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The POLITICO Tech podcast is your download on the disruption that technology is bringing to politics and policy. New episodes Mondays and Thursdays.

Episodes

‘It does feel like a disappointment’: An AI expert blasts the Senate’s new policy roadmap

The Senate spent months consulting dozens of experts when crafting its new AI “policy roadmap.” One of them, computer science professor and former White House adviser Suresh Venkatasubramanian, is now blasting the final plan for being too favorable to the tech industry and failing to address risks like bias and deception. Venkatasubramanian joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly to explain where he thinks the roadmap comes up short. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 20, 202419 min

Sen. Todd Young delves into the new AI roadmap

The roll out this week of the Senate’s artificial intelligence policy roadmap was about as close to bipartisanship as Washington gets these days. But can it last? Sen. Todd Young (R-Ind.), one of the roadmap’s four co-authors, joins host Steven Overly to discuss what’s next as lawmakers look to pass actual legislation, and political divisions begin to emerge. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 17, 202416 min

Two unlikely states tried to rein in AI. Then came the tech lobbyists

Colorado and Connecticut attempted to become the first states to regulate artificial intelligence but faced significant pushback from the tech industry. In Connecticut, the governor then threatened to veto the legislation. And in Colorado, the governor is under pressure to do the same. Mallory Culhane, author of POLITICO's Morning Tech newsletter, joins host Steven Overly to discuss the fate of Colorado's AI legislation and whether other states will follow similar approaches to AI regulation. Le...

May 16, 202415 min

Chuck Schumer just fired the Senate’s AI starting gun

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s AI policy roadmap is out this morning. The bipartisan report, co-authored with Sens. Martin Heinrich, Todd Young and Mike Rounds, calls for big bucks for AI research, and legislation in areas like workforce training. It’s expected to kick off a flurry of legislative action in the Senate, even as the election rapidly approaches. Reggie Babin, an attorney and lobbyist at Akin, worked as Schumer’s chief counsel until 2022. He joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Ov...

May 15, 202424 min

What Biden’s ‘next chapter’ of AI looks like

When President Joe Biden talks about artificial intelligence, he’ll often refer to the technology’s “promise and peril.” Yet much of his AI agenda to date has focused on the latter. Now, the White House is shifting focus to the “aspirational” uses of AI -- a change in tone that could be complicated by the perils that remain. On POLITICO Tech, Office of Science and Technology Policy Director Arati Prabhakar tells Steven Overly about Biden’s plan to “start shaping the next chapter” of AI focused o...

May 14, 202416 min

Big dreams, small budget. NSF's director on funding AI research

President Biden’s signature CHIPS and Science Act promised the National Science Foundation a budget boost of $81 billion over five years. But so far, Congress hasn’t come through with the money. That has Sethuraman Panchanathan, the director of the NSF, persuading lawmakers to loosen the national purse strings, while in the meantime, cobbling together money from the NSF’s shrinking budget and the private sector to fund AI research projects. Steven Overly talked with "Panch" for today's episode o...

May 13, 202414 min

How the US beats China on AI

The relationship between Washington and the tech industry has gone through no shortage of ups and downs over the years, but things were all smiles earlier this week at an AI expo hosted by the Special Competitive Studies Project. The CEO of that group, Ylli Bajraktari, talked to host Steven Overly about the Washington-Silicon Valley divide and why collaboration between industry and government is the only way he sees the U.S. beating China on AI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone....

May 10, 202421 min

Van Jones and Arun Gupta on the new AI civilization

CNN contributor and Dream Machine founder Van Jones met NobleReach Foundation CEO Arun Gupta at a tech festival. It turned out they’re both AI optimists, and think all the doom and gloom about the technology belies its larger benefits. On a live taping of POLITICO Tech, they join host Steven Overly to make the case for more communities to embrace — not fear — AI and for tech workers to enter public service. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 09, 202426 min

How TikTok’s algorithm really handled the Israel-Gaza war

TikTok has long faced criticism for suspected ties to the Chinese government. But since the start of the war, U.S. officials have also accused the app of amplifying posts that are sympathetic to Hamas and damaging to Israel. But data from the app tells a more complex story. POLITICO reporter Mark Scott worked with Northeastern University researcher Laura Edelson to analyze some 350,000 TikTok posts about the war, and on today’s show, Mark explains their findings to host Steven Overly — and what ...

