Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't know which day of the week it is. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come to you from the virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal. But is up boys? Hey now? Championship week? Good week? I mean Greg is pumping his arms left and right. It's uh if you were able to if you're not watching this on YouTube, it's quite a sight. You gotta do sometimes give yourself the energy
if you're not feeling it right at the beginning. Yesterday was the I do know what day it is, it's Tuesday, um, and yesterday Monday. I feel like it was the first time we hadn't seen each other in about a hundred and ninety seven days, so Phil totally refreshed, like really miss you guys. It's uh yeah, I mean we spent all Saturday and Sunday together on Sky which was a
delight to do. But it is it's been a lot of um and from my p o V a lot of Greg and Dan um and from yours a lot of of me, which is if if it's if I'm to measure the way that my household is responding to me. I don't think that people are wanting more. They're wanting maybe just a little bit less. What was the vibe in the household after the Browns went down on Sunday?
I imagine obviously supportive. Do you think there was a part of Simone who was obviously not rooting against the Browns but relieved to have that tension out of the house. Because sometimes you mark, you do bring a level of tension, and I imagine when the Browns are in the playoffs it has to be at another level. Well, I there were really only a couple of Super ten tense moments, and the first was the Steelers game, which was largely celebratory. Um,
but the Chiefs one. I would say that my like, you know, take on the whole thing and it meets stomping around the house was a lot less because it was I wasn't expecting necessarily the team to win. I just wanted to see what happened, and um, you know, we're doing the sky thing at the same time. So I wasn't like a raving nightmare according to me, I I don't think I was. It's more like coming off your pores and than what you actually are outwardly doing.
It's just sort of an energy of which I'm sure Simone has a better sense of than any human, not even Game day necessarily, but just that general like Godzilla when you see the scales in his back have the radiational electricity buzzing on them that going on from Sunday to Sunday. I wonder if there's a difference in mark and your demeanor and just the way you're hardwired now
compared to last Tuesday. It's possible, I will say that if if she were to probably compile a list of annoyances, um like the couple of times we watched the Browns game, wouldn't crack the top twenty. There are other larger things to be tackled there. How is everyone's marriages, by the way, let's let's dig into that before we get into today's show.
Because mine, I would say, remains strong, too, very strong, with periods of um icy tension that is all born out of like you think we see each other too much, uh the other all the other hours that we're not talking into our computers, uh we're with our wives. That this has been um quite a study. Like they they will they will study the amount of human interaction within your pods for centuries to come off this. How how
are the marriages. Let's say it's fine. You know, they go and find that the whole like not being able to leave leave Los Angeles in the country. Um. In the case of my wife who wants to visit her family in Japan and stuff, you know that that's more of attention. So maybe i'm I'm blamed a little bit for bringing her to this this city. Um. But I was trying to make the case. I was like, would you rather be in New York when everything's falling, where
everything's falling apart? Come on, you're a hero on that front. I I liked your description dance strong with moments of iciness and um issues. But I think we try to keep a sense of humor to some degree. I'm, i'm. My concern is like for our kids who have like no friends. You know it just said, I don't like thinking about that as much. Let's bring in Ricky Hollywood too. I mean, she is in a relationship with jet a wonderful woman, and uh, you guys aren't married, maybe you
will be down the road. Has has this pandemic? Drew you closer or are you pushed apart to the point where this thing is on the rocks. Um, I wouldn't say necessarily on the rocks, but it's definitely much worse. Is the only one keeping it real? Right, Yeah, it's it's this. This is hell, this is hell. Oh man. I'd like to say, we're almost there. We have a new president coming in. There's there's going to be changes, uh to the protocol. Hopefully the vaccination process speeds up
and and we're heading toward better times. There is no Scouting combine. You want to talk about how much things changed last year. We were all at the Scouting Combine the last February, which, really, if you want to be real, it's probably like a super spreader event. It was nobody's faulcause nobody really understood what was going on where it's going to be a totally different setup this year with combine it's mostly virtual with local pro days. Um. Just
another example of how the world has changed. Well, we've now made it through to the point where events are getting gonna get canceled for a second time. The combine is like literally is like the last possible thing that happened, and there are some I can think of, you know, other sports, tennis, and I like where things are getting canceled for a second time around, like we've we've been
through that. Yeah. Like the last time I went out to dinner with people was with Dan, Colleen and Erica at that pizza place on that snowy night, And I have tons of video footage of that, which I sent out an abbreviated clip of Dan in the snow because when I initially sent it out, um, I didn't realize that Colleen dropped like a tremendous s bomb in the middle of it, and I didn't think she probably wanted
that to go out there without my permission. But I've got lots of other footage to share with you behind us, will you guys miss most about not going to the combine, taking care of Erica and making sure she goes back to her hotel room to get well. Yeah, the nights, maybe the I love when there's like three coaches talking at the same time and I'm responsible to know what all three said, and there's they're like sixty yards apart. It's wonderful. I mean, we're not in the coal mine
here almost it's almost nothing. I you know if I'm happy, it's I've gotten for sixteen straight years or something. I don't want to go. You always have like a quaint little dinner with like always some friends friends that that is what you missed. But I wouldn't mind if they move locations next time around. I wanted to see Robert Sala Sala Sala up close and personal at the podium, but maybe that will have to wait for another year.
Who knows, everything can change, Yeah, you don't know. All right, we got a lot to get into um today. We have a guest, and a really good one. He's one of the great Buffalo Bills of all times, Steve Tasker, who now is a major force up there in the media game in Western New York. You know him also from his time at CBS uh SO. Steve Tasker will join us on the podcast to talk about the Bills, what's going on up there in Western New York right now and as they prepare for the a f C
Championship game against the defending champion Chiefs. But before that, there's a lot of news to get to. Some things that happened at the end of last week and we didn't get a chance to get to it because obviously Sunday was all about game talk and things that are happening. Is this week unfold, so let's hit the news, Ricky. Everybody always asked what was due? And you know, we didn't have a health Wait, coach b a, he had a health He said, we some mother who gonna find
a way to win the game. I love that quote from Devin White and uh, Bruce Arians one of those coaches. It runs me in some ways Rex Ryan and at his peak where the team could take on the identity of the coach and Bruce Arians like, man, we're just gonna be the m efforts that are gonna win the game. That's our identity. I like that players buy into that. And Devin White certainly did with a unbelievable performance this weekend.
