Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)

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bet with Draft Kings. The crown is yours today is Monday, August 12th. And I know we want to talk about football, but we also have to talk about the Olympics and our team being so awesome. That came being incredible. Before the record, I want to talk about football. I do. But yeah, let's talk. Let's lead it off with with that was I was thinking about it's like should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks. No, let's

let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that. And I said the two of us because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great. Well, I would say there I would say all three of us have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks if you include Joe Milton. That's true. But we should talk about the Olympics in that USA game because it was fucking awesome. Steph Curry is the man. He saved America. That was one of the most fun times I've had watching basketball. And Steph

Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games. He was 17 for 26 from 360 points in the last two games. And those it was a three point game with 258 left. And Steph was like, fuck it. I'm just going to hit every shot and he had four threes. And it was I I yelped on that last one. Yeah, people were screaming. Yeah, it was it was insane. And if you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you've had a chance to go back and I always love to do that.

Yes. In college football season where he hear like the home announcing team like like narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, this is impossible. What's happening? They kept calling them the devil Curry. Yes. The devil Curry just ended their dreams. And there were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. At one point, he he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was

like relatively open as far as KD goes. And he just said, fuck it. I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry because Steph can't miss right now. Shoot it over two guys. Kevin Durant and he said it was a bad shot. Well, Kevin Durant and LeBron were wide open for the three. Yeah. And under no circumstance, do you ever not give the ball to Kevin Durant or LeBron at the end of a game unless your name is Steph Curry? And it somehow went in, but it is just so much fucking fun

to get to root for Steph Curry. I get it. I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years. I get it. I understand it. Steph Curry, if he, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Bright. It was it was so good and so incredible. Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that. He said afterwards before every shot you take,

you think it's going in. All I saw was this is talking about the last shot. All I saw was the rim. I didn't see who was in front of me. I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. Yeah. That's how good he is. Steph Curry is so good that he, he impresses Steph Curry. Yeah. They were really good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared. Yeah. They cared very deeply. Oh, dude. They cared. Like if any one of them told

you like, Oh, you know, I just wanted to go over there and have fun. Didn't matter if I played, didn't matter if they got me in the game. Didn't matter if I was in the rotation. They're lying. They wanted to be in there. They wanted to be playing. They wanted to do this. I guess for the country, which is awesome to see because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition. We're going to crush the world. The days of just showing

up and and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice and play as a team if we want to win. So to get a gold in that way was it was awesome. It was awesome. They care. Even their family cares. Yeah. To the point of like complaining. Publicly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It care a lot. And they flew in Dremon. Yeah. Which is a great move to do. Dremon flew in just to troll go bear. He he said he tweet. He's like, what should I say?

I'm sitting right behind it. But it was it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD. It was LeBron. It was Steph. Those are the three guys. Devin Booker was phenomenal. By the way, like he was the unsung hero. He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. And like the three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe

not going to win another NBA title. But it was it was just awesome to watch and they in LeBron was amazing and KD was amazing. And Steph was just going off. Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was, but it was good. The Anthony Davis is in there. I think he had four blocks. It's starting center. We he had trouble defending against Wimby who everybody else, you know, also has that problem defending against Wimby. The starting center looks slow. He

looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit. Who is our starting center? I'm not sure. A bam, right? Bam. No, no, it wasn't bam. Joel Mb. Oh, thank you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers. And it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time. Come on, Joe. I, what the fuck, Joe? I knew it was not going well for him. Beed when Max tweeted halfway through the

game. He's like, everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him. So true. Yeah, he would, he was, he wanted to go back in time. I served me a game. I also love the way that Joel and B received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing this shit out of them because he chose to go with the US into France. And he was just like, yeah, give it to me. I mean, he's a Philly guy. Yeah,

you think that bothers him? France cannot boo out boo. Joel and B. Yeah, he had a quote going into it. He was like, yeah, France is probably going to boo me. And I'm just going to tell him to suck it. Yeah, he's also very hit with the DS. Yeah. Like he, there's, there's one guy who can't, like, you can't boo, you can't boo, Joel and beat out of the building. He plays in Philadelphia. He also, watching the like the clips of everyone post game and then the next day, just how hung over,

they all were. Actually, we have someone who basically won the US gold right here. Henry Lockwood looked like he parted with them, but Joel and B doesn't drink. So he was like, like, just side eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport. Yeah. And it was just like, everyone had glasses on, looked like shit. And Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight. Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem. Yeah, it was, get out of his

own head. It was awesome. So now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot. Tyree's Hal Burton, who handled it in a very funny way, saying when you get an A and you didn't know the work, that's kind of the way you have to handle it. Because it's still, you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team. And you did contribute in the fact that, you know, there were scrimmages and all the the weeks leading up to it. You got to take pride in that shit. Yeah,

you got to take pride no matter what level basketball player you're at. If you help the team, that's first and foremost, right? And then Hank. Yeah. How do we feel? I mean, Jason Tim did get into the final, felt like he got bullied bullied minutes. He got bullied? He got bullied. He got bullied minutes. Curb got bullied into putting him in the game. Interesting. Would you not agree? I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem. Well, there's

eight less minutes. Right, but you could still. That's, are talking metric system. The math. That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game. Listen, the resume, you know, no one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics at the end of the day. When you look back at his career, he's gonna have, you know, two gold medals, at least. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said he would play in the 22. I mean, I do feel bad for Jason

Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word. No. His mom did, fans did. He didn't like that. That's one of those situations where it gets put on him that, he's upset and he probably was upset because everyone wants to play. But he wasn't upset to, he wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything. Other people were saying things. And then it gets attributed to him, right, which is not fit. But if you watch the games, the lineup

that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior. Yeah, we were dominating with that lineup. They were really barely played. Our closing lineup was very good. Yeah. Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end. And it was just fun. It was fun to watch. Steph Curry is the fucking man. Yeah, boo dunked on the baron. That was great. Yeah, boo did. He might have dunked his way back in the league and skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like, well, Steph Curry won the MVP,

right? Yeah. He said LeBron did win the MVP. And yes, skip was like, this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy. Just perfect spin zone. How do you want to fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold? Yeah. And LeBron was, I mean, he got a triple double against Serbia and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for last two games. He closed it out at the end of the last two games. And we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him. And we probably wouldn't have

beaten France without just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron, he did not lead the team in points per game. Steph did, but it was like barely. It was like he had the team in rebounds and rebounds and assists. Yeah. And almost led the team in points. Like you could give it to any one of those guys. But I love the fact that skip he's going to find his angle. Yeah, skip fails. By the way, it doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's

just doing this for the love of the game. Yeah. And it would have been if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same video being like LeBron didn't get the MVP. And this was his team. Yeah. He's a limp. He's also shout out Serbia. Probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the bronze medal game went straight to the bar and then came back for the medal ceremony. And they were shit housed. And like, like, Yokech looked like he was going to puke at one point. Because

guys were like kind of like grabbing him. And then also there's a club. Yokech is already at the race track. Yeah, of course. So Yokech probably spent his entire Olympics watching Dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much. That that looked like like they did it perfectly

for I would much rather this is why the debate like would you rather win bronze or silver. I'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying I was so close. I would like to win bronze if I lost to the gold medal winner. Yeah, but still like they had the best time yesterday. France didn't. France looked, you know, in front of the home crowd. They lose

and then all the Serbia show up. Drunk as fuck. There's also the stat continues that there's only three team three countries that have won a gold medal outside of the US and men's basketball and two of those two of those three countries do not exist. So it was not a fun stat. What countries were that it's Argentina? Was that one? Argentina does exist. Yeah. And then Soviet Union. Yeah. Yugoslavia. Okay. Yeah. If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem. They'd be a real

problem. Because they would they should have Yokech and Luca. They should be allowed to compete. It would be fun. Yeah. But those so so the only country that still exists that is one of gold other than US's Argentina and Soviet Union would have Kp. Yeah. True. Yeah. Yeah. There was no Russian these Olympics, right? For the most part. I guess not. Yeah. And we once asterix. We won the gold or we won the Olympics. We did. Yeah. Congratulations. We did it. We did it. We tied with China

for most golds and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us. Is it silver's? Is silver's and bronzes? Oh, we won together. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We did it, guys. Also, we were very close to not winning the total golds. And I just wanted to shout out. I don't know who this person is. Iman Kyliffe. That person stopped China from getting one extra gold. Because if I'm okay. Now what what division would they compete? This was women's box of women's box.

Okay. The yeah. Shout out to her. Yeah. So she stopped. She she beat a Chinese woman in the Walter Wait Championship. She's my favorite woman in the world. That's a funny wrinkle. Let's go. USA USA USA. All of the United States was written for whoever that boxer that you said. Yes. So that's all getting behind it. It's it's really good that we that we won. Yeah. The metal count. I love that. I love just being able to say like fuck you to the rest of the world. We still got it.

I don't care. Well, what about the horses? Do we know where the horses were from? No, I don't know. I don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place. Because I feel like the the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals at the equestrian events. Yeah. We did have an awesome. I forget her name. Shit. What's her name? The the female wrestler that suplexed the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped on her head. Basically broke her

neck in the finals. They had to stop her. Or US. Yeah. It was an awesome move. I forget who it was. Hell yeah. Shout out to her because she's she's a fucking host. Also, if we're going to try to figure out how to to make sure that we win the golds outright in L.A. Well, first of all, I didn't even realize that you get to the host country gets to add a sport. Yep. That's how break dancing came in. Shout out to Reagan. Yeah. Reagan, the goat, took the world by storm. We watched some of the the

breaking on Friday here in the office. I was trying to live bet on it. I had no idea how the point system worked. But Reagan was she's she's a hero. She's yeah. She's amazing. She was doing the kangaroo op. She was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show. Yeah. She's the rest of the break dancers had to be very upset at her. They have to watch some of the others. And they were incredible. Yeah. Like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time. And then

Reagan was just doing a lane, you know, Venice dance. She's a she's a professor. And one of the things that she teaches is break dancing. I would drop her class if I were in it. But she basically found a way to get a free trip to France and get a team uniform. Yeah. Credits are yeah. And she was wearing like an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing like the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome. I was struggling to figure out what the rules were with

breaking. I didn't know if there was like a TKO. If you serve somebody so hard, they just stop the fight. Yeah. That's too much. That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt. Like battle rap. Like battle rap should be in the elegant being an Olympian would be sick. I think it might be more of a sport than than some of the sports that we saw. Yeah. That's what I was sporting curling. I think we're a re adding football. Is that what it is being like football baseball. Oh,

is baseball our sport? Baseball should be back anyways. We might not win that. We might not win that. We we should win football. But oh, we definitely remember our team stinks. No, but they we we're going to benefit. Joe Burrow. Yeah. Yeah. Said he wants to do it. Yeah. The I was looking at it. If we want to figure out a way to win it outright. China. Now I'm not saying that they, you know, it's a Mickey Mouse gold half of a title, whatever you want to call it. They won five

ping pong events and eight diving events. Seems a little how are there five ping pong events? I have no idea, but they want them all because there should be at the max. There should be four, right? I think there's women's men's doubles women's doubles mix mixed doubles. Mix doubles. They swept it. Mm. They swept the board. I don't like I didn't know there was eight diving's. That's too many diving swept the board on that. There's yeah, there's too many of the niche ones. There should be

maximum four medals in a table tennis or a ball. Now, maybe we got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000. That's what the US gives and a job at home deep. Other country is no, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes they get their picture on a whiti's box. Congratulations. Here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Yeah. Enjoy Hong Kong and Singapore. They do the highest payouts. Hong Kong gives $768,000

to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000. And then the Philippines gives a house a lot, a two bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies. That's said and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken. There's they should just do the armageddon. If you win a gold medal for US, you never pay taxes. No, don't pay taxes. And also you get you get to commit one felony. Sure. Again, I shall

pay taxes, not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslaughter. Yeah. I mean, Caitlin Jenner would having ever probably still be walking amongst us. Yeah, having everyone be like, hey, I don't have to pay taxes again. That would be the greatest she is still walking. Well, at least she's not driving driving. Yeah, driving is her issue. Indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant. Oh, Max. Yeah, Max, you need to get a passport.

