Ask NST: Coupon etiquette, plus ones, and bad dogs

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Hey, no such thing. Long time listener, first time caller. I'm hoping to get your advice on something. We're entering party season, and i'd like your sauce on invitation etiquette, specifically as.

It relates to plus one.

What are our person's responsibilities when it comes to inviting significant others to parties? Is there a threshold when it becomes disrespectful to give a friend of plus one instead of inviting their partner as an individual person, as someone in a serious cohabitating relationship. I found myself slightly offended by being plus one by friends of my partner over time. However, I also recognize the inconsistency of my own inviting habits

Thank you.

First, I want to shout out the use of the phrase cohabitating partnership.

Was that serious cohabitating relationship?

That's very inclusive, well done. It's a it's an interesting question. It's tough for me. I'm someone who has never minded.

That's something aroundwork here a little bit, because I think she's talking about like a party, full invite, right, not like a just a casual text, like.

A a group chat, right.

Yeah, And officially this sounds like something a little bit more official, not a wedding, Like I'm having a gathering and there's enough people that I.

Got to like I'm blasting the thing. Yeah.

So within that context, if me as being invited to something, do you feel awkward if you are not also on that invite? At this point, you guys are living together for going on two years.

A long time.

Yeah.

For some reason in my head, if it's primarily MIA's friend, if me as the reason I know this person, I haven't minded it.

Yeah.

At the same time, maybe that I just haven't really thought about it being offensive, Like maybe I should think more about like why am I not invited as an individual?

Yeah?

I mean it depends because there's certainly people I know just through their partners that I might like them, they like me. I would never hang out with these people want or not with that other person, whether it's my partner, their partner. So in that sense, I kind of get just like, listen, you're invited, you can bring whoever. It's assumed, So.

I'm gonna be the one that has to have an issue with it.

Yeah.

Please.

I think the simple test for this is do you have this person's phone number. I don't have the person's phone number, and you are sending out an invite and this is not okay. We're doing like I don't know, this is the first time we're hanging out with this person's boyfriend and we just happen to be on one

It's like that's a bit much.

If someone's been dating someone for a year, two year, three years, a certain point, it doesn't matter that we're not hanging out one on one. It's just like, just also invite them. They shouldn't just be a plus one.

I guess.

I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter to me. It doesn't really matter if it's like if that partner is never going to come on their own, even if they got the invite, you know what I mean, Like, let's use Manny and Mia. All right, if I'm inviting you to something and there's no world in which me is going to come by yourself to this event, yeah, it's kind of like we mutually wouldn't care.

Yeah, it's like a formality, but you would. Yeah, well, I'm trying to get into the shoes of the person who's asking this question, Like, how should.

You feel if I'm that person?

If you know, it sounds like this person is feeling quite slighted by the fact that they're not invited to a thing, And it sounds like the person who's not inviting them individually, like sounds like they know them pretty well. So I guess, like I'm trying to figure out how I would feel in that instance.

He's gonna be the worst advice episode. You're like, well, I don't care, why are you asking me?

I think it's justified to feel upset or slighted about this. We're all different. I personally don't mind that much, but I could see why someone would be would mind And.

Look, I don't think it's if you are annoyed. I think it's up to your partner to address here. Yeah, I'm annoyed, and it's that's your friend. You go talk to your friend about why I'm not on the invite. I'm not having that conversation.

Would you mind asking your friend.

Just put demon on an invite like he wants to? You know, if there's updates about the park. He doesn't want to have to text me about it.

Then. I think, now it's like if my partner complained to me about this and then I have to go to you, Devin and be like, I'd be like, she's gonna be nagging me about this, Just just shoot at the text next time. I don't know if I would even do that.

You would, because you wouldn't have want to have that conversation again for the next Evie.

I'd be like, yeah, I told him, and then I'd just be like, I don't know why he's Yeah, that's what I would do.

I've seen this. I've seen this.

Then I think it is worth bringing it up to your partner if it bothers you and you don't need to make it a big deal. I think you can bring it up and it's pretty nonchalant sight away of just sort of like, hey, it's just like you know, she wants to add it to a calendar, all this stuff, and it's just easier if like, she just gets the invite, if you don't have her number, here's her number, and

Because it's essentially assumed this person is going to come. Yes, if it's unless it's like obviously a very small thing, that they're a different thing.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah.

And I think that's fair. And then just to kind of put a point on that, it's just be the change you want to see. So you better be inviting everyone in every problem if you're going to be thinking this way.

