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Out of Beta

Matt Wensing & Peter Suhmoutofbeta.fm
Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

Episodes

How are you?

Matt and the Summit team just pushed out a big update to improve user activation. Peter is struggling to find time to think strategic about the business with all the noise of a successful Product Hunt launch and life in general. Summit Reform Matt on Twitter Peter on Twitter...

Oct 20, 202154 minEp. 108

Product Hunt

Peter is sharing his experience of being number one on Product Hunt with Reform, before heading off for a short personal retreat in his cabin. Matt is doubling down on activation for Summit, while he plans out the next phase of the business.

Oct 06, 202138 minEp. 107

Farewell, WP Pusher!

Peter has sold two of his products, WP Pusher and Branch, to focus 100% on Reform. Matt is mapping out the first few personas for Summit, as he thinks about growth.

Sep 23, 202148 minEp. 106

"If it's good enough for Derrick..."

Matt is in planning mode pondering what the next steps for Summit are. Peter is continuing to feel momentum with Reform, even though the road to profitability still feels long.

Sep 01, 202151 minEp. 105

Keeping Momentum

Matt and Peter are both feeling some momentum with their new products. The two have a conversation about upcoming plans for product and marketing, and how they think about what's core in their products.

Aug 19, 20211 hrEp. 104

The Launch Episode

Matt and Peter both had big launches in the past week - Matt launched templates and a few other Summit updates and Peter launched Reform, which is now out of early access.

Aug 06, 202146 minEp. 103

Out of Beta 101

This episode begins with a quick 101 for new listeners of the show. Peter is still working on launching Reform and Matt is almost ready to start charging for the new Summit.

Jul 14, 202158 minEp. 102

One Hundred

While Matt and Peter completely forgot to acknowledge it on the episode, this one marks the 100th episode of Out of Beta. Tune in for a regular updates episode, maker/manager style.

Jul 07, 202140 minEp. 101

Out of Early Access?

Matt and Peter are back on the mics to update listeners on their two early access products, Summit and Reform. Matt considers all the ways to educate new Summit users, while Peter develops his product prioritization practice. Referenced in the show: Inspiring with a Product Vision by Netflix Director of Product, Ebi Atawodi

Jun 30, 202149 minEp. 100

The Mastermind Is Back

Derrick Reimer is back for another on-air mastermind session with Matt and Peter.

Jun 09, 20211 hr 27 minEp. 99

Logic boards

Matt is dropping Loom videos on Twitter and his followers are starting to really grok what he's building with the new Summit. Peter is excited about a new customer he brought on and is getting ready to launch Reform.

May 26, 202135 minEp. 98

"It's like fusion power"

Is launching always just around the corner? Development on Reform continues, as Peter and Bjørn win a new customer for a brand new use-case: customer onboarding. Matt and the Summit team make steady progress and shorten their list of must-haves. The two discuss pricing and feature prioritization.

May 19, 202151 minEp. 97

A whiteboard that does math

Matt has a new way of describing Summit as the product keeps evolving. Peter is noticing some differences between Branch and Reform that are making him optimistic about the future.

May 12, 20211 hr 1 minEp. 96

It's hard

Matt has been sharing screenshots of the new Summit on Twitter and the reactions have him optimistic about the new product. Peter is tired and wanting to launch Reform to more customers - yesterday.

May 05, 202149 minEp. 95

Masterminding with Derrick Reimer

Matt and Peter are joined by their mastermind buddy, Derrick Reimer of SavvyCal. Matt is working on Summit's SEL language, Derrick just shipped an Outlook integration for SavvyCal, and Peter is trying to balance customer development with shipping product.

Apr 20, 20211 hr 25 minEp. 94

Bigger Swings Pt. 2 (or 3?)

Matt and the team are grinding out the work on the new version of Summit. Peter and Bjørn are dangerously close to publishing the first live Reform form.

Apr 14, 20211 hr 7 minEp. 93

Reform Update

While Matt is gone skiing in Colorado, Peter gives an update on his and Bjørn's progress with Reform.

Apr 09, 202129 minEp. 92

Building Product

Both Team Summit and Team Reform are in full-on build mode. While Peter is overwhelmed with Branch and WP Pusher support, Matt is excited about the new version of Summit that he and the team are working on.

Mar 31, 202150 minEp. 91

Announcing Reform

Peter shares how the announcement of his new project Reform went, while Matt has been busy in his newfound role as a product designer at Summit.

Mar 24, 20211 hr 14 minEp. 90

New Horizons

Peter reveals what he and Bjørn are working on, without sharing all the details (next week!). Matt and his team are designing the next version of Summit.

Mar 10, 20211 hr 4 minEp. 89

Big News

Matt and Peter are back after an unscheduled break. Matt has started building out Summit's team and Peter has some big news about the future of Branch.

Mar 03, 20211 hr 12 minEp. 88

SEL (rhymes with “cell”)

Matt lucks into a new developer, Giles, to work on Summit Event Language (SEL), while Peter gives some much-needed TLC to his old workhorse, WP Pusher.

Feb 03, 202152 minEp. 87

Back In Gear For 2021

Matt is back on the mic and he's got some tips to share about getting back into gear after being unplugged.

Jan 27, 202139 minEp. 86

Doubling Down

Peter is riding solo this week, giving an update on his efforts to double down on a more specific customer segment for Branch.

Jan 20, 202123 minEp. 85

Updates with Derrick Reimer of SavvyCal

While Matt is moving into his Texas McMansion, Peter brings on Derrick Reimer of SavvyCal and Drip fame to do a good old updates episode. Derrick on Twitter SavvyCal

Jan 13, 20211 hr 4 minEp. 84

2021 Plans, Pt. II: Summit

Matt reveals the culmination of his seed round fundraising efforts, and his plans for Summit in 2021.

Jan 06, 202113 minEp. 83

2020 Season Finale

Matt and Peter wrap up 2020 with final updates episode. Peter and Bjørn push a major update to Branch and place WP Engine into focus. Matt pauses his efforts on Summit after reaching his finish line.

Dec 23, 202028 minEp. 81

The Summit Challenge

Matt announces the Summit Challenge and several new features. Peter focuses on sales in order to find a high concentration of early adopters for Branch.

Dec 16, 20201 hr 24 minEp. 80

Zooming In & Out

Peter zooms in on his most successful customers, while Matt reflects on Stripe's latest platform announcements.

Dec 09, 20201 hrEp. 79