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I don't know what you're talking about. Greg. I can't wait till I open up my timeline on Sunday and Scott Hansen's like, one week from today, we're watching football. I mean, the the irony is I am, we are. I am truly excited. I think we are. It's gonna be uh, it's gonna be fun. But I'm just I'm sick of hearing the same things on this little ramp up, like let's just get there, let's just get to Thursday night.

I sent you the one you know last night there's and this is like a billion dudes doing this, like oh, because you know, college football was like it's going to be the last Thursday without football until like December. I don't know if I'm that just makes me feel anxiety, to be honest, like, I don't need that calendar update at this point. I'm glad it's all back, but like,

don't tell me about I don't know. Just also, I don't need presumptive tweets about what's going to happen in the future in the year, Like, here's exactly what's gonna happen on every week for the next four months. Let's just leave it open and we'll play it by not get cocky here. Let's do the and Greg if you already know, and who am I kidding? You definitely already know. Let me know. But let's let's do the old cousin sal Bill Simmons thng um, hey, guys, let's the spread

for Texans k C. I don't know at all. I promise, all right, what do you? What do you? Mark? And and Greg and then Ricky guess the spread. I'd say Chiefs by seven. I'll go eight and a half Chiefs minus seven chief market half. Ricky I thought, I thought I thought he had the answer right minus eleven. I think if my math is correct. Probably isn't. No, I guess it's a tie anyway. It's chiefs nine and a half lay in the wood, So who wins the closest somebody else figure that out? Yeah, I was one away.

I mean that's that. This is This is uh, this is easy to add up. It's a lot of respects. It's a lot of respect I do wonder and I don't want to get too deep into the desert um, but the whole home field advantage thing is interesting. Are they going to really factor is? You do have the home field advantage still, there's been a lot of numbers

and a lot of a lot of reality lately. The home field advantage is pretty overrated to begin with that the last two or three years at least, um the desert has been building in a lot of home field advantage when really home teams aren't aren't doing that much better than than road team. Arrowhead might be a little different, but Arrowhead in itself is very different than normal Arrowhead.

I don't know what like a smattering of nineteen thousand, you know, families clustered in fours and fives does for a home field advantage. It's gonna be weird. It's gonna be weird. It's gonna be a bizarre. They're gonna have people in there the building, right, sixteen thousand people. Yeah, I mean they're gonna do the trophy ceremony. That'll be cool. Um, you know it's gonna be al and Chris I am fired up. My kids home, we'll be watching like that's cool.

But the sixteen thousand of it all, I don't know what that's gonna feel like because they will be somewhat loud, you would think. I mean, that's still a lot of people, even though they're spread out, but it's just gonna look strange. I don't know if they're having the fake pumped in crowd noise too, So they are I thought I read that. Yeah, yeah,

we were talking about right. I think it's I think that home That airline hum that Steve Weish told us about it so far is across the board and it turns on before kickoff and turns off after the final.

What was the final? I was we were talking about before we started today, how I've been disappointed in what feels a little bit hollow the baseball season with all the all the COVID related drawbacks, this season, and one of the ones that really stinks is like, if you're a Washington Nationals fan, I know that organization hasn't been around forever. They used to be the Expos, but that was a fan base that for years they were a

bottom feeder. And then they go in this unlikely World Series championship run and then there's no celebration with fifty screaming fans in d C to hoist the flag and give the rings. So at least the Chiefs get a taste of that, even though it's not the same as eighty thousand screaming fans at Arrowhead. That's a weird year. And I checked the standings a little while ago. The

Washington team stinks, so they can't even enjoy that. You you could call the Nationals the Nationals, still, it's our Washington team that we can't call by the nickname anymore.

One little nugget from the Chiefs getting the rings the other day, where Patrick Mahomes, you know, we've been up in those suites during the combine in Indianapolis, and there was a nice suite up in the kans in Kansas City that was like decorated from head to toe with or Nate Um probably like fourteen thousand dollars worth of flowers where he proposed to his uh you know fiance now now fiance girlfriend turned to fiance And like, I mean,

just another example of Patrick Mahomes doing things just a little bit better than basically another any other man that I could point to at this point. Yeah, I liked how I did it one day on a on a beach on the Pacific Ocean in Malibu, over the suite with you by yourself or did you like have a friend hiding as like a photographer. Yeah, oh I had no. It was just me and my future wife. I did the beach that night, and she she was so gen

manly surprised. She thought I was joking, which is where like a lifetime of sarcasm comes back to bite you. She genuinely thought for for a little while. But yeah, I'm not giving Mahomes any credit over me for that. I mean, I will I'm happy How I did it? Mark, How did you do it? Actually it was Simone lived up in Santa Monica and it was to the beach. We didn't do the beach. It was just like I decided that night, Auta. I was like I'm doing it

