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Pangolin: The Conservation Podcast

Join host Jack Baker as he explores under-appreciated conservation stories! Featuring interviews with the pioneering conservationists at the forefront of wildlife protection, the show promises to highlight every story – no matter how small, strange, or unexpected! 🦜 Follow us everywhere: @PangolinPodcast | Featured in BBC Wildlife Magazine 🌿
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Why I Almost Quit My PhD & What Coming So Close To Burn Out Taught Me (Pangolin Holiday Special 2025)

In today's episode Jack looks back on 2025 and reflects on the highs and lows of the year. He discusses why he came so close to quitting his PhD and what some time away from the work taught him about community, resilience and loving himself. Jack also makes some resolutions for 2026 and gives some information on what is coming up on the podcast this year! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

Jan 05, 202643 minSeason 10Ep. 158

119. World Lemur Day 2025! (with Abby Ross & Jhoanny Rasojivola from TDARFAC)

Happy World Lemur Day! This year we are celebrating with two amazing speakers from The Dr Abigail Ross Foundation for Applied Conservation - Abby Ross & Jhoanny Rasojivola! This dynamic duo are here to discuss reforestation, the challenges of conservation, the development of a new community hospital, how they are creating a new home for lemurs rescued from the pet trade, and how conservation only works if it is an equitable and just process. We also chat about the bizarre and beautiful frogs...

Oct 31, 20251 hr 11 minSeason 10Ep. 157

118. Chasing Sunlight (with Mark David Boden & Fennella Humphreys) [Recorded Live at the National Museum Cardiff]

Welcome to the final episode of ‘Songs of the Skies’! Today I am joined by Mark Boden and Fennella Humphries to discuss 'Chasing Sunlight'! This incredible piece of music tells the story of the Arctic Tern, and how it takes part in one of natures greatest and most epic quests! First, we will hear about Mark’s time learning from these birds on the Isle of May and Anglesey, and how that translated into song. Then Fenella will explain how she brought that music to life! Since this is the last episo...

Jul 12, 202527 minSeason 10Ep. 156

117. Capturing the Joy of Birding on Film (with Isha Crichlow & Lynn Henderson) [Recorded Live in Newport]

It is time for the third episode of 'Songs of the Skies'! Today, I am joined by Lynn Henderson and Isha Crichlow, two of the amazing musicians from Sinfonia Cymru. They are here to discuss the personal significance of bringing their loves of nature and music together. Alongside this, they also produced a lot of the visuals which were displayed behind the performers at the concert, so we are going to hear about how they really captured the magic and excitement of nature on film. Useful Links Don'...

Jul 09, 202543 minSeason 10Ep. 155

116. Hope is the Thing with Feathers (with Joy Becker and Darren Gallacher)

Welcome back to ‘Songs of the Skies’, our series celebrating the intersection of music and conservation! Today I am joined by Joy Becker and Darren Gallacher to discuss their piece, 'Hope is the Thing with Feathers'. Sharing its name with the Emily Dickinson Poem, this performance told the stories of birds in a really exciting, emotive, and hopeful way that left the audience in awe. We are going to explore where the inspiration for this piece came from, why telling this story was so important to...

Jul 05, 202546 minSeason 10Ep. 154

115. Songs of the Skies (with Caroline Tress from Sinfonia Cymru)

This episode delves into 'Songs of the Skies,' a unique concert by Sinfonia Cymru blending classical music with environmental conservation. Host Jack Baker and CEO Caroline Tress discuss the concert's inspiration from birdsong and declining bird populations, held at the National Museum Cardiff. The event aimed to foster hope and accessible engagement with nature, featuring collaborations with the Oasis One World Choir to explore themes of migration and unity.

Jul 02, 202531 minSeason 10Ep. 153

114. How to Build Community & Create Safe Spaces for LGBTQ+ People (with CJ Greco, Teen Programs Manager at Lincoln Park Zoo) [Pangolin Pride]

Today Jack is joined by CJ Greco to explore how to create inclusive, safe spaces for LGBTQ+ people in nature. Jack and CJ discuss the challenges they have faced, how to deal with difficult questions and how they go about inspiring the next generation of conservation leaders. This is the final episode of this year's #PangolinPride celebration. Thank you all so much for your love and support. Please make sure and use the # on socials to send love to all of our amazing guests, they are such wonderf...