And and I didn't even consider the Bruce Arians. Like he's been on the edge of retirement a couple of times. You wonder if he could ever get to the Super Bowl as a head coach for the first time and even win it, whether whether he'd want to continue well, and my reports that he you know, and this was a year ago, not this year, that he seemed tuned
out and not there presently are no longer. Um, they weren't factual then and they're definitely not factual when they went in well, I will say, when they were going into their by at the end of November on a losing streak, I think you started to text a little bit about that again. Then he's starting to look a little checked out again. Maybe it's just how he looks on the sidelines to me. Sometimes maybe it's it's a it's a poor read on my part. All right, let's
get into it. Let's art with the big soap opera unfolding down there in Houston. Um, we have been tracking this. DeShawn Watson, he might want out. The superstar quarterback for the Texans, is very unhappy with the direction of the organization. Um, where things are, where things stand in terms of ownership and the hiring of the new general manager, and of course Jack easterby his involvement and cal McNair, if he's going to keep his quarterback in the building, is going
to have to pull off something special. Uh. And there is, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, growing sentiment that Deshaun Watson has played his last snap for the team. Greg this is like again there's no way people, no way the Texans want to trade Deshaun Watson. There's no way, because he's that good. This is a Hall of Fame level talent, a coming off another incredible scene. And but in our league one that doesn't matter. If you can't keep your
superstar happy, he holds the leverage. So unless they can convince this guy that this is still the place to be, he will be moved and it will become one of the blockbuster trades of the century. That's all true. And as Sunday morning hit with the Schefter reports and Watson, you know, sending out a tweet that he was at a two and now he's at a ten. You know, Schefter had tweeted something basically the exact same right before it,
so we know where his sources are. Um, you see them pushing and that you know, even if they fired Jack easter Be, that wouldn't satisfy um Deshaun Watson, because ultimately it's about cal McNair, the owner, and unless the owner fires himself, there's not gonna be a lot of faith. I still even then thought, Okay, this is becoming more serious. My skepticism of whether this could actually happen. UM is
starting to you know, thaw. And yet here we are on Tuesday, and we already see maybe the beginnings of a way for them to UM have some reconciliation. Watson sends out a tweet saying, you know, I've been having to try some to have some patience. I told my mama she should prey on it. I mean, and we're still so far away from when any of this would happen.
You you do wonder they have not, you know, hired their coach yet the off seasons truly still at least a month away and even longer than before when he would have to be traded. It just it seems like a long time for them to try to make make it up to him. But UM teams have got teams like the Jets that should be out there getting those packages ready, and maybe they'll they'll make such great offers that the Texans will just have to listen. I think you've got to see who they hire a coach, UM.
But from another angle, I mean, when relationships in general just become fractured sometimes it's just, you know, Deshaun Watson has lost the trust. If he doesn't trust this organization, UM it's hard just to get that back by hiring a head coach, no matter who it is. I mean, there are a lot of stories through history of like leaders who I don't think truly feel to be themselves to be leaders. And that kind of might be Cal McNair, who's you know, somewhat thrust into this position listening to
the wrong people. And I think he's been listening to the wrong people. And Jack Easterby is one of the wrong people. And the process, um, I mean it's you know, you've got to do some work to totally disenfranchise your franchise quarterback. And they've done the work, um, and they're in a really rough spot. And you know, Nick Kissario taking this job, I mean, he's walked into a hurricane and and I don't know if he's going to be
able to tone this thing down. And suddenly, if you get really attractive packages um of draft picks and players coming at you, uh, maybe you have to start looking at it from the other side. But this is a an organizational meltdown. I'm gonna it's it's nuclear, That's what it is for Houston, and they have to figure out out a way to keep this from becoming a nuclear disaster and kind of like yes, kind of like that. And by the way, I have to say, mark Um,
I'm gonna steal it for the Zoos Gazette. I'm sorry, but that's just the way this game works in the tabloid journalism game. Disenfranchise quarterback. Nice headline to get into the Deshaun Watson mess. And yes, the Jets are a team that people are connecting dots on. They make a lot of sense because they have two first round picks and each of the next two years they have a need at quarterback. Potentially they are starting over with a
new head coach. Uh and listen, this is a Jets team that has struggled to find a franchise quarterback for almost fifty years, so he makes a lot of sense. In fact, there's a website or a sports book, uh, sports betting, a g that has set odds for Deshaun Watson have the Jets to top at two to one, like pinch me. I mean, it's a no brain or And I've seen I've seen some talk out there amongst Jets fans. Well, you know, they have so many holes. You should take all this draft capital that you have
and use that to plug holes and get the roster better. Okay, and they might end up doing that because it's gonna be hard to get Watson if he truly is on the market. But if you have a chance to get a twenty five year old generational superstar quarterback, you go get him, and you pair him with a good head coach, which we believe Robert Sala will be, and the GM that you trust, and then you figure things out. Don't get caught up in draft capital. I I I think
you go forward. But the other the other teams that um according to that one book, Jets Dolphins at three to one, Bears at four to one, Broncos at five to one, Colts eight to one, Pats eight to one, Eagles tend to one, Panthers twelve to one. There are a lot of teams that can put together a competitive offer. And oh, by the way, Greg Deshaun Watson holds a no trade clause. That's such a huge factor, and that does give him some leverage, you know, if they actually
wanted to make a move his contract too. I mean, he's almost worth too much to me, Like he's only do ten million dollars next year. So so yeah, yet you're the cap figure is gonna explode. I think it's even the year after that. But even then it's the thirty five thirty seven, which is what the top quarterbacks end up, you know, getting, But for at least one you're getting, you're paying them like like a decent right guard,
because the Texans already paid that bonus. So I think it would take like three, you know, three or four first, including one of those top couple of picks. And and even then I just got to I just can't believe the Texans would be so dumb um and uh maybe Watson will just push the matter, but it's because it's never happened in the hit through the NFL, and it hasn't there there is no precedent for a quarterback like
this getting traded at this point of his career. That's why I kind of in the end, you know, I know that that book, for instance, it's not that is a I mean, he gets traded. They're not showing the odds of him staying. And that's still what I would what I would bet, but I would I would say that the Jets where they were three weeks ago to now um is seismic in terms of their chances to be the frontrunner for that kind of a trade. I mean,
Watson is a Robert Salo fan. You gotta know he's got players telling them Salo would be awesome for you. There's a couple he I think he wants to be, you know, closely linked with his head coach, and he feels like that's just not necessarily to happen the way that he wanted in Houston, and the Jets to me, um leap frog every other team because of what they offer and because of who they hired. You gotta think
of who's trading him too. Is his relationships are important and and um, you know Casario coming from the Patriots. It's it's interesting that he's the one that holds the key here now they made some trade since Joe Douglas popped up there the Jets and the Patriots also has you know, close relationship with with the Dolphins and stuff like. Sometimes it comes comes down to that it's no income tax in Texas, no come text in Florida. Playing in
South Beach a big difference from Floren Park. So you can see why the Dolphins would be very attractive, uh for Watson. I think That's a big part of it too. Is Deshaun Watson, if he does get moved, does he want to go to a team that's an immediate Super Bowl contender kind of go the traded NBA superstar route or is he down to go somewhere where he believes in the coaching staff and the potential of the team.
