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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Little Fish. This is the show where we step back from our own four favorite facts from the last seven days and we read out your favorite facts. If you'd like to submit... some of your favorite facts, podcast at qi.com, send them there. Andy goes through all the mail and he picks out the best choice cuts for us to read out on this show. So we've all had our facts distributed. Who wants to open up with one? I'll do one. Let's do it. All right.

This is from Gleb, who writes, Hi, love the show. Long-suffering listener, first-time writer, yadda yadda. So we know you do listen. Thanks for sticking with it, Gleb. It's not easy. It's hard enough doing it. Imagine having to listen to all this. Well, Gleb's fact is this. In the 1930s, Pan Am, Pan America, airline.

were looking for a plane that could safely cross the Atlantic with cargo in one trip for their mail service. The guy who commissioned the design process was called Juan Trip. Is that true? It's actually true. It's stunning. I went down a real trip wormhole on this. He was a big deal in the world of aviation. Yeah? Yeah, he was born in 1899 and...

He started founding aviation firms. He founded Pan Am. And he pushed a lot of development of long range planes. Because before that, did you have to stop on the way like in the Azores or something? Or did they just not do it?

I think there was a sort of northern route where you had a little hop over to... Greenland? Or northern Canada? Something like that. But basically, it was really hard to do. And in fact, in those days, I read a thing that... in the old days it took eight days to get from miami to buenos aires in oh wow so like it was just a very very slow process and he set up all these air bases around the world and he conceived this idea of like

you know shortening journeys and uh very cool he was a very big deal and um his nickname was mummy because he was so secretive i actually don't think he needed a nickname No, Juan Tripp is absolutely right. I think when you have such a solid name, you should probably rail against any nicknames. You're right. You're absolutely right. Why does mummy work for being secretive? He kept mum. He kept mum. That's right. Okay. He wasn't just wrapped up in cloth. No. No.

In those little lemon-scented refreshing towelettes that you get on a plane. He lived inside those. You lift off the plate and there's one trip staring back at you. Yeah, he was named Juan. He wasn't Spanish at all. No? Really? Not Hispanic or anything? Nope. His family were from Maryland and he was from North Europe in his ancestry, you know. Wow. But he was named... either after his mother's stepfather Juan or his great-uncle's Venezuelan wife Juanita or his mother's

half-sister Juanita. Sources vary quite widely. He was named after someone called Juanita Juanita. It doesn't matter. You've never heard of this guy until a minute ago. It's not important. But I did the research and I had to hear it. But it is interesting that all those people are...

quite distantly related from him yeah you're right actually it's not like named after his father no it's always like his great uncle's Venezuelan wife almost like they put something in that you wouldn't possibly be able to check using the normal records yeah

There you go, one trip. That's very good. Okay, here is a fact from Bjorn Hauger. Bjorn writes, Hi, I love your show. Since you've been continuously delighting me with interesting facts, I thought I'd send you an interesting fact myself. That's why we're here, Bjorn. Bjorn read a book that said a quarter of the iron in the top 20 meters of the ocean is locked up in krill.

It's from a book called The Curious Life of Krill. Sounds like they would know. But, you know, I didn't think there was that much iron in the ocean anyway. No. So I was kind of unsure how important that is. And I also thought, is Krill magnetic? If it's got so much iron in it, maybe it is. Are you thinking fishing rods? I would say it'd be a really easy way to fish, wouldn't it? Just shove a magnet in the water. Anyway, it turns out.

There was a recent study that looked how much iron is in krill in a place called Pritz Bay in Antarctica, which I think is named after the DJ Eric Pritz. who made the sun call on me in the 2000s. No, it wasn't. I was fooled. I did not even question it as you were saying it. They found that there's 19 milligrams per kilogram of iron in a krill, which would be extremely weak or negligible for practical purposes when it comes. to magnetism, but...