this tonight. And we I went up to see her, and like we took a walk and I just did it on the street corner up from like the her apartment where we had hung out for months and months. So now we recreated it so someone could take a photo. What did you say that pregnant? Mark? Now what I'm off to Vegas? No, inaccurate, It's likely a little Truely, you guys have I know Simone, If you're listening, I'm sorry she's she was a staunch listener, but is rocked

um her listening status uh to the core. Alright, well, we'll get her back, hopefully once the games begin and her niners are thriving, hopefully. All right, let's get to the news. It's a rundown Friday. You are the weakest thing. Do you know that that show is coming back to NBC? It is it now? I mean Mark, I mean Dan's been wanting to bring it back for years. I try to bring back that um pop culture bit about five years ago. It didn't take. But maybe NBC has something

cooking that I didn't know about it. Ricky, do you have any more on this that you could share at this time? Not at this time. No, but I did see on Twitter that Jane Lynch is hosting the new one, so that should be cool. They're not bringing the British Uh, the stern British woman back. Yeah, I don't know. I I'm excited to watch it and I think that everybody should watch it because it's gonna be fun, funny and fun. Hey, Erica, you missed the show on Monday. Huh yeah, boy Uh,

I was just busy. Really. I think we're laying some bread crumbs here, folks follow along. All right, let's get into the news. Subred is gonna have so many theories about that one. Let's get into its starting with Leonard four Nett, who cut loose by the Jaguars. The former first round pick picked up by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed to a one year, two million dollar contract. You can get up to three and a half million if

he hits some incentives rushing yards and playing time. It creates a very crowded backfield situation in Tampa, Um including Leshawn Leshawn McCoy's there and Mike Garfolo reported that he's still going to be in the mix. Potentially. Ronald Jones is there. Greg, what'd you think about this signing? Do you think four net could potentially be a fit in Tampa. I'm not surprised, and I think all the fantasy heads who were tauting Ronald Jones hardcore all preseason deserve what

they got. They should have seen it coming that that rosters well because it became like a trendy thing and saying I like Ronald Jones as a runner too. But if you had to make a list of the teams that were most likely to add a veteran at the end of August to mess up your fantasy ring, it was the Bucks. They sort of telegraphed it, And I

think four Nets fine. I kind of think he makes sense for them as another back because I don't love Ronald Jones Lashawn McCoy backfield, um, but if he was a third or fourth round pick, we wouldn't even be having him, you know, talking about him on the show, because he's just a fine power back that can split up the work, and you just worry a little bit about is he gonna be happy splitting up the work? Is les Sean McCoy gonna be happy being third it

on the depth? Jar? You know arians already said Ronald Jones is our guy, Like is Ronald Jones is gonna be happy if he's not the guy in week three or four. It's it's a lot to deal with. I wonder if it's like it's either Tom Brady has uh, you know, significant influence in Tampa and he's building a backfield that's not that different in a way from New England's where you've got a bunch of guys and you kind of don't know who's gonna do what from week

to week. Or I just think more likely they're not that happy with any of these players, and it's like they're gonna keep looking for answers and they'll probably have, you know, different roles. I mean they already cut they drafted Raymond Calais, who Bruce arians was crowing about, you know when they took him, he got he got released. I mean they got rid of dry Wally, if I'm saying that right, who was a really core special teams

player for them. So I think for Net has a role, but I think it's probably closer to like a goal line type role or like a late game hammer. You make me think Mark though about one of the benefits of Tom Brady is now that now that we kind of talk about, is is for Nett and mcquoie really going to act up with Tom Brady as the quarterback. I do think there is something to the to the leadership and to the effect Brady has in terms of like, look, this is our one year to go win the Super Bowl.

We don't want to mess it up for Tom Brady. Let's just be good team team players. I think, right la Garrett Blunt goes to Pittsburgh and you know, within two months he's he's riding around with Levan Bell smoking weed in a car. He's back in New England, he doesn't he doesn't speak again, and Russia's for like two hundred yards in the playoffs. So I think that effect

is real. Yeah, he was listening everything we hear and there was a report after his cut that he was a knucklehead there and we saw it with some of the antics on the sideline. I think Tom Coughlin was all fired up after a playoff game, was it, or at the end of a game once about some of

his behavior. That stuff's not gonna fly with Brady. I totally agree that if for Net has the ability to make a difference, and West kind of scared me off that corner a little bit with his analysis earlier this week that he's kind of just a numbers compiler and a bit of a plotter as opposed to a dynamic player. Um, maybe that's just gonna be the case. But I think it's a perfect spot for him. Ultimately, let's move on.