Jun 23, 20251 hr 17 minSeason 9Ep. 152

113. The Nuance of Songbird Conservation (with Alex Berryman, Senior Red List Officer for BirdLife International) [Pangolin Pride]

Today I am joined by Alex Berryman, Senior Red List Officer for BirdLife International and member of the IUCN SSC Asian Songbird Trade Specialist Group! We talk about Alex's journey to birds and how everything from red list assessments to the conservation of songbirds needs a nuanced and thoughtful approach! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

Jun 22, 20251 hr 10 minSeason 9Ep. 151

112. Finding a Healthy Balance - Volunteering, Learning and Working in the Conservation Sector (with Ruairidh Alexander - MRes Student & Volunteer with RZSS) [Pangolin Pride]

Today I am joined by the absolutely brilliant Ruairidh Alexander! Ruairidh is currently undertaking an MRes at Napier University, and works part time as a tutor. However, they also find the time to volunteer for the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland. Ruairidh and I discuss how we can balance having a full time job and being invested and engaged in conservation! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

Jun 16, 202553 minSeason 9Ep. 150

111. What is Queer Ecology? (with Allison Payne & Aspen Ellis from the University of California, Santa Cruz) [Pangolin Pride]

Today I am joined by Aspen Ellis and Allison Payne from the University of California, Santa Cruz! We are talking about sea birds, wind farms, elephant seals and the importance of teaching Queer Ecology! If you don’t know what Queer Ecology is, don’t worry, this incredible duo explain it all! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

Jun 09, 202554 minSeason 9Ep. 149

110. Intersectional Environmentalism & the Power of Community! (with Isaias Hernandez, QueerBrownVegan) [Pangolin Pride]

I am so excited to kick off this year's #PangolinPride with someone who I have admired for a very long time – Isaias Hernandez. You may know Isaias for their groundbreaking work as ‘QueerBrownVegan’. It was an honour to sit down and ask them about how they tell environmental stories, how their life led them to this career, and what inspires them! Thank you so joining us for another amazing Pride Month series! Make sure to share your thoughts on social media using #PangolinPride 💚🏳️‍🌈 Useful L...

Jun 02, 202558 minSeason 9Ep. 146

Announcing 'Songs of the Skies' & Pangolin Pride 2025!

Pangolin is coming to Cardiff! I will be on stage interviewing composers, musicians, and conservationists at an incredible concert hosted by Sinfonia Cymru. You can get your tickets here: https://sinfonia.cymru/programme/songs-of-the-skies-world-environment-day/ Also... PANGOLIN PRIDE IS BACK! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

May 28, 202510 minSeason 8Ep. 145

109. International Chameleon Day 2025 (with Tim Eppley, Chief Conservation Officer for Wildlife Madagascar)

May 9th is International Chameleon Day! This year we are celebrating with Tim Eppley, the Chief Conservation Officer of Wildlife Madagascar! We chat about some of the most exciting developments in the world of chameleon conservation, as well as how you can get involved in their protection. We also chat about an amazing range of incredible creatures - including Panther Chameleons and Globe-Horned Chameleons! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

May 07, 202548 minSeason 8Ep. 144

108. Youth Governance & the Mystical, Magical World of the Hedgehog! (with Lyndon Howson from the Chester Zoo Youth Board)

Today I am joined by Lyndon Howson to discuss the importance of youth governance in the conservation field. Lyndon is an accomplished conservationist, who has worked with the Chester Zoo Youth Board, authored his own novel, and spearheaded a hedgehog conservation campaign. He is fantastic and I am so glad you get to hear all about it absolutely brilliant work! We discuss what the Youth Board does, how you can get involved in youth governance, and the weird and wonderful world of Hedgehogs! Usefu...

Apr 30, 202553 minSeason 8Ep. 143

I Am A Changemaker: My Journey in Nature Podcasting! [Part of the Conservation Changemakers' Toolkit]

I recently collaborated with Chester Zoo on something really exciting, their Changemakers' Toolkit! This incredible resource teaches you everything you need to know about how to make waves in the conservation space. This bonus episode is a snippet of the course that I produced on podcasting - I really hope you enjoy! Make sure and check out the whole course below... Episode Description: Hello and welcome to the Chester Zoo Conservation Changemakers’ Toolkit! My name is Jack Baker and in this epi...

Apr 21, 202525 minSeason 8Ep. 143

107. The Chester Zoo Changemakers' Toolkit (with Emma Greenwood - Youth Voice & Climate Champion)

I recently collaborated with Chester Zoo on something really exciting, their Changemakers' Toolkit! This incredible resource teaches you everything you need to know about how to make waves in the conservation space. Here to discuss the project is Emma Greenwood, a passionate youth voice and climate activist! Emma is incredible! She was a Young Member of Parliament, co-founded 'Youth Strike 4 Climate Manchester', and is currently developing a climate action app for young people to help address cl...

Apr 07, 202551 minSeason 8Ep. 142

106. Bringing Beavers Back to London (with Sean McCormack from the Ealing Beaver Project) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]

Welcome to the fourth special episode recorded liveat Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by Sean McCormack from the Ealing Beaver Project to discuss their efforts to bring beavers back to London! Jack and Sean discuss how this project came to be, the challenges it has faced, and the many successes that it has already seen! Plus, the duo take a moment to discuss Sean's favourite under-appreciated bird - the Dunnock! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠...

Mar 17, 202528 minSeason 8Ep. 141

105. Conserving Africa’s Vultures (with Tom Morath from the Hawk Conservancy Trust & Nature's A Hoot) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]

Welcome to the third of four special episodes recorded live at Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by the host of ‘Natures a Hoot’, Tom Morath, to discuss the wonderful world of Vultures. They discuss the joys of working with Egyptian Vultures, the challenges of protecting the Lappet-faced vulture, and the Poison Response Action Campaign which has been saving vultures across the Kruger National Park! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠...

Mar 10, 202525 minSeason 8Ep. 140

104. The Legend of the Iberian Lynx (with Carmen Rueda from CBD Habitat Foundation & The Lynx Connect Project) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]

Carmen Rueda from the Lynx Connect Project discusses the conservation efforts for the endangered Iberian Lynx. She explains the importance of community involvement, the critical role of rabbits in the lynx's survival, and the challenges of managing an expanding population. The discussion highlights the successful recovery of the species from near extinction and the ongoing work to ensure its future.

Mar 03, 202526 minSeason 8Ep. 139

103. Rewilding the Greater Côa Valley (with Pedro Prata from Rewilding Portugal) [Recorded Live @ Global Birdfair 2024]

Welcome to the first of four special episodes recorded live at Global Birdfair 2024. Today, Jack is joined by Pedro Prata from Rewilding Portugal to discuss their work in the Greater Côa Valley! Jack and Pedro discuss the importance of coexistence between people and wildlife, how the production of shoes has been assisting rewilding efforts, and how we can conserve Portugal's Wolves, Lynx, Black Vultures and Egyptian Vultures! Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on...

Feb 24, 202528 minSeason 8Ep. 138

102. Are You Team Moo Deng or Team Pesto? (with CJ Greco, Host of The Birdy Bunch Podcast & Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo) [Pangolin Holiday Spectacular 2024]

It is time to settle the biggest and most controversial debate of the year, are you #TeamMooDeng or #TeamPesto?! To fight it out, I am joined by the Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo, the host of the Birdy Bunch Podcast and one of the NAAEE 30 Under 30 – the incredible CJ Greco! CJ was here last week talking all about their favourite conservation stories of the year. This time, we don’t just argue about hippos and penguins, we also talk about our personal nature highlights from 2024...

Dec 30, 202458 minSeason 7Ep. 137

101. Recapping the Very Best of Conservation in 2024! (with CJ Greco, Host of The Birdy Bunch Podcast & Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo) [Pangolin Holiday Spectacular 2024]

It is time for the annual PANGOLIN HOLIDAY SPECTACULAR! This year, I am joined by the Teen Programs Manager for the Lincoln Park Zoo, the host of the Birdy Bunch Podcast, and one of the NAAEE 30 Under 30, the incredible CJ Greco! We are going to talk a little bit about their work, their love of puns, and how they came to be one of the BEST environmental educators I know! We are of course also going to recap all of the best conservation and nature news of the year! So, we are talking Scottish Wil...

Dec 23, 202451 minSeason 7Ep. 136

100. Celebrating the Top 10 Most Under-Appreciated Creatures in the World! (with Robi, Emma, Alicia, Connor, Steph, Natasha, Indy, Tasnia, Toryn, Tomi, Franca, Rae & Jodi)

Welcome to the 100th Episode of Pangolin: The Conservation Podcast! I cannot believe that we are finally here, and so we are going to spend today celebrating. Firstly, we are going to look back at the last 4 years and reflect on what it means to be here. Secondly, we are going to be ranking the world’s most under-appreciated and misunderstood creatures. Finally, I will be saying a HUGE thank you to everyone who has made this incredible journey possible! Obviously, no celebration is complete with...

