Former presidential speechwriter and author of Say It Well , Terry Szuplat, joins Gina Rubel to discuss the power of authentic communication in high-stakes environments. From his behind-the-scenes lessons working with President Obama to his candid reflections on overcoming a fear of public speaking, Terry shares practical wisdom for leaders, lawyers, and communicators.
Jun 30, 2025•32 min•Season 6Ep. 182
Sarah Larson joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to discuss how law firm leaders should communicate in the wake of high-profile legal rulings like Ames v. Ohio . They explore the impact of fear-driven headlines, how to avoid reactionary messaging, and why alignment with firm values must drive both internal and external responses.
Jun 16, 2025•23 min•Season 6Ep. 181
Eric Meyer, founding partner of Pierson Ferdinand, joins Gina Rubel to discuss the Supreme Court’s unanimous decision in Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services and its implications for all employers, including law firms. They discuss how the ruling affects Title VII compliance, the future of DEI efforts, and the importance of consistent, merit-based employment practices. Eric offers practical guidance for minimizing legal risk while reinforcing fairness and accountability in hiring, promotion...
Jun 09, 2025•25 min•Season 6Ep. 180
Sarah Larson and Elizabeth Ogilvie join Jennifer Simpson Carr to discuss how law firms can navigate the evolving legal and political landscape surrounding Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) and diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. They share practical strategies for assessing and adapting ERG policies, emphasizing the importance of transparency, clear documentation, and internal collaboration.
Jun 02, 2025•21 min•Season 6Ep. 179
Elizabeth Catterall Ogilvie joins Jennifer Simpson Carr to unpack SHRM’s newly introduced BEAM Framework— Belonging Enhanced by Access through Merit —and what it means for law firms navigating today’s diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) landscape. They discuss the five BEAM questions, explore how merit-based inclusion can strengthen talent strategies, and share how law firms can evolve their DEI programs in light of recent executive orders and court decisions.
May 27, 2025•22 min•Season 6Ep. 178
Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr explore one of the most sensitive challenges law firms face: managing public and media communications during litigation. From defending global brands to navigating precedent-setting cases, they discuss why early engagement with communications professionals is essential, how to strike the right balance between legal accuracy and public clarity, and why “no comment” is never the right response.
May 19, 2025•24 min•Season 6Ep. 177
Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr examine what the ruling in favor of Perkins Coie and this year’s powerful Law Day of Action mean for every law firm. From politically motivated executive orders to renewed commitments to uphold the Constitution, they discuss how law firm leaders must prepare for reputational risks, align legal and communications strategy, and defend the rule of law in an era of unprecedented scrutiny.
May 05, 2025•27 min•Season 6Ep. 176
Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr unpack what clients are truly looking for from their outside counsel today, drawing directly from the candid insights shared during last week’s General Counsel panel at the Legal Marketing Association’s International Conference. They explore five critical themes that every law firm should understand to strengthen client loyalty, grow relationships, and win new business.
Apr 28, 2025•28 min•Season 6Ep. 175
As legal professionals gather in Washington, D.C. for a packed week of industry conferences, including the 40th anniversary of the Legal Marketing Association, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr take a candid look at what it means to show up authentically during turbulent times.
Apr 21, 2025•30 min•Season 6Ep. 174
Gina Rubel is joined by immigration law attorney Wendy Castor Hess to unpack the current state of U.S. immigration policy and what it means for travelers, visa holders, and green card holders in 2025. With new executive orders in place and heightened enforcement at U.S. ports of entry, the episode explores how these changes are affecting universities, corporations, and individuals alike.
Apr 14, 2025•29 min•Season 6Ep. 173
Gina Rubel and Jennifer Carr reflect on key insights from Legalweek 2025, focusing on how law firms must adapt to meet the expectations of today’s legal buyers. From the rise of millennial buyers prioritizing trust and transparency over cost, to the demand for predictive pricing, multidisciplinary teams, and outcome-based value, the conversation explores how firms can evolve to remain competitive. They also tackle the "million-dollar problem" of associate attrition, the strategic use of data for...
Apr 07, 2025•28 min•Season 6Ep. 172
In this episode, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Carr reflect on their experiences at Legalweek and discuss the evolving implications of recent executive orders targeting law firms. The conversation covers the controversy surrounding decisions made by major firms and the broader legal industry’s response.
Mar 31, 2025•26 min•Season 6Ep. 171
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr explore how law firm leaders can proactively navigate crisis planning amid uncertain times, addressing the impact of recent executive orders on the legal industry.
Mar 24, 2025•17 min•Season 6Ep. 170
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr and Sarah Larson discuss recent political attacks on law firms and the rule of law, emphasizing the importance of firms articulating their core values in internal and external communications.
Mar 17, 2025•24 min•Season 6Ep. 169
In this episode of On Record PR , Jennifer Simpson Carr and Elizabeth Ogilvie discuss the growing threat to law firm diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs in light of recent executive orders.
Mar 10, 2025•17 min•Season 6Ep. 168
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr go on record to discuss the top issues surrounding when law firms become political targets in 2025.