Yep. We got to step our shit up. And in South Korea, you get pensions. So you get like the lump sum and then you get money every single year for this year life. Yeah. Instead, we have no ailes who's winning. He's he might be hater of the year. He's got to do that as a takey hater of the year because he was the one who before the Olympics said you don't win a world championship. If you're win the NBA championship, that's not the world. Never was like, that's kind of weird.

Whatever. Hank, did you write that down? Take these take these guys right down. What was it? I hate her the year. Who? Who? No, a lot of us. Okay, you got it. You're right. It's going on. You did say that you did say this year, you're going to be on top of it. Max, I need to be on top of it. Did I? No, I absolutely not mean. No, no, no. So are you giving away? I can be on top of it. I can take I can take this responsibility.

Take the leading already did. All right. I could be on me. This could be on me. I told Max to write it down and then Max for some reason turn his mic on to tell Hank, but we're me and him are in charge. Hey, let's support Max. I support Max. No, that's on me. That's on me. Will you be the backup? Yeah. Okay. Well, he'll be the third. I should name some Max to write that down. Yeah, I tried that. Yeah, I'll write that down. I'll write that down. I feel like Hank could show some

strong competition and hit her the year. So yeah, for sure. It's an award that I guarantee you he'll be nominated. Yeah. But no, I was I came out that he was upset because Adidas when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah. And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA finals. So I actually, I understand no, I was basically like, I need to get my name out there. So be hated the year and people will talk about me.

Um, I think he knows what he's doing. And I, I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that like running track every four years is important is playing in the NBA. He does. He does. Okay. So maybe he's this is this is what I love about no allows. I think it all comes naturally to him. Okay. He definitely got cut playing basketball, right? Like he's got some very deep

seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah. And he's like, why, why is track not the number one sport in America? He was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. And every time he's on a fast break, he dribbled off his foot. Yeah. No, no, Liles, a little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team? That would get you some nice publicity. People would talk about it. People like, wow, could you imagine no Liles running down running running a

go route now? You probably can't catch because you're this upset about Anthony Edwards, who's one of the best NBA players. But we'll deal with that later. Yeah. He beat he would be sick on the chiefs like football, like football. He probably he there's no I know Liles definitely if you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it. No, that's the vibe I'm getting from him, his anger towards the NBA. I feel like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah. Yeah. And he he also

overcame COVID to get the hater going. Mm-hmm. I like that. Mm-hmm. It was just better and then he was just like, now I got my hater back. I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay. Swimming. Yeah. Male swimming in America. Oh, yeah. The French guy kicked our ass. French guy kicked our ass. Katie Ladecki shot out to her. I think she's like tied for the the lead in gold medals. Shout out all our women. Yeah. I think they dominated. They dominated.

Our men are men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men? Is it fellas? Is it gay to swim? Well, it might need to make a comeback. Is it actually think you could? I think he probably do better than whatever these jackasses were. Yeah. But we only got one gold medal and male swimming. I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. Do we like, I know Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Well, it was probably. No, probably. Wasn't Caleb Dressel, the big

story was that he was watching House of Dragon 2 late one night. Yeah. So maybe we just got to take away TVs. Yeah. If we put our best players or best athletes into swimming, we would dominate. Yeah. We don't. I had fun. I listen, Olympics were fun. Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there. Yeah. It was good. It was good to have on in these desperate weeks

that we just need to get through training camp. And the basketball was awesome. Basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it. Like that was a dramatic game. Yeah. And I'm happy we won. I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random. Like anybody from the United States could get put on any team. Yeah. And we have to compete just average people from around the world competing against

other average people in random sports that they've never practiced. Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a, a, a, a barometer to show like if you're just like, Hey, here's the 100 meter dash have just a random like 35 year old dude running it. Yeah. We can be like, Oh, that's me. Yeah. I suck. I lost by seven seconds. I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards. Yeah.

So I think most people if you tried to do that motion, you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat. Yeah. Pove hall. It was just go straight sideways. I mean, all these, yeah, we, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see it because it would we would quickly realize how much better they are. Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of viewers like that. That doesn't seem

that hard. There's also they all are very hard. There should be eating in the Olympics too. Yeah, Joey Chessler Joey, we should add in for that for 2028. That would a rock. That's dog eating. That would a rock. Um, you want to talk about football? Yeah. That was a fun week in a football. It was a great week. It's back. It's pretty season. I lasted as long as I lasted longer than I ever could ever. Oh, I didn't even try. Yeah, I tried. I, I were in a half. I lasted. I didn't try. I saw all in the

Olympics. Yeah. So big cat. Congratulations. Congratulations to you as well. How many, uh, how many Super Bowls do you think you're going to get? Listen, I don't want to talk about Super Bowls. I just want to talk about the, the realization that I had. And, and this is going to get clipped and people are going to say I'm stupid and I'm doing it all over again. Um, watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world forever thinking that Mitch

Shabisky and Justin Fields were the guys because it looks so different. Yeah. And I know it's preseason. I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. Like he's, he's, he's confident, poised, like reading the defense. It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot. And yeah, I lasted an hour and a half and then I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back. Yeah. As you should because my own experience watching Jaden on, uh, on Saturday. That one

throwy tad. Oh, so sick. And then big cat. When I found out that he audible into that play. Sure. Oh my God. I, I covered my entire basement. Yeah. I got stalactite stripping from the ceiling now. Gross. I've never, I don't want to say never. He reminds me of RG3 in the RG3 good times. It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback that for longer than like 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy. This is going to know this is the guy. But big cat,

he's so, I know I agree. I agree. Ball is so good. He's so fast. I agree. It's just, and he looks good in the uniform. It's awesome. I mean, you said RG3. I, the, the screen dump off the kill Williams made when a guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play. Yeah. That looked like patch scrubs. Yeah. We got, I don't, I, but I'm not, I'm not, these are just, we should have prefaced this segment with this is a safe space. We're just talking to guys having fun talking. None

of this is we're not putting this on you. Anyone, this is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we saw. Yeah. And what in a preseason game would I saw sickos would I saw in preseason week one preseason week one week one. It was week two for the Bears with kill Williams and play week one. The excitement of having a team that that has a quarterback. It's like we're, we're fans of different sports this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different. Deep,

Sundays are different this year. Like being like third and long Sunday's week. Maybe still get this. Yeah. Hank, did you feel the same way about Joe Milton? Yeah. I actually, I made a list. I made a ranking. Oh, should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure. Number one, I had Joe Milton. Yep. Because Joe Milton is fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah. The boys fired up. Yeah. Boys on the show. I also wanted to be watching those on what we were doing coach Doug. So I pretty much

watched the whole game. And you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines like team, team was rallying already. QB controversy. Team was rallying behind them. We'll see. I think so. And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would this be, this would be so mean though. If Joe Milton did to Bailey's happy with Bailey's happy did to Mac Jones.

Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make four QBs three spots. Yeah. This segment is also Milton tough for pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah. No, I know that guy. How did that guy last until the sixth round? That guy should have been top 10. Patriots get a six round steal. Yeah. Three repeats itself. Yeah. Number two, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair. I wanted to be fair. Joe Milton. Obviously number one Caleb, Jaden,

number two, JJ, Ayrington number three. JJ Ayrington. No, sorry, sorry. JJ McCarthy. McCarthy. Yeah. Viking. Number three. Second defense. Second defense. Where did Ayrington come from? I don't know. There's a player named JJ Ayrington. Lava Ayrington. Number four, Bonyx. Bonyx look good. This might be the season. Bonyx. Bonyx. All together. I feel like he's JJ Ayrington was a running back for for Cal. Yeah. Bonyx, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year.

I think he's going to be good. Yeah. Five Spencer Rattler. Spencer look good. He plays four. He plays for an NFL team, but I looked up his stats and they were good. Number six, Michael Penex. And then number seven, I Drake May. It's a pretty good class. And sets in Bennett. Technically a rookie kind of kind of. Yeah, because he set out. He bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception. Game winning drive. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Richardson also kind

of a rookie kind of. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun watching football. I'm very excited. I'm going to let myself. I really did. I tried so hard. PFT. I was like, I'm not going to be. I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy. And I was like, I was basically the meme, the kid in class, like holding everything in. I was just for an hour. I was watching the Bears. And I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy shit. Like, this has got to be different. I got to

act differently. And then I just lost it and just busted everywhere. He, he looked really good. He looked very good. So did Jaden. I'll tell you what, if I was going to be the worst clip ever. I don't care. I'm ready. Make no mistake. I'm ready to be heard again. I am. I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while. Mark outfultures was so good in summer league. Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point. What the fuck? It's a good point.

I'm just saying. What the fuck? That's a fair point. Max, I'm not, I want to say I am not ready to get heard again. Oh, I am. I am not. I've been hurt too many times. Too recently. I feel like if we played the, I am not ready to get hurt. Yes. That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. Exactly. But I just told you Hank, I watched it. I want to not just deny it. I knew Mitch wasn't a, you know, I'm not ready to get hurt again. I'm not mentally physically

in a space where I could take the hurt again. It will, it will kill me. It will kill me. That would be the last hurt of my life. Max, if you had to pick, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first? Joe Milton. Good answer. He's got a rock and arm. Stubbed. Through an orange of 100, six yards. Yeah. I was thinking about it. I think I would want the Patriots to be, to be the best. Why?

Yeah. Because I can, I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around Hank. Oh, this is devil. You know. It's the devil. I know. I don't know how I, that makes sense. That's what planet would we be worse? No, that's a fair, that's a fair, yeah. We can't be worse than this guy. That's not true. He's drunk during your show right now. That's also not. But I already hate Hank. I don't want to, I don't want to hate you guys.

Yeah. You pass the breathalyze right now. Yeah. We should get a breathalyzer. I doubt it. I, I actually understand what you're saying, Max, because I don't know what I'm capable of. Like I, it's scary to think of what I could be capable of if, kill wounds was like incredible. I might be a monster. Yeah. I mean, it would be cool. Like, if Chicago was buzzing for the Bears, that would be fun. Yeah. We would need the hopes to get up.

I want both of you guys. Oh, so you're always doing it that way. Good. You never, thank you. Hank, you want us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank. Just, but it was just preseason week one. It was and we might be a year out. But Jaden. Yeah. CJ Strauss was really good in preseason last year. I think more than anything. He was fast. It's just the ups and downs. I have to figure out how to deal with better. It's the ups and down.

Well, we, we haven't been here before. I'm like a drive by drive guy. And I need both. How to be very recently. I need to figure out like a month. You had RG3. Very recently. That was 12 years ago. You had Sam Howell. And it lasted like, I remember how he did say was a guy. I was talking super after two weeks last year. Yes. That was 12 years ago, Hank. And we had like maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy. Sam Howell was so good against Eagles in that own game. He was. It was a kind of

choice since the podcast has existed. That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. I've been it's becoming like that we haven't been before. Yes, you have. No, I haven't. Not since RG3. Second pick overall. Sickos. Oh, I teaped out. I feel like Packers fans might actually think. I'm worried. A little Jordan Love looks good. But I think they're a little worried. The RG3 croissant picture was so funny. Yeah. Very, very funny. He was always horny.

He was deep throat in that day. Yeah. Deep throating. Rado was not. Yeah. RG3. He had that past the gag reflex. She was not like in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke. Yeah, I don't think so either. He just loves croissant. He loves croissant. Okay. If you have anything else before we do, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is brought to you by the instigators now out on Apple TV.