The Patriots make an announcement that I don't think surprises anyone, but at the same time, now it's official, and that's interesting. Cam Newton is the successor to Tom Brady, is the starting quarterback of the New England Patriots. Cam who signed a deal this summer well after free agency, coming off the foot injury that ruined his two thousand nineteen season, a couple of shoulder surgeries. But he look good in camp.

We hear, well, we heard a lot of different things in camp, but we heard that he was also a good leader, named a team captain Mark Mark Sessler. Uh, and he is now going to be the Week one QB. I know you're feeling bullish on Cam when he signed. You still feel that way as we approach Week one. Uh, maybe a little bit less because I you know, as you meant and the camp reports were really mixed out of the gate. But that doesn't surprise me that much. I guess my I'm more interested just to see what

this offense will look like. That's gonna be one of the first games I'll go check out in week one. What what is it? I mean, you have a completely different type of player. They died the idea that these names starter. I mean, wasn't this race over like weeks ago when Jared Stidham was, you know, whipping interceptions all over the place and dealing with an injury. I mean, and also like I think that these races, I just look at them as who is this player and who

is that? And why did they bring Cam Newton in? The idea that Cam Newton was going to be on the sideline in week one with cameras panning to him every two minutes. I didn't really buy it. Now, maybe they maybe it was fair to start, had to make it make sure he was healthy, but you're right, once he was, it was really one week and then they started giving him starter reps because they they're trying to get ready, you know, for the season. Belichick actually didn't

announce it publicly when they asked him about it. Friday, he still wouldn't say who the starters, but he told the team who the starter was, so obviously people from the team, and that all got out, like they made the announcement. Cam's our guy, this is who were so funny behind. I mean, he's like, I don't I don't think there's a week inside up Foxborough places. Whatever. You can't keep that, You can't keep that a secret. Plus the reporters kind of let it be known even though

they're not really supposed to that. The last few weeks, Um, look, they've been practicing some option football, Like the the offensive line has been answering questions about, Okay, what's it like to be blocking for for offense, it's gonna have all these r p O s and options and stuff like that. Like it's a totally different idea than when Tom Brady was there. So obviously that leads you to believe they're

they're changing the offense significantly. I love as a as a Patriots fan, the fact that his teammates named him the captain. Uh, it doesn't surprise me at all. I listened to this Spotify um podcast the Ringer made called the Cam Chronicles. It was really well done, and one of my takeaways from it was just the fourth of his personality, um, just as a leader and as a a dude that other football players love to get behind.

I mean, we know he's a big personality in front of the mic, but also behind the scenes in terms of you know, the heart, the work that he does, and just kind of the galvanizing way he's going to get that locker room behind him didn't take him long. Basically, all those dudes just want to play with Cam. Whether it works or not, I don't know, but it's fun to imagine as a Patriots fan, he's almost like the

perfect replacement for Brady because he's not Brady Ask. He's completely different type of player, which means you're not comparing the same offense, but also like he's got that thing about him, that aura, where like all these younger players would to your point, just find it amazing to be in the same offense with Cam Newton. Now, if it has to work, Ricky, you've been bracing this yet or what I mean? I know you're still hung up on the one bad press conference quote, you know, but coming No, No,

it's good. I'm I'm excited. It'll be good. It'll be very interesting. Like you said, I mean, our our offense is it's not that talented exactly, so pass catchers. I think ultimately he feels to me still is he's a bridge quarterback. But that's not a bad thing when you're the bridge is coming from the greatest quarterback ever. And then if Cam, whether he works out or he bombs, then maybe the young guy comes in and he's not getting compared directly to Brady, he's getting compared to the

guy that replaced Brady. Remember the whole thing. You don't want to be the guy who replaces the guy. You want to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the guy. Yeah, that's that's Whoever the next Patriots quarterback is speaking the Patriots and their weapons. Uh, most a new has been released, your boy. I think Tom Curran Greg called him plotting during training camp and fell behind on the depth chart coming off that ankle surgery.

But in terms of Bill part Bill Belichick's personnel record, which is generally sterling, this one was a mega bomb. They gave up a second round to make a Super Bowl run at the trade deadline last October, and it gets the new and now he doesn't even make it to people started lost a fact that it was about pushing to go far last year for a team that you know had a chance at to buy up until week seventeen. It was one of the worst personnel moves of the Belichick air. He's had plenty. I mean they

all have had plenty. Of course, like you're hoping to do like five percent better. He gives up on his mistakes quicker. But man, he he's made some big ones and this is this is up there. I thought they thought they'd get two years out of the New so that you know it wasn't just last year. So to give up a second round pick, which they've blown a million times, taken terrible defensive backs anyways, like Force and

