Wake Up Australia with Phil O'Neil - Thursday 19th June

This onto GB four, BC and network stations. This is Wake Up Ostrodia with Pill O'Neill.

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Here we are crawling on our hands and knees wrapped around at Doner towards the weekend. Certainly need it. In Sydney this morning six degrees as I ventured the four feels like three degrees, although Wayne in castle Hill said, Phil, it's minus two in Gunda guy right now, so it would feel even colder. Here we are Thursday morning, nineteenth of June, and it is seven minutes past four. Luke Bona's going to join us in half now. He's been on holiday. It's the Boner Report. He'll take your calls.

I live about thirty kilometers north of Tel Aviv in a city called Hotta Sharon.

Right, what's the situation like there? Now, I'm late to believe that you were down in a bunker before when the sirens went off. You're back up up above that.

Now, yeah, there were about about an hour and a half ago there was notice that there were submissal headed our way, and we get a notice of now ten minute warning that comes on your phone. It's called an emergency alert, and that tells you you've got ten minutes to race into the shelter, and ninety seconds before the missiles are about to hit, there's a siren, so you have to be in the shelter by then close the door and just sit and then you can hear all

And so what kind of bunker is it a communal bunker? Is it one that's set up near you, or is it your own one?

Well, because the house is built after nineteen ninety two, we have our own safe room, what you call a bunker. So we are very lucky. About half of Israel has a bunker, and the other half then either use public bunkers or they at the bottom of the building an

Yeah, I've noticed that. Yeah, I saw some photos of that that that quite a few families do go down to those underground car parks as well. And how does that work? Do you get a situation where it becomes almost too crowded?

No, because they're massive, right, and they're everywhere. So they cleared out a lot of underground car parks and they're massive. They've killed it up the light rail stations to underground so people can sleep there as well. People have opened up, you know, their houses to other people in Tel Aviv. Sometimes they'll write on the pavement outside, you know, please, you're welcome to come. If you're walking by and there's

And so how used to the sirens going off? Has life become now where you are? I mean, it's just because it's happening a lot. Is there still a sense of trepidation that this is going to happen? Or has it become just as I said, a sort of a day to day event.

Well, we're six days into this war and it's very surreal. Everything has closed down. There's no schools, there's no government officers working. You're not allowed to go and work in your office, even if you have a safer Places of entertainment are closed. Beaches are clothes, public swimming pool the clothes. So there's not very much to do, and only essential services are running and only supermarkets are open. So that that sort of adds to the atmosphere of where we are.

It's scary.

Yeah, of course, of course, is there a sense of course that you know the situation there might escalate or you just is everybody just taking it one moment at the time.

I think we're just living from one siren to the next at the moment and trying and hoping that there's not a lot of damage and there's no more loss of life from outside. And I don't think that we're really worried, you know, about what will be. We've just got to keep going. It's the emergency regulations have been set to take to be enforced until the thirtieth of June, so that's still two weeks away, and we're just updated, you know, as it happens.

And so how good is the media information that you're getting? Is it really clear? Is it really precise? Do you have a really good idea or a good feeling that you know exactly what's going on.

In terms of what's happening here we're the missile landing and what's happening, yes, for sure, and the media on top of it you understand. Actually you know if something is close to you, then you know it's fallen near you or it's been intercepted near you. What's happening over in Iran? And we're getting reports of what is happening, what the results are of attacks, how they're doing it, and why it's happening, and what the target is and

How are things like supplies in supermarkets and things like that. Do you run short of supplies?

At first there was a shortage of milk, what went with milk, bread and toilet paper, but they restocked pretty quickly and no, it's people bought what they had to buy, and they know that supermarkets will be open. That's an essential service. So there's no real panic now about anything.

But how do you have some sense of normality because and especially at the moment too, because I mean this area also has a history of course, where there's always something going on that could, you know, turn into a complete disaster. How do you keep a sense of normality on a day to day.

