Week 12 Seahawks-Eagles Recap; Mike Garafolo Joins the Show

the motive. Well, the secret is, it's the next wave of motive. Everyone you know right now fifty six K is hot. But what happens when you get up to you know K. That's where we're going. Well, that's why we're cutting edge. And I do find it an interesting life scenario in the future if the NFL were to melt down into I really the three of us or four of us or five of us would join some random corporation in like Central Iowa and just immediately start

a podcast talking about modems and screws and dashboards. Well, listen, I've I've done my research. Um as an enterprising middle aged businessman, here, and I just realized might have made a huge mistake because the NFL owns the around the NFL podcast name by uttering it on this show? Is that also the property of three forty five Park Avenue and Roger Goodell? Did we just line the pockets again

of Big Corp? They own everything? So yes, you know emphatically, yes, I need Yeah, they own if if we have another child, they own that. Um, they own whoever we're gonna hire to help us, because you know, we've got we're like I DMN very creative and everything. When I when I think of the four of us with with West too, and I'll throw Ricky, you know, throw Ricky in there. I don't think like tech savvys, like the number one

first thing that comes to my mind. Well, that's why we launched Big Tech, because the most important thing to success is just a hunger to learn and get better. So that's our company is just starts here and then it just goes like that. Right. We see it through the eyes of the of the everyman, you know, not the nerd. So I'm with you and Greg. That was a little bit of creeping pessimism in Big Tech. We won't have that it's this is like Silicon Valley. There's

a lot of optimism. There's big, cushy offices, windows everywhere, open space. Yeah, so just we've got to have that right attitude. There's just like bitcoins falling from the ceiling. You're missing one key ingredient and it's white and it's sugary and it comes in big bags. Yes, many sugar cookies. I just like I kind of take a little bit of offense to that when you're like tech savvy doesn't

really come. I guess I was thinking more in this pandemic, like I got Good Morning Football online, I got two online the network, like right, I was thinking more like the back end like programming and stuff was more. But you have to understand like that, whenever Greg sets up anything like that, you know he's about to insult somebody. Uh, it was your turn there, and you just have sometimes you just gotta wear it. But good for you for

coming back at him on it. Thanks. I mean, we're just colleagues, not friends, so I don't really take it personally. You'll probably one thing I have learned is people think take things more personally, and I've tried to learn that in my forty years that not everyone. Um, you know it's sometimes just for the sake of a joke. You can't take it personally. And he is improving on the empathy scale. All right, here we go, let's get into it big show today. We have a guest Mike Gara, Folo.

We love that guy's is plugged in as it gets. One of the top insiders not just in our company but the whole industry. And he's good dude, and he's from Hoboken, So what else do you need. He's gonna join us on the show a little bit later. Um, I think we'll preview Steelers Ravens for the trifecta here, Why not again the last two shows? Why not do

it a third time? Why not? Mark? Yes, I I I mean, look at I think we're getting We're rounding into form with each of these previews, and our pinpoint precision will be felt by the listener this third time. I think it would be fun the preview Ravens Steelers every show for the rest of the season, Like, even if the game does happen, just just just preview. I like the idea that we previewed so many times that we reach a higher plane of intelligence and we just

know everything that happened before the game is played. We're one preview away from that, so we can't stop now. But before any of that, we do have to get to the penultimate game on the week twelve schedule. It went down in Philly Seahawks Eagles. Let's check it out and here comes a three man rushing a handoff and it girls rocked. The cardsman got a rock at the ten runes on the numbers, the five breaks to tackle, cartender taking turning, driving touchdown. Wow, water On, he's a bulldozer,

He's a beast. Big time run Carson with a sixteen yard sledgehammer touchdown. Run the best, Kevin Harlan, Kevin Hall, Harland, Kevin Mother, Coline Westwood one. Chris Carson made it count his long run of the game, sixteen yards and he found the end zone, adding a little balance to the Seahawks offense and it paid off a twenty seventeen win over the Philadelphia Eagles, who continue his scuffle on offense.

