Making a living as a performing artist without getting famous

Special guest John Vergin joins us for an episode of what a 40-year career of hustle as a working performing artist looks like without getting famous. John dropped out of college and never held a so-called “real job” but balancing his creative work as a singer, composer, pianist, teacher, theatre music director, he’s always had a roof over his head (and is just 1.5 months from paying off his mortgage) and a stylish life. He talks about avoiding debt, being happy with what you have, and the value of building personal networks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices