Week 3 TNF Recap - Fitzmagic > Minshew Mania

the Fitz magic? You know? Sometimes it's like you see a game on Thursday night football and people, you know, aren't that excited about it. They're like, oh, Jaguars Dolphins own, okay, whatever, and then that game to be an instant classic. Well, you know what, the this wasn't really that game. This was kind of what what people expected it was. It

was a game. It was a game of football that was played Dolphins when thirty one to thirteen UM Greg Rosenthal joined on this Thursday Night recap special um by the biggest Lakers fan and all of Los Angeles, Patrick clay Bonne. I am just a supporter of Los Angeles mayor Alex Caruso. Um, Lakers get the win tonight, we're

able to you know, watch them TNF. UM. You know, I devoted my entire attention to the Dolphins of Jack's because I got a message from Greg Rosenthal that said, Hey, Patrick, would you like to be on your first ever t n F recap show? And after several minutes of excited swearing, I said yes, I would love to. I ignored the Lakers, uh, and I just focused on this uh fits magic. It was a virtuoso Gregg performance. Yeah it was. It was

vintage Fits. It was. It wasn't a great game. We talked a little before or you know, we texted in. You know, these recap shows are always better if they give you a classic, you know, and we didn't. We didn't get that. The Dolphins took command of this game right away. Um, but you did get like a memorable Fitzpatrick. Maybe we've heard We've probably said it so many times, one more time in primetime. It's like, okay, one more Fitzpatrick. But I don't know, I'll probably doing this in five

years with some other UM rookie on the bench. But it just goes to show if you protect Fitzpatrick and I think this is true of most um average to above average starting quarterbacks. The difference between like a good starting quarterback and like one that won't make it, that won't have a twenty year career like Fitzpatrick is if you protect him, he's gonna deal, and he was dealing tonight. He They had terrible pass protection the first two weeks.

They were twenty nine um and pressures allowed according to PFF in the first two weeks. And still I thought Fitzpatrick played pretty well, and tonight you played at Jaguars defense that doesn't look good. Fact, fits used his legs, they were so key and they've been key for his entire career, and the Jags defense just didn't have a lot to stop him. I was surprised that first drive when the Miami offensive line just kind of mowed through Jacksonville.

I immediately thought, oh, that that's a bad sign if Miami is mowing through you right up front, because we have not seen that out of the Dolphins the first two weeks, and it might be a long night for the Jaguars. And also Davante Parker was flashing tonight. It was good to see him healthy. But to your point, Greg,

those first couple of drives. At one point um the Dolphins had six team plays to the Jags four UM and there were I think three third down conversions on the on the second on the second drive, and it was, as you mentioned, that fits Magic with his legs. At one point, I believe in the third quarter, fitz Magic was out on the edge with the twenty four year old Josh Allen right, and he like tries to like stiff form and him and do a spin move because he was just feeling himself and it's like no, and

you know, those those days are long gone. But but that was to the point where he was like taking the heat checks with his legs. He only had two incompletions all the night. Uh. You you liked what she saw out of a lot of these guys. And and on the other side, Uh, it was it felt like it felt like Jay Gruden was looking on for the answers to the test and just can find them and then eventually just started writing A B C A B

A C. He UM. I thought called two really good games against you know, the Colts, and I got really excited about what I saw against the Titans last week. I watched all those games and and maybe this is a reminder don't get too carried away, which I tend to do with the early season stories because really or at any time of this season, because they can change on a dime. And Gardner Minshew struggled in this game after after two really good games. He's a he's kind

of like a rhythm quarterback. I think he's a streaky quarterback. I don't know if there's any way to measure that. I know, I know you don't believe in momentum Clay about neither do I, but I do. I do think he's a guy kind of like fits who gets hot and and starts feeling it. I mean this is this is not a controversial take. And tonight they never got into a rhythm as a whole offensive team. Chris Conley had a terrible night, dropped the past early that killed

an early drive. Uh in the first quarter. They had some strange third down run calls. I thought throughout the game, and Uh, Minshew missed some throws, made some bad decisions and UH seem kind of scrambled. Steve Smith in the post game show, Um, I wanted to get this quote right, so I wrote it down, said Minshew couldn't read zone if zone popped him upside the mustache and went inside his nose. Now, how getting so zone obviously can he couldn't.