New is a disaster. It really. It reminds me a little bit of the Ocho Sinko signing in trade, which which I always hammer cost them a super Bowl, And um, I don't think this was that costly, but it's it's pretty close. It goes agawn, it goes again. Tonio Bone was a bust. But to me, there's something, Yeah, they didn't they don't have it. They don't have any depth. That's what's going on to keep trying to He's trying

to patch it with veterans and it's becoming expensive. What about the whole pink pony thing though, Mark, He's you know, pink pony is supposed to be Mark's great theory. It's like, oh, these these Patriots operatives go to other places and take advantage, you know, and then feed the pages. Well, how about former Patriots front office uh staffer Thomas Dimitroff, Uh, just you know, crushing Belichick sending them some used goods for a second round pick. He's not getting invited to the

Nantucket cookouts anymore, Dimitroff Belichick. Dimitroff has survived so many ups and downs in Atlanta that there may be a whole different thing going on there in terms of you know, I don't know what what kind of colored pony, you'd

be a red pony down there. There's weird stuff. I mean, I don't I don't kill this Belichick on this one for this one move because I want because i'd want someone that actively is going for it when you're in position to get a buy, had it worked, had you gotten a healthy version of us knew that was Atlanta it would have help. They were stiffing around Emmanuel Sanders though too. When you do think about, you know, the

road not not taken there. Yeah, Greg, I just want to know what you were talking about a little like a minute ago. You said, Antonio Bone. Who's that Antonio Bone? Them? You know Bone? He's actually he's an actor in a film that Greg watches sometimes a bit of a ultimately a bit of a bit of a h A look at me move? I thought, by Belichick, you know, I know, but D like, wait, what's the look at me moved?

Trading for him? I don't even get the joke. It's like here, yeah, here I my depth chart at wide receivers thirty four year old Julian Edelman and the Harry kid who was kind of shaky as hell last year as a rookie and most of new come me off ankle surgery. But here's the thing, Well, you asked me, you asked me to talk. You gotta let me talk. You know the fact that maybe he wasn't moving so

great in training camp and a shortened pandemic training camp. Yeah, let's get rid of him because I want to prove to everyone that I eat my mistakes. And I keep moving that because I'm a tank and there's no reverse gears in this tank. All right, he was your coach for about three hours and those were two. Yeah, you think he's worried about the pr I mean once you got once, you got a stiff, you get rid of him.

You don't keep you don't sign him. You know, it's like, oh, I hope some new signs with somebody will sign with the Jets, like the Marius Thomas and Braxton Barrios, Like, just keep keep getting keep getting out, keep hitting out at me. It's not my fault that it was a terrible trade. I mean you're hitting out at multiple people didn't like, let's beat him hitting out at No. One. That's football analysis, Jack No, no, al Right, next time an Alvin Camara is back on the field with the Saints.

There's been some contract drama there that's kind of tiresome to me. So if you guys want to talk about their deal, which is either happening or not happening, but he's gonna be on the Saints this year. Someone that did get paid is Joe Mixing, who signed a four year, forty eight million dollar extension through four with the Cincinnati Bengals a quick trip into the Bengal Sanctuary here Uh,

Mixing returned to return to the field himself. Remember you had those my you had those migraine headaches, which quickly disappeared after he got paid. So Mixing gets paid, Kamari gets waiting to get paid. Both are playing with their teams right now. Yeah, Mixing deal coincided with, you know, the Kimara news going from you know, interesting to kind of nuclear. I heard some whispers about some things that happened behind the scenes, maybe between Kimara and you know,

his coaching staff. There there is things, but he's back on the he's back on the field. Whispers there's drama, that there's some drap, that there was drama, and then he was gone for four or five days. Malcolm Jenkins, by the way, has been gone from Saints practice too for two weeks. No one is explaining that. I'm a little curious about what's happening there to The Saints have kept some good secrets, but I think Camara gets paid. The Mixing deal just made it harder, and so did

the Christian McCaffrey deal. It's amazing. I think how far Mixing came though. I mean he was kind of, you know, a guy that the Bengals took a lot of grief for signing, and no one's given them grief now for giving him like a four year contract. I mean his domestic violence history is kind of barely even mentioned at this point, and now they're willing to pay him for

four or five years. Yeah. I mean it's and that was a Marvin Lewis you know, draft pick, and the new regime came in and seemed to not veer away. I mean, mixing from an on field perspective fits the offense really well, and it kind of shows you Cincinnati like really slow to do things like this in the past. Um and you're kind of building key players around like

I couldn't see them moving on. But then you suddenly get that quarterback in there and they're like, let's kind of be chiefs ESK and surround Joe Burrow with as much talent as we can long term. I Mean the Sames thing for me is like it's have you I can't remember a team that was like, you know, basically super Bowl or bus for one more season. I mean it's you'd imagine Breeze will not be there next year. Everything is going away. You're gonna really like float into

a thorny NFC South without Alvin Kamara. I mean, if you don't get that done, what are you doing? They're chasing Jadeveon Clowney for the same reasons you know. In other running back news, Adrian Peterson has done with the Washington football team in a move that's kind of a surprise.

