Hi everyone, welcome to this week's episode of No Such Thing As A Fish. One little bit of time-sensitive news to let you know this morning or afternoon or evening depending on when you're listening is that we are doing a live show coming up next Monday, that's Monday the 12th of August and it is in London at the other belly. It's going to be a full podcast and then in between we're going to do lots of little bits and pieces that we're trying
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very special guest on today's show. Who is it Anna? It is none other than the hero of many of our youths, anyone who watched Jackass as a kid or a teen and current hero still Johnny Knoxville. We were so excited to learn a few months ago that he is a fan of No Such Thing As A Fish and in fact just a big old nerd and so we persuaded him to come on the show and it was truly brilliant. So fun to do it with someone who knows exactly what it's about and it was a genuine geek about
so many cool things. He himself has another brilliant podcast called Pretty Sure I Can Fly. It is an exploration of things that limit human beings and then the people who smash down those limitations they interview awesome people who've done incredible things it's him and Elna Baker who you might know from this American live definitely worth listening to but first of all hello Andy here we actually have a bonus announcement which is that we are making a sneaky trip to the Edinburgh
Fringe in just a few days time. On the 14th of August we're going to be at the Edinburgh Playhouse at 8pm. This is our last pre-tour live show so it's just going to be a brand new episode of the podcast itself. It's going to be so much fun if you're at the Fringe or if you know someone who is or if you simply live in Edinburgh we would love to see you there and to lure as many of you in as possible we have sneakily lowered ticket prices so there are now plenty of tickets available
for just 25 pounds. If you would like to come and see us go to No Such Thing As A Fish.com slash live that's it hope to see you there on with the show. Hello and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing As A Fish a weekly podcast coming to you from four undisclosed locations around the world. My name is Dan Shriver I'm sitting here with James Harkin Anna Toshinsky and Johnny Knoxville and once again we have gathered around the microphones with
our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in no particular order here we go. Starting with fact number one that is Johnny. Johnny Paycheck who scored a number one hit with take this job and shove it once shot a man over a bowl of turtle soup. Country music is so badass. Yeah guys don't pre-judge because he had had a day. Yeah he had a day. Go and justify it. Wait what do you mean over a bowl of turtle soup? Well I'm going to get to that later but he took umbridge to the fact
that he was offered a bowl of turtle soup and so he had to retaliate he had no choice. So you've got to be careful Anna because I don't want you to be shot over a discussion of a shooting over some turtle soup because that's it. Thank God this is on scene. Yeah he's in a bar right and a fan
cool. He's mind in his own bit. Yeah he was it. What happened was it was 1985 he just wound up his tour and he was hanging out at a Hell's Angels Clubhouse because he loved to hang out the Hell's Angels and at that point a bomb threat got called in from another motorcycle gang so thinking
quickly he gathered up all the cocaine in the clubhouse got in his car and took off and he's going to his mom's house in Ohio along the way he stops at this bar right and he is pinned on cocaine and he walks in and these two guys walk up to him and really crowd him and talking to him really chatty. One guy's name is Larry Wise and they start drinking together and they exchange hats which incensed paycheck it made him angry. One was holding a bottle and I believe uh paychecks
lawyer later said that that he was scared of broken bottles and that further inflamed him. I think that's some bullshit they made up afterwards. Then the guys like hey uh Johnny we got some turtle soup out in the truck would you like some turtle soup and that was the final straw right. Cool. He thought well they must think I'm some kind of hick and so he pulled his 22 out of his waistband and shot Larry in the head but Johnny so short it just skims up his brow and shoots his hat off.
