Who Should Be Nervous About The Draft?

The Monday thing is real? It's like ug. It's the worst Tuesday, Blah, Wednesday, hump Day, Thursday, underrated day, always has been, and some people call it Friday JR. Friday, the gentleman's Friday. West. You're back in Los Angeles and according to a conversation, according to comments you made in a conversation earlier today, that you made your last journey on an airplane ahead of your wedding. That's good. Yeah, I hope it's my last journey. Feels like we've been

traveling a lot. Cincinnati was fun. Bachelor party, no strippers, no poker, no paintball. Success that's next week. Well, the the family and friends. From the real part this was that you were there for the paramore. Well, she had her shower and simultaneously hard to keep track of this stuff. My brothers through a bachelor party, we smoked dead animals and through corn hole. It was perfect. That sounds nice And Part two will be in uh Santiago with the

Around the NFL podcast boys a week from Thursday. So we've got some surprises. We're actually gonna smoke live animals. I mean they want to stay live, but as a treat for you, Mark will be eating them as an entirety. Is there any concerned because I mean you you know, Lakisha's had a variety of um female oriented celebrations. I noticed um and one of them that there was like a fleet of stripper poles that they were dancing around learning to do jigs and things. I mean, how did

you How do you feel about that? I think it's great. Kasia is a fantastic dancer. She danced in college. It's a gift she has. I don't share that gift. And maybe if I didn't have that gift, I'd be dancing on stripper poles too. Well, you're saying all the right things, learned a lot already. Ironic that it's West who says keep me away from the strippers for the bachelor party, the wife to be bring of poles. That's sort of one of my questions about these classes that the girls take.

Do you get an actual stripper who's an expert to show you how to do the dances? Or do you have some dancer who just kind of learned how to do kind of stripper moves? Like, are you getting the authentic thing or not? You gotta ask her, ask her what one? Once? I took a stripping class. Stripper, yeah, an exotic dancer, yes, yes, it's a preferred nomenclature. Yes, and then how do we fact check? I mean, it can tell us that, But how do I mean? It is? It is an art? It is so much work. It's

also great core work. I know that I am not nearly in good enough shape to attempt any of those pool dance I'll tell you what though. And you weren't here for our Friday softball recap. You were moving around incredibly well at third base, making every play and uh and and and hitting the ball very well with authority. I didn't see you haven't skipped a beat physically, despite many many comments that you've made in a self deprecating manner that physically you're no longer the same man, or

you're working your way back. You seem to be all man and then so it's very generous of you. I would say the only positive thing I noticed was I definitely have more flexibility than I did a couple of years ago. But my wind was gone after the first time I attempted to run. I didn't feel very rangey at third base. So thank you for saying all that. You're welcome, And that is actually Mark's favorite trade. A man limber limber. Oh, there's no it's that. Then a

deep distance to number two. Alright, a big show coming up today. Uh. Interesting Again, we're in a little weird bubble of the NFL calendar that it feels particularly pronounced this year. I don't know why that just there's not a lot happening, but there's some stupid things happening. And we're gonna talk about some dumb things happening on social

media where a lot of dumb things happened. Uh. And also we're gonna look ahead to the draft and specifically who should be noivous about the draft When you look at the current rosters in the NFL, established players, greg who should look at at what you know. Mayok, well not anymore. Excuse me, excuse me, the new Mayok move the sticks. Who else we got Zerline? Bucky Brooks, Well, that's a big it's a big, big spot for him,

big shoes to fill. But these players, these veterans looking at the draft and and how that could change their careers. Quite frankly, we're gonna talk about some players who should be a little noivous. I talked to Daniel Jeremiah this one. He does not seem nervous. He seemed very comfortable and very luxurious in his new role, happy to be there. Then strike me as a very little to the next couple of weeks. He's prepared. It's it's it's when the

lights come on and it's show time. Does he strike you as a nervous You've got the Wednesday mock draft beforehand. People are keeping score. I mean, that's the big time week. I feel bad for people keeping score on mock draft. Tom. There's got to be something better to do with you, and I don't think Yeah, Jared Jared Goff wasn't nervous during the bye week, although he maybe he was during the bye week before the Super Bowl might not be the best example. I've never seen anyone more nervous than

that man. Before we started the show. We ended up stumbling into adds Internet wormhole. Grape lady who's stopping on grapes uh, and then fell out of the grape thing off the platform. And she had a lot of confidence when she was stopping on the grapes greg uh. And then the lights went up, the cameras were on, and she and tumbling down. I mean, like a lesson learned. Like many of our listeners, I have no idea what you're talking about. We should I mean, we can use

that audio. Yeah, you know what we're talking about. YouTube it great, lady, there's an app for that. All right, let's listen news Listen. You're cute, there's no getting around it. So I don't know if you like country music, but I was thinking maybe one of these days we can drive out to a field, grape up some tunes, spoke a few back and neodles, maybe even toss a disk around. But wait, who wow? I mean, who else got bombarded

in their mentions? Well for not knowing that the d M that Ricky got from a mystery man was actually a Andy Bernard from the Office, uh Pam interaction from season three. I'm only a little surprised because I would say, Dan, you're the biggest Office fan. I know I certainly was, but I that could have slipped past my radar. But when the fifty eighth person tells you in a twelve hour span that it was from the Office, that's when it really hit home that we pulled it from that show.

