Overnights with Phil O'Neil - Thursday 26th June

She'll be taking the questions that you texted me through the week for Doctor Carl, and there's some good ones there too, so we'll talk about that. And she also wants to talk about dog walking injury injuries. That's one

of the things we've got. We have our usual guest Terry Barnes on Leith ban Onsolin too, and it's the Thursday Morning Live Lounge with a song that for the first time will feature a piano or at least a keyboard anyway, So that's coming up for thirteen degrees at the moment in Brisbane, although it feels like ten degrees, and in Sydney nine degrees but it feels like two. That'll probably be due to the wind. There you go, Margaret.

I did the weather on the top of the hour, as you asked me to do, because I am here at your behest and i'd love to have a chat with you. One three one eight seven three is our phone number and the text number zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three if you'd like to email me. It's overnights at two GB dot com. Let's talk about a couple of things that are going on. Well, Donald Trump, I mean, obviously he is always the headline.

He's very good at getting his name out there. He compared the attacks on Iran to Hiroshiva and Nagasaki was talking at NATO. He said, well, just like that, this also ended the war.

also said this when she first got home. We all said, well, a bit of a poison chalice there. You know, I wouldn't want to take that job. And Terry said, no, he thinks he's a bit too old for it now Tony Abbott. And I said, well, he's only any sixties, because you know, Terry knows Tony really, really well. And I said, surely, if there was an opportunity for Tony Abbott to come back and you know, run for Prime Minister again, if there was a way to do it, would he be the right man at the right time,

right now? And Terry seemed to think no, actually, and you'll hear the chat a little bit later on this morning he said that he might be too old for it. I disagree. What do you think let's open up with that one one three one eight seven three or on the text the zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. If he had the opportunity, is the time right for Tony Abbott where it was before it would have been an opportunity for him to step back and be the leader that we need right now. Let

me give you something else. You're gonna love this fantastic talk about on the worst piece of red tape crap I've ever heard about. The City of Sydney councilor is looking to require permits for bins to be stored on the curb when they're not stored on midnight. So basically the move incidentally was passed unanimously at a meeting Monday. Spoke concerns over street light that street side bin smelling bad,

blocking foot and vehicle traffic and attracting animals. So what they've done is they want to get a programm response to systematically and effectively address the issues caused by bins being stored on the street. They said, there are terrace houses that now step straight out onto the footpath. They don't have a backyard and there's nowhere to store it. So in these situations you can ask for permission to have your bin stored on the street. Receptacles left out

after midnight gluttering the streets, making them look messy. And also they're encouraging other people to put the rubbish bins in there or put their rubbish in there as they go past. So the proposed plan listen to. This would be a permit system for people to leave their bins on the street. Homes with no space to leave bins will be given stickers permitting a curbside resting place. In those situations, you can ask for permission they have your bin stored on the street so it doesn't clutter it.

It would be a permit system for people to leave their bins on the street. It's like you know when you if you haven't go any parking outside your house, so you have to park on the street, You've got to get a permit for that. Okay, I'm in favor of that, and I can also see where they're going in terms of blocking the street. But imagine that having to get a permit sticker to put your bin out on the street if it's not bin night. What do

you think about that? One three one eight seven three zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three get involved on the text, but regreat to talk. I'd love to have a chat on the radio too. Would you go as far as to say, oh, I might go and get myself a permit sticker for the bin because I'm going to leave it out the front, or you just leave it out the front and be a radical belief. I don't even know what the fine would be. Maybe they take it, maybe they take a bin away

to teach you a lesson. So what do you think about that? What about Tony Abbott? Is the time right for a return? One three one eight seven three zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three as well? I didn't just fight. By the way, that was the chair moving. Just in case you were wondering, Hello, Kyle, how are you this evening at Edmondson Park? What's going on?

said on the text, how's your toe? It was pretty kind of you to ask, because I put the photo of my what I thought was a broken toe on the Instagram and my wife said, why did you do that? And I said because the listeners asked me to and she said no, they didn't, and I said no they did. Said they weren't interested in your toe, and I said they were. They were genuinely interested in my toe, and

she didn't believe me. So anyway, Susannah, I'm going to take a photo of that text that you've sent me to show to my wife tomorrow after I find out if I'm in trouble or not. Steve says, you know where they can stick their permit? This is the permit for the bins on the street. I mean, come on, it really is red tape, isn't it. And they really got that's all they've got to do. I just want to get into you know, local council, just so I

can sit there and come up with preposterous things. You know, I will just to sit there and yell at clouds because I seem I think that's the place to go, isn't it. I left my bin out a little longer than usual, says Mick, and some clown. But he's dogs number two in my bin. That's funny because Michelle talked about that last night when she sent me a text. She said, ask people if it's okay to put your dog's doodo in somebody else's bin. Well, this happened to Mick,

and he said it was wrapped luckily so too. I don't know who it was. Well you don't what, mate, You know what you can do, Mick, get some DNA on that dog turd and you can probably track him down. Hello, Kim, how are you this morning?

we can eat it. And he can eat six onions and make as many people Dames as he wants.

he's been was politician for many many years. I think he's spent nearly every Christmas going out in the Aboriginal communities. I just think he's a wonderful all around human being.

trying to say to them. You know, I'm trying to say that by that, try and explain what I'm Tony Abbott was trying to say. But he you know, it speaks to people on the level, at their own agenda, at their own level, as opposed to trying to come up with sort of some kind of way to just appease people. And I really like that about it.

of was essentially she was abducted by a UFO. So for me to approach her and go, can you come on the show, she immediately thought, well, hang on, am

I going to be open to ridicule here? She's written books about it, and so I had to go backwards and forwards to go no. You know, the idea of this show and this segment is that you know, you come on, you tell your experience, and we listen to your experience without judgment, without criticism, you know, because I think that should be the way in any conversation if you want to learn. So anyway, she got back to me.

She's got a website called alienexperiences dot net and her name is Nadine and she's kindly agreed to come on tomorrow night's show. So I thought, well, you know what, I can't wait to tell Kim because of me.

their job. And down the track I'm probably going to stab them in the back and try and take their job. So it's not necessarily I don't think it's to be honest, I don't think it's ever all in the interest of the party. It's in the interest of the politician.

do that. You know, it's just I'm going to tell you what you want for the time being so I can get elected and then you know, hopefully three years down the track you'll forget what I promise you.

Trug's comments are an abomination. On the Nagasaki Hiroshima two hundred thousand citizens who were wiped out, and he said that the entire generations of innocent families were wiped out. No Iran bombing was anything like that. Joyce says Phil, I think Labor and Turncoake did so much damage to Tony. I don't think he'd want to come back. And Carol also agrees that Tony Abbott's time has come and gone.

We need younger, more vibrant people, and a doer and a goer, but people don't seem to want to do it. That's the other issue, isn't it, though, Carol. There's just no appetite anymore for people to get into politics. And as from Joy, if voters vote Liberal Party in all the seats, Tony was the leader, So if Libs get more seats than Labor Green's NAT's then that I don't know where this is going, but anyway, basically you're saying

that you would like Tony Abbott. I think from that A lot of times when I go to the texts, it gets into auto spell and we end up in all kinds of trouble. Tom says in the US they vote specifically for the president. They vote separately for their local rep in the House of Representatives. Thank you for that. And also a couple of other texts coming through here, Chris, how are you mating? Chris's one's really long. I'm sure you'll be ringing me a little bit later on this morning.