You make him sound like a borrower. He called me last. Yeah Larry didn't even know he'd been shot until he'd been over and his ears were ringing and he saw blood all over the floor and at that point he said I know that I had been shot and he just runs out of the bars as fast as he can and paycheck follows him going oh come on back Larry I won't shoot you no more. Wow that's really interesting I didn't know this story and I thought well for me turtle soup is supposed to
be really tasty no yeah uh I've never had it. I think wasn't the thing that in the 19th century all the posh people loved it and it was meant to be delicious and then fell out of favor but is it a hick thing do we think it was meant as an insult? No I think they were just he was he was on
like eight ball or two so anything was going to come across weird to Johnny paycheck. Yeah and he fought it for ages didn't he was it went back and forth as a case about whether or not he was guilty and it was only years later that he eventually was found guilty by a court and and got a jail sentence off the back of it. Yeah for in 91 he went to Chilikothe prison for seven to nine years but he was only in there for two before the governor Big Dick Celeste uh pardon him. Did he give
himself that big name? Yeah that was uh yeah that was self given. If you're a man called Celeste I think you've got to have Big Dick as the pre-amateur. Who is this um Johnny paycheck then Johnny? Because I'm not into country music I must admit is he a big name? Yes he was a wonderful bass player and singer he he played with George Jones for many years and then he went out on his own in the 60s actually him and his friend founded little darling records in the 60s so he was
way ahead of the curve on that and in the 70s he had a lot of hits with the outlaw country movement which I actually was not familiar with the outlaw country movement but it sounds like a bunch of people just thought country was way too soft or had gone a bit soft and so outlaw country artists were basically the hardcore country guys right who lived really rough and ready lives and he used to be the extreme example. Like it couldn't help Johnny paycheck when he was in court and they
were citing previous songs that he had published like pardon me I've got someone to kill. I like him be a great drinkin in driving yeah his big song was called take this job and shove it and yeah that was written by a guy called David Allen Co who also spent time in chili co the prison and he only got into songwriting when he was in prison because one of the inmates that he was hanging out with was another guy called scream and j hawkins who is a huge singer he did that
song I put a spell on you but I mean that prison produced a lot of great countries. Can I just say this guy was in court right yeah and they're using his songs as evidence against him. I don't know I realize they're just songs like this guy who sang I put a spell on you did he get done for witchcraft yeah right no they obviously didn't I'm just saying when you've got a catalog
with quite aggressive murdery sounding things it can't help I think I think it does with drill music here which I don't even know if Johnny would know about right but sometimes that's sometimes used against people I believe drill music lyrics but yeah he became sort of a working class hero a bit
with take this job and shove it right I think people yes were were big foul of that because it was tough living in America around about that time people didn't like their bosses the New York times a bit of him described him as someone who led a rowdy jail prone life yeah quite a few prison
sentences yeah he got in trouble a lot he was on tour with Patsy Klein and he and he stole her car there played this fairgrounds and he stole her car and they're like up paycheck has stolen her car and they just closed the front gates of the fairgrounds and he just drove round and round the fairgrounds till the car ran out of gas and then he got out and went back to the show.
What's interesting is it sounds a bit like the rowdy life was slightly encouraged I was reading an interview with Willie Nelson so he was on the publicity road plugging his new book which was called roll me up and smoke me when I die and he was saying you know did you ever get into
scrapes just to have the material and his responses I don't want to mention any names but I do know one country singer whose manager would intentionally get him in trouble with his girlfriends and wives and then get him drunk just so that he could write because that's when he penned his best stuff
and then it sounds like Willie Nelson had a a wild life as well this is one of the questions from the interviewer your first wife Martha once sowed you up in a bedsheet while you were asleep and to beat you with a broomstick was she a particularly crafty woman or were you a really bad
husband oh there was a combination of both like these yeah in Willie didn't have to worry because he had this drummer Paul English who started out as a pimping for it worth and Willie was having trouble getting paid for his shows so he hired Paul English to be his drummer and collect for him
after the shows he had his gun and Bill Graham's mouth Paul English oh my god Bill Graham was like a famous promoter and Bill Graham was trying to hood wink them on the payment and he's like let me leave and I'll go get the money and English had his gun in his mouth says no you're going to stay
right here son send him to get the money and that guy went and got the money and Willie got paid how long did he wait just out of curiosity how long was that gun in the mouth because that you know a bank run can take a while can't it oh there was drooling you know hot now
he comes back 30 minutes later and he's like I forgot the pen I'm sorry I'm gonna have to go do it again is this what it's still like is Keith Urban rocking around with a revolver I don't think it's like it was in in the day oh well you know Billy Joe Shaver legendary singer
songwriter was in a barn Lorraine a Texas and this guy was being disrespectful to Billy Joe telling him to shut up after a while Billy Joe goes let's go outside son and they went outside and Billy Joe walked over to his car guys pissed or walk up to the man goes where do you want it
and then shot him in the mouth or as Billy Joe said right between the mother and the fucker and the guy lived out of interest when he asked the question where do you want it and then he shot him in the mouth had the guy asked for the mouth no he didn't answer right he didn't he didn't
give him time to answer which is where I have problem with the story but other than that you know I love Billy Joe sure yeah yeah the mouth no sorry the toe the toe I'm afraid I have to take your first answer just one thing about Johnny paycheck that kind of endeared me to him because he
