In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Eva James, urban designer and founder of Bureau James, and Elise Moeskops, member of the Amsterdam City Council. Together, they explore how gender shapes our experience of the city and how most urban spaces are still designed with the male perspective as default. From teenage girls who avoid parks, to building regulations that overlook the needs of women, the gender data gap runs deep. But by designing with inclusion in mind, we c...
Sep 10, 2025•51 min•Season 4Ep. 5
In this episode of No Stone Unturned , Charlotte de Mos talks with Cees van der Spek, Public Affairs & Global Corporate Relations Director at EDGE. Together, they explore the social value of real estate: how buildings can be more than square meters or financial returns, they can become the beating heart of a community. From symphony orchestras rehearsing in empty office spaces to restaurants and parks that bring residents and employees together, small gestures can make a big impact. But soci...
Aug 27, 2025•52 min•Season 4Ep. 4
Digital Twins in real estate: from data to decisions - with Julian Rimmer (Moser Associates) & Jozien van der Wal (Schiphol Area Development Company) No longer just a futuristic concept, Digital Twins have become a practical, data-driven tool transforming the way we design, manage, and invest in real estate. In this episode of No Stone Unturned, host Charlotte de Mos sits down with Julian Rimmer (Director of Digital Practice at Moser Associates) and Jozien van der Wal (Program Manager Digita...
Aug 13, 2025•49 min•Season 4Ep. 3
In a time of grid congestion, energy is no longer just a utility issue - it’s a real estate challenge. In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Kees Noorman (Director at ORAM) and Sanne Castro (Advisory Manager at Joulz) explore how property owners and businesses can take charge of their own energy supply and why self-sufficient real estate may soon become a necessity. With limited access to the national grid, new business connections are being denied across the Netherlands. But by embracing smart ...
Jul 30, 2025•32 min•Season 4Ep. 2
In challenging times, food security is no longer just an agricultural issue—it’s also a real estate challenge. In this episode of No Stone Unturned , Charlotte de Mos talks with Christian Heerings (Property Manager at Hines and Park Manager of Fresh Park Venlo) and Wouter van ‘t Grunewold (Market Intelligence Analyst at Savills) about how the property sector is helping secure a resilient food supply chain. Fresh Park Venlo, one of Europe’s largest agri-food hubs, illustrates why food-related rea...
Jul 16, 2025•42 min•Season 4Ep. 1
Real estate is evolving at a remarkable pace. If you’re not looking ahead, you risk falling behind. Are you ready for the transitions that will define your returns, strategy and impact on society? No Stone Unturned – the Savills podcast – is back with a brand new season. From Wednesday 16 July, join leading experts as we unpack the key trends shaping the future of real estate. In five episodes, we explore: The role of real estate in securing our food supply Grid congestion and how it affects ten...
Jul 09, 2025•49 sec
A big change is coming when it comes to energy labels. It will have a major impact on the real estate market in the Netherlands, especially on the office market. While an energy level C label is still currently sufficient to comply with legislation, in a few years that same building would receive a much lower label. Under EU rules, energy labels are changing. 'The biggest change is that A+ to A++++ will disappear,' says ESG consultant Bart Oosterhuis of Savills in this episode of No Stone Unturn...
Apr 26, 2023•25 min•Season 3Ep. 8
What does the ideal office look like? Many real estate investors and operators are looking for the answer to that question, and like to stick to the perfect office once they've found it. However, it's important to remain flexible, argues Raquel Machado (Senior Associate at M Moser) in the new episode of 'No Stone Unturned'. Don't "over-design," but involve people and keep room for development.
Apr 19, 2023•29 min•Season 3Ep. 7
It is an ambitious plan by Minister De Jonge of the Dutch Housing ministry: 900,000 homes must be built in the Netherlands by 2030. Almost a third of these, 290,000, should be suitable for senior citizens. However, discussions often focus on the smaller number of homes that need to be built for the mid-rent level segment. In this new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, Wim Wensing (Chief Investment Officer at Amvest) argues it's time to pay more attention to those senior homes....