I felt I would welcome Tony Abbott back as the PM at a heartbeat. Malcolm Turnbull covered in the role and what he did to Abbott was despicable, said Mary. And that's true, and that's what we were saying before when I was having a chat with Penny was that, you know, a lot of these people aren't in it for the party, They're in it for themselves, and if it's a way for them to somehow work a little chess game for themselves to get what they want, then

there's no loyalty to anybody. David, I'm glad you rang. I was talking to John Stanley about how people are spending up to six figures for leg lengthening surgery instead of going to therapy to deal with their height, and you were telling me that you had something that happened to you that made you taller. Is that right, David, good morning.

and there's no cure. And the neurosurgeons have just said, you know, it just looks every quarter four or five years you're going to be needing the major surgery and you just need upkeep with the pain clinic to keep you keep you going.

And then they put their headphones over and then you you know that the ear mups over and then you lie in there and as you well know, you can't move an inch otherwise you'll get a refraction and then it looks like something else that you know that may or may not be happening. So I was lying in there and I immediately knew what i'd done. And for anybody that's never had an MRI, it's like it's like

being in the worst techno disco you've ever been. It's just it's do do do, but it's extremely about and I lay there I thought, oh, and I can't even move an inch to try and stop this. So it was a total rookie mistake. Well, mate, I totally feel for you. I mean, I want to say that you've taken the attention away from my sore toe. So yeah, so thanks for that. You know, I'm not getting any more sympathy now, not thanks to you.

have your company this morning. Here's an email from the Stephen We were talking about Tony Abbott and he says Tony was crucified and would be the best person to lead the Liberals. And I agree, maybe that could be on the table. Another text here, this one from Barbara saying that Tony Abbott wasn't the only person that Turnbull destroyed. First it was Peter King because Turnbull wanted the seat of Wentworth. Next came Brendan Nelson because Turnbull wanted to

be the party leader. Turnbull has formed, says Barbara. JJ says with a leg lengthening. Surely feel your pulling my leg? Well, no, because if it was me doing it, I'd have a lot more money in the bank. And who else is sending me through text here too? Let me just have a look at these and then I'm going to go back to something that I wanted to play for you before, and it was from somebody who was overseas. Here it is David. He says, I'm listening to you from Type

Ai in Taiwan tomorrow. I'll be in Shanghai in China, and I arrived in Shanghai two hours before you start at midnight. You really go around, don't you. You're always on the plane, always off somewhere. This one from Mary, I'd welcome Tony Abbott back in a heartbeat. Turnbull covered the role and what he did to Abbott was despicable. I think I've did that one before. Marian also said where's Bob Menzies when you need him? Mixed said Phil Did I hear you on John Stanley's show before ten pm?

Long bit of audio from you back in the nineteen nineties? I know, because you know John has that segment where they play audio from years gone by, and I have to. I should actually go no, hang on, every time you play audio from me from years gone by, you have to pay me fifty dollars. So at least I can get some kind of royalties on that too. A friend of mine caused a stir at the airport when their gun decided. Their son decided to pick a to pack a toy gun in one of the bags without telling them,

said Joe. When I was a kid, I had this thing. There was a toy and it was a Secret Agent toy in the Secret Agent doll was Joe ninety. And I had a Joe ninety briefcase with one of the secret compartments, and one of the secret apartments had a plastic gun in it. And I remember going through the security and the security guy actually laughing when he'd opened He'd got, oh, I hope you're not going to shoot anybody with this. I mean I was only about sixty

years of age. I can still remember that. Imagine trying to do that these days, though. Would Tony Abbott hold a fire hose? Well, I think he would, and also he'd probably not only because he's also a volunteer, isn't he, So he'd also come out with a bit of soot on him too. Hey, Phil, my local counsel in Sydney is proposing fines if your beIN is out on the curb for more than twenty four hours on Ben Night,

says James, I was talking about that before. I mean, come on, there's so many other things going on at the moment. Do you really think it's important to crack down on things like bin's being out on the street too long or they need a permit? There's so much crap, isn't there? With local counselors? There really is? Like I said, the people that run for local council, really they're just there.

There are people that have been on a hold too long trying to get on talkback radio and they can't see any clouds outside the yell at, so they go, you know what, I'm going to join my local council and make things difficult for everybody. Marion says, what about Chris for PM? Are careful what you wish for there? Okay, you don't want to. You don't want to have that happen. You don't want to what's the expression wave a red rag in front of a bull?

because he's too old. Now, Susan Lee, this is what got me onto It was talking at the National Press Club making an election review, which sounded to me a little bit like an excuse.

too expensive. Okay, well let's sort that out. If there's a monopoly with supermarkets, we'll sort that out. Third thing, can't afford our house? Okay, well let's try and figure that out. Maybe there's issues with you know, too many people, not enough houses, tradees, don't want to get into the business anymore. Okay, three things. Tick them off. Let's go and fix that up to you next week. You know, if you've probably said that, you'd go, oh, call crikey.

They're good, aren't they They're productive. That's the kind of people I'd like to vote for. None of the corporate words, salad speak anymore. Just get to the point, like you know, even Donald Trump would say it, you know, use a couple of profanities. I think what's coming up this morning? And of Brady, the UK correspondent, the host of round Table, will have a catch up with him and talk about the UK report. I read something really interesting that's happening

in the UK. I want to run by him. Doctor Carl's not here this morning, but Bianca no Grady is a freelance science journalist and author. I'm going to call her brainy Bianca because I've given her some of your questions. One of them is just absolutely brilliant. What color is

a mirror? She says she can answer that. So that's on the way after one, and we've got a really packed show taking us all the way through to five thirty this morning, so I hope you can stay with so much great stuff I want to tell you about this morning that I found out about climate change is going to make cheese taste awful, breath has the same signature as your fingerprints, that's amazing. And China has a mosquito size drone. I'll tell you about all that.

You should announce that Jason Morrison is going to be on the show on the weekend doing the overnight show. I don't know how many of your listeners know that, but they'll be very happy, says Paul. I know that, Paul, because I came into work evening and there was Jason Morrison, who I know and I love Jason. He is one of the smartest men in the room. But he also knows talkback really really well, and he's somebody that you know. I talked to it when I was coming to do

talkback a two GB. I said, make give me some advice and he said, don't do it.

And he said, no, I want to get back into the practice of doing it because I'm going to be filling in for Mike Levy and I want to salk to the listeners overnight and have a chat with him. So I'll be doing that this weekend. So that's excellent, that's brilliant for anybody that likes Jason Morrison this weekend. He'll keep you coming and give him a ring as well. He's he is, you know, talk back radio personified. And this text for the lady who's tagging sitting in for

doctor Carl, can you ask a request? And I certainly will, and I'll take your questions. By the way, in just a moment. Our guest host for Doctor Carl is Bianca No Grady, and she's already been given the questions that you sent me on the text, and she's come up with a couple of her own as well. So we'll do that a little bit later on. But you want me to ask her. Can animals get embarrassed? Fantastic? I

imagine they would. I imagine they would, because you know, when you've come into the house and the dog's eaten the cake and you go, Fred, did you eat that cake? And it looks all embarrassed, so I think they would, but I don't know. Maybe they just know that they're in trouble. Another one that came in here from Chris. This is how the election to elections are contrived. Phil.

