You're The GM!

Hello, Hey, how you doing. This is Joe Douglas of the New York Jets. Can I speak with the general manager of the Buccaneers?

Yeah? This is Jason Light A good one, good.

One, quick playing, No, I mean the current GM of the Bucks.

Yeah, Jason Light, super Bowl champion two thousand and twenty one, wearing that ring.

Now, the kids love it, they love the I'm still there. Polish it up, pose it up. I'm just kidding. I knew that, Jason. What's up?

Trader Joe here, don't hang up because I know what you're thinking. Jamal Adams for two number ones.

Nailed it.

Sam Darnold fetched three picks, including a two. Are you kidding me? I'm good at this? But that doesn't mean that you should be scared, because I have a great offer for you here on the trade deadline.

Oh yeah, not scared at all.

Been employed since twenty fourteen, been a part of a team that's actually one games more games than they've lost at various points, so that's something you haven't been able to accomplish yet.

So feeling very tough.

But you had Tom Brady and it was the COVID year, So let's kind of let's calm down a little bit, just a little bit.

So it didn't feel full. You're right, let's get to it. I expected more. Here's the thing.

I we had some scouts watching your Week seven game against the Falcons, and you know, a couple things popped out to me and I was looking at our rosters and I just wanted to throw something out. You need some veteran talent on both sides of the ball, and it's and let's be honest, Jason, let's be honest.

Can we be honest? I've always been honest.

We both know you play in a fake division, which means, you know, guys who are maybe struggling or not playing a lot in say the AFC East AKA, a real division may have far greater success in a division.

That is shall we say, fugazi. So listen to this.

Not familiar with that term, Okay, I'm speaking to be clear as the three time defending NFC South champion, right which you know, So then after you do you win that division, there's actually more games after that. I know that Jets haven't been familiar with that for a decade, But there's more, and it's they're called the playoffs.

It's an exciting part of the year.

Right we and we're seven times Little League champions, like we're we're doing well in fake divisions as well, but like yes, in the AFC East, it's a much more difficult world. And I and our scouts noticed a couple of things that we love that check Barrett. We know Mark Sessler of around the NFL does not respect him, but we do. But we do know that you also, you know, Joe Tryon Shoyinka more like Joe Trio better next time. In the first round. You're in the middle

Yards over expected rushing yards, rushing yards over expected Ah.

Yes.

One of my favorite podcasters pointed out on Wednesdays around the NFL program that is dead last in the league in that stat.

Greg Rosenthal, what a guy.

I believe it was Dan Hanss who kind of floated it out there initially, and then you and then Greg came in. But that we'll listen to it together later and decide who gets credit for that. The point being he stinks and Kaishon Vaugh's not gonna do the damn thing. And I know you have a ding to my data Chase Edmonds coming back, but come on, let's be serious. You're averaging three point zero yards per carry Todd with the Raiders for last in the league. So here's what

Deal second round pick. What do you got? Yes, we're good.

So trying to understand where you're coming from that trader, Carl Lawson. Yes, uh a few weeks ago healthy, Uh, big time free agent pickup for you guys.

Yes, a few years back, big time.

Has done so well for you. You chose not to play him multiple times this season? Even why while he was healthy?

Why? Why? Why? Apples the Oranges?

We have perhaps the deepest defensive line in the league and just a an avalanche of high end pass rushers. And again we're playing in a real league, so you have all these different things going on. He absolutely could do work against the offensive lineman of the NFC South.

Absolutely. Okay, we've we've we've settled that. I disagree mostly. Let's Dalvin Cook. I would like to read you his yards per carry this year. It is two point eight.

Uh.

If he qualified, I believe that would be dead last among all running backs. Joe, you basically chose the two least valuable players on your roster, and you called me in an extremely smug tone, despite despite having the exact same record as US and no history the SS and you're asking for a second round pick for guys that nobody else wants. I say no, I would give you.

Okay, well here here's here two things and this, well say goodbye.

Good job by you because I was gonna fleece your race because that's what trade that Joe does.

But bad job because it would have been fun to do a trade.

I'll see at the at the GM meetings and I will bring you a large fish as an apology for not knowing that you weren't fired three years ago.

Bye bye Wow.

I mean confrontational, that is, and people often wonder, like what really goes on behind the scenes in the NFL. And that's why annually you're the GM always delivers the goods and I Connie, I get it. Colleen Wolf here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, I'm Dan Hensis.

I understand that Joe might rub people the wrong way.

Well, the trader Joe thing might.

He's he's maybe perhaps branding himself. But you know he's flashy and that he's a showman, and when he's on the phone like that's oh and his element and the most people seem to be able to see him that way, right, well, basically his wife and then all the different GMS.

When he's on the phone, Yeah, he's you know, feeling.

Yeah, it's almost like the twenty three and forty nine record his team has had since he came aboard hasn't diminished that confidence.

Not at all, So not at all.

In fact, all right, let's keep going. So it'd be good to be able to listen in on a trade that gets done. So maybe Colleen, you can take us through something like that. All right, we'll see.

That's great. So should I announce who I am?

Yes? Okay, I'm glad you asked that question because I also have that question.