They got a Vegas desert destroying hell area at the end of the game to make this thing look respectable. But Mark, this game was one sided. Seat will beat him on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I um, I don't often do this, but I spent the morning listening to uh ninety four w y P Whip in Philly, um, just to get a little taste of the of the aftermath and us too successful now, so you need to

find another He's loving this, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz downfall, remembered all those texts in when he thought the Browns blew it by not taking Wentz. He's loving this. It's just it's an unprecedented um slide. And I don't think it's all on Carson Wentz. I mean, he's it's he's the quarterback. He's going to get destroyed um, you know in this scenario on social media. But he has like a historical QB rating drop off this season from the

combined seasons before. I mean, their offense to me looked lost um passing game wise against one of the worst past defenses in the league. And and I thought it was instructive, you know, Doug Peterson after the game. The one thing they were talking about on w I P over and over obviously was Jalen Hurts and the dynamic of the promises and Ian Rappaport's suggesting that we'd see

more of Jalen Hurts. He played two snaps, he's played more in games in October, and they asked Doug Peterson after about it and he said, well, it's not about one guy, he said, we had breakdowns across the board

and it doesn't really matter who's back there. And I just I question the flexible thinking or the creativity um of the Eagles and where they are because it just seems to me that the same questions are being asked by a very um I think agitated group of beat writers who are suffering through a rough campaign and a coach who suffering through a rough campaign, and a quarterback.

And it's like enough with the Eagles being projected as you know, NFC title NFC East titleists, they've got a lot to figure out and massive looming questions heading into uh the offseason. Seattle did not look their best, but they snuck. They snuck a win out of here against a team in disarray. Yeah, they look fine. You know, their defense is getting a little better. Jamal Adams is

doing his thing. Chris Carson makes a huge difference, but the most telling part of the broadcast to me was was some of the broad was some of the analysts from Greasy and Riddeck and it and it gets to what you were talking about with Wentz when they said late in the game that Peterson didn't necessarily want Hurts that ranks some that rang some bells because first of all, you can look at the loyalties there, Greasy sticking up

for the quarterback. These guys are football guys. Lewis Riddeck used to work for Howie Roseman has disparaged him publicly, um, which I think it would have been better to disclose at some point while he was disparaging him last night too, because this this this goes back, you know, you know, years and years, because they were sort of on opposite sides of the uh of the organization years ago, and

so that that really rings a bell. And then I think about Ian Rappaport's report about how Hurts is gonna play more. And I'm not trying to guess where these things are coming from, but when things like this happened, I think it's a schism, you know, I think it's maybe the front office and the coach not being on the same page. And when these things start coming out.

It's almost like, and we've seen this in Philadelphia, by the way, before you start thinking, okay, this group, which has won a Super Bowl together is starting to come apart a little bit. And there's maybe the Peterson side and there's the front office, and you do wonder, Uh, is only one of those two sides gonna survive? Are either side gonna survive? We We really have no idea, but I think where we've hit that point of the scene.

Laurie seemed annoyed looking at his face last night. Uh hey, typically, I mean he kind of I feel like owners always look like that in the box. And then we were chatting a lot. It's a lot of because he's just sitting there. Owners in general don't move around a lot. They just sit there and the and the money shine

is all over them. But and the mask also, So I don't want to read so much as that, although they did by saying he didn't go to the Cleveland game the last week, which was read into, I guess in Philadelphia as a potential sign of his frustration with the team. Was the first game Lorie had missed since he um bought the team. But yes, Rittick is the

former Eagles director of Pro Personnel. Um. There was the talk about Jalen Hurts getting snaps, and there was criticism in the broadcast if you're gonna put him in, put him in for a series, which there's logic to that, but also it could have just as easily been aroused by the Eagles to try to get Seattle to have the game plan for a second quarterback. Uh, that wouldn't surprise me evil either. And this kind of gets back to and Seahawks fans will get to your team as well.

This to me gets back a little bit to a conversation we had last week. I think when the team struggles the way it has, the head coach certainly deserves blame. Um. But Carson Wentz missed so many throws yesterday. He missed not just throws, but reads and and Alshon Jeffery streaking down the sideline was one that comes to mind. But

stuff in the seams and then the accuracy issues. At one point he threw low to one of his running backs and he visibly lifted his arms like bring the pass up, And that was a throw that he missed someone on the outside. Uh, it's so hard for me to kill the coaching staff the scheme um when the quarterback is so out of sync and obviously in a

total funk mentally and physically. But which is why I think they in less hurts as a total disaster or Sudfeld, you know, as another guy has been on that roster for a while. I don't know. I think maybe I do think changing it up for a game is not you know, makes sense because you said it like you can make all the excuses and you know, Orlovsky, who has been a big when supporter, went through all the

reasons why he thinks the offense is failing him. But I keep coming back to like the ball doesn't go or when's aims it. Know, I've always thought that was a problem with them, but now it's like they're they're also not using his athleticis and that's where you can get on the coaches maybe, but like it doesn't go where he wants it to go. So I don't know, how can you get past that. I went back and watched just a little bit of the member of this

game in t seventeen. I believe we had Colleen on after it was a Monday night football game that we did what we're doing here. We unpacked the Eagles and it was Carson Wentz um frying Washington and he was, you know, they were six and one. After that game, he looked like an m v P. Everything that we're saying about him now we were not saying about him then.