That it was pulled from that show, That's when I learned, and I guess the lesson. There's a lesson there that, um, it's great to have a big audience that we do on this podcast, and we're all very proud and happy to have this audience, but we get held accountable when we mess up, and and sometimes it's really annoying. Were you getting hitten mentions? I were in there? Your name

is I wasn't too active on social media. I wouldn't say it's exactly what I needed and muted muted everyone by now And I don't know, I think I saw like one of those, but yeah, right, relentless like it was frankly really annoying. All right, let's get into it. Antonio Brown I said there would be something stupid to talk about here. It is Antonio Brown fell out with the Steelers, forced the trade to Oakland. The Steelers got about forty five cents on the dollar in the trade.

Antonio Brown got a big pay day. He essentially got everything you want. Maybe he didn't go to a Super Bowl contender, but he gets to go out west. He gets to play in Vegas for a franchise that that's on TV and people talk about. But for whatever, he's an Antonio Brown is not fully willing to let go of his Steelers days and the beefs that were built during that time. Case in point, Juju Smith Schuster UM, the reigning team MVP of the Steelers and another UM

superstar in his own right at the position um. Antonio Brown uh went after Juju uh specifically, and I'll read it emotion boy fumbled the whole postseason in the biggest game of the year. Everybody went blind, busy, blind, too busy making guys famous. Not enough reality these days, by the way, check But I can't really It's hard to read anything Antonio Brown writes because the words are always

there's always like multiple words missing. Uh. And then Juju Smith Schuster came back at him crazy, how big that ego got to take shots at people who show you love? And then Antonio Brown just uh today West Monday. Uh Then I guess in another way to try to dig at, Juju pulls up an old um Twitter d M that Juju sent asking for ways he was a wide receiver at USC at the time, asking Antonio Brown um what he can do to get better and praising his play. He was already a star on the Steelers Brown was

at that point. Uh So that has become the big story of Monday and West, I know you're thrilled about it. Your thoughts, Well, I guess it puts the lie to the tepid take that Antonio Brown was only acting like a crazy person to get traded and as soon as he got to l a dyed his much dash back to its regular color and we'll start acting like a normal person. No. I think this is one of the old the old saying when someone shows you who he is, believe him. I think Antonio Brown has showed us who

he is. Well, he's he's like a small he's kind of a small insecure guy, which is not atypical of people at the very tops of their profession. It's kind of a a strange dichotomy of, like, you know, sometimes people to get to that point have an enormous ego on one hand, but are also incredibly insecure on another.

This was in response to a fan pointing out that Juju won the Team m Yeah one the Team MVP, which clearly sticks in Antonio Brown's cross so much that he's sitting there, who knows, if you know, what's going on in his life at the time, but he's sees that tweet and he just can't bear to not respond to that because it bothers him so much. And because of all this happening the last couple of days, some

people have been sending out this. Jesse Washington, I believe, is the name who wrote an article on Antonio Brown for The Undefeated UH last September, which I had, which I missed the first time around down UH, and it details a lot of different ways in which Antonio Brown has kind of been small and UH struggled to maintain the personal relationships he's had around him, not just with the mothers of his children, but also his trainers and other other people that have been close to him, where

he's kind of exhibited the same sort of behavior where he's just I don't know, it's not just going hell, it's just kind of had We had a d d Ki kabwala uh the NFL network on our show when we're at the owners meetings, and she's been close and around the Steelers for years now for our company, and she said it, and we've heard it from other places, but I trust her coming straight from her to us saying Antonio A. Broun just changed at some point through

his ego and whatever his personality and what was around him and the success he had changed who he was as a person, and and that led to what you're seeing now. It's just a different person and doesn't sound like a better person. I think, like the all of year old me, I think about this sometimes with Twitter that when I was young and a huge football fan, it would have been my dream to be able to communicate with players and tell them encouraging things and ask

them questions and just learn about their lives. But looking at what happens in general, I do think that we on some level live in a terrible time because this is the perfect example of something where if you have some acts to grind with anyone go handle it one on one. Instead, it becomes everyone's drama and we all have to deal with it, and it's completely unrewarding for us to have to talk about it. And I don't

know who it is rewarding for. Is is Antonio Brown coming out of this feeling better about the way he handled I would imagine actually he will self punish after realizing what this turned into. Two this is you do it in the well, I know, but like you you get it's a little just like he said, said like Juju Smith Shusters had settled down on the emotion, you know, And He's right. It's like we've all felt that. I know,

I've guilty it toly. You hit send on a tweet, you hit send on something you're like wait, wait, and then later like I shouldn't have done that. I think Antonio Brown gets caught in this trap just too much credit for his level of self awareness at this point. Well, I know nothing about him. I do think he is very interested in being one of the biggest superstars alive or certainly in in sports. I think that's that's very important to him. And so maybe, like like other people

who have risen high in this in this country. You know, he's he's interested in attention for attentions sake, and isn't even really picking between good and bad. In that article, they pointed out he puts more on Instagram than literally any than any major athlete, like like just by post. I mean that's that's he wants the attention on some level, good, bad or whatever. He can find it on your diary,

you can find attention. Like when it's one thing, when the student starts to turn on the teacher, you kind of get it. That's the way of life. You think you're better than your dad at basketball and the driveway all of a sudden or whatever it is. But when it's Antonio Brown turning on juju to me something about that's going in the wrong direction. He's just totally on appealing and he's like a two year old kid, and he's just mad that he won the Team MVP Award.