is a rough guy and he led quite dark life but one quite sweet story I liked was um he was asked to sing the national anthem in a stadium before one of the Atlanta Falcons football games so he's there Falcons game the crowds is massive and as he struck the first chord he forgot all the words
they're American and he just it sounds awful and he said it was it was horrible and he just made up the words he just made up kind of nonsense words Paul guy I didn't know that story I have to look that I want to see if there's any footage of that I think there might be because they've
recorded what the lyrics were that he made up I think he was a songwriter so yeah imagine if they were just way better than the original yeah we changed it based on them and he did clean himself up later on I think didn't he Johnny paycheck and he would give anti drug talks to kids
and stuff but everyone was just still expecting him to be off his face on cocaine and piston all that kind of stuff so I think he kind of even though he was clean he did play up to it quite a lot yeah didn't he and that song take your take this job and shove it it got turned into a movie
yeah I really love this is the first movie to ever have a monster truck in it what is the bad news information how apparently it like started the big monster truck craze in America wow what a cool interlinking bit of history the guy who wrote take this job and
shove it as you mentioned earlier David Allen Cole between the ages of 9 and 35 he spent about half that time in prison in and out of correctional institutions and got out became a singer songwriter had a lot of success and but in the 80s he stopped singing to become a magician and let me tell you
he is the scariest looking magician you have ever seen so and ventriloquist and actually pin from pin and teller said that he saw David Allen Cole perform as a kid and he had a big influence on him really so yeah I don't know if I trust someone hanging around with that crew I'd expect if they
said they were going to saw someone in half they might just actually saw them in half yeah that would be serious um he's his son by the way as a podcaster so Tyler Mahanco and he makes the show called cocaine and rhinestones which actually sounds brilliant it's all about the sort of
mysteries of country music and the history of its stars and so on so yeah because Cole called himself the rhinestone cowboy didn't he and that was way before the mysterious rhinestone cowboy he formed in a mask and here's here's a picture of him when he was with his ventriloquist dummy
because he's most frightening I've talked to Tyler Cole about that and he goes my dad told me that dummy was real and alive and that really scared me when I was little I could just imagine someone going tell me where you want me to shoot you and the dummy goes it is mouth stop the podcast
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okay it is time for fact number two and that is my fact my fact is that in the 1980s skateboarder nautice carpice had his merchandise banned in many schools and shops because it was believed he was evil after some people noticed that his first name nautice spelled backwards was satan
wow and was it like had he changed his name to satan backwards no he's he's um I mean Johnny you actually you know this guy the skateboarder but he's Lithuanian by descent and yeah it's a it's a name there it means birth of Christ but it is satan backwards and when people saw that
there was a bit of a panic that what if this guy is in cooots with the devil we can't have his skateboard and backpack sold in our shops and so he suffered a sort of ban it wasn't a countrywide ban but certainly it affected him and made news so fun yeah he overcame that ban because he was
one of the most legendary street skaters him in mark and zalus you know I think nautice was the first guy to alley up on a rail and and and alley as the three of us have probably been learning some skating terminology and alley is the one where you jump in the air with your skateboard right
yeah it's where you it's where you so you need a skateboard that is got two bits that flip up at the end as opposed to like the street skate board where it's flat on one end push down slide your foot forward raising the air and land and you forget that done really is in to skate bottom yeah
I was a skater yeah my whole my whole teenage can are we in a podcast where 50% of us can do in alley yeah oh I I can't I'm tear I would only skate when we needed footage of someone smashing see a good at falling off yeah yes yeah I'm just on not as quickly he as john he's just pointed out
he was one of the originals he was one of the guys who took skating into the modern era such of street skating he was one of the first people if not the first credited with doing a grind down a rail he didn't land it that's still though is like yeah that doesn't count but the idea
the idea yeah for anyone could have an I can have an idea of oh what I'm gonna do you then if I can't do it then yeah but that's like saying any astronauts that died before they got to space because they should blew up aren't astronauts now you didn't make it funny oh it's not it's like
me saying that my daughter's got a little rocket ship and she's singing zoom zoom going to the moon and she's an astronaut no no he's come on he didn't just look at the rail and say I want to do that and then fall over it sounds like he actually got up onto it right yeah he also he also
innovated the idea of wall skating where you can go off the side of the street and literally go on the wall and come back down in land and so that was him as well and so he's a big he's a big player in the in the history of modern skating but it's interesting because skating has always been
associated with sort of debauchery and it's kind of like the country music of the sports world right yeah yeah obviously skating is just become an Olympic sport and the previous Olympics I think was the debut for it and so I went on their website and they've got a really interesting history
of skateboarding on there including the fact that in 1978 for a decade skateboarding was banned in Norway because kind of like like not us they just thought it's leading to all these deaths it's a bad influence and so on they'd heard that a hundred thousand people had been injured and that
28 children had died and so importing skateboards and having any ramps of any kind were not allowed in Norway and so there was a black market there was like a hidden forest area that people would set up half-pights and they would they would sneakly make black market boards that they would
pretend with something else and then you would turn them into a full skateboard and so it was through decade what do they pretend it was do you think they pretended it was a weird fluke or something it's still banned in Manchester in England is it skateboarding yeah yeah you're not lying because dangerous I think it was because it was associated with youths yeah do you know I mean like actually the place where everyone skateboards in Manchester they still do it they're just not