Apr 12, 2023•26 min•Season 3Ep. 6
The development of Artificial Intelligence, or AI, will turn the world upside down in the coming years. AI will also bring change to the real estate sector. This makes it possible to design the ideal building, thanks to the millions of variants that AI can create. This is according to Herman Kienhuis, co-founder of Curiosity Venture Capital, an investor in tech start-ups. In the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned' he says: “You can create millions of variants when you design a new buildin...
Apr 05, 2023•33 min•Season 3Ep. 5
Existing buildings are becoming more attractive than new builds in the Dutch logistics & industrial sector. An existing building already has a zoning plan, power supply and nitrogen rights, says Martien van Deursen, Head of Benelux at Arrow Capital Partners in the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned'. He believes that the development of new projects is increasingly complicated due to a number of challenges.
Mar 29, 2023•21 min•Season 3Ep. 4
The office market is changing rapidly, and one of those changes is the rise of flexible offices in the Netherlands. In this new episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Robert Sparreboom, Head of Customer Excellence at office investor NSI, argues that 'office as a service' will become the new normal. However, he believes that investors still overestimate the risk of flexible offices.
Mar 22, 2023•23 min•Season 3Ep. 3
Sustainability is becoming increasingly important in the choices consumers make. In this episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Luc Boschmans, Managing Director Hospitality at Tristan Capital Partners, argues that although ESG is not yet the most important criterion when selecting a hotel, it will definitely change: “Sustainability needs to be our focus in order to be prepared.”
Mar 15, 2023•25 min•Season 3Ep. 2
Gone are the days when an investor could buy a shopping centre and only took care of new tenants and maintenance. In the new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, consultant Rupert Parker Brady argues that the owners of malls need to be much more involved: "Actually, they are the conductor of a symphony orchestra."
Mar 08, 2023•32 min•Season 3Ep. 1
What are the advantages of taking things just a little bit further than you need to? In this last and extra long episode presenter Charlotte de Mos talks to transformation expert Charlotte Extercatte, who is the initiator of the platform 100 Months to change. She helps companies go ‘beyond compliance’, and to take the necessary steps on the road to a more sustainable future. This is not only for the good of the planet, but those leading the way can also make money out of it.
Jul 13, 2022•45 min•Season 2Ep. 8
A lot of companies talk about ESG and sustainability, but really doing something about it is a different story as things become difficult in reality. In this podcast episode presenter Charlotte de Mos and Pauline Bottema, General Counsel & Corporate Secretary at EDGE Technologies, discuss how companies need to really practice what they preach. Pauline is of the opinion that companies have to change if they want to stay relevant in the future.
Jun 29, 2022•32 min•Season 2Ep. 7
Investors can make a real impact when they don’t go for the quick win. Hilke Nijmeijer, portfolio manager at CBRE, talks to presenter Charlotte de Mos about the investments CBRE Investment Management makes. She wants people to live in a home for which they pay an affordable rent, and to make houses energy efficient. This has a real impact on society, and will be even more profitable in the long-run.
Jun 15, 2022•23 min•Season 2Ep. 6
Investing in real estate is more than just investing in bricks and mortar. An active and healthy community is equally important. Nils Bonder is manager Healthy Urban Living at AM, a company that specialises in area development. He tells presenter Charlotte de Mos how you can have real social impact by building a community.
Jun 01, 2022•25 min•Season 2Ep. 5
Diversity is an important topic for companies. Every employee should feel safe and comfortable, and be able to work in a way that suits them best. That’s not just a policy, you can also take it into account when building or planning an office. Nicholas Kaspareck, who is an architect and Head of Client Engagement at Unispace, tells presenter Charlotte de Mos about homers, owners and zoners, and how to create the best office space in order to accommodate all different kinds of people.
May 18, 2022•29 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Building sustainable houses and offices is becoming more and more important. However, how can you tell if a building really is sustainable? That’s where certifications come in. In this podcast episode, presenter Charlotte de Mos talks to Peter Gabriëls about the importance, and the impact, of BREEAM on Dutch real estate. He is project manager at the Dutch Green Building Council, who issue BREEAM certificates in the Netherlands.
May 04, 2022•23 min•Season 2Ep. 3
Forget about concrete and steel, wood is the future. It is the most important material in biobased building product. NSI, the investor in offices, is planning to build the tallest wooden office tower in the Amsterdam business district, the Zuidas. Sten Karelse, Head of Development at NSI, and presenter Charlotte Harmsen discuss the advantages and the challenges of building with wood. Will biobased building products become the new standard?