Right, We've done it four to five times now, but yes, go ahead, remember yesterday you are.

So like the first time every time.

Guys, the I am less sneed and I am calling Scott Fitterer the Panthers GM who will be played by Sessler.

All right, who are we talking about? Scott fitter Okay, are you listening? No?

I know who is okay, all right.

Here we go.

Hello Scott, it it's me again. Ls I get a lot of calls. Thanks for giving me your Nate less. How's it going out there on the other coast coast It.

Could be a little bit sunnier today, but listen, the beach is great, the drinks are wonderful. Malibu is amazing this time of year. I just I'm living life.

Man.

It's nice out here. But you know, for you guys, tough start.

It is a tough start. Six Yeah, it's a tough start. You know, we've got a process going on here.

I think if you're inside the building, by the way, I just took the family out over the weekend to that complex that's half built, attached to the panthers, kind of in shambles, but it's fun for the kids to run around a little bit dangerous. But no, I would say inside the building, we're very focused on our process and highly confident in what we've got going on. I'm hoping that I'll be around to continue to help a couple months from now.

That's always in question when you're a general manager.

Well, if not, you can always come on out to La The sun is shining the palm trees are out here. Everything seems a little nicer. I bet Tepper won't leave you alone. It seems like he's driving Frank crazy.

Oh I think you just got another caller.

Oh you hang on a second. All right, I gotta take this.

I don't all date, but okay, hello, Hi.

This is Trevor with the Philadelphia Phillies and we're excited to offer you an exclusive pre sale access to our twenty twenty four season ticket plan.

I am, I can't do this anymore.

I quit, thank you, gotta go all right, all right, clicking back over to Scott. Scott, sorry about that's kind of throwing me off my game. These spam calls their non stop. I don't know what to do about them anyway. Listen, I got some picks. They're burning holes in my pockets right now. You know I don't do well with first round picks. I like to sell them off. I know that they would look really nice. And you're rebuild, so we still want Brian Burns and he's a year older at this point.

Yeah.

I don't love that he's in a contract year, but you know, we'll deal with that. So what do you say?

I fly you and the and the fam out here to Los Angeles, and you know we spend a little time, get some dinner at Nobu, nice bottle of CLASSA zool, and work out these terms solve the world's problems before I.

Fly out with the family. What give me a ballpark term here? Like you know, I'm very busy. It's gotta be worth my time. We value Brian Burns immensely around here, as you can tell.

What do you say about me giving you back what you gave up for your Bryce Young?

All right?

Like everybody wins and listen, I don't have all day either. These waves aren't gonna surf themselves.

I'm intrigued to the Scott Fitter experience. Even if I were to talk about myself has been slightly wanting.

It's a little bit all over the place.

If I were to turn down this deal two years in a row, I think I have a tough time explaining that to.

My owner.

We'll give you a twenty twenty four first rounder and a twenty twenty five second rounder.

Deal flam me out there, woo and a dinner at Nobu. This guy gets it. Sounds like Scott Fitter is just hungry. He's like free dinner.

Wow.

Also a good sell by would do that deal.

I wonder if Scott was like, wow, I bet all the buildings are finished over there like that. Yeah, so you get to see just a landscape, a complete landscape and yeah, dinner by.

The sea each front property.

I mean, Less wasn't messing around.

He started with a first in a second and then fit old like easy negotiator, Fitter. It's it's like I got to get off the phone. I'll I'll take that. I thought I was going to lose the call. You know, a first and a second round pick for Brian Burns. I think I would take that too.

Second. The Rams famously all for first last year.

So in a way, like you know the I guess both sides come out looking okay because the Rams get their guy and uh and Fitterer, uh, you know, gets a first round pick back.

But uh, you know, I don't know. I feel like you might be getting your walking papers for that one. GM fitter.

I felt the call vanished, I think, but I think the Panthers would would take that and run with it.

Also, tough to get reservations at NOBU right, and that was probably a motivating factors absolutely.

The Rams did so well in the draft though this year, although none of them, I guess were first round picks. So maybe it's your that you know, he's I think they want to start rebuilding with some of these guys.

All right, let's keep moving here, Greg Rosehal You're up next. Okay, if you're just tuning in here, the GM is back for another Zany adventure in twenty twenty.

All right, I'm gonna be uh, Mike McDaniel, Colleen Sean McVay played by Mark Sessler.

Hey, it's Shawn's house. Whoa weird. Hey, Hey Guyle, it's Mike again. Really good to talk again this week. Yeah, how you doing there, Mike? How's it going.

I really enjoy our calls. I just really value our relationship, you know. It's yeah, I just kind of talk about Kyle, and you know, I so complicated. I just like appre I appreciate everything that he's done for me over the years. Uh, you know, even when those times were dark, you were with me there, you know, and UH just have mixed feelings about that that season when he cheined me to my desk, I.

Mean didn't let me interview with anyone, Mike. I I appreciate that we have a shared friendship with Kyle. Literally a week ago at this time, I can see almost what your schedule is down there in Miami because literally we could go at this time. You called me with the same essentially the same spin on you and Kyle thing.

Yeah, but you know we have such shared history, Sean.

We were there and in Washington and we were we were going uh, we were going out for dinners and you know old Uh what was that guy's name, Lafleur was it?