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Soon, but James, James on the Browns is a match made in heaven. He had a very funny pregame speech. Go ahead. Getting the boys fired up. Tell us what he said in the pregame. Re-enact the pregame speech. Get us fired up. What do you mean? Come on. Do it. Do it. Get us fired up. Pretend that you're where my dogs at. Okay. That was good. And yeah, we're doing a podcast. He said like, uh,

I'm a spelled DAWGS and then we'll go, okay. So you do it. Do it for us for the podcast. Give me a D. D. Give me a A. Give me a W. Come here. Give me a G. G. Give me us. Yes. Where my dog's at? Oh, right here. James did it better. Yeah. I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were. If you were to sound Watson, you saw that you'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course. James is the best. Like he's got he's got a captive audience. Everyone.

At their every word that he said. At their minimum, like if the Sean Watson has an MVP type to year, even with an MVP type year, the rest of the locker room likes James more. Yeah. Like no matter what you have a backup quarterback that is liked more. The whole building correct. James more. Correct. Which and he doesn't have all that baggage that DeShawn has. Correct. The history. Correct. Facts. Good. Good. Back. Back. Thank you. Was that the last

sweet you saw? No. No. That's good. Who's back? Great. Who's back? Thank you. We do you. Jonston. Thank you. It's back. He is. I thought your who's back was going to be elevators. No, no elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator. Oh, to tell. Oh, I we were just going down. We had too many people in the elevator. Was Max in it. Max was not in that. I was not in this bullshit. That was bullshit. Question. I was not in the elevator.

I just asked. I got down safely. I got down safely. Wait. So you how many people did you get in the elevator? It was probably like 15. I think it's like a 2000 weight limit. We had a couple. No Max. Couple big boys. Oh, couple football players, former football players, quigs. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Well, quigs allowed to get fucking shots. Hank, you were in there too. I wasn't there. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're good. Let's just squeeze on. And then we got to

the first floor. And then you just felt it go even lower. Wait, was it was a right down to the first floor? Got down to the first floor. And then it dropped. Oh, you sank too low. They had to open the door. It took like 10, 15 minutes. And then we had to basically climb out. Oh, to the first floor. Was that a thrice and crop elevator? No, it wasn't a notice. I don't know what type of thing. Oh, this would never malfunction like that. So Hank, answer me this. Had you been drinking alcohol

before this? Yes. Okay. So yeah, I would imagine if you're stuck in elevator with 15 people that had been drinking not max, not max, somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right? No, it wasn't. They hadn't got to that point. Everyone was, everyone was pretty chill. No one was freaking out. You know, we were squeezed in pretty tight. It was a nightmare. It was good. It was good vibes. I think it went another like 10 minutes and you know, some people might have been

like claustrophobic or had to pee, but it wasn't too, too bad. I get so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator. Did you get some tunes going? I was playing some music. Yeah, what's good elevator music? Billy Strings. Yeah, your accessibility. Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played. So I just, you know, press play. We're also we're playing it. We're playing a great playlist. I think you asked for it. I just looked it up on Spotify. The playlist is called just Vietnam War

Music. Yeah, yeah. I was watching the planes at Hank's place and they brought the helicopters out. I was like, we got a blast fortune at some. Yeah, it's a must. But it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day. Nice. You've got a little mini-bate now. I'm going on your brain right now. That's how it's a constant Vietnam in my brain. I was trying to avoid the limits. No one's winning. Yeah, a lot of resources. No one's winning.

All right, that elevator being I've been sucking one elevator in my life. It was brutal. It's just like that first five minutes like, are we getting out? Are we never getting out? And then you realize you're probably going to be fine. It's called the fire department. No, it wasn't. I wasn't that worried about it until once we got out, I was like, oh, that was kind of bad. Like you had to step so you would what if you got caught when you were stepping up?

Or yeah, if you're stepping up and the thing came down. Yeah, that's out of bed. Yeah, we've been real bad. We've been ashamed. Real bad. Okay, PFT, you're who's back. My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium. They did some renovations to it. It's a major innovations to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof. They opened up the window and they were trying to open

the roof up, but they couldn't. I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium and the stadium roof is not used to being open in this new configuration. One of the things they took down was sent to our office. It's a piece of NFL history to say lightly. Jim Merse, especially packaged up and sinover. First of all, a very nice letter for myself in big cat. Normal signature. Totally cool signature. Referred to as Mr. Cat and Mr. Comments.

I like that touch. And he added in a little line about sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissed and in the wind. Yep. So we opened up the package and what's inside, but the 2014 AFC finalist banner. The one that was hanging up in Lucas Oil Stadium. So we have that here at Barstool HQ. The deflake game. It's the deflake game. Hank actually is responsible for that banner. Yes. And a recipe because of that banner. Yeah, you can't tell the story

of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC finalist banner. We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years. I think memes has made like 70 photo shops of it. And now it's ours. And we got to figure out a place to hang it up. We own it. We own it. But thank you to Mr. Erskine. It's incredible. Colts. Never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them. Never in a million years that I think it was going to be that banner. No. So we tried to find a

place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang it up. But we have to figure out a good place for it. Yeah, we do. It's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr. Erskine. Also a very funny way to like rid yourself of that. Yeah. Because like putting it back up, you really can't do. It's been mocked a lot. But to send it to us, it's like we have it now. Yeah. TJ had a very good suggestion which was to get Christian

Uchek to make jackets out of it. I want to I want to a poster. Re-upholster. I like that. I'd all of any woodhead just turn it into the banner on the side. Yeah. The entire inside of Vanity Woodhead is just the banner. What if we just got in touch with Darren Revellen Clip and had him cut it up and then make trading cards probably the actual pieces of the the banner on it. We also had speaking the Colts my new favorite NFL fan. I didn't know this guy.

He apparently he's like I don't know. Colts fans know he is flow with Seth. Yeah. Makes a music video before every game. Including preseason games. I'm going to play you flow with Seth. It's only 30 seconds. His his preseason music video for the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one. Shout out this guy. We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us. This is our Colts. This is our team. We bleed. This for preseason. This is our Colts.

Whether we're loose. We love them for the cheer. Feed the Broncos. Let's show them who the real horse is. This is our team. Go. The day really doesn't the day doesn't form. That's horrible. What are you talking about? That was awesome. Football fan. That's a football guy through and three makes a custom song for every game. I like to show them with the real horses. Yeah. And then the name the name was everything. The name went like you're kind of listening to it like

I don't know. I don't know. Then the name hits you like this guy rock. I think Hank and Ori written them off after the opening line. I was sad. Hank. Yeah. Take it back. Show a little slowest set. This is the man. Flowest set. This is the man. Say it. No. Okay. You can do better. It's our post. You can do better. I don't know. It's our post. It was week one. It's preseason for flow of Seth too. That's facts. Get used to it. I was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner

how much it would go for. And then I realized we'd probably the only ones that would bid off. We would just drive. Yeah. We drive the price up. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome gift. Awesome gift. Did you guys like Flowest set? Loved them. Okay. Good. I've voiced of an angel. Yep. Yeah. We got to think I think the banner. I think we put it behind the video board. Yeah. It needs to be somewhere prominent. That's what I was thinking too. But but that's pretty prominent. Yeah.

You walk in and you see it. I just love it. I look at it and I smile. Yeah. It does need to be hung up. I want to see it all the time. It's probably the nicest gift I've ever gotten in my entire life. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Think about it. Yeah. Like what can top that? Oh, they're trying to figure out if they could put it up in the picture. We're trying to think of it if we can make it our entire booth. It's way too big. No, but they could do it like all the way around. And like even on top

maybe. Yeah. Like no, but like everyone would do that in their dorm room trying to be cool. Put the flag little drape down. Yes. Like get the vibes right. If we I think I think I think it's jealous. It it no, we know. Look at it. I want to find a good play. I'm just telling you because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled. It's way too big for that room. But what if we what if we wrapped it where it like was on every single. Yeah. I'm thinking like completely all the way around.

I still think it'd be too big. No, even in front of the glass. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe it. That we should give it a try. We should give it a try around the room. Okay, my who's back the week is a PGA tour because Graham McDowell on the live got one game one week suspension for using nasal decongestants. That's what he said. Yeah. He said that it was VIX. Yeah. It was VIX band substance. Either way, I was shocked to know this. Is this count for announcers too? Because Jake

might be yeah, trouble. Yeah. But I was shocked to know that live had a steroid problem. I thought that was the entire point. It was like, Hey, Dustin Johnson come play on our tour. Right. You're good. So the PGA tours back. Yeah. Like this is bad for the live. You have to you you you you have no rules. You play golf with shorts. I'm pretty sure that they could sit. They could sweep this under the rug.

If you who is it Graham McDowell? Graham McDowell. Yeah. If it was somebody not named Graham McDowell. He's made the money. The next event he'll be at is the live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big asterisk poster board. I'm going to use so much nasal spray. I can't believe you took away the game. We love wait. Is that that that's the next event? That's the next. Well, he's suspended from the next event. Okay. The next event he can play in is the live Chicago event. But yeah.

When they said golf but louder, I didn't think it was going to have you know, VIX vapor rub was going to be included. Yeah. Just fucked up. Yeah. They should you should if you're the live tour make everything legal. Yeah. Have it be steroids but golf. Right. Tackling. Yes. In a football. In football. And then I want and then your championship game. Under the yard February. Yeah. Yeah. All we do the t-shot at the beginning. I mean, they make it very confusing when nobody

knows what's going on. They definitely will try to create a football league. Amen. Saudis. More football. Yeah. All right. Huey. You're who's back of the week. My who's back. The good old quarterback controversy. We it's perfect time of year for that. I think right now in New England in Denver, maybe a little you know, a little talk about it happening in Tennessee maybe. Oh. Just just a good. It's always the mid tier teams. It's never it's never you know, the top tier

Super Bowl winning potential teams or in quarterback controversies. But the quarterback who could be a controversy could come out, you know, like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation. Yeah. There could be a guy who comes out of this. So it doesn't mean that you know, they're going to be a guy this year. But this could be a future thing, especially for a patriot or a. This is the season. This is the time when we all. Yeah. And I feel like in Denver at least Sean Peyton has said so

many nice things about Bo-Nex. You know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason. Yeah. Sean Peyton probably felt like he had to let Bo-Nex have a great performance. So you're probably skimmed some shit up for him. That's so he didn't look like an idiot. That's a reputation pick. Yes. His reputation on the line. I think the same with Pettics. Although Kirk is going to be the starter. But yeah, it is fun having this time of year. Well, it's fun being

on the other side. Yeah, there's I don't have a quarterback. No controversy here. It's fucking as much as I love Tyson Bayesian. There is no country. Yeah, there's I literally have no other good quarterbacks. Yeah, there was the year that the bears brought in. We brought in falls and and he don't know that was sad. That was the saddest quarterback. Mr. Biskey. By the way, we should have said falls. Happy retirement. Yeah, we didn't mention on Friday. Hank. Good

for a false memory. None. None guy. You can't think of one. No. Come on. You can still game. So game was cool. You remember we threw that. I don't love you as a quarterback. Wait, he didn't throw it. Fuck him. Didn't he? Didn't he at one point catchable in the Super Bowl? Was in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catchable? Where he dropped it? That seems like a very special plan. It does seem special. Max. Yeah, no, I like that play. Max, where does Nick

Folls rank for you all time Eagles? Top five. Top five. Top five. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. For sure, without a doubt. He didn't play long enough to be number one more than Hertz. Yeah. He won a Super Bowl. He did? Yes. Right now. Folls. What a career for Nick Folls. Yeah, Nick Folls, not a Hallfamer, but he did have that one season where he like a magical season. We should do amount rush more of guys that had like, we had two magical season.