Here is one interesting thing that I did work out. A blue whale eats four tons of krill a day. So that means if you could take all the iron out of all the krill that a blue whale eats, you could get a single table knife worth of iron out of that blue whale every day. day wow a beautiful fact so would would a blue whale go off in the airport at security no again

The amount of iron is extremely negligible compared to the weight of the stuff that's eating. It depends on what the whale does with the iron it eats. If the iron is all concentrated in... A special sort of iron gizzard or something, which I don't think science has proved or disproved yet. I'm fairly sure that it poos it out.

Okay, so it's not like there's a cutlery drawer inside a well that steadily gets larger over its life. Starts developing butter shovels or whatever. Asparagus tongs. No, okay. James, what a...

You've taken an already great fact. Yeah. And you've improved on it. Yeah. Well, it was a great fact beyond. Thank you very much for writing it. Very good fact. I've got a fact that's been sent in here. It's a bit of a sexy one. Oh dear. Are you ready for a sexy one? I have a feeling that the way you read it is going to become less sexy. Let's see. Let's see how many people disagree. He's doing a sexy voice. I'm doing my sexy dance as well. Here we go. So this is from Conan from Singapore.

Just like we think that champagne glasses were modeled after the shape of Marie Antoinette, which they are not. Not true. He puts in brackets. I'm not the whole shape.

of her it was supposed to be the coop which is like the very shallow rounded was supposed to be based on her breast yeah there you go right okay so but it's not it's not no and what uh conan or conan is saying is that in hong kong what is true is that they sell a dumpling that is named after the breasts of an actress in Hong Kong called Amy Yip.

And these are dumplings that can weigh up to 350 grams. And they even have half full boiled eggs inside of them. Like women's breasts do, right? If my biology knowledge is anything.

thing to go by i think that is how it works yeah i actually remember amy yip now that i've looked it up she starred in quite a few chinese movies that were slightly erotic and i remember as a kid in the late 90s seeing a movie come on tv called erotic ghost story and watching that and she was suddenly we see where it all comes from originally it was really steamy like it was like i was way too young to be watching this movie what's interesting is because she was known for um largely for

how voluptuous she was. She never did full nude scenes in movies. what they did was they used to do clever camera angles that would show side breast and so on that gave you the impression that you think you had and this was known in the industry because she's called amy yip as a yip tease and it would be the not full exposure

That's very good. Of Amy Gibbon movies. Yeah. Well, well, well. And she's really cool. She's an amazing actress. I'll be honest, Dan. I sent it to you because there was a Hong Kong connection and I didn't realise I was giving you this Proustian moment.

catapulting you back to your first interest in the paranormal. I'm sort of sorry, but I'm actually not sorry. I'm interested that that happened. Yeah, like Proust nibbled on a Madeleine and Dan nibbled on a breast-shaped dumpling. It's a big moment for me. Thank you, Andy.

There's a new company in the UK that's just announced they've launched five actual breast-shaped champagne glasses. Have they? I think they've taken real women's breasts and they've modelled their glasses on that as a kind of...

riposte to the french saying these glasses actually are based on on brass but i don't yeah very nice okay let's go another fact you andy all right here here's one this is from sandeep jandu who's a biology phd student studying mosquitoes So has sent a fact about ants. There is an ant which produces offspring of a different species to the ant. Okay. The original ant. It's insane. Like a surrogate? Kind of. You know what? I read this story quite recently and good luck explaining it.

Okay, I'll give it a go. Basically, lots of ant queens, they produce workers. And a lot of them produce hybrid workers taking sperm from another species. This is called sperm parasitism. That's a thing that happens in several species. But these ants, they're called Mesoribericus. They're incredibly weird. They do need sperm from another species. And the female queen stores sperm from another species of ant.

