Overnights with Mike Jeffreys - Monday 16th June

On two GB, four BC and network stations. This is our strainer overnight with Mike Jeffreys.

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Good morning Mike.

Good to be with you.

Now. Q and A got asked although this is very ABC, it was actually picking up in the numbers, I believe, but got asked anyway, And Ten's decided to end the project and people have been predicting the end of ten for a very long time. The drum was given the chop. So the sports panel shows they're going great, but political discussion panel shows not so much. Why do you think are they too dull? What is it?

I don't think necessarily it's dull. I think it's mainly come down to cost cost of putting programs together. Let's have a quick look at the project. There's a lot of paychecks that have to sit on that panel. You know, anything between four and sometimes five panel members on the project, and it's not cheap TV to do. When the project first kicked off, it was almost a spin off off the Panel Do you remember the Panel Market?

Yes?

I do.

Yeah, Yeah, that was a ripper of a show that was a once a week show and it was a very sort of comedy, different look at news and a little bit of fun. A lot of show business around it as well. But when the project kicked off, it was a Monday to Friday then went on to Sunday. It was originally only used and filmed out of Melbourne now Melbourne and Sydney, and it just became a very

I tell you what I don't mind. I do seek it out on Channel ten and that's that show, The Cheap Seats. Have you seen that? I guess you have.

Yeah, I have. I'm looking forward to hearing or seeing myself on there one day. No, it's a little bit of fun, it's a bit's comedy again, but I think sometimes it might be interesting to you from your listeners. I think that I've spoken to many people around the country around the sort of the fall of the panel shows is that they saw the projectors being in verta commerce two woke. A lot of them didn't like Wali Dali.

Talking about what you get and the wokeness, you would be aware of the fact that Greg Guttfeld, with his show on Fox in the US, is out rating the other high profile late night talk shows. He's got more viewers than them put together as far as I know, but he's certainly outrating them all, but they're all pretty woke. They're the old style American format, which I'm not saying is a bad thing, but the stuff that Gutfeld puts to air, I couldn't see executives here allowing that, could you.

No, definitely not.

I think, look, there is a term. I know. We use woke a little bit, we use right wing, we use conservative media quite a lot. I think the Australian media can't really handle that kind of thing. If it's doing very well, it's because it's appealing to a particular audience, an audience that either feels it hasn't been heard before, or is looking for an audience that he wants to know almost you know, that rubber necking. When they see an accident, they just can't take their eyes off it.

Yes, mind you, it does depend a lot on the host. I think I remember going to see Johnny Carson live way back, and he just understood the medium so well. In fact, the night I went to see him live, I thought I've come on a quiet night. But when I went back to the motel, because you know, it was recorded for live, as they say in America, But when I went back to the motel, it was exactly right.

Yeah, and look, you know we've got We've got a very broad range of media here in Australia, and I think a lot of the criticism, particularly around ABC Q and A, was coming from Sky News or coming from Sky as we refer to it after Dark, a very conservative approach to media. They would have a crack and the ABC's Media Watch would very much be looking at what's going on at the Sky News, having little DIBs at each other and questioning their values. I suppose their

Over the years, I have advised my listeners to get their information from a variety of sources. I don't know whether my employers have appreciated me doing or not well.

No, you just think with Mike Jeffreys, everyone, you're doing well listening to mine, but you know in the morning they'll be listening across the other two GB programs and across the other spectrums of media that are out there and just getting good sound information to be able to make your own choice and decision, because that's what we want. We don't want to be dictated to or told how to think or what to do. We just want enough information to be able to make our own decisions.

Yes, I actually wrote that as a positioning statement for a radio station when I was the PD. I said, we tell you what's going on, not what to think.

Yeah, I love that. I used to work for a media monitoring company and we used to give you news you need, not necessarily news you want. And I think too much of us at the moment are just seeking out, particularly on social media, and the younger folk that are running around, they're just getting the news they want and not necessarily the news they need.

What's reaffirming their views. By the way, here's a question without notice for you. But you took us down that path. You're on a media watch. I don't normally watch media Watch, but I've watched it the last two or three weeks and it doesn't look like media Watch to me. It looks like Linton Besser is giving you a digest of what he thought was the news during the week.

Yeah, Linton, since taking over watch it religiously make It's part of what I do. But it has taken on and it's almost getting a little bit too even the bias level. I suppose that he focuses on the commercial networks. He's really going hammer and tongue on that. I've got to say, Linton, I know he'll be listening because they listen to everything. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the show at the moment, but I think he's also just

You're right about Media Watch. It's changed a lot over the years, and may I say it's come a long way from Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells that was its original BBC name. Did you know that?

No?

I did not, And I look at you know, I always laugh at the people that sort of well, I don't always laugh, but I sometimes question why people are so upset when they see themselves on there, and how they react and respond to it. I mean even I've had a text message from Linton regarding a particular segment that was on. You know, you deal and you work with it, But I also say, if we're not rocking the boat, if we're not rattling the trees a little bit, are we really doing our jobs anyway?

Hey, I'm with you on that, Yes, yeah.

So I think it's sometimes it's a little bit of a badge of honor being appearing on Media Watch. It's how you work and deal with them and how you respond to it is a real reflection of the brand.

Nick, appreciate your time and comments. Thank you for coming on the program. Thanks Mine, Nick Hay's media commentator, managing director of Media Stable. Good morning, welcome along if you just joined us. A couple of comments about Greta here. Brad from Lynnfield says, Mike, I have very simple and I suspect rhetorical question about the infamous Greta Thunberg. Has she ever had a job? Perhaps it's time to seek one? Is that like in the TV commercial? Seek just to

And you know it's funny talking about Duckfield. I don't really watch it all that much. But sometimes I go from Jesse Walters to that. And the other night when they were talking about Greta, it was hilarious. They were all very quick witted and I didn't.

See that one. It'll still be there somewhere. I must have a look.

Yeah, it was funny.

But a lot of the time the Americans have a different sense of humor to what we do.

They do and it's.

And I can sit there and everybody's laughing, and I'm just think, what are you laughing at? But I like the English comedies better.

Yes, they have a different approach, don't they. You know, I think about it. I wanted to do something on humor, but at this stage I haven't got a volunteer comedian to discuss it with me. But I must have another go at that. But it seems to me my summation of the difference is that the Yank humor is always about is all about awkward, creating an awkward situation. You watch Seinfeld, you watch Phrasier, even some of the more

You're right, that's Rod.

And do you remember going I'm going back, but I'm sure you remember in the early Love with TV they had that show Love Thy Neighbor, Yes, and things like that. Yeah, he'd say Blackie's next door, and then the black fellow would go into his wife and say, I've just spoken to Whitey. Yes, you know, but no one was offended.

Well, no, we had much broader interpretations of what was allowed as humor, and I think that particularly came from the British. I've always thought Australia produces really good cartoonists and my theory on that, and I do have a theory on everything in the known world, of course, but my theory on why we produce such good cartoonists. We don't have the absolute freedom of speech guaranteed the way the Americans do, so when we want to make a point, we make it a bit sideway. It's a bit oblique.

Yes, yes they are.

But I just think it's a shame even that one with are you being served? And he'd say, are you being served? And you know, so just little things like the commentary in it and things like that and having a sling off at everybody. Yes, you know, we just don't seem to be able to create that anymore, or we're not allowed to do it anymore.

Well supposedly because somebody somewhere might be offended, but my feeling is if they're going to be offended, don't watch.

Well, that's right, And I think honestly everybody remembers forty Towers, Yes, with the gym, don't mention the war. Yes, I mean that was hilarious. I mean it was always it was just such a fantastic show and it doesn't know how many times to see it. It's funny.

I was watching some episodes of Dad's Army and they were making jokes, you know, the English were making jokes about the Germans, and the Germans were making jokes about the English.

Yeah, yes, that's right, and nobody's offended, and it's and it is just funny, you know, And.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

You could go on forever. But it's just a shame. And I think when you were talking to Nick about the panels and about politics. It is all rather boring because they're all woke and they don't want to have a debate.

That's right. I think that's what a lot of people think.

Yeah, all right, all right, thank you.

Thank you, Bye bye.

Jack has called in from Campbelltown. Good morning Jack, Yah.

Yeah, good morning, good morning. Make you're talking about the comedy things. Remember they used to have these comedy shows where where the where the audience was laughing or as of course, you know that the people who were listening to the shoulder and you went for laugh Do you remember that?