They part ways with the uh great running back, now thirty five years old, saves the team two and a half million dollars against the cap, opens up playing time for dudes like Antonio Gibson and Bryce Love and listen all day, Greg out on the street on the eve of Week one? Is this the end? Do you think he catches on somewhere? And where do you think Washington's

field goes from here? I think he'll get a job at some point this year, maybe not before week one, when the when your contract for the whole season is guaranteed. But because he could still run really well last year, he doesn't really make sense though on Washington like a rebuilding team. He's a He's a bit of a progress stopper. Sanu was a progress that when you have talent like Jacoby Myers and Gunner Elschowski. You can't absolute out there

bob stopping that progress. So Peterson really can run well or he did, laughter, he really did, like he was. He was absolutely a better player than Leonard Fournette was a year ago. I mean, I don't even think it's

a question. I think if you just look at like Scott Turner there North Turner's son, the o c that Adrian Peterson despite like they were reporters from the Athletic like five or six days ago, saying that Peterson was an absolute lock and that they thought Bryce Love was the one who would be booted out of off the roster, but he didn't really fit Scott Turner's offense, you know.

And I should know. I once ran into Scott Turner at the airport and I said to him, you know, hey, because after they had been with the Browns, they said, I'm really sorry about what happened in Cleveland. I thought you did a great job. Now I don't know if he did a great job. But he looked at me like h and just like I'm just trying to get on this plane, get out of my face right now.

And it was like one of those like it was like seven twelve in the morning, and I thought I probably shouldn't have, uh, you know, gone forward with that interaction, but just trying to make you know, of such repute, maybe he would feel differently, but maybe just like I would put some respect on your name. You know. I think I said I was from you know, NFL media that which I was much more from NFL dot com back then, but I realized that has literally zero credence

with anyone. So you just used the umbrella NFL media term and like they can imagine that maybe you're just an accountant or work in HR at that point. So you know, it was not a successful conversation. I've always appreciated how aggressive you are in airports when you spot people that you know, you like, you're a guy that will and we just happen with Sam Donald the spring. You will always go up to the person and talk

to them, which is something I would never do. I don't even think I would have done it with Donald. I and I don't say that as like because I don't want to invade their space. It's just I would feel uncomfortable doing it, but cessly don't care. Well Henry once and always kills me about this because he I believe it. He ran into me, like sitting next to Greg Roman, um, and I was just like, my, I guess my thing is like you've you got one chance

to do it, Um, do it. And I got that photo from the bad getting to Sam Donald photo because it looked like I was, you know, Dan should have been Dan. And I told him, I said, like, you know, Dan and Dan's dad on our podcast really love the Jets. And that was another kind of thousand yards stare. So I love that. I mean, that's what you know. How do you just pop in the question out of nowhere after you knocked up Simone? It was like, that's it's a beautiful thing to be that, you know, im Pulse.

I don't think you have the facts in order there, but um, all those things did happen, just not in that order. The best, the best Sessler version of this wasn't at an airport. It was at a highly boozy league event where Mike mccagnen, the then Jets general manager who was on the verge of drafting Sam Donald, was belly up at the bar and Cessler rumbled over there and I see them talking and then all of a sudden, like Mark turns with a big smile and just like

waves me over here. Done, and then we had really nice conversation with Big Mac for ten minutes. I think. Actually the most heightened experience, and you were there too, was Mark Davis, where I attempted to corner Mark Davis for four or five minutes, and he was in a white track suit in like a bowl haircut and you know, two piece in the pot, not a tract suit. The best thing about Mark Davis is he's always in the same outfit at any league event. It's white jeans, not sweatpants.

It's white jeans, maybe zubaz uh. And then it's usually a white long, long sleeved T shirt, usually Raiders apparel. Uh. And then yes, the haircut, which is some is pretty much iconic at this point, like people thought Al Davis is iconic, I think at this point. And then if you read some of the profiles unmarked, does he still have the bubbletop van? Remember that I'm not aware of what's happening with the bubbletop fan at the moment. A right,

Google that Google that? Um? All right? In other news? What else is going on? Oh Josh? Gordon is back with the Seattle Seahawks. They have some depth issues there behind their great one two punch of Locket and Metcalf, so they bring Gordon back in the mix. And the one it hang up here is that Josh Gordon is still suspended. He's been suspended six times overall since, including five times for drug related defenses. He's currently banned for both p E d S and uh, you know, substance abuse.