And it's a rich time.

You know.

The media really gets on me here for being, you know, really long winded and slow talking with my answer, but it just feels good because like it's just so so complicated.

This thing with with Kyle trying to get out of his shadow, and I just feel.

Like, only you really understand what can I do for you would be at this point my question, because this is the ninth or tenth time in nine or ten weeks that we've had this very long I'm very busy.

I do agree know it.

I know you're going to be a father too, and I really do think fatherhood has really sort of helped me put those years in perspective.

Of those forty nine ers years, no doubt. I mean it really sounds like you have it in perspective. I want your best player. I want Aaron Donald. I want him, I want him, I want him. I want him.

Twenty twenty six first round pick. You can actually paid pade three three years out.

You guys are rebuilding. He's canting, No, we're not. You guys have done great.

It was a strange end around to try to get Aaron Donald out of our.

Twenty twenty six first round pick, twenty twenty four third round pick, like one of those raise you know, the like the raizors where you can do the different settings, you know, like two point five p two point zero.

You just look like you could, like what you do with Mike, Mike, Mike there. We're not. Aaron Donald's not for sale.

I think we made that clear in the middle of a rebuild that there was no asking price. I think you've got these issues with Al Shanahan. Maybe you can dial him up.

Aaron Donald is is thirty two years old, Okay, Yeah, a lot of you owe him a lot of money. You are.

Old.

You're the old news. You and Kyle are old news. I'm I'm the new guy. You give me your old guy, help the new guy, and we win. Now, you're not winning anything. Now, when Aaron Donald is thirty four years old, you will not be winning anything than.

Either you give me.

How about a twenty twenty five first round pick, I give you, not twenty six and a twenty twenty four.

No, this is going nowhere.

I you know, I am at absolutely linked with less need on the idea that Aaron Donald's going. I think you should call up Kyle, work through all this other residual stuff. Ask about Bosa, someone of that caliber, like you can tell him how old he is and see how far works.

They're good. They're still good. Now you're not good.

Now you're not. Really I really need to go twenty twenty four first round pick, twenty twenty four second round pick, twenty twenty five third round pick next week.

This time, I think, is it just me? Did this my McDaniel?

Did you just want to fire him into the sun, throw him through the atmosphere until he hit the sun?

Oh my god, this character the different.

It's different behind the scenes.

It's just literally just one click off Greg, like McDaniel, you just slid into that character.

It was It was incredible, seamless, many clicks.

I do love the idea of McDaniel calling Sean McVay about Kyle Shanahan every week.

Also, I don't know what it is, but I kind of can see Aaron Donald, just like so many veterans in the past, high ticket, big ticket veterans end up in Miami because they like want to play.

I can actually totally see the Rams trading Aaron Donald if they lose this game for like multiple if someone came and offered them like two first round picks for Aaron Donald at this point, I think that would make sense for both sides.

Los Angeles to Miami, Yes.

Where Miami? All right? Mark, you're up? All right?

I am John Harbaugh calling Giants head coach Brian Dable, who would be played by Dan.

Yeah, the Fable they call Dabel. How can I help you? Boy? John Harbaugh?

Here, Johnny oh Man, things are going better.

You know, we're getting some things straightened out.

Here. Was a really tough start to the year. But you know, as you know, John, you got a ring. Not how you start, it's how you finish. And I'm feeling good, feel good about the g man.

We you know, we're our advanced scouting has been going crazy because we see we're so proud of what we're accomplishing here and the performance against the Bills. I think you could just point to that as like that's the old Dable coming back out there.

Thank you very much. I appreciate that. John. How can I help you? Yeah, no, I'm calling on to help you.

Actually, I there are some lingering issues with the way this offseason when I thought for the New York Giants, and you tell me I'm not trying to be critical.

Well, you know, I don't handle the personnel, so you could be candidly because we could just Barry Shane.

I don't care, Yeah, Shane, No, And I don't need I don't need, you know, Eric DeCosta, this is between com so it's like, yeah, you know.

You get it, you get it. I've been reading this. Did you get you hear the latest? This guy gets it with Mark Sessler. You're listening around the NFL. I wait for my day off to listen to that. Yeah, just like I had been hearing Trench. Yeah, and only like a minute and a half long to it's fixed into my schedule. He has a a a carnal energy, and I can't like think of who it is. Oh, you know it is.

It's the Canadian broadcaster and sixty minutes legend morally safer.

That's why I kept that's that parallel. Just curious if you get that as well. I don't know.

It's like an ex Browns fan or Browns fan of some sort. And so he's like going around bars, like he finds a young Ravens fan and said quick about the stupid history that.

They were unbelievable. I mean, everyone should check out. This guy gets it, including you. When you have a couple of minutes to yourself.

I will I've been reading.

I've been I'll tell you what I've been doing my free time is like digging into old now like national geographic magazines.

You know, like when you're a coach see the news. Yeah, well done it. I've done it. That's not my residual like benefit, not my shining moment. But you gotta do what you got to do when your kid.