Mar 03, 2025•18 min•Season 6Ep. 167
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr, Vice President of Strategic Development, speaks with Brenda Plowman, a member of Furia Rubel’s International Faculty , about a topic that can make or break a law firm's credibility: public statements.
Feb 24, 2025•20 min•Season 6Ep. 166
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr discusses important considerations for choosing the right agency partner for your firm.
Feb 18, 2025•13 min•Season 6Ep. 165
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr speaks with Furia Rubel Executive Vice President Sarah Larson about managing the message when an MVP partner leaves a firm.
Feb 10, 2025•12 min•Season 6Ep. 164
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel speaks with Furia Rubel Chief Innovation Officer Leslie Richards about fostering a culture of psychological safety and embracing innovation within law firms.
Feb 03, 2025•18 min•Season 6Ep. 163
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr and Renee Branson dive into the crucial topic of how law firm leaders can foster safety and trust in times of change. Learn More As a Certified Resilience Coach (CReC) with a masters degree in counseling psychology, Renee Branson provides clients with immediately usable tools to increase resilience, well-being, and optimism in the workplace. She works with lawyers, legal marketers, business professionals, non-profit leaders, and others to he...
Jan 27, 2025•24 min•Season 6Ep. 162
In Episode 161 of On Record PR , Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr dive into the crucial role of resilience in leadership during today’s turbulent times. Drawing from a conversation with resilience expert Renee Branson, Jennifer shares strategies for law firm leaders to support their teams’ mental well-being and navigate challenges with empathy. Learn how to create a consistent, safe, and supportive environment for colleagues and loved ones in the face of adversity. Tune in for actionable adv...
Jan 22, 2025•18 min•Season 6Ep. 161
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr go on record to explore the critical topic of how law firm leaders should respond to the growing expectation to comment publicly on political and social issues.
Jan 13, 2025•23 min•Season 6Ep. 160
In this episode of On Record PR, Gina Rubel and Jennifer Simpson Carr go on record to discuss the top issues keeping law firm leaders up at night in 2025.
Jan 06, 2025•19 min•Season 6Ep. 159
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr goes on record with Moish E. Peltz, Partner at Falcon Rappaport & Berkman LLP, to discuss the impact of rising technology like artificial intelligence and cryptocurrency on the evolving business and legal landscapes. Learn More Moish Peltz is a Partner at Falcon Rappaport & Berkman where he serves on the firm's executive committee, co-chairs the firm's Digital Assets Practice Group and also leads the Intellectual Property Practice Gr...
Dec 23, 2024•23 min•Season 5Ep. 158
In this episode of On Record PR, Jennifer Simpson Carr goes on record with Dena Calo, EVP of Human Resources and Employment Counsel at The Durst Organization, to discuss the transformative impact of transparency, collaboration, and trust in leadership, highlighting Dena’s journey from a law firm to an in-house role where these values drive cultural and organizational success. Learn More As Executive Vice President of Human Resources and Employment Counsel at The Durst Organization, Dena Calo spe...
Dec 16, 2024•27 min•Season 5Ep. 157
In this episode of On Record PR, sponsored by Lawline, Gina Rubel goes on record with Mary Hildebrand CIPP/US/E/AIGP, founder & chair emeritus of the Data, Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice at Lowenstein Sandler , to discuss important considerations for law firms when developing generative AI policies that serve their needs. Learn More Mary J. Hildebrand founded, led and now serves as Chair Emeritus of the firm’s Data, Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice with the primary goal of enabling...
Dec 09, 2024•10 min•Season 5Ep. 156
In this episode of On Record PR, sponsored by Lawline, Jennifer Simpson Carr goes on record with Sean Douglass , associate attorney at Panitch Schwarze , to discuss the impact of AI-generated content on intellectual property law. Learn More Sean M. Douglass is a seasoned Intellectual Property Attorney with extensive experience in patent and trademark development, prosecution, and portfolio management. With a deep expertise in a range of technical fields including computer science, financial tech...
Dec 02, 2024•10 min•Season 5Ep. 155
In this episode of On Record PR, sponsored by Lawline, Gina Rubel goes on record with Shawn Swearingen , Chief Innovation Officer of Faegre Drinker , to discuss the practical applications of generative AI for the legal industry and its ethical challenges. Learn More Shawn Swearingen serves as Faegre Drinker’s chief innovation officer. She collaborates with the executive and operations leadership teams to keep the firm on the frontline of organizational development and emerging legal trends condu...
Nov 19, 2024•12 min•Season 5Ep. 154
In this episode of On Record PR, sponsored by Lawline, Gina Rubel explores how legal professionals can reap the benefits of generative AI technology and avoid its pitfalls. Learn More Gina Rubel is the president and CEO of Furia Rubel Communications, Inc. (www.furiarubel.com). A legal marketing and public relations expert, social media enthusiast, attorney, and author, Gina teaches lawyers and legal marketers nationwide how to use integrated communications tools to gain credibility, to get recog...
Nov 04, 2024•10 min•Season 5Ep. 153