By the way, thank you to the Steelers again for keeping this Team MVP award. Going looking forward to them announcing this year that James Washington was the Team m v P and then Ben Roethlisber gets pissed. It's like something new every year, doesn't Antonio Brown feel a little bit like an off brand Terrell Owens the generation later, yes, yeah, and then not that did things the right way either, But it was something more entertainment. That was fresher, That

was fresher. This this is in the completely the category of completely unnecessary and unrewarding to all of us. An Antonio Brown's is more mean, right, It's more lashing out at people and trying to hurt people, And Terrell Owens was a lot of self destructiveness. All right, let's move on. Josh Rosen another a key name around the NFL draft because, as we know, um Cliff Kingsbury, the new head coach of the Cardinals, big air raid guy. He's in love

with Kyler Murray. They say, and that, and they that's gonna end with the Cardinals picking Murray with the first overall pick, and that means curtains for Josh Rosen, the quote unquote franchise quarterback in Arizona. So where is he gonna end up? Well, a couple of reports over the weekend's surface. ESPN's John Kinn believes there is a quote solid chance Kim bomb uh Kim bomb in a big

spot that Washington will trade for Rosen. Peter King and his Monday Morning Quarterback column UH called Washington the quote favorite in the clubhouse to trade for Rosen, and it's certainly greg that certainly makes sense from the standpoint of Alex Smith, and Washington is very it's very in doubt whether he'll play another step in his career after that

broken leg case. Keenum heads there and he's no one's idea of even a bridge, I feel like at this point, and Colt McCoy can't stay on the field, just have another leg surgery. Josh Rosen would bring in a someone with actual, true potential going forward and maybe not a too bad cost, not at all. I think there's most teams I think would be uh well served by giving

up a second round pick for Josh Rosen. I really think there's more teams than not in the NFL that I would say that's a good trade sending your second or maybe maybe it's a high third, and the Redskins would be high on that list. They're also one of four teams Albert Brier marked as teams that have contacted the Cardinals asking about Rosen. Trying to figure it out. Is that there was the Giants, the Chargers, uh, and

the Redskins were another one of them. The Giants are quote not in love with Rosen, so maybe you could cross them up. The list doesn't seem right. It doesn't seem right now that the list is that long for people interested in Rosen. But also there's maybe a lot that we don't know well. Theren't that many teams that need the starter. But where we're like, Rosen is labeled as not a fit for the air raid offense in comparison to Kyler Murray. He does fit with Jon Gruden.

I think that John Cruden is in a make or break season. I don't mean Jake Gruden. Excuse me. I don't know how many years the Redskins want to go on with this front office in this head coach. But this is a quarterback that would fit very well for him, So I think Jake Ruden would absolutely pushed to do this.

The Lord idea I found fascinating I think it was from Breer's column, was that in the month or two leading up to the draft, and maybe this goes from February through late April, draft picks are worth so much more to the people who have them than they are in summertime or the off season, and why haven't analytics found a way to exploit this this like gold rush from February to August, where a number fifty overall pick in the draft is probably worth what like a number

twenty overall pick in the draft. It just seems incongruous, and I think, I think, and then it and then it changes a little bit during the draft. Now that in the Patriots have taken advantage of that. There was a study of like who's done the most pick swap trades, and they've done like a third of the pick swap trades in the entire league over the last ten years. Because I think once you get down the draft day, then people just have guys that they want and that

they're willing to give him up. And for the record, Josh Rosen attempting appears to be attempting to minimize the drama around the situation. He did report to the opening of Arizona's offseason conditioning workouts, and not only did he report, according to Ian rapp Report or NFL Media Insider, he was the first man in the building. Is he listen

to Chaz Castle and Greig? I mean the first man in the building, beat that general into the building, beat the refrigerator guy into the building, beat the mass into the building. Do we eat? Do they just have key cards? I mean, who is even confirming this? It's just no one's there to confirm it was there at like three thirty in the morning, be like, hey, no one's here that.

How does everyone even anyone gonna know? Uh? He could I mean he could go in there like two in the morning and then take a nap for seven hours. He could have done that tests you know, the whole first one in, last one to leave culture or quote. I don't know, it's overrated. It's overrated because we're not We're not the first ones in the building. So to us, it's over an overrated quality here. If you're talking invest

the Cowboys and DeMarcus Lawrence got it done. They agreed Friday to terms on a five year, one and five million dollar contract. Sixty five million of that guaranteed rap sheet and Mike Garafolo reported that is the most guaranteed money ever for a non quarterback and also the highest first year payout for a non QB. The previous record for defensive player was Khalil Mack. He made thirty one

million in two thousand eight. Lawrence, Mac and Aaron Donald are the only three defensive players averaging more than twenty million per season. Chris Westling, Lawrence turns twenty seven this month. I believe he is. He's gonna have back surgery. Yes, shoulder surgery. Excuse me, uh coming up. So that is not inconsequential to this, but your thoughts on the signing not only not inconsequential, but to me, the most interesting part of this was the leverage he had because of

that surgery. He had played through a torn laborum and his shoulder all of last year and part of two thousand seventeen. The Cowboys wanted him to get this surgery, and he you know, it's a big deal for a player to go and undergo serious, major surgery. So he said, I'm not doing it. I'm willing to wait until the week before the training camp training camp to do this, which would have put a season in jeopardy. And the Cowboys said, no, we want you to do it now.