May 08, 202416 min

How AI will upend non-elite universities, according to Coursera’s CEO

Coursera CEO Jeff Maggioncalda says AI is transforming education -- both how it’s delivered and what people are studying. On today's Politico Tech, Jeff’s case to host Steven Overly for why higher education needs an AI overhaul, and how he uses AI to help decide Coursera’s business strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 07, 202417 min

What losing TikTok could mean for online culture

There’s a legal battle brewing between TikTok and the federal government. But how anxious are US companies about losing one of the newest and frankly most exciting social media outlets in years? Rachel Karten had that question, too. She’s a social media consultant for brands like Cava and West Elm, and author of a Substack called Link in Bio, a newsletter about the business of social media. She spoke with host Steven Overly to talk about what she's hearing from brands and what losing TikTok coul...

May 06, 202415 min

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Right now, there’s probably a political candidate in your inbox asking for donations. Online fundraising has taken off in recent election cycles, and it’s now how many Washington hopefuls raise big bucks. On POLITICO Tech, reporter Jessica Piper joins host Steven Overly to talk about how digital platforms have changed the fundraising game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 03, 202417 min

One-on-one with Anthropic cofounder Jack Clark

Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark says building a safe AI model — named Claude — will differentiate the company from its competitors. And he’s in Washington pushing for safety testing and product standards. Will that ultimately help established companies like his? He joined host Steven Overly to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

May 02, 202421 min

What TikTok’s Washington nemesis is targeting next

Jacob Helberg was influential in pushing for the law that forces the sale of TikTok. Now, he wants Congress to prepare for a future conflict with China, one that has artificial intelligence at the center. Helberg, who is a senior policy adviser at Palantir Technologies and sits on the congressional U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, joins host Steven Overly to talk about the next frontier in U.S. tech competition with China. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/a...

May 01, 202420 min

What worries consumer advocates about state AI bills

States are considering a slew of bills to regulate artificial intelligence, including whether companies must disclose that they’re using the technology to make decisions in areas like employment and housing. Consumer Reports policy analyst Grace Gedye joins POLITICO Tech to discuss loopholes that the advocacy group argues state lawmakers must close before passing new laws. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 30, 202415 min

The untold story of how computers forever changed election night

In 1952, TV news producers needed an edge on election night. And they found it in new "fearsome contraptions" called computers. On POLITICO Tech, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ira Chinoy joins host Steven Overly to talk about his new book, “Predicting the Winner: The Untold Story of Election Night 1952 and the Dawn of Computer Forecasting.” They go inside that pivotal election night, and what it tells us about political journalism and technology today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...

Apr 29, 202417 min

Inside the parties AI is crashing during Washington’s big weekend

Washington’s fascination with AI has permeated its social life — from salon dinners to embassy receptions to networking nights. That includes festivities surrounding this weekend’s White House Correspondents’ Dinner. On POLITICO Tech, media maven Tammy Haddad joins host Steven Overly to talk about her Washington AI Network and how AI is shaping D.C.’s social scene. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 26, 202422 min

How many chips does $29 billion buy?

Micron Technology is getting $6.14 billion from the Biden administration to build microchip facilities in the U.S., becoming the fourth and final maker of leading-edge semiconductors to get government subsidies. On POLITICO Tech, Michael Schmidt, the director of the Commerce Department’s CHIPS Program Office, breaks down the deals and explains what comes next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 25, 202415 min

Former FCC Chair Ajit Pai on net neutrality’s return — and why he hates it

The Federal Communications Commission will vote tomorrow to re-impose net neutrality, controversial regulations that require internet service providers to treat all websites equally. Ajit Pai is the former Republican FCC chair who took them away back in 2017. And he joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly to challenge Democrats’ reasons for bringing the rules back -- even as he says most Americans have moved on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 24, 202421 min

Montana's Attorney General on the state's battle to ban TikTok

All eyes are on the Senate this week, where lawmakers are taking up a bill that forces TikTok to find a new owner. Now, Congress can be an unpredictable place. But things have never looked worse for the popular app. So, what happens next? It seems clear that TikTok would take the U.S. government to court, likely arguing that forcing a sale, and potentially imposing a ban, violates the constitutional rights of TikTok’s investors and users. Right now, TikTok is locked in a lawsuit with the state o...