And then she uses that to fertilize her eggs. But when she lays the eggs, she removes, I don't know if we know how this is done, she removes her own DNA or her own species DNA from these eggs. So she has basically made a clone.

of the other ant species whose sperm she used to make the workers, right? That's so weird. And basically, she's created a completely separate species to herself. But here's the really weird thing. That other species... doesn't exist where they live right so where did she get the sperm from wow and what we think happened is probably they did overlap with that other species

like many moons ago, but she's been able to continually sort of clone it and clone it and clone it so that it doesn't matter that the other species don't live there anymore. Wow, that is nuts. The authors of this study have coined this word xenoparity. which is like a two species organism it's mad the explanation i found by one of the scientists behind it i think is that it's the equivalent of a human having a chimpanzee like giving birth to a chimpanzee

but we then use that chimpanzee to sire a race of human chimp hybrids to do all our housework for us. Are they suggesting we do that? They're not suggesting we don't do that. So thank you, Sandeep. insane that's incredible bananas fact i read something which is relevant this will become relevant in a second have you guys heard of devil's gardens

No. So this is in the Amazon basin and what will happen is people will be walking through and suddenly they'll come to a clearing. Like it looks like someone's just cleared the area but there'll just be a few trees that are still up. Uh-huh. So...

for a long time locals attributed this to a shape-shifting demon who they thought liked to cause misfortune and so on and you'd walk there and you would get bad things that would happen to you turns out when scientists looked into it it's a type of ant It's an ant which is called the lemon ant.

And it produces a natural formic acid, which injects into a lot of the plants in the area and kills them off, except for certain plants that they want to keep, which have hollow roots in them or hollow stems that the ants then nest in.

So it's their whole nesting area. And some of these areas have been lasting for 800 years or so. Wow. And yeah. And so for ages, it was a superstition of the area. But it just turns out the lemon ants have been creating these houses in these trees. Amazon's suffering enough. Knock it off, ants.

It's hardly fair to blame the ants considering what we're doing. Completely, completely, completely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, why don't we get more facts? James? Yeah, here's one from Harrison Lee. Harrison Lee writes that I am currently vacationing in Salzburg, Austria, the birthplace of Mozart, and learned that Mozart chocolate has nothing to do with Mozart.

The chocolate was invented 100 years after his death. Further, the most commonly sold Mozart chocolate is made by a German company, Reba. Wait, are they suggesting... That as well as composing amazing tunes, Mozart started a line of chocolate. I'll be honest, I wasn't massively surprised, Harrison, by this. I didn't think Mozart made these. He appears on... I've been there. He's on the chocolate itself. Exactly. They're called Mozart balls. Yeah. But do you know who invented them first?

Who invented the Mozart balls? First. Beethoven. No, no. I keep telling you Paul first invented them. He was a guy, but he was from Salzburg in fairness. But yeah, they're now made by this German company. Peter Second must have been absolutely gutted. Have you guys ever flown out of Salzburg on an airplane? I haven't. As someone who's a nervous flyer, it's one of the most terrifying runways because the runway at the end of it is just a giant cliff face.

So if you haven't got the right height, you're just going bang into the cliff face. As they go along the runway, do the planes go, duh, duh, duh. Duh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a joke about Bane Evans 5th. but this is Mozart. Please edit that bit out. Beethoven was from Vienna. Carry on. That reminds me of, similarly in Bhutan, Timpu Airport, you come out of the airport, off the runway, right in front of you.

is a cliff, so you bank left to get out of the cliff, and when you bank left, there's another cliff, and you have to bank right to get out of it, so you have to do a zigzag to get out. Jeez, that's why I could arrive in Bhutan but never leave if I went. That is nuts. That and you also would probably marry a Yeti. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, exactly. I was sat on that plane, by the way, when we were taking off next to a pilot who was hitching a ride.

and i said to him he wasn't itching he wasn't just stood on the wrong way yeah he was we pulled over i opened the emergency door he was he's i said to him this is crazy you've got a cliff at the end of the runway what happens if you if you go too low and he just went

Don't go too low. Yeah. Like the cockiness of these guys. You've got to have it right. So there's a cliff at the end of the... So it's not a cliff edge. No, it's a cliff. It's a cliff. Face. Right, right, right. So the da-da-da-da joke doesn't work for that reason either. Well, I don't think we need to spend any more time on that joke. Good to know it stayed in. What joke, you mean? Think about the last time you had to cancel a subscription.