Well in a way, But since you mentioned that, do you ever watch that show on the ABC? Would I lie to you?

No, I don't want to know.

And there's another one called Q and I and I quite enjoy them, but the canned laughter is so loud it's annoying. Seriously, they're totally about you and I look.

I mean the ABC is the ABC is paid by the government and therefore, you know, whatever they bring, you know, it has to be sort of whatever government is in power either has to stick the line. Okay. Now, you station is a commercial station, so you also have to observe, you know, what your bosses want you to talk about, isn't it.

Well, I've I got to say for management here, they have never told me what to say. I actually uh went to uh must have been a provost meeting some months ago. People they're saying, oh, yes, and they tell you what to say. Well, no, they don't. Maybe the fact that they know that might be a waste of time. I don't know. I don't don't want to be, you know, two at the provocative unnecessarily. But the fact of the matter is management here have never told me what to say.

Yeah, well, well you're pretty okay, Mike. You are right now talking about that Greta girl. You know, if she doesn't, as you said before, you know, if she doesn't want to watch it, you know, don't watch it. I mean, how dare you say it is one of fostic people to watch some stuff, you know, and before they release them. But I want to say about the I Alis, really they can't hide behind the Holocaust much anymore the way that I carry on.

They hide behind what cars? What cars?

The holocausts? They cannot really hide behind what happened to them is either way they carry on.

Now how the Holocaust? All right?

Yeah, yeah, yes, I can't use that no more much.

You know, you don't think.

The way the carry on mite. Ye have to pay for all that. We gotta pay more, petroal, We gotta pay this, We gotta pay that. We are always the losers. The consumer are the losers. While he's blood Jess who run the countries. I travel around and visit, visiting each other and having fun.

They're special, They're special people.

Okay, you take care, Okay.

See Jack. Bye. Mick from Winston Hills says, good morning, Assassin. Gutfield on Fox News is my favorite show. Really pokes fun at the left mercilessly. Also, yeah, I'm watch it in batches every now and again, And I don't watch any of the other late night talk shows. Are used to watch what his name not a little more anyway, you know what I mean? And who else? Way back in the day, I used to watch Carson. But yes, it'll come to me on the way home in the car. Anyway,

Good morning, Albert, Hi, Mike, how are you.

I'm well, thank you.

That's good to hear. The gunman that dressed up as a police officer that shot the Democrat senators, the media was very quick to point out that that government was a voted Republican. But what I find very strange about the whole thing was that that government had shot a Democrat senator who sided with the Trump administration in not giving the illegals medicaid, which is like our version of medicare. So but given that fact, then you would one would

That murdering you're talking about. Didn't he get a job from one of the Democrats.

I believe it was Tim Walls. He was, He had his contract. I heard from a Los Angeles radio that his contract was renewed. I don't know in what capacity, but he was also closely Tim Waltz knew him and as we all know, or some of us might know in Australia that Tim Walls was the running mate for Kamala Harris in the last American presidential election.

Didn't they call him a tampon tin.

Yes, that's right, tampon.

Tin because he insisted on having tampons in the boys toilet. Yeah.

Well, he's the alpha male of the Democrats in a you know what I mean, in a nigga in an opposite way. But you know what's happening happening in America is it sounds like it sounds like what Antifa and BLM did during the first presidential term.

Yes, it is. You're right, that's that's what it is. And you've only got to look at I notice Murrow here pointed out the distribution of the helmets and face masks to the rioters, and Dale was telling me, you read about somebody who's offered one hundred and fifty bucks a day to join in the riots. But I could top that because somebody on x said he was offered two hundred dollars a day to join in the riots. So it seems like it's funded and organized.

Yes, well, well, what's interesting is independent news sources are saying that the riots in not talking. I don't know about other states of America. Obviously there's one going in Chicago, when maybe a few other cities, but the one in Los Angeles that's been funded by the public, the general public via the Democrats. So the Democrats themselves are funding

Yeah.

OK.

And the guy who does the afternoon shift is the son of Tim Conway Junior.

But you know, I was reading The Hill. I don't know if you read that. It's a Washington publication. It's a little bit left leaning, but it's more sane than most. And they have made the point, as have others. The Democrats have to be very careful about supporting the riots because and other people have made this observation. But I mentioned The Hill in particular because I think they're fairly well,

I think that's correct, and I think it won't be too much longer before the Democrats are implicated directly. In fact, I've heard quite a few smart people who should know better that they're saying that all these protests have got nothing to do with what you think it's got to do with, which is they protesting against the eviction of the illegals who are committing crimes in America. They're saying that that's got nothing to do with that. It's what

Oh yeah, yeah, this is the this is the no Kings thing, this is the dictator idea. Yes, interesting, Albert got to go, but thank you for calling. Thank you, Mike, Okay, we will have the news for you shortly. And Philip, thank you. Yes, that's who I was trying to think of. Letterman. Letterman was as somebody said to me once you got to watch Letterman in case it's a really good night. Some nights he was better than others, but he he

Now onto GB for BC and network stations.

Back to our straight you're overnight, We find Jeffries, good morning. I'll go back to the phones in a moment. But look, here's the headline from the Canberra Times. Don't get taken for a ride by cowboys. And this has to do with the solar business. Don't get taken for a ride by cowboys. Are they talking about rent seeking billionaires who claim, for example, that they can make green hydrogen into a

I'm all right, thinks Can I slip one in?

Well, you usually do, Chris, We're used to it now.

No. I go through the topics and usually I have my main one that I want at the end. But look, I'll slip this one and if I can, if I take that as a guest, you will talk to your guests before and already in regard to the media, I mean, where are the critics from the media. There are very few. Are you to what the ABC. I was a child the ABC News. Now I don't. They've lost me and there's there's something wrong with the ABC needs to be

And you're not being very specific there, Chris, what's your equivalent with the ABC?

It's biased. I think that the ABC and the Labor government are a perfect.

Match there and they aren't as old Jared Henderson says in The Australian. If they attack the government is from a leftish point of view. It always comes Their attack always comes from a leftish point of view. That's the way he sees it, and a lot of people do see them as being very biased. I was watching the other day. First of all, we had Matt Canavan being interviewed and then Nick McKim. Suffice to say Canavan got more interruptions than Nick McKim, and McKim is so far

Yeah, it sounds like you and I and I wouldn't have any time at all over that. But look what I wanted to talk about was Albowy comments about good friends with the US. Oh yeah, well I think he's a great friend with China. The other one is our premier down here, Jacinta Allen. She went from a shelf stacker a short time there with Carl's don't worked for a politician, got it elected and then becoming a premier. She's got no real work or maybe life experience.

Well, you said she was a shelf stacker, so she didn't go straight from high school to UNI and interning in a politician's office and then straight into the politician's office. At least she, you say, did have a job she stacking.

Yeah, it was part time. Elbow had had a couple of years at the common well bankers that tellers, so you know, there's a bit a bit.

So they have had real work, dealing with real people and real jobs at the grassroots. Yeah, but not much of it, you.

Say, no, exactly, not enough of it actually, But look to me, they can't now make decisions, and I think that's probably why Victoria's spent nearly a billion dollars. The same can be said of Daniel and And who's on advice and consultancy. It's a ridiculous amount of money. I mean, can they do anything.

No.

Look, the other thing that I wanted to talk about is Daniel. He has been retired, He's been shown from a golf course several and one wont blame them for doing that. Let's payback for the COVID. But he's almost on as much as he was getting before when he was working. Plus the advantagure is now that he's got his own consultancy businesses, he can do what a pension I can't. He can go earn as much money as he likes outside of politics, and he won't lose any

I think that's a good point, by the way, Chris, I don't know if you recall, I did have somebody on the program a while back making a good case for why retirees should get the pension but be allowed to work. A lot of people don't agree with it, but the main trust of his argument, as I recall, is that we're wasting a lot of experience. They're experienced people who could be working. I think in New Zealand

Michael wait I weigh that you could people Actually, they'll stay out of the hospital, they'll be healthy. The longer I used to get a delivery from a guy and he would come up to the door. I mean, these are the sort of jobs that retirees can do and can fit. So, you know, look at the health benefits they're going to save on medical, medical care and medical expenses. So at the end of the day, balanced out about against the tax that they would be paying. And there

Are Look, I think it's a discussion worth having. You're never going to get it from this government. This government, their philosophy is they want everybody dependent on them so that they just get continually re elected. That's how they think. I can't see them ever supporting what you're saying, but I do think it's something worth discussing anyway, Chris, thank you for calling.