Apr 20, 2022•26 min•Season 2Ep. 2
With the constant rise of e-commerce, the impact on the environment is getting bigger and bigger. Mobility, logistics hubs and energy consumption have a major impact on our lives and society. In this first episode presenter Charlotte Harmsen is joined by Tim Beckmann, CEO of Intospace, a company that helps their clients with adaptive and future proof logistic infrastructure. They’ll discuss the role commercial real estate can play in reaching ESG-goals and providing a sustainable future.
Apr 06, 2022•23 min•Season 2Ep. 1
No Stone Unturned, by Savills, guides listeners through the current ESG developments that are taking place in the Dutch real estate market. Each episode includes an inspiring, high-level expert - that will provide updates on the latest ESG trends and challenges they are currently facing. Each episode highlights a specific ESG theme, such as impact investing, diversity & inclusion, mobility and certification.
Mar 28, 2022•56 sec
De Nederlandse woningmarkt kampt met grote tekorten; en woon- en huurprijzen stijgen enorm. Hoe kijken investeerders naar deze ontwikkelingen? Loont het nog wel om actief te zijn in die markt, of wordt het rendement te klein? En hoe kunnen investeerders een deel van de oplossing voor de woningnood zijn? Daarover gaat Charlotte Harmsen in gesprek met Simon Kuijs van woningverhuurder Heimstaden.
Aug 12, 2021•22 min•Season 1Ep. 7
In deze zesde aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen’ keren we terug naar een markt die we al eerder besproken hebben, die van de kantoren. Maar nu richten we onze blik op de flexibele kantoren, want hoe ontwikkelt die markt zich? En waar liggen kansen? Samen met Boudewijn van der Sar, oprichter en eigenaar van Workspot, bespreekt Charlotte de Mos de trends en ontwikkelingen.
Aug 05, 2021•20 min•Season 1Ep. 6
In augustus begint het studentenseizoen weer en dus nemen we een kijkje in die nichemarkt, want welke kansen en mogelijkheden zijn er voor investeerders in de markt van de studentenhuisvesting? Daarover praat Charlotte Harmsen met Bas Wilberts, Head of Residential & Hotel Investment bij Savills.
Jul 29, 2021•20 min•Season 1Ep. 5
Net als in de vorige podcast hebben we het over kantoren, maar dan over kantoren door de ogen van de gebruiker. Want ontwikkelaars hebben een visie waar het naartoe gaat, maar hoe kijken bedrijven en hun medewerkers hiernaar? En willen mensen überhaupt terug naar kantoor? In deze nieuwe podcast schuift Sebastian Sawicki, Chief Happiness Officer bij New10, aan bij Charlotte Harmsen.
Jul 22, 2021•21 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Na de hotel- en logistieksector is het nu de beurt aan de kantorenmarkt. Want hoe gaat de rol van het kantoor veranderen onder invloed van corona? Blijven we thuiswerken, en gaat de leegstand daardoor oplopen? Of wordt het kantoor opnieuw uitgevonden? Daarover praat Charlotte Harmsen met Roy van Lieshout, projectdirecteur bij Dura Vermeer Vastgoed, in deze nieuwe aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen'.
Jul 15, 2021•21 min•Season 1Ep. 3
Nederland wordt steeds meer een logistieke hotspot. Tijd dus om in ‘De Onderste Steen’ te praten over deze sector, oftewel over distributiecentra. Want hoe wordt die markt beïnvloed door Brexit en corona? En waarom is juist het zuiden van ons land de absolute hotspot voor logistiek vastgoed? Te gast is Eva van der Pluijm-Kok, Director Research & Strategy bij Prologis, een aanbieder van industrieel vastgoed in de Benelux.
Jul 08, 2021•24 min•Season 1Ep. 2
in de eerste aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen’ duikt presentator Charlotte Harmsen in de hotelsector. Want is het nog wel interessant om te investeren in een sector die zwaar getroffen is door corona? Daarover gaat ze in gesprek met de bekende horeca-ondernemer en eigenaar van Hotel Arena, Paul Hermanides.
Jul 01, 2021•22 min•Season 1Ep. 1