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Why don't you do another fact? Yeah, yeah. So this is from Kerry in Queensland. And she says, I love Antipodean trivia on the podcast. And here's one that I found. In 1873, bush ranger Harry Redford was unanimously acquitted of cattle theft. only because the jury was so impressed by how he managed the feat.

That's good. Yeah. So this is a pretty amazing story. This guy, Harry Redford, there's Reedford Redford, there's different spellings of his name. Well, Australian listeners don't mind if we mispronounce something. We are terrible. Queensland, Queensland. I'm so nervous about how I said that. But so basically, he stole the numbers vary from 300 to 1000 cattle. And he knew that he couldn't sell them locally.

So he had to get to another bit of Australia. He decided to cross 1,500 kilometers worth of Australian desert. Was it the Nullarbor Plain? It was. Don't do it. Don't do it. This is only 10 years earlier, Burke and Wills, who were two explorers who tried to do the same feat, died in this process. Also, they didn't bring a thousand cows to eat, did they? The fools? Big mistake. Always bring a thousand.

No, so he managed this. And so at the trial, the very fact that he'd managed this amazing feat kind of acquitted him because they just thought that's too impressive. And then it sounds like... It doesn't really feel like that's how... it should work? No. I don't know. I think if I mugged someone and then I ran away to the North Pole and I was the first person who'd ever done it with their wallet. You know what I mean? I think that sort of does take precedence.

Yeah, I think the judge, because it was up to the jury to decide, he said, you're lucky it wasn't me deciding because the jury were the ones. And then there's a weird detail that we've been sent by Kerry which says that his trial was delayed for more than a year because of how long it took to gather the witnesses. one of whom was a bull oh come on um i'd like to call 999 more bulls

Yeah, so that's the story of Harry Redford. Andy. Yeah, I've actually got another Aussie one. This is from Ari Toon Sammonson, and it's that the annual Henley on Todd regatta in Australia... boat race was cancelled in 1993 because the river Todd was wet. What? There's a river which is normally dry. Yeah. And there's a place. Henley on Dobrogatta happens. It's in Alice Springs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Made famous, of course, by Neville Shute's brilliant novel, A Town Like Alice.

which is not actually set in Alice Springs. It's just about a town that's like Alice Springs. Anyway. Is it? Yeah. Living Next Door to Alice, that song by Roy Chubby Brown. That was about someone who lived in the next town. Yeah, and international listeners, if you don't know who Roy Chubby Brown is, don't look him up. What a source to bring in.

With a gun to my head, I would not have guessed the next name you named would be Roy Chubby Brown. Real name Royston Vasey, which is where the League of Gentlemen fake town is set. Yeah. Huh. It was based in Royston Vasey. Roy Chubby Brown's real name is Royston Vasey? Yeah. Yeah. Good trivia. Great trivia. We can always pull it back, can't we? Absolutely. Anyway.

But this is the world's only dry river boating event. People make boats and then they run along with them like the Flintstones in the dry riverbed. That's been going on for... I think about 60 years now. But in 1993, there was flooding and it had to be cancelled because the building was wet. It's great.

OK, here's the last one from me by Dave Rule. Dave Rule writes, long time listener, first time caller. I thought you might appreciate this list of things unexpectedly named after people. I had heard most of these, but definitely not all of them. So. Google's PageRank, which is the tool for ranking web pages, is named after Larry Page. Okay. Lovely.

Main Street San Francisco is named after Charles Main. Come on. I've never heard that. Snowflake Arizona is named after two people, Mr. Snow and Mr. Flake. And Taco Bell is named after a guy called Glenn. bell wow that's good that's really good snowflake is amazing so i looked into my files for some more sort of weirdly named things um the insult dum-dum

Like if you call someone a dum-dum, that's named after a town in India. Is it? Right. Yeah, because you think it's because someone's dumb, but actually it's like a pun on that because dum-dums were a type of bullet. And these bullets were first made in a town called Dum Dum near Kolkata. German chocolate cake is named after someone called Samuel German. um and that was it was invented in the us uh and the indonesian football team called simon padang

is named after a local cement company called Seaman Cement. Oh, wow. Wow. I was going to say David Seaman, the goalie. Yes, that would have been good. Seaman Cement. Yeah. You can make your own jokes up for that one. Absolutely.