I will say too.

As a final note, it sounds like maybe this is not about the invite at all, and maybe this is about how you feel in the presence of your partner's friends, and maybe it sounds like you feel like you're being left out to some degree. Yeah, so I would I would take a long, hard look at that.

Well, because I mean, yeah, things get complicated. There's been friends of mine who have had long term partners, and you know, I try my best, and sometimes it's like this person is not give they don't care if I livered in front of them. And I've known them for maybe i'll say, like a decade. Yeah yeah, and you know those people aren't around anymore with good reasons.

Yeah they didn't make the.

Cut, but you know, or like and the flip side, it's like you can tell like some people would make no effort to even meet with the significant other, and it's like, okay, you can only pretend like you know.

This person yeah or something.

Yes, but yeah, anyway, that's obviously a larger.

Issue but yeah, yeah, but still one that I feels pertinent to this.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's if I think if you felt included in other aspects, it wouldn't feel as big of a deal, which is I think kind of what we're talking about here, where it's like, ah.

Somebody forgot like an email whatever, who cares.

But I think it's like, oh, every time I hang out with these people, like they don't greet me, they don't say anything to me, and I'm not on an email, Like then it starts to add up.

Ye. Yeah, it's like, well, maybe I won't even bother going to this.

Yeah, exactly. Maybe you don't even want me there. Yeah sounds like they don't.

Yeah, hey Manny No Devin responding to your question mail bag request, I have a crush on a co worker. Oh this shit is brutal, But here we are. I'm five years older than him. I'm thirty seven with fresh eggs.

Oh what the fuck?

I's hold the commentary for app. I'm afraid of even saying anything for lots of reasons, but the biggest being, am I too old? Is this real? Is this perception?

What is even real?

For context, I am by a homeowner outside of my current city and wants to have a baby in the next two years.

The age is fine, The ages are fine. Yeah, and thirty two.

It's not like she's talking about having a crush on like a twenty two year old. It's like, I'm not what kids in the next two years? Yeah, thirty two?

Realm. We joke about it a lot, but you can't have kids at this age.

Surprisingly, it's legal. So it is of the age where if you had something that was serious for a few years, you can see maybe you know too cutting in a little tight Yeah, being that like you're not with this person yet.

Yeah, but you know.

I don't want to worry too much about the baby thing, even though that's an important conversation to have within a couple of months at this rate.

But yeah, wait, wait, so wait, what's the actual question, Like, what's one of this.

I mean, figure out, you know, is it with all these other parameters? Are they kind of crazy for even thinking about it's a coworker, Yeah, so co worker, the age thing.

Okay, so as it pertains to the question of like, is it uh kosher?

Yeah, right, I won't put business.

Likely thing for you to say. Yeah, I think I'm pretty biased here, but never in an instance where one of us had a power dynamic over the other, per since so it was always like either different teams, level playing field or different teams.

Yes, yeah, yeah, I date all my interns, So I don't.

Think there's any real issue with you working with the person.

Yeah, it's it's more a matter of, obviously, if you don't know this person's interest in you, I think it's totally fair to ask them out. But after that you need to, right, you need to let it go and box that up and bury it.

Yeah, the rest of.

Your career there, And I will say part of this is like we don't know you, right, and because.

To know what kind of job this was?

Yeah, what happened? That's a really good point. What type of you actually work with them?

Yes? Are you working directly with them? Is this just someone in the office.

You guys as or are you in a like an office job ye or Quiznos corporate for the Chrisnos office job.

And I think it's important to like, what is the what are your personalities?

Right?

Like, are you to people who if you get like if this doesn't work out, or you're gonna be able to continue working.

In this environment and everything's going to be fine.

Because I've been in situations where not me in a relationship with co workers, but I've been the boss of people who have been in relationships working very closely together on teams yea who it's great when it's going great, and then you know they get into a fight and then somebody's calling out sick oh, or someone refuses to work with the other person.

We should believe out names, but is this.

And no, So I think knowing the personalities at play here too, like is this going to be something that like if it's awkward and that's all it is.

Who cares? Yeah, shoot your.

Shot if it's awkward, all right, whatever, You can move past it if you think it's going to impact, Like if this doesn't go well, if you think you're gonna have to quit your job, Yeah.