I mean, he he was. That's when I was texting you guys late at night, thinking like the Browns might have completely botched this because he looks like a hero in the making. And so I'm with you Dan that you can't just point to the coaching staff. You can't just point just to the quarterback. But the overall like soup is um distasteful right now, and so I don't I'm with Greg. I don't know who survives out of this.

Carson wentz salary suggests that he survives. And if you play hurts and he brings a lot of energy and electricity, Let's say you play for a quarter, they go up fourteen nothing. You have opened up Pandora's box that goes deep into the off season. So I wonder if there's some hesitation to allow that to happen. I mean, I just hope Wentz is prepping as much as Mark is for these shows listening to w I P going back to someone is getting an m v P coin January.

The Eagles are three seven and one now, so if Doug Peterson intends to somehow still win the NFC East, he's probably thinking long and hard now whether to give Hurts a shot. But again there's more to that too. How does Hurts look behind the scenes. The media hasn't had a good look at practices this year, all right on the Seattle side of things, UM, pretty much what

you expected. A DK metcalf is at that level as a player ten for one seventy seven in this game where he is just such a headache and such a phenomenon really when it comes to being a playmaker. He's just at the top of the league right now. And just credit to UM the entire organization for scouting him

the way they did. You remember during the combine when we had it on video when he took a shirt off to meet Pete Carroll in Indianapolis and Pete Kyle took his shirt off, and obviously, I thought to myself, it's that Connor or no, it's DK metcal exactly. His body is hot right now, and uh, they obviously scouted him right, went and got him, I believe, in the second round of that draft, and now look where he is and with Chris Carson and Carlos Hide, that's a

nice combination. Um, the offense is fine. The defense obviously is the story now around them because it seems to be improving. Yeah, a lot of that I think is scheduled related, but that's how it how it goes. And they they've looked okay enough, I thought three of the last four weeks. Anyways, they just need to be average.

To me, that's their recipe is being a Chiefs like team or a two thousand sixteen Patriots type of team where you have one of, if not the best offenses in the league at its best and and then okay defense and your boy at a him who you know, you you get on Clowney for instance, for um, you know, just getting pressures, not getting secks. For For all the some criticism the Seahawks have taken for the Adam Strange, he has eight sacks in seven games. He has twenty

seven pressures. The next closest defensive backs twelve. So it reminds me of that Greg Williams comment. They're not gonna know how to use them. It's like they're they're using him just fine in this role. I know he's not like the best coverage guy or whatever, but he is productive, right. It's funny, and I agree with you. I thought the same thing because he's the rare guy on defense that you always know where he is because he's always around

the ball. And I think the only way to try to negate him in the game plan is not be what the Eagles are, which is this kind of this formless offense that can't protect the quarterback Adam, that plays right into Adam's hands. You got to live near the line of scrimmag You've gotta get Adams out in coverage to try to expose where he's not so great. So when he is, I still, you know, two first round picks. Is still pretty steve for his safety, but he is

given them obviously a big lift on defense. I never thought he was going to be a bust for them. Obviously I miss him, but he was also want to be honest, he's a bit of a pain in the so well, I think for the Jets. I think you have to say, you know, and I was critical of the move because of the like the overall cultural side of it. But they've they've gotten good value for a player that would have meant nothing to them this season,

So that's fine. I loved that both our friend our friend bow Wolf called Metcalf a unicorn because that's what he is. I was like, what is this guy remind me of? When I'm watching them play. It's kind of like when families used to get together, um and do things outside in America, like on Thanksgiving for instance, and you'd have like the family football game and they'll be like the one kid who's like suddenly like a gigantic nineteen year old trying to get tackled by like nine

year old girls. Like uh, I mean, you know, I will give Darius Slay credit for like what he said after the game. He was a total menshi about it. He he took total accountability. I think part of this idea of like trying to put whether it's a shutdown corner or not, one human being on DK Metcalf or one human being on Tyreek Hill on Sunday, Like, let's stop doing this. There's gotta be a better way to

go about this. I mean, they went they were very physical, Yeah, I mean to the point where like they were penalized for how much they were roughing him up. And that was the first quarter of that game was a street fight. I mean, it's a bad job by Jim Schwartz telling him he's not Megatron yet before the game. Guess is true. Um, but that's the right. I mean, he wasn't try but you're you know, the players are gonna take any motivation that they can. It's probably true, but he's getting there.