Yeah, he had the one season that people 22 and two. Was it 22 touchdowns? Two interceptions. It was crazy. He couldn't throw a pick that year. Yeah, but no one thought. Yeah, yeah. And then we traded for St. Bradford. Yeah, but he had, let's see, Nick Folls, Super Bowl, and oh, this is he's got 87 million in the bank cash. He made the snow game. Also, this is very, that's on me. Very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings. How was that game?

His birthday is January 20th, 1989. Oh, no. I thought that was what my, if you listen back, when I said, oh, that was because I saw in 1980, I was like, he just retired. He's four years younger than us. If you would ask me, I would have said 1983. He seems so old, right? God, damn it. Folls is old as fuck. Oh, actually, I was thinking about this side tangent. If the brawn wanted to, how long do you think you play? So he's, he's embracing the great thing.

I don't know if it's a pair of steel where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray so everyone sees how gray I am. Yeah. Old old King still reigns that type of thing. But based on the way that he played, if he if it's if a steroid guy is still around, I think we'll get to the steroid Mount Rushmore. I think he could play another five years.

I but no, but hold on. I should I ask that incorrectly. If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be a little brawn James, but I'm going to play till I'm like not good enough to play in the NBA, I think it'd be 10 years. Maybe. Like if he if he in five years from now said, I'm cool coming out like being a bench guy coming off the bench for like five minutes a game. He he will be better in at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of play. I think at least five more years. Right.

At least like he is very interesting. I don't think that I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He will he's not going to want to go out being on the bench, but he's the first time where it's like like what what's his name has him did. No, it hasn't yet. Yeah, you don't say you don't have them, but like he wasn't actually contributing at the end, but like LeBron, it's crazy to think, but I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50

years old, could probably make an NBA roster. You probably good. Yeah. I don't think that's that far off because right now he's still top five in the world. He's top 10. I think he's probably top five in the world. Yeah. In the in the US top 10. But still I feel like he could what's a lot better. What is he if they were on the same team, who do you think we get the minutes? We think we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just happened. What happens?

LeBron is the magic of the show. If I was bringing up an actual hypothetical, we just ended up back in this if you were to take to five best players in the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum Tatum. But if you're trying to win, so would he start? Yeah, he'd be in the closing lineup. He should be. Yeah. He'd be in my closing lineup. Okay. Yeah. I think at least five more years. Yeah. I just I kind of want him here. LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally,

which I know you care so deeply about. If you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play with your 55 Jordan, never one six man of the year. Right. He like he could be. I don't know. Be cool. Be cool to see. He wouldn't do it. But it would be cool to see. You get entire season of load management. Right. Just put him in. I'm going to go as hard as you can for five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford. And then after

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First of all, thank you for joining us. Course, thank you guys for having me on. Yes, so we start every grit week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit? Oh, man. That's a good stuff. That's just being able to fight through whatever is Aylenia, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right? Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play,

you know, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is. You got to have a little grit. Separating your shoulder, coming down the field. That clip, you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a ton, you've got to hit them a million times your tough as hell. Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, hey, come out and you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out. Do you watch that and be like, man,

I am tough. No, I usually, I think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start winsing again, but no, it's a cool thing that I got lucky, luckily to have been mic'd up, you know, by himself films for that moment. Otherwise, everybody's just calling me an idiot, get back up. Let's go. You was, but it was kind of a cool moment to have. Yeah. Cool. You're like, get off me. You actually like had to push trainers off you. Yeah. Is that usually work? Yeah, usually. They're

kind of soft, you know. You can kind of get what you want when it comes to those guys. So no, I, yeah, that was a weird one, right? They call time out and for some reason in my head, the moment that clicked it was like that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in and I knew there was only going to be one more play. So I could get through one play with there. Yeah, what's going on? What hat are you wearing right now? What is that?

Uh, Dodger Hat. Dodger Hat. Do you know anyone that plays with a Dodger? No, I don't. You know, just a just an outside fan. You never would school with anybody that's the same thing. No, just, you know, from, uh, from the outside looking in really. We fact checked that. Really? Do a deep dive. I don't know if anybody's heard of it. I mean, you play the game so you don't listen to the games.

Do you know how annoying that is? Yeah, I mean, I do. Yeah, I mean, all my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time and, uh, and, uh, you know, give me, uh, give me a tough time. But yeah, I get it, you know, it's cool 10, 12 years ago, but, uh, yeah, everybody gets it. And then we had Scottie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's just too much. It's crazy. It's too much. Wow. When he got arrested, were you like, oh, man, this is a dragon or a high school?

No, I was like, for you, bro, man, you're just trying to make your tea time, man. Like, I just try to make his tea time. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no look passes? Uh, I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as like credit goes, um, you know, um, I know that, uh, they're fun when they, when they work, they're kind of shitty when they don't, but, uh, it is, it's part of it, you know, I think defenses are so

good these days, these guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes. So I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I can. How long have you been doing that? Is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere, or were you doing that like way back in the day? Um, you know, I think it's probably, you know, uh, been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day

with Calvin, you know, everybody in the building, you know, I was trying to throw on the ball. So, I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing on the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But, uh, yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more, you know, publicity, I guess recently, but, um, you know, I had to do that with with Megatron just trying to get him the ball. Yeah, when he, uh, when he retired, how, how often would you call him and be like, can

you just maybe just just one more game? Love it, God, please come back. I need you. No, it was, uh, you know, like that's one of those, he was such a special player, such like a generational player, such a great teammate that I was, I was genuinely just so happy for him that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away. He was in all time great. We all knew it. It was unbelievable, um, to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. Um, but I was so happy for him.

I'm still so happy for all his success, but, uh, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that, but I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing. Do you have a favorite throw ever? Uh, no, probably not. I mean, there's, I'd be at least one or two that are up there. There's a couple good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. I, in the Dallas

game, um, back in the day, I had to try big comeback late in the game. That last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham. Who's my college roommate? You know, played a few leagues, a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long wall down the left side into like a two-tamp of coverage, which was a cool shot. Um, in London against the Falcons, uh, we were down big and I think it was the touchdown. I think that got me the, um, career

Lions TD mark passing TD mark. I threw one to Golden Tate that was just a launch that was a good one. Um, do you know when it's like, when you're throwing like a deep ball, you know the second you release, you're like, damn that. I fucking, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Well, that was kind of a weird one. They were like, hey, hey, every once in a while, they would just kind of rush three drop eight and I just told GT, I was like,

hey, I mean, just keep running. Yeah. And it was one of those that kind of bought a little bit of time. It was third crazy long. Might have been 20 something like that and hit a long touchdown. Similar to the one I hit Cooper in, uh, Tampa and the division around, right? Like third and 19. They're like, oh, they're just going to check it down and that's when you can kind of go for the dagger every once in a while. No, you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too, but, um,

some, some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do something big. So, yeah, that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world. There's a diehard box fan. Oh, yeah. Literally snatch the soul out of his body, which I love that. That was that was a crazy crazy. I mean, and honestly, the, the deep Alde Cooper in that game to put us in field, go ranges like, yeah, as far as a full play. I mean, the situation, the whole thing,

that was a really, really special one. Weird question for you. Yes. Um, first time you ever checked your MX points. How many did you have? This might have been a question from a weirder guy, Dan Orlovsky. Oh gosh. I don't know. Or Lovsky. Did I tell him it's? I don't know. Yeah, he's just said that I said what it's a lot of points. I've never used any. Let's put it that way. I've never really ever used any. I don't know. I'm kind of at the point now where I'm like, I don't

know if I will. So our boss, Dave, he has 60 million points. And he said he will never use him. I don't have that many, but, uh, so you'll never use it. I have a lot. Yeah. I have a lot of points and you're never going to use it. But I don't, I don't know. I don't think so. Wow. What? I love that. Would if somebody like wants your points. Like, you're not. Yeah. I mean, we could talk about it afterwards if that's the one. Okay. Take your points. Listen, I, I don't

want to say like I didn't. I'm a Bears fan. So I obviously lines and bears are playing. But I always was like, I respect the fuck out of Stafford. I had to take that. You're going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018 and people laughed at me when I appreciate that. That sounds like it should be worth a few. Yeah. A couple of points. Have you thought of that though? Like you are. You're mixed points? No, well, MX points. But yes, also Hall of Fame. Your career has been phenomenal. You are,

and my point at the time was look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously, win a Super Bowl, he's going to be right there. And if you look right now, three to four, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touchdowns. Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn, like I'm stacking it up here. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think I definitely every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much. And I think back

on, I mean, we were just talking about, you know, place from my rookie year. And it's like, man, that was a long, long time ago. I walked into a locker room with guys that were six, seven, eight, nine years old when I first came to the league, which is kind of crazy to think about. But I definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game. I mean, it's given me a ton. I hope I got three or four more left in me. We'll see every year as a new year. But I do feel good.

And as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game. Like I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys voice over stuff. And like I was all in on Johnny, United's and sling and Sammy ball and all the guys, right? So I have a ton of respect for this game and, and just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling and something that, uh, you know, I don't think about on a

day to day basis, but when it comes up, man, it's a ton of appreciation for me. Yeah, well, I had your back. Yeah, people I was going back through it today, looking at it and people like no chance. Yeah, dude, he's been he's played so many games. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, it's very super bowl on top of that. Yeah. So what like a million AX point. Yeah, I can get you that. Okay. All right. That actually speaks very highly for Dan or Lovsky. The fact he is a great analyst.

Yeah. If you notice how many AX points you have. Yeah, the guys and you don't even know. Yeah. That's also very, it's also very weird that he knows that. I'm going to check my password when we leave here. Yeah. Just make sure it's not or Lovsky eight. Do you ever tell Dan like, hey, chill out, man, like you you love me a little too much? No, I don't. You know, I just accept it all. I accept it all. Keep bringing it. He's the man I had such a great. He's such a good dude. He's such a great guy

to be, you know, a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot. So I appreciate Dan and everything. Everything he says. Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like, oh no, does he have a deal? Yeah, I thought that was kind of fucked up. I thought, yeah, there was a trust tree thing and he just decided to turn us back for a minute back. Yeah, if you love something, set it free. I mean, you throw a guy,

AX points, I'll do anything. Yeah, I'm going to turn right back around. I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks of any quarterback. Have you considered sucking less in the first three? Yeah, I think about it, but that's such a good stat. I can't let that go to somebody else. No, three, four games a year, you know, just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figured out late. Mr. Comeback. Yeah, I got a weird question. Our good

friend Tony Schaffler, we played with Detroit. When Dave and I beat him two on one in his driveway, did anyone in the Lions locker room give him shit for that? I don't know that we did, but man, how is Tony? Do I have a great Tony in forever? Yeah, freaking man. He's the best. I love that guy. He was all-time celebrations guy. Yeah, the Tampa Bay. The Buccaneer Sword, the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, the Loin cloth. He was making a smoke signal. He was all-time

celebration guy. Super fun guy. Great dude. So one of a half of him, dude. Who's the favorite teammate you've ever played with? Oh, man. That's a good question. I got a bunch, man. I think, like early on, the offensive lineman, the guys that I had like Dominic Reola was a big time. Great teammate taught me a bunch. Also kind of a psycho, but in like a good way. Yeah, kid, baller. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable talent at quarterback. Yeah, you're his godfather, right? Yeah,

he's a stud. He's one. Nate Berlison was a great dude to be around. All-time fun guy to be around. Didn't have that long of a stretch with him. Obviously, the guys here, Aaron Donald Cooper, those guys are unbelievable. Still eat breakfast, Cooper every morning? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, we sit in there. We're watching tape this morning a little bit. We're actually watching the 2017 Rams Cold Season opener. Why? Because we want to see what the first game, how the offensive

evolves since Sean's first game here calling it to. Now it's quite different. And then we turned on 2018 Rams, Lions at the Lions and watched me lose a game, which was kind of shitty. Yeah, that's not tough. Are you ever like, hey, can we watch something else besides football? Yeah, I think about it all the time, but you know, Cooper would be. That's totally off. All right. There have been any other players that are like, you know, trying to kiss up a little

bit too much to you. And you're like, I want to get in the breakfast club. No, you know, it's, it's not even like an exclusive thing like Pukas in there a bunch too. Our cafeteria here, I don't know if you guys have been looking after having meal here. We have not. It's, it's tight quarters. Yeah, please, please on me on me. It's tight quarters in there. So it's there's not a

whole lot of seats and tables and you know, we're in the process of moving into a new facility. So it just kind of migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways. So it's not some like exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and tells us up. Yeah. Going back to last year's playoffs, how, how tough was it to go back to Detroit? And like, I know, obviously, you have that history. Your, your, all your daughters were born

there. Was it a moment where it's like, man, this is going to be difficult even though we got to go play a game like it's, there's just more energy to it. Yeah, definitely. It definitely was. I'm not, I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions, even like the week of practice thinking about it, you know, and talking to people that, you know, meant a lot to me in my life and in my career that still live in Detroit or a big part of the community there. So it definitely

was, you know, kind of, it meant a lot. It was tough. And then when I walked into the stadium, I definitely felt it. But once the ball was sent man, it was time to go. I was just trying to try to throw for as many yards as I possibly could throw scores, many touchdowns and beat the hell out of them. It didn't go down that way, but that's all I was trying to do. Don't worry, we gave Sean a ton of shit for punting. Okay. So he'll never do that again. Just because we ashamed.