Is the worst situation that you'll be miserable at work, you'll be fired? Like what Like, yes, we gotta lay out the consequences. But just to respond to a part of this email that seemed to be very important, which is like the fertility. Yes, yeah, I would describe a crush as something that's pretty frivolous, like low stakes. This seems to be like seems to be tied to like a desire to have babies pretty soon.

Well, they just don't have time to waste.

Yeah yeah, okay, which is fair, But you also don't want to You're putting a lot of expectations on a person that you don't even know if they like you. Yeah, she's trying to give herself an excuse to not approach him and not have a conversation. But I think it's like step one is just like it's interested in you like each other, yes, and you can sort of go through all these other things. Why are we talking about, Yeah,

You know.

It's like there are a lot of steps we got to go through.

Yeah, there are a few things I wish I knew, like more context, Like are these people flirting with each other? Or do you just look at a person every day and yes you have a crush on them, you know what. That's fine too, But I just mean, like, you know, so many people are kind of can't read when someone likes them. It's like we might be answered, we might be telling you to go approach someone who is not interested in you.

But that's fine. You can find that out very quickly. And you could be like, hey, you want to grab a drunk after work?

Exactly?

You know, like the stakes aren't let's watch the Knicks?

Yeah thinks exactly. Stakes are not that high.

I'll replay of the next there they're in cancn right now.

Hey, y'all, I need some advice. I'm having a birthday picnic and I've told all of my friends that they can bring their dogs, because of course they can. I have no problem with dogs being at my picnic. But I do have this one friend who dog I hate. This dog is energetic, yeahy aggressive. This dog ruins the vibe every time. And my friend has no idea that this dog is a problem. She thinks her dog is perfect. I do not want to ruin my birthday picnic. How

And I am conflict avoidant? Please, hell, I've got a question before we get into it. Yep, for the dog owners of the show, how much of a dog's like bad behavior can be attributed to its personality versus just not training it. Well, it's a mix, yeah, like a dog like at a picnic, kind of just running around, smelling all the food, licking it up, like just kind of being a nuisance. I mean to me, I'm like, yeah, it's it's a dog. I mean, that's what they do. I guess.

Yeah.

But then it seems like some dogs probably start out that way before they're trained to be more polite.

Yeah, it sounds like and this is a tough thing, you know, as a as a fellow dog owner, I fucking love my dog and no one else can talk shit about my dog except me. Yeah, but I'm also very aware of my dog's shortcomings, like what he can do, what he can't do, what situations I should put him in, what situations I should not put him in when it's

So, but you seem to have kind of the wherewithal to know in certain situations that your dog might not be great for some yere.

I'm not bringing my dog everywhere for that.

The issue here, So to help the caller here, how can she let her friend know that her friend doesn't know that the dog is bad in these situations.

I don't think there's an easy way to do this without being direct.

Yeah, if you allow other dogs, yes, that's the problem everybody.

I think it's it's totally fair, even at a park picnic thing, to just be like, hey, no dogs, like there's too much food and other stuff, Like it'll just be kind of easier if we don't need to have that, and you could blame it on someone's allergies, like there's a million things to do.

But if you're gonna.

Allow other dogs there, Yeah, it isn't obviously specific and you can't just put out a vague thing of like yeah, good dogs only, like yeah, unless this dog is like yeah, this dog is aggressive, but like it doesn't sound like the dog is like biting people where it's like okay someone, Like that's what I would assume if if I have a dog that doesn't hurt people, I'd be like, cool, my dog's fine.

I think you need to think about I know they're conflict avoidant. Do you want to have an awkward conversation now? Or do you want your party to possibly be ruined by this dog doing this thing for an hour, two hours, three hours, however long the picnic is?

Yeah, I think that's if it's more of like.

The dog's a little bit annoying and like you know, he runs around a little bit, but like it's not gonna really mess up the party. Okay, maybe you just got to suck it up and then next time just get ahead of it and say like, hey, no dogs. Yeah, but if this dog, if you're thinking this dog is going to like you, she said she hates this dog.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm like one of those people that like, if it's my thing, I'm not inviting somebody I don't like. Yeah, and that includes your dog. So like you have to have a friend conversation with them and be like, hey, I would love for you to come, but like, don't think it's going to be the best environment for your dog.

And if your friend is actually your friend and.

A will receive that in for me and be okay with it and leave your dog at home and show up. If you're not really your friend, they're not going to show up.

What exactly should she say to this person? I think you can touched on it a little bit.

Yeah, let's have a mock let's have a mock conversation.

Yeah.