Basis, Well, you don't really if you've been up three or four times during the night. The other night there was a missile at eight o'clock, twelve o'clock, at two thirty, and five thirty, so you basically didn't sleep at night. And for families with little kids, they're just putting their kids in the concrete bunker, whether it's a private one or a public one. And the kids that's trying to sleep through the night. But the adults they're up and down,

And how do you explain to the kids what's going on? Do they have you know? Do you try and protect them from as much information as possible or have you found that most people have tried to be honest with the kids.

No, I think most people are very honest with the kids. Yeah, we're only sixteens into this war, but we've been in bomb shelters in and out for the last twenty months. I must say that these last few days are more of them, and the booms allowed that, and so it's a bit scarier. Most kids are sleep through the night, so they won't hear that. But really, with social media and media today, really kids, except for very little kids, they sort of know what's going on.

And can I ask how old your kids are? How many you have?

Well, I've got four kids, and my oldest is my oldest is twenty nine, and my youngest is twenty and my youngest is still serving her compulsory military service in the Israeli Army and the others are in reserve duty. But at the moment, they're not haven't been called up, right of course.

And obviously that's something that you're concerned about all the time as well.

Yep, that's correct, That is correct. There are a lot of people that have been called up, a lot of my relatives, my family that lived here, Nitha's nephew's cousins, and so we're all in contact. We're actually all in contact. Every time there's a siren, we check on each other and we just coined there by day, hour by hour.

At the moment, all right, Well, our thoughts are with you, and our hearts are with you as well, Lisa, because I mean it must be none of us can really get obviously a proper comprehension of what life must be like for you on a day to day basis. So our thoughts are with you and all the best. Thank

And now on Wake Up Australia News today.

Starting in Sydney two GB Dusty Fitzpatrick, Morning to you, my friend. What have we got going on?

Phil? Good morning to you. This year's State of Origin series has been sent to a designer, with Queensland securing victory. In Perth, the Marons edged out the Blues twenty six points to twenty four. Donald Trump hasn't ruled out the United States joining Israeli strikes on Iran. The President told reporters he may do it, he may not do it. Iran and Israel continue to trade strikes and firefighters working to contain a blaze at a factory in Sydney's Inner West.

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Now on Wake Up Australia each time for the.

How are you my friend?

Yeah?

Look, I've done a lot in radio, but calling football is at one of them. I know my limitations and don't you dare go there. I shan't be doing that. As the Big Man would say.

Oh lads, Clint Eastwood would say, a man's got to know his limitations.

What's going on? What we have here is a failure to communicates exactly.

It's a different one. That was Paul Newman. So you've just had your daughter get married. You had a nice little so journ. We enjoyed your escapades on the Instagram, so I hope that was enjoyable for you.

It was a great day and it was terrible weather all day and then about an hour before the ceremony, the skies opened and the blue sky came out. It was just a really good day of family and friends getting together. She's married a beautiful boy. I love him to death. And so there you are one down, one to.

Go, all right, Not that you're counting. What do you want to talk about this week?

I had a really interesting comment station on my podcast Bona Fire with Luke Bona The other day with a bloke that you talk to fairly regularly.

I understand Shane Oliver Ye find it's the chief economist with AMP.

And people would listen to Shane and think, gee, he's a bit of a stiff, he's a square, he's an accountant, he's an economist. No, next time you talk to Shane, try and find a bit of extra time up your sleeve, Phil, because this guy is a character and he loves his music. And we got onto the topic of how we listen to music today. Now Shane and I are the same vintage. You're the same vintage. We're all about the same time. And we grew up listening to albums. When we were little kids.

We probably bought.

Forty fives singles, and then maybe when we got a bit of pocket money and we reached high school, you'd lash out and you'd buy a whole album.

And I loved the whole vinyl album thing. I miss it. I miss it a lot.

And you drop the needle side one, track one and you listen to it all the way through, just like the artist and the producer intended. And now listening to music, well, it's very very easy to do through apps like Spotify. And I'm not picking on Spotify because I use it.

It's handy.

I've got a Spotify playlist that I play in the car, and I've hand picked cherry picked my favorite songs and they all come up in the row for me. But

What do you make of it, philm You'll hear the same age as me.