I was on the lawn in the north of the Parliament entry protesting the proposed carbon labor tax I was photographed, or I photographed I should say, two males from a get up group who was standing behind Tony Abbott, and they had that ditch the witch, the big poster which from memory, Miss Gillard's labor response was to use it as a weapon, declaring male misogyny. I remember that when that happened. Thanks Chris for sending that text through. I

remember when that happened. And the thing is, you can't control what's going on behind you. If somebody's going to stand behind you with a poster like that, you can't weaponize that. If the person just happens to be standing somewhere, or if somebody happens to be walking past a poster that may say something inappropriate, you can't take a photo of them and then put them in the frame and say, well,

that pretty much says what that person's all about. And you know anyway besides that, now that was before you know, Ai, I don't. I'm getting to the stage now where I don't believe anything my eyes can see. If I can see it with my own eyes, I don't believe it anymore unless it's actually in physical form in front of me. Otherwise I see AI and I just think, Wow, we've come a long way. But nothing feels real anymore. Phil, It's twelve degrees, but it feels like eight. What is

the actual temperature? Well, where are you at the moment? Are you in Britain? Because I don't think I did the eight degrees? In Sydney it's nine and it feels like one for that person that was sending that text through, and the Brisbane one was twelve, but it feels like nine. Let me get to Jason in a sec. But let's just catch up on a couple of things that are going on in the news before we go to n de Brady, and then we have our first of the

Doctor Carle questions. A series of new satellite images have painted a clearer picture of what damage was inflicted on the Iranian nuclear development sites after they were struck by the B two bombers. Carrying the bunker buster bombs, and it's being questioned as to whether or not the strikes actually obliterated the site. And this report is saying that it actually probably only set back Iran's capacity to develop nuclear weapons by a few months. How do you think

Donald Trump feels about that? Well, he is absolutely furious. He's a q CNN and the New York Times of attempting to demean one of the most successful military strikes in history. Those are his words after the outlets reported leaked intelligence found that the US sites on Iran left most of its nuclear infrastructure intact, he said on his truth social with all caps. Of course, if you want to make a point, you've got to have everything in

all caps. This is what he said. Fake news CNN, together with the failing New York Times, have teamed up in an attempt to demean one of the most successful military strikes in history. The nuclear strikes in Iran are completely destroyed, he wrote. While also in the Netherlands of the NATO summit, he said both the Times, as in the New York Times and CNN are getting slammed by the public, So he's not happy about that. Good news. For over one hundred and eighteen Australians airlifted out of

Tel Aviv by the Royal Australian Air Force. And congratulations again to the Royal Australian Air Force for helping out. I mean, obviously they did that at the year behest of the Prime Minister, but the in fact Anthony Albaniz he said, you know, this is great news. We always prioritize the safety of Australians. A lot of people stuck.

I think the Iran airspace remains closed, may reopen two o'clock GMT their time, so that's today, but yesterday in their time, of course, there's not a lot of a lot of flights out of it. Ryan at the moment, I think I saw that Aaron Molan was trapped somewhere in Israel, so why if you manage to get out. We were a bit concerned about oil prices. Well they've fallen, stock markets have jumped as the fragile sees fire between Iran

and Israel holds, and that's good. There was a certain overnight presenter whose name is Phil, who said the other day, the other day, just before this, make sure you fill up your petrol tank. Well, that person whose name is phil who was doing the overnight show, was absolutely wrong about that. The US deploys its most advanced aircraft carrier

towards the Middle East. That's the USS Gerald R Ford with a carrier strike group that will join a couple of others that are already there too, the USS Carl Vincent and the USS Nimits. So they are around that particular area and certainly showing a show of force. As Donald Trump says, he's not going to put up with any more nonsense. Iran thought that they would have an ally in Vladimir Russian Russian President Vladimir Putin, turns out he left them hanging, gave them a bit of a

cold shoulder. And also Pakistan has said that Donald Trump has blood on his hands over the Nobel Peace Prize. Fura, you know that Pakistani opposition leader nominated Donald Trump, and I think it was in fact, quite a few people in parliament there nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. Now they're saying since the US strikes on nuclear sites in Iran, he no longer deserves it. And one more, and I'm going to talk about this later on this

morning with Skiv, who is our cyber expert. US officials and private experts are warning that Iran may retaliate against the United States by a range of cyber attacks. So I want to find out how good their cyber attacks are, whether or not they have any kind of capability that can weakness. Skeev Stevens is our expert. Talk to him a little bit later on. Let's get to Jason. How are you made house hospital this morning? How are you feeling, buddy?

nine hours and then I woke up. And when I woke up until the day or so later in ICU with all these cords hanging over me in the nurse slapping me telling me not to use my elbows to raise up because they just put the wire in and they put my thing my chest back together and that, and then the next day they had me up sitting in the chair next to the bed. And the day after that they had me walking down, walking down the corridoro.

But but this time, this time, nobody, like I said to you, nobody ever told me because it is it the amount of time that I was off my feet for Like as I said, after the surgery, I slept for five days and then it was another it was another two weeks before I actually the vigil would actually help me get out of bed and start to do some walking. And I just then that was it raw, not sure. And then now that I'm at Hornsby, I'm just kicking the goals, mate, that's all.

her again. He said, yeah, let's kick it off. And I was at the stage, you know how you your stomach might have a bit of weait on, but the sides of it come in and face down, you know what I mean.

getting paid for it by our government. So I think that should bring in NA shows and that'll help bring up our our our crews and stuff like that, and and hopefully some people will go on to make I'm going to make a career out of it. Yeah, I mean, that's it, and that's that's the only way I can see that they would get enough people in is doing nashows.

But they're they're two weeks. They're just two week And I mean, listen, I never voted for Tony Abbott, but I was proud to have him as my crime in the stuff.

got some of the bruising Mate. That looks pretty pretty interesting, pretty impressive there too. And I say that because I know you only sent that to me because you're trying to show me that your bruises and scars and surgery look worse than my toe. That's the only reason for it. You even mentioned that. But appreciate that, and it's good to talk to you. To David, and also Joe just sent me a textco and the satellite photos look pretty

convincing to me. And the whole place was obliterated. Talking about the story with the Bunker Busters, which is being debunked by The New York Times NCNN, but Joe says these strikes should qualify Trump for the Nobel Prisurprise if they reduced the threat of nuclear conflict in the Middle East without targeting civilians. It's hard tonight because it went

so far down into the ground too. You know, I think you'd have to be down there or have a camera down there to have any accurate idea of whether or not it was successful. But you know, it's certainly stopped the issues for the time being. Let's get to the UK twenty six past.

What they want to do is give themselves more capacity and a greater variety of their arsenal and I think all of this is a nudge and a wink and a nod towards Russia and just flexing the muscles and saying to putin you know, don't even think about pushing us.

They could sit down, have a chat and start planning things that Trump would be interested in doing in twenty twenty six or twenty seven. And now we're hearing from Starmar that it's being brought forward and Trump will come on his unprecedented second state visit for a US president in September. So the government is going directly against the King's wishes. And you do wonder, you know, is that

going to put Charles in a bad mood? You know, he probably thought he had twelve months to plan and think of interesting things and places to take Trump, and now it's happening in a matter of weeks.

to deal with the growing threats. Where's Winston Churchill when you need him? Have you been made aware of this? Were you aware of this document?

stop at Ukraine. He will keep going and we need to be prepared. So what you're seeing is a lot of these reports emerging with people clearly with the vested interest in getting more money spent on defense, saber rattling and just saying a phraser. Heard the other day someone in Europe, a leader said, you know, either spend five percent or start learning Russian. That was the phrase that was used. So clearly they're very worried about the threat

from Putin's Russia. And you've got to kind of read into it that a lot of these defense bosses want more money spent, and this kind of rhetoric is all aimed at pushing political leaders to dig deeper financially.