allowed to yeah I mean because you can't stop kids from skateboarding to be fair it's quite dangerous I think it is on safety grounds that it tends to be banned and people get injured it reminds me quite a lot of and I don't know if they have this in America as well but in Britain at the moment there's a lot of panic about scooters you know those electric scooters people ride they're so dangerous and there's a spurious stats thrown around about how dangerous they are but it's it's quite risky
but also that's what makes it cool and I was reading that the reason actually skateboarding really struggled to get into the Olympics for a while was because skateboarders didn't want to because the Olympics is kind of lame and really mainstream and normal people like me watch it every night
whereas skateboarders are really cool and so I think there was a you know a lot of organizations did not campaign to get included in the Olympics because a bit of a stretcher and I think we might have said this before we started recording about how breakdancing's coming into the Olympics
yeah soon and we're all looking forward to it but I know a lot of people in the breakdancing community were not happy about it being in the Olympics for that exact same reason yeah and what they thought was that a lot of ballroom dancers think that ballroom dancing should be in the Olympics
and all these different kind of dancing and they thought that the ballroom dancers were using break dancing as like a gateway drug to the Olympics and then once breakdances in all of the dancing will get and they thought the Olympics problem with that actually because there's some sports that
like dressage where the horse dances I'm like what is happening right now yeah my girlfriend loves it and I'll get in trouble for saying that but I'm just I can't get behind it I agree I think a lot of the question stuff is the horses need the metals some of the question the besters are
really quite old because I was thinking Britain sent a team of three skateboarders and it's the biggest age range in a skateboarding team and I thought maybe the guide that we sent Andy Mcdonald might be the oldest competitor so he's 51 I think I think actually I think he turned 52 yesterday
and the two other girls that we've sent are 16 so that's quite nice the team is two 16-year-olds and then someone who's more than three times their age but yeah in the question you get 60-something year olds yes just go to show it the horses aren't 60 something are they yeah you try to think what
event could I possibly do well in in the Olympics and it would have to be something where you sit on horse or yeah definitely I'm too old to be a skateboarder I reckon because I was reading about a 1080 trick which is six turns right on a skateboard that sounds impossible a six that sounds like
you want to try it I'll film it yeah I think is it not because it's that if it's the number of degrees it would be three turns right if it's 1080 yeah unless unless the 11-year-olds dad was standing at the side or just went to give them extra spins as they were going by I guess it is
it's three three sixties isn't it yeah the first person to ever do it on a standard ramp was 11 years old and it previously only been done on what's called a mega ramp which is a bit like a ski jump and the only people who'd done that last time I checked were 11 years old 12 years old
15 years old and 15 years old and I'd wondering at the age of 45 whether I'll maybe a bit beyond it well like I said the other guy is 51 so it obviously takes all sorts but it doesn't be dominated by people under the age of 20 usually when you see those it's like Tony Hawk waiting at
the bottom of the ramp with like a nine-year-old at this like 200 foot ramp and he's like just give it a go and that seems to be his gig at the moment forcing nine-year-olds down ramps Tony Hawk seems to be the only person who's gained mainstream fame and it's massive mainstream fame why not
totally sure how especially because he retired when he was 30 31 I think from competing anyway and the the thing I could find that he's done most recently is get into a big conversation with Apple about what the skateboard emoji should look like so when you try and say skateboard in your
what's that messages which we all do a lot obviously the skateboard there is based on his skateboard because when we've talked about the consortium that designs emojis but when they released what they thought was going to be their skateboard emoji in 2017 he messaged them being like that shit
that looks like something from the 80s here's a photo of my skateboard do you want to give it another good right so why is he so big because he is the only one I've heard of as well like he had video games and stuff right no one has done more for the sport of skateboarding than Tony he's like
the ambassador of skateboarding he's one of the greatest skaters of all time and he's very intelligent well spoken and he also when he landed the 900 back in I can't remember when it was he was already big but he exploded you know after that I think that's when the Tony Hawk games came out and he's
uh the 900 is that number of degrees turn yes yeah that is spinning round in the air yes loads of times loads of times off the big wrap he as James points out this the the the big moment in terms of commercialness was the video games Tony Hawk Pro Skater was a global sensation he effectively
became what Michael Jordan is debasquéble he became to skateboarding uh interestingly he's ruined the life of one man in the UK who is a quite well known comedian called Tony Hawk with an S at the end whose whole life has been absolutely ruined his online life with people mistakingly him
as the skater so a few years ago he actually published a book called Tony Hawk the A to Z of skateboarding where he replies to the emails of everyone who's asked him for skateboarding advice with just terrible uninformed responses that's gonna confuse people even more yeah people like me who do always confuse them now I'm like hang on he's the one who's written the skateboarding book when Jack asked started we got sued by this man named Jack As because we had ruined his good name
I never got to meet mr. As no I would love to mr. As suggests that the case is still going on the respectful way and there was some legal trouble with the guy from my hometown whose name was Reverend General Johnny Knoxville who sold plots of land on the moon and like oh yes I think he came
after me at one point and oh wow yeah interesting for my birthday when you are wanted to sue all my friends but my attorney taught me out of it I was just gonna make up some I don't know I just thought it'd be funny to like sue ten of my friends and then have to hire attorneys and just be
a big pain in their ass how many friends do you have left now Avengers well that's true I would have had to sue like three people multiple times yeah while we're talking about skateboarding I you know most of the Jack As guys we came from Big Brother magazine which was a skateboarding magazine