Thank you.

Keith from Ballarat has called in. Greg Keith, good morning, good morning, A quick one.

Belgium is an ideal place for a retired people working, especially in the tourist industry and that type of thing. They're allowed to work. It doesn't matter what they've done in their lives, accountants or anything. But once they retire they can work in like the tourist industry, making beds, doing gardens and all that kind of thing and still.

Get whatever retirement benefits from the government.

Yeah yeah, and they own an extra that's an extra because jobs that people don't want to do. So example, But I want to talk about the problem in America a lot like these problems don't just start yesterday. Like America was built on slavery, like slaves for four hundred years, and if you were well looked at it over the years, and the kidnapping of the slaves, the way they were transported in the ships, packed in like sardines, the way they were thrown overboard, if there was any danger of

Well, are you asking me or are you being rhetorical?

Well, i'm you know, they're never allowed to assimilate. And then from adeen.

Sixty you still have you still think that the positions therein now they've never successfully assimilated into the society. Do you see them still being discriminated against?

Well, from nteen sixty five to nineteen sixty five they had the Jim Crow Laws, which you know was parth height of the worst coin.

And I was talking about this at dinner a while ago, and there's guy there at the table who was very surprised that the Klan was supported by the Democrats because it was the Southern Democrats and all of that. But anyway, the Democrats have changed the tune as we know. But as far as the situation with the what do we say now African Americans, even though they're not born in Africa. You know, it used to be mandatory to say blacks at one stage, but I think we've got out of

Well, maybe a lot of them, but that lot would be a small percentage because when you consider there was probably five and four or five million maybe more slaves brought in and they've multiplied over the naturally they're multiplied to bad families. They've survived, they lived well. Then they show people that have done well, of course, which would do well, but a lot of them have still trated badly.

But if you're not legal, if you're not legal, you know, you say they've been there for several generations. Well, we presume their citizens, then, don't we.

No, Well, if their children are born there and their grandchildren are.

Born there, Yeah, well I'm saying their citizens, aren't they.

Where do we stand.

Back, Well, they're sending the ones they're sending. All the argument is they're sending the people back who came in without getting proper accreditation. But to go to your argument, it was said years ago that the American housewife wouldn't buy orange juice if it weren't for the illegals working for slave wages.

That's right. Now someone has told mister Trump's the president's coat and said, excuse me, Like, we've got a lot of hotels and that they maintained in America, and we need these workers, well, the workers that make the beds and work in the kitchens and do the gardens and that kind of thing. And the farmers have said, well, we need them to work in the vineyards and the orchards and the market gardens. So what do you do to us. You're ruining our economy.

I was actually discussing this with a G. Gankowski who comes on the program fairly regularly. As it turns out, he's an American journalist and commentator over there, and making the point that the people who benefit, as you point out here, are they not the ones that are in the spotlight, you know, the people who do benefit from paying the very low wages. So there's no doubt that that is an issue. But I don't know if it's going to stop Trump, do you think so?

No, he's quite erratic, and like he'll think of an idea and do it and then someone the people that's affecting close to him and give his coat a little token say, you know, they have a bit of a rethink here mate. But then before we finish up, well, Australia was founded on that there was to be no black slaves in Australia. That's why they transported, well my early ancestors out as convicts and they transport them the same way is that the black slaves were transported in America.

Where were you transported from or your foe bears.

Britain and Ireland one hundred and two. They came out eighteen one hundred and four. They were a conviction. They were seated badly on hulks.

And by the way, what.

Did they do to be convicted in the first place?

Well, you could have stolen a handkerchief.

No, no, I'm asking what what did your forbears do?

H one of them stole some clothes, that was the female stole some clothes. Another one on that he well documented what he did. I think they stole from a well to do family and they were put on the hulk in a prison hull for two years before they were transported to Australia on the Coramandel, the ship to Coromandel.

That was I'm just curious because I think this, you know, stole a handkerchief and got sent out here is a bit of a myth. I used to go out with a girl who whose four bears came out as convicts, and the legend in their family was that they stole some clothes. But then it turned out that they were stealing clothes by the what sort of transport would they be using, you know, to transit draze or whatever they used the ant they were stealing them by the truckload.

Basically, oh that's possible. That that was as possible most of them when you think of the times Adien Andrews, most of the people were starving, especially the Irish people were treated.

Like, oh, no question, I'm not arguing about that. In fact, one half of my lot came from Wexford. But they did come out as free settlers, but that was in the eighteen forty eighteen forty. One brother stayed here and one brother went to America.

But quite often when they came out as pretty settlers, the land owner would pay their fare to America or Australia, you know, to not to solve the problem, but to send them for a better life.

Oh well, old man Witty did pretty well. He did have arguments with Nate Kelly, but Apart from that, he did pretty well well.

One of the Irish forbears, he had nine thousand acres like and that he was a part of the land clearance and he managed to buy nine thousand acres in southern Ireland. Will my grandmother's mother came out when she was fourteen, in probably eighteen sixty and get out of the way because if she had to stay there, they would have she would have been killed. So she came out to Australia as a fourteen year old and she was married as soon as she landed. It was arranged marriage.

Do you mean in this country or are you talking about America?

In America? But in this country. I find it impossible to watch sky. I watched Paul Kelly interview the other night by Sharry Marx, and then that cut short because Paul was critical of mister Netanier, who and a couple of other extreme right. If you're extreme right in the stranger they called you a fastist. If you're extreme right over there, they called you a part of their democracy.

See all right, thank you, Keith. Yeah, Charlie is called in from picton. Good Charlie, my good.

So it was Paul Buried at Ran really watched on.

It before this guy before Linton.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well.

He had a great interview with Alan bond a bond up I think in the street and he said remember May and that was when Bondie was trying to prove he had a bad memory. Oh yeah, it's great, great to watch any right, and but but basically I reckon, you know who I reckon? Really? What should employ Roy and h G? I reckon that would that would write its pants off? You know it would? It would be absolutely fantastic.

A bit of entertainment. Yeah. The Blake that's doing it now, you know I said he was he squirms in front of the camera. I when I saw him last he wasn't as bad. But he's still doing it so so maybe somebody had a word to him. But he's not really comfortable. I don't know if he'll ever get comfortable with what he's doing. But I don't think he's fulfilling the brief myself. But it would be fun to see Roy and HG taking the you know what out of Yeah, right, that's right.

And the last thing I was going to say, I don't watch any news programs at night, like Channel nine News ten News seven years, because I find it's snuff. They put on stuff there that I do not want to watch, and like violent people being violent to each other or you know, there's a lot of things that they don't need to put on six o'clock news. I know that it's part of news, but I don't think that you know, seeing road rage, seeing you know, that

So they're playing up the horror in your opinion, Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, that's my opinion. But anyway, that's all I gotta say. And keep up with good work.

All right, Thank you, Charlie.

Okay bye.

Jeff has called in from the Sunshine Coast. Good morning, Jeff, Hey, how are you doing not there.

I live part of you. Every time I come back here, I'm so excited.

Your phone line is not too good. Are you talking right into your phone?

Can you hear me better now?

Yes?

Okay, So I was just saying, I look for about eight weeks of the year here, in the majority of time I live over and I just feel so sorry for young people. They're just bombard with with negative stories that the greater majority of them aren't true anyway. But it's just I just don't understand why people in the media don't start to think more about not the news, but it's just so negative down I just I don't understand.

Well, uh as as the man from CNN said, fear cells.

Yeah, but that doesn't help the citizens Australias who.

Are in the young I think what is more concerning is what young people are told about history and the way some of their teachers go on. I mean, the news is the news. I take your point about it being negative, but U you know, every now and again somebody will try good news, happy news, but it never seems to work. So that's just what human beings are.

I'm just I'm just ignorant very global warming, which maybe or maybe about.

Yeah, a lot of it's a lot of it's either flat out untrue or very much exaggerated. Yes, look, I appreciate your calling, Jeff, but we're having trouble hearing you. Okay, lovely, see you mate, by bye. Here's an anonymous text that says, is it legal to turn someone's power off? My neighbors do it regularly. Do you mean they turn your power off? I've not heard of that before. Why would they do that?