I think something in the message should be like, maybe, hey, i'd like your dog, but I feel a little uncomfortable around your dog. Sometimes something that's like not like you suck your dog sucks, You're going to ruin the party. But like maybe if it's personal like that.

Are you calling him or doing this in person? Do you think I'm probably texting?

Okay, texting Hey, don't call.

Hey? Three wise?

Hey, what's up?

Man?

He's so excited for the party. I've already I've already gotten Alia a brand new bandana.

For Well, that's actually what I what I wanted to talk about today.

Thanks for responding to this message.

As you know, my birthday party welcomes dogs, but on more than a few occasions, I felt a little bit uncomfortable around Ollie. Don't. I don't have anything against dogs in general, but Ollie in particular makes me a little nervous. And I don't want to be uncomfortable in any way at my birthday celebration. But I was wondering if it's okay that you come, but Ollie stays.

Home, So you're gonna be letting other dogs come but not Ali?

Yes, because I feel a little bit more comfortable around these dogs. They're not as energetic, they're not running around trying to eat the food, and I'm just gonna feel a lot more comfortable. And normally I wouldn't ask this, but it's my birthday, so I just want to feel as good as I possibly can please. He's laying it on.

You know.

I guess it's fine or whatever, but it's just kind of weird to me, and that this is the first time you're ever bringing up the fact that you been feeling uncomfortable around Ollie because you've been around Ollie so many times, and like you've never said anything, so it sounds like you're just kind of making this up.

You're right, I should have brought this up earlier, but in previous instances, I didn't want to make you feel bad. In this instance, I'm fucking had enough.

I need to stand up for myself.

And on last year at my birthday, I was a little bit nervous and anxious around your dog, and I don't want to feel that this year on my birthday.

That's very all right, this is a classic incoming, I think. All right, Hey, Mandy, No and Devin, we have a question for you. Our good friends invited us on a dinner double date. When picking a location, we told them we don't have a preference, and so they selected a new restaurant that none of us had been due before.

Oh?

Should they have been more upfront about their coupon and reasoning for the restaurant selection? What are the social norms here?

Thanks? And remind me at the beginning who invited who to the dinner? They invited them, They invited the emailers. Okay, yeah, I think it is rude. Yeah, I think it's rude number one to only choose restaurants because you're getting a discount. And maybe this is different in New York than wherever they live, but like, I feel like, if you're going to go on a double date, there's gotta be some intention,

Exactly.

This is going for everyone.

Yes, Yeah, That's what's crazy is the effort that goes into using coupon just on your half of the meal. Yes, that's where it's like, all right, this is not like an accidental thing. No, you're you're telling the waiter specifically, only take this twenty percent off on this, and it's like, you know, money's tight whatever the economy.

Like you're doing this to save Like yeah, what like how much money could it be worth?

Is that really worth doing this?

Yeah? I'm trying to figure out the rude part of it, because like.

It's rude because you're inviting somebody to dinner and you're not being honest about why you're choosing the restaurants. Yeah, and that the fact that you have a coupon, so it's like they may be picking a place that's expensive and it's other couple's like, well, if they want to go.

We go.

So we get there and then we're ordering all the normal you don't say anything till the very end and then to know it's point and then you're only like using the twenty percent on your you and your spout, Like that's crazy.

It's really rude. I mean, I'm trying to imagine my scenario where like we get to dinner, it's time to pay out, and then the couple who invited me pulls out.

Like a coupon and for themselves.

And they don't use it on this selves I'd be like, oh, what.

You know.

Obviously I don't. I'm not entitled to it. Yeah, but it just odd.

Yeah, I mean it.

I would feel embarrassed if I was the person inviting someone if I had a coupon and did not mention it ahead of time.

To me, there's two violations happening here. One is that we're only going to this place because you have.

A coupon, there's no other reason.

Completely strips away any kind of like intimacy about wanting to take your friends out on this double date. To you get to the part where you use the coupon and you're not including the people you invited to this place for the sole reason of having the coupon. Now, the third violation is like, hey, let's do this again, Yes, because I have another coupon. I would feel like I would feel so pissed.

I will say, some people just don't have any like social awareness mm hmmm.

And I would be up front.