That's right, but yeah, and you're absolutely right. And also there've been a complete failure of rock bands on the music charts. It's all about solo artists. They've been hardly any in fifteen years. I think there's been about two. But that was the thing. It was part of it, you know, it was a narrative, the beginning song and the end song, everything was even though it wasn't a concept album, it was put in that order by the artists. So you go on a journey and you're absolutely right.

It's a shame.

I mean, there is a comeback of vinyl, but I mean it'll never come back CDs or the end of vinyl, and now you've got digital downloading and that's the way.

Things are going.

And I think it's a shame for the artists because you know, Spotify, while it's given a lot of artists a big platform, artists are missing out. I mean, back in the day, it was album and record sales that drove their revenue and then that led to touring. Now you look at the amount of bands that tour now, it's very very hard, very good made of mine. One of my best mates is Michael Hope who runs Hope of State in the Hunter Valley and he has big concerts.

I'll let you have a drink of water while I just quickly pick up this. And the thing is that bans these days, Luke, you know, the only way they're going to get the money that they used to have is to tour, because there is no money in any thing else. And you're right. The touring now also has to be scaled back to such an extent that it's almost like a do it yourself experience. But the only way the bands can make money is to go on

Yeah, you know, but we don't know the finances.

We don't know how much percentage the actual musicians are getting out of all of this, because there's a lot of people wanting a piece of that pie. But it just got me thinking, what was the first album you actually went and bought? Because I remember I was gifted led Zeppelin two Christmas Day in nineteen seventy. I skipped one and I got led Zeppein two and that put me on a journey. And of course led Zeppron four is still one of the biggest selling albums of all time,

And I just wonder how many.

Of our listeners around our vintage remember going out and buying their first album.

I wonder what it was and do they still listen to it in its.

Entirety one, three, one, eight seven three. That was part of the experience going to a record shop. And I remember I used to hang out in the record shop too, and you'd meet people back in the day, you know, you'd say, okay, I'll meet you with sounds and whatever it happened to be back in the day that was before mobile phones.

That's right.

But Shane Oliver, who puts an economic slant on all of this, had had this to say to me on my podcast yesterday.

Oh this is sorry. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready for that.

I have this problem when I listened to stuff on Spotify, I don't value it same degree. So if an artist puts out like this, groups and bands that I like, and I'll go and buy their CD or and the old days a record or a cassette or something, and then I would I would look at it and look at the pictures, and look at the write the songs, and get obsessed with it and listen to each song

And I think that's kind of sad in a way. There, you got funny. You were pointing out me.

Has Spotify sanitized the way we listen to music and has it taken away the wonderful experience of listening to an album, as you used to say, drop the needle and let it go through and experience the whole thing. Has Spotify taken away some of the romance attached to purchasing music.

There's my question.

Yeah, one three, one eight seven three. And also let us know about the first record you brought here with Boner, Luke Boner and the report. The other thing too, is that you know, if you're buying something off Spotify and it's on your phone, you don't have anything. You never because music's so disposable, you never actually have anything that you can hold in your hand, even like a CD.

You know. And before we bought albums when we were little, we bought forty five. So remember my first forty five was the Seekers, all of their own.

So there you are, one three, one eight seven three. Give us a call right now. In the Boner Report, had it is sixteen minutes to five. Luke Booner joins us with the Boner Report, you were talking about people's first records. I've got some texts that came through. Jeanette said. First one was bridge over Troubled Water, can't go past. Yeah, Simon Garffer, what a magnificent album that is Patrick's is nineteen ninety nine. In nineteen eighty nine, in fact, be

You want to hear a bit of trivia, go on, because back in my music jock days, where was I to.

Well f and young And you remember Phil.

Back in the day, the record companies would send you samples and you get to hear the singles before they were hits. And Circus Animals Col Chisel had come out and the single was Forever Now and I was always.

A huge B side sampler, So I flip it over. Do you know what the B side to forever an Now was?

Okay, flame Trees?

It was bow River.

I heard bow River and I thought that's better than the A side, and so I kept playing bow River. I got into trouble from the program director, and then every time I go into a pub where they had a jukebox, I'd always choose side B. And Ian Moss once said to me, Boner, you made bow rivery hit.