I've been listening and having a bit of a giggle. I'd just like to tell you about some of the adventures that my sister and my friend went through years and years ago. Ama Barishter said, we love horses, and we moved out to ostral and he had horses there. So my sister went into the secretarial course and while she was there she met someone at the tech and she ended up doing a course at Hawkesby Agricultural College and the woman there was just an amazing woman.

She was an a type personality would knock you over like she just knew so much. The only person I know that could talk on the phone, argue with her husband in the next room, and talk to me at the same time giving me directions.

I don't know how she did it.

She was a multitasker. A multitasker she was.

She was amazing. But she was a full on type person. So she had a friend who had a big dairy up at Gostard and he sold sold the cattle and put in stables and made it a plate small like we tired or spelling of thoroughbrees. So he decided he liked Arabian horses, so he had a bit of a point of the bank, and he and this friend of mine went over to Europe to the Middle East to buy Arabian horses. They got to Egypt and they went

So this is great.

So the designer they would go and get a parade saddle. So they asked the guy at the hotel would they taped them into the bazaar and they went in and they walked in and because she's an h type personality, and started talking and the guy wouldn't even answer her. So she had to go and pride him because he was a very quite retricive man, and tell him what

What it?

What do you mean?

They said, Well, the place is surrounded. There's going to be a war. This is the Sixth Day War I think was back late sixties, early seventies. So they rang up and they got a flight out and packed their bags and took off. So they ended up coming back and then they decided that they would go to America. So my sister at that time was working part time up there. And doing a course, and this woman went

Was he I didn't know he was a horse lover, but yeah, you're gone.

Oh he has Arabians in the way. He's got a big start outside of Davids.

Okay, well they are magnificent creatures, but go on. Yes, Well.

They went to America and they had to argue, almost like give blood to get this horse, which they was a mating of a full brother to Bull's sister. They got it back and I was up there at a horse show and I said, can I see this thing? No, you can't see it. And I said, I came on way people to see this horse, and I was judging the show, and I thought, I've got to see this thing. So he went up to feed it, and I followed

With these horses.

Okay, and he.

Paid a motza for it. I'm telling you a mozza. So they went to the Middle East to get the horses. The Americans had bought them all up. They had to go to America to buy them, and they paid big bucks and they brought it back and he was very happy with what he did in the finish, but it cost him an absolute mozza. But he was happy. He had his horses, and he had his mares, and he was raking the money from thoroughbredge So.

Well, it sounds like the good life. What happened to the saddle?

Oh love this.

They got it home and they had this lovely krabbit stallion and they put it on him and he just went really well and he ended up he won an event at Sydney oyl and he won the stallion under saddle, so they were pretty My sister, of course, rode and it was very very good. We had a really good life back then. Seventy nine. Now, I mean I don't think i'd I could get up and go out the back and start, you know, picking up the horse mirror

The horses went berserk.

If you just imagine under the board walking all of those really noisy.

Yeah they were dancing horses.

Yes, they just stood there and didn't turn their hair. And everyone said what drugs did give? It should nothing because if you win, they can take urine from your course.

Well yeares that's right, taking tests and they do and they did. Yeah.

I had a lot of a lot of fun. So I'm just telling me some of the fun they had good old days back in the Little Leaf. And here we are now, what two thousand and twenty five, and they're still over there fighting and killing each other.

They've been doing it for a long time now. Yep. I thought you were going to tell me back then that they lived pretty much the same as everybody else in the Western world. But then, of course seventy nine the Aya Toler and his mob took over and it became very different.

Now that wasn't too good.

No, indeed, Pat, thank you for calling.

I enjoy listening to you. You're an amazing man. I just wish you were on a bit more.

I love you boys, Thank you very much.

You're are very very good at what you do. Thank you for keeping me going during the night by butte.

Okay, see your Pat. I have eleven short texts here from Denise. Yes, I've read them, Denise. Denise was marveling at Pat's stories. Yeah, I was just curious. It struck a bit of a chord with me talking about the Fancy Saddle because my granny way back. The people who were making I think it was the Ned Kelly movie

Hello? Hello, Hello, I just want to word folve you that I've got a granddaughter who's been diagnosed with ADHD, and I've put my foot down on any drugs being administered because work five years as a psychiatric clinic and if a child is diagnosed with a mental disease, they stay like it right through to adulthood for the rest of their lives. Drugs do no help whatsoever. They actually stop the child's brain from developing.

Right, So, how's this going down with the parents.

Oh, very well, my grandmughder takes notice of me.

Right, And so your granddaughter is the one that's been prescribed the drugs.

Oh her daughter?

Oh, her daughter, says your great granddaughter.

Yeah, that's right, right.

And how old is the little girl has been prescribed the drugs.

I think five. The brain is still developing. You can't give a child drugs. And also it's a long term treatment. Reason why why ADHD is escalating and so many children are being diagnosed. It's a cash cow for the doctors and the drug companies.

Right, Okay, So you say it doesn't work and it retards the brain development of the child, Yes, okay, And you've observed this yourself and it's you're very strongly of that opinion. Yes, okay.

And I think that all people should be awake to the fact that doctors are business men and they've got to make a living, and so have the drug companies. And they may prescribe something, and so long as it doesn't kill the patient, they keep on doing it.

As long as it doesn't kill the patient, they keep doing it. I suppose there's not much point in prescribing it if the patient's dead.

No, but I'll tell you a joke which has a great deal of truth in it. There you go on, and this about a doctor went on holiday and left his newly graduated son, who was a doctor in charge of each clinic. When he came back, the sun was elated. He says, Oh, gee, dare I've cured missus Murphy's ulcer and the doctor ship white. Do you realize Missus Murphy's ulcer put you through medical school?

I see, all righty, thank you, Wendy.

Okay, good bye, bye bye.

David says, good morning and hello to everyone in Australia. From everyone at the Chugan Billiards Club in hang to Shanghai and China. Please look at your email for photos of the Chew Gang billiards club that Chris said he had a look at the emails and hasn't seen any photos. You get any photos, Dale, Dale's indicating something. I have no idea what it meant. He seemed to be pointing to his own head and moving the fingers around. What does that mean? Dale's lost his mind yet? What he's

Now on two GB four B and network stations. Back to our spray your overnight with Mike Jeffries, Good morning.

Welcome along, have just joined us. Why would you just join us at this hour of the morning. You finished work, you're going to work, you just woke up from a bad dream. I don't know, Jeff says, good morning. The sliding doors moment here in Australia is when Bob Hawk decided to use monies put aside for the Jack Gordon Beale Works program by Malcolm Frasier. For other things, no dams or flood watered diversion was entered into. Some flood

I know.

We blame that on people like Tim Flannery who said it's hardly going to rain at all. What was it The rain not only won't fill the dams, the earth will be so dry the earth won't even soak it up, or something like that. But because it hasn't worked out that way at all at all. But then you wonder whether, well there were special arrangements made behind the scenes to build a dam desalination plants. That's dam with an end. We should have been building the other kind, the one

Now that Mike, how are you?

I'm very well, thank you. When it comes to watches, men in particular seem to like watches. I'm not saying that women don't. I've mentioned in the past over the years, I've given the occasional lady friend to watch, but I know deep down it's because I like watches, not necessarily that's what she wanted. So what's the fascination with watches? Do you think because there's such remarkable mechanical devices.

Or what is it?

Well?

I think so, and I do agree with you that men seem to be more attracted to watches and collecting watches than the ladies are. I do have ladies that do have their watches, but the guys seem to go in for them.

I don't know.

I guess it's a little bit like them liking to collect cars and so on. But a lot of men don't wear a lot of jewelry. I don't wear jewelry, but I love my watches, and I think mechanical watches are more attractive to guys that like to collect watches as well. Some people like battery powered watches, but mechanical watches, I guess, are more traditional with their mechanisms.

Yes, there's so much going on in there in such a small space. I think that's a large part of it. I did have a accompaniment to an iPhone for a while until the iPhone fell out of my pocket and crashed. So I've gone back to wearing watches again, and it's sitting in the drawer with the other watches. But there's been some very expensive watches over the years. Tom Brady, you know, the famous quarterback in the US. He was seen out the other day where a watch worth seven

M h.

It seems like a fairly decent price for a watch.

Well it does.

Yeah, Look, I'm not familiar with that particular watch, but I think the turbion may refer to the type of escapement in the watch, the mechanical escapement. I'm not familiar with his watch. Whether the price tag is related entirely to the mechanism. Sometimes watches gold with diamonds and so on, and that can make up a large part of the value of the watch. But certainly some of the more well some of the more prestigious mechanical watches and can

Never made a watch.