until the Murray's came along. A terrible, terrible thing happened there in ninety five ninety six when there was a school shooting which changed gun law forever in the United Kingdom. Andy Murray and his brother were actually in that school on that day and he went off. His mum, Judy, took him to Spain into the He's kind of elite tennis coaching academies. His brother has had a wonderful career as a doubles player. He has won titles, and Andy has won US Open, and he's won Wimbledon twice, and

he won two Olympic gold medals. And yes, he gets some criticism for people saying, oh, he didn't win as much as Nadal and Federer and Djokovic. I think he was really unlucky to live in the era of those three guys. And he still came out with three slams and two Olympic gold medals. So Wimbledon will celebrate it's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary in twenty twenty seven, and the plan is that Andy Murray will get his own statue at Wimbledon to mark the occasion. Good luck to him.

love the guy. I absolutely think he is brilliant and I can't wait to see what he does next.

it on the app. And Chris just rang me from the sorry, I should say, ran in from the studio next door from the Wheels of Steel and he gave me the score and do you think I can find it now? In front of me? He gave me put it in my hand. So if anybody knows what or how he can get involved in that by watching that on the app or seeing it on the app, please you know, get in touch now Texas on zero four

six zero eight seven three eight seven three. Here it is so Australia versus West Indies first innings Australia forty one for three yet to bat. I don't know much about cricket, so I hope, I said, that right. Australia forty one for three yet to bat first Test first innings. So if you want to give me any more updates on that, by all means do But I think that the deal is that with Michael, he wants to find how he can get it on an app. Can you help him out? Zero four six zero eight seven three

eight seven three twenty five to two. I can't wait to find out the answers to some of your great questions for doctor Carl and clever bi anchor. Braandy Biancher is sitting in next She'll have a guar at those for you. Twenty one to two. Thanks Viv. You can get the cricket on ESPN, Disney and KO now instead of doctor carb This warning answering your questions, It's Biancer, No Grady, Do I call you doctor Biancher?

talk you through it. So essentially, if you imagine that you've got a triangle where one side of the triangle is a distance from let's say you're eyes right down to the center of the Earth. The other side of the triangle is the distance from the horizon all the way to the center of the Earth.

a kind of a triangle that you can then measure. Now, if you use Pythagris's theorem, you can actually then work out because you know how long, we know what the diameter of the Earth is, and we know what our own height is, so we can work out the length of two sides of the triangle and then you can use Pythagrisi's theorem, which I'm not going to do live on air because I'm not a mathematically kind person, but you can then relatively easily use that to work out

how long the line is then from your eyes to the horizon. Or you can cheat and there is actually a website online where you can enter your height or the height the altitude that you're at, and then it will tell you how far it is to the horizon. So in my case, I'm about one point five meters home. I think it might be one point six I'm not sure. So if I was standing at sea level, like on a beach, and I was looking over to the horizon, it would be about four point three seven kilometers away.

it takes a photon of light. So a particle of light which is traveling at the speed of light as they do, it's a time it takes to cross the distance of one plank length. So what is a plank length. Plank length is one point six times ten to the minus thirty five meters, So I kind of even give you a comparison of how many plank lengths there are in a you know, with the human hair.

of work. And it's like this is where I don't know if you've ever heard, it's idear of a theory of everything, and it's this kind of quest in theoretical physics to try and combine general relativity, which is, you know, things that are affected by gravity, with quantum mechanics, which is things that are essentially below you know, at this level, and trying there's always this quest to try and unite

those two things so that it all makes sense. One great, big, beautiful theory, and so far physicists haven't quite managed to do it. So yeah, plank time and plank length is the smallest measurable distance and unit of time.

think of as normal glass. So the short answer would be the surface of that mirror would be a very very very faint greenish tint. So if you think of about a really thick pane of glass, if you're able, if you look at it side on, sometimes if you see like a glass piece of glass looking like a shower of cubicle, you can look at it side on

and you can see it's a little bit greenish. So that's the sort of color if you're going to be really technical, looks clear, but in fact there's a bit of green in it.

particularly different to Australia. And what they're looking specifically at or what seems to be the most common form of injuries, injuries to wrists and hands and fingers. So I don't know if you're a dog on a field, but.

kind of jerks off in an unexpected direction. That can actually be enough force to cause a fracture of I mean, there's lots of delicate bones in our hands and wrists, and I mean what was interesting with this was that when they were looking at the injuries, about three quarters of them were in women.

So it was this group of killer whales living kind of the Pacific, just off British Columbia and Washington, and they found they spotted them picking or kind of breaking the ends off bull kelp, so there's really big, long, thick strands of bull kelp, and then they would press these pieces of kelp against a partner, you know, a partner another whale and then basically roll along, so roll the kelp between their bodies, back and forward for long

periods of time. And they were trying to understand why they were doing this, and so they were kind of looking for what might explain it. The first thing they saw was that the whales were more likely to groom other whales that were closely related or of a similar age. So that suggests there's a social dimension to this. This is you know that there's I guess a social purpose

to it. But then the other interesting thing was they found that it seemed to be more common with whales that had more kind of molting skin or dead skin on their backs and on their sides. So that points to there being an actual function of this. It's not just kind of, you know, giving someone a little bit of a backscratch because it feels good. This is actually there's a kind of a beauty. They're basically giving each other a seaweed wrap, you know, taking rid of that, getting rid of that dead.

Both said they know somebody who've injured their fingers, both female walking their dog. Both of the occasions sounded really nasty, so it seems to be a pretty common thing. What about you, Have you ever injured yourself walking your dog? One three one eight seven three is my number? Have you ever injured yourself walking your dog? I think that might be the greatest question I've ever asked on the radio. One three one eight seven three is the phone number.

And also we'll get to some of your texts for the questions for Bianca next week. But in the meantime, let's get your two o'clock news update.

an eye and then Christmas is here again. And I always think about the period of Christmas because it's always a time where it's just madness, that week of madness between Christmas and New Year's Eve, where you know, if you need a plumber, you're in no man's land. Got oh, I forgot to do it, sorry, Margaret twelve to at the moment in Brisbane, but it feels like nine degrees, and the forecast in Sydney at the moment it is eight degrees, but it feels like one. So that's pretty

cool everywhere as you can imagine. Hey, Chris, how are you this morning? Mate? We went to go to you, Chris. Who will you know is our regular Chris? Chris's phones off? Are you okay? Mate? Chris? Turn your phone back on, buddy, because you know we do want to talk to you. I've got a few texts that came through, a few questions too, for Bianca who was sitting in for doctor carm this week. Bianca O'Grady, the freelance science journalist and author,

and she'll be back next week as well. That's fantastic all those stories about people that have injured themselves. Mean, it's not fantastic, but it's incredible, isn't it. I think that people have injured themselves by walking their dog, and that seems to be a thing too. Have you ever injured yourself by walking your dog? One three one eight seven three or on the text zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three two it's the Thursday

Morning Live Lounge. Who have we got playing this morning? Well, I'll give you a clue. It is somebody that has sung a song that's not his song. Funnily enough, as a solo artist, that's made that his biggest hit single. So who is he and what's the song going to be? I think I've given away enough clues, but we'll get that in the moment. And it's going to be the first live Thursday Morning Live Lounge that features a piano or at least a keyboard. So that's coming up for

you very soon. Nine minutes past two, let me get a couple of these texts and emails. Jason just said to me a JJ rather filled with the Piagoratha's the theorem. See, I can't even say it, and yet you know it. He said, what a beautiful thing. I used it to build right angles in my ex's kitchen. You're so clever JJ.

for my mum. And by the time it actually got this coffee coaster made was the end of term and the rest of the kids in the class had moved on to making cabinets for their mom and their parents, you know, like cabinets with doors that slide and you know bits of panes of glass, you know, using huge things that were you know, six seven foot tall. And I was still working on this coaster, coffee coaster for my mum, which.

he will. Our good friend Jason Morrison who's getting his eye in, getting some practice in. I run into him in the corridor on the way in and he said, man, I'm going to do some shows on two GB four PC and I said great, and he said, I'm going to be doing the overnights this weekend. And I said to him, are you insane? Are you crazy? Why would you do that to yourself and to your body? And he said, because he wants to get back into the practice of speaking to you the listeners. And he's great.