That's a big part of it. If ever, there was time for Pink Pony to step up, Mark, this is it back to New England, Cassario, it's p I mean, if you want to talk about people storming various public places there that will be occurring, there is no yeah. I I mean, I would be shocked he he didn't like being under the thumb of Bill O'Brien, who learned everything he knew from Bill Belichick. I would think that Deshaun would put the Kai bosh on us. So you know what this really is about the gm APP. This
is the impact prime moment for the gm APP. Every team, well us about outside the teams that have the true superstar quarterbacks should be in this derby and what they should all be doing is just getting on that app and saying, here's our offer for Deshaun Watson. And then it's up to the brain trust up there to decide down there in Texan to to decide, Okay, that's enough, We're gonna keep tracking it. That would be crazy. That would change everything. If he went to the Jets, that
would change everything. All right. Now, let's get on the coaching carousel starting to fill out. Now, let's start with the Chargers. H they raid the Rams cupboard and they hire former defensive coordinator of the Rams, Brandon Staley as head coach. We touched on this quickly on the Sunday Night Show. UH one year as d C for Stanley for Staley, but he interviewed so well, he knocked the socks off the Chargers, who see him as their version of Sean McVeigh. A young quarterback to get behind NFL,
young head coach to get behind NFL Networks. Tom Pallisera also reported that Rams offensive coordinator Kevin O'Connell is a candidate to take over the same position with the Chargers. Why would he make a neutral move mark because Sean McVeigh is still the g As they say, when it comes to well, nobody says that calling plays for the Rams. This would give O'Connell the chance to lead an offense led by Justin in in a delicious update to this um. It kind of gives the l A football teams a
little bit of New York type of big brother little brother. Um. The Rams have declined permission for to speak with Kevin O'Connell. So I love that. It's a little bit petty. It's a little bit um. You know, you're not taking our guy. But to go back to Brandon Staley, I mean the first person that Brandon Staley really blew away in this process with Sean McVeigh when they met UM for this to happen a year ago, and that McVeigh basically just said, this guy is every thing that he saw on himself.
And you know it went on into the into the off season with all these zoom calls, guys like Michael Brockers saying that he that Staley just was. It's so impressive in such a great teacher and tactician and explainer of process. UM. But I think these new coaches you're seeing this and it's Salah, it's Staley. You have to
be a communicator. And his players loved him, and so I think the quick rise um is not to me an aberration or something that, Um, I don't know if it's I think in the past was like these coaches have to go through the process of being a coordinator for six, seven, eight years. It's like not anymore. If they've got it, they've got it. And I mean he he was, this is an obsessive coach. He was obsessed
with Vic Fongio. He basically told McVeigh, I've studied you so much, straining quorder on me, and you know I would go read if you're wondering if you're a Chargers fan. Jordan Rodrigo wrote an excellent piece on him in September. Robert Mays on The Athletic also wrote a great piece. I mean I started to you know, when I start to fall for these coaches, Um, it started to happen a little bit when I got to know a little
bit more about him. I think he's a really interesting higher and a sharp right turn from the Anthony Lynn way of doing things, going into games, game day, coaching, all of it. We'll see four years removed from being like a position coach at John Carroll. It's pretty wild. I mean he is thirty eight, so he's older than McVeigh. By,
you know, by a little bit. I I think the whole thing though, is if you're hiring the defensive coach and you've got the franchise at quarterback, what are you doing with Justin Herbert and maybe his first choice O'Connell just got squashed. Um, I wouldn't be surprised if he
interviews and and keeps the staff that's there. Knowing the Chargers, you know, you know they're they're already, they're already, they're already playing, they're already paying Shane Stike and Pet Hamilton, the QB coach who did such a good job with her I don't hate that choice either. Actually thought they might be a nice higher that that l a crew up in Seattle if if the Seahawks are But but
that's everything. It's a big risk. You know, it's a great defensive team on on paper, and hopefully Staley is a true like you know leader. Um. But I do think there's probably some people in the Rams it's like, man, you can't get your own stadium, you can't develop your own coaches. You gotta take our coach. There's there's a wrinkle here too. There was a rule change in the NFL, where UH teams could not could no longer block position
coach interviews for coordinator jobs. However, that does not apply when there's a lateral move involved, so Sean McVeigh had the option here to block O'Connell, which he did. Albert Brier reported that the lines of communication are open between the two teams on this, so there's still a chance
it ends up with O'Connell getting that job. But it's also equally possible that the Rams are already a little ticked off and they'll be like, you know, go fly a kite, as they say, all right, other news, let's keep spinning that carousel. Ricky Hollywood Arthur Smith is the new head coach of the Atlanta Foulkins, and he will be calling the plays UH in Atlanta. Of course, it comes over after a really fantastic run with the Titans, with that great, great Tennessee offense with Derrick Henry and
run Tannehill. Now he'll be tasked with maximizing the potential the Falcons attack, which has some really big time talent on it. It makes me think, Greg that I think about it. I know Matt Ryan's getting older now and there's a lot of talk about his future, But don't you kind of want to see what Arthur Smith can do with a Matt Ryan led offense with Ridley and Julio Jones and hopefully they you know, upgrade in the
backfield and see where that offense can go with different leadership. Yes, and and I think the Falcons are planning on it. That was my huge takeaway from Smith press conferences. You know, he spoke about Matt Ryan and and and maximizing what Matt Ryan does well in a very definitive way. That indicated Matt Ryan will definitely be on the team, which
is not a surprise eyes based on their contracts. Now, maybe you know, maybe they still draft someone and you know, it's year to year, let's see how he looks um But to me, the way he what he did with Ryan Dannehill, I think you have I think even at Matt Ryan's age, you have as much or more to work with with Matt Ryan. And I think that's one of that's probably the reason they hired Arthur Smith. I'm
with you. I mean, they are twenty four million over the cap, they have only thirty one players under contracts, so it's not the easiest of landing spots. But so I don't think you move away from Ryan. I you know, Arthur Smith may not be the guy that I think when we when these hires happen, it's like who who is really entertaining, who grabs our attention in the press conference, And he's not that guy necessarily. I think he's you know, he's kind of noted for his um demeanor, his intelligence. Uh.