Yeah, there's some nice watches out there.

Would you like to do that? Would somebody pay you to make them a bespoke watch?

Oh goodness, I wouldn't have the time, I mean to do that. You you would need to be really well practiced with your machinery and so on, and it would take a lot of practice. You know, you'd have to be doing it over and over again and have access to some really top line production stuff to get the job done.

I think.

On the subject of the expensive watch, there's one of Ibilli to leave half a dozen roll exes that used to belong to Paul Newman that's sold at auction for depending on what story you believe, either fifteen point five million dollars or seventeen point eight million dollars. It's Daytona Rolex.

Not much difference between those two when you're getting up into that league. Yeah, look, rocks. A lot of the rolicses are. There's a lot of brands that are collectible for different reasons, but certainly the fact that he owned it would bump the price up and roles to sort of have a tendency. I think more recently they restrict I mean the age of that one makes it collectible, and the fact that Paul Newman owned it, but maybe tend to restrict supply and push the market and the

So do people ever come to you. There's a quaint story A lady I know told me a couple of years ago. She's very well off herself, but as somebody who we could charitably describe as a colorful Sydney identity to impress her, apparently had a whole lot more diamonds put around the bezel of his rolex. Do you ever get that kind of request?

Look, I don't know. People would go to a lot more high for looting establi establishments than mine to have that sort of work done. I mean that sort of work is the job of a jeweler to set diamonds into a watch?

No, I'm more.

Repairs, restoration, stainless stainless steel. I don't work. I mean I have serviced gold watchers, but I don't work with them in that way to put diamonds on them.

Know.

Anyway, The punchline to the story was she scoffed at it because she thought it was crass, and so it didn't work for him.

Aha, it doesn't always work.

No, apparently not. But the kind of work that you do, I mean, is it draining? Or you've done it for fifty three years? Do you love it? Somebody said somewhere your second generation?

Is that right?

Yeah?

Look, I haven't done it for fifty three years. The shop has been in operation for fifty three years. Okay, and Swiss fellow started the shop in seventy two. I started working for him in eighty nine. I worked alongside him and then we were into partnership, and then when he retired, my wife and I bought the business. So I did my trade in country New South Wales with my father in Waldot and I started my apprenticeship in

It's still pretty decent innings.

It is a decent innings, yeah, but I really do enjoy the work. I don't know if I it'd say it's draining. I guess the long hours are draining, which is part of the reason why, well, the main reason why we've closed the shop. It's not because we're not busy. I'm absolutely flat out. I've got that much work that I can't keep up with it. I've do long hours, and my wife and I've reached the stage in life where it's time for us to slow down a little bit.

I don't have one of those great collections like some guys you know that have a whole sideboard full of watches. But I've got a few, and I mentioned to you before we actually started recording, I've got one that I bought at auction and I didn't pay much for it. But since I bought it, a couple of watchmakers told me, oh, you've got to watch here that's got a Rolex movement. And I didn't realize that had anything to do with Rolex, And like I say, I just bought it at auction

I guess another possibility is that it might be a replica or a copy right, and so you might get the brand on the dial saying it is such and such. But then when the watchmaker opens it, or not even needing to open it, sometimes you can't tell from the outside, but as soon as you look inside, you know that the movement is as described by that watchmaker.

Perhaps I know somebody in this business. He and I are not great mates, but a couple of things he's done do make me laugh. He was at lunch with somebody who said, and I noticed this. With people who knowingly buy a copy of an expensive watch, they feel obliged to tell you. Maybe that's because they don't want you to think they were taken in by it. Anyway, this fellow said, look at this, it's a rolex. You

That's possible, he Look, the imitation watches come in varying lacks of quality, you can put it that way. Some of the imitations maybe water resistant, some of them may ask that. Yeah, the quality of a copy watch varies from very poor to better.

Anyway, Nick, there's no doubt, as we've discussed that people like watches, particularly men people, and I guess they will continue to do so. And there's much more interest in a mechanical watch than there is in the kind that comes with your eye, although they do good things as well.

I guess they have their place.

Yes, indeed, but you're not giving up that you're selling up the shop. Why are you selling the shop? It's being developed to something the whole more.

No, look, Neutral Bay is under a redevelopment. I don't know if you'd call it a cloud. That's just progress living in the city and the need for accommodation, I suppose. But there's a lot going on in Neutral Bay that my wife and I had made this decision regardless of what was going on around it around us. For us, it's just time for a change. It's not because we're

Sounds like a plan. I wish you well with it. Nick, thanks for coming on the program.

Thanks Mike all the best.

Thank you Nick Peers. In the second Generation Watchmaker some watch Talk, Bruce says, I bought my Pulsar watch in nineteen ninety five and it hasn't missed a beat. I would only have an analog watch, brackets, none of this digital stuff. I don't think I've got my first watch. I so pleased to get it. It was an automatic you know, when you move your wrist, it automatically wines, and yeah, I was very happy to get it. Judy says I love watches and have ten. I even have

And now on Overnight's Entertainment with Alex First.

Help you.

Always a good cause, letting us entertain you. Alex First as a film, theater and entertainment reviewer and editor of I Tell You What I Think dot Com? Good morning, How are you?

I'm well, indeed, and I'm excited because I've seen probably the best shark movie since yours.

Wow, that's a big call, it is, and it's.

An aussy movie. I just think that is brilliant, because what do you think about yours? And all these years later? It was so influential, wasn't it.

Oh? Yes, I remember when I went to see it, and I'm not one much for horror, but it was just good. Well, what can you say? But it was just fun good cheap thrills.

Oh yeah it was.

But it was so well made yep as well, And it's funny. There are movies that stick with you and you'll never forget that.

This was one of them.

I remember it scares the living, but Jesus out of you when you see it. I mean, Steven Spielberg got a great director, he is anyway, But the performance. You think about the names, Roy Scheider, Robert Shaw.

Richard Drave, Yes, that really made it.

You talk about the scary aspect though I don't know whether she was just doing it to humor me, but I suspect maybe it did stay with her. One of the wives I used to sneak up on her and go da da da da dah it and she'd say, don't do that.

Well, that's the other.

Thing about if you get this right, the scores stays with you, and this one did.

So.

Look, there's been a lot of other shark movies, and then there've been spoofs like Shark Nado.

That was fun.

That was fun.

I agree, And having said that, a lot of people don't want to go to the cinema to get scared. So there's a decision here when I'm going to talk about Dangerous Animals, which is the movie that I'm referring to. It's rated with very good reason, and it's got a nice running time of ninety eight minutes, so big, big

Is really what makes this okay.

So the Australian act Jy Courtney is just so damn good. Really, I suppose you make a name for yourself if you're a good baddie. And that's what Gy Courtney is here, positively chilling. He plays as roll as a Gold Coast charter boat operator by the name of Bruce Tucker, and he specializes in taking tourists out the sea and dry helping them into the ocean in a shark proof cage to watch these apex predators up close and personal. Now, I don't know, is that something that you could ever

Off on it.

I don't know, would you do that?

I did that to a contributor on the Breakfast program I was running way back. I put him in the shark tank at Manly Aquarium as it was then.

Really and how was the experience for the person?

Well, it certainly generated a lot of interest.

I was going to say a change of clothing. Perhaps. Having said that, we basically witness what this character Bruce Tucker does when a couple of people who tourists won a Canadian and the other a brit They take the plunge and they were going.

To go to Sea World.

I mean they missed the boat, so to speak, and they decided to try this whole operation with the charter boat operator. Anyway, there's more to this guy than meets the eye. And that's when you get the introduction of an American, a strong world American called Zephyr. I kind of like that name.

Z Thyr used to be a car whee all craved called Afford zephyrt.

Correct, yeah, exactly, played by Hasse Harrison. And she's a loaner with quite a harsh background and she's trying to sort of well leave behind the bad experiences in America. She's come out to Australia to serve and she has a chance meeting with a real estate salesman called Moses played by Josh Houston, and he's trying to buy some jumper leeds to start his car, and Zephyr is kind of wary of him, but in time she warms to him and the pair ends up making out. Now she's

And that's when the real drama.

Begins in Dangerous Animals, because the seemingly affable Tucker is anything but he is in fact a serial killer who likes trapping women and feeding them to the sharks.

Hmm, it seems like you've trouble.