owned by Larry Flint he owned a bunch of mags not as art directed one of the articles I wrote for a snowboarding mag but anyway Big Brother there was a mix up in the shipping department one day and all the people that were supposed to get Big Brother magazine got taboo magazine which was
Larry Flint's dirtiest magazine and and all the people that were supposed to get taboo got Big Brother so it was it was really bad because a bunch of 14 year olds got taboo in a bunch of people the jackulators got you know Big Brother and I don't know who was more upset I would assume
the people who got taboo I don't know I think some of those 14 year olds were pretty delighted oh best day I've seen it taken yeah I found a skateboarding record I think we could break oh Guinness World Record okay um I think well maybe Johnny or Dan you can say I'm totally wrong
but basically on February 17th 2017 a guy called Brandon Gonzalez performed a stationary manual that lasted two hours and 55 minutes and now I obviously have to look up what that was but it's just standing it's just standing on your skateboard right no with one foot in the air and one foot
on the ground no but the but the the tail can't touch the ground oh can it not so it's a balance act you would be balancing I didn't see that from the picture on the two bag wheels yeah and doing her 27th hour standing on a skateboard come on guys I'm absolutely smashing this
so easy Guinness adjudicated going behind her going oh shit I didn't see okay no I got this wrong man okay I take that back I'm sorry okay yeah no is the answer we cannot break that one okay it is time for fact number three that is Anna my fight this week as that when Chuck Yeager
broke the sound barrier he brought 220 gallons of alcohol on the flight with him nice I've done a trick in us Anna I've done a trick but I found this so surprising so Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in 1947 in the Bell X1 plane and the fuel it used was alcohol like it was just a huge
tank of alcohol so it was burning liquid oxygen and then a mixture of five parts alcohol to one part water which seems incredibly weird and is not something that like occasionally you talk about alcohol fuel there are jokes that Prince Charles runs his cars off wine there are certain places that
use ethanol in their vehicles but it doesn't seem that ordinary but it seems like yeah he ran them off ethanol I am actually it's quite dangerous I suppose you wouldn't want to drop a drop a lit match in there but then you wouldn't want to drink it half way through the flight either yeah well if you distill it through a sock it's probably safe because I think that's what people in prison do with robbing alcohol they distill it through their sock and then but hey kids don't do that you know
I'll tell you know if you're desperate if you run out of wine yeah was that fuel for all the P-51 bombers at the time I'm not sure I know it was fuel for the flights that he flew over that time period yeah I don't think he will live in I think because this was a very experimental plane right yeah
yeah it was more modeled on a rocket I think and he nicknamed it sweetly the glamorous glenous after his fiancee who was called glenous fae dickhead I know thank god he didn't go for the surname we imagine a sound very big our product is a production company really yeah that's our
production companies well no no it just that's a coincidence yeah and it was sweet but I remember it there's reading a book about Chuck Yeager and to Wu is wife he said stick with me honey and you'll be farting through silk had a real way with words Chuck Yeager nice the night before he broke the
soundberry this is widely known he he broke his ribs in a horse riding accident and the doctor who is rumored to have patched him up was this man Colonel John Paul Stapp now he was a physician flight surgeon and led some of the most groundbreaking experiments on deceleration it was like the late
forties to mid fifties and they were trying to determine what was like for pilots to eject at high altitudes and also what they can withstand in a plane crash so they thought I'm person could only withstand 18 G's of force in a G is like the amount of force the earth's gravitational field exerts
on human body when you're standing still anyway they thought they could only withstand 18 G's and he knew that was wrong because being a flight surgeon he could look at the crash records and see that these pilots had was stood more than that but the plane had failed so he did all these experiments and one was they had this rocket sled and he would strap himself to it and he would go up to speeds which eventually reach 630 miles an hour and stop within 1.5 seconds oh yeah it's not safe no and 630
miles an hour by the way was faster than a speeding bullet at that time wow and come to a complete stop and I think the last time he did it he experienced 46.2 G's wow and he went temporarily blind afterwards and not only that not only did he go temporarily blind but he ended up with two black
eyes because when he stopped his eyes shot forward into his sockets so hot like somebody sees Jessica and Rappan yeah exactly they went like a tank and he ended up with black eyes and prior to doing it he was so sure that this blindness would happen that he spent a lot of time in his room blindfolded and trying to work out how to exist without sight anymore because he thought that's what's going to happen that's so cool that's like being punched in the face from the inside isn't it
yeah I think am I right that he broke the land speed record I think at time fast this man on earth yeah time magazine did a bit he was on all the TV shows he was a huge star then and now no one knows him yeah that's weird I read that when he stopped for that instant his
body weighed about 7,700 pounds what yeah which is about the same as a white rhino wow because your weight is your mass times the gravitational weight but he didn't balloon to it did he no no no it's just like it's more of a mathematical thing really yeah what a shame he was trying to prove what humans could withstand but it feels like there's a loose definition of withstand because yeah he went blind had black eyes he cracked his ribs he broke his wrists his respiratory and circulatory
systems were really bad he damaged I mean you know there's with standing in there's um living through in good health isn't there yeah there's with standing in there's a showing off yeah exactly there's a thin line between a great guitar fill in a smart-ass guitar player he's quite get that
but I think I agree with it he's also the reason by the way for the term Murphy's law yeah have Murphy's law because of him yeah because on on an experiment that was done five years earlier where they're testing out the speeds it was Captain Murphy who was part of the test and afterwards