And I do like this. I know everyone talks about the fact that he's the son of Fred Smith, the FedEx founder. His quote was, I've never mistaken his success for minus my success, and his kind of his creator to his players has dropped the entitlement and earn your job. I mean, there was you know a lot of this is coach speak, but I think Arthur Smith, Um the Lions were really wanted to get in a second interview with him, So something must be going on well with
these interviews, and I think there is. Um He was with the Titans through so many different regimes. He started under Mike Munchak in two thousand and ten. It says something when these new coaches come and they want to keep you, And I thought it came in and did an excellent job as offensive coordinator, so you know, interesting higher I I want to see what he can accomplish with Matt Ryan m I don't think greg is Gregory.
I don't know if you're as high on him as I am, but no, I just know I'm I'm high. I it's it's Arthur Smith that bothers you now I have. I don't have a strong take. I think he did a really good job, so it's worth the shot. Um, the the entitlement thing, you know, I want an offensive coach and like the entitlement thing. Okay, it's like I think this is where you talk about like coaches getting chances.
You know, you know that when normally you know, he he started his career in part because because of his dad, and and then he made the most of it. You know, he worked for a team where his dad was the minority owner. That's how he got into the NFL. Like he started college football at a place where his dad is like a huge donor. But then he proves that
that he's great. But it's the type of thing that if you're if you're someone without those advantages, of course you think about I do like that he's bringing DNPS out of retirement. Looks like old Dan Pas love that guy, and the Titans defense went down to hill pretty fast. So as usual, these coaches are only retired until they get like a nice next offer, right, and Arthur Smith obviously is their credentials based on what he did last year.
But this is a conversation that is that's continuing in the league about opportunities for minority head coaches, and you're not seeing this cycle being flooded with hires of minority coaches. Now you know there's two laughs, Yeah, there's still more. Enemy seems to be a strong candidate for the opening jobs. But so far, you're you know, we're not basically singing to the progress. The process is a total flop from that angle so far. And we can see what happens
with the final two. But I mean all year long, it was Eric b Enemy is gonna grab one of these coaching vacancies. Everyone's gonna rush to to grab him, and it's been the opposite. I don't know what's happening um in the interview process, but I mean there is like the NFL cannot love this look. I mean, they have to have the opposite of loving it. Okay, in
other news. Okay, so this happened late last week. Robert Sala Sala Sala Sala is the new head coach of the New York Jets, and I obviously feel so excited about this. He is a heavenly choice, Um, compared to what we're dealing with. Sal, So, is that who I think it is? I think it is. I think it is who you think it is, the great La Sid with the pipes. I mean, what a what a singer she is. Um, you can't give Nick Shook the nickname pike pipe when Um, she's singing that way. I mean,
we already had issues with the Nick Shook. She's pipes pluralized. He's just the pipe. There. There is a very big difference, and we don't have time to dig into that because we've got to talk about the new look Jets with Robert Sala. Um. This is a total one eighty for the Jets of so excited. Even the photos they tweeted out. Uh, he officially signed his contract with the Jets to become head coach, and he's wearing the Jets hoodie and he's got the big smile and it's like this guy looks
like he's he should have been. He's been the Jets coach forever and ever. It just looks right, it feels right. It's totally different than Adam Gaze, who, by the way, report out there that he he was under some consider duration for the Seahawks offensive coordinator job. If you ever got him back in the same buildings, Jamal Adams, that would be to me more exciting and making me more happy that higher in New York. I just think there's so much that Jets have to do to get to
get really back on track. And I am loving life right now because it's been so long since the Jets fans got a W. Robert sala is a W mark. He he's a guy that we don't know if he's gonna be able to play the guitar in the head coach role, but damn, it feels like he's the right guy. And and you saw Dani Rolovski at VSPN tweeted yesterday, you know he's pumped up about the assistant coaches that Salives bringing in, including Michae la Floor who's going to
be the O. C Uh. It just feels like they hit on something here, and um, I can't wait to see where it goes from here. But I think the La Flora thing is huge because it gives your parents salads, defense and what it will be and wants to be with an offense that meshed really well with it in
San Francisco. And I think that the idea is you know, not you know Shanahan two point oh, because this is a very different type of coach, but some from you know, some familiarity with that in some familiarity with what San Francisco accomplished. Um, I love it. I think we've we've talked about this on our network show. I think this is a fascinating, fantastic higher for the Jets, and they nailed it. I mean, you know, there were a couple other names that came up in the Jets search that
really concerned me. Um, just because I think they needed to do something so fresh and new. And I talked about communication and that is the wave for me of new coaches, and I think Solid brings that and look at yeah, will he succeed right away? Um, it's a tall order. But you've got Quentin Williams, You've got Marcus May there. If they resign him, I'm sure that's a priority for them. And I just love I love the
departure point. Um. I think that there's gonna be some patients because everyone understands that he's inheriting something of a train wreck. Except there's a lot to like with what they can do quickly with the picks. It doesn't totally um. It reminds me a little bit of teams like Cleveland, where the right coach came at the right time when there were a lot of draft picks and a lot of potential young talent on board. I think it's a good marriage and solid me is what the Jets needed
in so many different ways. I am genuinely happy for you. Um. I think it's you're gonna see market changes right away. It's not that unusual when a new coach comes in and changes everything that The Jets, to me, could be a team that I want to get ahead of myself. But they should have had more wins than they had all along under Gates, and I don't think they're as far away as some would some would think. I I totally agree, and I I think the process is the key.
When was the last Jets coach, GM Perry, and that didn't seem like it had a ton of potential for dysfunction from minute one, maybe Rex and Mike Tannenbaum, although you can even look into the way that that works
through ownership and everything. Joe Douglas picked Sala. I'm sure ownership was part of it too, but ultimately, you know, I'm gonna assume the reports that say Douglas was leading this are right, and that's the most important thing to me, UM, because Douglas seems like like a solid guy who's gonna build this organization, and Sala has a real staff. Now,
it's interesting that the forty Niners promoted Mike McDaniel. There there's some thought, you know, to offensive coordinator that like, you know, they sort of got to keep you know, who knows, like they kept McDaniel and La Fleur goes they were only going to be able to keep one UM and everyone seems to love Michael Fleur, And I think that offense UM at least if you don't take a quarterback number two and you don't get DeShawn Watson.