Well, brilliant. Thank you, everyone, for sending in your facts. We're going to be doing this every Monday. But before we wrap up today, we have a very important job to do, which is that members of the highest level of Clubfish, known as Friends of the Podcast. All as a reward for joining us at that highest bit. Get given custodianship over one of the facts that we have done over the past 11 years of Phish episodes. And so we are now going to dish out some more facts.

to some of those people. So, Andy, let's start with you. Yeah, I got one. This goes out to Stu Rottenberry. Congratulations, Stu. Your fact is one of my old facts. It's that the words Tory and Prime Minister both started out as insults. And you could say they still are, actually. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, the king of satire over there. Yeah, I think a Tory is a kind of Irish raider.

Yeah, that's right. It was a kind of bandit who operated in Ireland. And I think Prime Minister was the idea that you were taking the piss that this person thinks they're in charge when actually they're head of a larger group of people. Is that right? That's it. It's exactly that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, here is one. This was originally by Anna, and it's now under the custodianship of another Anna, Anna Darlene.

And Anna says that in a 2005 questionnaire about substance abuse, one in five admitted to taking a drug which doesn't exist. Can anyone remember the name of the drug? I think it was called Derbisol. Dev, it's good memory, Andy. Wow. That's right. This is episode 11. Yeah, I can't remember anything from episode...

12 to 600 but yeah yeah that's all that's right so it was just basically they put in a load of drugs have you taken them and they put in this one that didn't exist uh just to catch people out who are lying lovely Brilliant. Okay, well, let's do another one. This one goes to a group of people. Team Charnedy. Team Charnedy. What do you think? What's that pronunciation? Charnedy. It could be that this person's first name is Team.

That's very true. Or it could be team Charlotte and Eddie. Sean Eddie. Yes. Oh, like maybe it's Charles and Eddie. They're singers from the 1990s. Or Prince Charles. Would I like them? Would I lie to you, baby? Would I lie to you? James, you're throwing in a lot of references. that have even got rid of me as an understander. Well, this is... It could be Prince Charles and Prince Edward, of course. Either way, it's suddenly a celeb-packed show. This is very exciting.

Your Highnesses and excellent musicians, thank you for listening. And you now are the custodians of a fact that I said in episode 11, which is that sea otters... have a secret pocket that they like to keep their stones in. Very good. It's a special secret pocket. It's a secret pocket. Much like the royal family have their own jewels.

Yes. Oh, brilliant. Which they keep in a secret tower in the middle of London. Nice. Yes. And their own secrets, which we don't need to get into. We don't. Not while they're listening anyway. But yeah, so thank you very much. Team. Okay, why don't we get one from you, Andy? Alright, this fact goes out to Dries Belinks and it's that knobs have been made illegal in Vancouver.

i'm referring of course to doorknobs this was the james fact it's absolutely straight on brand for me isn't it make it sound a bit more rude than it actually is i think this was an early day classic and i've said this a few times about the early day classics of No Such Thing as a Fish. But the reason I say it is for this one is, do you remember in the very early days of Fish, we produced some business cards?

So when we started out, we handed out business cards to people saying, we've got this new podcast. And on the back of it, it had a fact from each one of us. And that was your fact, James, for your business card. I didn't recall that at all. Very few podcasts, I think, now have business cards. And I think that's a shame.