But that apparently seems to be coming to a potential end because he's on the Seattle roster and we'll see where he is. It's years old. M hmm. It's interesting. They brought in Paul Richardson, who had some decent moments in Seattle for about a week, and they don't have a third receiver. Philip door Set, the former Patriot, was supposed to be that guy. He's been hurt. They have a bunch of injuries. I think if Gordon is the third receiver behind two really talented receivers, it could work out.

I mean, we've had this Gordon conversation a million time, but this as a football player. I also don't think you can count on him to be a star now either. But as a role player. Then then I think that makes sense because I think his play has declined a little bit each time he's come back. And let's just be honest here, you can't count on him period right now.

That that's times, But but what what what what happened was like when he was in the middle of his five or six year high this he would come back in a preseason and look absolutely dominant and then fatal, you know, then then he'd be gone two weeks later. I think that that dominance is not guaranteed on any level, but it's telling that with you know, it's this weekend that you're gonna have about sixties seventy eight wide receivers

set free that they're gonna go with. Josh Gordon is their pick that I mean, they there's there is something so tantalizing about him if he's on the field. I mean, in the Seahawks like to bring back Richardson. Not a lot of teams bring back guys that they parted ways with. The Seahawks are a little different on that front. I just wonder, you know, let's use Dez Bryant as another veteran ride receiver desperately trying to get back in the league.

Is this version of Josh Gordon a better value for the Seahawks than somebody like it does Bryant Antonio Brown, I'll throw his name out there because he's forgotten now, But you can't get Brown for till week nine or ten.

That's the problem. So it's like I think that, you know my answer, yes, could imagine that because when we've seen Gordon, I think he he can still play, And when we saw Daz Last I don't think he could he could still play at that you know what, I don't Obviously I'm not speaking from any inside knowledge on this, But doesn't Antonio Brown with the Pete Carroll Seahawks vibe of them bringing guys that they feel they can rehab and then adding him to a push for a team

that kind of needs a third banana? There, wouldn't that potentially be a great fit for the Seahawks. I can see it. There's probably like a five, maybe four or five teams that I would He makes sense as a player for a lot of teams. But no, But the overall experience, like maybe that happens, you know, five weeks from now or something, and someone pulls the trigger the Raiders are down to wide receiver Tyrolle. Williams placed on injured reserve this week with a torn labram. Uh it

is that's a tough injury and uh he's gonna undergo surgery. Uh, so he cannot return this season. He got a lot of money from Mike Mayock and and John Gruden last year, but it has not worked out. He's twenty he's almost twenty nine. This could be the end of his run, uh in Vegas before it begins. Really, yeah, this was a big loss. I mean, they paid him a ton

of money. And to be you know clear, when you put on injured reserve this week, it's for the season, like you mentioned, Dan, and if if you want to, you know, keep your guys through the fifty three man roster cut, which the deadline is Saturday afternoon. I think if he's on the roster by Monday, then you can start putting players on injured reserve. And the rules are totally different this year. You have an unlimited amount of i R boomerangs, and I think you can do it

for like three weeks because of COVID. So it's the i R rules are totally different this year. If you're putting a guy on now you're saying, you know, he's not gonna be of use to us, but there's gonna be a ton of players on Monday and Tuesday, UM that just have these sort of short term injuries. Maybe an Alston Jeffrey is a good example where okay, maybe we hope you're back in week four or five, but

now we can put you on I Are. We don't have to worry about using up our boomerangs like some teams are gonna end up putting three, four or five players on I ARE a lot of boomerangs, a lot of boomerangs. All right, let's spend through a couple of things, uh, real quick before we head off on a reminder, we have our NFL Network program coming up. We're taping it today at Arizon Fridays Online and then on NFL Network

in the morning. Dwayne Haskins and Tarad Tarad Taylor. You know, Mark and I did a Chargers thing with our buddy Chris Harry the other day yesterday in fact, and uh, I noticed after doing an in depth conversation about uh, the quarterback for the Chargers, that I was calling him Tyrod. But as I think that was corrected a couple of years ago. It's Tarad right, bad job by me, but as coaches don't even say it. I mean, Anthony lenn says Tyrod. So it's it's one of those things that's

he's putting people on the top. Now you know people are gonna have the population is gonna think Tyrode, So you're gonna be dealing with that. Check out. On Twitter, Mark and I both retweeted Chris's tweet we run that Chargers live show. It was fun. Uh the Cowboys release ha ha, Clinton dicks the former Packers safety and uh listen. James later keeps telling all you guys, it's not happening. Earl Thomas is not going to the Cowboys. Just believe her.