To go too, but yeah, well yeah, all the while filming their agonizing final moments, you don't right. And Zephyr fortunately is a real fighter who, despite the position in which she is in, she isn't going to go down without an almighty struggle. And that's what makes Dangerous Animals such a good film. And the writer is a guy called Nick Leopard, and it's quite an outrageous screenplay. So this is not conventional and it benefits from all these

Smile on his face.

And how else can I put this?

He takes pride in his work. Now, a lot of people have turned off around about now.

I get that, but I don't know that there will be people who will really like to go see this. So on the horror films go or what do you give it?

Well, I was going to say, Hattie Harrison's really potent and highly pragmatic as the loaner Zephyr, and she sort of brings attitude to Burn, So look good on the director Sean burn Milk the radical conceit for all Agaan, and the tension is palpable. I reckon this is really it's provocative and grizzly, so seven and a half, maybe even pushing an eight out of ten from movie that is going to appeal to some. It's right at Ma again ninety eight minutes.

Dangerous animals, dangerous animals. I was thinking about your question of me, you know, sending the guy to the shark tank and the manly aquarium. Would I do it myself? Let me just say this to you, Alex. It was a good day for me in my life when I learned to delegate. Now what about materialists?

Well, how difficult? And you can answer this, how difficult is it to find your perfect match?

Ah? Gee, I don't know you have a perfect Do you.

Have a perfect match? That's the first question.

Well not at the moment, but I suppose over the years I have had, But you know they weren't forever perfect matches.

And that's the point. So look, if you to buy, if you were to buy into the conceit of materialists in rateed one hundred and seventeen minutes, then you're basically using the term shark again. It's a shark pool out there, and finding mister Omer's right is the stuff of nightmares. And that's why they turned to this matchmaker Matchmaker Extraordinary

Up to it.

Okay, what did you give it? In the end?

Look?

Probably a six to six and a half out of ten for some materialists. M rated one hundred and seventeen minutes. Not a bad film, but not what I would call a great movie.

Okay, Alex, we'll talk to you next week.

Always good to talk.

And go out and see a movie if you haven't seen one for a while. Don't just sit at home and watch it on streaming. You know, support the cinemas.

Alex is a film, theater and entertainment reviewer and editor. I tell you what I think. Dot com good morning. We will have the news for you at three o'clock Australian Eastern Standard time. May not apply to all listeners that time. Here's something If only Dale had known about this. You know, Dale was with Crooked during the week, but he's better now. He says he could have gone to this Filipino healer. She treats sick people with pit viper bites.

MM hmm.

His name is Sir Elias Meyer, a competitive powerlifter, said he decided to take on the title for the lowest time spent in direct full body contact with snow after discovering no one had yet cracked the two hour mark. The previous record, said by a Polish man Valre and Romanovski in twenty twenty two, stood it an now forty five minutes and two seconds. So this guy, wearing only the swimsuit, was buried under a mound of snow for

Now on two GB, four BC and network stations. Go back to us right you're overnight with Mike Jeffrey.

Good morning. Here's a text from Susan says, this morning, Mike enjoining your show this morning as always. Thank you Susan, so glad you and dale On and that shark movie sounds like a comedy, really pretty grim comedy, if that's the way you see it. The shark movie sounds like a comedy. Well, I suppose depends what you see as being amusing women being ripped apart by sharks. Maybe JJ would like that. Listen to this, JJ, You know JJ sends in texts here he's talking about the viper treatment.

Or you.

Just confusing your Shakespeare? You know the phrase how sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child? That's from King Lear. But you knew that.

JJ.

I also says, buried a nice mike to keep his mind busy for a couple of hours that he was buried. This fellow might have recited wordsworth trip up Mount Snowden in his prelude, I mean book the fourteenth. Thus, in one of those excursions made their near fade from remembrance through the Northern tracts of Cambria, ranging with a youthful friend. I left Bethel Glert's huts at couching time and westward took my way to see the sunrise from the top

How about this?

These Chinese Shanghai authorities recently moved a traditional Sheikerman style building complex at a pace of ten meters per day with the help of an army of four hundred and thirty two hydraulic powered robots. The headline is Chinese city moves entire historic neighborhood using hundreds of hydraulic legs. The Hawanli complex, located within xiang Yuan in Shanghai's Jing'an district has been touted as China's largest relocation project of its

No, no, no, no no.

He shook his head, which, of course is a gesture that always works well on the radio. A couple of things. Before you adopt your National Days persona, adopting your film critic persona, you can understand why a listener thought that the what's it called the animals movie? Yeah, Dangerous Animals, Dangerous Animals was a comedy.

Look, I don't know. It certainly doesn't it's certainly not a comedy. But Jai Courtney in it, who plays the serial killer, is such a congenial. But also he looks like he's having so much fun doing the nasty things he's doing. Maybe the trailer shows him like with the big you know, the big laugh and the big smile

Hmm, okay, but not a comedy.

No no no, speaking of that, well, no no no, we'll see no no cat thinks it's no no for a comedy too.

Well, Mick was asking, whereas the no no cat just heard Mike's clearest no no, no ever and no cat that we did bring it in non queue there with dale por no no cat.

Well, I'm no longer with us.

I'm a bit worried about this, this cat that I'm minding for a lady friend, because it was so happy. You know those little oil column heaters. I turned on one of those in the cat discovered it's such a lovely warm spot. It's so happy being near the heater. And when I came into work, I thought, well, I leave it like that. No, I don't burn the house down, and so I turned it off. But it takes a while for it to cool down. But I'm thinking of

Our heads are pretty safe, though, I mean, you certainly wouldn't leave one of those bar heaters on. I wouldn't know, no, But then again, I wouldn't leave a heater on if I wasn't in the house.

Well, that's for the sake of the cats. I'd be tempted, That's what I thought. I mean, the cat seem so happy. I was tempted. But in the end I thought, no safety provided. No, no, no, no, no, We've had enough no notice for the moment. Let's have this National Days brought to you by Tim Tams.

Nothing goes down better in the middle of the night than a beautiful Tim.

Tam and a nice cup of tea. So you got some National Days.

Oh Fudge Fudge Day, Yes, today's Fudge Day can be closed fudge because it's funny the term of fudge. When something goes wrong with your fudge, something it actually ties in with how it came about.

Really.

Yeah, but you know there's a lot of eyes like fudge. There used to be a when I worked at road show down at Darling Harbor, when they actually had a big shopping thing down at Darling Harbor, they pulled it all down. Now, there was a little fudge shop there and it had samples, so we used to unobtrusively during lunchtime, just walk past and then walk back again five minutes.

Oh, Nick, your fudge.

Oh yeah, but the fudge a really good fudge. You wouldn't want to eat too much of it anyway. You have to eat it in tiny bits because it's just so so sweet.

Yeah yeah.

But according to legend, Mike, a confectioner loved while trying to make Carroll but ended up creating something just as tasty, which is obviously turn out to be fudge. The fudge originates from a messed up batch of camels, since the name so the actually, oh fudge, I messed this up. Oh this is actually pretty good. Have you ever tried to make fudge? I take it.

No, no, no, but no no.

Fudge can come in different forms. I mean you can get fudge topping, oh yeah, and you can get more solid fudge. Oh yeah.

I tried to make fudge one time. I had some big, huge bag of marshmallows that were on sale at Wilworth and I said, oh, oh, I like marshmallows so they were sitting there for ages and then I thought, oh, how can I make in the fudge? Because I knew that was one of the recipes. So I used I always get this wrong chat TPG or tea Chi, I can't remember which one of these. I used that to give me a fudge recipe, and.

It was.

It tasted great, but it didn't turn hard. It still was sort of like you pick it up and a gat like bendy floppy. Oh yeah, I still tasted good though.

But yeah, we're not stroying into one of those TV ads.

No, definitely not. Okay, Yeah, but it was in eighteen eighty six that's when fudge originates from the messed up batch of caramels which I mentioned. Eighteen eighty six, a fudge sold in Baltimore at forty cents a pound for the first time. That was the first time it was

You know you talk about you like your biscuits.

I do, and I'm off them again. No, I haven't had any tonight, I swears. I like these little sponge things with some kind of filling in them. Jam the little round one one like a rolly thing.

Yeah, but they've got this clear white sort of filling in them. Anyway. They're called ginger kisses.

Oh where do you get them? I don't.

That's a supermarket. But when I can't find them, I feel a bit sensitive about a grown man saying, excuse me, where are the ginger kisses? Right here?