Well, yeah, because look what it did for us. Here we are 11 years later. I know, absolutely. But the off-menu boys, I don't think, are carrying around a stack of cards with a fact about food on them. And that's why... Who? Couldn't agree more. Yeah.

all right well uh okay next fact i just want to say that i really like off menu and those guys if they want to come on our podcast it would be more than welcome that's a good point uh okay let's get to another fact here so we have episode 12 we're now going into James why don't you give us this one okay I can tell you mine from episode 12 it was the first fact in that episode and it was that if the new Godzilla

Which is very much now the old Godzilla. If the new Godzilla existed, it would produce 12.9 million gallons of urine a day. And that fact is now under the custodianship of Douglas. Owen, so congratulations to you, Douglas. Very, very nice. So I guess there must have been a new Godzilla film out, right? I think it was made by Gareth Edwards, who you and I had on Museum of Curiosity. So we knew Gareth. We had a few nights out with him. I saw it in the cinema. Yeah.

There's a very exciting bit. Spoiler alert. Sorry, yeah. What's the exciting bit? It's just a bit where some people are trying to parachute down, I believe, onto Godzilla. It's an exciting moment. It's been a while since I've seen the film because this was 11 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, 12.9 million gallons of urine, eh? Makes you think. How many gallons are there in itself?

an Olympic swimming pool. 660,000 gallons. So that's 20 Olympic swimming pools of urine a day. And that's going to ruin those Olympics, isn't it? All right, let's get a few more. Andy, do you want to read the next one? This is a fact that goes out to Stephen Armstrong Worthington. Congratulations to you, Stephen. It's a great fact. It's that. I love this fact. The real Long John Silver from Treasure Island was father to the real Wendy from Peter Pan. What? I know.

I know. Do we really know who the real Long John Silver was? Well, he was inspired by William Henley. who was a writer and an editor. And also started that regatta in Australia. Yeah, amazing guy. He wrote this poem Invictus, which is all about being unconquered and it's all about being a... you know, knowing, being captain of your soul, it was quite stirring stuff. And so he clearly, and he had a daughter who was called Margaret Henley, and that inspired J.M. Barry.

To choose the name Wendy for Peter Penn. Oh, okay. Because she was his Wendy Wendy. That's it. Very nice. Yeah. So anyway, I love that fact. There you go. Congratulations, Stephen. Okay, let's get another one. This was my fact from episode 12, and this is going to Sean Donaway. The fact is that tinfoil hats worn by conspiracy theorists would actually... amplify the signal. Very good. Brilliant.

So the idea, if you don't know it, is that people believe that if you wear a tinfoil hat, it's going to stop the government from getting into your brain, from getting signals out of there. So it's an anti-stealing ideas device. And then some scientists... did a test on it and they worked out that if anything it would amplify a signal rather than decrease it um

And that's why you wear the anti-5G bracelet, isn't it, Dan? Because that's been proven to work under lab conditions. I only work with proof. Yeah. There you go, Sean Donaway. It's a great story, great study. Shall we do one more? Let's do one more. The fact that now belongs to Shona McLean. The geese sometimes fly upside down to lose height quickly when coming into land, but their head and neck stay the right way up. And this is called whiffling.

It's got Murray all over it, that fact. I love this fact. He loves a wiffle. This is probably the fact, if someone asks me for a fact...

It's one of the top two or three that occur to me to say to someone. Is it? Yeah, there's one inappropriate one, which I can't remember. Oh, it's about kangaroos and their intimate parts. And then this fact is the one I say when I've got rid of that fact from my head. Geese fly upside down. And if you've never seen a photo of a... goose whiffling it's amazing you've got to google it very cool because they look so silly yeah it is incredible

Well, there we go. We've dished out eight new custodians facts for this episode. Congratulations to you all. Hope you're happy with the facts that you got. If you would like to get one of your own facts, well, all you need to do is go to patreon.com slash no such.

thing as a fish and if you join the friend of the podcast here you automatically will be issued one and then we will read it out at some point on one of these episodes otherwise if you want to send a fact in for little fish podcast at qi.com

Andy goes through it all, as I said at the top, and he'll pick some more for next week's episode. So get hunting and send them in. All right, everyone, we'll see you again next week. And we'll also see you on Friday for the main No Such Thing as a Fish episode. And until then, goodbye.