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Passle CMO Series Podcast

The must-listen podcast for professional services marketers, where we engage thought leaders from various realms of Professional Services Business Development and Marketing. Together, we delve into strategies for firms to foster authenticity, enhance effectiveness, and take advantage of the opportunities for growth available today.
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Episodes

Episode 153 - Karen Wilcox of Marketing Speaks on The Unique Roles of CMOs and BDMs in Program Rollouts

While CMOs shape the marketing strategy and brand alignment for new programs, Business Development Managers (BDMs) have a unique insight into what will drive success when it comes to rolling them out. In this CMO Series episode, James Barclay invites Karen Wilcox, President of Marketing Speaks, to discuss the crucial role of BDMs in launching new programs and how CMOs can best support them. Karen and James Cover: The role of a BDM in the successful rollout of a new program The degree of involvem...

Aug 20, 202417 minEp. 190

Episode 3 - CMO Series Digital Masterclass: How Thought Leadership Determines Digital Success

Welcome to Episode 3 of the CMO Series Digital Masterclass where we explore the best strategies from professional services marketers for building a world-class digital presence. Our latest research found that legal marketing priorities are changing with digital media and thought leadership rising to the top. Today, we're focusing on how thought leadership determines digital success and positions firms at the forefront of their clients' and prospects' minds. In this episode, we’ll dive into the c...

Aug 14, 202415 minEp. 189

Episode 152 - Clinton Gary of CREDO Consulting on Collaborative Growth: A Guide for CMOs and Managing Partners

Law firm leadership requires a collaborative effort across all functions. Collaboration between lawyers, teams and practices can be pivotal to the success of marketing and business development. In this episode of the CMO Series, Alistair Bone welcomes Clinton Gary to share his insights on how law firm CMOs and Managing Partners can effectively collaborate. With 25 years of experience as CMBDO in prominent law and Big 5 firms, Clinton is currently the Founder and Managing Partner of CREDO Consult...

Aug 13, 202445 minEp. 188

Episode 2 - CMO Series Digital Masterclass: Placing Thought Leadership At The Heart Of Your Online Brand

Welcome to Episode 2 of the CMO Series Digital Masterclass. Today, we’ll explore how thought leadership can transform your firm’s online brand. We’ve curated top digital insights from our CMO Series Podcast - links to the full episodes are listed below. Join us as we delve into essential tools and strategies for professional services marketers, revealing why thought leadership is becoming central to digital success. We'll share success stories from industry leaders who have made their firm's exp...

Aug 08, 202413 minEp. 186

Episode 151 - Tim Mullane of Wilson Elser on How to Align Budgets with Your Firm’s Growth Strategy

Law firm budgets are under increasing scrutiny as firms face pressure to maximize efficiency, adapt to changing market conditions, and deliver more value to clients. For CMOs, understanding and aligning the marketing budget with the firm's broader strategic goals is critical. A well-aligned budget ensures that marketing efforts directly support the firm’s growth objectives, enhance client engagement, and improve ROI for marketing activities. In this episode of the CMO Series Podcast, Alistair Bo...

Aug 07, 202440 minEp. 187

Introducing CMO Series Digital Masterclass: Elevating Your Firm's Digital Presence

Welcome to the CMO Series Digital Masterclass, an exciting new sub-series of the CMO Series Podcast. This masterclass is designed to help professional services marketers build world-class digital platforms that enhance their firm's online presence and position them as thought leaders. The CMO Series Digital Masterclass is inspired by Passle’s latest research and the pressing needs of today’s marketing leaders. The goal is to provide actionable insights and best practices for developing robust on...

Aug 06, 20248 minEp. 185

Episode 150 - Lee Grunnell of Womble Bond Dickinson on The Importance Of Advertising in Professional Services

In the realm of B2B professional services, advertising is frequently one of the least utilized marketing tools. Earlier this year, Thompson Reuters published their "State of Global Legal Marketing & BD" report, revealing that professional services marketers rated advertising as the least effective marketing tactic, behind PR, social media, and client education. In this episode of the CMO Series Podcast, Lee Grunnell, CMO at Womble Bond Dickinson joins Charles Cousins to discuss the importanc...