And they were able to find common ground on this because they wanted him to have the surgery probably a month or two ago. It's a reminder for teams that have guys on the tag now that you know. I think if if the best case scenario happens and the guy stays healthy and plays well, you're gonna pay for it, because you know Lawrence. I read a breakdown that he was asking at one point for less money than Trey Flowers got from the Patriots, and I mean from the

Lions rather, not even that long ago. He was asking for that, and then suddenly Trey Flowers signs and it's like, Okay, that's the starting point. We're going to get more than that. So the longer you wait and don't get a deal done, which they maybe could have done during last season, you end up paying a lot more. It's interesting that Stephen Jones, their VP now, coming out and saying that the any deal that they get together for Dak Prescott now and

quotes must be a team friendly. It's like, okay, well, so, well, you know you've not solved all your problems. DeMarcus Lawrence has been an All Pro caliber player for the last two years. He comes in right under Von Miller and Khalil Mackworth, which is where he should be. I mean, I'm not as down on Dak as Greg is. I'm not that just can't stand him, that's true, just fine quarterback. But if I were the Cowboys, I would say the same thing to Dak Prescott. You have to take a

team friendly all out. He has a chance to be like a more entertaining Andy Dalton type career. That's what I'm saying. That sort of seems to me more more of a Donovan Nap. That'd be all right, though. I mean Debarcus Lawrence, by the way, like three years ago. It's crazy, you're two years ago was like a bust

coming off suspention one sack like change that narrative. Change it pretty fast, alright, little draft talk, Uh, Peter King, I believe in that same Monday Morning Quarterback column, here's that Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins is quote sinking and he might be the fourth of those qbs. Let's go over and again, Kyler Murray presumed at number one, Drew Lock, Daniel Jones, and Dwayne Haskins. A lot of people say, oh, we won't be surprised of all four of those goes.

All four of those players go in the first round, and Haskins all of a sudden, according to this report, Uh, maybe the last one off the board, and rap Sheet reported that Haskins will visit with the Broncos and there they are again, the Redskins this week. Well this brings to mind a quote from Daniel Jeremiah Monday morning, note to self, Everything you hear for the next two weeks will be a lie m. I mean, how do you know whether to believe this Haskin stuff or not? It

could be anything, lads. Aeroline UH had a similar take to the King article, calling the perceived draft stock quote more media created than team driven. Well, that's I mean all. I think it's fair though, for us to completely ignore every mock draft ever, or anyone who wants to do that. You're you're gonna be fine if you don't look at a single mock draft. But it's also fair if you're doing them too. Push all these quarterbacks up because you can,

you can act like you're smarter than everyone in. Dwayne Haskins is less valuable than some defensive tackle in terms of actual pure talent. But every single year, these quarterbacks get over inflated and move up. And I would be surprised if he went back went past the Bengals. To be honest, with you. I mean they talked about him having some similar traits to Jared Goff and that Zach Taylors has done a ton of court work and sees

some similarities there. Who knows, We don't know, because there are tons of guys who teams reach for quarterback wise, but there are also tons of guys who are still in the green room or fall to the second round when you think they're going. He has the qualities like anticipation and seeing the field that that is believed to be some of his better at routes. That like, that's what I like as as a prospect. That is what

a Zach Taylor I think wou like. But you're right also, West Some of these times, some it's just impossible to know sometimes these little whispers, and people thought Mike Mack was crazy for believing the whispers that Aaron Rodgers was going to fall in the draft and he people like people mocked him at the time, like, oh, you're insane where that's coming from? And there you go, Brady quit.

It was another one that like a couple of people out right, but not many, but there are like like the legit X factor of Josh Rosen filling someone's quarterback need, and that could that's gonna take one of these guys and drop him fart on the board. There is the outside chance because if you do look at the mocks, half of them seem to have the Raiders moving up for a quarterback to and you can't. You'd have to move Derek Hart in theory, or have that awkward situation

play out that would remove another quarterback opening. So we just it's all these hope, like these unsolved situations. I'd rather just wake up on like May fifth and be like it's all over, thank you. Let's end the news with a couple of quarterback notes. Sean Mannion uh did not stick around with the Rams after four years, but he signs with the Vikings, where he will back up

Kirk Cousins. The Vikings were looking for a backup because their former backup, Trevor Trevor Simeon went to the Jets to back up Sam Donald and finally West, You said, Johnny Manziel, Well that's incorrect because uh uh, the former Brown's quarterback. I feel like he's been on forty teams since the Browns. But the former Brown's quarterback um now goes by John manziel He he John different John John manziel Uh. He told Dan Patrick that's what it is. And West you had said that you saw that maybe

it was a joke. I'm being in various media reports, including TMZ sports that he seriously is dropping the n y from his name. He is now John manzil Uh in an effort to grow up. And Uh, this is interesting, Mark, because it whenever this happens, there's always a little bit of like, remember when Debbie Gibson said she was Deborah terrible idea, But yeah, I know you didn't know, Greg No terrible start too. You were born. You missed Debbie Gibson.