She knows what she's talking about. This will come back to bite become Monday's show. She seems to be very confident. She seems very confident that Earl Thomas is not on the way. We shall see. And finally another safety news, the Browns make a move after Grant Delpit toward his achilles. They needed to add somebody else to that room, so enter Ronnie Harrison in a trade. Your thoughts on that one, Mark, Sessler.

I think, you know, the the interesting player kind of Joe Woods, their defensive coordinator, wanted to use delp It kind of all over the place. Harrison, Um who comes cheap too million and over two million over two years, played free safety about forty percent of the time, up in the box thirty one percent of the time, so he can do a lot um Nick Saban loved him

at Alabama. Well, TVD will see. But the takeaway from me is that, Um, you look at the front office and they are not um the type that's gonna go out and jump after Earl Thomas. They're not gonna go jump after like an ex overly priced veteran. I had some people around the team say, like, watch, they're gonna go someone that fits exactly le Brown's model. And I know there's been a billion Browns models, but I really

think this is the best. And Andrew Barry is more the more promising that GM than I've seen in years and years there, and he's stuck to what they want to do. JAG's really putting it taking it down of the screws here. I mean not the Harrison was a star. He just the guy who played a lot for them.

Last year. He's a young player, but man, they're they're getting rid of They do not have many players, especially on defensive, have been there for a while, and I am kind of amazed how little interest Earl Thomas is getting. I don't know what he's asking for financially. I suspect that's that's a big part of it. But it'll be interesting to see if, like Clinton Dix, who's been solid, he never can find a team that believes in him, which is a red flag. But like it'd be interesting

to see if he gets a job before Thomas. No one wants Earl Thomas. That's my take. It feels like girl Thomas has some stink on him. You know, well you got teams hugged up against the cap and you could see him asking for more money coming off a disastrous exit from Baltimore that people are comfortable with. What don't we be hearing that there was some type of conversations happening. Then he's pretty silent. People aren't into it.

I mean that's the thing is like when the Cowboys public or you were saying, well we're looking at it, Well not really. I mean, you made you had your meetings and once it's five three or four or five days out of him being cut. They they decided they're not into him, and all these other teams have decided they're not that into him. Maybe that changes after week one when the contract surr guaranteed or his price comes down. But it's pretty crazy for like a possible future Hall

of Famer who played well last year. It's not like he played poorly. He played played well. All right, that's what's happening in the news. A couple of program notes. Next week begins our you know shift into regular season. Okay, so we're gonna have a show that goes up on Labor Day Monday, and yes, get excited because it will be our Go Get My Lunch Spectacular, hopefully with Chris Westling as well joining us, where we make our predictions

for the season. UH. Thursday will be our preview UH podcast where we break down all the week one games. Thursday night, we will have a mini pod up for you that breaks down Texans chiefs. Can't wait for that.

And then Sunday night, of course, the flagship program, Oh I'm skipping something, our NFL Network program UM will be taken in part from our Thursday audio preview, So if you want to see our mugs on television talking about what we talked about on the Thursday show that will air Saturday mornings on NFL Network and then on Sunday night the Flagship program where we break down every game UH from the week that was, this one being week

one not bad, and then there's other stuff. There's more The old suser has the Power Rankings and the Power Ranking Show with Matt Money Smith Greg You're back with UH game debut your Friday evenings eight pm on NFL Network, And and Ricky's helping out on that show too. She's gonna do some more voiceover UH stuff where she kind of sets up different segments and stuff like that. So it's all happening. Plus we have a stream keeping eye

out on our Twitter accounts. We're gonna try to do some sort of stream on Wednesday, just setting up the opener. It's not gonna be a podcast, but just like a little extra and UH in exchange for leave us a comment and leave us some reviews. We need some more. I saw people responded last time. I appreciated it. I love you all, and Mark, I didn't forget about you and I didn't forget that you were wearing an awesome pink collared shirt and today you're wearing the exact same

collar shirt, only it's blue. I noticed these things, so you know, I have This is the first time I bought shirts in like probably four years. And so what I do is I went into a store, I found one version of a shirt I like, and just bought three colored versions of it. And I was out in eight minutes. And that's how you do it. What's well done? Do you? What do you got cooking this season? You've

got a weekly column, right, weekly column? Um, Eric and I have a little fantasy thing that might hit the scene a little bit later today or soon, and TVD on some other stuff. What is that? You'll say? That's called the plug? Little little like twitter cup gake out there for you to eat. Take a little bite out of it, do it? That's not uh, I don't know if if you know, this households about to combust. So I mean, you know, we'll see where we are three

weeks from now. I'm not feeling ultra confident about the smoothness of the whole journey here. And one more thing, boys and girls, this has nothing to do with us but it has something to do with one of our very favorite people at NFL Media, the great Steve Wish, And I'm gonna let him explain it to listeners that might not know about his new venture. Steve, Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. I like you on every week and not getting paid for it. I love it.

