ticket. It didn't work for Hillary, and I see this short of campaign to reshape Kamala Harris annoint her at the top of the ticket working even worse for Kamala Harris this time.
I mean, I think the former Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy just sort of said it plainly and succinctly. She's a California liberal. And that's kind of an understatement because wyn Kama Harris ran for president of twenty twenty, like her own state gave her a single digit support. Yeah, it's it's but what else are the Democrats going to do?
Right the benches? The bench is really short for them right now. For a whole lot of reasons. Let me ask you this first, and just be as succinct as you can be on these two questions, Jerome, because I want to get to something else as well. But do you have any faith even if you take over sampling to account because there are a few more Democrats than Republicans nationally, so polling tends to oversample Democrats to Republicans. I don't buy for one second that she's in a dead heat with Trump.
Our Washington Bureau chief Matthew Boyle, who actually resides in Saint Augustine, Florida, he makes the point, and I mean he studies President of Cross Times more than anybody I know that even if Trump is neck and neck, as you point it out with the polls, just take that, uh for what it is. That means the electoral College is close to a landslide because of the point that
you made about over sampling. But I mean, yeah, it's Kamala harrison't have a base and the Democratic Party has never really been as fractured as it is right now. Half of Hollywood hates the state of Israel. Uh, and Joe Biden has taxitly supported that war against the Moss You have you still have like the undeclared hundreds of thousands of them who didn't vote for Joe Biden. Kamala Harrison is the same way people's pocketbooks are still hurting.
She screwed up the borders.
She's still the ais are and doesn't even know what it means. She she's the she's the broadband for well, communities are too, and hasn't if anybody the Internet.
All right, my last question, you got to be thirty seconds or less on the answer. Do you believe as some are saying that her campaign has said don't laugh under any circumstances. And I'm being serious. I'm being serious about this. Now there's a rumor this.
Much more likely. I mean Ockham's razor says, yeah, that is she has been told, if she's been told anything at all, don't cackle, and I don't think she's going to be able to not do it.
Speaking of cackling, I'd sound like Muttley from the old cartoon show. That'll do for this particular month, the month of July. We'll be back Monday with day number eight of the twelve Days of Preston.
Thanks for joining us.