You know. The two closest comparisons, I would say are David Boston and Megatron. And I think the difference between those two is you can tell with Metcalf he's already put in the work, his his route, running in the smoothness with which he gets in and out of his brake, stuff like that is already seems way better than it was as a rookie when Pete Carroll called him the Mandalorian, which is a reference completely lost to the two of you. But um, it made sense to me. Nothing. Nothing doesn't

ring a bell at all. I mean, it's nice. It's nice to see Star Wars after a string of cash making. I was gonna say, you know, misfires creatively, I mean they're printing money, but that they've made something that people actually like. So that's nice. That's a good, good reaction. All right, joining us now, wake off, Caral follow I'm texting joining us now. That's what they do. That's what the insiders do. Even when they're on camera. They're allowed

to look at their phone and do phone things. It's written in our contract. He is, of course a reporter for NFL Network. He is Ricky. He's Ricky. I'm Ricky, reporter for NFL Network, co host g MFB Weekend, distant cousin of Jimmy Garoppolo. Maybe I must say, um, my Twitter profile picture is a picture of me and Jimmy Garoppolo, and my header is me and Carson loves So I guess, I guess you don't want to show up anywhere on

my Twitter profile Where Sam Donald in this profile? Mike, you are obviously plugged in on all this stuff like crazy and this the Steelers Raven situation. Now we're getting the game on Wednesday, and uh and is this? I mean, is this a game definitely gonna happen. Let's start there, I believe, so I can't leave it on the table

that shakes the camera Um, yeah, I believe so. Um And there's a look and and the Titans situation was a bit of a fiasco at times, but the NFL was pretty good about spotting, hey, when we're gonna come out of this five day incubation period. Incubation is the word that I keep forgetting on there that I want to access, and I just got it there. So I'm really happy about that. Um. The biggest platforms, so the five ish uh day incubation period, and they were pretty

good about, all right, we're out of it. We might have a couple of stragglers, but we're working our way out of it. And uh So that's where they feel they are with this raven situation, and that's why the game uh is going to be played or scheduled to be played and and should be played. Um. So, look, there's a lot of different things that come into this, with what's happening in Denver and what happened with San

Francisco a couple of weeks ago. But I would say that the NFL from a medical standpoint, was pretty good about how they handled the Titan situation and also this raven situation, or so at least it seems right now, yeah, I don't understand why Denver especially is like, well, how come you delay in this games? Or even you know Steelers fans are up, so how come you're delay in this game? John Harbuck, He's putting the game off, and it's like, it seems pretty clear to me what what

the difference is. Believe me, the NFL is not trying to lose money. They are trying to get this uh thing in as as much as possible. They have. They have forced these games. They are only doing it when it's like absolutely irresponsible to be playing the games. And people can even argue about that. So like if the game's being delayed, believe me, they're trying not to have it be delayed. They did not want to cancel the

primetime game on Thanksgiving, not in the plans. And by the way, the only good game that this Thursday Night's game too has gone too because of that. They knew that Dez Bryants revenge game against the Cowboys and they want to move that. No, they wanted right where it was supposed to be. Um so so, and I'm not trying to, you know, uh apologize for what's happening here,

but you know that's one thing. The other thing that frustrates people, and I get it, is that the Ravens are kind of being rewarded because their situation was worse than the Broncos situation. I mean, that's what it comes down to. It's kind of goofy, but it's it's it's kind of how it goes. And listen, they're still gonna be shorthanded. They didn't have a normal practice week by any stretch, and they're gonna get hit by the league in some form or fashion. I'm sure. Um, so you

know there are repercussions at least. What would it take, Mike, uh for us to end up with the six team game playoff schedule? Would it take a cancelation to cancelation?