Sweet here? Now here's one you should do, Mike, you should have done today. And I always wish I had have done this. It's take your cat to work day.

Oh yes, sir, I could have done that.

I suppose, yes, I could have because it's nice and warming here. It's toasty woman, that's true.

It would have been happy in here, I guess.

Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know if I would have. I always thought when I was very much attached to my last cat. In no way, and I don't have a cat or Mick, I don't have another cat. I always felt it would have been nice to have Bord along because she was such a good cat. She just loved being anywhere I was. She was very coomfortable being there because she was a bit like a dog.

Oh, I don't think it would have worked with this cat, because this cat wants constant attention. It's one of those cats. If you're talking to somebody on the phone, it comes up and wants to head butt you and say what about me?

Me?

Me?

So if it came in here and I'm talking on this thing, it'd be you know, what about me?

Me?

Me?

And it'd be headbutting and like a pone and me and purring and yeah. So I don't know if it would have succeeded.

Yeah, I might mention. Also sorry it left the treat right beside Clinton made Heart's desk. I made sure I got rid of it. Say Clinton didn't have to do it.

Oh I see, Okay, Susan's as I had the best ever fudged little shop in York in England. Very nice. Those poems can make make fudge. Mick says. How these cats got the better off as a warm bed e meal and keep the noise down. Very shifty, says Mick. Jerry says, okay, Jerry. Ginger kisses were popular on Gilligan's Island. Wum tish Jerry from Sutherland. Yes, oh yes, did you brightened up an adolescent's day? Indeed?

But Marianne got the most male, did she? She did? Indeed, I think it would have been because I think it was the way they I heard it mentioned in It was in a documentary I saw it said that they wanted to date Ginger, but they wanted to marry mary Anne. She was the marrying kind. The cats were domesticated back around ten thousand BC that we use as vermin control during the rise of agriculture three thousand and five BC. Ancient Egyptians. They love their cats, mic they were very

Yeah?

When I was in primary school, we had to venerate arbor Day or something. Oh yeah, is that the same thing.

Well, I must have probably had something to do with. But we show appreciation of these unsung heroes of tree cultivation, maintenance, and management. I suppose in non botanical gardens, I imagine they'd have professionals go through there and check out the trees.

I suppose, So, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

I don't think she was an aborist, but I told her this story. Was it last year? Got a knock on the door and I went out there hill Rump, who was waking me up and there was a tree that had come down out front and crashed in in front of my house. I slept through it, and the councilwoman was there, and they just wanted to let me because it was right across my fence, against my house and against where I was sleeping. But I didn't totally oblivious. It didn't cause any damage.

Yes, I the housewms with lots of big trees about him. My mother was always worried they're going to fall in the house. So me and the boys took a photo of us leaning against the trees to keep the house safe well and sent it to mother. I don't know whether that calmed to fears.

I probably did, But in this case, the woman was actually this is what the guys who ended up coming around to cut up the tree told me. The woman was there inspecting the trees and it actually fell down while she was inspecting it.

Tim, I know those trees.

Yeah, But anyway, the original of oh god, a bora culture, A bora culture, Am I saying that word right?

I'm probably med?

Yeah, traces back to ancient times. It was infertile Crescent that the first trees were cultivated in Mesopotamica. In Egypt. Owing to migration and trade exchangers, techniques in aberriculture were developed and the profession spread throughout Europe. The date palm tree was the first to be cultivated in the Middle East because of the popularity of its sweet fruit. By six thousand BC, Mike Asia began cultivating olive trees, which

There it is again. Yeah you remember stan Ze Manik. Oh, Yeah, stan had a very nice house on the northern side of the spit. And for people who can't picture Sydney, beautiful area, it's a beautiful area overlooking this big patch of water. And anyway, there was this tree, a giant conifer of some confer obscuring stands view and he wanted to cut it down to the council said no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. They said, where's the cat. We'll wait

Oh so it's got a nice little ball spot.

So it had the top and then it had the bottom that you could see through the tree. Oh, it's nice. It worked.

It was a win win for everyone, I suppose. Yes, yes, I think we need a break.

Yeah, Dom says arborist day a day celebrating men with no teeth and to charge like wounded bulls. Fascinating, she is, Dom, What does that mean? I don't know.

Maybe he's had an arborist and they didn't have any teeth.

Denise says, I love trees. Sharon says high Mike and Dale, is there cat jackets that you know of? My cat is outside. Thank god it's not snowing. Yes, I don't like hair everywhere, says Sharon, worried about her cat being cold. But most cats, I know it's smart enough to keep their given fur coats. Oh, yes, indeed, I think they're Okay. I have seen I have seen a cat in.

A little coat. I think it'd be hard to keep it on it.

Yes, I don't think they'd take a world of clothing, but anyway. Sharon also says tries Summer Rolldale Summer Roll Newgar.

Oh they're nice.

You will love it. Okay, so bothered me here one time, and I scoffed quite a few. Susan also says Dale, don't get rid of the Mulbury tree. They're so tasty. I think mulberry pie and jam et cetera. They cost a bomb at the shops.

Yeah, I know, but it also attracts the bats. I did when the tree was a lot bigger, before I really hacked it back. I did take a big, big, big bowl of Moulbery's down when my mum was still around, and I think her neighbor made a pie out of it. It was the last time we.

Had that mulberry pie. But Mulbury's kind of decline as the tree gets older, because when the tree is young, they're great, big, slightly tart berries, but they get smaller, and when the tree is quite old, they're really small and kind of sickly, so they only have a certain time. Yes, anyway, we'll take a break National Days with Dale. What do you go on?

And it's fresh Veggies Day, Mike. I like this day. I try if I get the opportunity, and I did this on the weekend. I go down to Patty's Market to stock up on quite a few things. I had a custard apple yesterday.

I ate that you don't like them.

I'm going to try and keep the seeds and see if I can grow them. I sort of reasonably easy to sort of wrap them up in paper. Wait from this brown.

They are on the list of things that I don't like because we had such a glut of them when I was a kid in Pasland.

Oh okay, now I haven't had one since I was a kid, and when on the Patty's market, I saw it and said, oh, I have one of those, because I haven't had.

One for a while. But we had to eat all these things like mangoes, you know, because there were poor people in China who have mangoes.

Oh yeah, I think I caught that when I was a kid. I'm not sure if I copped that with the tripe. Yeah, I probably didn't matter what I was threatened to with. I could sit there all night, I would not touch.

The true Yes, well, mama, don't you put him in the back of the station wagon and take them over to the poor people in China?

Oh lordy LORDI anyway, I do like fresh vegetables, and obviously a lot better than the if you get the opportunity, it's a lot better than getting the ones that are possibly put in cryogenic freeze.

For a while. Watching my show the other day where a woman said she was telling the truth that she ate twenty five carrots to day, it seems like a lot, doesn't it.

Twenty five carrots?

Yeah, I mean I do like carrots, but twenty five a day seems a lot.

So do I.

But if I like, if I ate one, I wouldn't feel like anyone for like months.

Well, the amount she was eating she was going to skin went orange.

That wouldn't surprise me. I've read that that actually does happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe it's better than getting going and getting a Sun Tannery. Here's what I do like also, Mike, I have visited quite a few. I did quite a few in Canada and quite a few places. It's International Waterfall Day.

Oh yeah, that sounds nice.

Which beautiful I mean great place. I mean, I'm sure every way it's got it's great places to go and check out some waterfalls, whether it be the Blue Mountains or down in any of the national parks. But I've seen some beauties. I always remember in Utah, I was in a little town called Nephi. Me and my friend were traveling and the snow hadn't the snow was still around, and there was We asked, because I was visiting a friend that I'd previously met in Utah, you.

Were visiting one of your four wives near one of those because they used to allow that back in the day.

Yes, And so we asked where there were some waterfalls, told us where there were, and this was We ended up going in the waterfall and this was water which was melting off the mountains. We still had snows, so we got in the freezing cold water. Tangy then it was, but it was very very nice. But European explorers used

Well, that are marvelous natural features.

Now I can't the place I went on a cruise in New Zealand to go down and see these amazing waterfalls, which obviously most of them are caused by the snow melting off the mountains.

What have you so?

Yeah, Finally, Mike, it's World Sea Turtle Day. Is it this to raise awareness about the plight of the sea turtles?

Mike?