I don't totally buy like that they're all in on Sam Donald, but I do buy that they are giving themselves the opportunity that that might be one of the things they do is look at what Sam Donald looks like in this offense, because I think the best he looked, I thought was really his rookie year, especially for a rookie in a different non gaze offense. And so if if you don't right and if you don't fall in love with just A Fields and you don't get Deshaun Watson,
is that going to be part of it? And rich to media. ESPN reported that Sala Sala Sala and La Floor believe that Donald has quote untapped potential. I I try, I'm trying to stay kind of even killed with Donald because I I always fall hard for the next Savior Jets quarterback, and I know he's put a lot of bad football on tape, So I'm trying to, like, I really do want to see him get one more shot, uh and do it with better coaching and hopefully a
better roster. At the same time, I would not hesitate to go get de Shaun Watson if I could, But would I rather have Donald and give him a shot with the staff and of the draft picks to build around him, or take a chance on another rookie. Man, I'm not really the guy to ask us. I don't know how good these top process, but I know they don't have Trevor Lawrence, which would have been a no brainer. So I'm more into staying Sam if you don't get Watson. But there's so much to be uncovered on that end.
It's the next big decision for the jet. But for the first time in a long time, I feel like you could trust the people making the decisions. I think you can. Yeah, I wanted to throw throw in there too. I mentioned the GM process in part, like like in contrast to Atlanta, which we didn't mention, which you know, it's fine, Arthur Blank hired Terry Fontineau, who looks like a promising GM from New Orleans, and he hires are Arthur Smith, and they're going to be attached to the hip.
But I like, I like the idea that like these guys, you know, they one chose the other. In Atlanta, it's like they're basically strangers meeting um and the owner hired in both and that's sort of how they're reporting through. And that to me is always a little tricky. That seems like it just create will create friction where you've got both of them trying to vie for the owners um favor, and that's we've seen this play out poorly ten thousand times alright in other carousel news, Yes it happened.
Urban Meyer is the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He takes over a team it's coming off a one and fifteen. But yes, they have the number one overall pick and everything that comes with that. Um, we don't know what the their GM situation there right now, but urban Meyer is gonna be the boss. There's no doubt about that. And Scott Linahan is being interviewed for their o C opening Urban Meyer Jacksonville Jaguars. Greg, is this a home run marriage to you? No, not a home run.
I think it's exciting. You know, fans never want to hear about um that their new head coaching hiring isn't like gonna be a home run. But how how can you assume a guy that's never coached in the NFL where there's sort of nebulous who has finals say on the roster um kind of chatter with whether it's ownership or whether it's urban Meyer. But you know, ultimately urban
Meyer is gonna have a lot of power. And then Scott Lenahan is the first guy that pops up as the guy like you want to bring in right away. That doesn't to me inspire a ton of um excitement. I mean, he's been he's always had the advantage of having much better players than the than the opponent. That's the whole thing of being a college coach and coming to the pros. It's not gonna happen. It's the opposite.
Instead of Ohio State having way better players than every single team on their schedule until they've los in the playoffs, you know they they're gonna have inferior players for the most part. It's gonna be close, but they're gonna you know right now that Jacksonville Jaguars don't have great players.
I mean, what I would say for Urban Meyers that yes, he had those advantages in college, and yes he won with I mean, you know there are college coaches out there that have a lot of talent that don't get it done. I mean, he's been a winner. Um My question would be how long is this going to last? And I mean, you know, Urban Meyer has had some health issues in the past him. I'm not really leaning
on that with this. It's just that he's also got up and walked away from from jobs when I don't know if, if, if he had accomplished enough there, he felt like the challenge was elsewhere at some point, um he said he spent you know, a long long time, um, diagnosing and studying the NFL to determine if he thought
he could go and succeed there. I think that he doesn't want for determination um and probably UM, a part of him wants to show yes, Like any coach that's successfully, I want to go to the NFL and show I can do it there. Um. I think he has the innate coaching talent to do it from what we've seen. But to me, this is a higher that I just sort of want to sit back and watch because I
don't have a huge hot take here. I I would love it, love it content wise though, to be clear, Like I love that he is content joining the NFL because super good, good or bad. It's totally intriguing and his offenses are fun to watch. You wonder if if they go three and thirteen instead of two, one and fifteen,
and they don't have Trevor Lawrence locked and loaded. Uh, if he takes that job, it might be to him it's a perfect setup enter the NFL with this potential generational talent, and we all know that the NFL highway is littered with the carcasses of college hot shot coaches who couldn't hack it. Uh my erk though, could just as easily be an example of a college coach that just came in and and got better. So you know you're excited if you're a Jaguars fan, because they've made
they made a huge splash hired head coach. They're gonna make a huge splash draft pick at number one overall, and now you can start to piece it together. I wonder what happens now with your boy. By the way, Mark does urban Meyer like the mustachioed one. Is he in the building anymore? I mean, I don't think the discussion is about in the building. Possibly, but as a starter, I think those days have come to a close based
on where they sit. I mean, the London fans, assuming they can travel next year, they gotta be excited, uh, a little more juiced coming over or sees absolutely Trevor Lawrence and everything. It's a game changer in Jacksonville, all right. In other coaching carousel news, Dan Campbell, you remember Dan Campbell, He took over years ago when Joey Fieldman got canned in Miami and did a pretty good job in an interim role. He then went to the Saints, where he's
been learning under the great Sean Payton. And now it's believed that he will be the next head coach of the Detroit Lions. It's still expected to happen, because it has been floating around now for days, but rap Sheet reported um on Sunday that it's still expected to go down. Uh, this is your classic mark guy that gets the locker room behind him, leader of men. Will it work in Detroit? This feels like a trickier one. It's really hard to make a judgment call one way or another right off
the bat. I think we're all surprised by it, um, I mean Chris Spielman had a lot to do with it. He's been consulting with them as a special assistant on this, and you're right. I mean, I think his qualities, according to what I've read and looked into, is intense a motivating force. Um. I thought he did a pretty good job with that Dolphins team when he came in. I mean, perhaps he can relate to players better than someone like
Joe philm and I wouldn't be surprised. I like the fact that he's been inside the Saints system for a while. I mean, you're probably seen in absorbing things that will be incredibly helpful. And he must have interviewed really well. I mean this this was not someone that a month ago was talked about as UM one of the top candidates. So the process um intrigues me. No, I mean, I