I mean, he really is how a proper talkback person should sound. I should probably take more attention to it so you'll be able to hear him this weekend and that'd be absolutely brilliant. Pete at Lithgow says I support Tony Abbott for the PM campaign with Jacenter as his deputy. A couple of questions that are coming through for next week for asked doctor Carl with Bianca sitting in, and these are always so clever. This one's from Michael, is

it true that the tide never rises or falls? I'm going to put that into the running for it and have a listen to these genius questions. I don't know how how you came up with this, Steve, but this is brilliant. How do birds navigate the skies while migrating? Amazing? This one's from Alex who said, is it true there's a trillion dollars worth of platinum on the moon? Brilliant? And this one from Julie is it true that bats don't get cancer? And could that be a big deal

for humans? Again? Just genius, so clever. Keep your text coming through with your questions for next week. Zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three on the phone one three one eight seven three. So the live lounge coming up at a moment, a really nice, really great acoustic of a song that you know really really well.

And Leith van Onslin in a moment too. We were trying to get hold of you, Chris, and then you were there and then we couldn't get a hold of you, and we rang you back and then your phone wasn't on. Were you ringing somebody else?

didn't like what Malcolm Turnbull did to him. He didn't like when he got bitched. I can't imagine Malcolm Turble winning that election. As a matter of fact, I think Malcolm Turble somehow I made a mistake and joined the wrong party. He shouldn't join the Labor or better still, the Green And to me, Tony Abbott would not have been as bad. I can't see anybody being as as as what we've got now with Elbow. I think he's

pushing his socialistic gender too far. And I just think that I just want to get politicians to come to their sense and do what they both do represent us, so they should still have a good skill for what the issues, what most people want, and start delivering. Don't run this country anymore into the ground.

I thought it was really interesting that while he was doing here his talk at NATO, that CNN were the only was the only one of the three channels that I have in here monitoring the world overnight that was actually taking the speech on the press conference. CNN were taking it, but Fox News wasn't, surprisingly and also neither was Sky News UK. So yeah, again I thought that was rather interesting. But anyway, here were a couple of

things that Donald Trump was talking about at NATO. In this particular case, he says that he doesn't think it's necessary to restart the negotiations with Iran.

have a wide range of cyber attacks. I don't know how true this is, there could be some suspected Iranian cyber attacks against the US. So I thought i'd catch up with Skeeve Stevens, the futurist, who we've spoken to before, about the Iranian cyber capability and whether or not it's any good. I mean, we're led to believe it's active, but whether or not it's weak, say compared to that of the US and Israel and other countries too. So

that's going to be a little bit later on. If you're still with us at five point fifteen, they've got a long way to go yet, though it's only yeah, twenty minutes past two. We're going to go to the Thursday Morning Live Lounge in a moment. I've got a really great song that we're going to hear this morning acoustically, albeit played on the piano, well the keyboard, in fact, not the piano, but the keyboard. You will be able

to hump a piano in here. So that's coming up a little bit later on this hour, but next up being this time of the Wednesday morning. We always catch up with this Thursday, isn't it, Craigy Thursday already gets away from you. So this time on a Thursday morning, we always catch up with our good friend leithman Onsolin with the Treasury of Common Sense, and we'll get to

that next to twenty twenty three minutes past two. I just got a text from Michael who wanted to know how to watch the cricket, and that was Viv who sent him that response, and Michael is very grateful Viv. He said, I didn't know I could watch the Australia the West Indies cricket on ESPN. So he's got that on his Foxtel channel and he's now I presume watching

that and listening to us. And if you are listening to us, Michael, anytime you feel like giving me a quick score update, I shall pass it on to the people as well. As I said. The Thursday Morning Live Lounge one of our favorite morning segments on a Thursday because we get to hear a little bit of music and songs played a acoustically. When you strip them back and you hear them acoustically, you get a completely different

perspective and a feel for this song. You know this song and you love this song too, but you're going to be hearing it done a little differently and the story behind it from the man that sang it. That's on the way. But now it's our good friend, Leith van Onsolin.

housing developments. So effectually we have this situation not just in New South Wales but around Australia where if I properly. Developers often face troubles getting financed for new projects because they lack adequate presales. So often if a developer goes to a bank and they need and they want to get, you know, a large summer money for a development, they'll say, okay, how many pre sales do you have and they'll often say, well, we don't have an art or whatever, and they'll they'll

get rejected finance. So that means that the development doesn't go ahead and we obviously don't get that supply. So if the New South Wales government has promised to do is to purchase any unsolved stock in a housing development up to fifty million dollars per development, so effectively they

want to become the buyer of last resort. So that means that it should appease bank's concerns about the financial viability of projects, and it should encourage qualified developers to borrow more to build projects, which which should therefore increase supply. So the New South Wales Treasurer Daniel Lookie claimed that the policy would quote Britain forward the construction of up to fifteen thousand extra homes over the next five years.

Now that's obviously a good thing. You know, fifteen thousand extra homes is great, but it's nowhere near enough. So the federal government's advisory Council on Housing, the National Houses Supply and Affordability Council, or at least a report last month and a forecast, suggested that New South Wales would only meet sixty five percent of its agreed housing target over the.

homes over five years, that's great. Federal government's own Advisory Counts on Supply says that New South Wales is facing one hundred and thirty thousand supply gaps, so obviously fifteen thousand there is a lot less than one hundred and thirty thousand. In fact, it's only twelve percent of one hundred and thirty thousand. So you know, this basically shows you that New South Wales New South Wales's housing market.

Even if this policy did deliver what's promised, is still going to be massively undersupplied of housing, which just means the housing crisis is going to drag on. And there's also the risk that there's also the risk that New South Wales taxpayers could be left carrying the can for poor equality development. So presumably if a development can't sell and the taxpayers they step in and buy these apartments, you'd think that it's more likely they've been in developments

that are poor quality. So for example, if it developer goes out and builds a whole bunch of you know, not very good town homes or apartments or whatever, and they struggle to sell them because they're not very good and people don't to buy them, taxpayer could be left picking up the picking up these apartments.

lot less that. The key problem here, feel is that the fundamental reason why New South Wales has a housing shortage is because of excessive net overseas migration. So the population data came out last week from the Train Bureau Statistics, and what it showed is that New South Wales grew by one hundred and eight thousand people last calendar year

so twenty twenty four. That was driven almost one hundred percent by net overseas migration of one hundred and seven thousand, So New South Wales lost about twenty eight thousand people to other states, which offset the net birth that's birth's minus deaths, So effectfully all of New South Wales's population growth last year came from people coming from overseas, and in fact, in the decade to December twenty twenty four, so for the last ten years, newth Wales's population has

grown by nine hundred and eighty three thousand net overseas migration, so people are right from overseas is counter for eighty eight percent of that eight hundred and eighty two thousand, and also the remainder of that is natural increase, which is birth mine deaths, but migrants also have children. So if you bring it, bring a whole eight hundred and eighty two thousand migrants into New South Wales, well, some of those migrants are going to have children and then

that gets counters is natural increase. So what this tells you is that all of New South Wales's population growth and therefore housing demand which is causing this housing crisis, is because of this very high level of net overseas migration.