I know they said that they told them like, no, we don't want to go to that restaurant, But I would be upfront with them and be like, hey, it seems like you guys are only picking restaurants that you have coupons for we don't have coupons. If we're going to go out to eat, you guys, we want to go somewhere that we actually want to eat that, you know, And it's kind of awkward that you guys are inviting us just two places that you have coupons for, being

I don't care if they pay for a subscription fee for now. I mean that's weird. I mean, I don't know what it does not matter that they're no, I mean, I mean, how much could that be even whatever it is, even if.

Someone gave me a gift card to the place. Right, so I'm getting say one hundred and fifty.

Dollars off at the restaurant.

If I'm inviting somebody else to that restaurant, they are getting that disc.

Off the top. Yes, yeah, it's off the top. And then you do.

I mean, look, I pay for Regal Unlimited twenty three dollars a month so that I can go see movies without paying for the movie. This person is paying a subscription to get this discount on things.

It feels like kindergartener mentality, if like everything needs to be fair and even it's like sometimes you should just do things because it's nice. Yeah, you're not always gonna like it's your coupon. I get it, you pay a subscription fee, but like, if you're inviting your friends out, maybe you're just gonna not get as much money back as you thought you were.

Yeah, you should enjoy the experience. And like, if you're that hard.

Up for money that you should issue.

You should be paying for a subscription service for coupons. Yeah, and you shouldn't be going out to restaurants, let alone inviting other couples exactly. Like that's it. It's just like when it's like when people complain about tipping normally at a restaurant, it's like, well then you can you can't afford it, You shouldn't be ready. Yeah, just make some mac and cheese.

Yeah, so pretty unanimous by many, Noah and Devin. Your friends should feel ashamed.

And you should you should confunct them about it?

Yeah, yeah, no more?

I mean yeah, were you were too nice in saying no? Just because the restaurants far away, I'd been like, why, what is happening here? What is wrong with you?

That's some help? Maybe talk to you know, send it an advice question to some people. All right, hey, guys, I've got some advice to ask. How do I pursue new friendships without neglecting the friends I already have? I absolutely love all my friends. They're incredible people, and they mean the world to me. I have a few particularly close friends, but I can't help but feel that many of them have this untouchable connection with each other that

What do you think I feel like, out of the three of us, Manny, you should answer this because the amount of friends that you have is disgusting.

Yeah, that's fair, So you do a good job.

So what do you think.

I have a lot of friends there, But like, I mean, it seems like this person doesn't have that much time, because my initial response to this is that you can do all of this at the same time. Yeah, it seems like you can like make new friends without having to neglect the other ones.

Precidically, it sounds like they're saying they have to sacrifice time with their friends. They already have to deepen relationships with newer friends, which yeah.

And they're not trying to lose any It's not like, oh I don't like this friend group. No, they're not like holdovers from college or something.

There is some level of like politics to this in a weird way, Like I've run into this all the time, where I'm someone who wants to invite every single person I know on a weekend to the same bar. But I've found that, like some groups don't mesh well with other groups. Some groups want very specific people there. They'll be annoyed if other people show up, not because they don't like the person, but like it just changes the dynamic expectations.

Well, yeah, it's like, if I'm going to meet up with two people, it's way different than meeting up with five people, even if I like all those people.

Yeah, and there's different goals for different hangs. Sure, so there's definitely a lot to think about in this scenario.

All right, So let's let's break it down. I guess there's someone who is a friend of a friend. Maybe you've seen each other a few times at bar parties or whatever. You're friendly but not friends. How should we approach going about taking that next step?

For me, it's always been like weirdly similar to trying to ask someone out on a date, where it's like, hey, hey man, I like really enjoy hanging out with you, Like, let's get a beer sometime soon. Then it stops becoming a thing you plan around, so like yeah, once you fortunately like this stuff has to does have to be pretty organic, otherwise it doesn't feel authentic. People will be

Yeah, I just like, well, well, now I need to go like this person's bugging me, Like there must be some sort of reason you are connected.

Yeah.

And then I think, as far as not worrying about cutting out other people, I think it's just keeping up with Yeah, just like don't ignore the group chat or whatever it is, and just like, yeah, you can't hang out with everyone all the time.

Yeah, my advice would be not to worry about like not paying attention as much to the previous friend group. If you're close enough, that's gonna be fine.

Exactly.

I'll have friends who hit me up who I haven't talked to in like six months, and we'll just pick but right back up like nothing, like there had been no gap in them communications. And I think like your best friends are like good friends will be like that. I really wouldn't worry about losing your previous friends and no one's gonna be at home being like damn, man, he didn't text.

Me, or like see that you went out with one other person one time and be like, oh, I guess I'm done now. Yeah.