You're right, I but listen to this. Listen to this, do you know? Like so when like the Nina the pent in the Santa Maria arrived back in match, yeah, big time. Five hundred and thirty one years ago on the east coast of the country. Now were Baltimore. Well, no, who knows what they were looking for. But actually the Native Americans, according to records, some records, could not see them the ships because they couldn't conceive that those types

Interesting, I'm in, I'm interested, Go ahead. Ships are different.

We're a ship right now that just in the last Fortnite has really figured out what we are, who we are.

And I'm just telling battleship right now, we really are.

I saw that game and you'll get there too, but you need to be cognizant of who's coming with you on that ship. The Giants are a different ship. And I frankly don't like what happened with the whole Saquon Barkley thing.

Is it made you look like you were in the crosshairs and a bit clumsy.

And I know the Brian table that I know who was calling that game back when the Browns ex Tom Brady's Patriots back in twenty ten. I'd already been in Baltimore a couple of years. I knew you back then, and I know all the time, I think a lot of people do. I would just say this, It is so important that you have a realistic vision about where you are. And I think Saquon Barkley is not part

I'm going to cut right to it.

I mean, he's not under contract after this season, but I think the way that the Ravens work is we'd we'd make sure that we'd have an interest of him sticking around for a long time, and in reverse, you get something for it versus nothing. You get a twenty twenty four second round pick. I'd give you a twenty twenty five fourth I'm throwing Gils Edwards promising young runner.

Well, John, I you know, I respect the hell out of you, and that.

The three ships put the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria. Yeah, I mean I mean that I don't really know where you're going with that exactly, but it was cool. It was just fun to like think about those ships and they're how they affected North America and the world. I gotta say, like, I know you understand the business of the sport, but I'm pretty sure and I could check with Joe on this. I got a compensatory pick if Saquon leaves in free agency.

Joe, is that right? Why are you always asking this? Of course it's right.

Yeah, And I think it could be as high as like a third rounder. I believe, and it just may It just begs the question if I if I'm getting a third losing them at the end of the year, and I believe this team is turning it around, why would I get rid of my best player to move up one round. And it's not even a truly premium pick. You're gonna have to do better than that, John, And yeah, I love it.

It's a twenty twenty five third, Brian, life is short this way, you move up a year, all right, Joe, that you'd be getting a twenty twenty fourth, I'll give you a twenty twenty fourth fourth.

Two.

I'll change. I'll switch out the twenty twenty five aspect of that, so you get a second and a fourth and Gus Edwards. The reason I'm doing this, and I understand that the Ravens were ahead of the compensentory market with Ozzie Knws some long before other teams, so we're well versed.

The difference is we want. That's why I felt almost disrespectful.

Well, you know, I thought that you assumed where this culture is. We want Saquon Barkley today. They're in our building today. That's why this is.

Let's let's make a deal here. I want to I want a second this year and a third next year. And I don't need Gus Edwards.

I got.

I got Matt Brida's he's a great locker room guy.

Our vision is to win the Super Bowl this year. We'll do it, all right, Thanks great doing business with the USC.

At the end same meetings, Wow, oh my goodness, the barkleader to the Ravens at the deadline for a two and a three.

Mm, and I think they quickly signed them to a contract extent the Giants.

Eventually they essentially get that compensatory pick that they would have gotten any way, but they also get the two for the immediate help.

I feel like that's a fair trade. What do you think?

I know?

I think the Giants would do well. That would be like it'd be like a late second. Would they do a second and a third for Saque right now?

I think they would.

They keep It's a different second round pick than if it's we're talking to the Big three.

They keep saying that and those compensatory picks. First of all, it's another year out and it's you know, the end the third round, so it's quite different than like a second round pick a year from now.

Uh, the Giants are weird. I don't think they.

Mike g pointed out earlier this week on our episode, like they can't decide what they're doing with Sequon Barkley. They don't want to give him the fair market rate, and yet they don't want to lose him.

Internally, Someone's gonna have to to win whatever potential struggle there is, and maybe it takes a third party like the Ravens in the end. Okay, uh, to push things along. Let's take a break and then we will continue onward. All right, HM, let's see, I will be uh Bill Belichick, and I will be calling.

Mossy Austen fort m of the Cardinals. I knew he was going to come up with something.

What was that?

What was that you said? Uh? For Monty? Who is Monty the GM of the Cardinals?

Ye?

No, I know who's playing? Who's the thought? But no, you went when I said Bill Belichick? Was that was like I was getting ready? I don't know? All right, Colleen is a monte Austin for it? Okay? Did that? I? Hey, prouse it? MASSI anti asin for it? Manty, Monty anti Ausin for it? All right? All right, here we go.

Full Monty here?

Hey, it's Bill? What's up?

Oh you again?

What what do you want? You see the game on Sunday?

I saw it.

I didn't like it. Pretty impressive offense. I'm in getting back on track.

Congratulations. You want a game.

About the Bills? You know it's a big time Bills are a big time bone it and we shocked them.

You did?

You did it again?

Bill? How about that matter?

Are you just calling to get some love for this?

I'm just saying, how about that Mac Jones?

He is?

He really did turn it on? There?

I thought you didn't like Mac.

I love Mac. You see Mac on Sunday? You love him?

Now?