Did you know that every year about eight tons of plastic had dumped into our oceans. That's extremely hazardous the sea turtles, poor turtle, so much so that six out of eight marine turtle species are on the verge of extension. And they are delicious tur I my dad.

I don't think I could bring myself to eat anything turtle sourced.

No, no, I couldn't do that.

I couldn't at all.

But the only reason I've ever heard of turtle soup is because of Gilligan's Island, Okay, And I don't think even then. I don't think I would have eaten turtles.

I don't.

I can't imagine what of them taste like, but I can imagine that I wouldn't like the taste of it.

So what do you tell me? They were going to visit the galapagus, and I said, be sure to give my regards to the turtles. Oh, they're pretty big apparently.

Yeah, two shaped member, two shape turtle. No, that was a cartoon. It was one of the Hanniba bearer and had a turtle who had a sword. It was a two see away.

A turtle was a toil. You don't expect that thing?

Yeah, yeah, foiled again. The decline in the turtle green turtle population. This is in the seventeenth century. They decline from ninety one million down to thirty thousand. That was possibly because they were hunted and eaten. I guess, so yeah, yeah, seventeenth century decline in hawks hawks bill turtles. The population of hawks bill turtle decreases from eleven million to less than thirty thousand, So there's a couple of different turtles

I've never really done anything for turtles, but I like to feel that I've done my bit for the training long neck tortoise. Oh yeah, because we used to keep the gloves in the car, the tortoise gloves to pick them up because they'd be there. You know, their defense against to be double running them over was to withdraw arms, legs, heads and tail and sit in the middle of the road. So I used to pick them up and take them and put them in the creek. And I've done so

But see turtles among the oldest creatures on Earth, Mike, having remained unchanged for one hundred and ten million years. Well, like Keith Richards, when you've got to design this week for you, white change. Yeah, like sharks. I suppose in a lot of cases they got a little bit smaller. Yeah, they pretty much have stayed the same. Like crocodiles as well.

Yes, the crocodile accused to being a dinosaur in North Carolina.

I think they are a dinosaur. Yeah, and good for when you talk about the dinosaurs disappearing. But you can look at certain critters that we're still used to seeing, like hippopotamus and stuff, and they look pretty prehistoric to me.

They certainly do. And they'll bite you if you give them a half a chance. Yeah.

A female turtle uses its rear flippers to dig nest hole and then lays about one hundred eggs. After laying the eggs, the turtle covers them up, camouflages and nest site before returning to the ocean.

The job is nesting.

Turtles may return to the nesting site for laying eggs several times and usually nest every two to three years. And obviously they do it in such abundance because not all of them make it. They might get down, they can eaten by a seagull.

Yes, yeah, all right, thank you Mike. That's National Days with Dale. Thank you Dale. How to know if a relationship is worth it? How to evaluate your relationship? Somebody who's studied this is strategic psychotherapist Bronwin Penn Halligan. Good morning, Bronwin, Thank you for doing this.

Pleasure happy to be here.

So how can you tell if the relationship is worth it? You know, do you sort of evaluate by saying, well, I'm happy sixty percent of the time, eighty percent of the time, or I don't know, what do you suggest?

Look, I think the really fun facts about relationships are that they are very fluid and very dynamic situations. So you know, every single day we're working with a whole bunch of different variables. Right, So kind of putting it into a framework whereby you know, your measuring or testing doesn't really work. We need to go a little bit deeper and start to think about the value sets of what's driving interactions and behaviors and start from that point.

Okay, so what are the value sets? Can you give me a couple of examples?

Yeah?

Absolutely, so. I think that one of the great places for start is how do I feel around being honest? And by being honest, I mean really truly honestly honest. And is that a safe thing for you to do in the relationship ship? Is it okay for you to give feedback or do you find that you're couching things in a certain way and posturing things in a certain way so as to avoid a conflict. That's typically a

I've done just a peculiar thing where one party regards the other quite literally as a good catch, but isn't happy what's going on?

There.

Well, I guess the moment's about being a good catch. It kind of comes down to, well, how are we measuring success? What does that look like?

Yeah?

And I guess for some people, you know, being a good catch person might simply be linked to what's available from a financial set or the extensions that they provide in the social life and that kind of thing. So again, it comes down to feeling as I am, I in something that feels equitable and where I feel like a priority or more of just an option.

But I mean, isn't it a case of if the person ain't doing it for you, they're not really a good catch, even if you're comparing them to you know what the friends have. I've noticed a peculiar thing with males over the years who have been sufficiently wealthy, personable, whatever it takes to get a real beauty, and then when they're out in public, they spend their time denigrating the woman. That's weird, isn't it.

Yeah?

Yeah, that certainly doesn't sound like an invested and respectful interaction at all there, right, Because I guess you know, it's about thinking around, well, what is the purpose of partnership here? And if it's if what you're or what someone is looking to fulfill is to have essentially someone who looks really nice next to them in photographs. I mean, perhaps you know those value sets and being able to actually create a life together is feeling like less of

Yes, it's some kind of odd ego driven thing. I guess, either a self esteem thing or saying hey, look what I can get and it's nothing to me.

Yeah, yeah, look I think it's it is interesting. I mean, on one hand, to be the person that is, you know, feeling very much empowered and that I get to have my pick of all the flowers, so to speak, versus being the person that does feel like they're a flower that's been selected. Right, Because then what are you? I mean, you're going a wither as you age and perhaps not quite being competition all the time for making sure that you're saying still in good favor.

As it were, you have a saying here, if it costs you your peace, it's too expensive. What do you mean?

Yeah, I thought you'd ask about that, Mike. So this isn't more about emotional peace, So that kind that lets you feel safe and steady and like yourself. Like, all relationships have conflict, right, I mean that's part of what makes them challenging and helps us grow. So it doesn't have to be perfect. But if you're feeling like you're walking on eggshells or over explaining yourself, taking guessing your worse,

Okay. I know somebody who told the kids that came with the man in her life when she married him, living with your father was like living within them exploded bomb.

Oh wow wow? Okay, yeah, that would absolutely be the walking on actual analogy right there, right, waiting for what's going to happen next. And I think that's also what

By the way, to the very best of my knowledge, there was no violence in the relationship. It was just a feeling kind of an attitude. But one of the difficulties, if I may say, is certainly, speaking from my side of the fence as a male, you have to kind of guess a fair bit.

Yeah.

Yeah, Look, I think that the behavior patterns that we get into in our relationships, and not just intimate partner ones, but you know, in our friendship group, in our family settings, even in work environments, sometimes we do fall into certain behavior loops. And sometimes some people have, you know, essentially just been going through their lives with an avoidance when it comes to dealing with the hard stuff life, how

Despite everything in this day and age, in the attitude we've been taking in this conversation, some people do actually manage to stay together for life, don't they.

Yeah.

Absolutely, I mean to share with you, Mike, Literally tomorrow I will be celebrating my twentieth wedding anniversary with my husband.

Well, great, congratulations, thank you very much.

In the early forties, I think that's quite the coup, right, So, I mean, there are absolutely ways that you can choose to invest in yourself, choose to invest in your partner, in your relationship to do the work so to speak. Yeah, but it does, yes, and there's a commitment that needs to happen there to be able to make it work.

Okay, you've got a plan for celebration.

It will be probably a bit of a nice long, lazy lunch, but other than that'll be a little bit low key.

I think this year, okay, strikes a chord with me because over the years I've disappointed some ladies who've done something special for me on an anniversary and one said, I put a lot of work into this, you don't seem to be enjoying it. So what can I do but say, Look, I may appear calm on the surface, but inside I'm a boiling vacivious of emosion.

Look, I think.

One of the things that we do, and I also encourage a lot of clients to take the opportunity to do this as well, is use the anniversary moments as a chance to pause and reflect on what's working, what needs a little bit more work, or what are the things that we just don't really need to keep doing anymore, I either things that aren't really all that awesome, and then literally dust off the five or ten year plan and see where are we based on where we thought

Well, congratulations, I think that's terrific and thank you for coming on the program.

Absolute pleasure.

Sir Penhalligan is a strategic psychotherapist. Sharon says, lots of emergis here. I've been in a relationship like that. This is further the conversation I just had with Ronlin. Sharon says, I just want a peaceful, honest relationship, someone with guts and faith. Hashtags single, what is the emoji before that? Chris? Oh you're not sure? Okay? I thought you'd know. Okay, you know I turned to you for emojis. I like this, Jerry says Mike, having missed the tragic song. Yeah, we

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