What's up in the podcast game? Now, guys? The podcast game? I gotta tell us a little bit about it. Yeah, Jim Trotter and I are gonna be having a podcast debuting September eighth, the Huddle and Flow Podcast that name. Yeah, you like that A little little sample part of it, you know, to to Howard Alums on the podcast stampling from the movie where Howard Alums, Anthony Anderson and to Roggi p Henson are two of the key stars the Hustle and Flow, there's a nice little connecting of the

dots right there. But yeah, I mean, so, Jim and I, you know, we we've we've had more more than forty years of covering the NFL. Uh. You know, as I said to Howard Alums, you've got a lot of experience. Um, it's not often you get two guys from the same school, but also two guys in the same historically black university. So we're gonna be coming at this with a kind of, hopefully a unique perspective on covering the NFL with the pop culture and social issues going on around it. And guys,

our debut September eight. Who've got Ron Rivera, the head coach of the Washington football team on there, and we've recorded it, and all I can say is, I have the headline writers ready because there's a lot of stuff in here, um that nobody's heard before. It goes back to our relationship with Ron and his and his trust and candor in us. But this is to nice little dive and it's one of the things that are going there. Even used to call up the news desk. You know

how this thing works. He should give him a copy. Help out the NFL media, nfl dot com, and help out yourself. They'll have some headlines ready for once that thing hits up. To think about the game, Now that you're getting into the pad, you're competing with us, you gotta think a couple of steps ahead here. Why Greg, let me tell you something. You're in my contrials, baby, because it's already been done. There already been done, Steve. I'll try to, you know, build report versus just blowing

the whole thing up here. Uh. You know they talk about you guys or people they would say reporters with deep rollodex is when is the last time you actually on a desk or had a rolodex. I just feel like, um, you probably shifted your deep list of contacts to online at this point. Great report builder here? You know what I'm you know what here? Here's what I'm gonna say. Did you guys are big in a pop culture? I'm kaiser so say brother? Al right here, all right here,

no need for the rolodex. Can't leave any evidence laying around for chat commentary to finally catch up towing get it's all right here. I hope that means you're not Kevin Spacey too, and you're just sticking to the character portrait. Okay. I mean whe is peaking right now. Wie's guns on the artwork, having a moment podcast. He's having a moment. It's like, I think what it is. It's his second peak. He he had the climb, he had the climb to the summit of the industry. But you've got a lot

of kids in the house. You're dealing with them now, the kids, and I know the quarantines changed that up a little bit here and there, but the kids are mostly taking care of themselves. They're into college. It opens up the time. And now Wie is just peeking again. We gotta wait until our kids go to college for that second peak, Mark and Dan for the first one. I wonder where the dip is. Well, we're just hanging out at the top of the mountain for now, but

now you're going up another mountain. But I have to say this, man, you guys, the you know, the lane you guys carved out and showing you know, me and so many others on how to really articulate this podcast game to really kind of cultivate an audience and build an audience. It's amazing what you guys have done. You know, I love you guys. You're just great human beings. But again, what you've done in the in the sports, in the NFL podcast world and kind of bringing your own personalities

and your pop culture references and everything into it. We just hope that you know, after a couple of years, if you get that much time, because you know, typically black people only get one shot before they're fired. If you get that much time to build, you know, something to what you know you guys have crafted. You know, I hope, I hope, you know, to really live up to the expectations you guys have said. Well, I came

away from art, thank you. I came here from our NFL summit thinking that maybe you alone feel that way about our show. But uh, that's for another time. So yeah, how about how about that. Let's let's open the world to the great franchise that we're building here. Uh, build some homes. Steve Wise, you know that we love you

and this podcast huddle and flow. Absolutely, we'll get the a t N podcast seal of a approval and we look forward to hearing that rivera interview and maybe even ripping some sound bites out of it and talking about it on this show, and of course having you back on against Steve and maybe Jim down the road as well. Best of luck in the podcast game. Thanks. So, I can't wait to have you guys on. It would be a spectacular show that sounds break All right, that's it

for the Friday show. Let's sign off. I asked Ricky just to type in Hustle and Flow in the NFL Media Library and see what song came up. So we're gonna play out with that as a little not to Steve's new show. Maybe it could be his theme song. I don't know. That's his call with Jim obviously. But let's sign off now. This is Dan Hanson signed off with the Great Steve Weisch, the old Boss. M hmm. This is Hustle and Flow. This isn't the movie. That's

just our libraries version. The thumbs down from Steve, uh, the Quiet Storm and Ricky Hollywood until Monday. This is bad Time STA stay and turn back. Stays, stays the way, The Total Battle BA