I always loved them, But you know, times change, and I'm feeling a lot of pressure internally from my boss's kind of I don't know.

You know who my boss is, mister Kraft.

Yeah, Robert, he's I feel like he's putting some heat on me.

How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel uncomfortable. I've never been uncomfortable before in this building, and I think it's time to do something about it.

Well, I mean, you call the right person. I'm always uncomfortable in this building.

I have a trade. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. I gotta get on the internet, Jonathan, Please?

How many times am I gonna tell you you must get off the phone when I'm having these.

Important You got to get on the internet. No, this is, this is.

We brought in a fax machine for you. You said that you needed it.

I don't know what for.

That's all we can do for you. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Bill.

Are you still there?

Yeah?

What was it?

It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. What do you want?

Are you on AOL? What's your screen name?

Malibu four twenty.

Mine's five rings? Didn't need to update it, but stopped using it? Why I used email?

Now?

All right, let's get to it.

Mac Jones playing great about mac Jones going to Arizona, and I'm going to tell you why it makes.

Sense in a second.

I would love to hear why that makes sense.

Because you're tanking right like, be honest with me.

We're not doing great but over here.

But you're trying actively not to do great right.

Well, looking ahead to next season for sure?

All right, I want to offer you mccorkel okay.

I want to offer you Mac Lamore, the Seattle Rapper. I want to offer you Big Mac, the discrece.

I'm very busy.

I want to offer you an actual big Mac.

I gotta I gotta go find where Jonathan Gannett is now.

I want to offer you a first round pick. How about that for you? And I also a third round pick.

I'll take a big Mac over Mac Jones, and.

You're gonna give me the quarterback of your past but not your future, Kyler Murray. And you'll have a really high draft pick this year, obviously because Mac Jones will help sink the rest of your season or Josh or you know that defense.

And then you'll also have the first round pack that I'm going to send you. And guess what, I won't.

Play Kyler this year. So the Patriots will tank and you'll get a very high pick from New England as well.

Hm hmm.

You'll pick probably two picks in the top five, and that will celerate your rebuild. And I get the quarterback to save my Patriots career and break that evil Don Schule's record.

I'm intrigued.

I was going to say no, I was going to hang up the phone, but we don't have a whole lot going on here.

Actually, and Kyler moving Kyler probably not a bad idea.

I promise a full tank on this end as well.

You have my word written in blood. I'm gonna need blood, brothers here.

If you need it in blood, I will give you my blood, all right.

Make sure you send a little can of your blood over and then we'll make this official.

All right, a little bit weird, but okay.

That's how we do business here.

Okay, I'll get an intern on that, all right? Nice? WHOA? How about that?

Strange?

That's a monster deal you get. I wonder if the Patriots have been sniffing around a big transaction in these past a couple of weeks.

Now, let's talk about how realistic it is that Kyler gets moved. It doesn't seem impossible, right if they've internally decided there they're rebooting, and if they could fetch another first rounder, and Bill like he desperately needs an actual difference maker at quarterback and he gets it, that buys him another year.

It makes sense, it does.

But also the Cardinals have affected his trade value with the whole thing that they put in his contract with him not being like.

The price here first round pick, it's Mac Jones, a first and a third.

How is Kyler Murray going to get along with Bill Belichick those personalities?

I think it can work. You hear Bill Belichick with a lot of different persons. I think that's exactly what Kyler needs. Honestly, it's interesting. It is strange.

It also has like a match in terms of their relationships that you could see happening.

That's how a lot of these happens.

It's strange there the fifteen years Monty spent working for Bill Belichick didn't come up at all on the call, but I could see like the relationship or the fact that Monty Austin Fort was the temporary host of sports show Sunday Mornings on k u M M eighty nine point seven.

The U ninety alternative at one point.

That's in the past.

That's old career.

There were living in the here and the now.

Interesting.

Wow, that's a good one.

You're up.

Okay, So I am Pete Carroll and I'm calling Greg as Joe Shane because we're just going to keep in character from earlier.

Oh oh wow. Yeah, what was the Joe Shane? Joe Shane. I was very close to your regular voice?

Is that?

Yeah, let's go.

Okay, here we go.

It's Joe Joe, It's Pete C. And Seattle. How are we doing today?

Good?

Great, that's wonderful.

I don't have a lot of time here before John Schneider gets back from his coffee roasting studio up in Freemont.

But this is important, Joe.

So I need you to listen, Okay, love it all right. I want you to close your eyes for a second, take a deep breath. Want you to imagine yourself on draft day. My favorite this rookie class. It's got some dogs in it, the type of talent that the New York Giants Foundation was built on. And now there you are with some extra cloud on draft day, some picks to play with. I like this, keep talking the only thing you gotta do.

What am I wearing?

Pleats, khaki pleated pants and a button down generic shirt. Yes it's blue, it's a blue shirt. Only thing you gotta do, though, is send us Leonard Williams. Listen to and four. It ain't cutting it in the NFC East, Julie Love told us all about ninety nine.

We know about him, the good and the bad. Listen your guy.

He's been injured, his production has dropped over the past two years.

Do you really need him? We could take them off your hands.

Send you a fifth that can turn into a fourth depending on how many steps he plays.