when staff was utterly injured like really broken Murphy just kind of exclaimed that anything that can go wrong will go wrong in different words that became Murphy's law it needs an adendum anything that can go wrong will go wrong if you are working with Colonel John Stapp
who doesn't mental shit staff did nothing wrong he was just the passenger it was Murphy have you Johnny I imagine within the the world of jackass that you've done a few things testing the pull of gravity um well gravity is the funniest comedian of all time in my opinion I never reached a speed
of 630 miles an hour on anything but yeah gravity did play a part that in Newton's third law of motion without those two things that have no career I think going for physics yes thank god that's so good you know staff is also the reason we have seat belts and cars now yeah he was
also testing restraint systems and finally got the Air Force to listen when he explained that we're losing more pilots on the ground than we are in the air and there's a staff car crash conference that he founded I think still goes on today so wow what a good guy yeah so he's
talking about Chuck giga oh yeah yeah um he was really hardcore another really hardcore one along with those country artists in world war two he distinguished himself by being just amazing at dogfighting basically didn't he and he loved it so great in the plane but he had this
episode I didn't know about where he was shot down over France and so he has to bail out with his parachute and he said he could see German soldiers all over the ground below but luckily he landed in a forest but this meant he had to climb over the mountains to cross the border to get into safe
territory and so he's like knee deep and snow he's had to bail out of his plane he's with a comrade yeah and they almost get caught and have a really awful scrape when they find a hot to sleep in and the guy he's with leaves his socks outside the cabin to dry which I'll be so pissed
off about German soldiers came past how does when they distilling their alcohol that's oh wow so yeah the Germans came past and they start shooting at them so that they leap out of the window and his navigator is the guy with him is badly shot but then an incredibly cool thing I think
this is what happened they both jumped onto or Chuck basically carried his badly injured navigator onto a lock slide which I think must have just been one of those log flumes that they used to carry logs down mountain and they cascaded down the mountain on this logside to escape he then
amputates his friend's leg with a pen knife yeah just out of anger because he's so pissed off it that's one less sark you'll need but yeah and then he it takes his leg off and then he leaves him by the side of the road says bye and fortunately he's rescued and saved but I mean Jaeger didn't
know that Jaeger just left yeah left the legless man on the side of the road and yeah he had one leg he didn't he didn't take both this leg so he got to make some hard decisions yeah yeah yeah by the resistance and at the time if you spent time with the resistance and got back to
America you were no longer allowed to fly again because if you got shot down again you may give up the resistance but he went to Washington and lobbied to I don't know it was Washington but he he lobbied with a general and said look I want to go back if I get caught I won't say a word and I think he
was the first person to be allowed to fly again after being captured wow and this is Jaeger right yeah when he was young this was way before he was Chuck Jaeger this was just just a hard-ass kid because then when he was doing that all of his flying afterwards by all rights he should have been
one of the first astronauts right you would have expected it to be like he couldn't get in because he didn't have a degree and I get the feeling that that really pissed him off for pretty much his whole life after that yeah impression it's interesting there's it's a big role in the movie
The Right Stuff which was a book by Tom Wolf where you see him sort of getting overlooked because he was the man you know he yes he could do anything in the movie he kind of makes pizza with it but yeah you get the impression that he should have been there with Neil on the moon wow widely
recognized as the greatest natural pilot to ever live he had 2010 vision yeah yeah what uses bill for it what is that because I thought 2020 was the best but it's clearly not right if 2010 is better anything that you can see from 10 meters he could see the same from 20 meters okay
so his twice as good as you twice as good actually a lot more than that for you but for a normal person yeah yeah I thought good first of the use of that how interesting and he so I mean bringing up the Apollo astronauts the Gleines Faye his wife such a it's such a shame that the sound
barrier wasn't broken in a plane called the dickhouse that's such a shame but he named he named three of his initial planes after her the glamorous Glenn and then Gleines became a name afterwards and they were married until his dying day and I think her her dying day in fact sorry her dying
day he died 2020 didn't he I used to I used to follow him on Facebook he used to get updates all the time from from Chucky Ager he was very active on Facebook yeah but yeah that was rare all the Apollo and Mercury astronauts ended in divorce multiple times in him and his wife were a unit all the way
to the end and in fact I think he used that when he was when there was a discussing he was going to try and break the sound barrier he was going to be our test pilot I think they said there was an argument that it should be someone who was single and childless because then if they died
it didn't matter it was just one person and I think he argued no it's much better to choose someone like me who's got a wife and a little boy who I love because I'll be much more careful and so I'll make sure that I do survive it it's an argument that worked for him so we don't need to
interrogate now fell it up with booze I'm going on the whole side he did an experiment with Colonel John Paul staff as well they did a wind blast experiment where they went up in a plane without a canopy on it and reach speeds of over 500 miles an hour and people were saying no don't
do that you're going to be decapitated this or that but you know they were fine. Decapitated by just the that and that much the wind yeah how were they fine I'm really surprised because I'm a story that has always told about me is when my mom was driving the car when I was a baby and they
had you know you had like a you've got roof window what'd you call it? Sunroof. Sunroof thank you and my dad was holding me and my mom was a very fast driver and my dad thought it'd be really funny to lift me up he was just holding me on his lap lifted me up and put my head out of the window and my mom said she's never been so furious with him I mean in a way it's her fault for driving at 100 miles an hour along main road but I think I think it wasn't that fun for me as a baby.