We're going to go for every fourth down the fourth and 14. Let's go. That's Stafford zone. Were you surprised at the, the welcome they got in Detroit? No, honestly, I was, I know what kind of fans they are and like honestly, I totally understand it. I get it. They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible. They haven't had a

playoff game there in 30 years. So they're going to be jazzed up for whatever. And the fact that it was me, I mean, and our team, I'm sure it was even more so that was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in. Sean and I talk about all the time and it was incredibly loud. It was, we came up for warmups and there was not an empty seat. Yeah. And I mean, it was go time from the, the second we first stepped out of the tunnel. So it was, it was a lot of fun.

Yeah. Is it a great game? Were you rooting for him after they won? No, I'm not rooting for anybody at that point. Yeah. I have a couple teammates that I wanted to like, ex teammates that I really wanted to see play well and they did. But at that point, I'm, I wish everybody could lose. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you watch the playoffs? Sometimes, you know, it's, it's hard. Yeah. You know, I'll peek it, but I'm not, I'm not like invested being like, oh, that'll be a good match

up next week. I'm like, if this, I want to be out there. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I, after you win a Super Bowl, though, it's probably got to take, does it take a little bit of this thing out of losing the playoffs? I think it's almost the opposite. In the fact that like, I know what that feels like now, you know, I've got to, I've got to lose in the first round. I got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like. Only gotten one taste at the Super Bowl and I'm like, man,

I want to do that. And when you get those opportunities, I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs that when you get, you know, the opportunity, you're really close, you know, I mean, like the fact that, you know, Detroit did what they did after they beat us, man, if we win that game, who knows what happens. So it's, I, it makes it, you know, almost even harder to be honest. You're chasing the dragon. Yeah. Yeah. Another parade.

Yeah. Yeah. You had fun at the parade. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to ask some, some, I was going to ask if you remembered thinking that you were in St. Louis during the parade, but you probably don't remember anything. Yeah. That's not all the time. Did you say like, what's up, St. Louis? Yeah. I don't know. I was having a good time. That one was an early start, limited breakfast, all the good recipe for, for a tough day, but you know what, we had a good time.

I enjoyed it. We, as from a fans perspective, when like guys get super drunk at the championship parade, it's the best. Yeah. I mean, that's what you should do. I know, right? Yeah. I was kind of felt bad about it. And Kelly was like, what are you talking about? That's what exactly. You've been playing this game for forever, getting your ass kicked. Like you deserve to do whatever you want. And I was like, yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Fun. Yeah. Speaking of wife, by the way, are you

nervous that she and Jersey Jerry have DM'd before? Uh, yeah. I guess. I'm, yeah, I am. She's going to end up playing Madden with him. Yeah. That's great. And she's also, he's also going to find a way to get like all your sign memorabilia from your house. Oh, perfect. I want to go. It's missing on the order of look. Uh, yeah. I, uh, I have no idea. Social media is

a monster that is lost on me, but I'll do you a favor. I'll watch Jerry for you. Thank you. I'll make sure because if there's like some weird like Stafford cleat showing up to the office, yeah, where'd that come? Ship them back. Yeah. He's definitely going to say like, hey, uh, can you, can you grab me a sign, Jersey? My son's a big match. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Making out his name's, also Jersey Jerry. Yeah. Right. Making autographed to him. He DMs a lot of players,

players wives, players, moms. So at least that you have that. Okay. Okay. That's just kind of this thing. Yeah. Right. So you'd be, you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes. He's probably going to ask for her shoes. Yeah. That's what you got to watch out for. Yeah. Little shoes. You don't want to ask. Quick break from Matthew Stafford. Talk about hard knocks. It's back. It's the official hard knocks podcast from H.F.O. and NFL films this year. Hard knocks

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coach or OC. He is known as the best wide receiver coach in the NFL. Yeah, I don't even know who that is. No, Chad's the man. I'll tell you what, I'm not quite at the LeBron status where I just get to, you know, bring in hire whoever I want. Uh, but Chad is the man. He, uh, I used to throw to him all the time in the off season two is like my receiver back in the day. Um, but yeah, I mean, we've been trying to get him out here some way somehow. He would go great in California

with the blonde flow. I mean, it's I mean, Sean just hired his best run from college. That's true, but uh, I don't like the coaching tires. If Chad could still run her out, I could maybe get him a try out as a receiver, but no, it's it's really cool to watch his career, um, you know, in their family grow, it's been cool. Yeah. All right. So just remember the name Chad Hall. He's going to be a head coach. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. Is he, he's known as the best wide receiver coach?

That is what I talked about Buffalo there for a long time. Yeah. Um, and he's crushing it in Jacksonville now. So he does a good job. And that's not from him. No, no, no, no. Yeah. I read that off. That's from a different guy. Top my head. Yeah. So what are we thinking for this year? How are we looking to camp? I know that coach told you guys not to fight, right? Yeah. Have you fought anybody? Have you wanted to I have a theory that the new Guardian, the caps that they wear, the soft ones.

Yeah. People are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer. Well, I saw some, some clips from what Detroit and New York the other day, they were fine. Pretty good. And dudes were just smacking each other in the gardening cap, but I guess, yeah, it doesn't, doesn't hurt your hands as much. I have not fought anybody. Haven't had the urge to yet. I'm usually just too tired of practice, even think about fighting. Um, but, uh, no, we've,

we've, we've kept the chipping is down, which is good. Yeah. It's been good. Um, couple guys dinged up, which is like, you know, the worst, you know, for those guys, I feel so bad for them. We're trying

to, you know, kind of come together, but I feel good about this year. So I, as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it, uh, I imagine that going to camp every year in the middle of the summer, you're like, it's probably not a great feeling, but also some day, I have to do something to learn. Like, are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past?

No, I mean, it's pretty standard for me. Um, I had one, I had one like vet off day, um, the first day of pads, uh, this year, that was the kind of like the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else. Um, that was something that we kind of knew going into camp, um, that I was going to do, but no, I mean, it is, uh, you know, late July every year, you just, you know, book your chin strapping, get ready for, you know, six, eight month grind and, and, um, it's, this is the start of

it. I know training camp has changed so much when I first kind of league. I was part of the old CBA. I mean, we're going to three days full pads. I mean, just beating each other up for weeks on weeks and, uh, it's definitely player of more, in more player friendly now, um, but I also think it's just a better way to do it. You know, I think we're getting better work out of it.

Yeah. So speaking of camp, how fast last year, we like all Pukin' Oku's dude. Yeah. I mean, Koop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring and, and we lost, uh, lost him and, uh, yeah, I mean, you could kind of feel it, you know, just physical, like it was always going to take time. You're a rookie, right? Like it's going to take time to keep understanding, but it was a testament to him to be able to kind of learn on the go. You know, a lot of people need a full year to

kind of just learn and then go and he was able to do it all in one. Physical tools are there. I mean, big, strong physical, um, you know, so much of his yardage last year was like hidden yardage run after the catch. And, uh, that stuff you can't really teach you just kind of let him be himself and, and, uh, that's a pretty darn good player. Yeah. Yeah. So I was going to go ahead. I was going to say on the college front, um, do you call the dogs? Do I call the dogs? Can you use a fan?

Yeah. Oh, like a Georgia thing. They call on all the dogs and start barking at people. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not like a, yeah, you know, and I actually get wildly uncomfortable when people like bark at me or be like, yeah, they'll be walking on the street like dogs. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I don't ever give them the go dogs. Back at just something sit right with me. Yeah, I don't know why it's definitely a player fan disconnect. We'll see like videos on flights,

like going across the country to Georgia, like a road game or a bowl game. And there'll be guys just like jam packed on Southwest Airlines. Just barking at the pilot when he gets on. Yeah. What the fuck? Go to the screaming at me. I'm like, guys, uh, thanks. You guys start barking back. Yeah. I need to. Just a little bark. I know. I need to. My wife from Georgia. So like, yeah, I got to, I got to make her proud. What, what was your favorite game at Georgia and at least

favorite game? Um, favorite game at Georgia. Um, probably two. We had the blackout versus Auburn, my sophomore year, which is the first time we ever wore black jersey, which was sweet. We had a great game. Um, Keelan Johnson, I believe it was a pick on the first play, which was awesome. Um, and then sugar bowl that year in Hawaii against Hawaii was really cool. I felt like we should have been a national championship game there that year kind of got jumped because we didn't go to the

SC championship. But went to New Orleans, had a good time in New Orleans and, uh, you know, beat up on Hawaii. So that was a good one. Uh, least favorite game probably at Kentucky. My freshman year got my helmet ripped off on a run, QB run on third down kept running. Smash in the forehead, nose cut, the whole thing. So and we lost. So I had the loss and just, uh, just a malled face for a couple weeks, which is a tough one. Yeah. It probably looked pretty

sweet though when it happened. Yeah. I mean, I don't remember it that way, but, uh, as a fan, yeah, you probably thought it was. Yeah. I've seen, you seem to take a, how should I put the, a less physical approach to the game sometimes. I've seen you out in space as like a lead blocker. On a reverse. Oh, yeah. You're blocking is it's something to watch. Yeah. It's kind of like kind of getting the way. Yeah. But then also kind of get out of the way. One of the days,

nowadays I'm just talking to the defenders. Hey, man, man, he's, yeah, easy up. Don't have me. You know, I'm just trying to like, you know, get out of the way safely. Yeah. But earlier in my, in my career, yeah, I mean, I, uh, I like the physical part of the game a little bit more than I do now. That's there's no question. Yeah. In the, uh, that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. Yeah. You got knocked around a little bit. Are you getting,

do you get mad in the games like when you have that adrenaline surge like you did? Yeah. You're lucky year of what we talked about. Like are you mad? Are you mad that they're hitting you like that? No, I, uh, it kind of, it kind of fires me up a little bit. You know, like there's only two ways for you to go react as a player, right? Like you're going to either, like, wilt and go sit on the sideline and be intimidated by getting hit or you got to charge yourself up and

be like, keep bringing it. And, uh, I think the first one of the early third downs of the game, I threw one to the Marcus Robinson and smashed my hand on the helmet and got hit and, um, I heard like hell, but the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't and, uh, you know, screen back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's great. How, how far can you throw the ball still still? Oh, man, I don't know. Um, I, I, I don't do it. Yeah, I don't do

it much anymore. Um, I, in high school, we went to that Elite 11 camp. I threw one 78. I was like the longest I ever like tried and threw it, you know, I read a story that you went to the Manning Passing Academy or, yeah, they, when you were on the Manning Cast, maybe they told the story that they book Eli and Peyton were like, we don't want to throw after staffer when you were like 17 years old because you were just like, hucking it everywhere. Yeah. Back in the day, I was the

arm was live. Yeah. And it's live back in the day, um, taking a couple of hits, heard a couple things here and there. But no, I can, I can still get it out there a little bit. I don't, I, I couldn't even tell you to be honest with you. It's probably starts with a six instead of a seven like it used to, but it's probably a high six number. That's cool. Do you guys not like catching your balls like when they come over from a different team or they're like, this guy, it hurts.

Used to be that way. Used to be when I was young and I didn't really know what I was looking at everything was coming out as hard as I could and I was, I was trying to hurt people with it. Now I'm trying to help them catch it, which is better for the completion percentage. People don't give that staffer enough credit for your arm. Yeah. Well, I, uh, I don't know, it's, it's whatever it is still anymore. But back in the day, I could, I could throw it around a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever play baseball? I did. Were you on, were you on anyone's team? No, no. This kind of like you got live arm. Who's a one-man show? You did you have the best arm on your team? Uh, no. Oh, no. Who did? That's crazy. Jake felt. Just picked another teammate. Jake. Jake. I love Jake. I love Jake. And he sits around. He's like, you know what? That's exactly what we need. What other guy to talk about? Yeah. A guy that nobody talks about. Wait a minute.

Jake felt. Jake felt. I'll tell you what. He was eighth grade. You know, this guy was shaving in the eighth grade. Yeah. He was an unbelievable stud. Uh-huh. Uh, uh, we'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs, launching it. Uh, get that master. I heard a Jake felt. That's it. Never was. Jake. I don't understand how people don't know that. Yeah. But fun fact about Jake felt five touchdowns in the state championship game. Texas high school record. Wow. Jake felt

legend. Jake felt legend. Yeah. And he caught who threw those. Uh, zero throws. Oh, so what? That? What? Yeah. They were playing a lot of a lot of two deep show. We're handing off coach. Take what you gave me. Yeah. Just running with it. Running with it. Caught a pass from a receiver on a Delberaverse pass to receiver. One fifty nine and nothing. It was kind of like a Jerry's world. No, back in the day. Tyler Rose Stadium. Uh, Jake felt. Jake felt was a proud. We're going to

just start saying that like, who's the best to come out of Highland Park by Jake felt? Have you ever heard Jake felt? Yeah. He's going to be fired up. Good for you, man. Deep cut. Good for you, man. We got to have Jake. I talked to Jake. I talked to Jake. We got to have him on the pod at some point. Yeah. We actually open him by. Yeah. We're going to track him down. We're going to take that rock. What's in store for this year? Prediction. Record? Yeah. I don't do that. Um, we're going to try to

win a whole lot more than we do. Uh, lose. But no, it's, um, it's so much fun to get out there and do it, man. I honestly do have a ton of fun with it. Um, but as far as predicting the record, I got no idea for you. We'll see every year as a brand new brand new year. If you had told me last year, we're going to be three and six at the buyout. I told you you're crazy because I thought we were playing really good. And then if I told you, you know, we're going to win seven and one,

we're going to go seven and one after that. You had told me I'm crazy. So, you know, it's just got to go out there and play him. And that's the cool and amazing part about NFL football is, you know, you kind of go into the season, you kind of know, George is going to be good. You kind of know, Ohio State, those teams are going to be, you know, the big time power houses. And then you come in the NFL, you're like, man, who knows? Yeah. Nobody had the Houston, Texas doing what they

did last year. So got to go out there and prove it every single year. Right. How awesome was it at the end of the game against the commanders last year? We're, uh, Ron Rivera ran like nine plays inside the two yard line. And it took like four minutes off the clock and then score a fucking point off it. Are you bitter about that? No, actually, I was at the time. I was very angry at the time. Yeah. But because we lost that game, we drafted Jane Danes. Oh, I'm, I'm high. I think he's awesome.

Yeah. He's super fun to watch. Um, at least he wasn't college. Um, and then, uh, old backup mine is a, uh, uh, QB coach there too. David Blow, shout out David Blow. Yeah. I did some good things for him. So loving you. Blow Purdue. Purdue, Boyle maker. Yes. White friend, uh, 400 meter hurdles. Right. When he was with the Lions, they, you know, did the whole deal. They'll team watch it. I don't think she ran this year, but, uh, um, yeah, old David Blow's QB coach. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. So no predictions, but dream career. How many more years you played? Um, I don't know, man. I feel really good and healthy right now. Um, I know. Really good cliche answer. No, but I would say this. Yeah. I mean, I'm full of them. Um, and then this for a long time. Uh, but, uh, no, I do think that like, there's no possible way I could tell you that answer right now, because like, at the end of last year, I was like completely worn out and zapped, right? And then

it takes me forever to kind of just get like charged up to go again. And what I put myself through, like physically, emotionally, mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out. Um, and I got an awesome family that I love being around. So I don't know. I know I'm going to enjoy this year. Hopefully I'm back next year playing. I hope I'm back the year after that plan, but I can't. We feel great right now. I do. I feel really good. I do. Yeah. Honestly,

like elbow was shit a couple of years ago. It feels great now. There's a lot of me that is kind of revamped and feels a lot better. So I feel good. Yeah. It felt like when you're, when you're going through your elbow injury, when you're trying to gut it out for a little bit, like you had some weird games where you're like, you were had to like throw it weird. I was, I was in a bad spot. Yeah. Uh, really, you know, that elbow started all the whole 21 season. I started wearing that

sleeve because I was like taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going. I heard it in camp that year and was able to get through that. And then we tried to do some things to help it fix. And I had 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So it feels great. Last year felt great. It feels good again. Yeah. Are you like us as fans? Like if you have a bad game, do you just try to avoid any sort of media coverage whatsoever? And you're like, I don't,

I don't want to listen to anything. Yeah. I don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up. Then I have to listen to their dumbass like take about it because as fans, we, we avoid the media like to play on Monday, Tuesday, probably Wednesday, even Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't want to accidentally catch any strays about like flashing back to that game. Yeah. No, I mean, at that point, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I mean, I'm like, so moved on to the next game.

Obviously, I'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game if we had a bad one or I had a bad one. All right. Let's, how do we fix it? And if you're not thinking about the next opponent Monday or Tuesday, like you're way behind. So, uh, that's where my focus goes. And I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to, uh, to a lot of like, you know, sports talk or any of that kind of stuff there in the season. For that. Smith doesn't enter your head at all.

Stephen A is not, uh, he doesn't have any, any space up here. Hey, who would have won, uh, the fight between Jim Schwartz and, uh, Jim Harbaugh. And that's a great throwback. Yeah. Um, one of our, I mean, like Harbaugh was already like derobing. He was ready to shirt off. He was ready to throw down. Um, so I mean, like, that's a early advantage. You know, we weren't going to be able to hockey pull the shirt over. Go, but, uh, no, I would have been a good one to watch. It would

have been a really interesting one to see. Um, that escalated quickly very because we like to say, but, uh, man, you know, I, I got to go with my guy that, that, uh, drafted me Schwartz. Yeah. You know, he's a really sharp duty probably would have found a, uh, an interesting way to, to win that one. I think you would have had to kill Harbaugh. Yeah. Because Harbaugh is dead. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's fair. That's a fair point. Yeah. Do you ever tell coach Schwartz that, uh, his nipples were

showing because he always had like hard nipples. You know, that never came up. Okay. You know, you would think it was. I saw it. No, it was just hallway. I don't know what it was. I think he was just so excited to coach football. Yeah. I think he just gets geared up for it, man. And that polo ever does it. Talked in, you know, like damn. Have you noticed, uh, coach McVase Beards a little bit fuller? Yeah. I think he, uh, I think he's always got a great

beard. Yeah. I mean, is it all natural? Oh, is that what you guys are? Yeah. Is he on the gear? I don't know, man. He might be. Yeah. I'll have to, I'll have to get back to you. No, we're recovering. He is. He got, we got out of him. He's shot into his face. Yeah. Shit. Yeah. That's a thing, huh? To thicken it out. Yeah. Let him know he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame.

Yeah. I will. Yeah. Astrid. Astrid. He's just, he's just. Astrid. Astrid. Astrid. And he thought about, by the way, going to the Hall of Fame, who you would want to give your introduction speech? Oh, man. Uh, no, that's way too preemptive. Yeah. I mean, I was 2018. I was in the wild. Yeah. I can't think of anybody. No, I have no idea. I wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now. Do you think about that look? Do you think about dying your beard? No. I'm full. I'm

full like whatever happens happens. Yeah. Gray situation. I feel like it's. I battle it. Yeah. It's like, you know what? I got four daughters. No shit. You got a great beard. Yeah. You know, I mean, I think that comes with the territory. I get shame for it all the time. People just point out every picture. Thank you. I appreciate you. That's crazy. They get four daughters. Yeah. And there's only two parents. Yeah. Right? So who watches the other two? Yeah. Nobody just

kind of figure it out. Yeah. The old one likes the guy. Team, you know, they kind of come out, come in, come out, come in. We just hope you don't lose them. When was the last time you got a full night's sleep? Um, actually last night, my, my kids are actually a vacation at the beach right now. So it's beautiful night's sleep. It's why it looks arrested. Yes. Good stuff. Yeah. All right. Well, Matthew, this has been awesome. I got one last question. Chevy question. Go to Chevy.com.

Silverado toughest truck out there. This might be a weird one. You might not even have any idea who these people are. We, ever in the same room or do you wear a superfan and Detroit down to legends of the season ticket holding community and Detroit? Is that a crack man? Crack man or whatever's now? No, no. They had a video, a famous video where they got kicked out and they were, they did like a press conference from like an alley. I don't know that one. All time video. I need to check that

out. They get to tell me. Let me know. Yeah. I'll say the end zone. They're the best. So I went, I, I, I went for the Mac championship. Uh, it was like, I don't know, like 10 years ago, 10 years ago. And they said when they got kicked out, they said where their season tickets were. So I went and bought tickets. I'm a bears fan. I hate the Packers. You guys were playing the Packers. Yeah. Went to the game, sat and watched the game with them, dressed up everything. No shit.

It was Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Merritt game. That was a tough game right in their face. They were sitting there telling me that they were, I don't, I don't remember what you guys record was at the time. We had, we had just won the Thursday night game before that or the Thanksgiving day before that. I think we missed the playoffs that year by one game. Yeah, because they were doing the math. They're like once we win this game, we're going to win that one. And then boom, right in their face.