Apr 23, 202417 min

One-on-one with the UAE's AI minister

The United Arab Emirates has produced some of the world’s biggest open-source AI models. And that was before Microsoft put big money into one of its AI companies last week — part of the U.S. effort to pull the Gulf nation away from China’s influence. At an Atlantic Council event, the country’s AI minister, His Excellency Omar Al Olama, spoke with host Steven Overly about AI alliances, global rulemaking and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 22, 202425 min

Inside the Chinese embassy’s quiet lobbying on TikTok

Officials from the Chinese embassy have been making the rounds on Capitol Hill as U.S. lawmakers weigh a forced sale of the video-sharing app TikTok. Reporter Hailey Fuchs joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly to explain what happened inside the meetings and how they could complicate TikTok’s own lobbying efforts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 19, 202410 min

Ciao. Adios. Au revoir. Will AI squash European languages?

Our language is fundamental to our cultural identity. And many European countries worry artificial intelligence will erase those languages and the cultures that come with them. But could those fears really be code for falling behind in the AI race? POLITICO reporter Gian Volpicelli joins host Steven Overly to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 18, 202418 min

‘Godzilla vs. Kong: AI Edition’: Talking net neutrality with a former FCC chair

The Federal Communications Commission will vote next week to restore regulations that require internet service providers to treat websites equally, otherwise known as net neutrality. Tom Wheeler was the chair of the FCC the last time those rules were put in place. He joins POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly to talk about how artificial intelligence gives new life to this old policy battle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 17, 202419 min

The White House defends contentious foreign surveillance law

The future of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act now lies in the Senate, following a contentious path to reauthorization in the House last week. Behind the scenes, the Biden administration has been pressing both chambers to extend the law -- and successfully pushing back on some proposed reforms. On POLITICO Tech, National Security Council legal adviser Joshua Geltzer defends the need for government spy programs amid simmering global conflicts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit mega...

Apr 16, 202418 min

This tax day, how AI is changing up the IRS

Today, we’re talking taxes. Stanford law professor Dan Ho has been working with the IRS to figure out how machine learning and artificial intelligence can improve the agency -- including a study he led last year that found evidence of racial bias in its audits. On POLITICO Tech, host Steven Overly talks with Ho about using AI to root our human bias, and how the technology is changing up Tax Day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 15, 202417 min

The controversy around FISA, a key foreign surveillance law, explained

The House is expected to vote on a key foreign surveillance law set to expire next week. The fight over the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, has pit national security hawks who defend the government surveillance program against lawmakers who say it's been used to unlawfully spy on American citizens. Host Steven Overly unpacks the criticisms with Elizabeth Goitein, a former Capitol Hill attorney who now leads the Liberty and National Security Program at NYU’s Brennan Center for Jus...

Apr 12, 202415 min

‘Picture your MAGA auntie's Twitter account’: Why a Chinese disinformation group started imitating Americans

The Chinese disinformation network known as Spamouflage has never gotten much traction on social media. Then, a small number of accounts started pretending to be American. On POLITICO Tech, senior analyst Elise Thomas from the Institute for Strategic Dialogue explains why pro-Trump and anti-Biden tweets from a group with ties to the Chinese Communist Party may signal deeper concerns about 2024 election interference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 11, 202418 min

A skeptic's guide to the new data privacy bill

There’s a new data privacy bill floating around Capitol Hill this week -- backed by the chairs of two powerful committees. And at first glance, it seems to have a lot of potential. But POLITICO Tech host Steven Overly and privacy reporter Alfred Ng discuss the sticking points that could cause the legislation to stall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Apr 10, 202415 min

One critic's case for why artificial intelligence is actually dumb

Gary Marcus is a cognitive scientist and serial entrepreneur who is an AI critic, and not shy about it. He’s one of the tech experts pushing Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and others in Washington to pass sweeping and stringent legislation to rein in AI -- technology that he doesn’t actually think is very smart. Gary has written a piece for POLITICO magazine, out tomorrow, arguing what all should be included in a big AI bill. And he talked with Steven Overly to make his case. Learn more ab...

Apr 09, 202419 min