Dec 09, 20241 hr 38 minSeason 7Ep. 135

Greetings from Pittsburgh: The NAAEE Conference 2024 Recap!

The great Pennsylvanian poet Taylor Swift once asked, “are there still beautiful things?”. The NAAEE Conference in Pittsburgh proved the answer is a resounding YES! I was lucky enough to be able to attend the North American Association for Environmental Education Conference in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania from the 6th-9th of November 2024! I met the most incredible people, made the most wonderful friends, and learned more than I ever could have dreamed of. It was constructive, challenging, enlighten...

Nov 24, 202446 minSeason 7Ep. 134

99.5. World Lemur Day 2024! (with Lynne Venart, Director of the Lemur Conservation Network)

It is one of the best days of the year - World Lemur Day! To celebrate, Jack is joined by the Director of the Lemur Conservation Network, Lynne Venart, to discuss all of the most recent progress in Lemur conservation. There are so many incredible, exciting, progressive, and brilliant things going on across Madagascar (and the rest of the world) to help protect these amazing animals! This includes card games, bioacoustics work, reforesting, education programmes, and new camera trapping projects! ...

Oct 24, 20241 hr 9 minSeason 7Ep. 133

99. Queer is Natural! (with Christine Wilkinson - Conservation Biologist, Carnivore Ecologist & Science Communicator) [Pangolin Pride]

It is the final episode of Pangolin Pride! This time, Jack is joined by the incredible Christine Wilkinson to discuss how being Queer is Natural! Christine is a researcher, advocate and science communicator with a passion for Queer Ecology. So, Jack and Christine talk about their journey into this world, what queer ecology is and why it matters, and some examples of queerness from the natural world! That means they get to discuss... Lizards that reproduce all on their own! Fish who can change se...

Jun 24, 20241 hr 3 minSeason 7Ep. 132

98. Designing Dublin Zoo's Conservation Master Plan! (with Andrew Mooney, Conservation & Research Officer at Dublin Zoo) [Pangolin Pride]

Today we are celebrating Dublin Zoo's Conservation Master Plan! Jack is joined by the brilliant Andrew Mooney to discuss how this came to be, what it contains and how it is aiming to create a complete paradigm shift within the organisation! Jack and Andrew also talk about the IUCN Centre for Species Survival which is based at the zoo and how the organisation is working with all kinds of groups from the public to policy makers to ensure that conservation is always on the agenda. Finally, the duo ...

Jun 20, 202453 minSeason 7Ep. 131

97. This Episode is Fire! (with Kendall Calhoun, Postdoctoral Researcher at UCLA) [Pangolin Pride]

Today things are heating up as we discuss the impact of fire on wildlife! To do this Jack is joined by the absolutely brilliant Kendall Calhoun, whose work focuses on helping to understand how extreme climactic events, such as Megafires, are impacting wildlife in California. Jack and Kendall discuss climate justice, the ability of different species to respond the changes in fire patterns, and how these fires impact incidences of human-wildlife conflict! Make sure to share your thoughts on social...

Jun 17, 202455 minSeason 7Ep. 130

96. The Story of the Sloth (with Andrés Bräutigam, Veterinary Supervisor at the Toucan Rescue Ranch) [Pangolin Pride]

Today Andrés Bräutigam is joining us to tell the story of the sloth! He teaches us how these amazing animals evolved, what makes them special and how we can protect them. He also discusses the day-to-day challenges of being a wildlife vet, and what it is like to work with a really diverse range of species! Make sure to share your thoughts on social media using #PangolinPride 💚🏳️‍🌈 Useful Links Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast and follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , ...

Jun 13, 20241 hr 3 minSeason 7Ep. 129

95. Providing Knowledge, Power & Hope Through Environmental Education (with Alerick Pacay of 'Seeds of the Ocean', & Tomás Teicher of 'Conciente Colectivo') [Pangolin Pride]

Joining Jack today, are Tomás Teicher (Consiente Colectivo) and Alerick Pacay (Seeds of the Ocean)! They are here to discuss the power and impact of environmental education! The three educators will discuss the importance of equipping young people with skills to help protect the environment; how to engage people in environmental education; some of the things they have learned as educators; what challenges they have faced; how education is different in the UK, Argentina and Guatemala; and how the...

Jun 10, 20241 hr 14 minSeason 7Ep. 129
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