I want to hurt Phantom face mask. Yeah. That's what Aaron, he gets away with that shit. Yeah. Well, you know what? It was in jail. It was a nice toss. Yeah. It was a nice toss. I think we were in a tough tough defensive. I think we had Ziggy on, so guarding the sideline at that point, which didn't make it. Yeah, probably not the most sense. We had Detroit Don superfan there. They're big fans. They're what like the crazy Detroit fans are. We had superfan on the show when the lines

made it to the playoffs just get his reaction. And he said that there was a woman who sat next home named Sprinkles who said what's that 2017? She's like, I'm never coming to another game until they make it to the playoffs. And then they saw her out the playoff game. She showed up. True to her words. Yeah. What a what a lady sprinkles. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think she dressed like a clown. Yeah. They thought she had died. Yeah. And they're like, what? Sprinkle a lot. Yeah. So they brought

her back to life. Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. Good for them. Yeah. But Matthew, thank you so much. Best of luck this year. Appreciate it. Future Hall, famer. Future giver of MX points to me. Yes. Former teammate of Jake felt Jake felt. Yeah. And so I shout for our guy. And we'll watch Jersey Jerry because again, appreciate that. I need a little oversight there. The minute you see that name, I don't even know what that conversation is like. I don't want to know. I'm like, hey,

I talked to this guy Jersey Jerry. I'll ask you that's yeah, we got to shut that down. Perfect. Thanks man. Thanks for having me. I guess. Appreciate it. Yep. Matthew Stafford was brought to you by our great friends over at Viator. Viator is a tool that you can use to plan and book travel experiences around the world. Our app and website make it easy to explore 300,000 plus travel experiences so you can discover what's out there no matter where

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we did promise that we would tell the Huey story after the Matthew Stafford interview. Huey, obviously, Big Lions fan. He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said, not, hey, Matthew Stafford, I'm a huge Lions fan or thank you for being the quarterback on my favorite team. He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said, hey, Matthew Stafford, you're the first person I ever saw get drafted. I still don't really understand what that means. And then we asked you and he's like, well,

I was nine. It was the first draft I watched. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah. So you don't have, you don't remember any players ever getting drafted. You don't remember Calvin Johnson. How would we? I was, I didn't watch it live. He literally just sang physically. He remembers. Yeah. He didn't watch the draft before. Where were you? Where were you? Where Matthew Stafford got drafted on the couch.

Yeah. Nice. First player I ever remember getting drafted. Yeah. That is you watched the draft the year after. Yeah. Was it Sue? Sue and the, I don't know. Oh, yeah. I thought it was. The Sam Bradford draft. Yeah, might have been. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. So yeah, I do. I get that's what got me into the draft. I got super into all the drafts and got me into football. But like the first season I ever watched was the O N 16 season. Okay.

So I watched every game. So the draft was your biggest game. Okay. That makes more sense. And then like I kind of didn't know the like how the draft worked. And then like the week of the draft I kind of figured it out. Oh, okay. First. Yeah. The first bit against not a snake. Yeah. But like I also said, if it was, it would be I assumed like Stafford was going to be like a god like day one. Like, all right,

we're, we're sat like. Yeah. And so that was weird when you know how to deal with all that. But Huey, who is your favorite person to watch get drafted? Oh, it was an adombican sue. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a year after. Yeah. Because you knew what the, you were ready for that draft draft. Yeah. You were a draft draft vet. Yeah. I've been through it before at that point. I was so excited for that guy. Stafford's face when you said that he was like, what? He didn't, but he laughed. He was

like, Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I never heard that one before. He probably has so many lines, fans that have gone up to him in his career. Right. And never once has somebody said that to him. You can see as person I saw get drafted. Like that's impressive. That's impressive. Yeah. That's true. He's not going to forget that. No, he definitely will not. I love that because you're going up to, to one of your athletic heroes and being like, let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time.

Yeah. It meant a lot to me to see on my television. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a name called? I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about the playoff game. Yeah. And, and, and yeah. And, you know, him getting his ass kicked into Troy. Like that was, it was, it was very cool. Like hearing both him and Sean McVeigh. Obviously he's different with Stafford because of the time they spent there. But how much they,

like, love that stadium and that environment. Yeah. How cool they thought it was. Yeah. And Stafford was, I mean, we've been trying to get Stafford on forever and it did not disappoint. Just a fucking great dude. Yeah. He's like awesome dude. Had a lot of fun. Uh, talk to him. Hope everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay. Mount Rushmore time. So what is the score? Do we have it? I can pull it up. Pull it up. I'm in first light little bit of controversy maybe.

No, there's no controversy. Really Hank broke the rules. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yellow, yellow, yellow really set this thing off. Feels like we're back in the Mount Rushmore season. Yeah. I saw a lot of picture of yellow cheese. Thank you. Everyone for having my back. A great wait. Yellow cheese. That wasn't that wasn't that what you said. Yeah. No, no, no pictures of yellow. I saw what. Wait, Hank, all the pictures that people were sending you

and me and Big Cat and Max. You thought that those were yellow pictures of pepper. They were sending that to you. Yellow is not yellow. Yeah, yeah. Tortured buddy. Get ready to get tortured. What do you mean? Just this? Why? I don't think you're equipped. Your brain's equipped right now. Oh, I'm ready to go. Okay. So you cheated. This one. Yeah, but you cheated. I have the scores, by the way. Okay, give us the

score. I mean, I came in dead last. It didn't matter. But I still cheated. I didn't. I did not. You did cheat. The route is you're not supposed to tip your picks beforehand. The first tweet I saw from you on Friday morning was called play yellow. That was a coincidence. You also had a picture of spun your rules, SpongeBob and Pikachu. And you created that was after you guys were were you created these rules flipping out. Yeah, Hank, you read the rules. I didn't break them. You re tweeted the

Mount Rushmore and you're not allowed to do that. I do that every fucking show. You know, you can't retweet the poll and vote for team. No, you don't read. No, you don't reach very different. Yes, I do. You you you broke the rules on Mount Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear. And that's what you do. You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules. You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore. How about minus one point? We hit him in PFT tide. I think

that's fair. No. Tied for last. Hey, when I broke the rules last year, you you actually broke the rules. What was the punishment that you had? I forget. You were the first one to break the rules and Mount Rushmore points. We need the commissioner of the commissioner of Rushmore to you broke the rules and Mount Rushmore way back in the day. He broke the rules by the pizza draft. Yeah, Kevin last. The pizza drafts you broke the rules.

Came last. It doesn't matter of what? This this yellow. Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying. You said not to be flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the integrity of the past draft. Got it. That's what you want to do. I'll just hire nothing. All right, good. I don't know what I mean. You would be in last. I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I forgot. I had memory holds over because you've put so much blame on us for ruining Mount Rush.

We seem like the bad guys and I forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft, you admitted that you had someone else make all the picks for you. Liam. Yeah, not you, which is illegal. Oh, it's no question on your team. You don't ask people for for no. There you do. What's talking about? Yeah, what? And Liam made your list. Wait, how many? Yeah, yeah, you you asked people for help. No, but I'm sure you guys do. No, what?

It's not doing rocket science. Yeah. I was just curious. Okay. All right, so Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged. We'll put a legend in for but a lot. Most of these people. Do you want to score? I got to score. Yeah, yeah. Hey, did you ask anybody for help in this draft? Oh, yeah, I did. Billy football. Oh, you could be a pick. He could be a pick. He could be a pick. All right, here's the scores. Max first, 53 big cat. You don't say like that.

Big cat. Second, 44. Hank, third, 37. Oh, PFT last, 36. And we're going to find Mount Rushmore's last. Is that it? Hank out last. Yeah, I got first place in the last one, but memes. We need to figure out what the punishment is. This is so we have nine Mount Rushmore's left. Because I believe we ended before the Labor Day is last one. It's going to get tight boys. Okay, memes. I don't think Hank should be. Yeah, no punishment. I think he should just be. You should give him a warning though.

All right, you get one warning. There we go. There we go. It's a maybe another warning. But I wanted to document it warning. So like when people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores, but then it says Hank received one more. Actually, I'll find them. I'll find them. Mames, could you put that in writing? Yeah, a written warning. I'm going to find $1,000 to the commission. When people look back at the history of part of my take,

and they go through every Mount Rushmore season, it should say Hank one morning. Do you agree? I could steer. I would love to read the Mount Rushmore. Yeah, the yellow cold play though. We've never we've never done that before. I wasn't tweeting it. That wasn't tipping a pick. No, but you can't. Oh, you just happened to tweet your pick that morning. Yeah, it was just a video. I mean, we could play that game. We put you made this rule because we have bigger

followings and we could play this game. But we don't we we we play by the rules. Like if I just tweeted out my pick in the morning, everyone would be like, oh, I'm going to go vote for that. Oh, what you say you alleged that. I guess you do. The whole reason we have the rules because you're like the listeners will vote for PFT and big cat it over anyone else. So we can't let them know. And then you went and did that. It's almost like you did it intentionally. Yeah,

it's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore. No, I guess that was a mistake. I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it. But that I guess by the letter of the law was wrong. Your laws. What do you mean you weren't thinking that thoroughly? This is these are all points that you've said to us. You've made these laws on us. Yeah, just like I wasn't tweeting about my watch was a great song. I got reminded of it when I made the great pick. And then I was

like, oh, it's a great song. I'll be tweeted out. It's not back. I share it with my friends. Not that. Not in the shot. You came last. Yeah, the anime freaks didn't show out. Shocker. Part of my take in the anime crossover. We got a few. Okay, who goes first here? Mount Rushmore. I go first. It's a terrible draft. Shout out first. Shout out our guy at the meat and greedy gave us this idea. I think this is a good one. Yeah, this will also be good. This will be

it'll be a nice like change of pace from from from yeah, right. Yeah, it'll be a lot of open-ended ones coming up because I do like those. Yeah, but we needed a we need a straight foreign one. That one that one took a lot a lot of years off my life. I think we were arguing it. Easily. Not a rather Italian. They're all white. Yeah, no, I was there was times where I was like laying in bed and I was just thinking about the chief the different white cheeses. And then I was thinking I

was at there was another time. Yeah, at one point I like thought I was like, oh, that was a good that's a good argument that I should have used. I was like I was thinking I was like, Hank said yellow starbursts. Does that mean he gets all starbursts because there's one yellow starbursts? Oh, I really rattled you. Yeah, I know. Well, taking yellow starbursts was maybe the worst pick out of it. No, yep, yep, the cold place on. Yeah, that was very bad. Yeah, yep. All right, so I first pick

um pick Patrick Holmes. What? Nothing. I did it. I admit it was a bad pick. You haven't admitted any bad picks. I said I got crazy with that one. It was stupid. I got sometimes it in Mount Rust where I know the PFT can back me up. But sometimes you just like you just throw one and you're like, whoops, that was a mistake. I do it all the time. Probably should just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like, fuck, I wish I had that back. I

probably should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft. Yeah, right. It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick. But that's it happens every Mount Rust war season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft. Someone makes a good pick. You panic. Patrick Holmes gets picked. I should have said me, Paul and pizza. Yeah, you should have. Yeah, didn't. Okay. Okay. Uh, my turn. Yeah. First, I will go with I think steroids. I think one

person. I think Barry bonds. Yeah. Okay, good pick. That's good one. Yeah. That was that was a good one one. There's there are a lot of good picks, but that's the one one, I think. Yeah. I still have my one one, but I had I had bonds as one too. It was a Kinseko. Oh, good pick steroids guy. He's he's like the Johnny Apple seat of steroids for Major League Baseball. Todd everyone how to use it. Yep. Bash Brothers. He looked like a like a like a beached whale. He was on so many steroids when

he boxed Billy. Um, Jose Kinseko's got to be one one. Yeah. All right. So I'll just stay consistent here. Mark McGuire broke the home run record. That was steroid city. He was also the tip of the, the whole thing when they found the Andro great intro. Yeah. Genius move on his part. Yeah. By the way, we don't talk about that's PR 101. Yeah. You leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker so people talk about that. And then that's the controversy. Yeah. These are the I would say

these are like the faces. Those are the three faces of steroids. Yep. Three. Yeah. The three pimply backs of steroids. Yeah. Mark McGuire. He captured. I also we should have said before we got no problem with any of these. Right. We like steroids. They all should be in the whole thing. Mike. It's not a judge. Maybe not Kinseko. No, his number is probably out there. Yeah. He lost Billy football. And he's well, yeah. That's not I mean, that's taking out. That's the number

one thing. That's why he shouldn't be in the whole. But yeah. Mark McGuire, Barry bonds, they should be in the whole thing. All right, Hank. I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong. Good pick. And then I will go. Hmm. Tough. See, fourth, fourth, such a good spot. It is. Forrest Good. So bangers back there. Yeah. But then things are going to be pretty thin. You get, yeah, there's there's a wall like one one's a tough spot for this draft. Brian cushion. Okay. Interesting. I

had him on my list. He was much further down on my list. But I had him. I like it. I actually don't know. I'm going to take my next pick that I was planning on. I would have even taken him one my first pick because he is also Mr. Steroid, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. I thought about him at one one. I mean, he's like he actually also the way he talks about steroids is very funny. He's like I was prescribed by a doctor. So what like now all these guys are doing steroids and it's bad.