Now, there was a part of the question that was like they feel like they can't penetrate. Yeah, So like a dynamic that feels very close, which is also another interesting thing. Some people like meet each other two weeks ago and then you see them hang out and it seems like they've been friends for definitely ever. Yeah, there's just certain personalities that click with each other like that, and it's I don't think it's worth like trying to penetrate that, if that makes sense.

Yeah, because I'm read to reread that bit it says I love all my friends. They're incredible people and they mean the world to me. I have a few particularly close friends, but I can't help but feel that many of them have this untouchable connection with each other that I just can't reach. So this makes me think of our follow Ups episode in a way.

Yeah.

But yeah, it's like you feel like you don't have that real deep connection. You kind of just need maybe one on one time or something like if you're always hanging out in groups, try to get more individual attention. I feel like that always makes me feel closer, even if it's not we're going to have a hard conversation with each other. It's just like, I don't know, it just means something different to carve out time with one person versus with a group of four people or something.

An easy way I've done that in the past is like, if you're out at drinks of the group and then one of the friend you want to connect with more wants to get a drink, You're like, hey, I'll go with you to the bar. Depending on what bar you're at, you're actually going to be by yourselves for a while and you can talk a little bit.

Yeah, and even that that's something small like that, which could even be it could only be three minutes. It could just be enough, like okay, somewhat intentional, even though there's this added thing of yeah, we're waiting at the you know, yeah, drinks or whatever.

The other person will go home and they won't be like, oh, this person made an effort to talk to me. But it's something subconscious that happens, and the next time you see the person, I don't know it makes more sense.

Some people are just unknowable.

Yeah, and every friend has their role right exactly.

Yeah, I'm the leader of the group, and then everyone else kind of falls in line. Hi, Manny Noadavik, I need advice about my friend's wedding. I'm the best man in the wedding. Between two of my closest friends. I'm psyched to be a part of it, but they have very different taste than me, and I was down for whatever they had mined for me in their wedding planning process. Lately,

I think this person is in the right, but I do wonder if they should just bite the bullet here.

Yeah, I mean they.

Shouldn't be trying to fucking sue the caterer, but like they're clearly going through some kind of stress. You might not want to add to that just because it's gonna be hot that day.

My view, as someone who's getting married soon is that, yeah, it's kind of like this is not really your your problem, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'll say, though, like, I think it's especially you obviously are really close with the dad situation that he I don't think they're gonna change it, but I think it's fair to say maybe like, yeah, here's why my dad's not coming. Yep, Like it's gonna be way too hot, so I just can't do it with the formal Like with the dress code, it's just

It's about like, hey, this is a business that we know and love, and you guys are not acting rational.

Yeah.

I think that's worth bringing up, and more so just sort of like, hey, is this really worth it?

The aspect of this where you where I feel like this person should suck it up, so to speak, is just going to the wedding knowing that it's going to be really hot.

Yep.

The parts where they should say something is like hey, don't think my dad's gonna come to this.

It's just fucking you could gently push back on basically all these things.

Yeah, but I wouldn't stress out too much about a person. It's like, you know, when is the wedding? Yeah, at this stage, probably too late even to make any changes.

Yeah, maybe move the location of the wedding to somewhere, like, you know, upstate New York where it could be Yeah, it'll be outside in the summer, mom, but it'll be yeah, so you know, it could be worse. That's for for one listener out there.

Yeah, weddings though, are like, I mean, that's something you can't see.

In the main area where there's dinner and stuff.

But yeah, anyway, is.

This about someone we know, it's interesting though. Weddings are so removed from these this same kind of issue, like outside of a wedding, you know, like for sure, if it weren't a wedding, it'd be like, yeah, to tell your friend that they're being fucking idiots. Yeah, it was like their birthday party in Palm Springs and one hundred ten degrees, I'd be like, yeah, what are you guys crazy?

Yeah.

Weddings though, are just like damn, that's everyone's one day for their lives, their whole lives. Where it's like, maybe it is fucking stupid as hell, but.

You kind of just need to Yeah, you need to let them do what they're doing. You can't really complain. There's so many weird kind of wedding specific things that do make people act is this is this not a character? Yeah, you're the best man.

You should know if this if they're acting out a character, I think you could take it a little bit differently than like, h here they go again.

Yeah, true, but definitely leave your dad at home.

Yes, yeah, that's it.

He guess what I would do?

Watch the game.

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