He couldn't read zone coverage. And so I guess, um, look, I'm not gonna question Steve Smith. He's an expert on popping people upside their head um and and uh, maybe he's right. Brian Flores switched from a defense that's usually primarily maned to zone and I don't know, maybe that was well you mentioned that calmly drop and honestly like that that play. I believe it was on the first drive. That's the type of play where you look at Gardner Minshew and he's like that, that's what he can do.

There was pressure early, he eludes it. Uh, he throws a great ball, Uh, calmly drops it. And you wonder perhaps if the game would go differently, at least they would have had a first down there. But consistently they just weren't able to make the place. And then you get late and there's that horrible call where Cam Robinson gets ejected because he violated the honor of an official

or whatever. He kid just stop that. Now, I think it was like three years ago when Marshawn Lynch disengaged from a raff and it was god the curls plunged across America because an official was touched, Like, if you don't want to get touched, don't get in there. But after after Robinson's ejection, minsh, you just didn't have a chance. And this vaunted Dolphins pass rush, it's the re emergence of Kyle Van Noy. Um. You know, I don't know if they have the personnel to do that weekend and

week out, but they did it tonight. So hey shout out to Brian Florence uh in this defense because they stuck it to the Jacks tonight. I mean, is this this has I want to call research, I guess or email them, but is this the first time in NFL history to to um guys with Van in their last name got a sack of Van noy and Van Ginkle. I mean, you know when you're bringing the Van Ginkle on the blitz um that you're generating a pass rush.

And this this kind of was the uh, the good Brian Flores that you hope to have because they really don't have players to win one on one up front. But if you can be a little better on early downs like they were, then you get into the third down situations and then Florence starts getting so crazy and Van Noyce starts making his money. He had a pretty awesome night overall. Uh. And you're the Dolphins and you're

you're now going to go undefeated in primetime. Congratulations, that's it the year and they feel like to one and two teams. I guess in in the end, I'm happy for the handsome hanks out there these prime time games. When you watch your team like they mean a little extra, you get a little extra rest. DeVante Parker's out there, but he's not quite a hundred percent. You get Byron Jones back. Um, you know when you come back, you're

playing a bank of team next. Who knows it's early Patrick Clayton, Well, the one thing I do know is fits Magic took some shots. Get a head to the shoulder. Uh tonight we will see to uh at some point if Royan Fitzpatrick insists on playing football like, I mean, that's that's who he is. I mean, you can't take that away from him. But he's just he is not safe with he He's made it this far somehow, although you know he was on the bench, He's been on

the bench for a lot of it. I mean I covered his very first game, um covered in quotes from my you know, from my like three square foot apartment in New York for Rhoda World, when he was a third string quarterback that came in for the Rams, and he just started dealing and he was balls to the wall then too. I mean he was, he was with Mike March. He's just going going crazy. I mean that I think that's what we want to see, uh out of Gardner Minshew long term, but this tonight not to

you know, keep changing talk books. But it's a reminder, like they have a pretty small margin fair when Chris Connley dropping one path and like you know, they won their first game being out gained by two hundred yards and when you were kind of this thinking dunk offense and you're missing missing DJ Chark, which was a huge loss. I think he I mean, he is like a top

receiver in the league. That that killed him. At least the America got to see what I was excited about with James Robinson, and I like the looks of Levisca Chennaut moving forward. So they got some players. Yeah, they got some pieces, especially you know in the world that I'm in, uh this year and in the fantasy world where you can't just you can't just wipe away in the yards that Minshew got late either. It was garbage

time here in this season of garbage time. But Robinson was legitimately impressive from not from just the standpoint of like, here's a warm body that we can hand the football too, but he was making guys miss. Uh. Came close to getting that fourth and eleven late that maybe could have changed the game a little bit. But he's you know, showing some patience, uh in between the tackles, a good receiver out of the backfield. He's nice. He's get a