Yep. But he was just he was just roiding up. He was. And I mean, all his just he's a icon. I think you feel good about Brian cushion. He's on my he's on my others. I did have him. I had him as fourth round value. He's all my others. I mean, he was rooted out. He was. And I think it was a combination of like, you know, the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah. It's good pick. Good picking. Okay. I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's

staring through my soul right now. He just he's he's he's he's he's he's a cold play again. I feel good. I just did it again. I feel good. Okay. Uh, I am Lance was a good pick. Thank you. Lance was it. Yeah. No brain had to go in the first round. Absolutely. No brainer for Lance. All right. For my second pick, I'm going to go with. I'll go with Sami Sosa. Sami Sosa. I know it done steroids. Good steroids. Definitely. Dits steroids. Uh, I don't

was I think his head got twice as big. I don't appreciate that question. Then he get adult braces too. I think he got braces when he was like 35 years old. I want to find that clip from this year when when Luke and Ellis asked him if he if he finally is ready to talk about like his steroid use and he just didn't talk right? No, he he uh, hold on. I'm gonna as we said. Um, this is um, like I say, um, this he's um, um, um, not a question that I expect

of from you. Okay. That's not a guy who did steroids. Yeah. Not a guy who did steroids. Not a guy who did steroids. That's like the only question he's ever been asked. I'm gonna have to put an asterisk on that pick. PFT. Big time steroid guy. And he also and he also did a genius. He did he did his own version of Andrew, but it was with the cork bat. Yeah. Whereas I can't remember. Oh, that was that was a put on a show for the people. Yeah,

really. That's a that's a batting practice. I just love that he's still like you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid question. Still like kneecap you in 2024. Yeah, just say you did it. It's just like, uh, not a question I expected from you. Okay. Uh, I'm gonna go with a rod. Okay. Pick a pick. Um, I'm between two. A rod was I should work should have taken a rod. I mean, no, I would I would have I would have spent it for a year. I would have rather.

Well, you have another pit. I know. Roed. Oh, you're saying you would have ran taking Sam. I think I would have rather had Sam. I'll trade saying I'll trade. What trade? Can we do trades? I mean, I know. No, no, they're the most we have the most passive. We're basically our commissioner is Bud Sealy. He's just like, I'm not looking at what you're doing. Yeah. All right, no trade. No trade. Okay. This one's tough. Uh, between two guys. I'll go Roger Clements.

Good pick. Roger Clements. Good pick. Yep. Okay. My favorite roared rage moment from Roger Clements was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza. Yeah. And then he yelled at him. I thought it was the ball afterwards. Yeah. No, he's a good. He's a good. He's the other guy. I is probably a better player, but Clements is more of a steroid guy. Yeah. I mean, he's got so angry. He's such a steroid guy. Yeah. You got so angry. Okay. PFT. I'm going to go with Vince McMahon. Had him on my list.

Yep. I had him on my list. Yep. Vince. And he also did the Bud Sealy. Like where he just let everybody else use steroids. Yeah. He just was so fucking roared it out that when he like the attitude era, it was crazy. Yep. Crazy. Okay. Uh, I'll go with someone different. Some may say best in the world. Best ever. Uh, John Jones. Yeah. Had him on my list. John Jones. The only thing about him is he did so many other drugs. Yeah, he did, but he did do so. He did steroids. Also.

Yes. Yes. He's a lot of guys. Yeah. He's everything. He tried it all. Okay. Hank. Okay. I have two. Yes. There's a big one there. There's a big one. Yeah. Is there? Yeah. Really big one. He's big in his name. Yep. You would never pick him. But you could maybe save your draft. I will go. There's honestly two guys. Yeah. There's two. There's three. Yeah. There's three guys. There's three guys you could pick. I should we give a girl? Should we give Hank five?

Five picks? No. If he agrees to take Manipop, he ain't no more. No, I'll take Manier Mirras. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. That was the one I was debating with with the way he got caught was very funny. He was taking like a female fertility drug, right? Yeah. Yeah. And they had a system. I think he just forgot. He said he took his wife's by mistake. No, but they had a system and they talked about it the guy that did it. They had a system to kind of

get by the testing. That was foolproof. Many Ramirez just forgot and like took it on the wrong day. Came in. Got tested. Got got busted. He took the pill on the wrong day. Yeah. He's an idiot. Yeah. And then I will go with... ...we're Brian James. Oh. Oh. Interesting. Interesting. Very interesting. That's a fun one. Hater of the year. Hater of the year. Okay. Probably you're not going to get any LeBron fans. Yeah. There are many. The Browns' sexuals are not going to like that one.

I got a pick. I mean, how is he known on steroids? Let's just think. I'm not debating that. I'm just saying... I'm not throwing a flag. That's probably an honorable... Yeah, I mean, that's probably an honorable mention. Yeah. I have a pick that I... I don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on. Shall we let him in? No. I know where you're going. And I would take this. Yeah. I will take this if you don't. All right. Fine. I will. Pay Manning's wife. Yep. That was my fourth pick.

I had him. That was my fourth pick. All-edge. All-edge. I paid Manning's wife. That was that was going to be that I almost took it one one. It was always a fun one. I thought about it one one. That was going to be my last pick. Yeah. Yep. Good pick. Thank you. I would have done it. It would have done it. It would have done it. It would have done it. Yeah. People forget. A legend. Yeah. But yeah, that was a hilarious story. Very funny. They said we're not so in pain, did it?

No. No. His wife is a steroid. My wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury. Yep. Wanted to win a Super Bowl. Wanted to win a second one. Okay. Is my last pick? Yeah. I'm going to take Secretariat. I knew you were going to. Secretariat. Some would say the greatest athlete of all time. Yeah. But it's hard. It was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretariat definitely on steroids. Randy Moss. White Randy Moss.

Agreed chances are very, very high that secretariat was doing steroids. Yes. Dirty horse. That's why flight lines to go. Yep. Flight line is to go. Okay. Max, your last pick. I really wanted Peyton Manning's wife. That's upsetting to me. Oh, wow. Clip that. There is another wife. But you already know who you already you could get the couple. Roger Clemens. No. I don't need that. That was not as famous as it was. Although there was the picture shoot. There's a by the pool.

Yeah. There's a big one out there. I mean, I'll just go with big poppy. But I don't know what I'm thinking. I was taking Tiger Woods. Did he? I mean. There you could make the argument. Yeah. A marion. I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever. Yeah. All right. So, so Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions. Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian Cushion. Okay. Okay. All right. Jerik Robbis. Terrible pick. Okay. Billy football. You'd rather have.

No. Yeah. Liver King. Liver King's a good one. I thought about. Tail of the one. Nah. There's nothing in his pot. No one goes. Thal Cogan. I had whole Cogan. I thought about it. Yeah. Decent. But I had so rather Brian Cushion. What about Dr. Dre? Didn't even know he'd do it on steroids. What about, I actually think when I think football steroids, Bill Romanowski. You're old. Okay. Oh, yeah. That's right. He had a suitcase. I thought about. He broke the fucking faith.

He brought to my teammates face. It's the long. The long. I had Ivan Drago. Who won fictional. Yeah, but like it's no, there's nothing wrong with wrestlers or actors taking steroids. We're not saying there's nothing wrong with anyone taking steroids. No, I know, but it's like it's. It's. What about the boss? Would you take the boss? When you think steroids, you think of rule-breakers, not just like guys like a jack. Would you take the boss over, Brian Cushion? I don't know.

Tony Mandrake. No. You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? No, I definitely. Yeah. I think he's a jack. No, okay. Joe Rogan. I'm going to come. Joe Rogan was another one that I thought about. Would you take Joe Rogan over? For Christchurch. No, no. Tom Scorer. I like Brian Cushion's a good pick. Like when you, no, I think when you see the name Brian Cushion, you instantly think steroids. Buster Rhymes. Is he on steroids? Yeah, he's fucking swole, man.

CT. You sound like CT is a good one. Yeah, CT is a good one. Also, what's his name? Wes. Yep. Wes was a fucking classic steroid. He was a skinny ass. Fucking, then he came back, roided out that one season. Said he had over he was under companies. He had a hundred companies and then someone figured out he was just like he had he just invested in like a mutual fund. Yeah. And so he had a hundred companies. Yeah, Eric Kanye. Kanye was he was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case.

His name translates to I win. Yeah. Deandre Hopkins. Doesn't pop. I like I like Brian Cushion's a good pick. Okay. Macho man. Randy Savage. All wrestlers are on it. Chris Benoit. I thought about Benoit. Yeah. I've been tough on that. That's a tough one. That does not you don't want to. You don't want to. I'm very very. Sarah. I'm not. But he don't want it. You don't want to. You don't want to. I don't. You don't want to. You don't want to vote on that guy. Undeniable. Undeniable steroid.

Yeah, for sure. Ben Johnson the runner. Yeah. To be honest, did you know that I had no idea about anything of Chris Benoit until our coworker, my career or a t-shirt that that said that had his name on it? Yeah. I can't believe that. I had no idea who he I had no idea of any of that story. I bought a shirt for one of my friends one time, but a crisp and raw cross face, crippler shirt. Yeah. And I thought it was funny. And then we both realized he's never going to wear it.

Yeah, no. One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun because Aaron Rodgers said he'd been a year's salary that that's right. Brian was clean. Yeah, that was a good one. That's good. They owned a restaurant together. Raphael Palmero. Yeah, yeah. It's just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and said, let me be very clear. Yep. And then it turns out that did it.

Brady Anderson is another one that wouldn't play on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like eight. I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year. Yeah. And it was literally like 18, 18, 18, 50, 18. And he's just like played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year. Yep. Jewels. Jewels. I had jewels on my list. Yeah. It jewels on my list too. I didn't want to I'm not going to say the person I was about to say. What are you going to say? Because it's speculative.

It's recurring guests on the show. It's a very nice guy. Oh no. Very, very nice. Text it to me. Jerry. I'll text it to you. Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids. Yeah. Jimmy Gropalo. I forgot. I forgot Jimmy G. Just got busted for using PEDs. Yeah. Those were some really bad PEDs. Yeah. The Blake. No. No. Come on. Brooks. No. No. He would never do that. I'm trying to think who else I have on my list. Um, yeah. Most of my names are all like I didn't have many. Oh yeah.

Who was it? No, he didn't do it. He probably didn't do it. I'm so calm. Carl Lewis was he? Carl so Carl Lewis race. Carl Everett. Carl Lewis won three gold medals. I think he won the 100 meter dash. Three Olympics in a row. And they got me don't brace. That'd be 12 years. And then he got the adult. No one can win the Olympics three years in a row. The 100 meter dash. It'll don't. We didn't bolt to it. Probably, but he's a freak. Tom fornelli. Yes. Tom. Yeah, he does. Does steroids. For sure.

Does. He's have you see his balls? Like ticktax. Good list, though. I feel good about it. Very good. Good about it. Who you're for again? Lance Armstrong. Brian Cushing. Great pick. Mayer Miraz. We'll run. I mean, how? It's good list. The hang is for sure going to tweet out like a video of Brian Cushing, like bashing his skull tomorrow morning. Or just like, oh, been worth Starbucks cup. Is this for chicks? Yeah. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Good show, boys.

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