What is your vibe on that for this to actually shift into a different set up for the NFL schedule for I mean, if it's just theoretically, it's just one that matters, right, If there's one game that has a team finishing at nine and six while another team's at nine and seven, and you go hold on which one is supposed to get in because the other team didn't

play the game? Um, then that's how they would iron that out and say okay, we'll just let the eighth team in, which, by the way, then you could have the ninth team saying, well, hey what about us? You know, And I was just there's no perfect plan, uh to to take care of that number one and number two. If it is just one game, they'll find a way to get it in, you would think. So it would take theoretically a couple of games that you're missing that

have an impact on the standings. If the Jets game against the Patriots doesn't get played in the Patriots, you're out of it. That's not going to factor into Jets. We'll go in sixteen then either So that doesn't sound but they would make history and that I have a personal like this would affect all four of us personally. Do you think like the same way sort of post nine eleven they enacted a lot of rules that never

really went away. Um that the NFL. The way that the media works right now where you know under Corona's you know rain where it's all zoom meetings, there's a lot less um you know, people inside the building, which I would imagine teams love journalists are far away no more. You know, when is the next time we're ever gonna be back in buildings or will they shut that down for good? Because I'm wondering if will will we ever be in these like thirty person sweaty journal scrums, um

trying to interview a coach. I could see that just never happening, never again. Tell us about Opening Night. You guys are unbelievable because I always before I come on, think about something that I want to talk about, and this is something I've wanted to talk about for we Now you brought it up, and I'm glad you did, because I want to make this clear to anybody who's got any kind of influence over these things that's watching right now, and we know that there's a lot of them,

because that's where influential, influential people come right here. Um, I'm listening. It's a podcast. Ultimately, I missed that. This for you, if you want that's fun. I miss access and I miss access on Sundays. And this is not some kind of first amendment. I demand my access to my UH kick returner and gunner. No, that's not what it's about. It's about on Monday's of normal game weeks.

Think about how many stories come out of postgame locker rooms. Um, and how many storylines the next day that you're talking about a lot of times you didn't even know about. Just a good question is asked that a player reveals something and it comes out and you kind of dissect it all. And there's a dearth of that kind of stuff right now because there's no access on Sundays. So once it's safe again. If the NFL or teams think

that limiting access, boy, this has been great. Oh how that that would be a disservice to fans too, players who deserve to have their stories told to organizations, to people in the media. And I just I miss it so much because so much comes out of Sunday locker rooms and we just don't have it right now, And and I really have a hole in my soul because of it. Okay, but do do you think the players actually miss it? Um? Not the majority of them, might say,

but I think that there's a minority that understand. Um. I mean, think of it this way. I don't know that we've heard from Jalen Hurts since training camp. I thought about that last night. I mean, the the Eagles haven't made him available. I don't I could be wrong, Maybe he did one at some point I missed it. But what's going through that guy's head? Don't you want to know? I mean, we we keep asking once about

it and Doug Peterson all the other guys. I'd love to you know, he deserves to have his say on the matter and listen that he could easily say to the I want to be available and I want to talk and whatnot. But and again maybe he has, but I just I haven't seen enough of it. I just there's there's um there are some guys who realize enough, guys who realize having access to the media and access to defense despite the fact that you have your own

channels to speak, is a good thing. It'll be interesting, I UM realize some of these owners own Premier League teams and they've kind of gone to uh the no no locker room, very very little access policy and has has not hurt the bottom line. So when it wouldn't surprise me if they if they change some things. I

am speaking of access. I want to ask about someone who I feel like has used his relationships, um, whether it's in the building or outside of the building, to find his way atop the Houston Texans Organization that's right, we're talking easter By again. I am just curious though, to talk since we have an insider on the show. Jack Easterby is basically there and the Texans swear he's not going to be the GM, but if he is running the coaching search with the owner Cal McNair, Um,

I guess, how do you see that going? Is that going to be a problem for people who would maybe come into the organization, like let's say, an Eric b enemy or do you think they might just avoid doing the whole thing anyways and just stick with Romeo. I'm sort of getting convinced that they're just gonna try to do that. Um. I think that that's possible, and that's a fallback option for Houston right now. UM. And I don't want to speak for anybody in particular. I mean,