Electric you remember that big, big period in the eighties. She was like Taylor Swift before Taylor Swift. But she tried to go to Debora and go to Broadway and everybody was like, no, come on, well you try to turn little Debbie where you suggested that when she became an older rapstress that she could change her name to what larger Deborah. I believe it was something like that. There was also Larry Fishburn now that kind of work,

because he said, I want to be more serious. He was on Pebebee's Playhouse as the Cowboy, and then he became now yes, and he was Larry then and then he ended up I think getting an Oscar nod for the Tina Turner movie. Don't quote me on that. Also, back in Danny Hansas told my mom one day, Mom, I'm going by Dan. Well that's smart. I mean, it

is kind of a big moment. It is a big I think you have to have a level of gravity toss almost to counteract if you're if you're going by Johnny or Danny or a name like that as an adult. And if if you're john Johnny Man's out. You don't you don't have that. What age did you switch? Saying so you felt at age eleven you had acquired the adult like skills to switch from Danny to Dan. I'm

doubt you think back to it. I was entering junior high essentially, and I probably Danny I associated with being you know, little Danny, the boy that has my parents and all my families still call me Danny this day. But I had I had to move on into a more mature place in my life, and uh, it changed everything. I have a situation with I'm not here if I'm Danny Hansas. I'll tell you that right now. Well, you know, I mean, if you can flip and pancakes. I mean,

you're giving yourself nicknames left and right. So it's it's still out. There is an option at some point, but you could call me Danny. That'd be fine. Uh. That's what's happening in the news football fanatics. It's April. It's draft month, and that means we are just weeks away from a special event that should make died in the

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one guy on our depth chart. He's going to take out that time out of his schedule in Nashville for this event. Yes, because I you know, talk at I talked to him this morning. He very much cares about the people that he's plugged in with the fans. He knows that's a big good thing. It's a six hour meet and Greek that will include an elegant four course dinner with a vegetarian option and an open bar including

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on Thursday April. Um, round one and even round two and three? You know, but um, let's get going here, Mark, throw a name out there. This team has been kind of whiplashed and taken down by fans for their lack of activity the Cincinnati Bengals, But I I truly think that behind the scenes that Zach Taylor has enough buy in from ownership on down to explore other quarterbacks and to take a shot at one, where the Bengals draftwise have done very little of that. In general, there's been little,

very little threat to Andy Dalton. And I do believe that, uh, and this comes from a little whisper her from someone too behind the scenes, that this is the year that they are going to add with the their They have the best pick they've had in a while, number eleven. You have a chance to get one of these four quarterbacks we just talked about. Which one. Who knows. That's not my job, but they're gonna grab one. And I don't think that it means that Andy Dalton's, you know,

going to be replaced come week one. That will take time. We'll see how that happens. That always is like, oh, they're very comfortable and having Andy Dalton teach this rookie that wrote, well, we'll see. Then by week four, when the whole ship is sinking, then you make the switch like everyone does. Andy Dalton can be moved or cut even for literally zero deadcap money and sixteen plus million

in savings. I don't think that's gonna happen. I think it's a trans But finally, and as they should, they're going to take a chance on a different quarterback. And that would mean, in a Joe Flacco like situation that if he's worth anything, this would be the last year of the Glowing Red gingerman in as what West likes to call the city natty Town. Do not call it

natty Nats. How does Daniel Jeremiah feel about you giving away all the information that did not come from Daniel Jeremiah that I can promise you so I would that would be too easy to connect those thoughts because I mentioned him for four times that we could talk, not about this talking to we did see you talk to Bucky? Or why would I give that if so much for

that pep talk. I guess here's the thing, though, even if they did draft Um a quarterback, You're right, they would ben Janny Dalton the second that they're under five hundred, you know, after a quarter or more into the season. But there are examples of guys like Alex Smith um and is back in the day where I think Gatty Dalton is going to be given a shot over any

of these guys. They're not necessarily viewed, especially where the Bengals are drafting, as you know, guys that have to be starting right away, and he'll get his shot to try to lead them to a winning record. And if you don't have it halfway through the season, you've probably done in your pep talk, and you made a good point that in that two thousand eleven draft there was

Blaine Gabbard and who's the Christian ponder? Jake Locker and Andy Dawl and Kaepernick one pick ahead, and you also he's also Sid Daltons had an incredible career, which was too strong, But your point was well well made that he has been he's been fine as a quarterback, and I wonder if it's been better than I bet I could go through him, but I bet he's done better

than you know of the second round pick. My, my, my, My take on this is with these again, we're talking about the big four that are out there that everyone's talking about. What are the chances that one or any of those guys is better than Andy Dalton would Cincinnati must be better off addressing other needs rather than to replace a perfect, the average or above average quarterback. I

do think they have other needs. In the first one precludes putting a rookie quarterback behind that offensive line until they fixed that offensive line. I don't want a rookie quarterback.