Where's your money for this.

I'm claiming it. I'm claiming it.

Let's get to the phone films. On the phone you're on with Lyck Booner. Phil, Let's talk about your first record mate.

Yeah, my first record I bought was called Hits of the Blitz by Zira Lynn.

Oh God bless we'll meet again.

Hey, well made again and padam and your and all that sort of. Yes for the army background.

Yes, yes, great album.

I think I remember going in and buying it.

And what about the smell of the vinyl and the orange cloth that you used to buy it. It's a very gently wipe it in a circular motion. Did you have on your on your record player? Did you have a dust bug?

Did you have a dust bug later on?

I did, but in the early times no, which was very you know, and it took me nearly a whole week's pay to buy it.

Yes, yeah, and you had a relationship with that album.

Oh I've still got it.

Yeah, good God bless what you do.

All my albums all from the early sixties and fifties. I think the first one I must have got I think The Old Peace came to a Australia in about fifty four.

In the and do you know what?

Yeah, that's interesting. I think the closest that you and I will get to via Lynn would be a reference to Pink Floyd from the Wall album. So let's get to Bernardi's on the phone on North Rocks. Are I Bernie? You're on with Luke Boner? What was your first record?

My first record that I've got is Crescendo by patam or tATu mt at the Piano and it was originally passed when on as a special at the shop for seven seven dollars ninety five and they've reduced that. I've got the actual price at my receias hust and Pay, and it was five dollars. And I've got some ball here.

You're going to have Luke Boner and coming over and having a record party.

I think I think she's sitting on a fortune. I think there's a lot of money there. People are paying big money for albums in good condition, especially if the cover's in good Nick.

That's it exactly right. Let's get to Margaret, who's on the phone too, Margaret that's talked to Luke Boner about your Margaret.

Good Night link. I love your show. Always get up early and listen to it. I can't remember the names of the album, but I bought two records at the same time when I think I was thirteen fourteen, and I thought one of the Beatles forty five, and I also bought Shirley Bessie. I love two very different types of me.

You think this is Margaret?

Can I ask you what record store did you buy from? Do you remember did you Was it in the suburbs or did you.

Go into the city.

Yeah, no, we used to go into Eatles.

Was one of them Beatles?

Yeah?

It's gone now there No, I don't think so.

I know.

I do know of the guy who used to own it. He saw it many many years ago.

There you go.

I'm trying to think of the guy's name. We used to as teenagers go over to one of the girls places and play these records and dance around and sing his names just escape me. But we used to love playing and you'll know who I'm talking about, Summer Holiday and all those old hips, cliff Ridgid Cliff Richard. Yeah, we used to love those songs and we used to go around and have sessions of singing all the songs and dancing around. And we had one of the portable

Hey, do you remember the k Tell compilation albums that used to come out It's super Bad and you had a k Tell record selector that was on side remember that film.

Yeah, that's right, some plastic thing that essentially.

And you read with all your albums in it.

Because I always used to slide out of the side of.

It and it never worked. It was like the game mouse trap. It never worked.

Yeah.

I've got many many CDs now with a lot of those old complements, pations and the you know, the records for the now CDs, lots of the old ones, donating them to two GB.

Well do bring them over here.

Yeah, I will do all right, Thank you very much, And you have a lunchy day. And I do like to listen to you in the morning.

I really like you.

You know that you're upfront.

Nice to talk to you, Margaret. There you go. Margaret will also be able to go and have a listen to your podcast too. Another couple of texts that are coming through here. This is from Warren. First record was Rock and Roy Music nineteen seventy six and he bought it a b Croft Records store. That was a double album. Yeah, the old double albums. That was something else, wasn't Oh now a.

Double album that was something special. Yellow Brick Road, famous double album Frampton Comes Alive, Peter Frampton, remember that nineteen seventy six.

Yeah, yeah, do you feel like we do?

That was a famous double album and the song remains the same, the led Zepp Madison Square Recordings double album. So, I mean that was a real investment, wasn't it. And you were definitely committed to the artist if you bought a double album.