I know you mentioned the enemy. I don't know what the enemy thinks about the Texans building, but I do know that there are GM candidates who are a little wary of what's happening down there. Um, And listen, part of that is because they look at it and go,

where's my draft capital. O'Brien trained it all away, and I gotta come in and try to rebuild things, and I don't have those those picks to start with, Whereas if you walk into the Jaguars building, got yourself and starting point there with all the picks that Dave Caldwell has compiled for that team. UM, so I you know,

in addition to the draft capital, they're worried about. Wait a second, is this is this the guy who UM overthrew the guy who overthrew the previous GM and how much power is he gonna have and what kind of setup is this going to be? And while he's not the GM, uh maybe um is he gonna have some influence over what happens here? So I know they're concerned. Uh in that regards at least some candidates UM and

and coaches would have the same questions. You know, I don't want somebody looking over my shoulder when I'm trying to game planned during the week. Do you think, um, well, let's say Doug Moron, let's say most likely is not going to be a long term guy there beyond correct me if I'm wrong. You have the Texans obviously, the Lions, the Falcons, the Jets obviously is an obvious one. Which power rank though, what's like the best job out of

all these, you think, and conversely, what's the worst? I assume you assume you're talking coaching, because you threw the Jets in there, right, we're talking just coaches, Yes, just coaches. Um, what were my options again? Alright? Jaguars, Texans, Lions, Falcons, Jets, Jets. M um oh coaching standpoint, I mean, I think you gotta go Falcons right from a coaching standpoint, because I think you can walk in and you can be successful

with that team. And maybe you don't walk in, maybe you just stay because maybe your name is Raheem Morris and you can show Arthur Blank and everybody else in Atlanta, including Rich McKay, that you got a good thing going and why not give me a chance to do this for the long the long haul? Um? So you know, and and I would say this, uh weeks ago, I

did ask prospective GMS. I said, if you go into Atlanta right now when when Thomas to Mitchell was fired, if you go into Atlanta, what are you doing with the quarterback? And they said, it depends do I have a top three pick or do I not have a top three pick? And right now they're playing themselves out of a top pick um, so that could lead the Matt in staying I I still think he's got good

football left. Now you're you're going in there and you're having him as you're starting quarterback for the next couple of years. Maybe, but you're also hatching a long term plan as well. But I still like the fact that I've got Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, uh and some other key pieces at least there that you can work with. I'd ask you to know about another veteran quarterback, Matthew

Stafford in Detroit. You know, there were whispers in a couple of past off seasons with the last regime that maybe they would go a cold quarterback in the draft.

Maybe Matthew Stafford could be moved on some level. Is there a window or a scenario or feeling inside the organization that Stafford could be could be on the way out and that I look at a team like Ron Rivera who seems unwilling to want to work with a young quarterback but would love a veteran and you can't just sell Alex smith on on us for another season. I don't think it's a nice story. But year two,

some of that drips away. I mean, could Stafford wind up somewhere else, um, and all in the in the midst in the mix of all these rookies being drafted and then some veterans moving, Yeah, I think he could. And listen, the bloom is off some of these quarterbacks over the last couple of years. I'll throw Carson Wentz in there, even though I don't believe that you kind of quit on him at this point. And I you know, at some point he may need a reset, whatever that means,

new coaching staff or a new new location. UM. But you know, it's easy to sit there one two years ago and say, boy, there really aren't that many openings. Look at how many quarterbacks are in uh place that are playing well and and and Sam Donald was in there, Baker Mayfield although he's played better now of late um and guys that we thought, oh boy, they're gonna be

there for twenty years. You know, some guys get off the fast starts and then all of a sudden, whether it's more tape or what happens around them, uh, start to tell off a little bit. So yeah, I do think that there's an option out there at some point for Matthew Stafford. Now the other question is, and I know if inject him with some truth thereum, I think he will tell you that he feels like it might be time to move on. But but who's coming in

as GM and who's coming in as a coach? Because that could change a lot for you when all of a sudden you got a different feel about the organization because of who is actually the coach. So um, yeah, it's one that I'm kind of keeping tabs on. But to tell you right now if he's moving on, I got to see into the future to know what's gonna happen to really make a call on that one. You're staying a little like combo vaccine truth theorem. Just throw the truth serum, just mix it up into the vaccine,

so you just just one needle. Why. I know that family is very upset. You know they're gonna be first in line to get that vaccine. They want to get out there. And yeah, um, so the the COVID vaccine is going to need a booster. Would the truth serum also need a booster? I would just roll with the truth serum. You just put it right into the bloodstream and see what comes out of the mouth Stafford to just ruined all the good will he's built up and just be like, are you kidding me? I've been on