think again, it's like relationships here. Spielman gets this job out of the Fox booth and kind of becomes the key guy in in hiring the coach UM, and I think he believed in Dan Campbell. There's just not many coaches like this which are like the leader of men. I'm not an offensive guru necessarily, I'm not a defensive play caller UM and that just puts more pressure on his high yires. And so it's it's kind of incomplete right now. You I would love to know who their
coordinators are. Their GM, by the way, is going to be Brad Holmes from the Rams UM. A lot of a lot of teams kind of filling these GM hires with guys, you know, under the radar guys UM with good organizations that didn't necessarily do a lot of self promotion through the media. So I actually like that. It's like, I don't know these guys. They've they've stayed under the radar. Brad Homes So I'm gonna have a hot take on
Brad Holmes, on John Holmes. That's what I want to hear from Greg uh but any of those out there. But it's another setup where the GM didn't didn't hire the coach, and man, you just hope for the Lions, like there is a little bit of like worry that, like we want to be a tough team who plays physical brand of football, and we're gonna bring in our tough guy coach. I mean that is Chris Spielman, and
that I think is Dan Campbell too. So you mentioned, Yeah, Terry Fotno in Atlanta, he's the new GM, Brad Holmes in Detroit, George Patton in Denver from Minnesota, Yeah, taken over for John Elway in that capacity. You have Scott Fitterer in Carolina and then a familiar name former Carolina two times over GM, Marty Hernie Lands in Washington. So Ron Rivera not going the you know, forward thinking route,
going more Hey, I know that guy. We've been getting steak at Peter Luger's and and uh, what's it called? What's the place in Indy that we're not going through this year? So people can't say it's actually st Elmo st Elmo? Uh, no cocktails at st Almo this year. But these are old guys that have been in the league forever. Hernie expecting Washington if it wasn't Rivera and and their new president Jason Wright hiring Marty Hernie. I
mean to me, this is the ultimate crony ism. I mean they make a big show of you know, some of the some of the interviews they had for GM, and really it was it was it was Hernie all along um and we should say, you know, like the league that has not had a lot of you know, it's a league that's probably predominantly black, has not had a lot of black executives. So Holmes and Fontano get getting GM jobs. That is that is I think a
win um in that area. Uh this offseason alright, So and yeah we talked about that with the new head coach hires. Uh more underwhelming in that category. But you still have the Eagles with the head coaching opening the Texans still looking to Philip Post and is there anyone else h McDaniel. Yeah, I don't know if I if Man McDaniel's is agent. You can just sometimes it's like the same guy has the same has all these coaches
and the Eagles. The Eagles put it this way. I've tried to ask around a lot in this one, and I mean, he had the job in Indie. He walked out of the hands. That wasn't all smoke. The Eagles job is one that I don't think anyone has any clue. I don't neither to be clear, obviously, but I think everyone is just guessing and holding um their arms up and like their interviewing everyone. They're interviewing Dennis Allen today
of the Saints. It's been a pretty wide search, and I don't think anyone has a great feel of who's going to get that job. All right, So that's what's happening in the news. Now, time to bring on a very special guest who uh you know, has a habit of going viral with some videos he's been putting together during this great Buffalo Bills run. So we'll see you in Buffalo in January. Be ready. It might be chilly.
There they are the iconic words now in Western New York from Steve Tasker, former Buffalo Bills all pro really one of the great, if not the greatest special teams player of all time. Also the co host of One Bills Live on w g R Sports Radio five fifty and MSG. Now we welcome him for the first time to be around the NFL Podcast. I see, Steve, you you've got T shirts with that catchphrase. I mean, you've really built You're building an empire over there. Well, listen,
I'm I'm in. I'm employed by the club, so I don't get anything out of it, man, you know, you know, and these tough financial times, we all have to pitch in to help the you know, the businesses we work for to do it. So, yeah, the Bills are doing fine. But that, yeah, that took on a life of its own, no question, and you know how it is. The fun part about it was watching people's reaction to the to the hype video. So it's been pretty cool to see it.
Even you know, I was on the hook for buying, like, you know, twenty five of those T shirts and sending them around. I got a text from Bruce Bruce just textually goes, hey, bro, he goes, I need one of every size and every extra large. So I did it. I sent him to him. So there you go something that my mother always says, no good deed goes unpunished.
You know, you try to get behind your former team. Uh, Steve, this is obviously such an exciting, amazing time for the Bills, and you know, I feel like where we are now in one there's like a romantic viewpoint of your old Bills team and people look back at those teams. Uh, so successful but fell short of the mountaintop, and now here the Bills finally are back in position to get back to the mountaintop. What's the vibe been like up there in Western New York during this special time for
the Bills. Well, it's been muted because of the pandemic. You know that New York States probably one of the most lockdown states around in the in the Union, right, so uh, it's been really hard to congregate, uh and share it with the Bills fans that you know are so prominent and so part of the fabric up here. So uh, in that way, it's been a little muted, but there's no doubt Uh, in every household, in every business, everybody, it's all they're all sold out and bought into this team.
And I think this is It's interesting too because in the years leading up to this, and it was so long between great teams, people forgot that when you get to the n f C championship team, you kind of live in that place where, gosh, I hope our team does good and you know, I you know, I hope they play well. I hope they don't, you know, mess this up, or I hope the other team plays bad so we can win. You forget that to get to
the FC championship game, your team is really good. You know yet that your team has really gotta be good to get there. Not only gotta be talented, they've gotta be deep, they've gotta be well coached. You don't get to the championship game on a fluke. This is a really good football team and they're playing really well. They got some great players. Uh. You know, got a wide receiver that is an all time and had an all
time great franchise season. Uh, You've got a quarterback that played at an elite level at all year, and you've got a defense that's playing better and better, and finally now is and probably one of the top four or five defenses in the league at any you know, in these last couple of weeks, three or four weeks, so you know, you're hitting on all cylinders right now. It's just not that this had this you know, great time and it's a roller coaster. He just kind of turned
up in the championship game. This is a really good football team. And when you get to this point, you've got to be thinking that you're good enough to win the Super Bowl. And I think a lot of people here in Western New York are thinking that, Yeah, that's one of the reasons I love this final four. I feel like none of them are heavy favorites. All of them are totally good enough to win the Super Bowl.