Jul 30, 202426 minEp. 184

Episode 149 - Paul Askew of Withersworldwide on Why Legal Marketing Needs to Get Personal

Authentic, human-centred stories have long been a staple in B2C marketing, but they’re much less common in the world of professional services. As digital media rises, the fast-paced nature of the media landscape and decreasing attention spans mean marketers need to put in extra effort to make a substantial impact. In this episode of the CMO Series, Charles Cousins welcomes Paul Askew, the Global Strategic Campaigns Manager at Withersworldwide. Paul discusses the power of storytelling in professi...

Jul 23, 202437 minEp. 183

Episode 148 - Elizabeth Anscombe of Nardello & Co. on Building Trust in Confidential Services

Marketing in confidential services comes with distinct challenges and requires a strategic approach to establish and sustain trust. In this episode of the Passle CMO Series Podcast, Cam Dobinson explores these intricacies with Elizabeth Anscombe, Chief Business Development & Marketing Officer at Nardello & Co. Lizzie offers her insights on how Nardello & Co. informs its audience about its highly specialized services, the significance of maintaining a client-focused approach despite c...

Jul 16, 202415 minEp. 182

CMO Series Podcast Special - CMO Series Live NYC: The Highlights

In this special edition of the CMO Series Podcast, Natasha Sandamas, Events Marketing Manager, joins the series to reflect on Passle’s first Stateside CMO Series Live event which took place in New York City in June. Delving into the highlights from the sessions, we hear from an incredible lineup of speakers including Chief Marketing Officers, Chief Operating Officers and General Counsels from the world’s top firms. They joined the day to share their unique perspectives on everything from how to ...

Jul 09, 202441 minEp. 181

Episode 147 - Phill McGowan of Reed Smith on Strategic Communications: The Greatest Untapped Potential in Legal BD?

As the landscape of legal services evolves, so does the significance of effective communication strategies. Today, Eugene McCormick is lucky to welcome Phill McGowan, Global Director of Marketing and Communications at Reed Smith to the CMO Series Podcast to share his insights on the biggest opportunities for legal communications professionals today and reveal his strategies for driving business growth. Phill joins the series to delve into his background in newspapers and journalism, the evolutio...

Jul 03, 202431 minEp. 180

CMO Series REPRESENTS Jessica Caggiano - From Roots to Rights: Lessons from a Labor Attorney

Labor attorneys are essential in managing the intricacies of union law, protecting workers' rights, and promoting fair and just labor practices. Carving out a career to represent those without a voice takes true determination and passion. On this episode of CMO Series REPRESENTS, Julia Howard is lucky to welcome Jessica Caggiano, Partner at Willig, Williams & Davidson who has done just that. Jessica joins the series to uncover the influences that sparked her journey, and the insights that ha...

Jun 24, 202418 minEp. 179

Episode 146 - Ralph Allen of Kelley Drye & Warren on Driving Profitability: The Intersection of Operations & BD

Fresh from the COO panel at CMO Series Live in New York, Ralph Allen, Chief Operating Officer of Kelley Drye & Warren, joins the CMO Series Podcast to share his insights on strategically aligning law firm operations with business development to drive profitability. In this episode, Ralph sits down with Ed Lovatt to delve into the crucial intersection of operations and business development. They discuss strategic decision-making, navigating market competition, fostering client relationships, ...

Jun 18, 202442 minEp. 178

Episode 145 - John Neidecker of Norris McLaughlin on The Evolving Role Of Thought Leadership In Legal Marketing

The role of thought leadership in legal marketing is changing. Traditional tactics like rankings and sponsorships are no longer top priorities. The rise of digital is enabling smaller firms to compete more effectively and measure the impact of their marketing. Today on the CMO Series, Charles Cousins welcomes John Neidecker, Director of Business Development and Marketing at Norris McLaughlin, to reflect on the past quarter-century in the profession, and explore the pivotal role of thought leader...

Jun 11, 202417 minEp. 177

Episode 144 - Tracey Whyte of Piper Alderman on Getting the Most Out of AI in a Lean Marketing & BD Team

The impact of AI in legal marketing and business development is still relatively unknown. While we hear professionals are adopting AI to achieve impressive results, we rarely see examples of successful outputs. On this episode of the CMO Series, Tracey Whyte, Head of Business Development and Marketing at Piper Alderman, is joining Charles Cousins to share some of the practical applications of AI she has been driving at the firm and the challenges she's overcome on that journey. Tracey and Charle...