So if the New South plaus government really wants to solve this problem, you know that this poles is great, but what it really is needs to do is to tell the federal government to slow migration down and cut it to some a sensible and sustainable level that is compatible with New South Wales and it goes to the other states as well, Australia's capacity to build housing and infrastructure, because really, for the last twenty years the federal government

has fire hosed huge amounts of neat overseas migration into the country. The state that gets the line's share of that net overseas migration is New South Wales, followed by Victorian Queensland. So therefore, if we've got this pervasive, chronic housing supply problem. The logical solution is to slow that net overseas migration down and then you actually solve the housing shortage. And that is really the number one solution here. Everything else is window dressing and that's really what Daniel

Mookie and you know Chrispin should be doing. They should be staying to Camber. Look, we can't build enough houses quick enough to keep up with this supply, this massive that you keep bringing into our state through through neover Sin's migration. So you need to slow this down. And I think that is a real solution. Now, just turning to Queensland, So Queensland has taken a different road to their housing policy, but it's also equally important. I think

it's actually lot worse. So just to put some number around this, Brisbane's median home price has surged by eighty five percent since March twenty twenty, so the cost of housing in Brisbane has absolutely rocketed since the pandemic. And according to prop Track, which is a house in Nels's firm, they estimate that that Brisbane's median home value was eight hundred and nine thousand in May, and that's actually the

second highest in the nation now behind Sydney. So Brisbane used to be relatively affordable, is a lot less than Melbourne et cetera. Now Brisbane is the second most expensive housing market in the country and the Queensland State budget this week announced the most generous shared equite scheme in the nation. So what it basically said is that once to promise promise to help Queensland first home buyers, oh so should I say Queensland home buyers purchase homes valued

it up to one million dollars. So under its policy, single households earning up to one hundred and fifty thousand and households are to adults e ard up to two hundred and twenty five thousand will be eligible for basically this shared equity scheme, whereby the Queensland State Government will invest either thirty percent of equity in the new bills of twenty five percent into existing houses up to one

million dollars. And what this effectively means is that it'll allow it'll allow a whole bunch of people who couldn't previously afford to get in that housing in Queensland to now be able to purchase housing. And what will do is will bring a whole bunch of new buyers in

the market. And like all first home buyers grants or any other of these sorts of policies that we've seen over the last twenty five five years, it's ultimately just going to push up home prices because you're going to have increasing demand, increasing number of buyers, people borrowing more than they would have otherwise, bidding on the same amount of stock, and what it's going to end up doing is just going to end up pushing our home prices.

So what it means is that it's actually very self defeating from a housing affordability perspective, and it's just going to drive prices higher. It's going to and what that means is once you drive the prices higher, as we've seen in the last twenty five years, you end up just with a less affordable housing.

January twenty twenty six. So all these sorts of policies, low interest rates, shared equity schemes from the Queensland government, the Federal government's five percent to positive scheme, all it's going to end up doing is just going to add way more demand to the housing market. People are going to borrow more money, We're going to have a higher household debt, and it's going to end up just pushing

our home process even further. And it's actually the last thing you want to do when you have and when you have a housing affordability problem is actually just increased demands, so you make home structurally more unaffordable. And we've really seen how this story ends throughout this century with first time biogrounds, shared equity schemes, all these sorts of schemes are seen in our last twenty five years have all

just ended up pushing prices higher. They haven't made housing more affordable and in the end, which has ended up with higher home prices and more household debt. So Unfortunately, I think the Queensland's policy, the Queensland governments policy is self defeating from an affordability perspective. It's just going to make the situation even worse.

Zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three on the text, and it's two thirty five twenty five to three in the old school language. Who's in the Thursday morning jazz club? Well, it's not really a jazz club. And on the subject to that, can I just quickly say I can't believe that the Foundry Jazz Club in Sydney is closing down, which is it's been around. It's

in Ultimore, Gleeb Ultimore on Harris Street. It's been there forever. Well, when I say forever, at least I don't know, at least five years, which is pretty long for a venue these days. And I had a look there because I like to go to the Foundry like a bit of jazz, and I noticed it was closing down. And Chris next door in the studio on the wheels that Steel gave me another jazz place that I wasn't aware of. But

in Sydney it's more and more venues closing down. And when you think of if you're a jazz fan, you used to be able to go to the Basement, and there were one or two other places as well. There was I think three to three was the other place, which was up near Redford, but they've both gone now. And now it seems that the Foundry six one six in Harris Street and Ultimore in Sydney that's going to close down too, So you know, it's such a shame.

But anyway, the Thursday Morning Live Lounge, we'll get to that next twenty minutes to three. Hello Viv, thank you for the cricket score. Australia is now three for sixty five. Thank you Viv for sending that through. If Michael took your suggestion and he's watching the foxtail, but we'll keep you updated on that in the cricket scores as and when they come through from Viv. You're now the official

cricket score person. I was talking about the lack of jazz bars in Sydney now and I mentioned a moment ago that the Foundry, which is in Harris Street in Sydney, that's closed and that's such a shame that's closing because it's such a great venue. But in Brisbane they've got loads Brisbane Jazz Club, the Do What Bar. I used to go to the Brisbane Jazz Club when I lived in Brisbane under the Bridge, Kangaroo Point. Great place. You've got the Do What bar, and you also you have

in Brisbane the Brooklyn Standard. It looks like in Sydney. I think you know, Chris said to me Hubert's is one place that has a bit of jazz going on in Sydney. But I wasn't aware of that. So I have to go and have a look at that. Let's get ourselves into a smoky jazz environment here as we go into the Thursday morning live lounge and see who

we have this morning. Well, he didn't come in live because even at you know, nineteen to three in the morning, if you're a musician, it's a bit of a big call. But he did pop in during the daytime for a pre recorded chat and said he was going to do the song, but you know, very very well. But he said he would do it not on the piano but on a keyboard. I said, that's good because we've got no room in here for a piano. But it sounded good.

And his name is Daryl Breathwaite. I said, mate, good to see you, and you're looking very well.

young people. I saw something the other day which was really strange on social media about somebody putting up there that if you played the Horses at eleven fifty eight or something just before midnight on New Year's Eve, then you would time it correctly so that on the stroke of midnight that you'd hit the chorus of the Horses and that could be.

different reasons. And then we got into trying to analyze maybe what the reasons are about the song, and you could keep on going for a day, you know, trying to bring up.

I go back to those days and I remember Will going to the Trade Union Club in Surrey Hills, the Hope Town as well. All these venues are gone now. I mentioned that this great venue jazz venue in Sydney, the Foundry that's gone, that's closing down end of June. It's incredible when you look at the venues, the amount of venues that are up and running in Brisbane and also in Melbourne compared to Sydney, it's incredible. More and more venues, live venues closing in Sydney and for a

city the size of Sydney. It just seems like they just don't want to have a night life.

in the Thursday Morning Live Lounge. And next week in the Thursday Morning Live Lounge, I believe we're gonna have diesel popping in just a guitar. Nothing quite as elaborate as that. I just got a text from Michael in Brisbane saying my favorite Darrel Breathwait song is higher than Hope, which I think was a better hit than Horses. Appreciate your text on that. All right, let's get your news update for three o'clock. Terry Barnes is on the way,

and also more of your overnight news coming up. Great voice. Daryl Brethwait still has hasn't a for the age of seventy six as well. His voice is really hung in well, and Will said, do you remember the ann and Dale Hotel? Phil sure do. Will was talking about some of the bands that he saw there, like the Go Betweens two and Adale Hotel was always a really terrific venue. You know again, I just go back to, you know, a city the size of Sydney with just more and more

diminishing live venues. It's absolutely criminal and hard to believe that, you know, that's the state that we're in. Terry Barnes will join us in just a moment to talk about the state of this week in politics that's on the way, and also a little bit of music news for you too. Let's get to the news update.