We have to find out what happens. You've watched Josh Allen mature, you know you probably know him, uh well, after these last few years. He seems like a guy who who like registers what went wrong and and goes about fixing it. And I'm wondering how you think he's processing last week, um, a game plan that they put together in Baltimore where they actually slowed down the Bill's offense pretty well in the first half. They made some adjustments,
played better in the second half. How do you think like he's looking at that performance and then you know, moving forward to what the Chiefs are gonna try to do to him. It's a really interesting thought because Josh has really shown the knack for correcting mistakes quickly. Um. That's been his hallmark as a quarterback, even early on when he was so raw and he was way down the ladder of you know, being a productive NFL quarterback, even week to week, back when he had so far
to go to become even a petitive quarterback. Week to week, you could see him making adjustments in his game. He'd throw the football away when one year we he'd try to force it in and throw an interception. He would he would slide or run out of bounds instead of taking a big hit. He was doing things better now. Certainly it was in fits and starts, and sometimes he would regress and have a bad play here or there.
But the bad plays and those crazy plays that you know, the kind of a punch line of a joke for his play in general, those plays became fewer and fewer, and further and further far between and the other end of the spectrum, the good plays became more and more prominent and more and more consistent, and that kept coming all the way throughout last year and certainly this year when he hit the field with Steph Digs in the mix, with uh Gabriel Davis in the mix, and they went
four wide early in this season, way more than anybody else in the league. And man, oh man, the step he took then was amazing. Um so all the little increments he he took and growth he had this last offseason, which was totally off the radar because of the lack
of off season lack of preseason games. Nobody saw it except the coaching staff and his teammates when they unveiled that in Week one against the Jets, and then in a week two against the Dolphins, and in week three against the Raiders, and week four against the Rams, they go four and oh and they're lightening it up and he actually had a couple of three hundred yard days and a four hundred yard day. It was like, wow, it was really amazing, and it's been that way for
the entire year. You could see it coming and you knew in some sort of fantasy football where he had a big top end, He had a big ceiling because of his physical attributes and his intelligence and his hard work ethic. But you didn't think it was gonna go to that this level from where it was even at the end of last season, and yet here it is.
It's well, you know, looking at the building of this team and I and I picked up football in the mid eighties, and you know, I remember the Bills um as they started to grow in to an a f C superpower. You were there at the very beginning of that. And I went back and looked at the roster from a week one UM two thousand seventeen when Sean McDermott coached his first game. It was Tyrod Taylor, um Le, Shawn McCoy, and Mike Tilbert. In the backfield Jordan Matthews.
The team's leading receivers were z A Jones and Deonte Thompson. And those were the receivers. It was Charles Clay and the running backs that all the catches. They were such a limited different offense, and they had so much work to do, and they've been so intentional and rapid I think in building this team to what it is in such a quick fashion. Uh. I mean that's the gap
between these long bills successful periods. What is your thought of sort of Brandon being and Sean McDermott and what just their overall power to build this this team up so quickly. Yeah, it's interesting because the NFL, so you guys know, it's so hard to win and win consistently because there are so many levels of complexity about every aspect of the game. Offensively, you gotta have the right tools.
You gotta have the right offensive line, the right quarterback, The right weapons are around the quarterback to accentuate his gifts. You gotta have a defense that's loaded with athletes and and some experience, and a good court. You gotta have coordinators. You gotta have personnel people who are on the same page and giving you the players that fit your scheme. You gotta go the draft, you gotta go to combat. All that stuff is mixed into this and and this team.
The thing I know about what they built this team is this and one thing I noticed as they as they got along with it, there's a couple of things. They were never afraid to cut loose of a really good player if he didn't fit them. Uh, Marcel Darius, Sammy Watkins, uh Ron dar Um Darby the defensive back of guys of this nature you know that just didn't
fit perfectly. They got rid of them, and in fact, right before the start of the two thousand eighteen or seventeen season, they got accused of tanking and and ultimately went to the playoffs Rod Taylor at quarterback. That's how good this staff is. Now. The other thing that I've noticed, not only were they not willing, you know, too willing to part with good players, they never strayed outside their plan.
Levian Bell certainly they kicked the tires on him, and Tom and and Antonio Brown, certainly they kicked the tires and checked it out. None of those guys fit, uh none of the guys that the shiny, high priced free agents kind of wavered them away from their philosophy of getting players who were middle of the road free agents, I think, but fit their system and fit it well, and had the right temperament and the right attitude and
the right personality and had the right mindset. And they were also big in this not they got those guys, and plus they brought a lot of guys in on one year prove it deals. They paid them well, but they were only tied up for one year, and you get those guys, they're really highly motivated to get another contract, if not from the Bills, from somebody else. They got a lot of guys like that that are highly motivated
to play well and play well throughout the season. So all those things put together, it is kind of their philosophy. And to their credit, they never wayward from that commitment, and I think that sometimes is the hardest thing to do for an organization. They've become a model for other
teams UH to study. Before we say goodbye, Steve, I just wanna talk about what they need to do to win this weekend an arrowhead, because as good as the Bills have been and they are one Heil Murray away from a twelve game winning streak, in these two playoff wins, they've been outgamed yardage wise, and they've they've won because they've made the big plays in the crucial spots to
carry on and get to this point. But you get the feeling they're probably gonna have to deliver that a game on offense to get past Patrick Mahomes if indeed Mahomes on the field for the Chiefs. Do you see that you see a shootout here coming up? Or do you think Leslie Fraser coming off a great performance with that defense can keep Kansas City and Check. I think the building, I don't know if you keep Kansas City
and Check, I don't think. I don't think it'll be if it's a thirty point game, it will be a third point game on both sides. I think it's gonna be more like the first game they played, where the winner will be in the mid to high twenties, maybe score thirty thirty one, but the other guy, the other team will be right there too. I think this is gonna be a game where you gotta keep pace, no
question about it. You gotta stay with the Chiefs. And if you've got a defense that can make enough plays, and I think that's what this Bill's defense can do, is is make some enough plays to give maybe get the Chiefs off the field offensively a couple of unexpected times and an unexpected ways, maybe the turnovers, or maybe get a lucky break on a third and eight or something to get a knockdown pass or something like that.