I'll be honest Anna I don't think Eddie Wong comes out well with that story. I was an innocent victim. I can just see in the background Johnny slightly going tell me those footage that I can use. Oh yeah they survived it. Okay it is time for our final fact of the show and that is James. Okay my fact this week is that according to tradition of the
Bama People of Ethiopia before a man can become a man he has to learn how to walk on stilts. Okay you know like I see I don't drive but I'm told that if I fail the driving test enough times they just give it to you. Is there like a that's not true. That's not true. No no no and I'll learn then okay. How many times can you fall off the stilts before they just go okay have your penis anyway?
Yeah exactly. I think they always have a penis. It's just like their culture has got like quite a complex level of age groups like you go from this age group to this age group to this age group and to go from and actually this is true of a lot of people around the world but to go from adolescence to manhood they have a ceremony and part of that ceremony involves them having to strike a balance on stilts and it's supposed to show that you're strong-minded,
independently-willed, confident and ready to take on a wife. Okay. It's got all women one. Yeah man they can walk on stilts. Yeah I've walked on stilts before. It's pretty. Yeah yeah I've had you know not ginormously high ones but I would say four feet in the air at least and that's high. Yeah fine they're really easy to get used to. Yeah straight away. What was the context in which you're walking on stilts? I think I was at a house that just had a lot of party gear and stilts
were part of the gear and I just gave it a batch. Maybe you just have a natural affinity to stilts. Wow yeah. It can't be that easy because people make a living from doing it so it can't be that.
Well no but they do more complicated things with it right like I'm just yeah and they do it in funny clothes and to be fair when I was watching a video of these banner kids and kids on stils and they mostly look like they're having so much fun and they find it extremely entertaining which it would be and also the interviewer says to one of these little kids who's just running around on stilts so how long have you been doing this? How long does it take to get ready? Is it
months years and the guys like I just started yesterday mate. I mean so maybe I think Dan might be right. I think I'm like this is a piece of cake. You may be right and the idea was that the tribe would traditionally use stilts to avoid wild animals. And also you can see over the savanna. Yes. Absolutely because actually there's a tradition in Europe of shepherds using stilts for the same reason because you can get much higher up and you can see where all your sheep's are
and stuff like that. Is this the landess region? It's over quite a lot of years. Yeah. Yeah the landess especially. The landess in southwestern France this is amazing. They basically everyone in this town existed on stilts but it largely was the farmers and exactly it was for that. You would you would be on your stilts so that you could see where all your sheep where it was also very mushy and muddy in the ground and so it was very useful to get around by standing on the stilt.
You had a big stick which was what you would use to what's the word for when you're getting the sheep into. Shepard? Yeah you'd shepherd them with your big old chickens but you would then use the big stick as a seat so like a tripod so you'd place your bum on and they would just do their knitting all day long. Would they? Yeah that's nice. With their recently
shorn sheep's wool presumably. Yeah exactly. Well I'll see you do with it. Lovely. These the band of people it's weird that they say it's to then escape predators because they also paint their bodies in black and white stripes that do resemble quite closely a zebra. It kind of
them and I was offering tips. I don't disguise itself as a zebra. Yeah that's true. One of the other ceremonies that they do is when they're just about to get married and that is a bull-leaping ceremony so you line up a load of cows in a row and everyone has to run and jump over the backs of four cows without falling and if you can do that then you're allowed to get married. Whoa four cows? Wow. It's not like it's not like evil, con evil jumping over four at once. Yeah. Jump over one
light slight hurdles. Oh it's hurdles. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well I think I'd like to see James jump over four at once. I'm really becoming focused on James doing his stunt. I'm actually very scared of cows so perfect. What else are you scared of James? Oh commitment. I'll make sure your wife doesn't listen to this episode then. When we were filming wild boys we came across a lot of ride of passages for boys to become a man and there a lot were quite entertaining. And one sent my friend Chris
Pontius to the hospital. The satari moway tribe. I hope I'm pronouncing that right in Brazil. They will go out in the jungle and gather up bullet ants which are one of the worst things in the insect kingdoms like 30 times worse than a beast thing. And they'll gather up all the bullet ants and they'll weave them into a glove of leaves with their stingers sticking out. And to become a man you have to put your hand in the glove of bullet ants for 10 minutes and take it. And Steve
O. and Pontius both did it and it was most excruciating pain that they endured. And that's a high bar for them. In fact. Yes. That's good to know because I think we might have mentioned bullet ants before and they're this extreme pain animal. And sometimes I think are they that painful or are they just kind of they've gained this reputation. But you can verify Steve O says hurts a lot. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Pontius had to go to the hospital because he had an allergic reaction.