I mean, what was the bad here? I was all excited about the pleats and the with that button down.

But I got a gum guy calling me in five, So I.

Mean, that's not even what's the point? That's your point, that's spare change. Joe Shane loses that getting onto the subway every morning.

We'll give you a fourth that could turn into a third.

This is a starting defensive tackle that we've given a massive contract to.

I'll do it for us. A third that would turn into a second. No less.

The only reason I'm considering his age, he is going to be a free agent, and I don't believe in Daniel Jones.

But no one, no one knows that it's the Mars.

We won't go higher than a third.

I won't do it.

Gum, guys call and gotta go.

Oh.

You know, Pete is like edging into his mid seventies, and you know, I think maybe he misread Williams's market.

I mean, he's a big time players.

Though he's a good player, I do think he would be very tradable. But to Dan's or whoever it was on the phone earlier, that's where the compensatory pick. The compensatory pick comes into Joe Shane's mind was Brian Dable. Yes, it was my buddy Brian.

It was me actually that knew they pick confusing.

That That's where you know, is it really worth a third? When I'm going to get a Leonard Williams would absolutely net you up.

Well, this is why Pete Carroll's out a GM.

It's like, you're so serious minded, but you've also just let all Giants fans know that if you're Joe Saye, all we really need to do is dress you up in imagination and strange clothing.

There was a little bit of a is this exciting? That's a little bit I think slipped into that comment.

It's very imagine and.

He's just excited to see Tyrod back there, the quarterback he brought from Buffalo.

He loves. What a moment. Full circle. All right, Uh, let's go to Greg. Okay, I'm pivoting here. Let's do Mark. Mike Rabel.

You're I I've always been Mike Rabel, and I'm gonna be calling uh Sean McDermott in Buffalo played by Dan Hands.

Okay, wait before you do, why have you What do you mean like as like internally as a human like me and him are like symbiotic. Yeah, I got that. Hello, damn it to me, Mike. Uh wait is this Sean? It's Sean? Who is it? Oh? My god? Is Mike Mike? Who's this is Mike? This is Mike Rabel. Oh what's up? Rabes.

I'm sorry, man, I'm just going through some things right now. This has not been what I expected the season to be. You know, I'm feeling a little bit heat, to be honest with you, because very important year for uh my organization, and I'm now calling the plays I don't really know they're gonna start looking at me if I don't figure out something here.

So it's it's good that you called me because I was actually thinking about you too. You're four and three, Sean. How many years have you been in the NFL? Snap out of it? I know, I know, man, I know, I know.

It's just you know you've been watching what's been going on up here. Grow a pair, all right, Stop bullying me. I'm flying high.

I just was nominated to Patriots Hall of Fame because I know the season isn't won or lost by week seven.

I'm in it to win it. I'm in it for the long. Let's be honest.

Well, we are looking towards the future in some ways, and that's why I called you with a chance to potentially upgrade your team.

You caught You caught me at a good time here because I've been on quite a bender, uh since Sunday.

You have a TNF Thursday Night game this week, Sean, I'm worried about you.

Wait what news flash?

I uh no, I was planning to call the Ravens with a similar offer, and uh, I hear they got Saquon Barkley that hasn't been released yet. So this trade no longer made any sense going to Baltimore. But I have a guy that you've struggled to stop over the years that your little zone defense.

I already told you, I'm in a bad mood and you're bringing up bad memories.

And h oh, like we're going to stop the h So you guys can run the ball. Hey, sometimes you got to run the ball. Sometimes it is nineteen eighty four, and you gotta be tough. And I got the toughest running back that you've ever seen, Derrick Henry, and I think his.

Time with Tennessee. We love him. He's still a great player, but I think it's coming to an end. We love this kid.

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Derrick Henry comes in, gives you a little ying.

To you.

James Cook Yang, I though a pretty nice job for us. I like Latavious what he brings. Oh, Latavious Murray. How many teams has he been on in the last six years? He's like, I used trash Canyon.

Oh's Mike, he got a little rough around the edges. I gotta be honest with you, and I haven't really ever confronted you on it, but it's time to have a conversation. Everyone's talking about it that you're kind.

Of a dick.

He got me this far. You don't question what gets you to success. I've been to the playoffs, I've made it far. I've been a champion with the Super Bowl Patriots.

All right, well, yeah he's a player. But okay, so I like Derrick Henry. Obviously he's going to the Hall of Fame. And yes, I'm in a bit of a minor, low key panic about the state of my team. I didn't even know we had a game on Thursday, so that kind of tells you where I'm at.

Second round pick for Derrick Henry. Second round pick.

All right, I'm going to how much money is owed to Derek because I have to check with my cap people. We recently hired Jennifer Garner's character from Draft Day as our capologist, and I need to connect with her.

He is in the final year of a contract. He's got voids coming up the last two years. This is a rental. But I've already spoken with him. He loves the whole scene in Buffalo, what you guys are building. Uh, he wants to be part of a winner, and you for a two second round pick the thunder and the Lightning, Lendo White and Chris Johnson. Except he's way better than Lendo White, but he would be that. I think he's the big you know that's it's usually.

Like the fast guy and the and the drink again No, never, all right?