Get a couple of plays like that to give Josh Allen a couple of extra possessions, and certainly the Bills have to play better offensively than they did the first time around. Josh threw for like two hundred and six yards against the Chiefs the last time they played in Week six. Certainly they weren't their best. John Brown was not a factor. He was ailing. Their offensive line had been shuffling every single week during that up to that point of the season. Um, their guards and their center
were never set in stone. Uh So now they've got that kind of under control. John Feliciano, their great guard is in there and has been in there for a while now. They they were a little unsettled up front in that game. But still, Josh Allen's gotta play better. He's got to play well. They've got to score points against his Chiefs team. Um, I think they can do it. But they're gonna have to play better offensively and more consistently offensively than they did in the first two weeks
of the playoffs, no question about it. But I think this game both teams their defense are gonna play well enough to be have respectable outings against these offenses, which means in this day and age, mid twenties to low thirties for these teams, and I think that's where this is gonna be. And I and look for the Bills to put together enough of a performance where it's gonna be in doubt. Certainly the Chiefs if everybody's playing their best, the Chiefs are maybe a better team than the Bills.
But the Bills are gonna play well enough to to put it in doubt late in this game and have a chance to win it. Uh, that's their modus operandi. And then it will be come down. It'll come down to the last part of the game where either Josh Allen the offense and Steph Diggs are gonna have to make a play or Patrick Mahomes and their crew were gonna have to make a play to win the game. Well, I know you got a head to a car commercial appearance.
I'm sure you're getting a lot of offers because you know, we heard the audio at first, but it was really the the cigar smoking and the mean mugging into the hymn. It was the acting that Tasker delivered in that hype video. That's gotta be getting your age and a lot of offers lately. Yeah, you know, I'm trying hey, down, I haven't left my house. I come into show and I go home. I haven't left the house in like ten months.
I I put an alarm on my wife, so if she moves, I hear because I'm afraid she's gonna kill me in my sleep. So you know that kind of thing. We're we're buttoned up tight here in New York. Everybody's just aching for a chance for the screws to get loosened a little bit so we can get out, go to dinner, go out to movies, you know, go out to a bar for a beer. Everybody's buttoned up hid here. So every time I chance to get a leave home just for work, I'm absolutely out the door to do it.
And it is it's a shame what you said at the top, that it is a little more muted because where we are in the world. But we won't be here forever. Steve Tasker will be a legend forever up there in Western New York, and and one day he'll be in Canton too, if the football gods have their say. Steve, thank you so much for joining us, and enjoy the football this weekend. Thank you guys, and there you go.
Steve Tasker did fall short. I mentioned the Hall of Fame. Uh, he was a semifinalist and he's been that several times through the years, but did not get selected to go forward for the final voting. But Mark, I know you love those old Bills teams as many people do. Tasker was a glue guy. Yeah, he's he's seen a tough category to to to get in. I love that he's been recognized to the extent he has in terms of getting through portions of the Hall of Fame process, and
maybe it will happen. But I mean watching those Bills teams, Um, there is a real reason that he resonates with people still because he was a heart and soul member and he just had so many plays and every you know, in big moments, and he he just kind of was the classic. I don't think that you know, Bill Belichick loves special teams and he's had his guys that have
been special teams guys forever. Um. I mean the task is one of the early imprints of that where maybe he gets flushed out in roster because he's not, you know, a contributing wide receiver. He was everything the Buffalo Bills were back then and totally an engaging watchable UM athlete isn't like a famous NFL Films clip where he goes up for a ball then lands like straight on his helmet,
like standing that's done. Yeah, but um, but you know what, relatively short white guy Don beebe H. I don't know if he would have been allowed. You know that what happened with his head in his neck off flipping him was He's in the blue tent for roughly three weeks of that, right. Connor or made a good point, by the way, on that before we say goodbye Connor, who we love and it's over at s I now wrote about it that nobody really even gave it a second thought.
When Lamar Jackson, the reigning m v P, and Patrick Mahomes the m v P before Lamar and the reigning Super Bowl MVP, both suffer head injuries and they disappear from the divisional playoffs like in the old days, those dudes are taking smelling salts and they're back on the field getting punished some more, trying to get their team to the next round. But as football fans and you gotta I give the league credit for this as well.
They have made progress in installing a culture to protect these guys even when they need to be protected from themselves. So that is that was a big step forward that we saw this weekend. There's an interview with Troy ack When where he talks about um having literally no memory of one of the NFC Championship games he was in. That's no memory of it. That's so scary, unbelievable. UM.
All right, so what's coming up this week Thursday? It is the Championship Sunday Preview and UH, I don't know, maybe we'll line up some guests for that show too, because that's gonna be a lot of fun, uh talking about those two games that will decide who plays in Super Bowl. On Friday. We will have a completely separate, UH Championship preview episode on television on NFL Network, So you can catch that at six pm Eastern three pm Pacific on Friday and also overseas game Pass International. UH,
you should have access to our program from there. And then of course Sunday Night, the Flagship Show, when you know what's gonna happen there we break it all down. And it is sad because in the past we do that show and then you know we'd be in the studio for a couple more days, then we'll be packing up and heading uh to the Super Bowl. This is the first year in a decade that that's not happening.
But still look forward to um covering the games and talking about them with you boys and hopefully Chris Wesley as well. And then you know, I know that it thinks the Browns aren't there, but like a little less pressure and tension at least that was my that's my experience when the Patriots loses, at least like I'm enjoying this being like, hey, I could just watch some football on you guys. Cann't be more different, Um in a lot of ways, But as football fans, I don't think
it's an apples to apples comparison. Yeah, I don't like, I don't feel what you're feeling on that front, Greg, But Um, I will say that it kind of it took a little bit of the heat off a little I kind of you know, it's been a lot of football lately, so yeah, as you know, Mark Um, from the years of Brown's toil before they put it together, it does take us some of the heat off. Sundays in general during the season when your team sucks so hard that there's nothing on the line. Ever, so you
don't you don't have that. I'm watching my favorite team and hoping their season progresses in a good direction while also trying to do my job. It's been coast time for for the old Zeuser during the Adam Gates era, so my job could get more difficult and hopefully will starting next to fall. All right, good stuff, sollelujah, baby, We'll be back, like I said on Thursday, so tune in. This is Dan Hanss signing off for Quiet Storm, the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood and the great Steve Task. How
about that? Till heellujah, so llelujah, sollelujah, sollelujah. So so helloyal, so hell lawyer, soallluaria, soalllaria Souia