for a while. Didn't feel that cold when I came in this morning, however, there was a lot of wind around, so I took my wife's mini car rather than jumping on the bike, rather than being pushed over. Chris was telling me from the studio next door. On the wheels of steel he took the motorbike out to yesterday nearly got blown over. So if you're on the bike, take it easy. Albie just said, all governments have given out

incentives to buy housing. Prices always increase when they do. Ever, wonder how many pollys or how so many pollies get rich. Welcome to capitalism any under any other industry would be called inside training.

just said, Darryl Braithwait sounded incredible. He's going to be seventy five. He's seventy six, and you're right. The way he hits those notes are really really good. And he said my favorites a rise in one summer and looking forward to Dezil next week. The girls loved his John Travolta's style and look, and he had lots of bangers. You're right, David, and he's going to give us one next week. And Michael said, when are you going to

have a chat with the Brewster brothers tomorrow? I think Michael for our segment behind the Song, which is around about this time in the morning tomorrow morning, hopefully catching up with John Brewster to hear the story behind the Angel song. Am I ever going to see your face again? Hang around with us. We've still got a long way to go till we get to five point thirty for the big Breakfast wake up, including Terry Barnes in just a moment. I've got a bit of music news on

the way for you as well. And also we're going to talk about pandemics, and we caught up with Terry Slevin about this. It's interesting because there are now more talk about on this, some more talk about more pandemics coming out of Chi. I'll give you that news report a little bit later. And our good friend Luke Boner is back from his holiday where he's daughter, of course,

got married. We talked about that last week. Luke Boner joins us with the Boner Report this morning from four point thirty and Skeeve Stevens as well, talking about whether or not Iran has any kind of cyber capability. The Wall Street Journal did a report saying, you know, we should be aware of perhaps possible cyber attacks that may come from Iran, but you know, how serious is that?

pajamas until much later on. So much wind around it was ridiculous. Hay fever was playing up, and I thought, no, I'm not going outside. I'm just going to spend the afternoon on the Internet in my pajamas, organizing guests for the show for you, and I came across some really

interesting stories that I want to share with you. For example, China have just unveiled a mosquito sized drone, and we're all talking about drones now, especially since you know, the Israel Iran thing kicked off, and now we're aware of the kind of capabilities that drones have, and also Ukraine before that in Russia too. But now China have got these insect inspired they call them microdrones. So they've got the robob, They've got the robo Black Hornet, and these

are for civilian and military uses. And this one is barely the size of a human fingernail. It's made to resemble mosquito. It's got two yellow leaf like wings, a black vertical body, three hair thin legs, and it's a drone that's capable of a whole range of things, you know, military and civilian. It's not that good. I don't think to carry weapons or mind you, if you wanted to take somebody out right, if you could do that with the capability, somebody go oh, just got bitten by a mosquito.

Next thing you know, bang, they've fallen on the floor. Well, I don't think it's being used for that, but in true mission impossible style, it's going to be used for information gathering. I think I've seen some films in the past where something like this happened. I can't remember the film, but they had a fly with a camera on it and it was flying around in and out of buildings, and I thought, well, that's, you know, pretty high tech

science fiction. Not anymore. China's going to do it, and they're going to use them for various intelligence and surveillance and reconnaissance tasks as well. And they're really quiet. They're almost invisible to the human eye, so you wouldn't even know it was there. It can bypass detection entering secure and restricted locations. So that is your mosquito size drone. But as I said, not just available for the military,

but for villian uses too. Could you imagine the fun you can have around the office especially, I've had a little microphone on it. You know, there was a meeting going on about you that you knew of. You just fly your mosquito size drone in there immediately You're armed with information. When they come out, you could go, what do you mean you're gonna sack me. Here's another thing

I found really interesting. You know how they did this amazing marathon bombing run, this US bombing mission that targeted the three nuclear facilities Iran over the weekend. I was reading about the massive undertaking. It was required for the B two bomber pilots to pretty much test the limits of human endurance during the thirty seven hour session. Because they had seven stealth bombers carrying two crew members. They

flew NonStop halfway around the world. You think about that, right, thirty seven hour mission flew halfway across the world and then back in one of the longest air raids in modern military history. It's been described as an incredible feat. They had more than one hundred and twenty five aircraft used in the attack, and apart from the seven bombers that flew east from the Missouri Whiteman Air Force Base to strike Iran, they also have these B two bombers

flying west. The thing about the B two bomber is that, I'm let's believe, you can only have two people in there, and it's really small. It's a pressurized cockpit and that can dehydrate you, so they had to drink water. But also they could only have a cat nap pretty much where they were because you know, you've seen the size of these B twos. The cockpit itself is tiny. So what they had to do was they had cat naps, and they had piddle packs, so that's if they wanted

to have a Wii. It was a little zip lock type bag that was filled with kitty litter. Isn't that genius? If you've ever had a bad back and you've had to Wii into a plastic bag like I've had to do, or you've had to Wii into a bottle because you can't get out of bed, fill it up with cat litter. Genius. See, only the military could come up with something that brilliant.

But yeah, apparently it was a real feat of a military precision and also human endurance to fly there and back in something basically the size of a little cubicle. You know, if you're at work, you'd be sitting in And one more thing that I found was absolutely fascinating. Do you know that your breathing pattern is as unique as a fingerprint? This takes it to a whole new level. When I found out that a tongue print is unique and as unique as a fingerprint, I couldn't believe that.

So apparently it's true. Your tongue print is not that you're ever going to steal a car and lick it. You do, in that case, you deserve to be arrested anyway, don't steal a car. But you know, the thing is about the tongue print. You can be identified by that and a fingerprint. But now apparently your breathing pattern is also as unique as a fingerprint and can get you identified.

It's portity of the scientists. It has to do with the unconscious rhythms of our inhales and exhales that are so unique that no two people have the same breathing pattern on this planet. How incredible is that. Take that to the bank and tell everybody at work you know about that. And also, apparently, according to the team of scientists who did this research, a person's nasal breathing pattern is so distinct you can be identified with an accuracy

of ninety six point eight percent. That's how accurate it is. That's how accurate it is, according to the neuroscience, And they found about one hundred people. They've got them a small wearable device. They tracked their nasal air flow for twenty four hours, and then they found out that they turned the noses into biometric scanners, and they found out that your breathing pattern is so unique that it could

probably stand up in a court of law. And you can be identically accurately identified ninety six point eight percent of the time. So if you're stealing something right now, just don't breathe, or better still, don't steal anything. I should have added that bit beforehand. Sixteen minutes past three. Would you like to get in touch on the phone. You can one three one eight seven three. You can text me on zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. You can email me overnights at two

GB dot com. And coming up to seventeen minutes past three, we'll catch up with our good friend Terry Barnes after this to talk about the week so far in politics. How are you this morning? Yeah, okay, getting ready for the weekend. We've got to get through Thursday. Then here we have the weekend coming ups. Can be a cold one though, pretty chilly in Sydney. This morning feels like one degree coming up to twenty one minutes past three. Let's catch up with our good friend Terry Barnes.

the May federal election. That's not that's the truth. But her solution, as far as I can see, is that she wants to talk about modern Australia and modern Australian values and not timeless Liberal party values or timeless center right or conservative or even well liberal well liberal values. So she lost me when she gave the acknowledgment of country right at the beginning, not because that's wrong in itself, but it sent a very clear coded message that she

is not going to fight the culture wars. She's not going to actually talk to a base. She's going to talk to well, she's going to talk to the rest of the country, I think. And of course if they want to regain government, the littles have to do that.