How about a conditional three? Uh that becomes a two if we get to the super Bowl.

I'll give you either a twenty twenty five to two or a conditional three that becomes a two if Dereck Henry scores.

Wait, no, you could control him any touchdowns he gets.

How about if you make the conference championship super Bowl is a little rich for my blood?

All right, deal, we'll do that, and uh tell Derek we're excited to have him. I can't wait to tell. Are you all right?

Mike? Because I know I'm having my own issues, like just dealing with some depression issues.

But you seem a little bit off the handle right now.

These checks are cash and either way guaranteed contract for coaches.

Let's go baby, all right? Mike Soe Wow, all right, another, I think that is a sensible trade. Yeah, let's bring in Eric Roberts, the Bills fan behind the glass. He's wearing a Bills cap.

You.

I would imagine if I'm a Bills fan, I'd be pumped if if that comes down from rap sheet definitely next week. Oh, I'd be ecstatic.

But if you heard the entire recorded conversation, Yeah, then how would you feel?

How do you feel about the fueld I I feel like I just did and it was very entertaining. So all right, well, I feel like a.

Little bit concerned this trade. Last year when we did really I think it was Derek Henry to the Bills.

Yeah, there was definitely an episode where we floated something and maybe futile.

Yeah, I really talked about it.

I remember Clay Bund was on the show and he was talking about the idea of a guy staying with the team, which for his whole career, Which would be cool if Henry's and he sets all the records for Tennessee and they give him a statue, would be cool, But this would also be his probably and let's face, Tennessee's in a different place now, his last chance to get a ring I think it all makes sense.

I like when that Byered trade happened, I thought I thought Henry Ravens or maybe like Henry Bill's or Henry Dolphins.

Henry Ravens makes a lot of sense. Bills, they already got squ They just freed up some cap space too.

I think they like transferred to Dion Dawkins, to some signing bonus stuff.

They can move more something. I think there's something ruined. I think it's more likely a receiver for them, but Henry.

I like when McDermott asked Rabel, have you been drinking? And Rabel says never in im men's lie from everything that we know. All right, close it out, Mark, all right, this is Saints Mickey Loomis. I mean we'll get to Let's start calling up Vikings general manager Quesiodofo Mensa, who would be played by Colleen.

Sorry to pull you back into the fray, Colleen. We're almost at the finish land there.

So close, so close, there's always next. Hello, it's Mickey, Mickey. How you doing today?

Having a great day. I feel this intense passion for the Pelicans. I'm down here at the Smoothie King Center. We're very exciting. It's a great place. It's a great place when I'm not working on the Pelicans. You know, I think people say, okay, any multi test, I am all. I have been deeply involved with a personal project.

You're the king of multitest.

I can do it all.

And I have a book coming out. The published date will be it sounds like March twenty twenty four. It is in a fascinating topic. Mickey is so able to grasp these topics.

And I'd run free sale version.

I'll send it to you. It is. I think it would be good for children too.

It takes a look at nursery rhymes that we grew up thinking that they were meant one thing.

This is what I want. I was thinking, how I have a void in my life with.

And this is it.

I let me give you just a couple examples of what I've been working on. And you know, well there's a football aspect of this too that we'll get too many get to it.

Sure, so you've heard this one before.

I bet Georgie Porgie putting in pie kissed the girls and made them cry. We know that part happened when the girls came out to play. Georgie Porgie ran away.

He ran away, right, you're.

Thinking it's a boy running across a meadow.

This is the kind of thing I'm going to uncover this book that it's actually Georgie Porgie is believed to be George Villers, the first Duke of Buckingham, lover to both King James the First and Anne of Austria, the consort of France, who was also married to French King Louis the thirteenth. So we thought it was a story about a boy running around sticking his finger in a mincemeat pie British.

But we can't be sure.

Now a royalty story.

I'm gonna give you one other pies that's yeah.

Well, I don't know who those other people on the line are, but welcome to the company.

There. Let's see, I have this one. How about this? There's so many good ones.

Okay, Georgie Porgie. I get that that's relatable to me. It's perfect.

This one will relate to other people. Peter, Peter pumpkin eater had a wife and couldn't keep her. He put her in a pumpkin shell, and there he kept her very well. Sounds quaint, sounds like a problem. Research suggests that it is a problem. I spoke to North University of North Texas English professor Justin Jones, who told me this. The gist of this nursery rhyme is that Peter Peter has an over is an overbearing individual who needs to find a way to control the appetites of his wife.

Well, that's tragic.

This is for children, This is for adults to read. This is for you to read.

Anyways, I got a lot going on here. I want I have more to read, but I feel like this segment is dive bombing. So I'm gonna actually get to my point.

Well, maybe what what can I do for you today?

We hasn't stopped us at all today? So far, we have a sore we have.

We can do one maybe mad about the wife and the pumpkins shell, but continue, Well that also was six or seven hundred years ago, so she's old news at this point.

But we both have something I think we don't want after this season.

Uh, I am gonna be honest, Well, we'd be happy to throw in Dennis Allen with what I'm about to suggest Kirk Cousins, he's on the way out. Hen he gone, He don't so like I am saying that if you want to make h hey right now, you give us Kirk Cousins and we will give you a second round pick and Derek Carr, who we don't like, so you can take. You'll have Derek Carr under contract. And I know you guys are going through a little bit of rebuild, rebuilt.