Alliance for a decade plus and I've stayed quiet. Get me out of here, um before a lot of folks would argue with him before we go, Mike, Yes, we're talking vaccines. This is um and it's taught us that you never know when you um gonna have enough opportunity to do something. So I wanted to ask you a question I've always wanted to ask you. So here we go, Mike, how much does it bother you that more people mistakenly refer to you as Mike Garofolo than Janine is identified

as Janine Garafolo. Be honest. To be honest, I feel like there's gonna be a tipping point right because which I don't I hate to I hate to speak negatively about the family. But what I mean, has she done a lot lately? Is she still out there? I mean I feel like I feel like I'm stacking wins here, right, I mean I'm stacking You're active, I'm mixing some losses

in there. We gotta take some els, as they like to tell you on Twitter, Um, but I feel like I'm I feel like I'm stacking enough that there should be a tipping point. Um. You know, hasn't it saying you're saying that more people are watching NFL network, um than reality bites on Netflix. I'm not sure if that's true right now. Even Well, we're gonna have to check with Netflix because I'm gonna need to see views or streams or whatever they call them, because I think I

might challenge you on that one. I might throw the red flag on that one. Wow, that's an optimistic. Look. I'm glad I got that question out, Mike. That was a trenching question by our international audience is like, who is Janine Garofolo the Larry Sanders Show on a huge overseas Yeah, that's true, Mike. You've you've come and you've said it all. We just got we got smarter and we needed that and that's what you do when you

come on the show. And again, check out Mike. He's on NFL Network all the time and also on Good Morning Football on the weekend with the Great Connie Fox. Uh. Thank you, Mr g thank you guys for having me, and uh, you know, leave all your bed. Carmen my plan. I wouldn't. I would normally say see you at the super Bowl, but happening, I haven't booked my ticket yet. Know what's happening to that? All Right? There he goes the Mike, the Great Mike Garifolo, checking in, what do

we learned there? You know, I wanted, Uh, I went down a different wormhole, but I wanted to ask him about Will Fuller, who. Of course, that news came out um on Monday that Fuller, the Texans wide receivers enjoyed a big breakout season and also cornerback Bradley Roby have been suspended six games for violating the NFL's policy on

performance and enhancing substances. That's unbelievable. I mean, this is what a bad year for the Texans all around, and terrible for for Fuller, who, you know, we always knew we had talent. We we talked about it on the show all the time. And the fact that he had realized that as a number one wide receiver this year year and now he gets suspended. I wonder what kind of market he has now. Um, we'll we'll find out,

of course, but that was just based on precedent. I just feel like NFL teams do not discount much for p E d s. They're just like, don't do it again. You know, if you're good, he really he has a free agent. If it's a player who never could stay healthy then finally stays healthy for three months and then gets revealed to be on p E d S, I wonder if that's something that is a huge red flag.

I would he's a guy I would absolutely take a chance on because I think he's really and we saw on Thanksgiving when he went off, Uh, he's he's a real player. But that was, um, you know, a tough situation. Deshaun Watson is such a great, great quarterback. But now you take DeAndre Hopkins out of the mix, Will Fuller, it makes you feel like it's in doubted. They just cut Kenny Stills, Randall Cobb is hurt for a while, and bat Bradley Roby, by the ways, their number one

corner by far. I would say that's two of their top six players that you know. It's kind of like, for instance, they're playing the Colts this week, like that looked like a dangerous game for the Colts. It's looking a little less. Yes, what more good news for the Miami Dolphins though, who have the first round pick of Houston Texans next spring. Alright, anything else we want to hit on today's show, A little bit of a quicker show we have just by way of schedule because everything's funky.

We'll have a mini pod tomorrow Wednesday recapping Steelers Ravens if it does indeed happen it happened, uh, And then on Friday, our Thursday regular Thursday preview show pushed to Friday, so we'll have that show out to you Friday, um afternoon here uh in California, So follow all that, Mark, what are you gonna do if indeed, here in California the game has played at twelve forty Uh? Steelers Ravens. What is it? Mark Sessler, Wednesday lunchtime football set up?

Look like I kind of love stuff like this, and I don't love why it's happening, But um, it is uh an impossibility to watch it in my house with the current vibe and activity. So I'll go into the garage. I got a television in there, sit in the easy chair and just you know, watch a little Steelers Ravens. I don't see what. It seems like a wonderful activity for the afternoon on a Wednesday. It's very unusual and uh kind of feels baseball like almost, So I'm ready

to experience it with a positive mindset for once. And because of that, we also are getting another Tuesday game the next week. Well, here's what I don't need. The like the triple header on Monday night where two games are happening at the same time. That's a bit rich. Well they're not doing it now, They're pushing I don't need Tuesday so that the Steelers and the Washington football team gets their own Tuesday. So, I mean, it's a wild world the forty Niners today, you know, godspeed to

the them. Hopefully they pack too well. They are embarking on a three work week minimum sojourn to Arizona, where they have decamped for December because they're gonna play in Glendale place, um with double the amount of coronavirus cases as Santa Clara. And and to be clear, I am not criticizing Santa Clara for actually I can. I'm not let the pro football teams play their games in the end. The season can be com down with the preciousness like this.