Anytime he gets stung by anything, he has to go to the hospital. I was looking up just I was just googling around with the word stilt. And I discovered that one of the greatest early day basketball players had the nickname the stilt which was wilt the stilt chamberlain. Which I had no idea about. Yeah. So wilt chamberlain very famously scored a hundred points in a single game. He did free throws in that match underarm, which we know is a better way of doing three throws.
But we also know that basketball players think they look too wimpy when they're doing it. So they do it the overarm way instead. He also is responsible for the fact that when you take a shot at the foul line. So Anna, I know it's going to be hard to describe. But this is a thing when you're fouled, you go and you get two shots in the basket in the key. Dan, Dan, Dan, Anna has just written a book about sport. It's called a lot of old balls, the QI book of sport. It's available now in
all good bookshops. And she knows everything. Okay. So you know about this shot yourself in the foot there down if you didn't want us to mention it better better than the mouth. So where did you want it? So yeah. So he's responsible for a major rule change within basketball as well, which is the fact that when he used to shoot at the foul line, he's six foot 11. He would jump and dunk it. And that's not allowed anymore. So they said you have to remain behind the foul line.
But the still thing is really interesting in his name, Wilt the still Chamberlain. Because everyone called him it. It was the nickname that was used in every paper and magazine. And he hated it. It was given to him in the early days. And when people were on his team or playing on a opposing team, their coaches would be like, don't call him the still. He'll go nuts. He's really upset. I didn't hate it. What's wrong with the still? It's not they couldn't wilt the asshole.
He won't. Yeah, I know. He will come down. Dick House Chamberlain. Well, he could have been called that. He supposedly has another story. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently 20,000 women were bedded by Wilt the stillt. He sure they were. But he loved the name The Dipper or Dippy. And he got it because as I said, he was ginormous six foot 11. And it's got nothing to do with basketball. It was one day he kept walking into doorways because he's so tall. And one
doorway cracked him in the eyes. He got a black eye. And they started calling him Dippy because they needed to remind him to dip down anytime he was heading out of doorway. And that's the name he loved. But he was Wilt the stillt to the end. Well, I have to say Wilt the stillt's a little snappier. Yeah. Yeah. It is. And cooler. And you can't make your own nicknames, guys. So get over that. Yeah. Well, Big Dick James Harkin says different. It's like a walking stick full of bagels.
Um, I think the tallest still walk in history certainly claims to be speaking of people who make their own nicknames. They're called Roy Maloy. Which is the nickname in Roy Maloy? Yeah. I think it's not even a good one. I just think he wasn't born Roy Maloy. I think that might be a nickname, you know, to make his name rhyme. Maybe it doesn't even qualify as a nickname. All right. He's like a nom de plume. A nom de plume. Exactly. Thank you. So he's set a bunch of
world records, four world records. And in 2008, he set the unverified world record for the tallest stills walk ever. But I was looking up again, I and I keep making wild claims, but I think we can break this one too. Um, Johnny, you could definitely do this. Sure, do you've done something similar to this? Cause it was 17 meter high stills, which is high. That's like five stories. Yeah. There you go. Um, there you go for the eggs. Um, and he had to mount them by going up the fifth
story of a building and lean the stills next to the building. And then he mounts them from there. Wow. But then it's a little bit like if you're teaching a baby to walk, he's got his helpers. You could just see their hands in the video and he's clinging onto their hands. And then he just let's go for a second. Does a really quick, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, one, two, three, four, five on the spot on the stills and then falls back into their arms again. And so that's the
tallest still walking history. I don't think that counts. I don't think it counts either. I think you've got to get from A to B and they need different places. Yeah. That they hand him his penis after you're now a man. 17 meter penis. Have you never walked on the stills, Johnny? It seems like the kind of thing that Jack has would have done some kind of still walking stunts. I can barely walk on my own two feet, which really helped me in stunts. But Steve O was a clown
when we initially hired him. He worked at a carnival, a circus inside of a swap meat in Florida. It was bleak. So he did a lot of stunt walking and we did one or two things with stills, but they're nice to look at. But you need a little blunt force trauma to make something watchable. Sure. Well, you can still look into a wall if you want. Yeah. But yeah. Do you know,
something interesting. I haven't actually got the research on this. I just, this is something I remember is that with still walking, there was a person who had cerebral palsy and found that their walking was better when they were on stills. It helped to improve them in some respects with their gates and how they're walking. And Michael J. Fox also talks about that when he goes ice skating,
it really causes the tremors that he has to sort of mellow down and rest a bit. Interesting. I wonder the medical benefits of I'm not suggesting that everyone be just ice skating on stills. Ice skating on stills. I love it. That's how you get the blunt trauma. That's yeah. Yeah. I'm harken stunt. There we go. Yeah. Hello, my name is James Harken and this is ice skating on stills. And there. And there.
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