They actually have to respect their base as well. I get the sneaking feeling that as a moderate Liberal MP, she respects the moderate part of the Liberal Party that doesn't have much time with the conservative part, and that's going to be a very interesting, well battle to be fought internally over the next couple of years if she survived that long.

it is, what Australian's aspirations are. But I think they also need to explain to to many people, particularly the young, that the Times values that Bob Benzi's stood up for, that Liberals had stood up for since the founding of the party eighty years ago, in terms of smaller government, in terms of greater personal response bility, in terms of the role of the family in the community, the sense that people determine their own destinies and that don't have

to well co live their lives with government. I mean, those things matter to civil society in my view. I think people on the right are not very good at communicating that too, particularly younger people who have been educated I think, in a very progressive education culture all the way from the Garten two University and really have been for decades now. And my sense his liberals have lost those and they're struggling him too to actually make any

ground with them. However, I don't think by simply saying, well, look, they didn't like who we were in May, I like who we are in June. If we basically talk like them, it's not going to work.

Is that he's probably learned how to communicate and talk about ideas and values and international politics particularly much more effectively than when he was in Parliament when he was Prime minister. And in that sense, I think he's become very comfortable as an elder statesman and I think earned a lot of respect from even people who opposed him when he was in well, certainly when he's Prime minister, but also I think in the twenty odd years he was in politics.

current generation to actually step up and perform. And part of The problem that the federal liberal's got and at state level around the country is a desperate problem.

talk about that. And yeah, the slings about the narrows of public life for a really quite nice these days, and social media has made them a hell of a lot worse than say, even in John Howard's time.

Where are we at with that? I mean, what are your thoughts on that?

don't see any need to change that. I mean, effectively, he was being very dismissive, brushed it off, effectively saying that any debate about our defense spending is off the table. And that's really reinforcing comments that the Prime Minister made off the cuff a week or so ago. We've effectively said we decided what we spend our money on the

circumstances in which we spend it. But certainly I think given that the US is driving the NATO ad lies to increase their defense spending, no matter how much fawning and flattery goes with it. The fact that even the Canadians who have underperformed compared to even Australia in terms of the spending and prepared to up it to three

percent more of GDP, we're starting to be lagged. If we want to have if we want to have the influence not just with the President Trump, but in terms of the regional security and world security, we actually have to put our money on the table. We have to put our willingness to play our part on the table. And we've had this, well, we've had this shadow game gunning over last fortnight, haven't we about Donald Trump? Meeting

has now been easy? But really, why should the President meet mister Alben easy when Australia is not just in terms of being wishy washy and nearly mouthed in terms of its foreign policy, but certainly being absolutely totally unwilling and refusing to come to the party when it comes to contributing more to our ownness.

put orcus into that equation. Yet put it aside and look at the rest of what we do in terms of our defense forces, our defense structure, our defense personnel, and certainly we do need to make sure that whatever we do is not only affordable, but it is effective. And that's going to be a challenge. But we tend

not to have these conversations. They're too difficult. And the political problem for the Labor government is after the election where they really put so much money into social spending, whether it's Medicare and eis student that's whatever it happened to be. I mean, these commitments that they have made on the domestic side are so big and so budget consuming that it actually doesn't leave much room to do more on defense unless unless you actually raise taxes in

a significant way. That seems to be the message that Jim Charlmons is making in terms of taxes from the last couple of days. It's all about raising more revenue. It's not about using what revenue we have more efficiently in terms of the programs or services, not just defense, but domestic services as well. My sense is we do need tax reform. We do need to actually look at our tax base. We need to look at making sure it works as fairly as possible and as efficiently as possible.

That we've also got to make sure that we don't we don't basically raise money to waste it. That's the other side of it. So doctor Chalmers was prepared to say, we do need to look at what we spend our money on. We do need to look at things doing things better and smarter, but that also may mean we do less that we might actually have to cut some things we can't. That's binding. The bullet on. The tough

stuff is what government's all about. And this government and so I come from the other side of politics, but this government seems very much into wanting to talk good views but not talking about the fact that there is a cost to everything they do.

bastard trick. Look at their investigator, investigative journalist Louise Milligan, who has taken to court the deafination in terms of things that she had said and printed, and basically they were okay. Anthoninetteletu, who is a casual contractors entered for one week while somebody else is on leave. She made a comment about guard which I think showed that very much where she came from politically. That compared to well, compared to some of those other cases, you just wonder

what the fuss was about. I mean, it was one of those things that the ABC management should have blown over. But the other thing is, when it comes to it, she's got her seventy thousand dollars.

So I just think there is a double standard there that within the ABC culture that allowed that to happen. But in terms of in terms of her being well effectively given the flick for a tweet, I'm not sure that's necessarily a good thing.

knows than Howard of GW. Bush, says mel on the text, and this one came in, came in from Leslie. I agree with Terry. Susan Lee lost me with the acknowledgment of the indigenous, totally unnecessarily and divisive. I forecast she won't be leading at the next election, and she says, I hope not. We need a strong mail to combat alban easy and then it's possible that he won't be there. Tony Abbott for PM, says Leslie Jane in Brisbane morning, how are you, Oh.

anything anywhere. Oh, there's a little bit of pub talk about the cost of living. But when they say nuclear is the most important thing, I thought, we're smashed. And

she and Peter Dutton did it. So my advice to Susan they and I'm said before was that she should have retired graciously and gracefully as did Peter Dutton, and used her flying talents which she has certainly got, and her contact in the in the country to go out there and help the problems that the country in New South walesa having with the various things have gone wrong. Because we've certainly got the love in Queensland as well

after the floods and the things. See you in western does Western Queensland, So seasonally go go go now, don't bring any more trouble to this country. And as the quotas and women as sorry, we need a good strong man at this point of time because that's the only way that the message can get over about the things that men do better. And so as the sense and things is because are concerned. But Jim Chalmers, you know, we call him. He's our person, the Bogan from Logan

or Jim Chalmers or Jim Snake Charmers. And I don't say things like that lot. I'm just reporting to you what the people are saying.

that it was effective. But Donald Trump is absolutely furious about that. Donald Trump compared the attack to what happened in Hiroshima.

a toilet and they do have a bed. I mean to believe that the toilet is just, without getting too graphic, the toilet is there and you just have to look the other way. And the bed is something that's just basically a bun come to believe, but well done. Actually getting on board there, that'd be great, Steve. I could imagine that'd be quite for you know, a flight and nothing that would be quite good too. I mentioned a moment ago that Tony Abbott was throwing his support behind

the US strikes. He is what he had to say.

when I think would be completely different. And I think that Steve agrees with that, to bring back Tony Abbot, he says on the text, and just regarding what we were talking about age, Tom said on the text, well Albany's he's sixty two, and Denise said from Randwick, Jane is right, we need a bit of a new blood there. It is seven minutes to four. Hello. I think it's Michael sending me the cricket scores Australia versus West Indies four for one hundred and eleven head fifty one kwaja

out for forty nine. His text from Tony phil Australians need to look forward. It's not too late for mister Abbott. Maybe even mister Friedenburg should be encouraged to return to politics as the Liberal leader. Thank you very much for that. And this one too from Denise that Jane was on the ball and had some good thoughts there. Steve said on the text, costs of living will always be high

as long as labor pushes renewable energy. Susan Lee talking at the Press Club yesterday and I thought listening to the speech, and I have no issue with the glass ceiling and all that. I don't care who's in as long as the person in is the right person for the job. And they've said that this is a poison chalice for her to take over this particular job. But it just feels to me that it was a little apologetic. Susan lay yesterday at the Press Club with this.

route and branch review of the election result. Their review will be frank and fearless, ensuring a thorough and honest assessment of.

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