lot of people, miss. I mean, you know, making a lot of people just bounce off from a hundred and twenty nine yards from scrimmage. I I I always think it's a very hard thing to judge, maybe coming out of college, but like, running hard is a skill, you know that, at least in the NFL. I know everyone wants to run hard, but some I just feel like some players are able to run as hard as they possibly can on every single snap better than others. And

that's like a key trait. You never see that like at the combine as one of the measurables, but he seems to absolutely have that. Well. It's it's a certain level of acuity of knowing what you're doing right and knowing your responsibility on the play, and just those fractions of a second of indecisiveness can make you appear to you know, not be trying hard when when guys are going all out. Uh and I think that uh Robinson

is a good football player. And you know, when you when you come from a place where you don't get a lot of exposure, we're constantly shocked by that. But like college pro evaluators, they just don't hit all the time. Is that a little projection from you coming from Troy, Um, you know you're from some small school. I just' you've risen to the top of the industry. You're hosting what Fantasy Live tomorrow, that's what you're referring to. You are

now the thrice weekly host of fantasy. Uh fantasy. The top of the industry is being alongside you, Greg That's that's the top of the industry. Um No, it's Um it's maybe it's a little bit of projection. I don't know. I think that name brand stuff, and that's not just sports, that's everything. Like we we assumed that the Kleenex is going to be better than the Kirkland brand, all right. We assume that guys that come out of Alabama and Auburn are are going to be better than a guy

that comes out of Villa North State. Um. But you know, you get out there and you make the plays, and that's what James Robinson did. I'm glad to see it. And to certain extent, you know Gardner Minshew as well. Uh you know he's he's a name brand now, but he wasn't uh you know, pre mustache, pre r vs and bud light. You know, this is this is just a dude trying to to get some run somewhere and all the other stuff, the mustache conversation, and people are like, oh,

this guy is a media creation. No, he legitimately can play. But as you said, there was just he was. He was up against it tonight, he was and they're gonna have to score a lot of points this here. I was glad to see no uh igbogn Um play better

after a rough, rough game. It's just shows that things changed fast and in the NFL because C. J. Henderson looked like the best rookie player at any position in the entire league the Jaguars first round pick at cornerback in Week one, and then he was on the struggle bus tonight, So it flips depending on the week. I really only did that because I wanted to practice saying Mr Igbangans name out loud, and it went fine. Now that I did it once, I feel like I can

do it for the rest of my career. This was the first ten point win by the way by the Dolphins UM since two thousands seventeen against the Broncos, which is outrageous. Can you try to guess the starter in that game? So I'm not even gonna have you guess it the Jags and the Broncos and twos. No. No. It was the first win by more than ten points for the Dolphins in any game since UM deep into the Adam gay S era. They were playing the Broncos. It was December of two thousand seventeen. Oh, I know

who started a quarterback? That had to be our boy that more right now? It was Trevor Simeon versus Jay Cutler that we've made big thinks Chase fast. All right, Patrick, I I appreciate you joining. Um, I want you to enjoy uh this Dolphins win, but also this Lakers win. Playoff Rondo is a real thing, and um, the lake shows looking looking pretty good right now. The first first game Rondo back, I was yelling at my father to explain to me why ra Gen Rondo was on the

basketball court in so yeah, he's proven me wrong. Baby, Yeah, Ricky, Ricky who's with us, Eric got tam post are producer of course. Uh, she remembers playoff Rondo back when those three pointers right at the end and we needed them. I almost don't want the Celtics to advance um to the finals look good right to get beat down by the Lakers, which is I fear what would happen? So

maybe maybe it won't, but that that's for next week. Um, next Thursday night will be uh Jets Broncos, so get ready, Dan and Mark will have you on next Thursday night. But Claibron, thanks thanks for joining, and uh check them out on Fantasy Live Friday in other days join us. So yeah, all right, that's it. Sweet for Patrick Claibron, Ricky tam Posey, I'm Greg Rosenthal. We will see you Sunday, m