Let's let me ask you one one follow up though, because I feel like if you go get Zach Taylor one of these so called like young offensive minds, and unless Zach Taylor simply went in and his absolutely, you know, it feels the way Greg does about Andy Dalton, Like I I don't think you can tell a new coach that there's a mandate to have any power at all. I'm just saying that job. It's just a new theory that because you have an offensive coach, you have to

get a new quarterback that he wants. Like sometimes the GM and the owner are more powerful and say, hey, coach, deal with the quarterback on the roster. That could certainly be the case, but I don't think it's new to think that coaches who view themselves as offensive gurus, whether they verbalize that or not, want to pick their own quarterbacks,

want their own guy in the next that happens. I don't think it'd be a bad idea for the Bengals, even though I gave that PEP doc to be thinking quarterback, whether it's the first or the second round, to to try it. They haven't tried anyone in a long time. I'm trying to picture Andy Dalton nervous. That feels like, oh golly, just put him in a playoff game. I mean, he doesn't strike me as nervous or overly confident in the middle West, throw another one out there, who's Noive's

who should be noives? Well, as we know, the NFL stands for not for long, so everyone should be nervous except Eli Manning, who is gonna run out there and he literally calcifies into the statue they want to feature outside their state. But the second letuls save a lot of money. The second person I thought of after Eli is Jimmy Graham because he had a terrible year last

year for the Packers. He was awful. He didn't block, he didn't catch, contested passes, cost West a sandwich, cost me a sandwich, which maybe that explains why I'm bitter about the way he played last year. And there are two Iowa tight ends in the first round who would look good in Green Bay. Um, I think Jimmy Graham he needs to be concern learned about. He needs to be neuivious, does he? I'm trying to remember what his

contract situation was. Is he a guy who potentially could lose his son if you cut him after June one? It's eight million dead, four million in savings, which is tenable if you're gonna if you wanted to move on from the paid him though five millions that he was someone where I don't think he would be too nervous because in his mind he probably is like I got one more big time year to get paid and then and he got it. They gave it to him on He should be nervous about his snaps, right, but he

got it five days into the league here. I thought he might get cut to your point, Mark and they could have gotten out of it. But they gave him five million guaranteed, so he's on that rock. I think Mercedes Lewis would be quickly applying for jobs elsewhere. He's purely blocking at this point. I can't believe he's still in the league. All right, Um, I'll throw it out there, all right, this is more well, well, it concerns the man as well, and I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled

about it. But um, when I talk about nerves rams fans, maybe UM would be more nervous about the draft if I told you there's a chance, what if they you know, go and find a Todd Gurley compliment higher than people expect, because what what do we know about the Todd gurleyy situation, just that it is not something that's potentially gonna heal overnight, that it's something that has to be I believe the

word was maintained going forward. I mean there was a lot of talk at the combine from the leaders of the RAMS that this is a situation that's it's kind of a new reality around the RAMS. And if I'm Todd Gurley, I'm wondering what happens here because they let C. J. Anderson walk. Uh, they resigned Malcolm Brown, but to peanuts he makes relatively Um, so what is what is else? What's in their backfield? Uh? What if they have at

the thirty first overall pick? You know what if they are attempted to to grab someone to thunder and lightning or just give Todd Gurley the rest, if they really if if Todd Gurley isn't actually a financial investment, uh for them, it probably behooves them to have someone in there that he could split the workload with. Uh there's

one name I'll throw out there. I'm not a draft expert, but I've been reading up on some of Josh Jacobs of Alabama is supposed to be the guy that um goes in the first round, the running back that goes in the first round. A lot of mocks. In fact, all of our experts on NFL dot Com all have them going except with the exception of one. Analysts have him going to the Eagles. At that's kind of where he's going right now. Uh, mid to late first round.

Would the Rams potentially go get Jacobs or someone else? Uh? They also have the pick in the third round something to track as the Todd Gurley mystery goes on, they'd be insane and they'd get killed. You know, they had they just gave Todd Gurley that money. What's the money for? They just in Malcolm Brown. He's only making two million. That actually one of the highest paid backups in the league. I think they've got so many issues because they're a

young team. But they haven't had many draft picks lately, like any high draft picks. And they're missing a second rounder again this year. I'm not sure which trade that was part of. I'm sure any research could have picked that up. But like they've got one pick in the top of nineties. It's like, well, I'm just saying why I'm saying, like I've mentioned that because anyone listening can easily what I'm saying is you say it's insane. But what if what we're hearing is that Todd Gurley no

longer is. I think that's getting overblown. I think he's gonna be I think it's gonna be a big part of their I think he's gonna be a big part of their offense. And so worst case scenario, he's like splitting you know, he's he's one A to Malcolm Brown's one B and that's why you paid Malcolm. What I would find absolutely um delicious about it is this that everything they've said over and over, contrary to you know, flying to Switzerland or whatever, said other things, he's doing

it to pick to get his knee looked at. Like he's absolutely fine, everything's absolutely fine, Like we have no concerns. He's going to be the same player he ever was. We're also going to have someone else take some of the workload up. But then if you drafted someone at thirty one, you can't roll into that press conference with all these benign statements. So I don't I don't mean it would be happening, but it would. I just think they have huge. They have other big market high alright, uh,

end of the first round. But if they use it on either of their three picks they have, as I said, in the third round, that's going to just, you know, build more drama around the situation about how much rest girl he's gonna need going forward. I really like Malcolm Brown. I think they do too. All Right, you're up. I'm you know. You said notable players when we're like prominent players that should be nervous. I don't know if mine's really that prominent, Gina, but I don't care. It's a