Jun 06, 202423 minEp. 176

Episode 143 - Nick Andrews of Knight Frank on The Changing Nature of Building Trust in Professional Services Marketing

In this episode of the CMO Series podcast, we explore the evolving dynamics of client relationships within professional services. Join us as Cam Dobinson chats with Nick Andrews, Partner and Head of UK Commercial Marketing at Knight Frank, about the profound changes in relationship-building strategies post-COVID. Nick shares his insights on the importance of chemistry and trust, the impact of hybrid working, and how firms can effectively build and maintain strong client relationships in the mode...

May 29, 202414 minEp. 175

CMO Series REPRESENTS - Empowered but Exhausted: A Sneak Preview of Empowered Women Event 2024 with Susan Freeman

In our International Women’s Day episodes, we often heard, “women can have it all, just not all at once.” This sentiment highlights the ongoing struggle women face balancing workplace empowerment with significant responsibilities outside of work. Today on CMO Series REPRESENTS, Alistair Bone welcomes Susan Freeman, the Stevie® Award-winning CEO and Founder of Conscious Inclusion Company, and CEO of Mean Business, to discuss these challenges and give us a sneak peek of the upcoming Empowered Wome...

May 22, 202442 minEp. 174

Episode 142 - Sivan Galinsky of BFKN on Crafting an Award-Winning Website in a Mid-Size Firm

Building a digital presence that meets client expectations and exceeds them while staying within the confines of budget and resources is an intricate art. On this episode of the CMO Series Podcast, Charles Cousins sits down with Sivan Koenig Galinsky, the Chief Marketing Officer at Barack Ferrazzano Kirschbaum & Nagelberg LLP (BFKN), to hear her insights, from resourcing to stakeholder management, on delivering a successful law firm website in a mid-size firm. Sivan and Charles discuss: What...

May 21, 202429 minEp. 173

Episode 141 - Brad Vynalek & Jennifer Rupkey of Quarles on Harmonizing Firm Leadership and BD

Developing a joined-up approach to legal business development is essential for any firm. On this episode of the CMO Series, Brad Vynalek, Firm President and Executive Committee member, and Jennifer Rupkey, the Director of Business Development at Quarles & Brady LLP, join Ed Lovatt to shed light on the critical nexus between firm leadership and business development. Together, they illustrate the transformative impact of their collaborative approach, emphasizing its pivotal role in driving ove...

May 14, 202434 minEp. 172

Episode 140 - Brenton Anderson of Dentons on Value Led BD, the Biggest Missed Opportunity for Professional Services?

“Delivering value” is a core talking point for all legal marketers, but how much value are firms delivering in their marketing and BD efforts and how can they ensure each client interaction delivers on that promise of value? Today, Cam Dobinson welcomes Brenton Anderson, Director of Marketing and Business Development at Dentons Australia, to the CMO Series Podcast to dive into what might be the biggest missed opportunity for professional services firms. Brenton and Cam discuss: Why value-led bus...

May 07, 202428 minEp. 171

CMO Series Podcast LIVE - Erin Stone Dimry on Positioning Your Firm as the Go-To Choice

Earlier this month, Alistair Bone joined Erin Stone Dimry, Chief Marketing & Business Development Officer at DLA Piper, on stage at the Legal Marketing Association’s Annual Conference in San Diego. We’re excited to bring you that conversation in this special episode of the CMO Series Podcast recorded in front of a live audience. Drawing on our 2023 General Counsel research , Erin and Alistair delve into how marketing teams can align their activities with client expectations. Erin shares the ...

Apr 30, 202445 minEp. 169

Episode 139 - Gina Connell of B P Collins on How to Bring Your Firm on the AI Journey

In today's professional services marketing landscape, AI is the hottest topic, leaving many marketers pressured to keep pace with the rapid advancements in their firms' AI strategies. In this episode of the Passle CMO Series Podcast, Cam Dobinson has the privilege of hosting Gina Connell, Chief Marketing Officer at B P Collins, to offer a practical look at navigating the AI journey within a firm. Join us as we delve into how Gina spearheaded the firm's AI policy, offering insights on collaborati...