Well that said, and of course, you know back in those days, you know, we didn't have a lot of money, all of us, you know, I'm you, I'm talking about our listeners as well, So it was a real treat to go out and buy a record. So you'd have to get the plastic cover that it went into, you know.

And you know, and the other thing about buying albums was it you got the lyrics you could read along with the words for the first time.

You didn't get that on a single.

You bought the album and chances are it had all the lyrics there as well. I remember reading along to all the words to Sergeant Peppers and I thought it was absolutely fantastic.

You didn't have to guess the words.

I should have mentioned before that when we were talking about Cliff Richard that he's touring too. He's going to be touring Australia, I think later on this year.

I think he's the only artist in the world that's had number one or top ten hits in the fifties, sixties, seventies. He's nineties, two thousands. It's some incredible record.

Look at that for me. Yeah, I think he's out. I think he's out on his own. Cliff Ridge, it's still touring.

Eh, that's exactly right. Hey, what's coming up on your podcast? Well, I've got you here because I know you want to give that a plug.

Oh, we'll look at it.

There's always a bit of everything that once again, we'll talk about finance with Shane and how this drama between Iran and Israel is going to affect world markets. We'll have a bit of fun with Adam McDonald, the King of Memorabilia, and you never know what's coming up next.

It's called Bona five with Luke Boner.

It's available now, give it the plug. Nice a torture with the Boner Report. Mate, thank you have a terrific weekend. I love to the new family and we'll talk to you next.

Week, Buddy, I can't wait, mate of mister mate cheers take care.

Five minutes to five. So there's our mate, Luke Boner. He will be back next week and of course do toget speaking about old mates. Ben Fordham here after five point thirty this morning and Mike Levy fresh off the back of the Big Core with the Continuous Call team too. Imagine he's going to do the show from Perth today so he would be able to get out I'm not thinking no. Would he be able to get out of bed earlier than usual? Probably? Not knowing Luke, he's probably

That's on the way.

This is.

This on two GB, four BC and network stations. This is wake up Us, Rodya with Phill O'Neill.

Yeah, here we are.

June nineteenth, Thursday morning. Cold feels like three degrees possibly even colder in Sydney, seven minutes past five a head of our good friend. Then for them to GB Sydney. Let's want to get five thirty. Peter Vegan on four BC in Brisbane and Mark Leevy coming up up the nine on two GB. Here's a bit of your opnight news.

And one more for you.

Britain called overnight for reform of the European Convention on Human Rights amid growing domestic criticism that it allows a foreign base court to meddle in sensitive areas of policy such as immigration and deportation rulings. So that's a bit of an update on what you've got going on with

Look right across the country and probably across the western world, probably the last decade or two, these sort of psychological claims in the workplace have gone up a great deal, most specifically in New South Wales. They've quad rupled in the last five years and that's really where it rates to.

Felt bullied, or i felt mistreated, or I've been.

Harassed or I've got looked over in a promotion for personal reasons.

So it's all these sort of things.

And now I'm not saying these things aren't happening, but there's a few trends that are driving this. So one mental health awareness, so yes, people are much more conscious of mental health problems. There's also our relationship with work people. We have more service oriented work, so it's work where we're sitting in on front of a computer, we're interacting with teams. The psychosocial side of work, you could argue, is more pronounced.

It's more about kind of online interactions.

It's more it's how you get on with the team, a lot more subjective stuff. So that's another dynamic. And in line with that, you've had this huge growth with these types of claims you've had. You can also argue there's been a change in our relationship with adversity. So even the way we view adversity, it's probably more people thinking, Okay, the problem, somebody's done this to me. So people have some sort of issue work and they're like, somebody's done

They don't respond quite as well. Now it's a.

Variety of reasons, but what I'm arguing here is what's really going on here is often people feel right did work in some ways, you know, they feel mistreated in some form, and then it really becomes the dynamic is one about justice, resentment.

Even honor and shame.

I feel you don't really think talk about honor shame in Western societies much.

You know, it feels really ancient.

You know, it's kind of warrior or kind of romans or tribes and this sort of stuff.

But in some ways, that's sort of what's going on.