prominent position that swing TA talk about. Damian Williams of the Kansas City Chiefs. He's all excited, he's all excited about finally being like guy. He is the starting running back right now for the Kansas City Chiefs. Carlos Hyde is probably the backup, and they've talked up Damian Williams is like this guy is He's gonna get a chance. He looked really exciting last year. But when I think of guys that should be nervous going into the draft,

it's not so much superstars with guaranteed money. It's guys that have never really quite at an opportunity like Damian Williams and he's thinking, this is my chance. And the Chiefs are in this weird spot with the Tyreek Hill situation hanging over their heads. Uh. You know, they adapted to life without Kareem Hunt quite well. Their their offensive lines a little bit in transition. Uh. I just think that they're gonna need another running back that they're not

going to go into the season with. Damian Williams is their clear starter, even though I thought he looked great last year. And that's a guy where one year as the chief starter, could you know, change his life. I'd be worried if Damian Williams wasn't almost a perfect fit for the Andy Reid offense that they came out. The one thing about Brett Veach, I feel like he says what's on his mind. I don't think he's um at the point where he's like spinning whispers left and right,

where he's able to fool everyone in the room. Like all last offseason he kept telling us Patrick Mahomes like, we're all in, we love me, He's the best player we've ever seen. And they just went on and on about Damian Williams that they love his fit, and they love the way he played, and he costs next to nothing, like he could have competition. But he's a good fit.

That's the If he wasn't, I'd be more concerned. I feel like he should be cautiously optimistic about where he is right now, right with an eye on the draft, like, oh, wait, are they really going to let me? Because in it all it would take is a third or fourth round pick that you actually hit on and then that guy's you're starting week one. Yep, alright, one more time around the horn. Mark, Well, Dan, I don't mean to do this, um,

because this is your guy. What was also like two other people's guys in this room at various times, but three time making the leap candidate Lamar Miller. I mean, I know that, I know the Texans. Oh this is one where I feel like they protest too much, where they keep telling us that Lamar Miller is everything they could ever asked for at the starting running back position.

But you look at that whole running back round. There's injury questions around the rest of the crew and Miller to me, you could cut him and it would cost you one million dollars. Not that they need to cut him, but it's just that he's not the future and there's no reason not to grab another running back because they also ignored, essentially outside of UM taking Matt Khalil and free agency, their entire offensive line. So I don't know

where you get that running back. I'm not saying it's a first round pick, but that position needs to be addressed for a more balanced offense in Houston. I think Lamar Miller would be the odd man out at the

hit hit on someone Um. Greg. You and I were standing next to each other when Pearl River native and Texans general manager Brian Gaines spoke, and I remember it registering in my head that he was kind of going through the motions in terms of praising uh, Lamar Miller's like he called him at three down back, and he said that he almost ran for a thousand yards, as if running for a thousand yards was almost And you just got the feeling between his underwhelming season outside that

one Thursday night game and the Doctor Freeman coming off the torn achilles in the back that there's gonna be someone else in there, and the fact that they didn't use free agency. I'd be really surprised if they didn't use. Um. Let's see there, they pick twenty three, so they're right in the Josh Jacobs area according to draft experts, and then they have two second round picks fifty four and fifty five. I would think of running back ends up being picked there, and I can save six million by

cutting him, and they could use the money. Couldn't we all well that kind of money? Please? I wouldn't be here on Wednesday. You would quit if you were rich. Now I would not. I would actually think would be much more easy to do any job that you enjoy. If you suddenly just for wicked rich, you'd start giving more people a piece of your mind. That might be true, a little guff, give people some guff. No one would

have any rule over me at on any level. Mark, what do you think about the idea of Aunt Becky doing time for the college admission scam? Do you think she should gotta yell? Do you think she should go to prison for this? Yes? Or no? Totally unrelated but money, No, because I think that what would happen is she would be put in one of those um, those very rich people prisons where you're allowed to like uh mate with

your partner and read like books right off the tennis. Yeah, it's like it's sort of like, are you describing the rest of development? Yeah, it's like I I think that anyone would want to be in that situation where you don't really have any responsibility other than to read all day long and eat meals and then you're out. Mark's newtake prison. That's avat. I don't like. I don't like what she did, um that whatever. I mean, it just seems like a rich person type crime, like something else

should be done to her. All right, let's just curious your thoughts. It's hard to follow. I actually I wanted to see if I could get a defensive player in here. Two time Pro Bowler Dolphins safety Rashad Jones coming off labor SIR three struggles and coverage do thirteen million this year, and they reportedly want to move Minca Fitzpatrick to safety. If they draft another safety, Sean Jones might find himself

without a job. I can see that new coaching staff shortly had quiet profusely sitting on his couch a quietly had a you know, controversy. I don't even know if we ever mentioned on this show where you know he left the field last year. There was some Oh yeah, remember you know, kind of are we in the fish stake? I think I think we're back in the back in the fish stake. Today he told that he pulled himself from the game, kind of like our reverse when Santonio

Holmes got kicked out of the huddle. Wo. He counts seventeen point one six million dollars against the cap this year. That is insane. Would that make it more confident or less confident? I think they could and he doesn't gonna get that money. If they caught him after June one or trade him after June first, I think they can

save a ton of money. Um, I'd be Nois. I'm gonna throw this name out there because I thought you were gonna do it Mark, And I don't know what Gregg's last one is, and I think we should hit him. Um the Raiders, Derek Carr. Uh. It just as as much as we're hearing all the all the positive things, if Dave Gentleman has taught taught me anything in this lost off season for the Giants, it's just not to

believe anybody when they say anything. Uh. And as much as John Gruden has said positive things about Car, it comes down to this boys. It's been a long time since this happened. I think the Jets had it back in two thousand. Uh. One of my historians here can help me out what the researchers a little bit of research and help research. But the four first round picks for the Raiders, and I'm thinking to myself, when a team has a bounty like that, one of those four

first round picks won't be a quarterback. Certainly could happen. I mean, they could go all the courts, all different routes, but I wonder if it's John Gruden's final domino in this massive rebuild. I don't and I'm not saying I think it should happen or I think it will happen, But I think if I'm Derek Carr, I'm very nervous for draft day because can I trust this guy? Do do? I?