You know, Kirk Cousins, he really showed us something the other night against the Niners, And now all of a sudden things are looking up for the Vikings in the NFC, and I'm I'm ready to say goodbye to Kirk Cousins.

You know, I did his extension.

We have this relationship, so I'll take your nursery rhyme book, but I'm not taking your quarterback and I'm certainly not taking your head coach.

It's that recency bias, like he's played a couple of good games, like the overall experience.

Maybe he should have called me last week. Why didn't my phone ring?

Then?

Whether or not you take the deal, I still have my book that's coming out in March of twenty twenty four, so shove off.

Quessy Giddy likes to scratch.

Wow.

I was in the middle of reading, like what I was going to do with that. I was like, this is going no, I think it's going great. I want to hear the other nursery, the.

Other nursery rhyse.

I literally did a lot of research on this, so we've heard this one before. Mary Mary, quite contrary, how does your garden grow with silver bells and cockle shells and pretty much and pretty maids all in a row? That also sounds pretty problematic, but it is actually about Mary Tudor, who was called Bloody Mary according to the UK Chronicles. She was a very pious Catholic and this is about her, essentially destroying Protestants, Protestants, women, men, children. Yes,

No?

Not I for if I do, he's sure to cry.

This is about Cardinal Thomas Woolsey, who was an arrogant, wealthy, self made man and had many enemies in England. After obtaining his degree from Oxford at the age of fifteen, he was dubbed the boy Bachelor. The words come blow your horn likely to refer to as incessant bragging. I can almost hear Wes laughing at this.

I don't think it was great. I was just trying to just interrupt. I think, you know how it feels to me when you're doing those you're thinking.

Like this might I think it's big, it's thick, amongst the strangest moments in the history of the show.

And I think that's a good thing, and I love it. Yeah, all right, well, don't doubt yourself.

I like I was like, I'll typically just keep rolling when I can tell things are of variable nature to myself.

But it's like that was I was. I did get into it inside your process because.

There was so much more to do, and I was like this, if this is getting worse and worse, it's like real good.

I also think it's a great, you know, window into the mind of Mickey Loomis.

Yes, the accuracy A little scatterbrain, got a lot of projects. That is actually the Smoothie King Center. I don't watch a lot of NBA, but that is a real place.

Well we know that. I know I figured you would. But if you're a listener that know that we knew that part, they're good. They're good.

Uh good little program there at the Pelicans. I don't think he's working quite as much from that. Also is an insane trade because because Kirk Cousins has it.

Is way better. And that was actually he also has a trade clause. He supposedly there's a lot of issues with it.

He told them you would not want to go to the Jets, not that the Jets even showed any interest, but preemptively he was like, I don't want to leave in the I'm a control freak. I don't want to have to learn a new offense. I negotiated this no trade clause. I'm staying here. You guys can that would be?

That makes so much sense, because why would Kirk Cousins ever want to go to a place when Aaron Rodgers is threatening to return in December?

Holy god, what a mess. Wow. I think we've learned a lot and I think we were entertained along the way. I hope so. I hope so.

And if you and if you pair this with our Monday trade deadline primer, I think you're pretty well set up for what's gonna come.

On Tuesday. Yes, totally based in reality. Mostly this, I think.

Just keep listening to this over and over restate the conversation educated, you'll be the smartest one at the bar.

And Colleen, we want to thank you for being a trooper, because yes, you're you're Philadelphia baseball team.

Things didn't go the way.

It's so terrible. Sports are so awful.

I don't know why I do this to myself. I don't know why anyone does this to themselves. Why we get so invested and most of the time we're just set up to fail. And the teams that we love so much just break our heart and here we are.

I feel it, I feel you. You're a You're a true Are you about to cry?

No?

Dan fields so much for you that he asked for a sad song.

I could go on, and honestly, if I kept talking about the Phillies, I probably would cry because this is not how I was supposed to use it all.

You's such a.

Devastatingly terrible loss, and like, of course, a team that is run on solely home runs for the offense is not sustainable for a full season. But like when you go oh for a thousand with runners in scoring positions, this is absolutely going to happen. And Jason Dumwaldt is texting me the whole time on the.

Dmax, So come on show.

I said before you came up here that you had some extra time in the women's locker room.

And you just sat there in the dark. It wasn't in the dark, but sat there alone and said that we.

Were running a little behind schedules.

So I had an extra half hour, and how I spent it was just going and sitting alone by myself and staring forever hour in the locker room it's a really dark day.

It's why kind of you're a real one. I could empathize with you, and it will be better. Each day, the passes will be a little bit better than the one before.

Thanks guys, well until it happens next time. But yeah, now, starting tomorrow night. Hey, I'm done.

No, I'm quitting sports.

You have the Eagles, you have the Eagles.

You can't have them all, all right, all right, good stuff, Thank you everybody for checking things out. We will be back on Thursday with our preview of week eight. We also have the QB Index special up and NFL Plus returns as well on Thursday, and a tin fekap God, there will be some sleep in there teeth.

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