It's not so much precious but it's just like, this is what happens when entire country has absolutely no organization that the one place, one of the only places in the country that takes it seriously and does a good job and is trying to actually prevent you know, more people from dying. Um ends up just like yeah, setting this team to somewhere where it's actually like there's more cases.

I thought it was notable that coming out of the win over the Rams College Shanahan went on a series of wild rants about this scenario and you know, basically had to tell his players you will not be spending Christmas with your families this year. I mean, so you know, there's a life side to this, and we just look

at the teams. I'm kind of with Dan, like with the the NFL or the one group of people, even though they're being affected where they put a pretty good clamp on this to some degree, Like why are we shipping all of them to Arizona? I just let them play in California. But that's a that's not the people that you're out. These are people that that live and work in your region, and like you're saying, right, you're sending them to a place that's more dangerous too, I

guess take them. I think conversation it gets to a larger conversation that we don't need to have in this and it's basically just how much how much is like an organization like the NFL need to feel responsible for the community at large? Now, does you know when our politicians, you know, when the laws don't really care too much

about community spread? There's an argument like why should uh, why should like a corporation care But ultimately, like we're kind of making the trade off that we're trading a lot of people getting COVID by having you know, football games, especially fans in football games, you know, and like we're kind of accepting that, and one one county in the country is saying, now, we're not going to accept that.

So speaking of COVID nineteen and um, obviously a global pandemic is a pretty good excuse if you want to call that. Mark. But you know, you've moved into your new home. You have this fancy garage setup that you mentioned here and there not even a whiff of an invite since in the months since you've you've moved in, So I just I'll send you a photo of it. It's not. You have the fancy garage. I mean I have one seat in there for one person. So, um, I would be happy to have you and a private text.

Say Mark, if you wanna, like I put down carpet in my garage. If you want any help, I'd be happy to come over, you know, make a day of it. You know, maybe maybe it's time to open up Mark a little bit and get out of this. You know what. I think that like like some other people that I um, I've become a little too comfortable with seeing nobody and the idea of inviting people over and doing things I

just assumed not on the table. Um. But we had a wonderful time socially distanced, you and I and handsome Hank covering Seahawks Cardinals, and I should take a cube from that that I think we can. I don't want to pressure you. You know. I also had a Corona scare, if you recall it, took a test there at one point, so I you know, I didn't want to That would have not have been a high time to invite the gang over. Hey, I might have Corona come on over.

Let's have cupcakes and Corona cupcakes. Yeah, you see what happens to everyone roll the dice um. All right, well, let me know. Maybe it's when we get the two shots. Maybe that's when it happens. But we're we're all waiting, Erica. You would like to see Mark's new house, right, yeah, we're all waiting, Like you said, extreme enthusiasm. I would see the vand cave. You have a new garage. You have your new little shed out back that we all want to see. I don't have there's no there's no

backdoor shed this time. No, you've inspired me. I will think of I will think of a way to get this stune in the near future. All right, but safety first always, you know we care about that. It's like, oh, way to press your mark. We're during the pandemic. Then shut up, shut up not doing that. We're being safe. You don't see us missing shows because we have the coronavirus, because we're doing a good job. No, we're doing the right things. We're making the right decisions, right Greig, we are,

I mean we're no, we're no dead ver Broncos you know. Sorry, they were the first one that came up. I mean, getting coronavirus is kind of a stamp of that you've been through this NFL season unfortunately incredible actually playing incredible mask mask discipline as they call it in the meeting rooms. All right here they on the end of our podcast, we'll be back like we said, mini mini pod personnel

to be decided tomorrow Raven Steelers, uh, Corona willing. And then we'll be back again on Friday with a full preview of week thirteen. We get into the teens. How about that? Mark, I can't wait? All right, this is thank you to Mike care. Follow this Dan handsOn signing off for FIDE Storm the old boss Ricky Hollywood. It's behind the birketal glass until what say se