I know, you know everyone's putting out the story that we get along well, but can I trust him when there are four first round picks on Here's why I didn't put them at the top of my list. Was like Rashad Jones number one, A hundred thousand dollars. They say if they cut them and they lose all the rest and dead money. And I looked at Derek carrs they save a hundred thousand dollars if they cut them, and they are on the hook for twenty two point four millions, so you have to but they can keep

them this year. You could keep them and that right, so you keep them this year and then you move you can you can deal that down the road, or you could try to move them, which we've discussed some scenarios that could potentially I growd into Grooden type thing or whatever, but we don't here. There's no buzz around that. But I agree with you that the visits we keep about with Oakland over and over our quarterbacks. They are looking at quarterbacks. It's not one of these teams where

we've got our guy and there's no curiosity. There is a clear curiosity. And I thought it was interesting he did, uh you know, he did a little social media testing to the waters there, you know, just sending the eyes emojis last week when they were hosting Kyler Murray. So that's the guy that's nervous. And let me correct myself. They have three first round picks, but there um fourth pick in the draft is thirty five overall, So it's right out. It's right in the second beginning of the

second round. So this is a team with four quarterbacks that everyone says we'll go top thirty, top forty, maybe top twenty. There are four names out there, and there's Derek Carr and John Gruden, who has been on a quest for you know, fourteen months in counting or whatever, rebuilding this roster in his own and his own image. Will he survived? You can also trade Derek Carr in October when someone's knee gets you know, absolutely removed from

their body. Yes, always do that. Once again, Mark rooting for injuries. No, I'm not rooting for it. I'm just saying, be smart with your trade options. Close it out. I'm gonna go with James Conner. I think that the Steelers really fell part in part because they didn't have anyone behind James Conner. As I think James Conner is the third round pick behind the best offensive line in the league,

and he's good. But are they going to go into the year just with James Conner and just hoping a that he can stay healthy, which you know, he had a lot of workload last year, and so I'm not going to kill him for not making it through the season, but be they don't have anyone behind him at all, and it who knows the second or third round pick in this draft, which it's not top heavy at running back but fairly deep. I think they could bring in

some competition for him. You're thinking overall workload, though it's not going to be replaced as the starter for good. I mean he was a third round pick. I don't know. I mean, I don't look, I don't view I think he's a great player, but I don't view him. If they did draft someone as someone that would be question that surprises. He was one of the most productive running backs in the league when he was healthy. He was

really good. And it wouldn't be something where you would think the guy would come in and be a Week one starter. But are they going into the year with James Conner and Jalen Samuels and to me, running back of any position sometimes it was six, second, third, fourth round picks. I mean, we've seen it over and over the last couple of years. Or they come in and they're very productive, like James Conner or like Cream Hunt right away, and and and then he's got some some heat.

That's a great situation to be in to be the running back on that team. Hell yeah, great line, great quarterback playmakers everywhere? Do it all right? Good talk, guys. One last thing, We've had several British listeners request that we talked about Christian Wade, rugby star who just signed with the Buffalo Bills on their international player program. And what do we think he's going to be. We have no idea. I mean, I've never seen him play rugby,

much less play in the NFL. I will say that of all all the positions where talent matters more than skill, running back would be pretty close to the top. You could come in and do it. That said, until you see the guy play football, how will we know. I mean, I don't see him coming in and unseating Lashawn McCoy kind of learned from an all time great and Frank Gore the right way to be a running back. I mean, we had Jared Hank come in with the forty Niners and he was supposed to be one of the better

rugby players. I know, I'm gonna get all kinds of tweets union rugby versus League rugby and all these other different kinds of rugby. Whatever. This guy was hyped so much and like barely made an impact. What's funny you say you don't know you know what's gonna happen with him? I do, um two forty six yards this year, but next year becomes a legit international uh star success story one thousand fifty yards as the starter would be against him making the final fifty three man Brian game to

be thrilled about that fifty yards killer. Alright, good rugby, talk good luck to that man, and uh we'll be back on Thursday, our next uh time. We're all together. Well, we're on NFL network every day now. Um, they're using us right now. And I made the analogy before the show. It's like you go to summer camp and you're all of a sudden you're the pretty girl and and he wants to take you to the dance, and then you

go back to school in September. And also you know he's also back at school with everybody else, and he's not paying attention anymore. We're getting a lot of tension on network right now. That's good. What happens when we go back to school, We're gonna get that same attention. It's a fair point, apt I think we're gonna get probably dumped. So you can check us out on Up to Up to the Minute on NFL Network Monday through Friday, UM.

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