Apr 23, 202421 minEp. 168

Episode 138 - Vicky Hanks of Blake Morgan on Building an Effective Employee Brand

From employee engagement to recruitment and retention, there are many benefits to building a successful employee brand. On this week’s episode of the CMO Series, Vicky Hanks, Head of Marketing at Blake Morgan joins Will Eke to share the key projects she’s delivered to enhance the employee brand across the firm and the importance of effective internal communications. Vicky and Will discuss: The moment in Vicky’s career journey she realised the importance of effective internal communications and e...

Apr 17, 202424 minEp. 167

CMO Series REPRESENTS - Empathy in Action: Kristen Gibbons Feden’s Journey to Justice

Dubbed by The New York Times as “The Prosecutor Who Stared Down Bill Cosby,” and internationally recognized as a leading litigator in the #MeToo Movement, on this very special live recording of the CMO Series REPRESENTS Podcast, Yasmin Zand welcomes Kristen Gibbons Feden, Shareholder at Anapol Weiss. This special episode recorded at the #FollowFriday Conference on International Women’s Day delves into Kristen’s passion for advocating for abuse and trauma survivors and why she’s focused on harnes...

Apr 09, 202427 minEp. 166

Episode 137 - Deborah Farone on Why BD Coaching is Essential for Women

In today's competitive landscape, fostering diversity, equity, and inclusion isn't just a moral imperative — it's a strategic advantage. Fresh off the back of our International Women’s Day episodes released on CMO REPRESENTS series, today, we’re shining a spotlight on the crucial importance of BD coaching for women. Our guest, Deborah Farone, Founder of Farone Advisors, joins Will Eke on the Passle CMO Series Podcast to share her extensive expertise as we discuss the unique challenges women face...

Apr 03, 202422 minEp. 165

Episode 136 - Sheenika Gandhi of Greenberg Glusker on Reimagining Associate Training For BD Success

Training and developing the next generation of lawyers is a key driver for a firm’s long-term success. Investing in new talent is often overlooked, but today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Sheenika Gandhi, Chief Marketing Officer at Greenberg Glusker, to understand how she is reimagining business development training, for the future success of their associates and the firm. Sheenika and Ali discuss: Sheenika’s career journey and how she came to be a Chief Marketing Officer How she bec...

Mar 28, 202434 minEp. 164

Episode 135 - Vicky Cunningham of Efficio Consulting on Aligning Content with the Client Journey

Mapping the clients’ buying journey is key to successfully aligning content to meet their needs. Someone with extensive experience across multiple industries in doing just that is Vicky Cunningham, Marketing Director at Efficio Consulting. Vicky joins the CMO Series Podcast today to discuss her approach to aligning content strategy with the client buying journey to drive business growth. Vicky and Will discuss: The importance of mapping the client buying journey and aligning this with content st...

Mar 19, 202431 minEp. 163

Episode 134 - Matt Dixon of DCM Insights on What It Takes To Be A Rainmaker in Today’s Market

The landscape for professional services business development is changing. Clients are less loyal to firms and individual fee earners, and strong relationships are no longer enough to guarantee repeat business. These are just some of the insights that have recently come out of research conducted by DCM Insights, published in the Harvard Business Review. Today, on this special episode of the CMO Series Podcast, Will Eke welcomes founding partner of DCM Insights, Matthew Dixon, to discuss the highl...

Mar 12, 202451 minEp. 162

CMO Series REPRESENTS - Inspiring Inclusion: Creating a Culture of Action and Accountability

This year we’re celebrating International Women’s Day by shining a light on the experiences of incredible women across the industry. In this second installment of Inspiring Inclusion, we uncover the personal stories of our guests and the inspirational people who have influenced their journeys. From creating safe spaces to the power of putting words into action, this incredible lineup share their insights and perspectives on the role of firms and their leaders in inspiring inclusion. We’re so gra...

Mar 08, 202432 minEp. 161

CMO Series REPRESENTS - Inspiring Inclusion: Promoting a Culture of Recognition from the Top

To celebrate Women’s History Month and International Women’s Day 2024, we invite you to join us as we talk with marketing and business development leaders from the world’s best law and professional services firms. This special episode of CMO Series REPRESENTS shines a light on leaders as they share their personal stories, best practices and the inspirational people who have influenced their career journeys and inspired inclusion in their firms. Join us for part one of this special series, as we ...

Mar 06, 202438 minEp. 160
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