People feel they've been dishonored in a way, and they just get stuck.

They're kind of in exile. They go into a self imposed exile, and.

Then it almost doesn't matter you're throwing them treatments, you're doing counseling, all this kind of stuff. But un till they feel they get some sort of resolution, and again that's a kind of a justice type thing, they just don't get better. So really what I'm arguing here, Phil is we need to think about these claims differently.

So a lot of the debate that's going in early access to treatment.

Yes they do to some extent.

If they do get in to see a psycho, it can help them reappraise.

What's going on for them, Like, whatever issue happened to work, what does.

It mean to them?

Can they readjust can they think of it it differently? So that is useful, But what you really got to work on is can we find interesting ways of mediating workplace disputes rather than it go down this real combative route. What tends to happen is bag they go to some industrial relations commission and it becomes a combat straight away.

I've got two schools of thoughts on this. One is that having been in a situation where I've been bullied at work, and I know the term p TD gets bandied around a lot. We've talked about HR on this show, and how HR is there to essentially protect the employer. There should be some recourse if you've been bullied and you've actually walked away and you know that you have

Now that's an awfully hard thing to do because it's often one person's perception versus another, and they try and we try and get some sort of objective reality, which isn't always which isn't always easy, And there is My profession does probably add to it. Because we've got all these diagnoses, and sometimes they're fairly loose criteria, so people

But I also think sometimes you just want to be heard, don't necessarily want some kind of compensation. You know, most people just want someone to hear their grievances.

Yeah, you're spot on fire. I think that people need to feel acknowledged.

So again trying to think of processes where and again the illegal thing can make it hard where they're so fearful of admitting some sort of liability that modern organizations often can't even allow space where someone gets acknowledged where they're feeling of being mistreated in some way or just being disrespected. Often it's a feeling of disrespect And yeah, what you said is exactly right. Is there some way

I get the impression that HI will panic if somebody goes to them with a complaint about you know, it's usually a boss, but also a fellow employee. First thing they're going to do is think, well, okay, where's this going to leave us? And I think that mentality has got to go out of the equation that you're going to have to have someone whose job is not just to protect the company, but to protect the mental health of the company.

That's true.

I think there's a much more awareness of that psychosocial risk bield.

So you're right, and I think we can handle it better.

But in the most fundamental thing now, arguably the government's going too far in New South Wales.

Whether they're kind of almost trying to shut this out altogether.

Which will hurt a lot of peop people who are genuinely suffering, but it does just raise this issue that you and I are talking about. Well, I think this can be handled better, And much of it is exactly what you said, that there's a legal pathway that is not allowing it's not giving space for just ordinary acknowledgment, you know, just kind of letting someone feel heard, just acknowledging their distress of feeling wronged, and that could potentially save gazillions of dolls absolutely.

And improve all sorts of suffering.

I'm speaking as a layman here. I don't think that you're legally obligated to say to the employee, Okay, you were wronged. That's minefield, which is your terrain. But I think that again, the acknowledgment to the employee going you actually were wronged here, this person is going to apologize to you. We just want you to feel safe in your workplace.

That's exactly right, Phil.

So there's room for new rituals here, new kind of workplace rituals, new kind of legal rituals that marry the mental health with the law.

And I think this is the ideal space of it. Consider what that might look like.

Good to talk to you, mate, Thank you so much, and it's really interesting some of the stuff that you brought there. Doctor Tanvia Ahmet also on two GB, but there the psychiatrist and social commentator talking about the psychological compensation claims. Twenty two minutes past five twenty and six minutes past five getting ready for ben Fordham on two

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You got it.

You're a crazy man. Where do listeners go to take up this offer?

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Do you know what that one is? The extra one that you give people?

Do you know what?

That's a free b jef free that's staring me. I've still got some stuff for you. Jeffrey, got to touch you, my friend, Jeffrey. There, Jeff Cook from nature b dot com. It's nutrition for you to believe in. Okay, it's coming up to nearly five thirty, which means that Ben Fordham is on his way, followed by Mark Levy and Peter Fvegan coming up this morning from five thirty in Brisbane.